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Speaker 2High here, Adam, this is so classic.
Brett has been out for five weeks because he had another kid, and he's he's got to keep looking at his notes to figure out what the.
Speaker 1Hell is what?
Speaker 4Yeah?
Speaker 2Yeah, oh, this is hysterois to have that.
Speaker 3All handswer great.
Speaker 4Many how many kids we up too?
Speaker 2Too?
Speaker 4Congratulation boy girl, what have we got there?
Speaker 2Two girls?
Speaker 4Yep?
Speaker 3Another girl one and the other one weeks right, Adam, Always appreciate the time and look over the weekend.
With the Chargers loss, that seals the Broncos for winning the AFC West, the first time a non Chiefs team has done that since twenty fifteen.
The question now becomes, when the Broncos played the Chargers this weekend, do the Chargers have the incentive to go all out or is there a chance you think they rest up justin Herbert and just get ready for the postseason.
Speaker 4Look, Jim Harball is always quirky with these things, and I would think that he's going to be thoughtful.
But I don't know what incentive they have to play certain guys here.
So to me, it's not gonna be surprised if Herbert doesn't play.
But I don't you know that yet.
We haven't heard from him just yet.
Speaker 1Yeah, the only incentive is incentive is if he's trying to play a particular opponent in the first round of the playoffs.
I mean that that would be it.
I mean, and how much does he value also keeping a healthy upright quarterback.
Maybe he thinks his hand injuries not that big a deal.
What do you think he thinks?
Speaker 4No, I, well, again, Jim thinks differently than most people.
Okay, we'll start there.
But I just think the most important thing justin Herbert's gutting tumult, and so to me, it's most important to get him some rest right now to me, But it's not my team.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, I guess, Adam, when you look at it though, with every team having a flaw.
I mean, do you think that coaches genuinely want to try and pick their opponent in the postseason?
Speaker 4Yeah, I don't believe.
It's no, Like, what are we talking about?
Also, it's not like, no, I don't believe they really care about that, you know, buy and large now in the NFC, if he gets to play one of the NFC South teams, I mean, I could see some thought to that potentially, but I think coaches are more interested in doing what's best for their team, and to me, what's best for their team right now, it's the rest justin Herbert, that's me, not my decision.
Like, why is heeded to be out there for seating they're in, they're in.
I don't know the scenarios of who they would or wouldn't play.
I don't know if they could improve their seating or not.
But to me, I don't see a lot there to gain.
Speaker 3If you had to handicap it, if I gave you Broncos, Patriots, Jags to represent the AFC or the field, who would you take.
Speaker 4I probably would take the field because I just Josh Allen looms dangerous in the postseason.
To me, he just Looms dangerous and Houston.
You didn't mention them.
They have the best defense.
Houston is the best defense.
Buffalo is the best quarterback.
So if you're giving me those options, I'll take the field because I get the best of bulge worlds.
Speaker 1You know what I wouldn't want to do this year, By the way, who votes on all of these awards, like Coach of the Year and MVP.
Who handles that is that media?
Speaker 4Yes?
Media?
Speaker 1Okay, So if you're voting for Coach of the Year and you got a week to play, I'm looking at all the contestants here.
I mean, I have no idea what Kyle Shanahan has done to a banged up San Francisco squad.
Liam Cohen and Jacksonville Hell, Sean Payton here in Denver, Mike Rabel in New England, Mike McDonald and Seattle.
You I've never seen a lots, I mean so many can I mean, good luck voting on that one.
Speaker 4I mean to me, honestly, the case for Vrabel, Liam Cohne, Ben Johnson, and Kyle Shanney like those four guys, Like there are other guys.
Sean Payne's been great, but there are four guys in my mind, that stand and that above the others.
The Bears lost last night, so although what they've done is still incredible, Like those are the real turnaround stories in the NFL this year, New England, Chicago, Jacksonville, and San Francisco is not a turnaround.
But I don't think anybody could survive what the Niners have been through and be in a position going into Week eighteen to play for the number one seed.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's absolutely it's remarkable.
I want to ask you this though, because I guess I could do my research, but I think you're smarter than me.
I look at that you talk about the turnarounds, like the Patriots turn around, the Jaguars turnaround.
Houston's playing good football, you know.
A couple of years ago, Straud was the talk of the town.
But a tough one last year.
But Seattle's turnaround.
You know, even Carolinas, you know, can win the division and all they have to do is knock off the dog butt Buccaneers.
Right now, when you're talking about these turnarounds, is this a year where you've seen more?
The Bears is obviously a huge one.
More turnaround for teams that have gone from to pretty dang good than we've seen in a long time.
I'm trying to remember when we had, you know this many teams, six teams or more than actually flipped the script and or playing great ball.
Speaker 4Well, what I would say to that would be that stat hold on, let me see I have it or did I race it?
I think it's here.
It is thirty six straight years.
Thirty six straight years.
Okay, at least four new teams have made the NFL playoffs this year.
The Patriots, Jaguar, Seahawks, Bears forty nine ers were all in.
None of it made it last year, Panthers will making six.
So you say, you've never seen a year like this, And I would say to you, it's happened every year for thirty six years.
Maybe eight, maybe not to this extreme, Yeah, maybe not to this.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Like Bears eleven and five, Seattle you know, thirteen and three, and the Patriots thirteen and three and the Jags twelve and four.
Is that they've gone from you know, not they're not you know, ten and seven getting in, but you know, twelve thirteen wins that kind of thing.
Speaker 4Thirty six straight years, at least four new teams have made the NFL playffs every year for thirty six straight years.
Okay, so what that tells you is that this league is hard to win in regularly.
Injuries are always a factor.
The difference between one team and another is not that great, just not that great.
It's still a quarterback coaches league.
And when you look at those teams, it turned it around.
What are they have in common?
New England as Mike Rabel newly hired and Drake May second year, Carol Jacksonville's got Trevor Larn's former number one over a pick with a new coach turned him around.
Chicago's got a former number and overall pick and Ben Johnson turned him around.
Kyle Shans Kyle Shann and he's the man like coaches and quarterbacks and teams fire coaches on a regular basis.
Unless they have a great quarterback, they're making changes.
And that's why you get thirty six straight years of at least four new playoff teams every year.
Speaker 3Well, you brought up the Panthers.
I am very curious to see how that came against the Bucks is going to go and what it means for Todd Bowles.
Todd Bowles did that risky thing.
He went to the well of kind of calling out his team.
He had that moment at the presser.
He's thrown out some f bombs and they responded by losing again.
What do you think happens if Tampa Bay does not make the postseason or even if they do, is Todd Bowles's job up for discussion?
Speaker 4You think?
I think, Look, you know, you make the postseason, you can win in the postseason, go on a run after that changes the narrative and the feeling about how you finish.
But if Tampa loses at home on Sunday to Carol or Saturday, excuse me, Saturday to Carolina, Tampa Bay loses his home and then loses what is it, seven of eight games down the stretch.
I mean, I think all things are on the table, all options are on the table at that point in time, But that that team's falling apart down the stretch this year really surprising, disappointing for them.
Speaker 1Could there be a surprise coaching change out there that we're not aware of?
Speaker 4Just like there are thirty six years of four new Yeah, it's probably thirty six straight years of at least one surprise, say coaching change every year.
Yeah, yeah, stuff that every year.
It happens.
Now, Like you know, we know the regular places that are being discussed.
We already have Tennessee and the Giants.
I think people are waiting on Cleveland atlant Raiders, like nobody's gonna be surprised there anything happens.
And then you know, you got some interesting places like I think the loser a Sunday Nights game between Baltimore and pitt They're gonna be questions asked there.
Speaker 1Yeah, I thought about that, and those are two long time coaches too, that that'd be a tough one either way.
Speaker 4Or somebody is gonna some franchise is gonna be disappointed, some fan base is gonna be alienated.
Some people are gonna have said do I think any of them getting fired?
Speaker 2No?
Speaker 4I don't.
But do I think they'll be discussions with the team that loses on Sunday Night?
Yeah?
Yeah, I think they'll be discussions.
I don't know what comes out of that, but yeah, that we didn't make the playoffs.
What went wrong?
What's up?
What?
Speaker 3I don't know if you have any inside dope on this, but what's going on between Max Crosby and the Raiders right now.
Speaker 2You know, I.
Speaker 4Don't know why people are like all worked up about it.
Speaker 1Here because because he was worked up because he went public.
Speaker 4That's why.
Okay, what I would say to that is this, if the Raiders are playing for something, he'd be out there, but they're not.
And he needs surgery.
And they had scans last Tuesday that said his knee had gotten worse and that he was a threat to make it bad if he if he didn't have it operated on.
So why I know he wants to play, That's why he's Max Crosby like he's he's a warrior.
Highest respect for that guy and the way he plays.
Why would you put him out there?
So both things can be right?
Yes, you can be doing what you can to lock in the number one overall pick, and you can be doing smart and proven thing and resting your guy, right, I mean, why can't they both be troue is there?
Speaker 3I'm just throwing this out there.
Is there like an incentive thing that he could hit that maybe he can't now if they're shutting him down that he's upset about.
Speaker 4No, I don't believe that's scary.
He got he has so much guarantee money.
You know, you're not talking about anything incentives they're going to sway things here.
Speaker 1Yeah, why is it so hard to tank in the National Football League?
Like watching the Raiders and Giants yesterday, I'm sure there's a sluid Giants fans going.
Speaker 2What are you doing?
Speaker 4Why would you.
Speaker 2Play that hard?
Speaker 4It's very simple.
Yeah, it's very simple because while your front office or ownership may privately want you to lose players, contracts in large part are not guaranteed.
Players' contracts expire, and the moment you put lazy, unmotivated play on tape, you hurt your own value.
You've got coaches in both places coaching to keep their jobs.
They don't you know, they don't care whether they're their franchises in number one.
Pick the coaches in Vegas maybe five coaches and the Giants staff already some have been fired and some are trying to distinguish themselves.
They want to win, so that, you know, it's really conflicting motivations, you know, and ownership.
With ownership or front officers would never ever admit, oh yeah, we want to lose this game.
But trust me, through the years, I've spoken to enough teams like it's in ournate like I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna watch my team.
I'm gonna be rooting for them to win.
I'd like to see him win, but if they don't win, I'm gonna be good with it.
Yeah, I've heard that said to me.
But the players, players are always trying to win, always one hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 1I get it.
But you know, the three of us put lazy, unmotivated play on tape every morning and it hasn't effect us one bit.
Speaker 4That's you know, that's that's why you get cut tomorrow.
Speaker 3Adam Schefter he joined us every single week and I'm always appreciate the time.
Speaker 4Thank you, buddy, guys, Happy New Year, take care of you.
Speaker 2Here to you too.
Speaker 3Adam Schefter joins us every single Monday at nine o'clock.
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