Wow, so I just finished up an episode with a Makia Freeman and we just covered a number of different topics that I think are going to fascinate a number of you.

We dive into the cabal and the the the nature of it.

We dive into we touch on geopolitics and some of the events going on.

And towards the end, we talk about kind of more, you know, esoteric, spiritual kind of stuff.

And, and Makia provides his rendering as relates to the, the why the world is in the current state of affairs that it's in.

And so I encourage those of you who are perhaps a little more straight laced on things to have more of an open mind for this episode.

And I, I, I found it fascinating and I suspect a lot of you will as well.

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That said, we'll, we'll get started with the show.

Welcome back to the show and joining us today is Makia Freeman.

Makia has been researching the worldwide conspiracy full time since 2007.

He's the editor of alternative media slash independent news site The Freedom Articles, author of five books including The Cult of the Chosen Ones, Break Your Chains and the International Satanic Network, expose, a lead researcher at toolsforfreedom.com.

His articles and videos have regularly appeared on websites such as davidicke.com, activistpost.com, Globalist Research, which.ca, and many more.

His work delves into numerous fields as he ties together the seemingly disparate strands of the overarching agenda to enslave humanity, exposing it so that we can fully face it and rise above it.

Makia, I admire the work that you do.

Thanks for coming on the show today.

How are you?

Well, thanks Christian.

Thanks for having me on.

OK, so I'll, I'll, I'll preface to the audience.

This has been a topic that is absolutely fascinating to me.

And once you, once you become awakened or aware of it, you just can't, you just can't ever look at things the same way, especially geopolitics, which is a topic I think is fascinating and it explains about our current, the state of our society and such.

And so I guess if you, if you want to start off providing your, your, your, your current rendering of kind of like just kind of broad overview, where are you things where you see things at currently in the world and, and what what is going on that kind of ties in with your work, what you feel relates to the audience.

And then at some point, of course, we'll, we'll talk about your books and and other research.

OK, Well, to give you a broad, you know, a broad overview of what's happening, I think that we're in a kind of World War three and it's not the same as the World wars in one and two, which were more delineated.

They had like a starting and ending date.

And and obviously they were more fought in the kinetic realm.

Like there was, there were missiles, there were airplanes, there were bullets, there were submarines, whatever.

These days, you know, there's, there's the terms 4th generation warfare and 5th generation warfare, which referred to the kind of warfare where it's, it's in all these other realms, especially the cyber realm, which didn't really exist back in World War One and World War 2.

Then you've just got the information and perception realm that all, all the realms of the psychological operations.

And so all of that's going on economic war.

You know, the, the US has the world superpower for so long has has waged economic war against all these different countries without needing to invade them.

And, and this has been going on with the US against Russia with all the sanctions that have been happening even before the Ukraine war.

So there's, there's all of this stuff going on.

Israel, there's also a, a key player in this, a very aggressive state that uses all sorts of espionage and cyber warfare against its, its enemies.

And so, you know, we had Benjamin Netanyahu talking at a cyber conference in the last five years or so.

And he's saying that, you know, if you, if you set things up properly, you can bring a nation to its knees with the push of a button.

And he's talking about the control of the cyber domain.

And if you control the software of, of, of, you know, the computers of an enemy's country that controls everything, that controls all their government operations, their nuclear plant operations, their military operations.

So warfare is, has really changed.

And I see a lot of warfare going on using all these methods.

And so even though there is still a lot of regional skirmishes right now, we've got the Ukraine, Russia, Russell, Ukraine war, we've got a lot of trouble in the Middle East with with Israel striking Lebanon, Gaza, of course, Syria, the 12 day war with Iran last year, Yemen, the US just kidnapping Maduro.

So there's still a lot of actual military operations, but I think, I think we're in this era where there there is this war going on.

And not everyone recognizes that we're in a war, but in in this kind of domain or field of warfare.

The the actual kinetic military stuff with soldiers and things can actually be one of the last phases of it.

Because all this, all this other intrigue and economic and cyber warfare is continually going on.

And so it's, it's for those who think, oh, you know, we're in an era of peace and humanity has risen above war and we'll put this behind them.

Unfortunately, that is not the case at all.

We're very much still in a, in a period where there's war, there's fighting The so, so many of the world's leaders do not want peace, do not understand peace.

And it's still a very dangerous time for the world where, you know, big conflicts could break out and it could turn into some kind of thing where we do have like a, a more traditional World War three, where we have Iran, Russia and China on one side and the US, Europe, Israel and other people on the other side.

That's still that's still a definite possibility.

And you know, the people that that really run the world, this, this cult, which is the satanic cult behind all of this, they are deliberately engineering enemies and creating friction and tension so as to get countries on opposite sides so as to produce this kind of war, because it's going to lead to the ultimate outcome that they want, which is a new world order or one world government.

And so just to confirm as it relates to the, the, the Satanic cult that is obviously trying to effectuate its agenda, OK, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to, would you say that these, the, the, the, these heads of state, Putin, Ji, Kumani, Netanyahu, you know, fill in the blank.

Would you say that they are all in cahoots and, and that they are putting on theater?

Or would you say that, that, that, that they are, they, they believe that they are pursuing their agendas, but they, and, and they, they suspect maybe there's some, something influencing them, but they're not fully aware that they're being manipulated.

I'm just trying to, if you can kind of situate us on that matter.

Yeah, I, I think there is a very large degree of what happens on the world stage, which is theater, which is scripted, which is done deliberately to either distract people or to create tension and conflict, which isn't ultimately that real.

A lot of this is done because these world leaders are answering to the same force.

You know, let's let's take a look at, say, Trump, Putin and Netanyahu and Zelensky.

So these are the leaders of four different countries right now, but they all have one thing in common and that is there is there is a Jewish influence and in particular a Habad Lubovich influence on all of them.

Habad Lubovich is a very powerful Jewish sect.

They control most of Judaism within Russia, maybe like 90 to 99%.

It's it's some Jewish rabbis have said.

And they're also a very strong influence in the US.

They have a headquarters in Brooklyn.

They were actually the ones you might remember Christian a year or two ago where there was a scandal where police went into the headquarters in Brooklyn and they found there were these underground tunnels.

And so they were arresting all these rabbis and the rabbis were trying to like blow up and cover the tunnels and like hide it all.

And, and so there was there was suggestions of like, OK, what's what, what is the deal with these underground tunnels?

Is this child trafficking, trafficking?

Like what is going on here?

So how about Lubavitch has a very, a very strong grip on, on politics.

Trump.

Trump is definitely a, how about Lubavitch devotee.

I mean, he, he's visited the grave of their former leader, which who was called Rabbi Schneerson.

Rabbi Schneerson was one of these Jewish supremacist guys who who said things that, you know, to the tune of that a Jewish soul is completely different to a gentile soul.

And gentiles are basically basically worthless and they only exist to serve the Jews.

And the comments like this, like completely and utterly supremacist comments.

And so he he died a while ago, but he's still kind of revered as almost like a Messiah by some people.

And some people think he was this Messiah.

So Trump was visiting his grave and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, is also part of it.

So, you know, he kind of married into the Trump family.

Trump's father was very, very close with all these rich, rich Jews in New York and doing all these real estate deals.

So Trump was bought into this whole thing.

On the other side, Putin was brought up by a Jewish family because his parents were often out working when he got home from school.

He's talked about his upbringing.

And so he became kind of, he kind of had a close relationship with Jews right from the start as a child.

And they still exert a very strong influence over him.

There's, there's a couple of chief rabbis in Russia and one of them is called Beryl Lazar.

And I'm sorry, Lazar, Beryl.

And he, he is basically got Putin's ear.

He is, he is so close to Putin.

He's called Putin's rabbi and he, when he, he actually speaks very good English, even though he lives in Russia.

And so he's been interviewed and he's talked about how basically nothing happens in the Middle East without Israel and Russia kind of conferring and collaborating.

And that that basically there's a hotline, like there's a phone between Tel Aviv and Moscow.

And, you know, Russia isn't going to do something and take some action in the Middle East without totally making sure Israel is aware of it and probably on board with it.

So there's very close coordination, you know, between Israel and Russia, even though Israel has such control over the US that it dominates US politics and, and, and directs the US military, directs US foreign policy.

And, and the US and Russia are kind of like frenemies.

They're like enemies on the world stage.

But behind them all, we have this, we have this sect of this cult that's controlling both sides.

And there's absolutely a very strong connection with Ukraine where Zelensky is the current leader.

Zelensky is Jewish.

There's a lot of rich Jews that put him into power like Igor Kolomoisky in the 1st place.

Because if you look at Zelensky's background, he was just an actor, a cocaine snorting actor comedian who actually played the piano with his penis in, in one-on-one famous clip.

Like this is the kind of guy he was.

He somehow got pushed into power.

He did this kind of almost like a reality TV show in Ukraine that was super popular where he played the president.

He he became the president in that show.

And then it happened in real life, which is not a coincidence.

So he was funded into power and he is beholden to these very rich Jews that that also connected to this cult.

And, you know, I want to make a point of clarification here that we are not at all talking about all Jews in the world.

There are many good Jews who have no idea about all this and not even interested in politics or controlling countries or whatever.

This is really just a small sect or cult with within Judaism.

And how about Lubavitch is one of one of the kind of avenues for it.

But it's really, it's really just these people that are at the core of Zionism.

They're the ones that that push for Israel to even be created in the 1st place as a modern day state in 1948.

And and they use ordinary Jews, whether in Israel or out of Israel as a shield to cover for their activities.

And it's been a very effective ploy for them.

But it's becoming unrivaled now because a lot of people are starting to see through it, especially in the last few years with the Gaza genocide.

But basically for a long time they had this trick where they would just try anti-Semitism anytime people would investigate them or ask questions or criticize them.

And that no longer works.

It's just become this meaningless term because it's just been used for anything, even when someone absolutely has no prejudice or anti-Semitism at all.

They're just simply asking questions, investigating, wanted to know the truth.

They get labeled with this.

So the good news is that that trick is no longer working.

But but basically you have you have this very small sect and and you know, this sect isn't even particularly religious.

That's the thing.

They pretend that they're religious.

They pretend that they're representing jury, but actually if they have any religion at all, it's Satanic.

They are literally Satanists.

And I'm not just using that as like a hyperbolic term.

I've actually investigated and written books on this topic.

There is an international satanic network that practices satanic ritual and does things like gets together, drinks blood, cannibalism, rape hunts, humans, human sacrifice.

All of this stuff actually goes on and it's not just some fringe weird cult.

There are the most powerful people in the world, CE OS of businesses, bankers, celebrities, politicians that are attending these rituals, participating in them.

And a lot of the leaders of of this satanic cult are in very high positions of power or they are controlling the people in high positions of power.

How far does this go back in in in in time, so to speak?

What?

What is kind of the genesis of this?

Well, that's a good question.

In my most recent book, I I trace it back to the Middle East and how it arose there and it infiltrated Judaism and it started spreading out even to other religions too.

But particularly it seems like it used Judaism as a vehicle.

There are other people that have traced it back further, maybe even some people suggesting around 4000 BC Babylon comes up a lot.

Some people say that something happened around that time.

There was, there was some change in humanity.

This is also when we, we had the introduction of alphabet and large state scale agriculture.

And so something changed in the human race then when we went from being hunter gatherer to more like farmers and, and settling in certain areas.

I, I can't say I know for sure exactly when it arose.

I, I think it's probably been going on even before that.

Some people say, you know, there were a series of catastrophes that happened around 10,000 BC floods.

And maybe it is also related to that, that there was a much higher general level of consciousness that was happening then.

And that's reflected in the buildings that still exist today that there were perhaps built.

Then something happened.

There was a fall of man, so to speak.

We lost, we lost a lot of the knowledge and consciousness that we had from that period.

We, we sunk down.

We forgot a lot of who we, who we were.

And this is when this the Satanic, the Satanism arose.

It's very, very low level vibration of it's kind of like a parasitic host, parasitic virus feeding off its host.

Or it's, it's like a kind of a psychopathy that there's like a psychopathy to it of like wanting to kill and, and take pleasure in, in the pain of others.

You know, I, I, I, I don't have all the answers on that.

It's quite possible that this, this has been going on an extremely long time, you know, even even before 10,000 BC.

But there's some of the clues that we have right now as as to what, where, where it originally came from.

But I can say for sure that that it definitely proliferated in the Middle East a couple of 1000 years ago and it wound its way up through these secret societies and, and through Judaism.

And what, what was what's especially interesting for me is how it, how it manifested itself in two fake Jewish messiahs.

And the second one of those made his way to Europe and linked up with the Rothschild family, who became the key family running all this and the key family putting out central banks around the world.

With respect to kind of the, the, the genesis and, and so on and so forth, I, as mentioned offline, I, I had a gentleman by the name of Johnny Serucci, who, who has written, written about kind of the Satanic element.

And again, you know, just even saying it, you know, in, in such a public capacity, it sounds quacky, like hyperbole.

As you said, it just sounds like something kind of out there.

But you know, I mentioned, I've mentioned on other episodes how for me, I was like, why am I hearing this?

Like this just sounds kind of cuckoo.

And then I started to go down the rabbit hole more.

I'm like, OK, wait a minute here, wait a minute, something's up.

This is not this is not some quackery like religious zealot kind of stuff people were talking about.

This is real.

This is actually going on.

And there's literature, of course, going to your point, you know, literature on it going back hundreds and hundreds of years and references and images, eyewitness testimony and, and, and just a myriad of sources.

And they, the vast majority of the public is bereft completely of this going on.

OK, Now the reason why I brought circling back, the reason why I brought up Johnny is because he has mentioned, I just love to hear your, your, your, your, your perspective.

He has mentioned that the Vatican as, as being an extension of this or even being control of Habad.

Could you situate us and and provide your your your your thoughts?

Sure.

So let me let me to answer that, let me start with these two fake Jewish messiahs.

So we had the rise of the first one who was called Sabotage Devi in the Ottoman Empire, which is current Turkey.

So he he grew up there and you know, it's it's hard to get exact kind of information on this guy because we are going hundreds of years ago.

But from what, from what I've researched and from what people have written about him, he was probably manic depressive.

He may have even been psychotic.

He was, he was characterized as a Mystic.

He had, he had all these like visions and dreams, but there was a definite satanic element to him.

And basically he decided that he was a Jewish Messiah.

And so he went around proclaiming that he decided he would proclaim it in the year 1666 of all years.

And his philosophy was that everything should be inverted.

So normal moral rules should be completely 180° inverted because that was what happened during the time of the Messiah.

So it was basically kind of like an excuse to do whatever he wanted to bring in Satanism.

So on days where judo, you know, Jews that were following this would normally fast, he would feast, he would promote orgies, he would promote all sorts of all sorts of stuff that that went against the social order.

And basically it got things got to the point where he, he had a lot of followers.

Allegedly he had about half the world's Jews following him, about a million people at that time.

And eventually the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire said to him, OK, like enough, either you convert to Islam or you die.

And so he converted to Islam.

He took the turban on and this disillusioned a lot of his followers who who left him, but a lot of them stayed on.

Now Sabatizevi had a like a wingman APR man called Nathan of Gaza, who was who was very good at explaining his actions and, and, and trying to basically doing public relations for him.

And so Nathan of Gaza managed to convince a lot of his followers that this this was all in line with prophecy, that it was prophesized that the Messiah would come and he would take on the guise of another religion.

And this was all part of it.

And so this is where we get the rise of the term crypto.

Crypto meaning hidden or secret.

So sabotage Evie on the outside took on Islam and wore Islamic clothes and, you know, pretended to be a Muslim, but on the inside continued his same kind of practices, which were, you know, kind of satanic.

And they weren't even like part of mainstream Judaism anyway.

He he had totally changed it.

And so his followers still did this all in secret.

And so this this is where the the, the crypto juice came from.

Now, eventually Sabatizevi died, but there was a guy that came after him called Jacob Frank, who was originally born in Poland, but he traveled down to the Ottoman Empire, the Turkish area.

He met a lot of Sabati Zevi's followers, and he claimed he was also the Messiah and that he was the reincarnation of Zabati Zevi.

So he kind of picked up where Zevi left off.

And so this whole movement sprung, which took the name of both of these guys.

So it became Sabati and Frankism.

Now Frank we have a little bit more information on because he's a little bit more recent in history.

He was a psychopath.

I mean, he, he was absolutely evil and he believed in the in the whole idea of salvation through sin.

He was like, the only way that we're going to enter the true messianic era is if we do everything completely evil.

We like commit every single transgression we can under the sun and that will somehow bring in the Messiah again.

This is this is kind of crazy is absolutely you like bonkers, but this is the things they believed.

And and so they, they, they would take certain phrases from the Talmud or or the Torah or whatever and they would twist them and suit them, you know, make them suit their own desires, which was basically to do to do whatever they wanted, regardless of any kind of morality.

It was, it was pure Satanism.

And they also followed like Frank.

Frank especially brought in the Kabbalah, which is the third Jewish text.

A lot of people know about the Torah and the Talmud.

The Kabala is, is often full of like numbers and numerology and hidden, hidden codes.

There's a word called gematria which describes all the hidden codes that numbers and words can do.

So he was he was following all that, that stuff as well as the Satanism.

I mean, Frank, Frank had a daughter that he raped.

He used his daughter to to pimp out to get other people to follow to join his cult.

And they were doing things like blood drinking and satanic ritual.

So he took it even a step further than sabotage heavy.

So all of this was kind of horrendous and Frank was kicked out, as you can imagine, out of a lot of countries and areas where he was.

He ended up being imprisoned, he got out of prison.

But towards the end of his life, he made his way back to Europe, through Poland, into Germany, and he ended up in Frankfurt.

And his fate would have it.

Frankfurt was the hometown of the Rothschild family.

Now, they were originally called Bauer.

They were a German family.

The head of that family that went on to become a whole dynasty was called Maya Amshaw Rothschild.

He had a sign above his house, which was the the Jewish, the Star of David, which Judaism has taken.

I mean, it's actually a very old symbol, two triangles into locking, one pointing up, 1 pointing down.

But he had a hit a red version of that.

So it was a red sign.

And Rothschild comes from the German word rot S shield, meaning red shield or red sign.

So that's where he took his name from.

Now he had, he had picked up the trick that was practiced by other secret societies, the Templars, especially in the Middle Ages of creating money out of nothing, of basically taking people's real money, gold and silver and other things like that.

And then issuing paper certificates for it and, and keeping it, you know, keeping it safe like a kind of like a Goldsmith might do.

And then realizing, well, hang on, like people aren't actually exchanging the paper certificate for the actual gold very much because it's inconvenient.

They're just trading the paper certificates with each other.

And the certificate gives the the holder of it the right to go back and claim the gold at any point.

But he realized he could issue more paper certificates than there was actually gold.

And as long as no one, as long as not everyone came at the same time to redeem all the gold, he could get away with it because, you know, he could just pretend that he had the amount of gold to to match that certificate when he didn't.

And so in this way, central banking was born.

And so he taught this trick to his five sons, and then he sent them out to other European capitals to start banks to do the same thing.

And before long, he had become incredibly powerful.

The Rothschilds rose to great wealth and and so even though, you know, he was starting this and maybe the 1747 and 50s, by the seven, eight, 80s or 90s he had, he had massive wealth and massive control over Europe.

And so Jacob Frank crossed paths with Rothschild and then they formed some kind of unholy alliance where Frank was providing the Satanic influence in the Satanism, Rothschild was providing money and hit, you know that the results have been atrocious, deplorable for humanity ever since that alliance.

There was also a third man involved who was called Adam Weishaupt.

He was a German, he was Jesuit trained.

And so this is how we link into the Jesuits and the Vatican.

But Weishaupt was the guy that created the original Illuminati, the Order of the Illuminati in Bavaria, which is a southern part of Germany in 1776, May 1st, the same year that the US USA was founded.

And May 1st is a very significant date for the occultists that, that, that are in the Satanic cult.

It's also a Beltane.

So this is this is where we kind of get that the rise of the, the Illuminati.

You know, for a while, a lot of people that were researching the worldwide conspiracy were calling the people at the top the Illuminati.

And you know, it's, it's, it's a good a word as any.

It's hard to know what to call these people.

But there was an original Illuminati that was founded and this Illuminati was designed deliberately to basically take over the world.

And so one of one of its first aims was to conquer religion and governments and abolish monarchies.

Because right back if you go back into Europe at that time, the, the center of power in society was religion, especially the Catholic Church, as well as all the monarchies.

And so Rothschild and and Jacob Frank and Weissouth and all the other people that joined were, were, you know, they set out a plan for world domination.

And so they're they are one of their chief ways of doing it was to overthrow established power centers.

And so naturally that's how they started attacking religion and monarchy.

But the other way to do it, and this is really a key point, is via infiltration.

They said, OK, wait, what we're going to do is we're going to train our agents and we're going to send them out to all these different organizations and societies, and we're going to infiltrate and we're going to get to the top.

And then we will control that society and we'll basically use it for our own ends.

And so that's what happened with the Freemasons.

The Freemasons were already a hugely established, you could call them a secret society.

You could call them a brotherhood.

So Wysoft wrote in his Diaries, Freemasonry would be the ideal thing to infiltrate for the Illuminati because they're already so well established, they actually have a reasonably good reputation.

We could join the lower ranks, rise up through through the ranks, and then once we capture the leadership positions, then we can use it for our end.

That's exactly what they did.

And my research shows that maybe after around 10 years or so of, of the Illuminati, after they've been founded, they had, they had risen to the top of Freemasonry and captured it and started using it for their own goals.

They also did the same thing with the Jesuits.

They started using the Jesuits for their own purposes.

The Jesuits were already kind of that way inclined because they had been founded by a guy called Ignatius of Loyola, who was a Crypto Jew himself.

So this ties back with the Crypto Jew theme of sabotage, Evy being one thing on the outside, another thing on the inside.

So they had all these agents that pretended to be established like upstanding members of society, but they were, they were secretly part of the Illuminati or a satanic cult.

And they were infiltrating the Jesuits, the Vatican, Freemasonry, and then all the world's governments.

And they were rising up to positions of being in the cabinet and being in the leaders of all these world governments.

And so then they started undermining religion, understanding, undermining monarchy, centralizing power in the banks and businesses that they owned.

And so they were setting their sights on world domination even by around 181810, say around that time when Napoleon was, you know, marching through Europe.

And one of the first documented attempts by the Rothschilds to actually create a world government was around that time, 18101815, where he said, look, there's so much fighting in Europe.

There's all these nations at war with each other.

Let's have peace.

The way that we can have peace is let's have like a centralized body of nations in Europe.

So he was trying to create like a world government even then.

And he wondered, he was calling it the concert of nations.

However, there was a number of people that saw through it and the most vocal of them was the SAR of Russia at that time, Nicholas, and he spoke out against it.

He could see the Rothschilds were behind this ploy.

And it was just basically a ploy to remove sovereignty from all the nations and established like a world government.

I mean, maybe it might have been a European, pan European government at that time, but it was ultimately the plan to be bigger than that.

And so he shot, shut it down.

He warned everyone, said the Rothschilds behind this.

No way.

We're not going to give up our sovereignty as nations.

And so the concept of nations never worked.

But the Rothschilds remembered that, and they got their revenge on Russia about 100 years later with the whole Russian Revolution, which they had totally, you know, brought into existence.

They were completely behind that.

And that brought Russia to its knees and totally brought Russia down with the Bolsheviks and communism.

Oh my gosh.

Wow.

OK, there's so much to to digest here.

And I love the way in which you, you, you, you unpack this.

OK, so, wow, OK, so that this is obviously going on today.

We're we're still having to I don't want to say we're still having to because I don't know what, what what people are doing other than such as yourself to just kind of, you know, share what share what's going on and and share the history of it.

OK, so you, you situated kind of the Jesuit element in there.

You said you situated the the Masonic element in there.

I wanted to comment it is this to me is just further corroboration when you have George Washington make a reference to the Illuminati in in in a letter.

He did, I think in 1798.

So it's like just there's just a myriad of sources out there, which is just really striking.

OK, So wow, OK, I'm, I'm literally collecting my thoughts right now because you just dispensed so much.

That was a lot.

That was a lot.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm just kind of taking it in.

OK, so wow, OK, so.

I can talk a little bit about what happened in America because that's also interesting because while all this was going on in Europe, like we had the whole American Revolution, right?

And so there's different ways to view this.

You know, some people say, well, this was a triumph of humanity.

It was a triumph of freedom, individual rights.

And, you know, for the first time, a country was created based on these individual, unalienable human rights.

And it's like, yeah, I I see that.

And I I think that's wonderful.

That's great.

Unfortunately, the US today is nothing like what it was then.

And it is the US government has become an imperial monster and it is totally drifted away from its roots.

But, you know, yeah, I mean, those, those roots are great.

But then there's also the other side that say, well, you know, look at all the Founding fathers.

They were almost all Freemasons, some of them very high Freemasons like George Washington, Benjamin Franklin.

Benjamin Franklin, in fact, was involved with these satanic cults because he was part of the Hellfire Club in London.

And when they eventually found Franklin's, when he died, there were skeletons that were found under his house.

So were they part of some weird kind of satanic ritual and human sacrifice that Frank was involved in?

I don't know.

But it's it's very weird.

And, and certainly the Hellfire Club was one of these groups that was doing this kind of thing.

So that it's it's not like the founding fathers were all pure and everything was like brilliant with them either like that.

There's also a lot of darkness in in amongst that.

But we can at least say, OK, on the surface, it appears it was a good thing for humanity.

It did produce some more freedom.

There was some more independence.

Britain still retained control over the US government, even though it kind of broke away.

It's still, it still was beholden to Britain in a lot of ways with the English crown, the British crown owning a lot of land, you know, like there's, there's still a lot there cannot an argument can be made that basically the US didn't really achieve full independence.

But be that as it may, what was going on in the US was that there were, there was a lot of awareness among the general population then about the power of private central banks.

And, and, and it's, it's great that the people back then, the colonists back then knew that because if you look at the average person today in America, they really have no clue about it, which is really sad.

Like people have been deliberately dumbed down.

But the colonists back then were like, we are not using, it's called script.

We're not using English script.

We're gonna like we will.

We That's if.

If you force that on us, we will revolt.

Basically, that was enough for them to revolt against.

And so the early days of the US saw a number of kind of private central banks, but they were strictly limited and they had charters.

And then sometimes the charter wasn't renewed.

And the Rothschilds were the main ones that were behind this.

And they had other, there were other rich banking families that were trying to get in on it, that the Rothschilds were the Keefe family, you know, pushing this.

And so they had a first central bank and a second central bank.

But by the time we got around to Andrew Jackson in the 1820s and 1830s, he was a very interesting character, right?

On the one hand, he was super racist.

He hated Native American Indians.

He killed a lot of them.

He refused to shake hands with them, you know, even when they allied with him to help him defeat people.

So, you know, there's an ugly side to his character, but one thing that he was very aware of was central banks.

And he he hated the central banks.

He saw them as like the chief source of misery.

They would basically take control of the economy.

They would change all the prices, they would cause inflation.

They would run people off their land because people couldn't pay their mortgages.

So it's the same kind of trick that's that's going on today was going on back then.

And then they would just take the land.

So they would basically create these artificial boom and bust cycles, inflate everything up, call the deads in and impoverish people by taking real assets, gold, silver, real estate.

And so he saw all this very clearly.

And it was to him, it was such an important point that he made at the central part of his platform.

OK.

And because he was a very articulate and charismatic guy, he was able to communicate this to people and people liked him and voted for him.

And so he became president and he was like, OK, no, there's going to be no central bank under me.

And so it came round.

He was the president when it came round for the renewal of the charter.

And he vetoed it.

And, and we still have the, the, the paper, the, the, what he wrote in, in, in like defense of his argument.

And he laid it all out of like, why he vetoed this.

And so basically the Rothschilds weren't having any of this.

And they were like, all right, like we need to get this guy.

So they were funding his opponent politically, they were doing everything they could.

But things reached a point where then, then they decided to move to one of their key, key methods, which they still do today very much, which was assassination.

And so he was the 1st president that had an assassination attempt on him, but it failed.

As luck would have it, the guy tried to shoot him twice and his gun misfired.

And so Andrew Jackson was his tall guy.

He had a walking stick or a cane.

And so he got the guy instead of beating him on the pavement with his walking stick.

So he survived a couple of assassination temps.

He defeated the bank.

And then he had kind of like a vice president, Madame Van Buren, who wasn't quite as charismatic, but he he also believed, like Jackson did, that a bank was horrible.

And so Van Buren took over and became president, but he wasn't able to really like hold things together.

And so, you know, there was there was all this stuff going on in the in the 1840s in, in America.

And it seems like that the people don't know their own history.

Like this is super important to realize that for a lot of the history of the US, it's been a struggle against having a central bank.

But yet somehow that knowledge might have been in the minds of the people from 1776 to maybe like 1890 or 1900.

But by the time we got there, something had happened.

I think by then we had the rise of the Rockefellers, which were originally kind of Rothschild agents, but then they became a very powerful banking family in their own rights.

And so basically, let me just quickly touch on Abraham Lincoln, because the reason Abraham Lincoln was killed was not was not because of slavery, other things.

It was because he was opposed to a central bank.

He actually met with the Rothschilds and they proposed some something to him, some outrageous thing where there would be going to be a central bank and they would charge all this interest on the money.

And he kind of politely met with him and said, OK, yeah, let me think about it.

And then once I left, he was like, OK, I'm never, ever going to be doing any business with these guys.

Like we're never going to have a central bank controlled by these guys under my watch.

And so he pushed back against it with all his might.

And then they did the same thing.

They hired John Wilkes Booth, who was whose father was Jewish.

So there's a Jewish connection there, the Crypto Jew connection.

They got him to successfully kill Lincoln and then they got Lincoln out of the way.

It took them another few decades, but eventually what happened was the Federal Reserve Act got passed in secret by all these rich banking families meeting on Jekyll Island.

And if you want to know more about that, you can read Gia Witt Griffin's book, The Creature of Jekyll Island.

But basically in 1913 we had the Federal Reserve Act passed establishing a central bank.

And this time it wasn't for 10 or 20 year charter, it was 100 year charter.

It got renewed in 2013 without most of the American public even realizing it.

So things had really changed, but basically set up the current system and the Rothschilds finally got their way and started to bring America under under heel by having a Federal Reserve Bank, which is completely privately owned.

It's it's a whole trick.

The Federal Reserve is not federal and it doesn't really have reserves because it uses this fractional reserve banking trick where they are able to create money out of nothing.

And so, you know, this is this is a real history of humanity and this is really what controls societies.

When you have private people issuing the currency you, you have, you have like a massive power that's in their hands.

And it wasn't long before they were creating the boom busts that eventually led to the Great Depression, the 1929 crash.

And then they had Roosevelt in their pocket, another 33rd degree Mason.

He did the gold confiscation.

He did all sorts of stuff for them, including getting them into World War 2.

So they had control of America from that point on, sadly.

So they already had control of Europe, They had control of America.

And so since then, they've basically been trying to bring every single country in the world under their control, either through war, through economics, through getting a central bank in them.

Unbelievable.

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm enjoying this.

I'll comment that I know you mentioned about let's see kind of the genesis around the, the, the Rothschilds and and and and and and and frankism in the kind of that that merging and such.

I don't know if you care to share or unpack any of your thoughts as it relates to this is what I've heard about kind of the Bank of England and Dutch creditors and the crypto, you know, Jews that that I, I suspect we're we're kind of behind that Cromwell.

I've I've I've heard and I, I, I don't know if you care to unpack that.

Was that just another cadet like branch of it or?

I'm just curious if you have any thoughts on that if you care to.

Yeah, I can talk a bit about that.

So the, the, the best way to understand it is that this cult is it doesn't think in terms of countries.

Countries for it are just kind of like departments of a big corporation that is trying to set up a big world government corporation.

And so it basically moves its headquarters to wherever it is best suited to conduct its kind of predatory policies.

So what, what we had was we, we had, we had the rise of it in the Middle East.

Then basically we had, we had sabotage EVY and all that in Turkey.

But the, a lot of the crypto Jews and, and the money makers had moved to Italy around 1500 ish.

And so they were, they, they had, the Templars were involved in this as well.

They, they'd started their own kind of private banking system in a sense.

And they were using this idea of fractional reserve lending.

And Italy was a very good base for their operations at that time.

And it wasn't a unified country, but they were based in Genoa and Venice.

And even the word Venice, Venetian, that's very similar to the word Phoenician.

And the Phoenicians were an earlier civilization that was seafaring.

They had amassed the art of navigation very well.

And so they were sailing all throughout the Mediterranean and then up out along the whole coast of Spain, England, up to Norway.

And so so they were trading with all sorts of people.

And the Phoenicians originally come from that area of the Middle East where Palestine and Lebanon is.

So it's, it's that that's how kind of how this whole thing evolved.

You can trace it back to the Middle East as well, but basically by, by the 1500s, they, they were, they were based in, in Italy, they were trading, they were, they were starting to control, have monopolies over all this using their money.

And the Catholic Church has always been opposed to usury.

Now usury again is another one of these words that used to be more commonly the concept of usury used to be more well known in humanity.

And I believe this is just another way that we're being kind of dumbed down because now if you say that to an average person, they're like, what does that word even mean?

They might not even understand the word or the concept, but it's basically just the lending of money with interest.

Now, this was a really important thing if you go back into the times of the three main religions, because Islam and Christianity took very strong stands against usury.

They were, they forbade it.

They're like, you know, this can, this can basically make slaves out of people.

If if you let people charge interest on money, it's it's illegal, We're not going to allow it.

It's immoral.

Judaism allowed it, but not between Jews.

They allowed it between Jews and non Jews.

So this is another way where the Satanic cult was able to use Judaism for their advantage.

They were like, well, we might as well be Jewish because this is, you know, this is how we want to control the world.

That's how you want to get rich and control people.

But basically Italy at that time, especially Genoa and Venice were areas where they could lend money with interest, They could do usury, they could start to control.

But then the Catholic Church was starting to become strong and it was having a exerting an influence over Italy.

And it was saying you can't, you can't basically do this.

And there were, there were wars actually led by the Pope and his armies against the, the crypto Jews and, and the money lenders.

And so they left Italy because it no longer became kind of a suitable base of operations.

And then they moved over to Spain.

And for a while they were able to operate in Spain and, and see, when people, people look at like the rise and fall of empires, they're like, wow, you know, the Spanish Empire was so powerful.

How did it fall?

The the British Empire was so powerful.

What, what we, you know, some people don't understand in their analysis is that it was actually these, these power brokers, these money lenders that, that, that were associated with the Satanic cult that were moving their base of operations and they were funding these empires.

And that's why these empires became so strong.

And that's definitely the case with the Spanish Empire because when you had all these people that were moving to Spain and setting up and like lending money out and lending money to the monarchy and all this, then Spain became influent, like had a lot of money.

And it became influenced by this, this mindset as well of like conquest and territorialness and expansion.

And so the Spanish became very powerful.

They sent out, you know, their ships to the New World, colonized a lot of places.

And so that, that went on for a while until the same thing happened where, you know, it might have been the force of the Catholicism or religion or whatever, but the, the money lenders realized, OK, Spain is no longer becoming a good place for us to operate.

There's too many laws against usury and things like that.

So then they moved up the coast and they moved up to the Netherlands.

And for a while the Netherlands became like a key power center in the world that, that the Dutch also had like colonization going on.

And so that that worked for a while, but then then the laws changed in the Netherlands and it wasn't favorable to them.

And so then they set their sights on England.

And England is still to this day, one of the key power centers of this cult.

But England, England became a real power Center for them.

They established the Bank of England in the 1600s.

That's, that's how far back this goes.

And and then they they funded the power of the British Empire, which became arguably that the most powerful empire in the world.

And I mean, it lasted pretty much until 1900.

That was around the time when the US started to eclipse it.

But I mean, you know, even even today, British, British control is, is really a key part of what runs the world.

Even though the British no longer have the world's best Navy like they did, their relationship with the US and their control over the US is, is hugely important as well as you know, that there's the center of banking in London.

And then and then MI 6 and military intelligence, 6/1 of the key spy agencies, which coordinates with the Mossad in Israel and the CIA in America.

And basically, if you look, if you want to name 3 military intelligence agencies or spy agencies that run the world, they would be the three MI 6 Mossad, CIA.

But between them, they are behind so many assassinations, coups, false flag operations and wars.

I mean, massive amounts of, of, of stuff in the world, evil stuff is happening because of those three agencies.

And ultimately, you know, when you look at all these agencies around the world, if you, if you go to the very high level, highest levels of them all, it connects, it connects all to this satanic cult that they've infiltrated all of them.

But anyway, the British Empire was, was very conducive to, to, to these private bankers.

And so that's that's why they set up there and they remained there for a very long time with this center of operations.

Then they eventually moved it over to the US, at least the military side of it.

And for a while they were running the financial side out of Britain and the military side out of the US.

And then recently, what I've noticed in the last maybe decade or so is that there is now finally another shift.

So we've, we've gone from like the Middle East to Italy to Spain to the Netherlands to, to Britain to the US.

Now power shifting back east and then moving the center of operations back to like Russia and China, especially China, because China's their model, China is, is the model for how they want the whole world to be a top down one party state where average citizens that there aren't even elections.

The average citizen really can't can't do much about the government that's in power.

They just have to accept it.

And and the technocracy, all, all the, all the technocratic elements that China's rolling out right now and its citizens, such as social credit scores, such as publicly shaming its citizens when they like jaywalk or do innocent crimes.

They actually have billboards at people's photos up and they start displaying their faces and like this person did this crime and like showing that social credit score or whatever.

China's also automatically deducting fines from people's bank accounts.

Like there's no, there's no due process or anything.

Like you do some infraction or infringement, 10 minutes later, your bank accounts being deducted with money and that's it.

You have no recourse.

You have nothing.

There's nothing you can do.

People in China are being banned from buying train tickets or plane tickets if they get on the wrong side of the government.

It could be things like not visiting the elderly parents enough, not being a good citizen enough.

I mean, all sorts of stuff like this system is already going on in China.

This is a system, unfortunately they have planned for the whole world.

And This is why they want to now take their money and power out of the US and Britain and the West, bring it over to China and Russia and, and maybe BRICS, who knows exactly.

But there's, there's definitely being this tendency to kind of now prop China up.

And unfortunately, these once, once they have control of the money supply, they have the power to bring nations to their knees.

They can, they can withdraw money from governments and militaries and put them in other countries and militaries that they want to prop up.

And they can change the effect, like change the whole course of history and change which countries rise and fall, which civilizations rise and fall.

This is the power they have in their hands.

It is, it is just crazy.

And they're using it for evil for their own benefit.

Oh my gosh.

Wow.

OK, so number number of questions that I have and we can ask him in in any different order at some point.

I would love to get your take on the Talmud and kind of some details on that.

And then the hegemony that is expressed by this cabal and then the assassinations and, and other things going on and other figures who are a part of it.

And then I'm trying to think of another category or topic that I'm, that I'm intrigued or, or curious about why?

I guess I'll, I guess I'll ask you as it relates to you.

You mentioned China as, as being the kind of this Petri dish or this, you know, poster, poster boy or fill in the blank for what, what they want to see happen.

And it is very alarming.

I've seen some videos of, you know, the facial recognition technology and I actually saw someone post something on, I don't know if it was on X or I don't know, it's one of those shorts somebody posted on about how they had paid cash at at a store like a Walmart or Target or something.

They had paid cash at a store and somehow received an e-mail like it was like a receipt after they went to the store and they had paid cash and they did not have their phone with them too.

They made that very clear.

I don't know if you saw that, but I guess to me that was kind of spooky because I'm like, OK, were being surveilled like this is like just even this having this conversation and I'm having this with you in a in a public sitting.

They're already occurring.

My social credit, you know, this guy's this guy is trying to shine the light on these topics and and diving into it.

So it's a very real thing for those who who haven't really dived down that rabbit hole.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, I haven't seen that, that clip, but it doesn't surprise me, you know, the amount of the amount of ways that they have to track US.

I mean, it's crazy.

You know, people, people have been reporting for a while that they say something to their family member or in the privacy of their own home.

Then they go to their computer and they're on YouTube or some site and suddenly an AG comes up for the exact thing that we're just talking about in private 5 minutes ago.

Well, actually, it's not really in private because your phone's listening to everything you say and they're gathering all these data points on you and then feeding into some system.

I mean, and then targeting you with ads is just one of the, one of the ways they can use it against you.

But that's, that's actually a really a benign thing in the, in the like, I don't like it.

But when we're talking about the stuff that they're capable of, that's very low on the totem pole because they can be using all this to psychologically manipulate you and to get inside your head and control you, you know, so, yeah, it's, it's scary.

It's scary the, the, the state that we're already in and, and, and there's much more to come with where they want to take this.

So we do absolutely need to be aware and wake up as quickly as possible.

There was as many people as possible.

But to get to your question, so the Talmud, so the Talmud is one of the three Jewish holy books alongside the Torah and the Kabbalah.

The Talmud is particularly horrific in terms of its Jewish supremacy.

I mean, it's very openly just Jews are one kind of person.

And the rest of the Jews, the gentiles, or they call them the Goyam.

The Goyam are another type and they're two different entities altogether.

What goes for Jews?

Like Jews have one rule and then goyim have like completely another rule.

And it's, and it's permitted for Jews to steal from goyam to RIP them off, to like do all these things.

And not only that, but the, the Talmud basically promotes and endorses pedophilia.

It has all these, all these sections about, you know, dissecting, getting into the details.

Is it OK for a, for a, an adult Jewish male to sleep with a goyam, a non Jew 3 year old girl?

Is that considered pedophilia if he rapes her?

Like like sick stuff.

Like it goes into all the detail of like, well, in this situation it's OK.

And this it isn't.

And I mean, it is really mind blowing to think that they're putting this much energy into defining all their rules.

And at no point are they ever considering pedophilia is wrong, regardless of like religion, race, anything.

It's just, it's wrong.

Like stealing is wrong, you know, it's, it's all about justifying all these sick behaviors.

So sure, I mean, there's probably like good quotes you can pull from it, just you can pull a lot of good quotes from a lot of holy books.

But yeah, I mean that the passages in the Talmud about Pefilia are really sickening.

And so, you know, this is this is a book that a lot of study and it influences their their world views.

And and this is also fueling the, the whole Israeli Palestinian thing that's been going on for so long because there's so many Israeli kids that are brought up that are brain brainwashed with this and brave wants to think that the Palestinians are there like biblical enemy, even though they're not.

I mean, they don't even have to be an enemy.

You can live in peace.

But even if you consider them an enemy, it's maybe been 70 years or whatever.

But you know, they just equate the Palestinians with some biblical enemy that was apparently murdering Jews thousands of years ago.

And they're like, well, the Palestinians are like this guy, so we should kill the Palestinians.

You know, none of it makes sense.

It's just nonsense.

It's illogical, but this is the kind of things that's going on.

This this hate, hatred and genocide is fueled by this religious superstition and lack of logic and lack of reason.

So yeah, that's the Talmud.

Your other question was about assassination.

So yeah, this is an important thing.

There was an Israeli journalist called Ronan Bergman who released a book in around 2018.

It's called Rise and Kill 1st.

And he basically outlines, he spoke to a lot of heads of Israeli intelligence, Mossad heads, ex Mossad heads, people, people that are involved in all these operations and they're basically telling him what happened.

And so his research uncovered that at the time of writing, the state of Israel had conducted 2700 assassination operations around the world.

And, and they strike worldwide.

They don't just strike in Israel or just in the Middle East.

And, and often these assassination operations were targeting key figures around the world.

I mean, very high up people.

They killed UN ambassadors and diplomats that went to the Middle East even in like the 1940s before Israel was a country like Lloyd Morn, Lloyd Morn Bernadette.

They killed JFK probably the most I, I would say high profile assassination of the Kennedy brothers, John F Kennedy in 1963, Robin F Kennedy's brother in 1968.

Absolutely.

I, I cover that in my book, The Cult of the Chosen ones.

Israel is the key player behind these assassinations.

They're not the only factor in it, but they are the key factor.

They're also the key factor in, in 911 and it's the Mossad, mostly the, the main Israeli intelligence spy network.

They, they also have military intelligence agency called Amman.

They also have the Shin Bet, their local police force, which is kind of like the FBI.

But the Mossad has has gained the reputation for being absolutely ruthless and willing to use assassination as a key tactic, as a key kind of, I guess method of war.

And so they, they were, they were showed that they were willing to do this on American soil against, you know, arguably the most powerful country in the world in the 1960's, the US kill their own president and get away with it.

You know, they, they've successfully covered it up to this day, not that many people really understand the Israeli connection in the JFK assassination.

And, you know, and even today we see that they, they, they strike Israel, Iranian nuclear scientists, they're trying to kill.

They would have killed the supreme leader of Iran.

How many if they could have?

They've said that they killed the Hezbollah leader, Nasrallah.

In the last few years, they've killed all sorts of people.

You know, they, they frequently operate in Paris and Europe.

Yeah.

I mean, assassination is, is absolutely one of the key things that they, they, even when they, they launch attacks on other countries, often they start by killing their leaders before they go in and then, you know, drop bombs or do whatever the next thing is.

So it's not surprising when you trace it all the way back because the Rothschilds are doing this with Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Jackson in the 8 hundreds.

And now the modern day state of Israel has taken the art of assassination or the science of assassination to a whole new level with with like the cold hearted, ruthless, calculated way that they execute it.

No doubt.

OK, so while, while, while I digest that there, let me ask you to go back to an earlier point you made for, for the Talmud.

And, and I'm, I'm genuinely curious and trying to understand this because I, you know, wasn't exposed to this or raised around it.

So the, the the Talmud is, is, is one of the, one of the three central books in Judaism and anyone who practices the Jewish faith will be, I guess, inculcated by it.

Is that is that correct?

Well, not, not exactly because there there are different sects within Judaism and there are some sects that are like only study the Torah, which was the original book.

And then I've also mentioned the Kabbalah as well.

So all three of them are kind of different.

And you know that there are actually Jewish sects that oppose Zionism.

You know, that that's, that's a key point here.

Not all Jews, Zionists, there are in fact many Jews that are opposed to Zionism and think that this idea of a, of a Jewish state, a political military nation is anathema to true Judaism and, and is a total distortion because for them, Judaism is a religion.

It's not a race and it's not a nation.

And so, for example, there's a group called True Torah Jews.

And they, they often protest the Israeli government's crimes against Palestinians.

They stand up for the Palestinians.

And they're like, we are not, not, we are not Zionists.

We oppose the state of Israel.

We, we want to live in peace with the Palestinians.

There's another group called Neuter Ikata, same thing.

They, they follow the Torah and they believe the Torah doesn't give Israel the right to exist as a country.

There are, there are rabbis, Jewish rabbis that are both that are more aware and awake and they've spoken out against this.

There's a guy I quoted in my book called Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro.

He talks about how the Torah says that the the Jewish homeland is, is a spiritual thing.

It's not a geographical thing.

And that Judaism was always a religion.

And that somewhere along the line it became twisted into, you know, this false idea that Jews are a race.

But there, there is no evidence when you really research that, that the, the Jews are a race.

There's no such thing as a Jewish race or Jewish DNA or Jewish genetics that that is a falsehood that's being propagated by by these Zionists because they want to kind of get as many people as possible to Israel to like build up the Jewish majority there.

But they also want to kind of just fool people with this Jewish identity between like religion, race, nation, and kind of divert criticism away from people.

But there are I, I quote Jewish authors.

Another one is Shlomo Sand.

He was a professor of history at Tel Aviv in Israel.

And he, he's talked about how, how he quit being a Jew and that and that there is no Jewish DNA.

And any, any argument put forward for Jewish DNA is nonsensical and absurd.

And he he kind of logically rebuts it.

And he's like, you know, Judaism is like a collection of customs and cultures and religious values.

It's not, it's not anything more than that.

And, and so this, this was originally what United a Jew and Morocco and Yemen and Eastern Europe, you know, they, they, they had similar kind of customs and religious beliefs and that's it.

There, there is no Jewish DNA.

And so, you know, when we talk about our, our old Jews inculcated by the Talmud, No, they're not because they don't all, they don't study that.

Some just study the Torah.

It's, it's a diverse, it's a diverse thing.

And, and we've got one end of the spectrum who were totally pro Zionist and pro Israel.

And we've got to the other end of the spectrum that are like totally opposed to Zionism in Israel.

I think it's an abomination.

And so it's, it's, you know, it's one of those things where the more you study your more, the more you realize there is actually a huge variety of people that call themselves Jews.

Yeah, it's, you know, I, I just find the whole topic absolutely fascinating.

And, and it, and it seems to me this is my mental model of it in that throughout history, when people say it's the Jews or it's this, you know, throughout, throughout the ages, they are they're erroneously attributing it to everybody.

And and I know you mentioned, I think during you mentioned about a million of Jews that were that were part of it.

But basically overall, if I'm just making a broad broach, when people say it's the Jews, what they what they are really in reference to but failed to mention is the satanic element to it is that is that kind of Fair?

I'm just trying to get that out and just trying to understand summary.

Yeah, yeah, because it's really just that the the.

Threat of Satanism that's running through it so even yeah, absolutely.

Like it's intellectually lazy to say it's the Jews because it's clearly not all the Jews and there's a lot of Jewish people that would be horrified if they knew what was being done in their name.

Absolutely.

And and and they're the people that I really want to reach with this message.

I really want good Jews around the world to stand up and go you know what I reject this chosen people ideology.

I don't believe myself superior to anyone else in the world just because I'm a Jew, you know that doesn't make me any different to any other human.

There are a lot of Jews that see that and there are a lot of Jews that if they if they realize what the what the state of Israel is doing with it all its assassination and genocide, they would be horrified and they wouldn't want that done in their name either.

And yeah, your points right about Sabatize Evie.

Yeah, the Sabatine Francis would have been particularly influential and being a very evil and dangerous cult.

But even them, it's not like they're the only form of evil in the world.

It's really just this satanic cult that found its way through Sabatize Evie and Jacob Frank and infiltrated Judaism.

But there is there has been evil before that existed before the rise of sabotage heavy.

And so it's really just this this Satanism, this idea that people should be controlled.

The people can be like raped and murdered and killed for the for the benefit and the pleasure of the people doing it.

And that, you know, there's, there's a whole other dimension to this.

And I don't, I don't know if you want to get into this or if there's even time to get into it.

But when, when you really look at like, OK, what's what's the, what's the root of all this Satanism?

Then what's the root of the Satanic cult?

Well, my research shows that this goes off planet and then that basically there's entities, non human entities, non human forces that are really directing this from another dimension.

Yeah.

Feel free to unpack that if you if.

You wish, and I'll just add preference before you comment that it.

It does seem more and more of the case, at least to me, that that that there's something there to to us.

So please, if you'd like to provide your, if you'd like to unpack that for us, we can dive into that.

So so basically.

I, when I was researching the, the satanic rituals that were happening and I, I was listening to all the different people that a lot of them are women, brave women that have survived this, listening to their stories.

Some of these women had actually not just been survivors, but they've been brought up in in satanic families and like groomed to be participant, not just participants, but to to lead this one day when they were adults and listening to their stories of how they broke away from this, this cult.

It's, it's fascinating.

But what they often talk about is how the people at these rituals, they get themselves into this, they whip themselves up into this frenzy and, and, and, and this state where there, there, there's all this adrenaline there.

They're they're basically in a non non ordinary state of consciousness.

And what's happening is that they're opening up a portal with another dimension.

They're basically accessing things you can't normally access or can't normally see.

And some kind of portal is being opened between here and some other dimension who knows exactly where or what.

But basically it's allowing a two way kind of communication going on where the people, the humans that are doing this feel like they're getting something.

They're getting some kind of power or rush or information ideas from, from something on this other side, some of the entities or whatever on the other side and the other entities are also implanting ideas and thoughts into the minds of the people in these rituals.

And then because we have some of the most powerful people in the world doing these rituals, talking about, you know, US presidents, like prime minister's presidents, royalty, then these ideas come back and, and they filter down eventually and become government policy.

And so it's coming from, from this satanic rituals in this other realm.

And what's, what's also kind of the thing about ritual is that it can be used in a, in a positive way or a negative way.

So you can have white magic or black magic.

So you can, you can use ritual and get into different states of being and access more of your consciousness and then use that to like promote World Peace or promote abundance for everyone.

So there's no world hunger or whatever it is.

You can, you can use it for like great things for yourself or for like, you know, the, the world or collect collectively.

But what the people that are black magicians are doing it, they're using it to further their gender of control and shape the world into this top down hierarchical system where there's rulers and slaves.

That's what they're using it for.

And so, yeah, they're accessing, they're accessing the states of consciousness and like tapping into this dark evil source of energy, entities that are, that are putting ideas in their minds, evil ideas.

And and then they're getting off on it.

And then part of part of what's happening as well is that they're drinking blood.

So they're getting like the rush of human blood.

They're often sacrificing babies and drinking like the young blood of, of humans.

And there's something about this kind of prepubescent blood that makes them, gives them a particular high.

And this is where we get all these stories of adrenochrome from which, you know, some people might come into this might say, oh, that just sounds like some crazy conspiracy theory.

Well, actually there is a science to it.

It's it's sick and evil.

But basically they're getting victims there, young children and they're scaring them to death.

Then they're killing them.

They're scaring them to death so that their brain is secreting all these chemicals into the bloodstream, right?

Like terror and fear, all all these neurochemicals going into the bloodstream.

Then they kill them and drink their blood and then they are ingesting those chemicals and that is giving them a high that they're like taking this evil stick twisted pleasure in.

And and so this, this is all part of it as well.

This kind of like torture and sacrifice and blood drinking adrenochrome.

And then there's a whole other part of it as well that has to do with the reptilian influence, because there are survivors that have been to these rituals and they've seen the people get into these frenzied states, drinking blood, making contact.

And they've actually seen them turn into reptiles for a minute, shape shift into something, and then ship, ship back into a human form.

And when David Icke came out with with this information years ago, a lot of people ridiculed him.

But ever since then, there's been more and more and more evidence that actually this is what's going on, that there is something weird going on where they're able to change form or not.

David has done a lot of great work exposing the roots of this and how there's actually a higher percentage of reptilian DNA or genetics in certain bloodlines around the world.

And these bloodlines have moved into positions of power.

But I, I see evidence for this, you know, even more unlike our current news cycle.

So let's take the story of Jeffrey Epstein, for example, because he's been in the news a lot even now, although he allegedly killed himself, not really, but was written out of the script in 2019.

While here we are at seven years later in 2026.

There's still so much to to learn about Epstein.

Epstein was an Israeli intelligence asset.

He may have been Mossad or he may have been Amman.

Regardless of which agency he worked for, he was absolutely part of this whole Israeli operation.

He was running a a black male sex trafficking ring to to entrap top celebrities and politicians, getting them on tape, having sex with kids and doing other stuff and then using that against them.

But one of the survivors of Epstein, who was called Juliet Bryant from South Africa, is still recalling all the abuse that she suffered under Epstein.

And she said in one-on-one occasion, she woke up and she was on some kind of like almost like a hospital bed, a scientific experimental bed.

And Epstein was raping her.

And right at the point of orgasm, she saw Epstein's face change into a reptile just for a few seconds, and then it changed back.

And she she kind of questioned whether it had really happened.

She was like, did I?

Did I see that?

Was that real?

Like, what, what the hell am I thinking?

But she's like, no, no, I saw that.

I I can't explain it.

I don't know what it was, but I saw it.

And so that's that's just very interesting because this is this is the same kind of thing a lot of survivors have said.

They're like, I almost don't know if I saw that.

But yeah, I did see it.

And when you have all these different people from different walks of life, different countries saying the same thing over and over again, to me, that's a solid point of like, OK, this is, this is a piece of evidence that needs to be taken seriously and open mindedly.

You know, why, why would they make that up?

You know, it's, it's, it's a very bizarre and weird thing.

So we even have people now talking about it.

We have people talking about it.

20-30 years.

David Icke, if if you want really the background of this has done whole books exploring the whole reptilian influence on humanity going back thousands of years.

This is another key part of the satanic ritual and and yeah, it does connect.

It all connects in the end of the day, the non the non human entities, reptilians, satanic ritual connects to Jeffrey Epstein, connects to Satanism, Sabati Zevi Sabati and Frankism, Israel's control of the world.

It's it's all it's all part of the same story.

You're reminding me of the quote All roads.

Lead to Rome so.

In this case all roads lead to Satanism and some non human force.

Yeah, OK.

So.

Wow, you just.

Impact a lot.

So I thought I thought I'd share with the audience, especially for those in the audience who are not familiar with this or they have and they think it's still kind of out there in La La land.

And I'll just preface I was raised in a pretty straight laced family.

So we're not into quirk, you know, wacky stuff or doing that, you know, pretty, pretty, a pretty educated family.

And I like to think.

And so my, my folks don't subscribe to this per SE.

So this is, this is just me though, what I'm going to say.

But I first started hearing it and, you know, I don't know, years ago, I, I'd never really thought to do research into it again, bringing on guests and talking about the Satanism stuff, which I was just like, why am I hearing this?

And then going down that rabbit hole and then encountering this.

And Anika Lucas talked about who is someone I I admire and, and respect.

And I think she does a really good job of just kind of unpacking it, but also in a way that is palatable and receptive to your average Joe.

She she made a reference to that on I think it was the Imagination podcast or, or one of these.

She made some reference to that.

So I thought, Oh my gosh, she's referencing it.

OK.

And then Julia Bryant, I did watch the I did watch her and listen to her saying that.

I just thought, that's crazy.

OK, what's another wrinkle here?

Obviously I've spoken about it for some time.

Oh, yeah.

The other thing is that I'm forgetting, I'm forgetting the guy.

He's Australian.

I guess he was like the equivalent of like their CBS, like big time person in the news.

He's been in all the UFO stuff.

I don't, I don't know the guy's name, but he's Australian.

And I'm actually looking at, I'm blanking on the guy's name.

But anyhow, I'm, I'm mentioning him because he mentioned 'cause he's been doing all, he's been digging into the UFO stuff and he's mentioned about different species here and I thought this guy talking about Doctor Michael Sala.

Different guy, different guy.

I can hear I'm just going to bring it up here just and I can always edit this out here Australian.

Ross Coulthard.

Am I saying that wrong?

I'm not sure.

I know Ross Coulthard.

He's Australian investigative journalist, author and documentary producer.

Anyhow, I guess he's from the UK.

I, I don't know any.

Anyhow, he he, he, he was mentioning that.

And so I'm just like, OK, why is this going?

And then you hear about all the UFO stuff and you're like, OK, I'm hearing about all this going on.

So I was like, you know what, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised.

I, I, I really wouldn't be surprised.

OK, so then, and feel free to chime in if you, if there's something you'd like to add.

So would you say this, this cabal, I'll just call it the Cabal, the Satanic Network, They, they pretty much run, run the show globally.

Is that a fair assessment?

They do, but I, you know, for me, I.

Wouldn't do this work if I wasn't optimistic.

I'm not, I'm not the kind of person that's like black pilled or depressed or like, oh, it's hopeless.

Like this is the end.

We're all going to be inside.

No, like I think we have a chance to rise up and break our chains and to stop this.

But it's going to take a lot of awareness.

First of all of what's going on, opening, opening mind broadening perception.

Then it's going to take a lot of courage for people to stand in their power to speak their truth, to share information, to speak freely, and to warn other people.

Now, there's going to be a certain amount of people that aren't going to have the awareness and they're not going to have the courage.

But it doesn't, it doesn't take everyone, you know, often it only takes 5% of the people to be aware, on fire with the truth and like determined to stand in their rights and to die for it.

That makes a difference.

And, and, and if you, if you look at like different movements throughout history, often that's all it's taken 3 or 5% that are like passionate that, that wake people up, that, that bring people on board with their agenda.

So we don't need everyone to wake up originally initially, but we do need a certain amount of people to, to get wise to this and to, and to stand up and, and, and push back and whatever, whatever way they can, whatever they feel called to do, whatever their talent is.

You know, they're, some people are good at writing books, some are good at making movies, some are good at art, some are good at podcasts.

Like what?

Whatever it is like, whatever your, your way is of, of standing for truth and freedom.

We need as many people as possible doing that.

And we can, we can like defeat this cult, but we're going to have to do that.

And we're not really going to have a choice because the the doors are closing in.

I mean, with every year that goes by, AI is getting better and better.

The ability to distinguish between what is real and what is fake is getting more difficult.

Technological control systems, whether it's like things in China, but all around the world are being rolled out.

There's plans for CBDC's, there's plans for digital IDs.

All of this agenda that this satanic called is behind is rapidly accelerating.

So we don't, we don't have the luxury of sitting around and waiting like we have to wake up now and we have to get as many people on board and aware of the truth.

Absolutely.

And then one.

Other question I'd like to ask just to better.

Understand geopolitics, we mentioned about earlier the the theatrical component to things going on and just if we can get more granular just because I'm trying to wrap my head around this because it sounds so crazy that things are just like scripted like like it's like, or it's just like a actor.

It's, you know, the all the world's a stage kind of thing like a Shakespeare quote.

OK, Would you say, OK, and you may have covered this, so forgive me if you did, but it would it be possible in that, you know, well, I guess, I guess you already rendered that.

I'm just thinking here, well, we can, we can talk about some current affairs.

I mean, look, let's look what's.

Happened in the last week.

So we had the kidnapping of Maduro.

Now, on the surface, you can say, oh, you know, the US and Venezuela are like enemies and they're almost at war.

And, well, I mean, this is an act of war unquestionably, just as shooting Venezuelan fishing boats in international waters and like, seizing Venezuelan oil tankers.

That's that's an act of war.

So the US has basically declared war on Venezuela.

Yeah, on one level that is true there.

There's always different levels to analyze this.

But on the other level, we have Maduro, who is pictured in a, a, a space of under 24 hours and four different clothes, four different clothing changes.

He's like doing thumbs up.

He's flushing other potential Masonic signs.

Is this real?

Like, is he in on it?

Like, how is it that the US was able to go in and capture Maduro with no, no defense from the Venezuelan military?

I mean, even even if their military is weaker than the US is, how was there no defense at all?

Are you saying that the US is so powerful that they somehow disabled, completely disabled the US?

Sorry, the Venezuelan military without any inside help?

Or was there some kind of inside help here, some kind of betrayal?

Were the Venezuelan generals or military in inside circle paid off in some way?

Are they part of this?

Is Maduro part of it?

These are really good questions to ask because it's definitely kind of suspicious with how this is how this has happened, Doesn't it doesn't make sense, right?

It just, it doesn't make sense.

OK, let's look at Israel and Iran.

Now.

It's unquestionable that Israel has been targeting Iran for literally decades.

It's been putting out all this propaganda saying how Iran is the the biggest state sponsor of terrorism in the world.

Actually, that's Israel.

But you know, Iran funds Hezbollah, Iran's ahead of the snake.

We're going to cut off the head of the snake, all this stuff.

OK.

So they've definitely been targeting Iran for a long time.

There's no doubt about that.

And they appeared to actually, you know, really did attack them in the 12 day war last year.

But at the same time, I I, I in the cult of the chosen ones I go.

Into.

Some of the background on Iran's leadership and how the current supreme leader Harmony was actually educated at a place in Russia called the People's University that also educated Mahmoud Abbas, the the head of the Palestinian Authority who basically does whatever Israel tells him to do.

So we have like, you know, Communist Russia educating these leaders that become Middle Eastern leaders.

So on the surface, Marxism or communism shouldn't really mix with Islam.

You know that they don't they don't really mix together.

I mean, Marxism and communism is a godless ideology.

How does that mix with Islam?

You know, but, but there, there are reports that books been written about how there were Mossad agents in Iran during the 1979 revolution when they decided to kick the char out, who the CIA had installed in 1953.

So, you know, there's been foreign meddling in Iran for a very long time.

They put the char in.

So he outlived his usefulness.

Then they switched it all up and put the Islamic kind of hardcore fundamentalists in in 1979.

Who's to say that they're not also controlled by the same Mossad CIA forces behind the scenes?

I'm sure that there's a lot of infiltration.

There's there's no doubt because Mossad had all these agents on the ground blowing up things during the 12 day war in June last year in Iran.

So how do we know that Iran is really a genuine opposition to Israel?

I mean, how do we know that it isn't infiltrated and that its leaders aren't kind of performatively going along with this because Iran could have hit Israel harder.

It didn't.

Iran.

Iran was even before the 12 Day war, there were a couple of times where we had like a couple of brief missile exchanges, right.

Iran notified everyone basically in advance.

OK, we're going.

To attack you guys.

OK, we're going to attack you guys, OK, We're attacking now.

Like the first time they did it, they sent these drones along that took like hours and hours to get there.

I mean, if you are really wanting to attack someone, you're not going to give them notification.

You're not going to send drones that take hours to fly there.

You're not going to do it in daylight like some people say.

Well, that's.

Because Iran is trying to minimize.

Civilian casualties and, you know, they're trying to not start a huge war with Israel because that could be bad for everyone, including that.

OK, there's, there's validity to that, but are they really attacking Israel or are they just kind of like sending a few missiles there to go, you know, like our people will be this will let off some pressure and steam.

Your people can be happy because you attacked Iraq.

Our people are happy because we fought back against Israel.

Like, you know, let's just let's just leave it like this.

Let's just leave it in this kind of like state.

Because if you go back to 1984, George All's classic book, he talks about how there were three, there were three basic countries, you know, East Asia, Eurasia, Oceania, who they were in power and they were never really at war with each other.

They told their populations they were at war with each other.

And it was really convenient for each of them to have other enemies like, oh, you know, we can't do this or that or you have to have austerity.

You have to have less Russians, less food, less this and that because we've got a war and we're fighting this enemy.

It's very convenient for populations, sorry for heads to tell their populations there's an enemy over there.

That's why like we need to do this, this and that.

We've got to beef up the military.

You got to have less food, less money, but really?

They kind of all coexisted in 1984 in a state of symbiosis.

They basically use each other as excuses to control their domestic population.

It was really just control.

So they basically had more in common with each other than their domestic populations.

They all, they all benefited from this kind of like fake antagonism.

They were like frenemies basically.

And so that's a very powerful analogy for what is probably happening with with the relationship between all these leaders in these countries.

And if you look at World War One, I mean, remember that time when the French and German soldiers were like, OK, we're taking Christmas off?

That was weird.

They were in the trenches fighting each other to the death the day before.

And then it was Christmas ceasefire.

They started smoking cigarettes with, with each other, sharing chocolate with each other, playing a soccer game.

And suddenly it was like, why are we even fighting?

You know, like, like a French farmer and a German farmer have way more in common with each other than their respective politicians.

And so the people at the top were probably super scared that this was going to last and peace would break out.

And, and suddenly people would forget why they were even fighting because all the propaganda and brainwashing that they'd had to like relentlessly put in to get people to hate each other and pick up arms and fight each other was going to wear off.

And so they tried to put a stop to that.

But I, but I kind of think it's the same thing here.

Like the average Israeli probably doesn't want to fight the average Iranian.

They probably have a lot in common and they've both been oppressed by their own governments.

So this is something we really need to keep in mind at all times, that if if humanity could just see beyond these ideologies of like nation, race, religion and all this other stuff.

And actually, you know, we realize we have all this in common and we've been manipulated by the same satanic cult.

OK, so then.

I guess that's the same thing with.

Zelensky and and Putin, if I'm understanding you correctly, in that it's theater.

Let's just keep slaughtering these called Orthodox Christians.

Let's keep slaughtering them and, and extract the resources and the organs and every other instrument that can be salvages.

Is that I'm.

I'm tracking you.

Yeah.

I mean, I I can't definitively.

Say, what's going on in?

Putin said.

I mean, you know, I, I think there is a fair argument to say Russia is trying to minimize civilian casualties.

I don't think the same could be said for Ukraine.

But I also kind of wonder if Russia was fighting a real war, it could have destroyed Ukraine in a month.

Is it really, is it really dragging this war on for this long just because it's trying to minimize civilian casualties?

Or is this all these other reasons why this war is happening that have to do with this kind of things?

George all was talking about, which is basically war as a way to get rid of excess production.

They don't want people in the lower and middle classes becoming too rich and affluent.

So all this extra stuff that is produced just gets wasted in war.

It achieves the goal of depopulation, which is these these New Order controllers are always talking about.

They're always talking about this eugenics idea of less people because they want to have a perfect number of rules and slaves.

And if there's too many people in the world, it's hard to for them to control people.

So they want to reduce the population.

War is a great way to do that.

So it seems like any war that's protracted is basically achieving all these goals that was set out in 1984.

And, you know, I think we have to really look at skepticism at Putin and Zelensky.

I mean, he's just he's a total puppet.

He's a total puppet.

That guy's like doesn't, doesn't move an inch without being told.

I mean, he even visited the head of MI 6 early on to get his instructions.

And that in itself is a very rare thing that a head of state would visit the head of a spy agency in another country.

That normally never happens.

Normally heads of state meet heads of state.

So that's a clue there that Zelensky's not, he's not really a head of state like he, he, he is like titularly in that position.

But he's, he's controlled, you know, he's a Manchuko puppet.

Yeah.

OK.

So OK.

And then let me ask you something tangentially here.

The vaccine, what do you what again, I'm kind of going off topic here, but what what do you think was in the vaccine?

Well, I did a lot of research on this at the.

Time during the COVID scandemic.

And I was showing a lot of images and independent researchers that were finding all sorts of nanotechnology in it.

And the nanotechnology was self replicating.

So there was there was a number of images where you could see these black circles forming and they and they were uniform.

So you would have them form in a row and then like a grid and they would go out and they would just start replicating.

And there were other images where there was almost like a circuit board sent being set up.

So from from what I can tell, the nanotechnology is they're trying to get it in the human body.

And the vaccine was one great way they could get it in, but they're also trying to get it in other ways.

I mean, even just through chemtrails, people suffering Morgals disease, people breathing in the air and all these synthetic life forms getting into people that way, that's happening as well.

But, but I think there's there's basically nanotechnology that is to some degree self aware.

I mean, it is self replicating.

I don't know if you could say it's fully alive or not, but it's trying to reproduce itself, to expand itself, to grow in a sense.

Maybe it is happening, tapping into the human energy field, the energy and blood or the electrical energy between nerves.

Maybe it's using the human body as an energy source, but I believe they're trying to put this stuff inside of the human body.

And this, this relates to the transhumanism agenda of trying to turn humans into machines.

So whatever, whatever the force is behind the satanic cult, it's, it's a non human force.

And so it's, it's, it's to me behind, it's the same thing.

It's, it's all leads back to the same place.

This, this same force is trying to turn everything that's natural and beautiful in this world into something artificial and synthetic, which is why we've had for so many decades now the rise of GMO food, which is artificial food.

They're trying, you know, they, they distort water, they distorting the air with chemtrails.

We have like women getting boob jobs, synthetic boobs.

We have synthetic body parts going, going into the human body.

Now sometimes you could say, well, that's that, you know, people need pacemakers to live or whatever.

You know, there's a good, there's a good use for that.

OK, maybe, but there's still an overarching synthetic agenda where they're trying to get people away from the natural and onto the synthetic.

Look at the whole thing with like fake meat and synthetic mood food made in bio labs that trying to push that really hard.

A lot of people are waking up to them going no, like that's not real food.

I don't want that in my body, but it's still being pushed.

Now we have AI pushing out fake images, fake writing, fake, fake videos where you, it's very difficult to tell what's what.

Again, like AI maybe can be a tool that's used for, for good in some ways.

But when you use it to basically destroy what's real and, and create fakery and then manipulate people to not be able to tell like real from fake, that's, that's the synthetic agenda.

So I, I see, I see all this as part of transhumanism and the synthetic agenda and trying to rob us about humanity, trying to sell this idea of putting things in our body injectables or the brain chips or something in your eye or something in your brain to make you connect to the Internet or see better or calculate faster.

I see all of this as a downgrade, not an upgrade of basically removing what what makes us human and, and stripping us away from our soul.

And so to me, it does really come back to a spiritual thing of like, what does it mean to be human?

What does it mean to be spiritual?

And can we retain our humanity in the face of this onslaught of this synthetic agenda?

OK, taking this all in here while I click.

My thoughts and let me know if you need to go.

Let me know if you need a pivot here.

I'll I'll just comment in that.

I'm just amazed by as I become awakened, so to speak, of the barrage of of chemicals and man made things that enter our body.

Let you know, just like even like the the clothing I wear, like, you know, some of the, you know, I wear like golf pants or something or like, you know, golf polo or, you know, etcetera.

It's all that polyester, right?

And it leaching into your body and you know, you, you take a shower and then I'm assuming it's got a bunch of, you know, chemicals or what have you that bleaches into you.

And then, you know, your toothpaste and then your deodorant.

I just the other day, like for deodorant, I saw I, I'm like, no aluminum, no, the paraben or whatever you call it.

And just becoming more aware of and it's crazy.

And then the sky and everything, the, the bioengineering food, like it's so much stuff that is like that, that you consume.

And then you mix that I think with the social media, which it, it can be good and could be bad.

Just like anything.

You've got so many people on antidepressants and on everyone is freaking drugged up and, and then the transgender stuff and all this stuff, like it's just like it, it's just crazy.

And I look at the, the, the, you know, I rarely watch TV, but if I'm walking by it, you know, and all the, all the, you know, the drugs that you see these pharmaceutical companies pushing out, like it's just like, this is insane to me.

And how many people are just the, you know, I've got, I've got family, they're in there, you know, 70s and, and, and, and they are completely clueless about a lot of this stuff.

It's CNN or it's, you know, Fox or one of these other platforms.

And I'm just like, you guys don't freaking get it.

And you know what, I, I suspect that I think a lot of those, I guess the term is zoomers or, or the Gen.

Z.

In some ways, they're more awakened than a lot of these people who are many decades older than them.

They're more aware because they're on X, they're on these other social platforms and they're not getting their, their news from traditional sources.

And so I, I do see some, you know, good coming out of the, the, the technology and such, but it is very alarming to me Makia the direction of things.

And I guess to kind of wrap this up on a positive note, or I guess a further question, do you, do you see any good or in, in people in, in positions of power?

Or do you see it as all just it it it's it's dark and that it's going to have to be a grassroots level to, I guess, resolve this?

Well, I think it's very difficult to.

Become a leader.

At a high level and not be compromised by this because you're probably not going to even get a chance to be in that position unless you were compromised.

And if you do somehow reach that position and you're like of a of a pure character and soul, you're probably going to get corrupted pretty quickly.

I mean, JFK, John, John F Kennedy to me was the last great U.S.

President.

And it's been a long time.

You know, it's, it's 63 years now since he was killed.

And, you know, he had a high level of consciousness.

He actually wanted real peace, not as he said in his famous speech, not Pax Americana, not peace at the point of an American gun, but real peace where people lived in a, in a harmonious symbiotic state, a win win state.

And and he he, he pursued that.

Other presidents don't really pursue that.

You know, it's, it's, it's difficult.

So I mean, I, I think one of the, one of the things that we're going to go through as we awaken is realizing that we don't need government.

Government is overall a very negative force for humanity.

It's very easy for the satanic cult to entrap the leaders who probably are blackmail and just overtake it and use it for their own ends.

And government in and of itself is, is all about control really.

And, and so I think part of part of the way that we're going to get out of this mess is we're going to start to take more responsibility.

The more people that do that become more self aware and more self responsible, it automatically reduces the need for an outside authority to even exist or to tell them what to do.

Because if you have self self aware people living in community and society with each other, they're going to find ways to interact and get along and resolve disputes and not need courts or governments or police as much to, to do that.

They're, they're just kind of, they're going to be out of like work it out and live harmoniously.

And so then there's going to be a reduction of the need for courts and government.

That's going to be a reduction of the need for rules.

Because common sense and, and basic human morality, which is inbuilt to us, will be dictating the interactions between people.

So we don't need all these laws.

We don't need courts, We don't need all of this stuff.

And so then the government's going to be like what, you know, I'm not really needed that.

That's going to be like a, a way that we get out of this.

I, I think that's, it has to be a rising consciousness.

That's, that's the solution to this.

It's not, it's not about revolution because we've had so many revolutions in history and the word revolution itself revolve.

It's all about a wheel turning and what happens, it comes back to the same place where it was.

So people go through all this effort, they riot, they kill, they go out in the streets, they depose a government, they install a new government, and what happens six months later, a couple years later, they're in the exact same place.

We just have different names on the leaders.

But it's the same system, it's the same corruption, it's the same rule of slave dynamic.

It's, it's, it happens.

It's happened in every country throughout human history over and over and over again because the level of human consciousness hasn't changed.

So we're not going to get a different result by putting in different people.

It's only going to happen if we change our consciousness, if we change the need for government, if we change the way that we interact with each other, our awareness of all these ways we're being assaulted and attacked by the satanic cult, by the synthetic agenda.

Once that changes, then the outside world is going to change.

So yeah, we we need to withdraw our belief in government that some savior figure, whether it's a politician or a religious figure, is going to come and help us and save us and rescue us.

We need to step up to the plate and become more self aware and rescue ourselves.

We don't need a savior, myself included.

I don't want to be a savior.

I don't want anyone to need a savior.

I want people to be their own hero and their own guru.

And I, I think politicians for, for there, there are some good ones, but so many of them have just become like parasites that live on borrowed power.

You know, they, they get up there and they say good words and they say, oh, I'm going to represent you.

But then as soon as they get into power, they just use it for their own ends, you know, to enrich themselves and their bodies and their cronies.

And, you know, the majority of them are like that.

And the good ones tend to get corrupted or if they try to stay in power too long, then they get impeached or deposed or assassinated.

So the whole system clearly doesn't work.

It's, it's obviously, to my eyes, is so clearly a dysfunctional system, whether it's a democracy or a public or this or that.

It doesn't.

That's just window dressing.

Like we, we need systems where we're not outsourcing our authority and we're getting people to represent us who don't represent us.

Like we need a whole new way of looking at it.

Would you say you're a like?

A libertarian or an anarcho?

Capitalist, what would you, I mean, if you care to share your your take on things.

Yeah, yeah, I'm a libertarian.

Or, you know, there's a term.

Voluntariest.

I believe human interaction should be voluntary.

It should be with consent of both parties every interaction.

So I don't.

I don't see the need for all these rules in society.

I understand there are difficult situations where you have crime, where you have like murder and rape and stuff.

Of course I don't condone that.

But I would like people to explore ways where they could live in community, in society where there's way less rules.

And how do, how can we, like all take responsibility so we don't need mayors and politicians and courts and police forces to resolve disputes and to get along?

Like can we, can we find ways, you know, to resolve this in other ways and on a voluntary basis?

And, and there are people better than me who have gone deep into these issues and questions and they're presented models of like, here's how courts would work if they were maybe run privately.

Here's how police forces could be run privately.

And in a libertarian system, there are people that have put thought into this and presented models.

I don't have all the answers, but this is the direction we need to be moving.

We need to be thinking about this, trialing these kind of things, seeing what works, because this idea of having centralized authority that can just then get hijacked by a satanic cult has gotten us into so much trouble.

Absolutely.

And then?

I guess I know I mean asking you all these questions here, but I figured what the hell I have you on.

I have you on right now.

Sometimes I ask you some, unless you got to run, you could could, could could you share your, your, your, your, your, your spiritual beliefs and and it kind of what you've what you've learned and then also how you got how you got red pill, so to speak, how you got exposed to all this.

Sean.

Yeah, I mean, I I started.

I've always been.

Curious, you know, and I was backpacking around the world in my 20s and I read a book by David Icke.

I just haven't happened to come across it on a beach in India.

And it totally blew my mind.

I mean, it was one of his earlier books.

And I remember reading it and just going, wow, like the world is nothing, nothing like I thought it was.

I've been brought up to think, you know, like there's a Pharmaceutical industry and it's working for the good of humanity.

And, and there's like politicians and, and I like all of this stuff.

And I, and I read what was really happening and I was like, wow.

And it, it just, it was one of those moments where it kind of woke me up and shook me out of my slumber.

And I realized I can't unlearn this now.

Like what I've just read in this book.

It's, it's going to stay with me.

And so a couple of years later, I ended up making a career out of this.

I've been at toolsforfreedom.com.

We're, we're a company that distributes information like this on DVDs and reports.

We sell natural health supplements.

And I write books and, and run my own website.

I mean, I've just been doing this full time for 18 years.

And I've, I've just always been curious ever since that point of like, OK, what's, what's really going on?

Like, how does the world really work?

Who really runs it?

And even after 18 years, I'm still finding stuff out, I'm still exploring, I'm still learning.

Like there's, there's so much to know about this.

So that's, that's how I got into it.

And you know, there, there, there being great true tellers that had come before me.

I, I think David Icke is, is one of the, the, the, the best.

But you know, there's guys like Bill Cooper.

I mean, he, he left an amazing body of research as well.

And amazingly enough, he predicted 911 before it happened in, in June 28th, 2001, he said, OK, these guys are going to be planning a false flag operation, a major operation.

They're going to blame it on bin Laden.

And sure enough, then 9/11 happened.

So, you know, I mean, there's been people that have been aware of this, that have, that have done radio broadcasts, written books or nauticals.

It's, it's been going on for a while.

So, you know, I, I, I've, I've just really enjoyed reading all of that and, and learning about it.

But spiritual beliefs, you know, I, I was brought up Catholic Christian like you were, and I, I kind of, I guess believed that for a while.

I, I, I questioned all at the same time, though, I questioned different things.

I, I, I gravitated towards Buddhism and meditation because that, that felt like, you know, it was, it was going to be like, like fulfilling for me.

And even today, like I've, I've, I still have a lot of, again, a lot of benefits from just taking the time out to still the mind and creating that separation between the thoughts going on in your head and, and becoming the observer or the witness or the watcher of your thoughts.

And that's, that's a key part of consciousness for me, because if we become too identified with our mind and our brain and our thoughts, we just get caught up in it and we get dragged around by the monkey mind.

And so having, having that Buddhist influence, it's not just like it's Buddhist.

I mean, of course there's lots of spiritualities and cultures all over the world that have talked about meditation or the idea of separating yourself from your thoughts, realizing you're not your thoughts.

That's, that's a key thing, but I would, I would describe myself as spiritual rather than religious.

I kind of realized that the heart of religion is, is spirituality.

The fact that we're a consciousness or a soul or a spirit having a human experience that's really at the core of it and trying to be in touch as much as possible with that soul and spirit and your life mission rather than whatever is going on in your mind.

The thoughts that come and go and often are just kind of anxious thoughts, depressed thoughts, negative thoughts that that aren't aren't really you.

So that's that's a big basis of my spirituality.

And you know that that also just ties in with what what what we've been talking about, because this, this non human force that's that's running things, I believe is also related to a concept that the Gnostics called the Arcons.

Are you familiar with those like the gin?

Right.

Yeah, the.

Jinn Yeah, yeah, these.

Basically evil spirits that.

Have hijacked humanity telepathically and psychically and kind of can input thoughts into people's head.

And so the less that we can identify with those thoughts and the more that we can be the observer and the watcher and be connecting with our soul and spirit that the more consciousness we can have.

So to me, it's, it's all, it's all part of the same thing like we, we each person has their own battle in this area to kind of to kind of do this to, to be themselves as much as possible and not get caught up in in false beliefs and false thinking does part of your.

Belief involve that we that I guess I think Aristotle said right, right that the soul leaves the body and then it returns.

Do do you do you subscribe to that as part of your beliefs?

I think there's a lot of evidence to reincarnation.

You know, I mean, I've, I've come across amazing stories in my research about reincarnation, you know, young children that have come out of their mothers and have been able to speak other languages fluently, you know, languages that maybe not even spoken anymore.

Or they're on the other side of the world and their parents have never visited that part of the world.

They don't have any books or relatives or anything from that part of the world.

And yet they come out and they're speaking some foreign language and some, some kids when they're asked about this, say, you know, where were you before you were born?

And they're like, well, I was, I was like a 10 year old kid living in this place.

And I have my own family and I one day I like was playing and I wondered far from my house and I I went, I dug in the earth or I went down this rabbit hole, like literally a rabbit hole in the earth.

And I went down and suddenly I was born a baby again from a new mother.

And they're like, what I mean, it sounds like some kids story that's made-up, but yet they have clear memory of some other life and they're speaking the language of that other life and they describe everything that was just happening in that life.

Like it's bizarre, you know, but there are thousands and thousands of stories like this, not to mention all the near death experiences of people that are go to the, the point at which, you know, and they're told by some, you know, that they're doing a life review.

They can look down on their body on the hospital bed or whatever.

They're seeing everything.

They they look back at their life and then there's some voice tells them, if you go beyond this, you're not going to be able to return.

But at this point, you can still return and they return and they tell about what they experienced, you know, So I definitely feel, you know, and, and, and also another, another point of evidence with this is the research that people have done without a body experiences and how you can actually separate your consciousness from your body.

There's lucid dreaming, you know, shamanic practices where you can actually go out of your body and do things and then return.

So I definitely feel like we are a soul or a spirit that's inhabiting a body and that we can separate from it.

If we go too far away from it, we'll die.

But, but there, there can be some separation we can do and then come back.

And you know, for me, that's just shows that we're, we are, we are a model.

This, this false promise of transhumanism, Like, hey, you can upload your consciousness to the cloud and you can fill your body with synthetic silicone or metal parts and you can live forever.

It's, it's just a fake version of, of immortality.

When we already are a model, we already have a spirit or a soul.

This human experience we're having is just a brief part of our overall soul journey, and we may not remember where we were before or where we're going, and we may not know where we're going.

But to me, yeah.

Like what a lot of spiritual traditions and philosophers like Plato have said about the soul being a model, to me, that feels true.

So I guess.

As far as this this universe?

That we're in, I know we kind of we're kind of deviating here, but this is I think interesting.

I think the audience will enjoy it.

But would you say that there is a, there is a creator, that there's an intelligence behind creating all that?

Is that fair to say?

I mean, if you made that hard, you know, I mean, this, this world, it's.

Just it's an incredible world and everywhere I look there's signs of intelligent design.

You know, I mean, even just little things.

When you look at, say, the seasons and how a lot of people in winter get a cold or a flu, well, what does that come from?

Probably, probably quite a few things, but I would say an obvious point is the lack of sunshine because you're just getting less sun in that time of the year no matter what.

OK, so what's sunshine responsible for vitamin D?

And it's kind of shown that when you get colds and flus, vitamin C&D are two of the best things that can cure that and get you back to a state of health.

So is it just a coincidence that citrus fruits like lemons, oranges, grapefruit all grow in the winter and are rich in vitamin C right when we need them during the winter to boost our immune system?

I mean, that's just like a silly little example, but it's like when I see like the magic with which this world is constructed and all the ways that things, things kind of balance and we have the seasons, the balance and the balance in the human body and the symbiosis between humans and the rest of the world.

I mean, it's, it's an incredible, an absolutely amazing system.

And we don't even understand like 1% of it.

You know, it's an incredible, it's an incredible world.

It's an incredible planet.

It's a credible system.

So obviously there's some kind of amazing intelligence that was able to create this and that humans are a macro, a microcosm of this microcosm too.

I I guess with that.

Being said, as far as there being some.

Intelligence being behind it, which is, which is what I subscribe to personally.

That that, that is that, that, that the, the Satanism part that we spoke about earlier, that that is the antithesis that that's another, that's just the polarity.

So if I'm hearing your take on it and then just kind of throwing it out there, my, my understanding of it.

And then that's kind of the, the conception of the universe.

Yes, but I don't I, I, I think it's fair to call it an antithesis.

Or antithesis.

But I also, I don't think it's fair to kind of set it up like it's an equal antithesis.

Because if, if there is some universal source creator of this whole universe, then these satanic elements and these non human forces to me, like they can't possibly be equal to that.

To me, they're like, they're, they're basically something, you know, like the Bible talks about fallen angels.

Different, different traditions talk about different things to me.

You know, one way of looking at this is perhaps there is a spark of divinity in every single life form, including whatever life forms are pushing the satanic agenda.

But they're, they're unaware of their own divinity.

They're cut off.

So they, they have to go into more like a parasite mode, like a desperate mode of like, I have to control and like exploit and take energy from other things to, to survive and to feel happy.

Like I've, that's, I've just got to go into this mode where I have to like, control, suck off energy, siphon off energy, kill, destroy, you know, for my own benefit because they're, they're unaware of their own divinity, their own spark of life, their own power source.

You know, that's, that's one way of looking at it.

But another way of looking at it is that the Gnostics teach that when the world was created, these beings called the icons were accidentally created in, in, in the creation of of Gaia, the earth.

And they talk about how these icons actually are inorganic beings that don't have any creative force.

Or will they?

All they can really do is basically copy and manipulate and imitate.

And they're very, very good at that.

But they can't actually create.

And so beings that can create are inherently superior than beings that can only like copy or imitate.

And so, you know, according to that kind of Gnostic mindset, do the icons have spark of divinity in them?

I don't know.

I mean, they're alive to some degree, but they're not, they don't have the same maybe level of consciousness, level of divinity, level of creative ability that humans have.

I don't know.

It's, it's an interesting question.

It's a philosophical question.

Yeah.

That's, I mean, there's lots of ways to look at it.

Absolutely, Makia I.

I I really enjoyed.

Our conversation, I thought we, we covered a lot of topics and my hope is that for, for people tuning in, I guess, especially people who are, who are, are not familiar with what we've discussed.

I hope it, it arouses some, some interest and I think it, I think it's important, even though I talk about finance on on my on my channel, I don't know how much you, you've, you've checked it out, but you know, talk about finance, you know, personal sovereignty building well, but also I talk about the, the cabal and societies.

I feel like it's so important because it's like, if you want to understand why things are the way they are, despite the Enlightenment and all these different called humanistic or fill in the blank things that have have have arised to to better humanity, advanced technology.

You, you you've got a group that to include the medical industry and many other facets are and and are are trying to control and and reduce our our ability to to progress.

So thank you.

Thank you for your time.

How can people learn more about you and get in touch with you?

OK, the best way is through my website which is the freedom articles dot.

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So there's still a lot of articles up there that are, that are from, you know, pre COVID time.

There's a lot of articles during the COVID scandemic that I was working hard to expose.

But I have 5 books.

You mentioned a few of them, Break Your Chains, The International Satanic Network Exposed and The Cult of the Chosen Ones are the three most recent ones.

So you can go to my website and click on the banners and it'll take you to amazonorlulu.com where where you can buy those books.

A lot of them are available in different forms, print, ebook and audiobook.

So that's the best place to go.

Just just go to my website thefreedomarticles.com if you'd like following me on video.

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I appreciate you.

You you sharing?

That and I'll, and I'll just also add to the audience.

I, I, I have a copy of the cult of the chosen ones and I'm, I'm still working on it, but I, I'll, I'll just say that the fact that Amazon has treated you the way they have, I think is indicative that you're, that you're on the, on the pulse of truth and, and, and, and what's going on there.

So I encourage everyone to support Makia and thanks for doing what you do and, and putting yourself out there and, you know, be being the man in the arena.

Thanks for having me on.

It's been been a pleasure.

We covered a lot of topics today so but it'd be interesting to see how that lands with your audience.

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