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204: Watch Purchase Justifications, Zombies, and Rolex!

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Welcome to this Watch LIVE.

Hi, I'm Lydia Winters.

And I'm Boo Booey.

And today we're going to catch up on some topics.

We have a lot of little rattling around in those domes.

Well, OK, back when we used to have what you would call a daily podcast, then we never ran out of opportunities to talk about like watch things that we thought about.

It is It is weird to have all of these thoughts.

It's.

Like who do we talk to each other?

Every single morning.

OK, a few things we'll cover today as a little teaser, you know, zombie apocalypse update.

OK, Yeah, you can guess who's who's that is.

I like that it's an update.

It's an update and a Rolex event.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That we attended.

Yeah.

And using watches for motivation or motivation for watches.

Or motivational watches.

Oh, they're like, you can do it.

I believe in you.

Well, there are watches with cute little sayings on them.

I like them.

Like.

Or there's the it's late o'clock.

Or the ones that say, never mind, well, I realized we're a family friendly podcast.

You know, the ones that say yeah.

Yeah, you.

Know something about time?

Yeah, Yeah.

I thought you were gonna like, I forget who makes the watch that says like we're all going to die someday anyway.

Oh, that yeah.

I don't usually go just bleak.

Just.

Morbid.

No, OK.

OK, I'm going to start with my zombie apocalypse update now.

Just so that people know we are not a late breaking news show.

I don't know anything about impending zombie.

Apocalypse.

OK, OK, cool.

The update, yes, is on my thoughts about some of the most important things you have to think about when buying watches, which is which watch is for the zombie apocalypse.

The main thing that interests me is just that this is not a thought that ever crosses my mind in any way really.

Even right now.

It's going in and out just like, like if in one minute you were like, what were we talking about?

I would be like.

I'm not really sure.

OK, take zombies out of it.

I think it's more fun to talk about it because.

Same though it.

Feels less dire and realistic when you say zombie apocalypse, but just take any societal breakdown event yeah where there will be a sustained period of time with a lack of large infrastructure right for society.

I've been on record saying I'm not going to make it.

I'm going to go pretty early.

But I said that to someone as we were discussing this topic and he said you'll be the one that just lives forever.

And I'll be like, oh man.

Yeah.

So, OK.

But I like to talk about it through zombie apocalypse terms because we have so many reference points for what that will be like because of movies and TV shows, right.

And thinking about this, so we did an episode last year where we did talk about zombie.

Apocalypse, do you remember what you said?

I don't oh, I should have looked that up, but I feel confident that I had said something about I.

Don't know why I asked that, because I shouldn't.

I feel confident.

I probably said something like a Rolex on a bracelet.

Interesting.

OK, OK, so that's that I, I think that's the biggest change is moving away from that, but OK.

So thinking through like some of the media around this, right?

You have shows like The Walking Dead, which did like I yeah, how many seasons over 10 seasons or maybe 10 seasons, Something a little too long.

It lasted a little too long, but Rick Grimes wore this Kenneth Cole watch, right?

This is over a decade ago, right?

15 plus years ago.

And so like right in the beginning of the series, there were watches, but it was it was in a different time, right?

There was no Tag Hoyer sponsorship at the time.

That.

Was that was happening there were watch sponsorships because there was already the Bond franchise and all of that stuff going on, but I don't know if it was as widespread as today.

And like Morgan, who's a character who also it was in one of the spin offs of of Walking Dead was wearing an IWC, right.

So there were some watches in there and The Last of Us, which is like the the modern day reference for these shows, Joel wears a watch that doesn't exist.

It was just built and and it comes from the game where also they had just created this watch.

It's not based on any individual model and it's not a brand tie in.

However, since then there have been real watches in the show.

I should say real, real life watches, right?

Like Tommy, his brother, wears a Mortimer Data matic from like the 70s.

And then more recently, people noticed that Jesse, one of the characters, the newer characters from the second season, he's wearing a Seiko 5.

It's kind of cool.

Right.

And then Abby is wearing a Timex and it's solar where I'm like, oh.

That's a good plan.

That's a good plan.

You get those solar watches, right?

So OK so I've thought about this a lot because I think deep down I am a little bit of a prepper but I'm a lazy prepper who doesn't want to prep so mainly think about prepping.

You're like, you know what?

I love thinking about prepping.

That's the most you thing I've ever heard anyone listening to this podcast, who who knows Boo, Like even probably if you've listened to this podcast more than 5 episodes and you're like, I'm unsurprised by this planning to do it.

Well, OK, OK, deep down and somewhat of a prepper, OK, I would say the reason that this even popped up in my head again was because of our Portugal experience.

And I'm not going to call that like an apocalyptic experience.

No, no, no.

Even though if you read some of the accounts online for some of the vacationers, they, they, they made it seem like the world had ended.

But I, it did make me think more about preparation.

And then that got me into thinking again about watches and what watch I would want.

And like, when I think about what I used to think, which was the most, what in my mind was the most robust watch possible.

So like, for example, it doesn't have to be this brand, but like a Rolex Explorer, it's like, OK, great, that can, you know, do all the things you've got to do right.

But I've changed my mind a little bit.

So for one thing, I would be a double wrister in the apocalypse.

You are a double wrister in current life.

I am.

I don't think that right.

Now I wear an Apple Watch on one side and in the apocalypse.

No, you got to get.

Rid of I'm not charging every day, right?

So on the yeah.

Probably not.

On the right wrist would be AG shock with tough solar.

I think that is what you originally said.

Yeah, I don't think this has changed, right, Because I do think having that like that is such a strong, dependable, great choice.

And as long as the radios with atomic clocks exist, you know, unless they actually, well, I guess they'd just lose power.

But anyway, let's.

Do yeah, it can sink for a while.

Right and the second watch, the one on the left wrist for me.

What was the bracelet watch?

But now I I really I I believe I own the watch that I would want for the zombie apocalypse and it is the tutor FXT.

Okay, why the change?

Okay.

Well, as I thought, I'm glad you asked.

So am I.

Okay, when I thought about dealing with a watch with a bracelet, there's a few things that comes to mind, right?

I see where that part's going.

Even just resizing so in an apocalyptic situation, you're probably not always going to have like, steady food, at least not in the beginning years, right?

She's not going to make it.

She's not, She's not.

She's gonna make it.

She likes comfort.

You belong in the White Lotus series instead of in The Walking Dead series.

OK, so even just like if you lose enough weight, you have to take out a little link.

Are you going to have a tiny screwdriver?

And then what are you going to keep that link with you?

You know, like you're running from your for your life from zombies?

So I'm like, you know what with the probably little, the likely weight fluctuations that you will go through, a bracelet's going to be a pain A.

Quick adjust just won't cut.

It no even T fit with all of that adjustment.

I don't think it's enough.

So I I so that is 1 and then repairability like if you break your bracelet right, that's going to be hard to.

So you don't see watchmakers as like the.

They, I don't think the first few years that they will be prioritized in society.

Look, I have I.

Love watch.

And I just want to say, watchmakers, I'm not throwing shade because Brand Consultant goes first, OK, They'll they'll need me later for the rebirth.

Podcasters, they absolutely go first.

They will be thrown to the zombies.

Just take me away.

OK, so if all of that is true, No, that is true, right.

So that that's the difficulty of a bracelet.

So then I was like, oh, OK, So then you just wouldn't you?

You can put things on NATO.

You can put things on Erica's original.

You put it.

There's all these fabric straps or leather straps and they are more repairable.

Even in the field, needle and thread, you can make repairs, right.

But the problem is spring bars.

They are point of failure.

That is true.

And they are not strong things.

And they're hard to find on the forest floor when you're changing it while waiting for the zombies.

I don't even know what happens.

I don't know how it works.

I also don't watch any of these shows so I'm.

Like, why not?

I'm not going to say the shows are all accurate about how it will work.

OK when the zombie.

Yeah.

But anyway, OK, we're getting lost in the zombies.

This is about watches.

OK, so then that's where fixed lugs, right?

Lug bars becomes like this is the golden watch, right?

Because you don't even need a strap.

OK, that's true.

You could.

Technically use a a a A.

You could tear a piece of fabric off of a rag off of your shirt and just like tie the watch on and it would work just fine.

I I'm not saying that's a good long term solution, but you could wear it like that until.

You find a zombie for longer.

That that that is wearing like a NATO strap or something.

You could take it off the zombie.

That gets bleak.

It also that means, you know that they were an enthusiast before.

You're like, we could have had such great discussions, but you got bit.

OK, so so the other thing is like it allows for more sizes because with spring bars, you can thread a NATO through spring bars, but if you undersize, it increases the likelihood that you'd put too much pressure on it and it would break.

But with the fixed bars, you could easily with 22 mil lug width, you could wear A20A21A22, an 18 even and it would work just fine.

So it just like gives you all of that versatility.

So I need to be like tutor.

I need a baby FXD because it will help me survive.

Yeah.

I wasn't going to survive, but now I'd like to.

With an FXD like cute little.

Baby FXD really cute.

I do think even if it it doesn't have to be like like because I.

Like a 37 again like the.

37 would be amazing.

So I have 236 millimetre timexes with fixed lugs.

It one is the Nigel K Born collab, the other is the engineered garments collab.

You've worn them.

They look great on you.

They look great on me.

Awesome size with fixed lugs.

Great, we need the baby FXD.

I will have to next time I see the designers, I'll get to be one of those people and be like, hey, can you make me a baby FXD?

Well, OK, so.

I'd like it to be called Bebe.

Bebe FXD so with these two watches, I feel like you could survive long enough.

Obviously you need other things as well, right?

But if you survive and you have these two.

Watches not going to make it you.

Could survive long enough to wear like watch making my maybe either it's safe enough where I could just learn watchmaking myself and then I could maintain the watches.

You know, swap out the battery eventually The G shock battery isn't going to hold the charge very well anymore.

1520 years in right I then.

Nope, not for me.

Or, you know, there will be watchmakers because society will slowly rebuild itself, you know, so I, I feel like those 2 watches that, that you're pretty set, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah, that's, that's my, that's my, that's my plan.

I have some reflections on this and 0 idea of what I would bring because again.

Wait, I was hoping you'd have an idea.

No, absolutely not.

But here's my first reflection is that we've been listening to, we listen to a lot of watch podcasts and a lot of other podcasts that are longer form and typically in the first like 5 to 10 minutes, they're just chit chatting.

Meanwhile, on this watch live, you are in the zombie apocalypse

at 2

at 2:00, 2 minutes even before your like brain has woken up.

If it's the morning, you're like so zombie watch.

Oh yeah, maybe you know a.

Lot of podcasts do like chips.

But I, I think we have that, you know, the daily thing because you would be like, OK, and bye.

Here's the topic.

The the second reflection I have that is or, or just a, a funny anecdote about this is that we were recently, recently at a Rolex event, which was amazing.

We'll talk about it a little more in a little while.

But we told we were sitting with some people, they were asking like, oh, wait, why are, you know, why are you at this Rolex thing?

It's like, oh, because we're, you know, we shop a lot at Neimanzer and then also we have a podcast and photography, blah, blah.

And they're like, how could you even talk about watches that much?

Later on in the lunch, Vu goes into what probably was a similar 15 minute discussion of zombie apocalypse watches.

That was because I was still percolating.

And then I just said when, when, you know, he stopped.

And this is the podcast.

You did say that because they.

Really I was like and this is what, this is what it is.

I do think it was funny that they thought like, how could you even have a watch podcast before we even said, oh, we did it daily for 200 episodes, that that's at another level.

They just don't know the amount of things you think about daily.

These are important topics.

I want to be ready.

OK, I have them thinking actually about, well, because you were inspired by watching The Last of Us.

That's got you back into thinking about this.

And I've been thinking about recently it was announced that the, you know, the new Star Wars slate of movies that Sean Levy is directing a movie called Star Wars Star Fighter, and it's starring.

I haven't heard of this.

Star Wars Stars Star Wars star fight.

Heard of this one?

And it's starring Ryan Gosling, and Ryan Gosling is A tag wear ambassador.

He's great about wearing tags in movies.

Well, because the thing about Ryan Gosling is he is not on social media.

So they are paying so much for him to wear it when people see it.

And when do people see him in movies that.

Movies and red carpets, that's the only opportunities.

So I have this question.

There haven't been any Star Wars watches in in the movies that were branded in any way.

Yeah, my personal take is they should absolutely not do it, but.

You mean make like a Star Wars universe tag Hoyer?

No, yeah, like in the star that it would be in the movie.

And it would make sense in the movie, like it would be.

It would it would look like something from the Star Wars universe, yes, But it would be from Tag Hoyer.

Like even in Barbie?

Yeah.

Where Ken, Listen, he wasn't the good guy.

I just want to be clear.

You know, he discovered the patriarchy.

And he had three cool gold tags on.

So even for that, they were like, look, we've got it.

And then all the press.

He loved all the press.

He wore the pink tag Hoyer.

So I'm just super curious, how do they sort of get around it?

They've paid all this money for a brand sponsor like this brand ambassador who does this one thing, which is being movies.

And that is almost the only time other than at the premiere typically because he's not someone who's like going to all different things or like he really is like at premiere or award ceremony or during the movie.

And so I'm so curious.

So OK so there is already a template for this because Hamilton worked with the prop master from Dune Part 2.

Mm Hmm.

And they, I don't know what came first, but they worked with the prop master and there's a wrist worn device in Doom Part 2.

It's not like a regular watch.

So they this isn't like an interstellar where in the movie like Hamilton like put a Hamilton into the movie.

And they they did make it specifically for the movie, but it still was a a Hamilton watch.

This is not that because Hamilton doesn't exist on Iraq is in Dune, right.

And so, but they worked with the prop master to take that wrist worn device from the movie and make a Ventura that is inspired by it.

So it's it's a Dune like Hamilton watch, but it's not directly the prop from the movie.

So I could see how they could put on Ryan Gosling, a wrist worn device that looks like and feels like and and just like it's from the Star Wars universe.

And then Tag Hoyer could release a watch that relates to it.

But unlike Hamilton, TAG Hoyer doesn't do that kind of thing.

You know, like they don't have weird watches in that way, whereas like Hamilton has the Ventura, they've they've done more kind of like conceptual watches.

Tag Hoyer.

That would be strange for them maybe.

Yeah, it would be.

I mean, it would be very interesting because also like they're more in racing and even they're, yeah, they don't have anything that looks like it could live in the Star Wars universe.

So maybe the play is actually then to create a really awesome like Star Wars inspired tag, which I mean, they've done collaborations like Mario and different things, but it's still, I don't know, in my mind, it's like, what could you come up with that would be so cool?

It's like he wears something on his wrist, but maybe it's like painted over and so you can't see what you know like it serve it's more but if you think a look and a feel to it and then you do the reveal after.

Yeah, I mean if you.

Think watching Star Wars like.

But if you think about Star Wars and how everything is designed right, it's kind of like 80s future.

Tech, Yeah, right.

Yeah.

But watches do come obviously from wait, long time ago you had these tiny mechanics, right, that people were making by hand?

But somehow that doesn't really fit the Star Wars universe.

No, I mean, we've been watch.

We just finished Andor Season 2 and one of the times I was like, there's a thing on the wrist.

It wasn't a watch.

But it's still like you can't take the watch enthusiast out of the watching experience.

But I just think it's interesting.

It's interesting because this is a huge role for a huge franchise.

So it's like huge franchise plus huge star.

We're seeing that with like the F1 movie for IWC.

It's like, does Tag figure out some way to get in on like, what is Star Wars truly like?

A magical combination?

Yeah, in my.

You mean Ryan Gosling plus Star Wars?

Yeah, like, yes.

Plus and plus Sean leaving.

Like very good.

I, I, I'm in for it.

So that that's been rattling around.

OK, OK, that's a good topic.

I like it, I like it.

OK my topic #2.

Oh yeah.

Is about justifying watches or or OK, OK it's it's I was thinking about this as I was building up this idea in my head for why I needed a watch and you.

Are way more into this than I am that that like I'm only just now thinking about it because I'm kind of like, oh, I like it, I can get it, I buy it.

But I OK, I like to categorize things and I like for things to serve a specific.

What?

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I know.

Big, big, big, big.

Shocking.

Right, right.

So it's like, OK.

So you're like, I'm trying to do this.

So I.

There's a watch I want.

I don't know if I can get it OK right, but there's a watch I want.

It's the tutor Pilagos FXD Chrono, the cycling one in pink.

OK, so you could wear that during a zombie apocalypse that.

Could be my new my new, my new zombie.

One gas will be hard to come by.

Yeah, yeah.

Well also I could time things, but I mean the good thing about the FXD is it has anywhere.

OK.

No, we're done.

With I was not trained to get us back.

OK, no, so OK, Tudor recently announced.

I love You're always like, OK, OK, OK.

Listen to that.

Here we go.

Here.

Here it is.

Shooter recently announced so last year they released the Peligos FXD Chrono Cycling Edition.

Yeah, you thought it was.

I mean, we talked about it on the podcast.

It's super cool because it serves a purpose for a specific thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so they instead of a typical like layout where you have the tachymeter, most tachymeters on watches only go down to 60 per unit, right?

So like you could time 60 kilometers an hour up to like 360 kilometers an hour.

But most cyclists aren't riding 60 kilometers an hour or 60 mph, whatever their reference point is, right?

So this has along the rehab like 3 revolutions for the timing.

So it goes all the way down to 20 kilometers an hour, which then for a cyclist totally makes sense.

So anyway, the watch.

Is broken that speed.

You have absolutely broken 20 kilometers an hour, but so really cool watch.

It's got the fixed lugs.

It's in a carbon fiber case or they call it carbon composite case.

Like it's, it's a very cool watch, but the all the accent colours are red, which makes sense because the Tudor cycling team colours are black and red.

So it makes sense that the watch would be black and red.

However, right away, because this was right after they released the pink chrono that I have right?

The tutor black bait chrono in pink.

I was like, they're going to do a pink version of this.

You did say I will wait.

I want a pink version.

Then they actually gave away 1A1 of 1 pink watch to the winner of the Guerre de Italia last year.

I believe it was the Guerrero.

Yeah, I think so.

Right?

And it was, but it is slightly different from the one that they've released now.

Well, it should be.

If it was a one of one, I'd be like I won this race.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Poker Car and and it had a fully pink strap.

Cool, cool.

And so, but he's sponsored by Richard Meal, so I don't he probably isn't wearing the tutor very much so he should just give it to me.

But anyway, OK.

OK.

That's just.

That's the point.

Give it to you.

Yeah, yeah.

OK, I'll buy it.

I'll buy it.

Oh, OK, OK.

But not above retail.

Retail.

There's a precedent now.

So the Giro de Italia is one of the more famous races, right?

Tour de France is probably the most famous race.

Giro.

I don't know, Second, third, who knows, right?

Because I I didn't poll our listeners to see.

OK to see if people had heard of.

It if people had heard of the Giro de Italia, but whoever's winning wears a pink jersey.

It's the maglia Rosa.

Right.

So.

Pink is kind of the color of.

This race, because the winner is wearing pink, so each.

Leg of the race.

It's, it's whoever is the overall winner because there's, there's many different types of winning in, in, in these big races because they happen over the course of many days and there's different types of winning.

There's points for things, there's climbing, there's sprinting.

So you can be, there's a bunch of different jerseys for these different things that you could be leading at any given time.

But the pink jersey is for the overall leader of the race and in the end the winner of the race.

Magalia Rosa, right?

So pink color of Guerra de Italia and they put it on this watch.

Amazing combo.

I think it looks even better than the red, even though I love red and black together, but this works very well.

And So what?

I've convinced myself.

OK.

But first I have a question.

Would you double wrist the pink?

You look pinky and this one like a pink pink like like.

My pink black Bay and this.

As like a weird I mean because they wouldn't cool in that case for each other.

I don't know, maybe I'll try it.

Yeah, on a bike on.

A bike?

Yeah, on a bike.

OK, so OK, in my mind what I have said, OK, so in my mind, what I thought, it's like if I get this watch right, then I'm going to train for the Veteran Runden, which is A-350, a 315 kilometre bike ride around Lake Veteran in Sweden.

It's like super famous bike ride, right?

But it's open tall.

Yeah.

And an important thing about this, because I asked this question when you talked about it a long time ago, you do do it in a day, you do the 315 kilometres.

I, I, I estimate that it will probably take me like 14 hours because, you know, breaks and all that kind of stuff.

And I, I did a half one.

So it was 160 kilometers.

Yikes.

But that was a decade ago.

I am in horrible shape compared to then.

So that was part of the motivation.

Like if I get this watch then I will start training again and then in June of next year because the race is in a few weeks.

OK, not going to make it for that one.

So.

June of next.

We're probably not going to make it June of next year.

I will be ready to ride this ride.

Right?

OK.

So number one, I become healthy.

OK, so the watch, that's great.

Again, the watch equals do the race equals become healthy.

So the watch has made me healthy.

So that's one thing that the watch has already done.

Got it.

The one Wait, just for everyone keeping track here, that's the watch VU does not have.

That's what it's already done.

Well, it's already done it in the future.

You're already healthy.

In the future, I'm already healthy because I got this watch right?

And then I probably need to get a new bike.

Yeah, obviously, because you have to.

Kind of.

To watch, you have to start over with everything well.

There's a a bike that I've wanted for a couple years now and it does have pink in the color screen anyway.

So this is like a multi layered and leveled scheme of things you need to buy, negative things you need to buy.

Himself negative.

This is a very positive thing.

Don't forget I'm super healthy.

Yeah.

OK.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Now in the future.

Yeah.

Yeah.

OK, OK.

I like that part.

One of the biggest things that's kind of healthy, right?

And then I thought, you know, from day one of picking up the watch and then going and doing all my training.

And of course now I'll have like this one, I will measure out one exact kilometer.

And so every time I go on a ride, I will do that kilometer and I'll time it on my little watch.

Right.

So content, content you know, but all content plan.

So but then I will create an entire documentary of me going

couch to 3

couch to 3:15 in a year wearing this watch.

So also now I'm a documentarian again.

Been a long time since I've shot cool videos, like shot myself.

So I'm healthy, I'm producing amazing creative content.

Yeah, I'm riding bikes, spend more time outdoors.

I have a cool new bike, right?

And everyone's like applauding when I ride it by because it's such a cool bike.

Yeah, right.

I love that watch too, bro.

Yeah.

Yeah, exactly.

Exactly.

It matches that cool bike.

I did look at because Tudor's cycling kit is actually they have one of.

The course you did, you're like, I just just very simple.

OK, So you're going to be tutor boy.

No, like instead of only boy.

No old, old, long, long term, long term listeners.

We'll know that when Boo was working at Oakley, Yeah, Even the people he worked with, his colleagues called him Oakley Boy because he wore so much.

Oakley I like to go all in on things.

I know that's a surprise.

Tutor boy, is what we're creating healthy?

Here's the thing.

I looked at the kit.

It's made by ASOS.

It's a really good kit.

It's basically they sell to regular folks like me, you know, future healthy people.

Yeah, like they'll sell you replica kit.

Cool.

It's made by the same company, probably not to the same spec, but like it looks the same.

And then I thought, that's too far.

You're just riding around Switzerland and you're like, hey.

I buy ABMC bicycle get resigning by.

Tutor HQ and you're like one day they're gonna accidentally put me in with the other racers in the truck.

Hey, come on.

Well.

After this year and then I go and you know when when tutor watches my documentary that I make about this journey.

When tutor.

Watches.

Watches.

Yeah, yeah.

They're gonna be like, you need to be on the cycling team.

Oh.

Clearly Ohk.

OK, what's the average age of the cycling team?

I'm not trying to be.

Just say less, less less than me, but you know as you age.

Cycling isn't like only a young person's sport.

Depends on the type of cycle so endurance sports are often one but you know these are the multi day non-stop.

Don't sleep, just ride like.

I'm not going to make it.

I feel like I should say that again.

I'm not going to make it.

It's just ultra endurance events are often one by people who aren't as young.

Okay, but things like sort of France?

Okay, so the actual the.

Yeah, I mean, I was thinking about how, yeah, you know, I think I watched the presentation last year that tutor did and they were, they they were children looking, you know, like they they're not, but they're like 20 twenties.

A lot of them are.

A lot of them are 20s.

That's a child.

But you're not gone in your 30s.

OK, OK.

But you might be gone when you're 48.

Like you're like, not gone in your 30s.

I may not be in my 30s anymore.

OK.

But so, you know, after this year, I'll probably look like I am.

OK.

Because I bought this watch.

OK.

There's only 300.

That's the thing.

OK, it's a limited edition.

You're like, I'd like to go for the hardest watch so that if I don't get it, none of this has to come true.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Because that's my question.

I can't just get healthy on my own, you know, You need motivation.

This is why it's a scheme.

But all of this got me thinking because I was in the midst of like dreaming all of these dreams of this incredible accomplishment that I've done, you know, in the future.

And it made me realize that maybe, just maybe, we go to great legs to justify by watches.

That's.

If you're like, you know what?

Maybe there is a chance that I do some mental gymnastics, which unfortunately doesn't make me healthier, to justify buying certain watches.

OK, there's this video that I love, and it really has inspired me to do a lot of things.

It's a very old video on YouTube by someone called Dave Frank.

Yeah.

And it's about this idea of brain crack and.

And becoming addicted to brain crack and.

Basically, you're addicted to these ideas in your head and then everyone will be applausing you.

Yes, yes, yes.

But you know, he said you don't do that, but the but the bummer is, you know, you need to do them and then you, you know, kind of do it poorly the first time, but then after a few times you have the experience.

So like how does that play into this scenario?

If I don't get the watch.

What happens?

Well then I'll just stay on the couch.

You can't go couch to 315K without a cycling chronograph on your wrist.

But what about the red 1?

Like you can't do it now.

I mean, The thing is.

You're like, what if you do that?

The idea for a year that they were going to release a pink one and they did.

So now what?

Am I going to go back to red?

Who do you think I am?

But I think the the end results are really good, so it would be super nice if you know you could keep the.

Yeah, we'll see how it goes.

We'll see how it goes.

Right now I'm motivated to try and get one of these watches.

I think this is your biggest justification scheme ever, that that's my, my gut, my gut feeling up.

I would love for it all to happen and we will report back one year.

Well, no, They'll see the documentary.

It'll probably be at the Cannes Film Film Festival or something.

Oh OK, the documentary would come out before you had to.

Do the.

Actual ride 'cause that feels dicey.

Part 2, Yeah.

To watch to watch Part 2 to find out, did he win?

I mean, it's not a competition.

It's not a race.

But did he win this, this ride?

Yeah.

Interesting, I think I've had things like this but never watches like and even when I think about like.

It's cameras.

Yeah, sure.

OK.

Actually, yeah.

Sure you've gone on.

This exact journey cameras.

Every time I buy a new camera, I'm like, now I'm going to shoot only photos with this for at least one calendar year.

Yeah, which isn't even long.

Every day.

Post every day.

You'll create a new Instagram account.

Yeah, exactly for those.

So then we have to think about how to keep you on track.

So Step 1 though you have.

To step one is announce it on your podcast.

Okay, before you even see if there before there's any possibility.

But now I have all these people.

Rooting for you are.

Rooting for me.

They're supporting everything I'm doing here.

No one who listens to this will be like, I disagree with this.

No, there's no way.

It's impossible.

OK, my last topic is that we went to the Rolex event we did in Stockholm with our AD Neimanser.

They are.

I thought it was just, it was super cool because they did it in this gorgeous, you know, Swedish Royal Opera House.

Which we had never been to somehow.

I mean, we've, we've seen it many.

Times how much opera have you?

Oh, do you use opera houses only for well, it's in the name.

Anyway, but one thing I was reflecting on 1st is like the setting was so beautiful.

We're in the Swedish Royal Opera House is from 1773.

RAD authorized dealer Neiman's ear is they started in 1851.

And then one of the watches that was being shown is the Rolex 19 O 8.

And I was like, Europe is wild.

I was just like, wow, this stuff is so old.

Also the ceilings in that place.

Yeah, it was just an absolutely, like, incredible setting.

There was an opera singer who did one, one song and two ballet dancers.

Just super beautiful and really cool and like, fun to see the watches in this very, like, grand, grand setting.

I had one goal and one goal only.

See The Land Dweller 36.

Yes.

OK, I did.

Know in white Rolazor, which is just steel, but now I guess we're calling it white Rolazor.

The bezel is white gold.

Yeah, I know, but.

It is technically 2 metals, yeah, and that's what roll the story.

Is I know.

So that's not wrong.

I'm not saying it's wrong, I'm just saying it's like a little long.

Winter.

Oh, so the centerlinks should be white gold as well in order to make this claim?

No, I don't know who.

I don't know who wants, who wants 'cause every song happens to stretch more.

I don't want that.

They are slightly different.

No, I know, I know.

OK, but any, Yeah.

So anyway, the white roll, OK, so I'm just saying it's not white.

Wanted to see the.

Whole thing, yes.

And and you did.

I did you.

Tried it on again, Yes.

Oh wait, you hadn't.

Tried had only tried on the 36 in gold.

In rose gold with tons of baguettes and just beautiful.

That was amazing.

Yeah, it was.

It was gorgeous.

10 out of 10.

Weirdly the 40 mil land dweller like the regular steel one also fits you very well.

Yeah, but definitely oversized, yeah.

Yeah.

The 36 was perfect.

It was perfect.

Yes, it looked.

Really good on you.

It looked so good.

It only reaffirmed my love for it and just interest in it.

An amazing thing is I sent my sister Mindy some photos of it and she said oh I love the land dweller.

Now my mind has been changed and this is the one who her original quote was like did Rolex release?

That PRX looking.

No, no.

A copy Royal Oak.

Oh, was it copy Royal Oak?

That was it.

No, my mom said it looks like the PRX on the cruise.

Hard to hard to know.

But the best part is Mindy says, Oh, my mind was changed because when I saw that watch on James's story, on Watch Puppy story, I sent she's like when I saw it on him.

It.

Changed so a true trendsetter yeah James he.

Is he is.

I then I asked Instagram, I did a poll and this is just to me funny and this is like being on the Internet.

So it's just this is my commentary on being on the Internet.

So I wrote like I posted the photo of me and the 36.

I said, should I go for it?

The choices were obviously.

The second choice, yes, for sure.

The third choice, you're such a Rolex fangirl, but also yes.

And the the 4th 1 is everyone knows would I did I count that in order 1234 anyway.

And the fourth one was everyone knows you won't be able to resist.

And mostly people wrote obviously all these different people.

And then one guy wrote to me and said if you have to ask.

And I was like, all the answers are yes.

It's just.

A joke?

Oh, he was like splaining at you.

Yeah, like if you have to ask.

If you have to ask.

And you know, you don't like it, but I was like, they're all the answers.

Like.

But I mean, maybe this is.

Something maybe he didn't read.

People.

Yeah.

But maybe this is something people don't always realize about my polls.

Is there?

Never really.

There's always the answer I want.

Very infrequent that you actually do polls where someone could choose yes or no.

Yeah, yeah, yeah 'cause I think it's more fun.

Really.

Yes, kind of yes.

Or of course.

Yes, or like you don't listen to me, you do what you want.

And that one's only for my mom, you know, like, sorry, sorry.

Yeah.

So that just made me laugh a lot because I was like, that's an extra answer.

I did not expect to.

If you have that.

But overall, all I saw from the results is everyone said yes, yes.

But 41% did say obviously, yes.

So that's.

That's pretty good.

That's I even though all of them were a yes like the majority of people went with the most yes.

Yeah.

Well, no.

And then 26% just said everyone knows you won't be able to resist.

So that's more of like you're going to do it.

That one feels a little bit like you're going to do it even if you shouldn't.

Yeah, but that's typically me with Rolex.

But I think it's beautiful.

The interesting thing about the Land Dweller, OK, people are still a bit complaining about the name, but overall I've seen a lot of shifts with the actual look of the watch and especially when people are seeing it in person now, then the feel or Mindy seeing it on James's watch.

Maybe people should just go and look at James's stories and they could all be converts.

And then you can change your mind.

But yeah, it's just I I really, really, I really loved it.

That was the one watch I wanted to see.

I looked at everything else but I that was what I paid most attention to other than one other special thing.

But what did you did you look at?

Like anything?

Did anything change your mind?

I didn't change my mind about anything, but I did like so as I said from the beginning, I love the land dweller, but that lack quick adjust is a kind of a killer for me, right?

And now that I'm very focused on zombie apocalypse watches.

As your next category.

Yeah, Zombie.

Apocalypse slash cycling.

Oh, OK.

Cool, if there only was a watch that could do.

Both there is perfect.

But no, not really changed my mind about anything.

I felt really like I I I tried a bunch of watches on again, very just felt really confident in the things I had already felt about them.

It was more reaffirming than anything else.

I love the new OP colors, especially the pistachio.

But we still did not get.

To see that blue 1 yet I know I.

Really want to see the new blue.

I think I'm going to love that.

Blue.

I think so too.

I.

See it in photos.

I I I love it.

But yeah, and the nineteen O 8 is I I love that watch on that bracelet.

You know, that one makes sense that it doesn't have a quick anyway.

OK, I want to.

Have to say no, let's.

Quick adjust.

Again, but I got to see something I didn't know I would love and because I didn't even know it would be there.

OK, so there were two watches at the event where they were like, oh, you can't photograph these.

Which obviously I was like, I love that.

I love that I can't.

Take a photo, but don't.

Yeah, there's just something cool and rolexy about it.

And like, look, I'm not above hype.

No, not being able to photograph it makes me want to look at it more, Yeah.

Yeah, I you you probably looked at that watch much longer than you would have if you got.

Short for sure, because I was like blinking my eyes and saying click click, you know, because that's the humor I have.

They've never heard that.

One, but I did it.

OK, so there was there were two of them.

1 is a Daytona that's called like a giraffe and it has like all of these like diamond setting and kind of a weird pattern.

Not that one.

I honestly probably if I looked at photos, I would have picked that one.

It's like, oh, I really want to see that.

But no, there was this gorgeous blue sapphire white gold, which you know, I never want white gold because I don't want to pay for it.

If you think it's steel.

Yeah, this one has gems.

OK, so it kind of makes it?

Amazingly, gem set so both around the middle case there's 54 diamonds around the bezel, 36 sapphires and then it was like a deep grey black like textured.

They were calling saying it looked like almost like Panther like a Panther skin or fur.

And then so that like as you looked at it kind of shift and played with the light, I also had the perfect shirt that had like a small amount of blue and it was a very like vibrant, beautiful blue that matched the sapphire.

And then there was blue on the subdials, the numbers on the subdials, which just looked so cool, blue sapphire indices.

And this brought me back to, I guess this is the one time I have this like, kind of like you, the thought rattling around in my brain, very opposite to yours.

Zombie apocalypse.

Watch those gems.

What if I sell it all and I just have one watch like this that no one thinks is real, but it is true because it's just it doesn't, you know, like I have a pretty casual style.

That's true.

I don't have like a lot of, you know, you and I like Japanese brands that are that like aren't well known.

Always logos.

Yeah, you don't see a lot of logos.

No, you don't know what anything costs.

Exactly.

And so then.

You would look like you're wearing a fake.

One, I would look like so then it like kind of takes a bit of the target off.

We don't even go fancy places.

No, we're very like, we're just casual and then no.

One down at the local pizza place would think it's.

Real.

I would get to have all of that money just on my wrist all the time just looking at it.

Just looking at your money.

And it was so beautiful.

It was, it was.

I will say that watch was gorgeous.

Yeah, look it up if you go.

You said you liked it more than rainbow Daytona.

I did.

I do think yes, because I think this one you could wear more.

Well, the rainbow Daytona is clearly more fun because of all the colors and all of that.

This was quite subdued.

But you wanted to just keep looking at it and in different lights, sometimes the dial looked more black, just like fully black.

And then you see, and the Daytona was still written in red.

Really.

OK, if you.

Did a good job of snapping this mental photo.

I don't remember anything about it.

No, but you can OK.

You can see there are some photos like Oracle time did OK.

People have photographed it.

Not not photographed it.

Most of the things are like.

Like an artist's render.

No, no, but like most of the things people have gotten like a cat, like the catalog shot, the online catalog shot that's off like it's.

Not catalog piece.

Because it's not on, it's not in the catalog for it's probably like, you know, some, some dealer somewhere, yeah.

Yeah, OK, OK.

OK.

And so if you look up Rolex off catalog blue sapphire, then you'll see some photos of but the photos do not do it justice.

So maybe that's why they didn't let us like you're not going to be able to, you're not going to make it nice.

No, no, it was, it was gorgeous.

The whole event was absolutely lovely.

It's always fun to go and you just like sit and talk about watches, see watches hang out with watch people.

If any of our table is listening, sorry you had to listen to booze the zombie thing again, but welcome to.

This watch, you know my thoughts were incomplete on that day.

OK, still formulating still.

Formulating Beep Boop.

OK, so we listen to a lot of podcasts or I listen to a lot of podcasts and if you're in the car, you will listen as well.

And then there are a few podcasts that you actually tell me to save so you can listen with me.

So I listen to a lot of podcasts, you listen to a few, but one of the things we've enjoyed in other people's podcasts is that at the end of the podcast they do recommendations.

And I do this when, you know, once a month.

I'm on the Form and Function podcast, which I love with James and Ken, and it's super fun.

And at the end they have a thing, they call it homework, which makes it sound not fun, but it is fun.

Yeah, we're not calling it that.

We're not calling it because I was a teacher.

I was a teacher though, so it could be called homework.

No, we're not stealing the form and function.

Homework.

How?

What if?

But what if we just call it?

Do it.

Do it.

Oh, we're calling it Do it.

Like, yeah, you're like go.

It's not quite the Nike.

What you're doing?

Yeah, yeah.

Just do it.

But yes, and also a recommendation of something that we like.

But also worn and wound does it.

And great NATO.

Great NATO does it podcast.

We really like listening.

To don't watch podcasts, do it.

Yes.

So today we will, yes.

OK, there's a show we both love, Yes, and it's only 4 episodes in.

The fourth episode came out this week.

And what?

Why don't you talk about it?

Because I think you may love this more than me, and that's weird.

It is weird, but it's OK, it's not that weird.

So The thing is, I don't love violent shows.

This show is violent.

Unless they're funny.

That's true.

You loved Peacemaker, and that is an incredibly.

Violent show if it, yeah, if it doesn't feel like it's just, you know.

You don't like violent serious shows?

Yeah.

Because then there it's too much.

This season of Andora was hard for me.

It was a, it was, I mean beautifully done, but it was a tough, a tough watch.

I prefer a little bit of levity with my killing.

So, so we started watching the Apple TV series called Murderbot.

And this was one, there's always this moment where Vu and I will like watch the trailer.

And he's like, do you want to watch this or not?

And this one, I immediately was like, yes.

Because I was in.

First of all, Alexander Skarsgard is amazing.

So good.

It's so good, it's so funny.

He has found, like, truly a level of like, the right character where his comedic timing could not be better.

Yeah, it's so perfect.

It's so perfect and it's just a really fun show.

Honestly, when we watched the latest episode it was like only it's only like 25 minutes and it felt like 4.

I was like.

No, it was OK.

It's not a long show, which is kind.

Of good too.

I like that part.

Super easy watch.

It's on Apple TV, so, you know, you have to be subscribed to Apple TV.

He is so good.

But the whole cast is great.

It's cast very well and essentially, like, no spoilers here, but it's about a robot who has kind of hacked it.

I mean, this is what you see in the trailer.

Hacked its own programming to give itself more freedom, but it's on this mission.

OK, but there you can stop there.

Just watch it.

I'm not a spoiler, I know.

So this is Murderbot.

It's so good, and although Murder Bot makes it like that, you feel like that's telling you what the show is about.

It's not really.

No, that's the part I like about it, because if you would know.

When you saw the title, you were like, and I was like, let's just watch the trailer because it's so good.

It it is really, really fun.

I also, I mean, I think Apple TV right now is some of my favorite shows because I've also loved the studio.

I watched all 10 episodes.

I thought it was great.

Your friends and neighbors you've been watching.

Yeah, that one I don't recommend though, I just watch it now.

I kind of.

Got.

I just got too far in, too far into it so.

I kind of want to know.

Early on that, yeah.

So that one I don't recommend, but the studio is awesome too.

Yeah, yeah.

And if you're into games, my favorite game that I've been waiting for like 10 years, yes, to come out, Fantasy Live is finally out, a new version on the Switch.

Because you played on 3DS over 10 years ago.

Yep.

And now it's out on Switch?

Yep, right before Switch 2 comes.

Bye, everyone.

I'm gone.

I'm gone for the next, I don't know, 300 hours of playtime.

Yeah, I guess.

Yeah, you're done.

Now you're.

Cooked, yeah.

You're in fantasy life.

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