Welcome to this watch LIFE.

Hi, I'm Lydia Winters.

And I'm Boo Boo, and this is episode 208 of this watch life.

Wow, we're saying this.

Watch life so many times.

Wait, did I always say?

Welcome to this watch life.

And they're like.

It's this way in case someone forgets.

In that, in that one second in.

Those.

I guess actually if you're if you're catering to people like you who are forgetful, I'm.

Quite forgetful.

Yeah.

Luckily people, I think with a podcast, the good thing is you usually like recognize people's voices.

So maybe that makes it easier.

Yeah.

So do you remember?

What are you listening?

To you're listening to this watch life.

Thanks for joining us today.

OK, so I've been thinking about something that's like not the most fun to talk about because it's been talked about so much.

I'm really starting strong here, but I think it's just so interesting and it's the new moon Swatch, another moon.

Swatch, is this the blue one?

Yes, and it's so the thing I find interesting is not really the the watch at this point.

If you like them, totally fine.

Very happy for you.

Yeah, but that we're three years in and, you know, they've been in a lull.

They did all those moonshine gold ones, weren't they?

Doing them once a month.

Once a month and it, you know, it just got to be kind of like a lot and it, it felt like at least in the watch world, people stopped paying as much attention.

I don't know how it was in like the real world where the people that aren't us live because we live in the real world too, but.

Barely.

Yeah, actually watch Nerds do not live in the real world, but I thought it was interesting, this one.

I love Tan Tan on, Hudinki said.

This time it's with a bit of everything.

It's got Snoopy, it's got a moon phase.

It's got.

I think it has.

Shine Earth Phase.

An Earth phase?

Yeah.

I don't.

I don't even know what an Earth phase is.

I don't know for sure, but if I had to get.

I thought it was just I think they call a moon phase.

No, the other one had.

It's the earth phase so my guess would be it's like once every 24 hours.

It's like.

Where is the sun pointing on the earth?

I'm just saying again, I don't know for sure.

I I didn't look it up when this was announced.

I saw I also think OK in response to what you're talking about here though.

Oh, it's the first.

It's because they were like, it's a first in watchmaking history to feature an Earth phase.

Because no one.

Wants that because.

No one knows what it means.

I mean isn't it just like a globe visualization of 24 hour time then or no?

I I don't know this is this is the time.

It's a construct that I don't understand.

Obviously this wasn't the point of, of why you brought this up, but to, to on to what you said a little bit.

I have thought about this because I think as enthusiasts, we love complaining about things.

And so I've seen many, many complaints about Moon Swatch over the years, from the beginning of it's a terrible idea and it will destroy Omega's brand and reputation.

I never thought that I would like to say.

I didn't either absolutely didn't through to just like the fatigue that everyone talked about of the especially when they had the moonshine ones monthly.

And now it's like, are we still doing this?

But I, I, I, I don't think in general that these are made for us.

Oh.

That we are.

You know how they talk about people being terminally online?

Yeah, yeah, we are terminally in watches.

Yeah, just All in all.

In US it's like oh fatigue, why am I hearing non-stop most people?

Didn't don't hear about it.

That don't have a dedicated watch.

Instagram where the only things that show up in their feed are watch things.

So every watch announcement shows up there.

Most people aren't listening to watch podcasts.

Hey, hey, that makes sense.

You special listener, you are.

You're not most people.

You're not most people.

You're unique.

OK, so the Earth phase indicator is, they say on the Swatch website, just as we observe the moon's phases from Earth, the Earth exhibits phases when viewed from the from the moon.

So this is like if you were on the moon, looking at the Earth and seeing the phases of it.

Oh, that's cool.

What's the?

20 because it basically the moon and the Earth take approximately 29.5 days to go through their phases, but in reverse order.

OK.

So yeah, it's a backwards moon phase.

The thing is, when it was announced I just thought, oh I'm not interested in this so I never looked.

At it but the the thing so I again the watch whatever, but they did add a new rubber strap that people have been liking and I think they did it for all the different models.

But the main thing I thought what was interesting is like this one had a one day release and there were lines again.

I believe it was only available for one day and there were lines again.

When's the last time there was?

I don't know but I thought.

3 lines.

Later, three years later.

That's interesting.

I mean when you do a one day release, but I think all of the moonshine have been one day releases.

Oh, I didn't know.

That yeah, because it is this like very time limited.

It's a special thing.

So you know what, I guess the moon Swatch is still swatching or the moon Swatch is still mooning.

I don't know what it's doing, but it's, you know, the train is still going.

I'm wondering when if you do a one day release like you must buy it this day in order to get this watch.

How many do you make?

How many do you make?

Yeah, I don't know.

And if there are extras at the end of the day, let's say, yeah there's line ups and they sell out at some stores, but maybe there stores.

Well, like the Stockholm, Stockholm has a new Swatch store and there was no line.

Oh, there was.

There was no line.

Maybe they didn't sell out, or maybe they had one, they predicted it well and didn't bring too many.

But like, what do you do with those plastic watches at the end of the day that supposedly are sold out, but you might have spares.

I guess you can.

I think we.

Know what they do and it's not good.

I think this leads down a path of non sustainability.

Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Yeah, it is.

Like you said, it is very interesting that three years later it's going strong enough to generate enough buzz that people line up.

Yes, that's the part where I was like, OK, that's, that's quite.

Because you have to be dialed.

In Snoopy on it.

So the Snoopy ones have been a little more popular, but.

You have to be the The thing is like, in some ways it's like, oh, these aren't really for watch enthusiasts.

But in other ways, it's like if you're not dialed in to what's going on in watches or at least signed up for swatches, you know, mailing list or you know, like a follower of their Instagram and happened to see it, then you're not going to know that it even exists.

So you have to be at least somewhat into watches to know about these limited ones.

Yeah, or these.

Yeah, like you said, it's more of a Swatch.

You're on the Swatch mailing list.

So you only need to be into swatches, not into.

Swatches, I think specifically because I wouldn't want to.

Be on the whole Swatch mailing.

There must be because you wouldn't want to just everyday swatches releasing a new thing.

You're like all of these.

I I think there probably is a I'm not going to sign up for it.

So I've I'm definitely not going to test out this.

If any of you know, please don't tell.

Us OK so a year and a half ago I had seen I think throughout December in 2023, December I think I had seen a bunch of people posting these collections of watches on Instagram and it was 5 watches and I think the hashtag was 5 watch collection.

We're very straightforward in the watch world.

I like it.

Hashtag 5 Watch collection.

And I believe it was started by Nacho Conda Conde and Morgan Saines.

Two lovely guys that we know.

Wonderful, lovely guys and I did a photo but I didn't do it till January.

I was a little bit late.

OK, I did one never.

So you were earlier than.

Me at the time, I took it as like, oh, what are the five watches I wore the most?

And so that's what I picked was these are those were my, for that photo, at least they were my 5 most worn watches.

The other day I saw that people are doing updates of it right now.

I think it's, it's like, you know, it's a watch community thing.

Yeah, to like start doing it.

People are doing it yearly.

So they did.

The 2024, I don't know why why we'd be doing it now, mid year, but sure.

I think this is the time that's been decided.

I think it was just that.

See, this is what I'm saying.

It's a community thing.

Some people.

Just do it Morgan and Nacho repo like started it, did a new one, Yeah.

So then people were like, OK, it's time.

It was I saw nachos and it made me think about this.

And so I brought it up to you and we talked about like, oh, how would we do this?

And then we thought, well, why not talk about that?

On the I brought it up to you.

No, I'm pretty sure.

No, I said we should do A5 watch collection because everyone's doing it.

OK, we don't need to fight about this.

Everyone knows that I'm right.

It doesn't matter either way, we decided.

OK, we.

Decided but OK, we have some parameters.

So it is the five watch collection.

It is based on watches we already own.

But the thought was, what if we had to narrow our collection down to just 5 watches and that's it.

That's your collection for the rest of your life.

So you don't get to just say, Oh yeah, OK, I'll get rid of these watches that go beyond these five, and then I'll just go buy new watches.

Good.

Because then the stakes aren't very high.

So we wanted the stakes to be high enough where you'd have to really think about what watches you would keep out of your current collection.

I think this is a good exercise.

My eyes are just going back and forth because as I hear Boo explain it, I'm like, I need to rethink everything on my list.

But it's it's fine.

OK, we've talked about this was a tough one.

Mm hmm.

We've done this kind of thought exercise before, but for some reason this time it was harder than.

Ever.

But we did.

We did make a couple rules #1 anything sentimental doesn't matter in this case.

So it's literally about the watch.

Not because then I would keep like the five watches that you gave me or that were.

And I would keep at least three watches.

OK, perfect.

Great.

I have to make room for watches I bought myself.

Good to.

Know.

Also, I have a disclaimer that I'd like to start with.

That's very important, and it's specifically for my sister Mindy.

No, none of my other watches are up for grabs.

This is merely an absurd hypothetical in order to feed a one hour podcast the minds of all of us who want to debate and discuss.

So I would just like to say that all of my watches are staying.

This is not this is not like everyone starts writing.

Hey, I'll take those other ones.

No, this is just.

That's fair.

Nothing's up for grabs, so.

No.

And we did one other thing, which is that we said we would before we say the watch, we would give like some loose category and then the other person could guess.

So like I Yeah.

Oh, I was gonna.

A list of yours?

Oh, someone didn't do it?

At all for what you would.

Just I have a list of the five.

I think yours are you without even hearing the hint of a collection of a category.

But now we'll have to go off of my memory of your collection.

Good luck anytime we say now we have to go off of your memory.

This is the guy who said this.

Watch Life literally after.

I said again, I didn't want people to have forgotten.

So the, what I noticed doing this going through this thought exercise is that I think these kinds of things, even if you're not doing it for a podcast, it could be really healthy because it forces you to look at your collection and think in terms of how much you value things and how much you care about them and how they fit.

Because the goal was like each watch that we have, there's a reason that we would keep it.

Like there's some sort of category, some sort of label or some sort of use case that it fits.

And so as you think through that, like, I could see how you could start understanding that there are watches that don't really fit what you think are your use cases for watches.

I'm not saying that happened to me.

No, I mean for me, I think The funny thing is sometimes I'm like I'm I don't need any watches and then 01.

I need one to two, two watch that like it would be super easy to have two.

And then I start doing this and I'm like, I need about 20 slots for all the very impressive thoughts that I have in each category and each brand I like because it was also very difficult because this five watch collection doesn't represent all the brands I love.

I thought that was one of the hardest things actually because then I would just go like, you know, 5 brands I love and slot in a watch.

Of each Yeah, that's actually where my brain started.

Like what are my five favorite brands and what is my favorite watch from each brand?

But then I realized I wasn't building a collection that was perfect for this thought.

For your everyday life or like your anything you want to do in future.

Life for the next I assume I'll live about a hundred more years or so.

Love that for us.

So for the next 100 ish years of my very long and fruitful life, I only get these 5 watches.

So I can't be like Oh well I just want to have these five brands.

It has to be like the watches themselves need to fit and I I don't know, I'm already changing my just this conversation.

I know this.

Is a problem change my mind right now.

Maybe that's because we're such a good pair that when we give each other thoughts, we really, it starts to, you know, stimulate the brain because we had to, we did this on our own so we could guess.

But actually probably we both have better ideas for each other.

So I guess at the end we can see if we'd switch any.

Let's let's let's try the first category and you name your first, like I'm saying category.

It doesn't have to be a category, but your first like bucket of where this watch fits.

And I will guess from the watches of yours that I can remember.

Perfect.

OK my first category I did it as the easiest so if you get this wrong.

You are No.

Oh no.

Already.

Really bad.

OK, I did it as an everyday watch.

OK, everyday watch.

Yeah, go anywhere, do anything.

Go anywhere, do anything.

Even though I love recently on morning wild and they talked about how most watches are go anywhere, do anything true or many that we, you know, kind of subcategory.

And I even looked up like how people would do A5 watch collection and one one website did it like a safari, like the big 5.

But it was daily chronograph, dressy GMT diver.

And I was like a GMT, a diver, A chronograph and a daily mostly.

Do this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, it depends on the chronic, but yeah.

This was I.

Can't and Zach, we're talking about this on the Warner on podcast.

I disagree from one perspective.

Is that specific use cases?

Yeah, of course.

But that's yeah.

But they were saying in general, many watches today can do what we need them to do daily.

Yes, yes.

OK so this is my everyday watch.

OK, your everyday watch.

I'm going to go with what should be very obvious, but maybe you've changed your mind.

The Tudor Black Bay 54.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

OK, you got the literal easiest one, the one that anyone should be able to guess.

OK, but the reasons I mean, this one was the easiest.

It was the first watch on my list where I was like, OK, a couple things.

I have it on the rubber bracelet.

I have it.

I have a on the rubber strap and a bracelet.

I can also wear it on just a regular strap like this is my most versatile watch.

It's under the radar but still I think it fits so nicely 37mm.

It's a dive watch so I can dive all the time like I do.

I do like to use the bezel to time like the most random things.

And so, yeah, this is, this was the easiest for me of like, OK, 100%, that's the one.

My question because the the reason I was hesitant to say this watch is that in general you have been more like I love my newest watches most and this watch now it's been wait, did it come out two years ago or three years ago?

2, I think anyway, two to three years ago.

That's a long time in in some ways, and I haven't seen your enthusiasm for this watch, Wayne much.

And that is surprising.

So I was wondering if as you thought through this, like did you realize like, oh, I don't love that watch as much anymore, but so why do you think it has persisted with you as your go anywhere do anything like the watch you keep always thinking about for that?

Because I think it fits my style so well.

I've talked about this before.

This watch is like, I call it like the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, which is for those of you who don't know a movie about this one pair of jeans and then four different women are able to wear it.

They have different body shapes and styles, but it magically fits them all.

Oh.

They are magic jeans.

I mean, yeah, in some there's some we're.

Just very stretchy.

Yeah, maybe that's it.

Yeah.

But The thing is, I've seen the BB54 on so many different wrists and it like almost always looks good.

It's very unisex.

But then I've seen people dress it up with full jewelry.

It looks awesome.

Different styles.

Yeah, this is just it.

Looks heritage, but it can look kind.

Of yeah, exactly.

And I think that's the tricky part because for me, I really wear a lot of heritage.

More heritage looking style fits perfectly, but if I wanted to dress it up it would also look nice for all the times I'm wearing dresses.

All those times.

Like once a year.

I think one of the tough things for some heritage style pieces right like this is that they don't often or they can often not work well in a sportswear context where like let's say you just want to wear a watch with a modern bikini or workout clothes.

Like modern bikini?

Yeah.

What does that mean?

I don't know, like, you know, like I was just thinking at the beach.

OK, just say at the beach.

I don't.

I literally can't think of what a modern bikini is.

I'm.

You know, like I.

Like just a bathing suit, A bathing.

That's what I meant for anyone.

Yeah, I wasn't thinking about any specific I oh, are bikinis only for women?

Typically many times but anyone can wear them but I maybe.

There's modern bikinis, the term bikini to just mean swimwear or through most of my life, so.

What?

Yeah.

No, I mean, I don't spend a lot of time at the beach.

That is true.

OK.

You're from Florida.

Yeah, this is.

Yeah, I have my terminology very clear.

OK, we've got an off track here.

I what I'm saying is a very heritage watch may not look right when you're dressing it very modern casual is what I kind of meant, right?

So let's say you're wearing, I don't know, athleisure.

Please stop naming clothes athleisure.

Athleisure is a real thing.

OK, fine.

If you're wearing like, you know, running shorts and you know, one of those dry T-shirts, I, I don't wear a lot of.

These things I actually just wanna do a podcast episode where you just try to describe clothes that you don't wear because I'm sure I teach like I I.

Think you mean the ones that work?

Yeah, You know, like I.

You're so sporty, I'm so Beachy.

I just I have trouble wearing synthetic fibers OK for.

Workouts so you don't stinky OK this.

Is Marino is this?

Is now too much information for everyone.

Let's move on.

Anyway, the main thing you are we're trying, I think if I could summarize whatever that was that just happened is you were trying to say that the BB 54 is very versatile.

You can wear it super casually.

That's one way to you can wear it from beach to boardroom to what was the other.

Another B.

Yeah, we had another one before.

Boardroom to.

I don't know, Bikini.

Back to the beach, OK?

Off the rails, your turn.

OK, so my first category I'm going to sync with yours.

Oh.

OK.

And I don't know if it's the easiest or hardest or anywhere in between.

However, I had one that was called an everyday slash style category.

Interesting, I had one for everyday but now when you say style then I change which one of the five I would pick.

OK.

Can I give you 2 and see if one OK everyday slash style?

I mean, when you're thinking about everyday style just kind of falls into that.

I know, but you added that word which means there's a reason.

So I have to like, think like you.

But all of my categories have two words.

Oh, wait.

OK, OK.

First I'm going to say the two and then I'll pick the one.

I would have said for every day that you would pick your Hoppering because I think it's very versatile.

It's a pilot's watch you, you know, you can do a lot in it.

But since you said style, I'm going to go with your tutor.

Tutor Chronograph Pink the not cycling version.

OK.

Oh yeah.

The the yeah, I don't the the regular yeah.

Pinky, there's the FXD and the black.

Yeah, I'm going to go with Pinky.

OK.

And Oh no.

I didn't really have a better sound.

You were right the first time.

It's because you added that word style.

It is, but it fits because I.

Do think it's stylish but I just no.

It's not about being stylish, it's about my style and my personal.

Style OK on an.

Everyday basis is very much like heritage menswear ish.

I'm going to give myself 1/2 point.

Oh wait, I didn't even know there were points.

Wait, what are we want?

Point Nothing that you get to keep your whole watch collection.

Yeah, I guess both of us get to.

Win that hold.

On OK, OK, never mind.

So OK, it is the hovering to Irwin pilot and I you know, I've brought this watch to do lots of fun things, right?

Like it was my one watch in Portugal and it just fit very well with who I like to think of myself as you know, it is an adventurous watch in a way, but it also is beautiful.

It has a very interesting complication with the jump seconds, also known as deadbeat seconds.

And yet that complication also makes it look like something it's not for the average person would probably think it's a quartz watch because it ticks in that way.

And I really think it just kind of looks the part in a way that fits my normal everyday style.

OK, then that is very similar to the BB54 for me.

If you're like one watch that really fits the style that you have.

Yeah, the.

Hovering.

The hovering absolutely does that best, but also it happens to be a strap monster as people like to call them and so I'm able to put.

Them I love to eat straps.

That would be what a strap monster does.

It would eat the straps.

I guess like.

Cookie Monster.

Not all.

Well, yeah, OK, Cookie Monster does eat all the cookies.

See, look, I I'm looking at what monsters do.

I don't think all monsters anyway.

No, I'm not getting into this debate about Strap Monster, but it is an A highly adaptable watch to many types of.

Could you wear it with a modern bikini, do you think?

I think I could with the right strap.

With the right strap.

OK, perfect.

I, I really think it's also a watch that for me and the way I think about it is up for anything.

It's a watch, you know, it is rated to 30 meters water resistance, but as hovering says, that means 30 meters.

It's kind of like with Patek and Omega.

They are now saying like, hey, whatever it's rated, that's what you can do.

Like if it says 30 meters, you can go dive underwater 30 meters.

And that's how I used it in Portugal.

We went swimming with it, we did all kinds of things, but at all times, I more than any other watch, that watch is the watch that makes me think I could just own this watch.

OK, 'cause I, that was you answered my question telepathically.

I asked it to you.

I guess probably it was more the the way you were talking kind of led me to the question, which also in your mind was where you were going with it, what I was going to say.

So this would be the one watch 'cause I would the BB54 for me would be if I, if I was like, OK, I could only have one.

I have talked about this before though I might pick something just like wild and cool like the like the Rolex Oyster Perpetual, like coral red something wild to be a signature.

But probably I would pick the BB 54.

Yeah, I we're not doing.

That OK, we're not doing that, not such.

That's another.

I'm not going to agree that that is OK.

What's your next category?

OK, my next category, I'm going to go with Dressy.

Dressy.

Yeah, OK.

Are you going to better define dressy or you're just going to leave it at like a?

Dress a dress.

Watch that you can.

Yeah.

And.

Wait, I need to remember that that we have cut out sentimentality.

Yes, there is no like, oh, you gave me this watch because if it was sentimental, your answer is always the Cartier tank solo, right.

And if we're cutting out sentimentality, though, then I don't think that would be your dress watch, But I'm not sure what would be then, because I think that you own watches that dress up very well.

And so you have also the Chopard, which is a dress watch and could fit that role very well.

But also your Royal Oak could fit that role very well.

Dressy in totally different ways, but they both fit.

I'm going to guess Chopard.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

Whoa, it's really.

Bad because I said I would get all of yours and now you're doing a good job.

So I don't feel as confident.

But yeah, I mean, I picked the Chopard skeleton because it's so unique.

So it was also when I was thinking about if I could only have these, is it something that I want to show a lot of people?

Because it's the me now, not the me before I was a watch nerd.

So I would want to have something that's like, oh, this is special.

This is interesting for other people to see too.

And so the Chopard skeleton, it's a watch I bought in Dresden when we were with Britt and James and it was the first time we were going to the Nomos Forum.

And it's this watch that just like immediately I loved and wanted.

It has the beautiful, you know, hand engraving.

So yes, you are.

You are correct again.

You don't have to be so disappointed.

I'm so sad.

So when you think of a dress watch like why this in or but maybe the Royal Oak will show up in a different category.

So I don't I shouldn't talk about.

Your but I could say the the Cartier, obviously I love it, but then so my I have a Cartier tank rose gold.

It's perfect.

It's beautiful, but it's more conventional people, more people have it.

And so that was something I tried to think about a little.

I I mean.

Because this is the rest of your.

Life, the rest of my life, it's like choosing who you're going to spend your life with.

Ohio my I'm.

Not I'm not so sure about that one.

OK.

So to me, that was what really made the decision when I looked at like different, like more core dress watches that I have, whether it's like the Vasharan Constantine Harmony, which is I was thinking like gold, something that's really like, you really could fully dress it up.

Even though I do think like most of my watches, you can dress up dressed down.

Like I don't dress up that much.

So it's fine.

But yeah, it ended up with just like this is more unique and interesting.

OK, I think that's fair.

Also, that show part is amazing and wonderful, and it's one of the very few times that you just saw something that you didn't already know something about.

Like you saw a watch and you were like, I want that.

Like you saw it in a window and just decided you wanted it.

You did give yourself overnight or no?

Or was it?

Yeah, I gave myself it.

Was overnight.

However, that in itself is actually still quite a short.

Time, that is for me.

Yeah, OK.

Well, I am not going to do dress watch.

OK, that doesn't surprise me actually.

I did not use that category at all.

Yeah, are you going to do a category called Cycling I?

Am not going to do a category called cycling OK no so I will pick my category that's called happy fun.

Happy fun, happy fun.

OK so then when I think of you I would say happy fun could be color, so it could be the chrono pink again.

I guess I still have on my list but it could also be the new future Orange would you are wearing today?

I am in the studio as they say, so I'm not sure if it's a hint or if it's trying to.

Throw you off the scent.

Yeah, yeah.

But then I also think that happy fun for you could be an Otsuka low tech.

Uh huh.

I'm trying to look deeply into booze eyes and get any hint, but there's nothing.

There's no he would really pass tests because I I see nothing.

OK, Hmm.

Yeah, I guess I am a mystery to you.

You don't know me at all.

I wish I knew all the categories because then I could kind of.

You do have 1 1/2 points out of a possible 2.

That's pretty good.

OK, so don't feel too bad if you don't get this one.

Happy fun.

What's your gut?

Say no, I only have a half point.

We only did one of yours so far.

OK, I'm going to say.

What was that about my memory?

I'm going to say the no most future orange.

Ding Ding Ding yay, now you have 1 1/2.

I was predicting the.

Future It's another special orange.

That was I just.

You set that up.

That was not my fault.

I don't know how to deal with that.

So yes, OK, I know it's my newest watch, but and, and so that probably does affect it a little bit, but it is one of my most, maybe my most compact watches, which makes it incredibly easy to wear and comfortable.

But also like as I thought through my collection and what I care about and what I like long term, color is a big part of that.

And this is the most cheerful color watch that I have.

Like it's future orange.

I mean it is basically like orange.

And in your old 5 watch collection, you did actually have your normals electric green, but it was bigger size.

And so you decided it wasn't, you know, perfect for you.

So now you have the perfect.

I have the I loved that watch, but it it did fit feel a little big for what I wanted that watch to be.

That year when I did my 5 watch collection it was about the five watches I had worn the most.

This one's a little bit different, but I really feel like this watch would just bring a smile to my face and make me feel happy whenever I wear it or when I'm already happy, I would choose to wear this watch to represent that.

So it just really is an easy watch to wear.

Yeah, I actually, I did not put an almost on my list, which feels so bad because it's one of my favorite brands.

So this is where.

But then I was like, if I had picked an almost world timer and I had it in my collection, then it would go in this spot.

So then it makes me like, oh, no, what have I done?

So yeah, that that felt, that felt that was one that was a lot harder when I thought of like, I don't think all the brands I picked represent me.

Yeah.

Because like, Chopard doesn't represent anything about me as a collector.

It's that one watch.

Exactly.

Yeah.

I can't give you any hints, but there are brands that absolutely are top five brands for me that didn't.

It's on this list.

Yeah, me too.

So that's yeah, I, it's not representative of my.

Because, OK, the other thing to think about is when you're doing an exercise like this, we are basing this off our existing collections as opposed to all watches that exist.

Yeah, because then I would add the normal world timer, then I'd have a hard time deciding which color.

But OK, my next category, my next category, I'm calling dress up, dress down.

Dress up, dress down.

What does that even mean?

That's that's nonsense.

Dress up, dress down.

Then it can be dressed up or dressed down.

Royal Oak.

That's like.

Oh really?

I really thought that would be it because you've always talked about how you can really like, wear that in almost any situation.

Now I'm thinking it must be Opie.

Oh no, you're taking too much joy in me getting this.

I do.

I really like making the sound.

It's hard to make it when I'm smiling and laughing so hard.

OK, I actually I I picked my creator locomotive because it's titanium.

OK.

It's a Genta design.

Uh huh.

But again, I went with this thought of it's not the conventional one like the Royal Oak is the more like.

My question is OK 'cause I'm going based on your category here.

Yeah.

What's dressed down with the locomotive for you?

That I could wear it with like my Jean Schwartz?

I don't think so, actually.

It's too pretty you.

Would not do that.

I don't think you would.

I meant I don't think you would.

You could.

Dress it up.

No, I don't think.

So you're very casual?

Stuff.

I'm sorry that anyone heard right now that I have Jean George.

But look, you can't take the.

Photo out of me.

Well, you left them in Florida.

They're not here in Sweden.

With us, I've missed them all summer.

Next week, you're mine.

OK, so I disagree.

So I feel like I should get half a point just because you lied.

We.

About this category.

You're like I should can't have a point because you're wrong.

These are my categories man.

I'm just saying you dress down, there's no version.

Of I meant more like dress regular and dress up.

Dress up, dress middle.

Normal and then higher.

I don't know.

OK, I do agree the category was a little wonky, but you know, take.

Half a point for that.

I I'm not even going to count points because I don't know.

But for me, it was really again back to like, it's a little more under the radar, quite a bit more under the radar than the Royal Oak for.

Sure.

It is more rare.

It's a 1 of 300 pieces.

It's when the you know it's the reissue of the original locomotive, so it's really trying to stay true to the core.

They've done interesting like non limited version since then, but this one really is like beautiful.

It's titanium, so it's so, so light and so even at 38mm it's like it where it's super comfortable and I think it has such a cool style.

So that is why I picked the creator locomotive.

Fair enough, I do think it's the kind of watch that deserves to be in A5 watch collection.

That that's how I felt.

Really cool.

It's really.

Cool.

Exactly.

It's really cool.

And again, I thought about if I was hanging out, meeting up with people that were into watches, would I have a few watches that I was like, oh, I could bring this or I could be well known for it.

That's not like the Tutor Rolexes that I would typically pick as just like oh this is a great watch I can easily wear.

I OK, I like the pick.

I don't like the category.

And.

That's that's fine.

That's fine, That's fine.

OK, so next I'm going to go with Adventure.

Oh, that's my single word category actually.

Oh, adventure.

Adventure and again, these are very personal categories and they, this collection is meant to accompany me on my next 100 years.

So it's and what does adventure mean to me?

Yeah, that would be helpful, you think?

Adventure means to me, you know.

No, you're, you're not.

Answering that for you tell.

Me what adventure means to you?

We dear listener.

The thing is, Lydia hits the word adventure for a lot of situations.

That are absolutely not.

Adventures say our adventures.

Sometimes if just everything is going wrong, it will just say adventure.

Yeah.

It's just, you know what?

A day, Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, but that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm talking about the typical use of adventure.

And we have been on many real world adventures.

What do you think would be the watch that I would choose for that category?

Knowing that again, as Zach and Cat talked about, most of these watches on my list could go on most of the adventures I ever go on.

But what watch would embody that for me?

OK, this is actually a watch that I didn't have on my list, but now I'm going to.

I think I'm going to add it, but I'm not.

So I could see you going for the cycling chronograph FXD, but I don't think that's full adventure like overall adventure.

Like if I if you're like walking around in the woods, I don't see, we live near the woods.

So this is a we live in the woods.

So you know, I don't see you like hiking in that one, But I'm also not really sure what I would see you hiking.

And so then I think about just your regular FXD, the MN 21.

Well, this.

Is but I could also imagine you then just picking like your Tudor Black Bay 58 because that is like full adventure.

So I I am kind of seeing the tutor of it.

Is that the correct brand?

I guess I'll say yes.

Good.

I kind of figured I'm going to go with.

I mean also the Chrono pink because it has the bracelet too.

So we're on the strap or the bracelet?

Yes, yes, which is good for adventure.

Adventure.

Yeah, here's that word again.

OK, I'm going to go with.

I'm going to stick with the things I have on my list and I'm going to go with the tutor Chrono Pink, not the cycling one.

OK, I'm going to go with the tutor FXD MN21.

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.

Ding Dang it, that was not on my list, but I that's correct.

OK, as I that watch is so erfect for so many things.

It is lightweight, it's comfortable, and out of all the watches I own, I think it's the only one that ties with the Explorer 2 in feeling.

And I'm talking about feelings now, we're not factual, like we're not testing this, none of that.

But it feels indestructible.

It feels like it.

It can endure anything that I can.

Well, I'm not indestructible, so it feels like it could endure way more than I can.

I mean you did like hurt your calf running from a wasp so I feel like the FXD could probably would stay on the wasp I.

Think better?

So OK, my FXD MN21, it's blue, but it's a very subtle blue in my like it's not a bold blue like my black babe.

I should have picked this one.

I was wrong.

It's a, it's a nice low key blue and even though it is a big watch at 42mm and it has a bezel with hashes all the way around it and so it has a lot of visual impact.

I actually think that watch is super low key because on a strap on your wrist, I don't think most people would give it a second glance.

So if I was going to adventure anywhere around the world, it's just a watch I could throw on and not have to think about and know or at least feel confident that it could handle any adventure.

And so that's that's pretty good.

OK, that is pretty good.

I also I realize as I look at my my picks, the categories get even more loosey goosey as we go.

So dress up dressed down was more firm now.

Dress up dressed down was not loosey goosey in comparison.

And I still have the fifth one.

I have like 4 watches I'm debating between.

Then I need to pick a category, still OK, But this category yeah OK is called perfect.

It's called perfect.

Yes.

OK, then, I know.

And then you have to just decide what that means to me, yeah.

I think because even earlier with your dress up, dress down, you know, I had guessed that OP could fit into that category.

I think it's an OP and I think that see, here's the thing you said perfect.

So to me, it's like, what is a watch?

I wouldn't change and you own 4 O PS This is the only watch that you own multiples of and the only thing that changes between those watches is the color on the dial.

And one of them is kind of like a special edition, right?

It's something different.

It's the celebration.

It's got all these bubbles, all these different colors on it, and then you own three of the colors that are on that celebration dial.

So I don't think it's the celebration because that one, instead of being perfect, I think is more fun, interesting, that kind of stuff.

I think it would be the turquoise.

Ding, Ding, Ding.

Yes.

I feel that.

I think I'm really good at this, but I'm not.

But also I did I did think perfect.

You would know that it was even though like, yeah, a white date just is also a great watch and there's like many.

But yeah, for me, for all the reasons you just said is how I got to the turquoise.

I think the OP is a perfect watch.

And then the turquoise is just.

It's a color that I think is so, so, so, so beautiful.

Yeah.

And it's better in person than it is in photographs.

And I just love it so much.

So yes, that's my.

Perfect.

The thing is, this one was a little easier because I also think that's a perfect watch.

It's not a watch I own.

I would own it if you didn't.

The turquoise because of all the OP colors.

I really think the turquoise is the best, or at least it's my favorite.

I think it just embodies the colorful OPS and does such a great job of looking good with things that you wouldn't think a turquoise watch would look good with.

It's much more versatile than the word turquoise would make it seem.

Yeah, because I still think it's more of like a Robin's egg.

It's a like a, it's not really turquoise and people calling it Tiffany.

Anyone who's listened to this podcast knows I'm highly against that.

But also, again, it's like in 36MM, it's just so beautiful, the color.

The bracelet's super comfortable.

You know and.

It's the easy link which makes.

It honestly the only thing that doesn't make it perfect is just that it's more desirable and people have historically wanted it so it became this hype watch.

But I hope over time it just gets to keep its perfection without so much baggage for it because it is such a wonderful watch.

I recently had two good friends get this watch.

I will not name either of them, but it was a a man and a woman in 36.

So it's like all three of us can wear this again because it just, it adds a pop of color, but it's still, and it's not a color I wear at all, but it still just works.

Yeah.

Yeah.

OK, You got it.

Good.

Don't be so disappointed.

This is a lovely thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It makes us good partners, OK?

It's funny because someone said on the Form and Function Podcast podcast, they talked about how you would be so competitive.

But The thing is, Voos not competitive.

I am competitive.

I had to like stop playing competitive things because I get a little more aggressive than I would prefer to be.

Yeah, which is occurring, right?

Now, and I see it, I see it in your face.

OK, next category for me, OK is interesting slash fun.

So yes, I know I had happy fun, and this one's interesting.

But this one is definitely an Otsuka low tech.

OK.

Is that true?

Yes, OK.

OK.

And so I thought about you have 3, so see you.

Do have?

Three see I'm a just because I have an OP which.

Is literally You've recently heard me talk about my 3.

Yes, I definitely listened.

Recommendations to one of my friends?

Yeah.

OK, I thought about the three.

I looked at them.

I had to look up the names because truly I never remember the names.

I'm kind of like the one with the the eyes, the one with the.

Jump hour or the.

Wandering hours OK, and I decided that you would pick the Otsuka Low tech #5 Kai.

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.

Now you see the competitive, the the.

Fierceness.

That she like she put through her fists in the air and it's like, yes.

And it's wow.

I feel like, you know, you don't win anything.

I feel like people are getting to know too much about us today, OK?

Otsuka Low tech #5 Kai and Kai in This means update like updated, updated version because there was a previous #5 this to me like I want.

I created this category for my own collection because I like having and wearing and looking at something that feels very different from everything else.

And this watch is different from all the other watches I own.

I mean less different from the other Otsuka Low techs, but even compared to those it's just visually different.

It is different from a watchmaking perspective.

O to me it's like another level of watchmaking.

The mechanics of watching how it works is both fascinating but also very easy to understand.

It has the smallest ball bearing in the world.

Like there's a bunch of things about this watch that make it so interesting that I could talk forever about it, but also I could look at it forever and also other people find it fascinating.

So like everyone gets to enjoy this watch and you don't see many of them out there and you probably never will.

Like I don't know what their future production plans will be, but this will probably, it'll never be a mass produced watch that there will be tons of.

So most likely when you know someone gets to see it, they either haven't seen it before, haven't held it before.

You know, most people have never heard of it before.

It's just such an interesting watch for other people and for me.

Yeah, it has such a cool.

It has such a cool look.

I think I was actually thinking about this is the one where if I was picking something from your collection, I would pick that watch.

Oh.

Wow because also I've seen it on watch Miss GMT and it looks so good on her.

That one just also fits me the best size wise.

Like it really wears so nicely.

But when I was thinking about your Otsugalotex, even though all three are different and distinct, I thought that this is the one.

Yeah, there was.

This was the first watch I chose on my list.

OK.

Can you do your last one?

Because I'm still in a bit of a.

OK, so we're going to reverse this last.

One this last one.

I think you'll get this one OK.

It is called Workout slash sport.

OK, perfect.

Finally.

And you know my, like I, you know that it used to be that I'd work out.

I don't do sport, I guess.

We heard we heard you describe sports clothes and we all know now I.

Don't do sports ball at least, but I, yeah, it was my FXDMN 21 and so that wouldn't be it here.

So what do you think?

So then I'm confident it's the tutor Cycling chronograph FXD, I think yes, De Italia, yes.

And it's also a special limited 1.

So it I feel like that also has to play a little bit into this.

It does, but the even it's a cycling part of it.

Chronograph.

It is my lightest larger watch.

I I was gonna say it's my lightest watch, but then I was like, I haven't weighed my 36 millimetre club campus.

It it even though, you know, it's a steel watch versus the carbon fiber it there is a chance that this watch it could be lighter.

I'll I'll have to weigh them, but it's my lightest bigger watch, right.

It's very comfortable on risk because of that lightness.

It is incredibly sporty looking.

It also has a chronograph and chronograph can be used in certain I guess sporting like for cycling, that kind of thing.

And then it has assigned benefit of being very apocalypse slash bug out ready.

So if I'm doing sport, you know, and sporty and then the apocalypse.

You're ready.

I'm good.

Yeah, perfect.

Ready.

I am ready.

Ready for what comes.

And, you know, I had talked about in a previous episode and you and Mindy thought it was very funny, but I had talked about like, what if I wanted to just adventure around the world?

All of a sudden I think in my mind what I was really thinking about was like that something has happened and I need to grab my.

That is not an adventure bag, no.

No, but this isn't the adventure one.

OK?

This is the workout sport, I guess.

Slash apocalypse slash bug out watch.

Yeah, that seems like it can do it all.

Topic it.

Can do it all.

But it's not a go anywhere to do anything.

To be clear, it's not.

It's a little too sporty.

The thing is that the reason that this couldn't take like the everyday for me is it doesn't actually fit my everyday style.

Like my just I'm dressing to go out like to be around other humans.

That's not the watch that fits that style well.

So how how are you doing on choosing?

I I have one and the topic is wild card.

Well, OK.

So OK, could be anything, I'm not going to guess.

Because I know.

It it's a wild card you couldn't choose between.

You said 5 choices.

I mean basically my whole collection is up for grabs now.

Are up for grabs in this case, not up for grabs.

Not that kind of up for grabs.

Up for picking?

I I'm not going to guess this one.

What is your wild card that rounds out your five watch collection and why she's still thinking she's like staring at.

Because I don't think it's like super correct.

This is where I got really.

You know, you don't have to actually do it.

Although the the the goal was yeah.

I got tripped up on this last one because I felt like I'll just talk through the process then since that's really all this is about anyway.

I was thinking about would I pick another OP to have a color then the color would be coral red.

It's really bright, it's fun, but I I don't think I need another color.

I would wear the perfect one, but then there's like very few colors, which that's kind of weird for my collection.

So I had like my no most super sardine.

I had the JLC Master Control, I had the Korano Tokyo star dial, and ultimately I decided if it was something cool that I could wear all the time, I would pick the JLC Master Control.

OK, because it has the soft bracelet, it's very thin.

It's different.

They say there's, you know.

Can I say Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding for myself?

Are you gonna say that?

I guess, yeah.

But you should have guessed.

You can't guess it in your head.

But the reason I was gonna guess it is.

Because it's the new one.

I know see this.

This is why like I am very susceptible to the new and it was hard to go through and remember.

I don't think you fell into that too much.

Yeah, but I really had to work at it.

And so I'm that's why I don't see it as like the perfect representation of my collection where I think yours is closer.

The two I I the one I thought that wasn't on there actually was the Chrono Pink.

Yeah, and that was my list.

And that was only because it's one of your watches that gets the most compliments.

It is.

And it's very fun.

Like people see it and they think it's cool and it's like.

I think when I thought about it, even though it absolutely fit the happy is.

So that was a big contender for the happy fun.

But it's so big.

And then all your watches would be big.

It it it didn't like the the club campus really fills that smaller compact role, but also three tutors.

Like if my collection is only 5 tutor boy, like I didn't want brand to be the reason I picked watches, but I thought it could be a reason I don't pick a watch.

That's true, because then it's just narrowing down.

I already have two tutors on the list.

I don't want to narrow it down to be like, OK, three spots out of five taken up by 1 brand.

No, that's true.

You picked two of the same brand.

I picked none of the same brand, which is more typical of me, but they're not my favorite brand.

So again, back to that I.

Mean yeah, the same with me.

I mean, Grand Seiko would be in my top five, right?

Like I guess I could.

Nobles would be in mine and like show hard and JLC would not be in the top five at all.

Credor wouldn't be so 3 of mine wouldn't be.

So I felt that was kind of tricky.

I guess the best thing is that I don't have to do this.

No, you do that in the end.

It's content, baby.

Yeah, it it we, we are not doing this.

This is just a thought exercise.

Did it give you any thoughts you've never thought?

No.

OK.

I don't think so.

I mean, maybe, but I as I went through it, I kept thinking there'd be some kind of epiphany because this is a hard exercise.

I will say it was so difficult, Yeah.

To make and I still am like I'm wrong.

Even I I will say even just coming up with five categories that I think encompass, you know, my watch wearing.

My 5 categories were very easy everyday perfect dressy wild card dress up dress.

I've never heard of perfect as a category.

But also The thing is I left out watches that I truly like the Royal Oak like that should be in there.

I.

Guessed it twice.

It should be, but it just, I was like, is it, you know, like, yeah.

But maybe it's.

Not but again, but again.

It's this is the end of the world.

No, no, no.

But again, it's more also thinking about like how things feel right in this moment and when watches aren't don't always feel as safe to wear watches, then it's harder to put the forever collection.

You know, something like the Royal Oak versus I could pick the locomotive and it's like more it's easy and I can wear it anywhere.

Again, glad I don't have to make these.

You don't have to make this decision, but the one thing I thought was maybe, even if it wasn't a total revelation for me, it was a little enlightening, was thinking about it.

Morris, these are the five watches, so you have to think of the collection.

You cannot only think of are these.

Yeah, I don't at all think of collection.

Anymore my five favorite watches.

But if they're all these are the.

Only these are not my five favorite.

No, again, it's back to because then I would have some some brands and some watches.

There would be a normal like, it would completely change.

This isn't so, this isn't reality.

So OK, let's go on to our final segment of the show today.

I have a the best recommendation OK and this actually so I realized I recommend a lot of television and technically part of my recommendation goes back to television, but that I find that to be you.

Can do whatever you want.

My good friend Owen told me he's going on vacation and he wanted to be offline as much as possible.

And so I asked are you bringing any books?

And he said he's going to read Foundation by Isaac Asimov.

I read that when I was very young.

I loved Isaac Asimov growing up.

Now there's a series on Ale TV called Foundation where part of the way through the current season.

I think 3 or 4 episodes are out right now.

I love the show and when it was first announced I really wanted to go back and read it.

But I have trouble if I have recently read a book.

When I watched the movie or the show or whatever, it never lives up to my imagination and what I want it to be and all of those things.

So I decided not to read it.

But now that I've watched this is I believe we're halfway through the third season and I I like it.

It's not a mind blowing amazing show, but I do think it's a good show.

So you're saying it's not the best?

No, but I'm saying the book.

The book.

And not just Foundation, but I think it's worth going back and reading books from when you were young.

That you loved.

When you loved, when you were young.

And that was my main thought of like, wait, I loved this book when I was growing up.

I'll read it now and see if I still love it because there are other books that I wonder like I when, you know, when I was a teenager, I read like Stephen King's The Gunslinger and the the whole Dark Tower series.

And I don't know if I would love them as much now, who I am now.

So it'll be interesting with Isaac Asimov, which is I think Foundation will be the first one.

Thanks, Owen.

OK, we didn't talk about this.

And mine actually goes a bit back-to-back in time too, because yesterday I got a little memory and it said that 17 years ago I was starting my first day as being an elementary school teacher, which is, is my, that was my what I got my degree in and I taught for one year.

And so I was going to say for the best is like changing up your life if you if you so wish.

Just one quick podcast recommendation.

Throw your whole life away?

No.

I'm just saying, you know that you can choose a different OK, so it sounds a little too big.

I meant it more like making decisions for your for yourself, even if they even if you feel like that sunk cost fallacy of like, I put a lot of time in, I put a lot of effort, but what I realized after.

Teaching as a teacher then you did prepping.

To yeah, exactly.

But at what point did I like if I had kept going when I didn't love it?

I think of all the people who would be robbed of this podcast.

Yes.

So you're welcome everyone for my.

I think that's a very great.

Recommendation.

It was just more of when you see it come up and I'm like, wow, 17 years ago I had a whole different life and I was just getting ready to start and be a teacher.

I taught 4th grade for one year.

And then, you know, deciding not to do that was a big and scary step.

But then it led to a lot of other deciding not to or or to deciding to do something which I think you know.

It was a pivotal.

A pivotal Yeah, it was a turning point.

Watch well.

No watch was.

A turning point moment A.

Turning point moment.

And with that, I plead to think it through if you're making major life decisions, I really.

But let us.

Know if you do, bye bye.