Hi, everyone, and welcome back to the Pod of the Damned.

I'm your host, Ian.

Joining me this week, as always, is my coach.

Candy, how are you?

I am good.

How are you?

I I'm good.

I've realized I was just like really hyped there in a little intro.

I was really like ramping up like my radio voice for this, like, you know, so I'm excited about this.

I'm really excited about this episode.

I know, I know you just kind of just before I hit record there, you kind of let out a little tidbit about how you feel about today's movie.

But I'm still really excited for this discussion.

And but anyways, I think it'll be good.

I think it'll be good too.

And he was joining us this week.

It's not Nico because he is a a horror convention, the lucky duck that he is meeting and getting Q&A's and pictures of all kinds of famous people in horror.

I'll need to get and descend into us because we'll get them posted up on our social media as well.

But it is a very, very, very, very, very good and old friend of the show.

He's been a guest on this show many, many times and very recently as well.

It is the wonderful Jeff Newman from the Movies for Days podcast.

Jeff.

Jeff, how the hell are you?

I called you Jess there just to change your name.

That's no worries that's my sister's name so you know I mean good company she's she's good people Jess, you'd like her I'm doing fabulous Thank you so much for having me back on this show got my 711 taquitos.

So I had a very nutritious breakfast and I'm sipping on some spiked sangria and I tell you, if it's not the high cholesterol and bad blood pressure making my heart palpitate, it might just be today's movie that's got me all of flutter.

Wow, that's it's funny you.

Say Big Gulp.

So I'm I'm really.

I have a bottle of Coca, I have a bottle of Coca-Cola and it's even worse.

And it's even worse because this is British Coca-Cola and there's like so much less sugar.

And that's then there used to be.

And but you talk all about love, You sweet.

We're talking today about a love film.

It's the middle of spooky season.

And we're talking all about a love film.

Because for those who didn't know, we're a horror podcast that deep dives into a different movie topic every single week in our quest to create a leaderboard of the best and worst horror movies of all time.

This is episode #153 and in today's show, we're talking all about Heart eyes.

This is a movie that came out this year.

It kind of went under the radar a little bit for me.

I'd heard lots and lots of really good things about this.

Like I kind of heard people a lot sort of raving about this across social media and I did sort of think to myself, I really need to check this out.

But it kind of just with like all the other releases that I really, really wanted to see this year, like weapons, like the long walk, like, you know, all that sort of stuff.

I wanted to see final destination and The Conjuring, even though that was a massive giant turd as expected.

And I I this one kind of slipped through the net for me.

So I was really excited when we kind of sort of decided that we were going to talk about this last minute.

And so I'm really, really looking forward to the discussion.

We'll very quickly just go through the housekeeping and then we'll we'll get straight into the movie topic.

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Hi, I'm Candy the final girl.

You can find me on Instagram at Candy the Final Girl, on Threads at Candy the Final Girl.

Blue Sky can't eat a final girl.

So basically it's pretty easy to find me.

Yeah, and Jeff and tell everyone, I'm sure our regular listeners are probably some of your regular listeners as well.

But for those who maybe haven't listened to Pod of the Damned or The Movies for Day's podcast before, why not tell our audience just a little bit about it?

Well, thank you so much, Ian.

I I am Newman the film rat and I do host and run the Movies 4 Days podcast.

I think of myself as the non pretentious easy access movie chat podcast where every Friday you can count on another deep dive from any film from any decade with anybody's guess as to just why the fuck we chose that movie that week.

I smoke a lot of weed and I don't like to do the same thing all the time.

So in addition to regular deep dives into just about any movie, you'll also find subseries on my show Rage for Cage, where we dive into two films from Nicolas Cage.

I Am Batman, where yeah, we talk about Batman movies, The new and fantastic Boldly Going Somewhere where we talk about Star Trek films on and on.

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I myself have guested there on, we talked all about Hatchet, which was a great episode.

And Candy, I know you've been on there a good couple of times as well.

So.

Yeah, we had a great episode about brain damage with me and Candy.

And yeah, you all are welcome back anytime, all the time.

It's always a wonderful chat when you get us together.

Yeah, we like, I know myself in particular, we have a very sort of off schedule like episode topic that I do need to reach back out to you for and that's that's very much my bad.

I will be get, I will get in touch with you about that and we will get that sorted because I do still want to talk about that movie.

Same here and dude really the doors always open, the feelings are not I'll.

Life is a bitch and sometimes it gets in the way of us being able to do the thing we wanted to do.

Nobody understands that more than me.

So you see, I keep that in mind.

That door is always open.

I can't wait to have you on for that discussion.

Thank you very very much.

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And it's today's show.

We're talking all about heart eyes.

You're just too good to be.

True.

Can't take my eyes off of you.

You'd be like Kevin.

For the past two years, a masked maniac known as the Hard Eyes Killer has stalked, haunted and brutally slaying couples on Valentine's Day.

With no motive yet uncovered.

This is more than just murder.

He's like Cupid with a kink.

We're being chased by a fucking serial killer.

Hey, you good?

Yeah, he's going to keep killing people.

We ended here.

Hey, come on.

Happy Valentine's Day.

Happy.

V Day.

Get killed, All right?

What was?

Why would he say that?

This movie was released in 2025, was directed by Josh Rubin and stars Olivia Holt, Mason Gooding and Jordana Brewster.

The IMDb plot is as follows.

When 2 Co workers have to survive the heart eyes killer on Valentine's Day, the two have to find out who it is.

That was a really basic premise for this movie.

I want to kind of just do because like, like I say, this is one that kind of like slipped me by and I want to kind of just give like a very, very brief, like overall first impression because I literally watched this and I know you you've only recently watched it for the first time too candidate.

I literally within the last sort of 18 hours of watch this for the first time and and the second time and honestly, I was really pleasantly surprised by what I saw.

I really had a good time with this.

This isn't a perfect movie by any stretch of the imagination, and we're certainly going to talk about some of the issues I have with this movie.

But honestly, for a Valentine themes movie, I kind of thought this was like one of those perfect like 31 days of horror October kind of movies where, you know, we're currently on like the 19th of October.

It's day 19 and you're like, what the fuck else am I going to watch?

And you're like, you know what, let's watch Heart eyes.

And I I think it kind of fits the remit for what this movie is trying to achieve kind of perfectly.

And like I say, we'll get into to to more specifics.

But yeah, I just had like a bit of a fun time with this.

And I think because I wasn't going into it trying to think about it too seriously, not trying to measure it too deep, I allowed myself to enjoy it and I think that made a huge difference.

I think, OK, now to to give a different point of view.

We know, and I've said this many, many times on my old show and many, many times on this show, because I've been on this show what, like almost two years?

God, has it been two years?

Pretty much, yeah.

Yeah, I guess it has.

But we know that I am the hugest love story person.

I I, I love love stories.

You know, I particularly am drawn to like gothic vampire stuff, you know, like, like just Draculate even like, you know, I've crossed oceans of times to find you and shit.

I'm like, oh swoon.

You know, I love love stories.

But what I don't like are ROM coms.

And this movie leaned a little bit too much into the ROM com for me.

And I'm watching this now.

And you're also gonna realize I'm married to my childhood sweetheart.

We've been together a long time, have several kids, you know, like I, I guess you could say I'm in love.

You know, I like, I like being in love.

But this was like a little too neat cutie.

This was a little too saccharine for me.

There were some cool kills, and I'm just giving a quick overview, but it's just like, it was so corny.

As Sean and I were watching it, we were looking at each other at the same point, going no, no.

But there was other things that I did.

I did appreciate about it, but I thought that it was a little too sappy.

OK, OK, Newman brief overview.

I think I'll find myself identifying a little more in Ian Your Lane on this one.

I didn't see this in theaters, but I was definitely aware of it.

The wife and I watched it.

I can't remember, maybe right after he came to streaming earlier this year.

And I remember being like, hey, you know what?

That's a fun horror comedy.

It really leans into its premise in a very serious way.

In the same way I think that Happy Death Day really leans hard into its premise.

I think this movie is doing the same thing, and I think it's succeeding in all of those ways.

So I found it very enjoyable and then re watching it the other night for this, I did not remember just how laugh out loud funny.

I found this movie.

I was screaming with laughter at a whole bunch of different parts.

And I think it could be just because while I don't really like ROM coms, I appreciate when they're well done.

And I really came of age in that 2000s era where they were just pumping those out like there was no tomorrow.

And they have such a recognizable list of tropes and and, you know, go to, you know, tactics.

And so the ways in which this movie Hard Eyes really knows what it is and is just banging on that the whole time.

And if you're not into it, fine.

I I kind of respect that because it knows what it's doing and it's doing that.

And I think it's succeeding throughout.

And you know, we'll get more into the details, but this movie's gooey.

This movie's wet.

It's and, and it's creative.

There's not as I don't think there's any 2 kills in this that are exactly the same.

And for a movie that's going to make me listen to the shing and the swing of a machete over and over again, I thought the sound design for this was really good.

Like this was some commendable squelchy horror comedy.

So yeah, for all those reasons, I really enjoyed it.

I think I think that's very much where it's actually very funny that you mentioned Happy Death Date because with the one of the writers of this movie, Christopher London also was one of the writers on Happy Death Day to you.

So it was also one of the writers of that franchise.

He was also one of the writers for Scout's Guide to the Zombie Apocalypse to Freaky and most of the paranormal, Paranormal activity franchise as well.

So, you know, he has he has some, some sort of some history with that kind of maybe not with Paranormal Activity, but with like Happy Death Day to you.

You know, he has some history with that kind of comedy as well.

So it's funny that you brought up Happy Death Day there because, you know, he's obviously been part of that franchise and, you know, I think this movie just understands what it is.

And I get what you're saying there, Candy, in terms of like, you know, you were looking, you and Sean were maybe looking at each other and being like roll eye rolling and being like, Oh my God.

Exactly what you're doing.

Like, oh.

Okay, but I think this movie was intentionally doing that.

I don't think this movie was trying to be I don't think this movie was actually trying to be overly romantic.

I think it's poking fun at it.

I think it's poking fun at those movies that is being overly romantic.

You know, there's that moment, isn't it, where our friend at the very end when you know, she needs to go after Jay and then she starts just naming like ROM com movie titles, doesn't say she's like it's crazy, stupid love and then does a pause and then there's actually.

And you can end up on Notting Hill.

And I'm like, OK.

And then Sean literally goes, is she just naming movies?

I said yes.

I thought that was funny.

It's like you're so clueless.

It's one of the 10 things I hate about you.

No, I fucking loved it.

Oh my God, I loved it.

Like everything.

She's even it.

Was the kind of humor where I grown instead of laughing, and that's not a good sign.

No, I really feel.

Humorous.

Like it's subjective, right?

Humorous.

Stuff like that.

It's subjective, right?

Yes, absolutely.

Yeah.

I genuinely was watching this thinking that it was going to be up your street, though currently I thought you might have just.

That is it.

That is my biggest problem is it sounds on paper like something I would love.

And I think that's why I was so disappointed in it when we don't really have enough of these types of horror.

Like I remember the year that My Bloody Valentine 3D came out and that was on Valentine's Day and I had to see it because this 3D eyeballs coming at you and stuff.

But we don't really have like a lot of horror that's kind of Valentine's Day themed or.

I think it's not even the just that it's Valentine's Day themed, but it's also Valentine's Day themed with this kind of comedy in it as well because we do have a few Valentine's themed horror movies out there.

Not a huge amount.

Super Saturated.

No.

Actor and so like I I guess it's just it wasn't what I expected.

I thought it was going to lean one more like maybe lean heavier into the gore or more into the love story.

That's kind of somewhere in between.

And like on paper that it just sounded like my kind of film, but it it just I I'm less of a ROM com and more of like a straight up romance person.

So I don't know Mason Mason Gooding, though, he's he's adorable and I I did in really enjoy his performance and I've always had a thing for Jordana Brewster.

She's still hot, so it was nice to see her and and in a villainous role.

So there were there were things that I did like about it.

I actually I thought this movie had like a killer cast, to be honest.

I really thought the cast of this movie and.

Yeah, yeah, so many people.

And, and with so much like horror history in there as well, like Jordan and Bruce, like say, obviously from like the faculty and TCM and things like that and Mason and the times of chance.

On massacre at the beginning.

Yeah.

And then you've got Mason Gooding, who's obviously probably most recently for the Scream and Scream 6.

Regardless of how you feel about those movies, they're they're massive successes.

And Mason Gooding I always find to just be pretty charming anyway.

He plays that really charming character because he plays like very much like the male Mandy that Randy Unique's role, doesn't he in the in the new Scream movies.

And he's he, I think he does a really good job at it.

I think he's really charming.

He's definitely not the issue with the new Scream movies and he's definitely not the issue here.

And he very much fits that sort of aesthetic that you're looking for here when you're looking for like a dashing person to come in and sweep your main character off her feet, you know?

The romantic, not her.

So I did kind of like that play.

Usually you, you know, in these types of films where it's, you know, love is the main topic.

It's the woman who is so idealistic about love and, and the guy who's like, oh, well, love is not that great or whatever.

So it was, it was cute, and he did it well.

So first we we got a shout out as well, Devin Sawa.

I mean, we want to talk about the horror royalty throughout this movie.

And you know, there that is.

And he's just hamming it up, not taking himself even an ounce seriously.

And it's beautiful.

And you know, when we talk about all of the ROM com tropes, like that's one right there.

You've got the girl who's way too about business and is so focused on job and success in business.

She doesn't she's not able to stop and smell the flowers.

And a romantic guy comes along and helps show her the way.

You got the two people who are in a job and they're supposed to be competing against each other, but oh, they kind of have feelings.

Like it just goes on and on with this.

Even he's going through his best friend's wedding and he might hook up with a bunch of bridesmaids.

Like it's the movie just is relentless in this way.

We even have a montage of dress shopping and with within the montage of dresses we've got shout outs to Clueless Kind.

Of making fun of it.

But I was like, are we seriously going to sit through a dress montage?

Yes, we are.

Oh, yeah, there's a there's going to be a chase down at the airport, you know.

Hey, don't go away.

I love you at the airport.

I don't.

It's everything.

I know the chase down at the airport really fucking irritated me because seems like this point in the movie, I was starting to get quite irritated with our main character, right?

Because, you know, after we have the initial fake ending where, you know, they think they've got the heart ice killer and, you know, technically they don't have one of the heart ice killers, you know, and she's like, oh, she rejects him.

She initially rejects him at that point.

And it's #1 it's like, are you fucking blind?

Like, it's at that point, it's like, it's really irritating that she's done that.

It's also late enough in the movie that I possibly think that could have just been the ending.

Like we get this whole like extra act at the very end, which is like the big reveal, of course, that, you know, Jordana Brewster and the IT guy or the tech guy is the big bad.

And I must say that ending, it felt very scream, didn't it?

With like the reviews.

This has sort of a screen vibe to it and it's not because of Mason Gooding, it's because of just the setup of it.

We have more than one killer, you know, And there's always some weird, fucked up, stupid reason.

And Speaking of stupid reasons, the fact that it's a kink for them.

I was like, shut the fuck up.

Really shut the fuck up.

It's a kink to kill together.

It was the dumbest thing.

I'm sorry.

It was so stupid.

I I just couldn't.

I do think.

Like it comes back to that first line when they're doing that first crime scene.

Everybody has a fetish.

I laughed so fucking hard, man.

And it's like, yeah, it comes back to that at.

That point that she's one of the the killers where she's in that like the wine press thing and she's, you know, picking up the hair and oh, it's definitely a kink.

And it's like, how did and I was thinking, how did she get that from just seeing this?

And then of course, later it makes sense.

And I'm like, you're fucking kidding me.

OK.

All right.

I also think like it has a Scream vibe as well, because I think this movie does try to be a little bit meta at points as well, doesn't it?

So it very much seems to go along.

Meta with the whole ROM com thing.

Yeah, 100%.

So I think there's definitely been like huge inspiration drawn from that franchise there as well.

So there is definitely that.

But what I was gonna say is so obviously you get that classic trope of, you know, she's gonna go chase her down at the airport and then she's on the phone to her friend.

She's like, he's gone, I've lost him.

And I'm just like, just fucking phone him.

All she has to do number is just fucking phone him.

It is 2025.

This isn't 2001 where, you know, mobile phones were for the rich and, you know, weighed about, you know, 20 kilos and all of that jazz.

This is 2025.

Just send him a text and be like, want to come over, You know, like it's all good.

Yeah, that that really irritates me.

Dramatic tension, you know, like in, in some people's minds, like we have to have this big dramatic scene of but I love you and we're going to do this at the airport because this is how we do things, You know, it it, it's playing into that definitely.

Yeah, there's even that moment where he has to, like, tackle her out of the way of a car and they go rolling and it's exactly the wedding planner or maid in Manhattan, whichever one it was, where the the dumpster is going to crash to Jennifer Lopez.

It's just it's hysterical how much they get this stuff in there.

And at the same time, they're doing all of these kind of kind of late, screamy, shallowy kind of tropes as well.

And they're, I think they mash it all together in a very fun way.

It's like the later Final Destinations.

The movie's not taking itself seriously.

It was giving me a lot of Funny My Funny Valentine's kind of vibes.

Did this come out also around in February?

Is that right?

I believe, I believe it came coming.

Out earlier this year.

I will.

I will double check the exact dates because I I have it in front of me but I think it came out roughly around the earlier in the year time anyway and.

I remember reviews mentioning Scream and so I was immediately like get back.

So in in the UK it debuted on Valentine's Day.

Pretty sure it came out around.

Yeah, the US, it came out a week earlier, so on the 7th of February.

And so I do think that the movie, inasmuch as it's really just about having fun and just having a good time with the premise, I think there is also a subtle commentary about the commodification of love and the sort of performative aspects of social media relationship posting and how fucking gross all of that is and how cynicism, especially with bad experiences on dating apps and all of the like.

And, you know, the prevalence of Internet porn.

I think that all of these things have forced people into a place where relationships and love have never been more cynical and have never felt more hopeless.

And and it's not the juice isn't worth the squeeze, right?

And so I think this this movie is saying a little bit about that because we have bookended marriage proposals, right?

The marriage proposal at the beginning that is just so gross and everything that's wrong with 2020's romance, it's.

The light.

So can you do it?

And you know, everything is like, I had this planned perfectly and you kill them, it's like.

But you said the name wrong you fucking asshole.

Say it again.

Yeah, it's for me, like, I don't know, I'm not a wedding person, so I didn't have a wedding.

I had like a really small gathering of like my mom and and and you know, my in laws and that wasn't because I wanted to, but it's like, you know, there was no big thing I got to put on social media that oh, I proposed and said yes, you know, it was just it's my own private life.

And so like these people that get like these crazy, I don't understand the point.

Are they doing it for other people or like what?

What don't I get about this?

I mean, I think the, I think the common, the commentary is that in that opening scene, that is exactly what it is.

It is a comment on the role, I think of influencers or what we would describe as influencers in the modern day.

And, you know, these people, you know, who go on there and share their lives and they have this sort of like little corner of Internet fame because, you know, they can take a reasonably good photo of what they're eating that afternoon.

What really sort of frustrated me about it all was that in the mid credits scene that we got.

Also can we stop with like every movie having a mid or end post credits scene?

Yeah, you've heard me make that comment when we talked about The Conjuring Last Rites.

I'm like, I don't know if there was 1 and I don't care.

Not every movie is a Marvel movie, and I don't feel like sitting around.

I just want to leave when the credits roll as you're.

I think if you're going to do a mid or.

Post blooper reel they did after the long walk was a little excessive but you know I need a laugh after that one.

Show what I.

Will say is Pixar needs to bring back the blooper real style stuff.

Gray and like the Toy Story movies and shit and and and Monsters Inc and all that.

That was that was funny.

But that's we're talking about animated films.

Like yeah, like I I Marvel started a really bad trend that like every movie fucking thinks it needs to have a mid credits or a post credits scene and I don't stick around for that shit.

Go fuck.

Yourself The thing is like if you're gonna do it, at least make it worthwhile.

Remember like when like Evil dead came out and like had that post credit scene and it was really short, really snappy and it was just fucking Bruce Campbell saying groovy.

And like I lose like yes, that's what we fucking want.

That's what we want out of a post credits scene.

What this movie did in its mid credits scene was turn this sort of these characters that we're supposed to be invested in, these characters that we're supposed to want to, you know, will to succeed.

And it turned it into the characters from the opening scene because they had the exact same setup as the opening scene with, you know, her, the friend taking the photos and having it all be a bit staged.

And yeah, like, it kind of lack kind of left a little bit of a sour taste in my mouth about our characters right at the very end of the movie.

I guess I disagree because it didn't feel like he knew what was going to happen and it felt like they were.

It was supposed to be the counterpoint to the opening that these two people found each other in a very random, roundabout way and they embraced a love that it took them time to understand.

But then they did and they embraced it their way.

The the marriage proposals happening at the drive in in the front seat of the car.

And he doesn't even know she's ready for this.

She's the one who asks him and he's floored by it.

And yeah, I will admit the point is undercut a little by her friend taking a picture of it.

But it's also kind of cute because it's the two of them and it and and it is that it is that ROM com trope of the non white best friend who has all the time in the world to help her white girl, you know, buddy succeed and nothing of her own going on.

And so and also I just find the Monica character so fucking charming.

So it to me it felt like the counterpoint not saying Oh, they're just the same.

I think I would have felt more like that had we just not had that little bit of scene at the end that mid credit rolls.

I think I would have agreed with you so much more if we just didn't get that because it's so unnecessary.

You don't need it.

It's not necessary at all.

It's not improved.

Yeah.

It's not improved the movie in any point.

It's not improved any of the plot.

The joke itself, that like as a joke that itself, like I don't think that one particularly lands very well.

So yeah, I think we could have just cut that altogether.

But I want to talk about.

What I do want to talk about is this whole sort of opening sequence, right?

Because for me, this is like one of the best parts of the movie.

Like because this opening sequence, I think slaps.

I think this slaps hard.

And I think this really gears me up for what I'm about to receive in this movie because, you know, it fucking dives straight into the action.

It gives you some comedy right off the bat.

It gets that body count up and it probably does actually give us the most creative kill in the entire movie, which in itself I think that is a slight issue.

However, I just think like this opening sequence, it really Harkins back for me to some of those great opening sequence you used to get.

Like I think we're going to reference it quite a lot.

Like Scream for example.

In that original Scream movie, that opening scene is the best scene.

I'm sorry for any huge Scream fans out there.

It's the best scene in the entire franchise.

The franchise never ever gets back to what it did in the opening 5 minutes of its the first movie and I think this movie maybe just sort of follows on that formula a little bit.

Yeah, I agree.

I, I, I mean, that was one of the few like, chuckles and I wasn't sure if I was supposed to be laughing, but I did.

You know, where she's kind of mouthing along the woman's mouthing along with him, like asking him, you know, asking her to marry him.

And at that point, you know, I had no idea there was a photographer yet or anything.

I'm just like, why is she mouthing along with this?

Like what is happening?

And they were unstructurable.

And I'm like, I really hope they die quickly.

And they did.

So that was great.

I mean, he dies and then, you know, we get hurt in that, that wine press kit, which was really fucking cool.

I'll be honest.

That was it was nice and gooey.

I was into it, but just the IT got a little courting, which is like I found the perfect thing and you shot him.

I was having the engagement I wanted like shut up.

I'm glad you're dead.

I'm glad you're.

Dying, yeah, but I think that's the positive.

I think that's what we wanted.

We wanted these characters to die and I think that's exactly what this movie needed.

It needed to give you that gratification, didn't it?

It was like pretty early doors you.

Know as former fans, we want to have people that we want dead.

You know, it's just, and I don't know if that's just the 80s me talking, but like, there's always somebody.

You're just like, I can't wait till they get killed.

Like.

Kill them, it's going to be great.

House of Wax, you know, their entire fucking promotion was around Paris Hilton dying.

You know, like it's not just an 80s thing.

It's it wasn't just a phase mom.

You know, it was we we still want that.

And I think I think when you have a movie like this that might split opinion because it is so sort of ROM com based, I think it's really important to try and get as many people on board with what you're doing as soon as possible.

And I think by giving us this opening scene, by giving us the gratification of killing these characters that we don't like doing it in a really gooey, fun, interesting way, introducing this kind of unique looking killer.

And we'll get to talk about the heart eyes killer as well.

I think that really helped to bring me on board and get me along for the ride for what was going to happen for the rest of the movie.

I also appreciated the tone of the flick.

There was a really exaggerated, sort of severe, slightly stupid, slightly horny attitude of basically everyone in this movie.

And it kind of, for me, helped carry the comedy and helped carry kind of the sheer insanity of going from these extremes of ROM com to these extremes of, I mean, you know, this kind of horror, right?

The sort of, you know, late 90s scream kind of horror.

And yeah, it was something that I just kind of gave myself over to and appreciated.

I fucking love when Mason Gooding screams.

These muscles were not made for violence.

They're for cuddling.

I wish I had cuddling muscles.

I've just got, you know, I'll just sit here and rock my rock my non dad dad bod.

Like a human body pillow over there.

But yeah, so I think what this movie also does really well, cuz Office is talking about that whole opening scene.

It's one big set piece and I think this movie is a succession of relatively decent set pieces in terms of, you know, chase sequences and you know, these sorts of confrontational moments.

Because I start aside from the opening scene, you have, you know, the when, when you know they first encounter her eyes in, in Ali's apartment.

And then that leads on to like the fun fair.

You have the, the, the scene at the police station and that whole chase sequence.

You know, the, the, the sequence in the drive in theatre.

You have this whole sort of end sequence, which in fairness, I think the end sequence is probably the weakest out of all of them I.

Agree.

I do have a quick thing that I'd like to point out.

This takes place in Seattle, so Pacific Northwest right now.

I live in the Midwest.

I I live in Indianapolis and I go to the drive and it's open from like spring until basically Halloween.

Then they shut down for this season and it is not as gross here as it is in Seattle.

Seattle is cold and rainy all times of the year and they're having a drive in open on Valentine's Day and it's got to be fucking freezing and practically no one had a coat on.

I was just having trouble with that scene.

Like if you want to use a drive in scene, why Seattle and why in February?

It's fucking cold there.

Like I, it just didn't make any fucking sense.

And it stuck with me so bad because I'm such a driving queen.

I'm just like, there's no fucking way there's you might as well have it open on February here.

It's it's cold, you know, like it's too cold to be sitting in a car.

So that whole fucking scene would have worked had it been any other time of the year.

I'm just saying.

So anybody I that didn't really affect me too much, probably because I'm not from the US, I'm from the UK and you?

Guys don't really have the.

Drive in and you know.

It's a dying thing, but I I do still have one.

Well, not, not only do we not have the drive in like it's, it's probably, you know, like, unless I have like a relatively good, you know, geographical knowledge, which, you know, I do decently.

But when it comes to this sort of like individual cities, you know, maybe slightly less so.

And so the fact that it's set in Seattle, you know, it really means nothing to me, you know, in terms of in terms of my knowledge of how warm or how cold should this be.

I did see a lot of quite a bit of this when I was doing some research.

And when this afternoon and when I was sort of typing up my notes, I did see a bit of discord about, you know, the setting didn't look quite right because this film was filmed.

This was filmed in New Zealand, this movie, And, you know, there was people saying that like there was too many palm trees about and like the settings just didn't look quite right.

So I did see quite a bit of discourse to that.

But for someone like me who's maybe not from the States, it really didn't have that much impact on my enjoyment of the film.

It's like you've got East Coast weather.

I'm technically in the East Coast time zone, although I should be like half of my state central where he is because he's 1.

Newman is 1 state over for me.

So it's like, you know, then you got like your Midwest stuff.

The South is always warm.

You know, it, it's, and then when you get to the Pacific Northwest, I mean, it's cold and rainy all year.

And then in California it's always sunny.

So it's fucking weird.

So you do kind of have to know.

But Seattle, there is no fucking way they would have one there.

And especially in February, it'd be fucking freezing.

That also didn't really stick out to me or Take Me Out of it, you know, to kind of extend off what I was saying before about the exaggerated tone of everything happening.

It's a visually exciting place for a big final, you know, showdown.

It's a high potential for body count.

It's already baked in to have in of itself kind of being a shout out love letter to film and to the way people absorb film and dates and romance being like, oh, drive in movie theater a place to do that.

So like, I'm over here just going like, eh, whatever, that looks good, bring it on.

Whatever.

Like, that's honestly how it was for me.

It bothered me because, yeah, you may as well call it like, I don't even think of it as Seattle.

You may as well call it Heart Eyes Ville.

It's it's Heart eyes Ville.

The Heart Eyes Ville Police Department don't know what to do.

We got Hobbs and Shaw on the case.

Yeah.

Hobbs and.

Shaw.

I was.

I love it, man, Fuck it.

Oh my God.

Exactly.

It's not serious.

That thing is not serious at all.

And like, I mean, I loved it.

I thought the two of them were hysterically over the top and weird.

I think Jordana Brewster's just a wonderful, like, scenery chewing villain.

And I, I, I enjoy watching her go, you know, just be crazy and overbearing but also sexy.

But that's just unnerving because of how she's doing it.

And then Devin Saltwood just being a complete moron, puffing out his chest, like, yeah, well, you know, obviously she's into betas.

Yep.

I loved it.

That was cracking me up.

I did think those two played Dolph each other to.

See him back in movies.

Yeah, I, like Devin Saw, was always someone that I'm just generally pretty happy to see on my screen.

I'm certainly pretty happy, as you know as a red blooded male, to see Jordana Brewster on my screen as well because she's fucking.

As a bisexual female, I gotta tell you, she's been my dream girl for a very long time, since I saw the very first Fast and Furious million years ago.

I was like that woman is the woman for me.

She's exactly my type and she has aged beautifully and I am still into her.

Jordana, call me.

Not the, not the faculty, no.

Hey, she was hot in the faculty.

I know you're not a fan of that movie.

I I am in the weirdest of ways and the weirdest of It's a long discussion we'd have to talk about.

The fact we've, we've, we, I think we we did you miss that episodes?

Was that before?

I missed that.

Episode that faculty was very much something like because it came out when did it come out I.

Covered it on my old show.

Was it late 98?

Was it 98?

Yeah.

So I I so like I would I was 7 when it came out and then I.

Stood up I was I was already a year out of high school.

And then so I think I think I remember watching it like in the mid 90s, so when I was like 1415 and it very much been somewhat of an A sexual awakening for me, that movie for a variety of different characters.

Yeah, me too.

It was bisexual panic for me.

But.

Who can blame you, A?

100%.

There was some hot individuals in that film.

Definitely.

I think I think what I'm saying though about like the set piece as well, I think each one individually as well has like interesting premises and interesting things happening in them as well as you know, relatively funny moments.

So if you go up to the whole like apartment scene and like you have the whole like vibrator joke and it feels very like toilet humor and you know, it brought it still brought a chuckle out of me, you know, and then.

I did laugh and.

Then throw a dildo at the killer.

I'm sorry.

I'm laughing.

I'm having a ball.

It was.

The thing was bright pink.

And it was.

Yeah.

And it was.

And it had extensions.

I mean, come on, now.

We we went there.

We went the distance.

She had she had some serious hardware right there.

But I also find like that moment where she opens the wardrobe door and the killer's just standing there, it kind of caught me off guard a little bit.

Like I really wasn't expecting it.

And then for, and there's that brief moment where you're like, is it?

Is it real?

Like I there's, there's, there's just like a brief moment where everything kind of freezes and you're like, I don't really know what's going on right now.

And then boom, you're into the action.

And like, I thought it was really well done.

And then obviously you have the whole chase into the fun fair.

And again, I think that brought in some really cool like classic horror tropes, you know, where like the killers on the swing and then she looks back and he's gone.

And then you have the whole, you know, moment on the on the the carousel.

The carousel.

That's what I thought to.

Me, I was kind of like, we can't ever do carousels after Strangers on the Train.

You really can't ever have a carousel on your movie, your war movie.

Like come on now.

I noticed they recreated the TCM remake shot where in the the sex couple got killed and then the camera kind of goes through the hole and then all the way back through again.

That was type.

That couple.

That just went on, man.

That was one of those things.

There's this principle in in like comedy classes where the joke is like, if it's not funny once, do it three times.

If it's still not funny, do it 10 times.

If it's still not funny, do it 20 times.

And it's like, it's like this thing that eventually it'll be funny out of sheer repetition because it becomes so nonsensical.

And I feel like that's what they were going for with.

That bit classes.

I'm saying, man, that I feel like that's where that was the idea behind those two.

It was ridiculous.

Well, I mean, and the worst part was as when I watched stuff and my kids are watching with me because they're Genzy, they're 25 and 18, and they always have to have subtitles on.

And so I had the subtitles on and it was like wet slapping noises.

And I was like, come on.

I I also.

But it was letting me know.

And I was like, oh come on, guy, can I please turn this off?

They're like, no, this is how we like to watch movies.

I'm like, what's wrong with you?

I I also can't watch anything without the subtitles on, I have to have them on.

I just don't know if it's me.

And like now I watch plenty of foreign films.

I like subtitles for that because I don't always speak the language, but like, like, I can watch an Italian movie and not need subtitles, but like, not too many other kinds.

But like, yeah, it's just, it was just really focusing on those noises.

I was like, son of a bitch, please kill them.

Now it's going on, keeps going on.

Like you said, it just went on and on and on.

But what I'll say is like that, that whole sort of drive in theater again, I thought was a really nice set piece.

You know, when the heart ice killer just approaches and he just starts like he's very Jason Voorhees.

I think in in this moment, you know, where he's just fucking killing people as he goes past.

And you know, it was a really good way of really ramping up that body count as well.

Because I think when you're doing a movie like this, you know, you have to, because how many times have we talked about movies?

And I, I think we probably talked about it kind of like when we were talking about Tusk, if you remember, and we were like, this is a body horror that's got like a really fucking huge Rep for being this like far out there, like bizarre.

But you see, when you actually sit down and watch it, it doesn't go far enough.

It does not go far enough exactly, and I think I remember us making a huge point of that.

Yeah.

And what, what, what I think you're doing with a movie like this, I think you have to go super OTT with like the comedy.

You have to go super, you have to have like a really high body count.

You have to have some really creative and gory kills.

And I do think that this this movie hits all of those points, you know, and it has got some really creative kills, like you said, the, the, the, the sex, the sex couple.

Is that what we're calling them?

Are they just the sex couple?

Where do I go sex?

Van.

I mean, the van seems just as important as the sex.

Where do I go to be referred to as the sex couple I I'd like to know well.

First of all, you gotta be having sex.

Oh God.

Well, maybe I'll just.

There's a list, but that's the top of the list bro, I gotta tell you.

I've got old last day here to help me.

I tell you some.

Of the cringy dialogue did make me laugh.

I will admit that there are times that made me laugh like like when they're looking for weapons and you know obviously the sex couple has gotten killed this higher iron and then pulling the other chick the chick's head on top of it like that was creative kill.

But then they're looking for weapons and they're like, oh, here's this.

And they both put their hand on each other's hand and pull it off with the guts all over it.

I'm like, or, or brain matter all over it.

And I'm like, OK, this is kind of silly.

I'm going to laugh at this, but.

I love later when they one.

Of those moments that I was like, this is kind of funny, yeah.

I love later when they kill him too, and it's like it's the two of them have to work together to get it done and it gets all up in her face and she's like, it got in my mouth, Jay.

Which?

Come on, he throws up on him.

I'm.

Like nice, but you know, it got in my mouth.

Double meaning we're, you know, we're still playing with the different tropes.

I also, I also love the Jordana Brewster death at the end.

It's not that I've never seen, you know, one of those slow decapitations where it's the weight of your body that actually does the decapitation That's so fucking cool.

It's not that I've never seen it done in film, but I don't often see it done in film.

And that for me was a very satisfying fill and kill.

And it's much more satisfying than if it were, it was like an automatic, you know, like if you automatically decapitate someone.

I mean, it was slow and, and it, it was gooey.

This this is a gooey film.

I also I also very much like the the the non lethal arrow through the face of the tech guy.

I can't remember his name.

David.

David to be like, I'm David.

Oh yeah, that's right, David.

I I thought that I thought that looked really fucking gnarly as well.

I really enjoyed that.

So that's I'm saying like I think like I'm really like.

I know we're talking about, you know, like the OTT Ness of like the romantic angles of this and things and maybe some of the comedy and that, but I'm genuinely it's really struggling to find an aspect of this movie.

Like you think about like like that, that that the the SFX are really fucking good in this movie.

There's some really gory gnarly kills.

There's some cool fucking moments.

It's funny, like I just, I'm really high on this movie.

I'm, I'm higher on this movie than I thought I was going to be.

I didn't think.

Smaller.

I'm sorry, just small technical detail.

There's that sequence in the police station where we're getting some very creative use of light with just a flashlight.

Yeah, that whole sequence, to me, I'm like, well, that's a lot more visually creative than A Goofy Movie like this needs to bother being.

Yeah, kind of like night vision.

And that was pretty interesting.

I was like, well, nod.

The Silence of the Lambs.

100% but also created this really cool image of that, that, that character and the what do we think of like the mask in that?

Because obviously, you know, we've, we've dealt with a lot of like masked villains in our days.

And you know, like I, I personally think this is quite a unique and cool looking if.

You've ever seen my handwriting?

I either dot my eyes with circles or with hearts.

I've done that since grade school.

I'm a big fan of hearts.

So like stylistically and just that person.

So I actually really like the mask.

I like it a lot.

It reminds me of My Bloody Valentine.

It reminds me of The Prowler.

It is very much a part of what this movie is like, as much as a film has a premise and then there's a certain degree of brand management as far as that premise is concerned.

This is one of those movies that if you said, well, we had the poster 1st and then we put some really good people on making it entertaining.

I believe you.

It's a it's a striking design.

And it says, oh, heart eyes.

Yeah, that's what that killer would look like.

Yeah, yeah, I do like the visuals.

I like the poster when it first came out.

I just, I don't know, I wasn't excited enough to see the movie because I heard a lot of comparisons to Scream and that turned me off.

I'm going to see the film, which is, you know, because usually it's it's a, it's a dry spell for horror during that time period.

You know, in, in the first quarter of the year, there's really not a lot of horror, but you don't get it like, you know, late spring, early summer.

So I was kind of seeing it, but then too many screen comparisons.

But yeah, I love the look of the poster alone and then seeing it.

Yeah, it's, it's a cool mask.

And then with the the light in it made it even cooler.

For me the only issue I have really is I I wish they hadn't talked with the mask on.

Yeah.

Like I would like, I'm fine with having like that exposition in the end once everyone's been demasked, but I really wish they hadn't talked with a mask on again.

It felt very scream and that.

And this is the point.

And because like up until this point, a lot of the stuff has felt very scream like the open, like I've said, like the opening sequence and how it's like it feels a bit matter and then stuff like that.

And I think all of that is for the betterment of this movie.

But I think this is something that was like that, and it detracted for me because it kind of took away that mysteriousness, didn't it?

And then, like, you know, once once they've been revealed, chat away as much as you fucking want, right?

Because the mystery is gone at that point.

And I felt it just let that car out the bag like a little bit too early.

I could have just done without that.

They could have just gotten, you know, Alley there with like a photo and a text message.

They didn't need to call her, you know?

And yeah, that that that's like one part that I wasn't overly chuffed with.

Yeah, it it felt a little flat for me too.

Yeah, can I just say as well, Ali, our main character, her odd campaign really was shit.

Yeah.

I like, I don't even get like, OK, where is this like this ironic thing or we're appealing to people who haven't had good romance.

Like help me understand cuz I can usually wrap my head around lots of different angles.

I don't get this.

And, and how did it get all the way to the point where she's pitching it to the boss and like other people are seeing it and it got approved, all that shit?

Yeah, and The thing is, is the weird part is I liked it.

But let me explain.

I, I explained that I, I love love and I'm, I'm a big romantic person, but I'm kind of fucked up about it though, because I'm all like the ultimate love story is like Dracula.

Like, OK, so that's where I'm where I'm coming from.

Like if I saw a campaign like that, I'd be like, I might consider getting, you know, my sapphire ring from there because that's pretty fucked up.

I like it.

But I I think when you're appealing to like particularly the wedding crowd or you people, you're going to go get your, your, you know, somebody's, you know, engagement ring or whatever they're you're going for the wrong audience.

But for me, I would be sold American.

Like, yeah, they're fucked up and I'm into it.

I'm somebody who has a Star Wars wedding band, you know, like, I mean, it's, it's, I just like different stuff, you know, I wear some wild ass stuff.

It's all real stones.

It's just weird.

And I would buy from it.

But I again, yeah, her idea that that would work on a like mainstream level.

Absolutely not.

It reminded me of like the the.

Use of the red fabric is the blood.

I'm into it.

It reminded me of the movie that the film guy made in May you know the Adam I think is the boyfriend she has for about 5 minutes and he he has that student film he made of the two of.

The like opera thing, that's what I remember about this apartment from.

In the in the IT was like a couple in black and white having a picnic, but then they literally devour each other and bloods going everywhere and and like it's a very Doo wop song being played in the background kind of reminded me of that.

But yeah, it's, I mean, it's just it's it's part of what we have to have happen for the movie to work.

I I think her boss is is just.

Definitely plot device.

Yeah, it it took me back to the that old 90s ROM com, What Women Want with Helen Hunt and Mel Gibson.

I think I was 13 years old and I took a girl to see that.

And it was just like we're pretending to be grown-ups who know how to date.

We're at a movie, we're holding hands.

It was, I mean, but I remember that movie probably because of that.

Yeah, definitely.

Your mistake is thinking and again maybe I'm just weird and I mean let's admit it, I'm a weird.

Like I remember a guy who was a friend took me to a ROM com because he thought that's what I'd want to see and I was like this isn't a date and if it was absolutely not why would you think I would want to do this just cuz I'm a girl Like come on man.

The last movie date I went on was to go see Weapons.

Hey, that's awesome.

Sean and I, the first.

Oh God, it was the first.

We watch Reanimator every.

That's our Valentine's Day movie.

And I remember we on a date, we went and saw the Evil Dead remake and we laughed through the whole thing and people were like getting up and moving away from us.

Like, I don't know that to us that's that's a romantic.

You mean you mean the best movie in the Evil Dead franchise?

Yeah.

Don't sass me with this.

My my wife Michelle and I, one of the first movie dates we went on together was to see the Suspiria remake.

Nice.

And I there was one of those moments of like, I think this is going to go somewhere.

I think she might, she might be the one.

And here we are.

It's like, what's?

So on our first Valentine's Day, we spent together, like Sean and I, we've known each other since we were kids, but our first like, romantic, like Valentine's Day together, we were like, let's watch Reanimator and like, yeah, we're going to get married.

I need to find that person.

Yeah, bro, dude, look at me for fuck's sake.

If it can happen for me, come on man, you've got this.

And we, and we just.

It's just not the hottest chick in the world.

But I I, I scored a big one and.

We've got similar heads, you know.

Right in more ways than one, my brother.

In more ways, you know what, I'm just really happy.

It's it's so unusual for us to get 55 minutes into a recording and this really be the first like tangent that we've gone off on because we always keep it really nice.

We always go off and have like 3 hour long episode, but we've kept our conversation pretty focused on the movie.

I'm so proud of us.

I'm so, so proud of us because the three of us together really shouldn't.

Like that's a recipe for disaster.

Does it?

Yeah.

Does it Does it show that I already, and he did record something earlier today and so I'm not quite as caffeinated as I usually AM?

I did just finish like a 10 hour work shift before I came on this record.

Maybe that's what it is, maybe that's what it is, but.

We're just tired enough to be focused.

I set.

The Valium an hour ago before we.

Start right.

So we've got about 30 more good minutes out of Conti.

Well, I'm going to see a movie after this, so.

Yeah, I'm going to.

I'm going to get a tattoo after this.

I'm.

Going I'm going to bed, you have.

My one huge one.

I'm going to see Blackbone too.

So yeah, you did mention that, didn't you?

You.

Didn't cross it.

Didn't.

Yeah.

Let me know how that is.

Did you also go see Hereditary recently at the?

Yeah, we went and saw Hereditary the other night.

That was amazing.

I don't.

I don't think I saw it on the big screen.

I think I didn't.

The first go round, because I was, I just started going through all of my stuff and we didn't quite know like about my spine.

And so I was just too much medical shit going on.

So seeing it on the big screen was fucking amazing.

What's the Alamo?

Because you know, they always have some horror thing going on, but this month they have a new one every night.

So we've been there like every other night.

Awesome, and just whilst to finish off the tangent, what else is left on everyone's Halloween horror watch list this year?

Obviously candy, we have a couple for the show, but like what?

What have you got on plans that you think aside from that before for Halloween?

The remake of night living dead.

I always watch Creepshow on Halloween and I just recently did my criterion watch of the original Night of living dead but and I saw Day of the dead on big screen so Dawn I still need to rewatch and Grindhouse which is one of my favorite movies that ever and being in grindhouse I've been.

I also got to work my way through the Blood trilogy of Herschel Gordon Lewis for Halloween, so.

Nice.

Newman That would be Color Me Blood Red, blood Feasts and 2000 maniacs.

Awesome, awesome, awesome.

I need to just try and get caught up on movies I've missed over 2025 S.

You know Black Phone 2 will be 1 I need to check out.

I want to rewatch the Monkey because I kind of frigging loved that and I want to see just how I feel on a rewatch because it's just very gonzo and I like movies that are kind of wacky in that way.

Took this.

Story and went in a really weird place with it, but I was all right with it.

It's good for what it is.

And, and just sort of to clean up.

I never saw Final Destination bloodlines.

And so I kind of just want to just just to be done, you know, to do them all.

Yeah, it's a little.

Bit emotional at a certain part.

You definitely will.

And you know, I think it's good fun.

I I had a lot of fun with it.

And every October I try to either finish off like or complete a franchise I haven't seen every part of so I'm gonna just make it a point to watch prom night 3 and 4 before Halloween cuz I do 1 and 2.

And I just recently did those I.

Love Prom Night 2 so much and I didn't even realize 3 and 4 existed so I was like, you know what, that'll be easy just and then you can say aha I'm still doing a new franchise every year because I kind of forgot about that till now.

And then of course, I need to finish my My Lawnmower Man retrospective dead.

Stop at 3:00.

On Return of Living Dead, Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

So many, so many people stop, or should I say arrive at Return of the Living Dead 3, Cha cha cha.

But and then there's also Lawnmower Man 2.

I don't know if that really counts as horror, but I, I have to watch it because it's part of this big retrospective episode I'm going to do that.

I'm going to release on Halloween.

Nice.

Well, for me, I have to still go through my I always go through classic slashers.

Everyone knows I'm the slasher guy.

So it'll be Halloween, it'll be Elm Street three.

I'm sorry, Candy, but it'll be Jason X, It'll be.

I prefer Jason X to a certain movie, so I'll give you that.

Really allow me that yeah, I always pick like a franchise at random, like outside of like the big ones.

So not, you know, screams or child's plays or hell raisers or things like that.

And I always pick try and pick a franchise to just sort of watch through.

This year it's Cube I.

Love cube.

I love alright.

Cube was a movie when I worked at because I worked at video stores for a really, really long time before I was no longer able to work.

And they pretty much died it at that point anyway.

But I worked at Mom and pop.

We had one copy of cubes.

It was right after I got out of high school and I rented that fucker like 15 times.

But then I loved to and I even liked Zero.

It's it's great.

You should I, I think.

I think I think there's.

Two and then zero.

Have you watched the reboot the the Japanese?

Is it Japanese?

Reboot I've meant to, but I haven't gotten there yet because I, I just bought somebody and dropped a bunch of their really hard to find pulgies at the place where I buy movies.

And so I've been working my way through those because they were like impossible to find.

I was like, Oh my God, now I have to watch all of these.

Awesome.

So yeah, yeah, Anyways, what definitely wasn't, you know, filling for time or anything there.

Let's do chattering, shuddering back to her eyes.

There's a couple of, there's a couple of pretty glaring plot holes in this movie that like I can't normally when it comes to sort of plot holes in our horror movies that we talk about.

I think I'm quite forgiving in them because I always believe you have to have that sort of suspension of disbelief, don't you, to accept a horror movie.

But there's a couple of pretty big ones in here.

Like, for example, our killers open certainly admit at the very end of the movie that Ali and Jay are not the original intended victims of the heart eyes killers.

They were actually going to kill Ali's ex and his partner.

We never also never really find out what what what did her ex do other than, you know, commit the cardinal sin of being British?

My, my take away from that was that when they're talking while the the sex couple is having sex, they were, she was like, well, I always run away from love and it's and, and she's like, I didn't have my heart broken.

It's just that he moved on so fast.

Like she, she basically says sort of not directly, but that she ran away from it.

That's what I got from it.

That's that's not much, but it's what I got from it.

Now, the only thing that I remember is that he was very, very public about this New Girl on social media and that it felt a little tasteless because that happened very quickly after the breakup.

And that it was just a bit of a a bit of A twist of the knife.

And you know he.

Was also pretty that he broke up.

I was going to say, let's let's not forget he's British.

I mean, I don't know.

They're not from the United States.

It really does carry a lot of weight.

We just, we hate.

We hate so, so strongly.

I'm just going to say as a Scotsman who unfortunately, for as much as I don't want to be classed as I am technically also British, US Scots as British people, we're, we're not cold and heartless.

We're warm, welcoming and and lovely so well.

See, I'm always correcting people.

Like they'll be like, oh, they're British.

I'm like, no, they're Scottish or no, they're Irish.

You know?

Like I can tell the difference between the access, but when people can't, it pisses me off.

So I'm imagining you might feel the same way.

Yeah, so.

Tell you guys is.

So lumping everyone in is British doesn't really work unless it's an English person for the most part.

But even then there are still parts of England who also don't like being classed as being British.

So it's like for example someone from Welsh.

So Wales is his own country as well.

So but in terms of like regions of England, if you go to like Newcastle or Cornwall or Liverpool, these places really don't like being classified as British.

Don't get me wrong like that.

I'm very much broad stroking this and it's the same for Scottish.

There's a lot of Scottish people out there who who are perfectly fine with being classified as being British as well.

But for the most parts, the other nations of the UK, because despite the fact that England and Britain seem to be the sort of two that are thingied, we're all nations of the same UK.

So Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland are all part of this.

And yeah, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland generally do not like being called British.

Well, I remember when I moved to Washington, DC and, you know, people found out I was from Indiana.

They were like, what's it like to live on a farm?

I'm like, I grew up in the hood of Indianapolis.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

A farm and I I have an accent that is indecipherable.

The best people can get is West Coast.

And I am so not from the West Coast.

I don't want to be considered Southern.

I don't like, you know, like.

So yeah, I, I get it.

It's like that here.

We have so many different dialects.

Like I try to be very generic because I was an English major.

And that's the thing as well.

So like here in Scotland, for example, where I'm from in Scotland, we have a very, very distinct dialect called Doric that we talk.

And this is completely unique to this really small part of the country.

If you travel less than less than, you know, 40 kilometers down the road down and then you head down to like the next nearest city, Dundee, the accent is wildly different.

And then if you had another hour down the road, the accent is like, they're not even remotely similar.

Like if you talk to someone from Glasgow or Edinburgh or Aberdeen, like they're all wild.

And bear in mind we're a country that you can go end to end in about, you know, four or five hours.

I'm probably being slightly, slightly underestimated of there.

But, you know, we are a small country and the accents differ wildly all the way from the top to the bottom.

And that goes for England as well.

Like someone from Newcastle, someone from Liverpool, you know, the accents are so wildly different as well that even as someone who isn't from this country, you will notice like a huge difference in the accents of people for such a small country as well.

So when people lump in like Britain altogether, you know, and this whole idea that like, oh, this really cute, like British accent, it's always the Queen or the King's English, you know?

And that's what's classified as the British accent.

It's Hugh Grant.

That's what people think the British accent is.

And there's really not.

That's such a small proportion of the country when in actual fact, there's a huge wide range of different dialects and voices out there.

Technically, I have a British accent.

Do I sound like Hugh Grant?

Do I Fuck.

So yeah, So there's that.

I really see.

There we go.

There was a tangent like British talk about this.

Goddamn Brits.

Back to my point, so the killers were originally going to kill, you know, our British ex and her and his new partner.

And then they saw our main characters kissing and decided, you know what, we're going to go for them instead and then immediately show up in not only in her apartment but in her wardrobe.

How did they know where she lived?

Oh, that's the thing.

That's the thing, you're not.

I mean, come on, it's the information age.

But maybe they figure that shit out real quick.

Plus, one of them is a cop, one of them is a cop.

She's got access to fucking information she shouldn't fucking have.

No, man, are you kidding?

I love that because it shows it's it's that ROM com trope of, oh, they're pretending that they're in a thing to make other people jealous.

But what they don't know is they're going to fall in love with each other.

And that kiss reveals how they really feel about each other.

And so the kiss that reveals their true love is also the thing that doomed them, because it's the thing that made the killers go whoa, hang on.

Those two love each other.

Oh, it's gonna be so hot when we kill them.

Let's make it them.

I love it.

The.

Kiss was like that, you know, like it wasn't that passionate or anything that would to me give it away like I'm.

Just like for such a gooey film, it was really not that gooey.

A kiss?

Yes.

It didn't unlock any passions or anything.

It was just sort of like, oh.

All right.

So the basements were not basements were not flooded on this viewing is.

What I'm hearing, I was like, shut the fuck up.

When So my, my other, my other point of issue is, and I know obviously Jordana Brewster is playing this corrupt cop, this corrupt cop.

But there's no way in hell that anyone actually thought that Jay was the Heart Eyes killer and that after that initial sequence, they found him unconscious.

You know, there were, you know, as part of the chase, even even our main character, Ali is going no, no, no.

This other person who she is also being seen as a victim, you know, you know what I mean?

Like, it just seems so implausible that anyone would actually think that he was the suspect, that he was the killer.

Yeah.

For me it was just part and parcel with these kinds of movies where the cops are more interested in having a little tidy box they can throw something into rather than actually get to the bottom of what's happening.

Shit, last night as part of The Who could?

Plant something or whatever.

And I think that's something you see in it's.

Been in threadbare but it's there.

You see that I think, in these kinds of horror movies quite often.

Hell, last night I was watching The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue with me, too.

But the cop in that is a total Dick.

He's convinced that George and Martha are to blame.

And he's not interested in looking at the countering, you know, evidence.

He just wants to be able to say, yeah, killings, these two weirdos from out of town.

Boom.

And so I don't know, it especially so it kind of worked for me, especially when later the revelation of 01 of the killers is a cop.

Well, it looks pretty good, if I can say.

Yeah, This young man of color, he committed the killings.

We're going to put his ass in the system.

Yeah, they do make a few different references to his skin colour, don't they?

Like when our friend is like, go get that melanin man, you know?

Yeah, like, OK.

OK, right.

Well, I've kind of ticked everything off my list, so I'm going to open the floor up to you guys.

Anything else that you guys want to talk about or cover that we haven't done so already for our eyes?

I I just want to shout out Alex McCall, who was the stunt guy who played Hek during the majority of the masked, you know, action sequences.

I thought he did a really good fucking job.

I think he did a really good job, definitely.

Like a Jason type action like we mentioned before.

He felt very powering, very imposing throughout the movie, you know, I thought and like, really threatening, you know?

So yeah, I thought he did a really good job too.

I like the tool kit too.

You know, they kind of had under his duster, you might say, his whole little utility belt, all his, and I enjoyed that as well.

It's like I got my tools, I'm ready to rack.

Candy, anything else from you?

No, I think I've stated my case.

OK, OK, right, let's move on then.

Our trivia section is going to be rather short this week because there's not a huge amount out there and I feel like we've covered quite a lot already.

But let's talk about some trivia.

Be my victim I am the writing on the.

Wall, As always, we'll start off with the finances.

So according to IMDb, this movie had a budget, $18 million, which is I think, a pretty high budget, a pretty big budget for the type of movie that we've got here.

And it's grossed worldwide, $33.1 million.

So not a failure, not a massive success.

And I'm, I'm going to assume there's no real sort of prospects of this ever becoming like a sequel or a franchise.

And I'm totally fine with that because not everything needs to be, you know, a franchise or sequels and things like that.

So.

It's very gimmicky.

It's very gimmicky and it's premise alone it we just need one.

One is fine.

Yeah, I very much felt that way about like Happy Death Day, and then we got Happy Death Day to you and I really felt like we didn't know that as well.

So, you know, I hope they don't then go and give us more of this.

I think I think that one is enough.

And it did relatively OK on its opening weekend and it did like $8 million in its opening weekend, which is fine.

And there's roughly about 1 what they predicted, but obviously from the majority of movies, they then go on and do significantly worse than their second weekend.

This movie actually did better on its second weekend because its second weekend was on Valentine's Day.

And so it went on to actually make more on its second weekend than it did on his opening weekend.

So it had a bit of an odd sort of like financial like path there.

But ultimately, you know, I think it's it's yeah, it did OK.

It did just fine.

So the.

Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead.

I had AI had a go.

Go.

The mask design was headed up by Tony Gardner and Brian Christensen.

Tony Gardner is the special effects guy who took over the Chucky franchise and the design of the Chucky dolls after, oh, I want to say Brian Yeager kind of tossed him the ball.

And I always forget if that was on Bride of Chucky or Seed of Chucky, But it was one of those two where Tony Gardner took over and he's been kind of heading that up ever since.

Does that mean he was responsible for Cult of?

Chuck back in my brain.

He was partly responsible for Cult of Chucky.

You mean the second best Chucky movie in the entire franchise?

Yes.

Wait, no I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I got so excited I misspoke.

I feel that way about Curse of Chucky part 6.

I think that's the second.

I think that's the second best in the franchise.

Anything to say there can't be.

I'll let you take this one.

I.

Like I like in this order child's play, child's play 2 and child's play 3.

Despite child's play.

You mean 2019, right?

Oh, Ian, come on now.

Ian, you and I were doing real good there for a minute.

Hang on, this space is coming through the camera.

I my my.

Kids and he's like I really like Newman up until today.

I don't think we need to ask him back again all.

Of the further ones and I really am upset with them about it but you know some things you just you know can't teach but yeah I like them in the first 3 in in order that they.

Can I?

I partially like the first 3 the most as well.

I think I prefer Child's Play 2 too.

Child's play a lot.

Of people do and I just I love the first one.

Chris Sarandon.

I've been hot for him for 8,000,000 years.

It's never going to change and some of the best lines were in that one.

But I'm one of the weird people.

I really love three.

I thought 3 was fantastic.

Also, so now that we've said that we've liked them can all can we be friends with Alex Vincent again since he fucking hates this?

Show Vincent does not want to be friends with anyone.

He definitely doesn't want to be friends with Paul to the down.

No.

I my.

Buddy Nico.

I, I meant I, I text Nico when he said, you know, because Devin Sawa was one of the Q&A's for the con that he's at just now.

And I suggested that he asked him if he would have liked to have been in the Child's Play remake, because that's pretty much what he asked Alex Vincent.

And Alex Vincent was not very pleasant in his response.

Yeah, and and see other Nico, which I I call mine ego, that they're both kind of mine ego now.

My Nico almost got into a fight with them too.

So if your name's Nico, like really watch out for that guy, but watch out for him anyway.

He really is unhappy A.

100% It's funny you brought up Tony Gardner, because Tony Gardner also created the killer's masks for the movies Happy Death Day, Freaky and Totally Killer as well, and all of them have like really distinct masks.

And I think you can very much see his style come through in like all of those killer masks as well.

So yeah, it was interesting you brought that up.

Yeah, I think Hard Eyes was probably my favorite of the mess.

I really.

Did like, yeah, I think it seems like it's like I liked Happy Death Day.

Like hard eyes is a mess.

I would.

Me too.

I thought the first Happy Death Day was great.

It was a great execution of what the stated premise was, and I feel like that thing hadn't been done to death.

I feel like after that movie we saw a rush of folks trying to ape that same success, and while I don't think we needed Happy Death Day to you, I was higher on it than most people.

I was like, this was fun, this was fun and fine.

I'd rather watch the first one, but this was fun and fine.

Yeah.

I also have a pretty huge crush on Jessica Roth, so we'll probably just go with that.

That's probably got quite a bit to do with it as.

Well, girls got rizz, man, Girls got rizz.

What are you going to do?

Like, she's she, she really rides the line very well of, you know, that kind of winking at the camera, you know, kind of attitude.

It really works well in that flick.

It's part of why I think the movie succeeds.

I also want to mention how funny it was when I learned that.

If a take went particularly well during the making of Hard Eyes, you could count on director Josh Rubin to sing Somebody Once Told Me the World Was Gonna.

Roam.

Me.

Apparently that was like what would happen if a take went just fucking perfect.

It starts singing Smash Mouth.

I mean, it must, it definitely must have been an All Star take that.

Oh, my God.

I'm actually a little bit of ashamed myself for that one.

Yeah.

So obviously in this movie, the two detective killers are named Hobson Shaw, which is obviously a reference to the Fast and the Furious franchise.

The screenwriters confirmed that even before Jordana Brewster was cast that there was always their intention to have the characters named this.

So it was always going to be I.

Thought it was because she was in it.

No.

So the joke was always going to be there that the police officers were going to be called Hobbs and Shaw, and then they went on to cast Jordana Brewster.

So kind of a happy accident, I guess, as well.

So, but yeah, that's what I have for trivia.

It was really short.

Obviously, it's a relatively newer movie.

And again, like most of these things, more and more trivia comes out over time.

But if there's anything else that you guys have, then feel free to to speak now.

There's a director cameo You though when?

It comes around.

We got a director cameo during the showdown.

At the drive in, there's a guy who runs into the frame and yells somebody called 911.

That's.

Director Josh Rubin.

I thought you was in the room with us there, to be honest.

Yeah, yeah, he's, he's been back here the whole time, so he's got things to say.

And then in an interview I found, Jordana Brewster talked about just how much she relished playing a villain.

She loved it.

She said she never wants to be the good guy ever again.

She just wants to be evil.

From now on, you don't.

Think loved it.

You don't think though like it's a villain and it also like it was.

Great.

I thought she was great.

I also remember like back at school and like I used to do some like amateur acting and like be in like school production and things.

Playing the villain is always so much more fun.

It's.

So much more fun.

You know, I, I did a lot of, I was a theatre kid.

I did, I excelled at musicals, but I did a lot of dramatic roles and I later went on to direct state stuff.

But like, yeah, I love playing a villain or a big character actor because you had the best fucking lines at that stage of direction.

It's so much more fun.

I just feel like.

The regular you know, the good person.

It's so much more fun.

Yeah, I feel like the best direction you could ever give someone is pretend your character is Doctor Loomis and they can just like, right, let's go, we're going to choose some fucking scenery.

And by dear God, did Jordana Brewster chew the scenery in her scenes.

She actually has relatively limited screen time in this movie as well.

She doesn't have a huge amount of screen, you know, and you know she does so so and the same actually even less so for Devin Sawa.

He has even less screen time and the scenery that them two guys chewed and what they managed to achieve in like their short appearances, I think they did a fantastic job and it's exactly what this movie needed.

They needed this kind of like over the top character that really just fucking, you know, sets the movie up.

So I think they did a really good job.

With that being said, we'll move on to our final segment, the one that everyone wants to hear, and it's our ratings and our reviews.

Congratulations, you are still alive.

Most people are so ungrateful to be alive but love you not anymore.

As always, we will start off with the critics scores.

IMDb has this currently rated at a six out of 10.

Metacritic has this at 6.1.

Time for the Rotten Tomatoes guessing game I guess.

Candy, you've been doing pretty good at this the last couple episodes.

Pretty good you've you've you've finally started.

Stopped Nico's very long standing winning streak at least.

I still think it's a fluke.

I still think I'm.

Fluke Well, it's been two in a row now.

The last twice that Nico's been on the episode.

It's been two in a row.

And even when Nico wasn't on the show, you're you were you were much closer with your gases as well.

So I think I think you're you're hitting an upturn in form.

But I will ask you to go first this week.

What do you think the Rotten Tomatoes critics scored this movie?

59.

59%.

I'm trying to go close to like the the sixes we were getting.

OK 59 Jeff Rotten Tomatoes Critics What do you think they scored?

88.

OK, OK, Well, it's in the, it's somewhere in the middle there, but.

One would hope you're not.

This is actually 100.

No, I'm joking.

And it is Ron's match.

Critics scored this 77% fresh.

I think Newman, you just take that by a few points there.

But yes, 77%, which I think is a pretty reasonable score.

Chris Consensus, a mixture of gory slasher and sweet to ROM com that ingeniously nails both formulas.

Heart eyes serves up a bloody Valentine that they'll make the heart skip a beat.

Look at that for a pun, right?

Newman?

You get to go first for the audience, though.

What do you think the Rotten Tomatoes audience scored this?

Let's say 75.

OK, 75 candy.

I'm going to go 70.

If ever, if ever there was a time to prices right someone candy, that was it.

Because it was 70, I was.

Thinking that was like I'm going to I could prices right him, but I I feel like I did that Tanika wait for.

You though 76% from the Rotten Tomatoes audience knew when you were just one away the audience current census.

With a killer mash up of romance, cheese, horror and comedy, this Valentine release may lack a compelling plot, but it's surely A feast for the heart and eyes.

Who writes?

This shit.

I don't know but I fucking want to learn how they do it.

I just want to like, cut to Homer Simpson going.

I don't get it.

Right as always, we throw it out to our audience, our listeners, our followers and ask for you guys opinions on what we have talked about.

There's no there's no Newman's one in here this week.

How will we ever live it'll?

Be weird.

I'm sure somehow we'll survive this week.

Our friends over at the podcast in the Woods says it's a decent enough slasher romantic comedy.

There's some fun chases, but they're really out of nowhere.

Ending holds it back 6 out of 10.

Our friends over at the Cinema Recall podcast says Her Eyes was clever in the way it incorporated both a typical ROM com and a typical slasher.

It's not perfect, but it's fun.

Elwood Jones gives it an 8 out of 10 and well worth the poke, if only for the Vineyard opening.

Harry the movie guy says 10 out of 10.

Fun movie, and it feels like it's been a while since we've had one of these, but we've got a review from our very, very good friend Ren to read out, so we'll finish off with Ren.

Ren says.

I watched this exactly one time and that's all I plan to for the rest of time.

Me and Ren.

I always feel like out of the four of us, it's Candy and Ren and it's me and Newman.

Like that's the team.

That's right.

I'm flashing back to our Freddy versus Jason episode and it's yeah, it's, but yeah, we're going to do.

This epic battle of the original Evil Dead versus the remake of Evil Dead.

And me and Ren are original Evil Dead.

I mean, you can join up with Ian.

We're going to have the fight of the century.

Oh, we will.

Anyways, I keep I keep pitching for the ultimate showdown where you and I team up against Ian and Nico over Halloween three season of the week, because that's that's the one where you and I are are on the same side.

You know what, I just, I just want us all to still be friends.

It's OK.

Jimmy Stewart's not and in this movie.

It was just a wave.

I re listened to that episode for the first time like 2 weeks ago and I've I didn't realize how obvious it was that I absolutely raging.

I am at Nico throughout that and there was a point where I was like I heard a noise and I was like, that was me throwing a pen across the room.

Like there's a moment where you hear a noise and it's the pen, my pen hitting my opposite wall because I'm losing my.

Had I been on this show?

Because that was like right before I joined this show.

That was just before.

I've been on there.

If it had been, if it would have been worse or better because I was more in your camp, I was in your camp.

I know if that would have gone any better or worse.

I was crashing out during that episode.

It was what child anyways, Ren finishing Ren's review.

So I watched this exactly one time and that's all I plan to for the rest of time.

That's not to say I hated it, but it is just kind of there.

It felt more ROM com than slasher and I'm not really a fan of the former.

Some cool kills and interesting concept.

But if I'm going to watch a Valentine's Day horror, I already have My Bloody Valentine, so.

And that was what we heard from Rand Candy.

You said you had a review to to read out as well.

Yeah, it is from my dear friend Nico.

Nice, nice.

I'm specifying that it's not from our Nico, it's from this Nico.

But he says 6.5 decent kills.

And the Hallmark Channel ROM com aesthetic does bring a certain charm, but overall it ends up being a generic paint by the numbers slasher film with a gimmick.

OK, OK.

With that review of you would think it'd be less than a 6.5, but I have never understood quite how Niko writes name on my old show for like 5 years.

I don't know.

How do we how do any of us rate anything that's that's the big.

Me viciously, apparently.

And me significantly less so.

Well, given that review from Niko and all of our other listeners, as well as all the other ones that we got across our social media platforms, on average, our audience gave Heart Eyes a 6.4 out of 10.

So very much kind of in keeping there with, you know, what everyone else had to say.

So that just leaves the three of us and Newman as the guest of the show, you get to have the first words.

What do you rate Heart Eyes on a scale of zero to 10?

So as you all know, I don't often employ a rating system on my show, so rating things is something that I kind of only do when I'm engaging with other folks who do it.

A lot of times for me, a rating has a lot to do with what I think the movie is trying to do, and also my entertainment value, my enjoyment.

All that being said, I think this movie succeeds at what it's trying to do.

It's fun, it's funny, it does all of the obnoxious ROM com stuff.

It puts a lampshade on all of that.

It comments on the cynicism of today's, you know, paradigm of romance.

And it incorporates a lot of great practical effects, creative kills, gooey, fun, well paced horror comedy.

And it's taking the ball of Happy Death Day, which I really liked, and running with it.

And I think succeeding with a wonderful cast.

And it doesn't take up too much of my God damn time.

So, you know, yeah, it's a gimmick, but it's a gimmick that succeeds.

So for all those reasons, 7 out of 10.

Beautiful.

Stunning.

I love it.

Right, Candy?

Let's let's put a Debbie Downer on this.

What are you scoring?

This.

I don't think I'm being too down considering some of my recent scores.

I'm looking at you, Halloween 2018.

Great movie.

No it's not if I take it my score up by half a point.

To the.

Discussion, So I will tell you that much because I had it at a solid 4.

I'm going to give it a 4.5.

I do not even think it's good enough to be middle of the road.

I frequently now I smoke a lot when when I'm I'm doing podcasts.

I really don't smoke as much as I, as you guys see me smoke.

But I kept finding excuses to like come out and smoke or do something else because I was just like, it was groaning like where it was supposed to be funny.

I tended to groan.

There were a couple of moments where I did laugh and I do think it was slick and well put together.

I did like the design of the mask.

Like I said, the idea is is interesting.

I really don't think we have enough films in that vein.

So yeah, 4.5 is the best I can do on this one.

It it just, it's not for me.

I'm not the intended audience.

I will never watch this again but I will give it 4.5 is a pretty decent score for me.

OK, OK, yeah, I think I thought, I thought you'd like genuinely going into this before I knew anything about what you were going to say.

I genuinely thought this was going to be like a quite a high movie.

For yeah I hate ROM coms.

I, I just thought, I thought you'd like, like the twist of it, like, you know, I thought you'd like that, but it's not.

I thought.

I would like it more.

Yeah, it's not for everyone.

Well, that just leaves myself, and I'm obviously very much more in Jeff's camp with this one.

I think this movie sets out and achieves exactly what it wanted to do.

I is that listen, this movie, when you're making this movie, this is never ever going to be a 10 out of 10 movie because of the style of movie, because of the type of movie is it's just never going to be up there.

But it does everything that you would want from this kind of movie.

I think it goes far enough in all the different aspects.

I think the comedy is there.

I think it goes really OTT at times.

There's some toilet humor in there, you know, with the vibrator joke and stuff like that.

And I'd really enjoy that the ROM caught the Roman.

For that, I'm sorry.

As a woman, they were real for that.

The romantic angle is there and whether or not you really like ROM coms or not, that's like that's literally the whole premise of the movie.

And I think they go far enough into those aspects.

I know you're saying it's really, really cheesy at certain points, but I think they're meaning to be like that because they're trying to make a comment on, like you said, about the cynicism of relationships and social media and influencers and content creators.

And we as podcasters are part of that as well.

You know, we for as much as we don't like to call ourselves, you know, content and creators or influencers, all the things that we do, you know, people listen to our show, people listen to what we have to say and follow us on our socials and like our stuff and things like that.

So we have our own part to play in that as well.

And I think it commented really well on that throughout the movie.

And then I think in terms of like your standard can't be fun slasher movie, it absolutely hits all the notes it needs to hit.

It's got some really creative, gory kills in there.

It's got a pretty sick looking villain.

You've got a villain character who's absolutely eating up the scenery and everything else.

And there's just not really that much in there that I would go back and be like, oh, like that was really disappointing.

I've watched this twice now in the space of less than 24 hours.

And to be honest with you, if I was to go and watch it again, I wouldn't be unhappy about it.

I would quite enjoy it.

And like, I'm never, ever going to sit down and be like, like, what am I going to watch tonight?

Oh fuck yeah.

I'm going to watch Heart eyes.

But you know what?

I'll, I'm going to be 1 of it's going to be one of those movies that I'll Chuck on periodically and just, you know, sit, maybe have a drink, maybe have a smoke, maybe have some food and some snacks and just fucking vegetate to it.

Because honestly, that's the kind of film that I think I'm going to love for stuff like that.

So I'm going to be quite generous to this one Candy.

I'm giving this 8 out of 10.

Oh come on.

Wow.

I also just like you candy increased it by half a point.

I was going to give it a 7.5 but I've talked to myself up half a point so an 8 out of.

We really have switched roles.

We really have.

I will be amazing.

I will be really, really interested to see what Nico will say about it when we get him on the show again next.

Knowing Nico.

He he's probably going to go out of his way to neutralize me.

I, I don't know, I I have a funny feeling.

He's cynical like I am.

I don't know.

I I have a funny feeling that he might just be in your camp with this candy.

Like I just had a funny that.

Would be rare.

I think, I think he might.

I just think he might because sometimes, sometimes he surprises you like that.

That's the beauty.

I think sometimes with Nico, you think you have, you think you have him like pegged and many, many women have, but you think you have him pegged and then all of a sudden he just switches things up.

I thought I was the only subscriber to that Channel, but you know, his subscriber base is growing.

Maybe that's why he couldn't be here tonight.

He had some content to create.

He couldn't be here tonight.

He got an injury after having a vibrator thrown off his head.

But no, I think that this movie, in the same way that Piranha 3D, is not about logic, it's about premise and vibes and energy.

It feels in that same way that that's what they're dedicating themselves to.

And I can't watch my bloody pissed.

Off Ian, but God I gave pieces the highest score.

And that was another one where you and I were together on pieces because I fucking love that movie.

It's obscene, it's ridiculous, it's so much fun.

But.

You don't think it's so interesting how we're so switched on those two like these two movies, like, you know, Yeah.

And realistically, like I get what you just saying like the trash, you know, So this, this is trash.

It's not my kind of trash.

I like the trashiest.

Well, one person's trash is another person's treasure, so.

Given I can't, I can't watch, you know, I can't watch My Bloody Valentine all the time.

And maybe, you know, maybe we're looking to have a fun Valentine's horror to kind of throw on for the vibe for that week or that.

So yeah, no, it's it's.

If you're looking for fun Valentine's horror, what about Valentine from 2001, which had didn't he Switcher?

No, no, not that like.

That movie can get fucked.

I always get it mixed up with Sole Survivor.

Like you put the two, you put the two trailers next to each other and it's like you cut that meme from the Office.

They're the same picture.

Wow.

Given all of our scores, our listeners, our critics, heart eyes, believe it or not, it's the first ever movie to do this.

It scores an average of 6.66 out of 10.

It gets the old 666 treatment and of the now 139 movies that we have reviewed on this podcast, Tart Eyes is in 78th place.

So it's very much middle of the road in there.

Displaced.

Did it displace one of my beloved?

It's one, oh, no, candy, you're going to be so upset.

It's one place above society.

Better movie.

I love society, that movie is great.

It's one place above society.

The two movies above it, Arachnophobia, which you also dislike.

You dislike Candy?

I love Arachnophobia, but ironically the next movie above that, The Faculty.

So you know I.

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Superb.

And because it's obviously broken into our top 100, that means a movie has been relegated out of our top 100 last time on the show.

Candy, it was Terrifier that got relegated out of our top 100.

Do you remember that?

And we were.

OK with that sacrifice because we prefer the other one, so we were all right.

Yeah, that's also true.

I don't think you were so OK with it because it was Halloween 2018, the displaced.

I'm just going to Zen out on that.

And this week, moving out of the top 100 is insidious.

It's now in 101st place.

I don't feel right about that.

You guys, you got some real bangers on this list.

You got some really good movies on this list.

Better film.

We do, I think sometimes like we talk about this, but like, if you look at like the 100 movies that are now above it, you probably would sit there and go, yeah, you know what?

I would rather watch the majority of those other 100 movies.

Obviously not all of them.

But, you know, I think, you know, no one's, no one's picking Insidious over, you know, Alien, you know what I mean?

Or that actually reminds me as well, my other Halloween movie that I'm still to watch is Event Horizon.

So.

Oh God, Event Horizon, that was such a that was an early episode that I did before I was a permanent member.

Man, we fucking God.

Event horizon, I think that.

Movie today.

And it's really, it was always really frustrating because the critics fucking panned the shit out of Event Horizon so good.

And I watch that.

All the time.

It's like my son's favorite movie.

Because like, I've just got it up here because like me, both me and you, Candy gave it 9 and Point Fives and Nico gave it 9.

So obviously like super fucking high in that movie.

I fucking adore Event Horizon.

It's fucking great.

But then you've got like Ron Tomatoes giving it 3.5 and you're like, fuck you guys.

Like what the fuck?

Honestly.

Right.

That movie is great.

That's.

Ludicrous.

It's so good.

It breaks my heart.

100% but yeah, so 78th place for our eyes, honestly, I don't think that's overly upsetting.

It's very it's in the middle there.

I'm really high on it.

I can see why some people might not be It's in some really good company.

Yeah, I'm pretty, I'm pretty happy with it being there.

So and that is it.

That is going to do it for this week's show.

We'll just quickly go through some of the housekeeping Once again, for those of you who have made it this far, if you would like to support Pod of the Damned on any of our social media platforms, please do so.

We're on Facebook threads, Instagram, blue sky, YouTube, TikTok, all at Pod of the Damned.

We're the nominations for our end of year awards are still open guys.

You can still get your some.

That were submitted to me that I I need to give to.

You amazing.

The submissions for nominations for our end of year horror awards are very, very much open and the nominations have been flooding in.

These are things like best horror movie of the year, best directors, lead sporting performer, most unexpected success, our Horror Hall of Fame, and me and you Candy.

We've already had a bit of a disagreement about our Horror Hall of Fame inductees for this year, but I think both of our picks are very, very well deserving of going.

In I think so I think it all worked out.

I think we will be fine in the end.

So please, please do get your nominations in.

Those threads are up and across all of our social media platforms.

Candy, where can you be found?

I'm Candy, the final girl I forgot to mention earlier.

I'm also back on Slasher Woo.

I know no one knows that because he submitted a review for a film we're getting ready to do.

But yeah, it's Candy Final Girl on Slasher, on Instagram, on Threads, on Blue Sky, all of that.

And I'm back and I'm doing a lot of social media again, so you can find me on there.

And I will also be accepting submissions for our awards and just get them to me.

I will get them to Ian and we're excited to get those going.

Yeah, I think one thing I think, and you know, me and Candy, we've been talking about this quite a lot over the past week, you know, in our, in our sort of podcast group chat.

We, we've been very absent on social media for for the past number of months.

And that's for a variety of reasons, health reasons, health stuff, you know, and, you know, family reasons and work and taking one, take some breaks.

I think both of us, Nico is a complete and utter technophobe And, you know, I don't he, you know, so he, he, he can sit there and just, you know, have his two cents.

But I think both me and Candy have made a bit of a sort of commitment that we're going to really try and focus over the next period to really sort of have a presence there again on social media.

So please bear with us while we try and get ourselves back out there a little bit.

But hopefully you will see a lot more of us on your feeds very, very soon.

And finally, Newman, remind everyone, where can your beautiful, gorgeous, stunningly sexy podcast be found?

Well, beautifully gorgeous and stunningly sexy.

I will stay, if only just for you, Ian.

And you can find Movies for Days virtually everywhere podcasts are heard.

You can find all of my episodes very easily searchable at urunpodcast.com.

And I would encourage you to check out more of EU Run Podcast Network members.

There really is something for everybody over there.

I myself am on Twitter at Movies Days as well as the Slasher app and Instagram at Movies 4 days.

And thanks so much again for having me on.

I love talking with you guys, it's always so much.

Fun.

Pleasure, it's always a pleasure.

The pleasure is absolutely all ours.

We're very, very glad that you were able to rejoin us once again.

And Candy, as always, thank you to you for joining me as well.

Glad to be here.

Absolutely.

Up next on the show, we're going back to the Halloween picks and we're going with Candy's Halloween pick next, which is Night of the Demons.

We're going to be talking all about Night of the Demons.

Very, very excited to talk about that.

We also have a top five episode coming out for you very, very shortly, which will be somewhere in between that in October.

It's all about this time our top five final girls.

So that will be very exciting.

And then we will be finishing off spooky season with Niko's horror pick, which we will announce on our Night of the Demons episodes.

Just when everyone thought I was going to tell the secret, I was, I was, I was fabricating it there.

See, I could be a good actor.

I should be in some of these horror movies.

But so I was going to say, oh I'm having surgery.

We are recording on a Sunday a week from tomorrow, which means I will be out of Commission during Halloween unfortunately.

It really sucks for me because it's my favorite holiday surprise.

But knowing me, just like when I had the same surgery on one side in February, I get really bored after a week of just playing video games all day every day every recovering.

So I'm sure I'll be back quickly.

Yeah, and just a.

Couple of episodes.

And obviously we'll talk between now and then as well, and we'll be recording from then and then.

But I'm sure I speak for Nico and the rest of the Pod of the Damned and the Movies for Days family when I say we wish you the very, very best of luck with your surgery and a very, very speedy recovery for when that happens as well.

So.

I'll be on the heavy dip.

I won't know what planned I'm on.

Oh, that's the perfect time to record then, so I'll.

Just be playing video games badly.

Oh well, maybe we can get some of those DVD games in then while you're while you're recovering.

Yeah, Dead by daylight.

You want to play with me when I when I'm not playing well, because otherwise I'll just kick your ass.

Oh, that's fight and talk.

That's fight and talk right there.

I used to play professionally on a league for Call of Duty and I've both left for dead games.

I'm pretty serious about my gaming.

OK, OK.

Well, I'll think about it.

Maybe we should be on the same side.

Yeah, maybe, maybe we should team up like maybe that's a better right.

Teaming up would probably be be the.

Best Anyways, yes, thank you once again to Candy.

Once again, thank you very, very much, Jeff for joining us as well.

Please, please, please go check out the Movies for Day's podcast.

It's an absolutely fantastic show, both myself and Candy.

I've had the honour of guesting on that show as well.

And then happy to come back anytime that you want to talk about a trash movie.

Always.

Welcome, I think.

Thank you so much.

I think if you want to talk a trash movie, Candy, you should go on and talk about heart eyes anyways, right?

Thank you very much.

Once again, thank you to everyone for downloading and listening to this podcast from home.

And until next time on the Pod of the Damned, just remember, you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

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