the last offer, I won't call it, I, I, I am hesitant to even call it an offer that came from their side when it came to the economic elements of the contract was, it was nothing.

And so, I mean, if you haven't been out there to support your local union, like now is the time they're out there on an indefinite strike and Starbucks has not been coming to the table.

and I've been at SBU Starbucks long enough to know that.

A union is one of the only ways that you're ever gonna get treated fairly by a company that will always value money and survive and exist based on capitalism.

I loved drawing cats on everyone's cups when the policy was initially rolled out, and that was my go-to.

And I have been told by management I'm not allowed to do that.

So it does make me sad.

see us, all of us standing up each and every day for our Starbucks colleagues because when we fight, we win.

We fight, we win.

I wanna Oh Chris, before we start, what's everybody drinking?

I'll tell you, it's not Starbucks.

No, it is not Starbucks.

I am drinking a, a very nice, uh, black tea.

I think it's Earl Gray.

Yeah, well, I'm, I'm a coffee drinker but, uh, let me tell you, I am perfectly happy drinking some tea this morning and not hitting a Starbucks when the workers are on strike.

All right.

we not wanna highlight or signify, identify the fact that we've got a whole show dedicated to a very specific theme this week?

I think, I think we just did.

Thank you, Patrick.

What's the name of the show, Chris?

I was just gonna say, I guess that was my cue to say Welcome to the Labor Radio Podcast weekly.

And that is the best, the very best labor coverage, uh, this week, as Patrick pointed out of all of the, uh, the ongoing Starbucks strikes from, uh, a selection of our 200 shows across the network.

So let's, uh, let's give folks a quick preview of, uh, what got in the show this week, Carol.

Well, starting off working people talks with veteran barista and organizer Michelle Eisen, about the urgent new strike wave at Starbucks.

Why workers across the country may be walking out and what the company refuses to address Patrick.

Then we go to work stoppage, which digs into the Red Cup Rebellion, which is the first open-ended Starbucks strike spreading from 40 cities to potentially hundreds more.

And why workers are asking for a full boycott.

Oh yeah, there's a lot more.

Much, much more.

Then we're gonna go to, we Rise Fighting.

just a great name for a podcast.

Can I just, mm-hmm.

Little sidebar there.

Madison Barista and Organizer Joanna talks about why the Red Cup Day matters, the movement behind the strike, and how community care and union solidarity are shaping the struggle on the ground.

But wait, there's more.

There's always more on the Labor Notes Podcast.

Baristas describe Impossible Time Standing baristas describe Impossible Time standards, understaffing safety threats, and the corporate cup writing mandates that optimize what's broken inside Starbucks stores today.

That's Epitomize Harold, I think it's optimizing.

Alright, fine.

And the corporate cup writing mandates that epitomize what's broken inside Starbucks stores today.

Finally, on WBA is what's going on.

Juliana Ano presents a FT President Randy Winegarten.

New York Assembly member Claire Valdez and striking baristas on the picket lines in Brooklyn, part of the escalating National Showdown with Starbucks.

Alright, folks, it's our all Starbucks show, except we're not drinking Starbucks.

Let's get to the clips.

No contract, no coffee.

All right.

Welcome everyone to Working People, a podcast about the lives, jobs, dreams, and struggles of the working class today.

My name is Maximilian Alvarez and we've got an urgent episode for y'all today.

By the time you hear this, Starbucks workers in over 25 cities across the country may be on strike.

So to talk about all of this, I am honored to be joined on the show today by Michelle Eisen again.

Michelle is a 15 year veteran barista and a spokesperson for Starbucks Workers United in 2021.

Michelle and her coworkers in Buffalo, New York formed the first Starbucks Labor Union.

In the United States.

Michelle, thank you so much for joining us today.

I really appreciate it.

I want to just kind of start with where we are right here, right now.

We're recording on Tuesday, November 11th.

The strike date is set for later this week.

Tell listeners more about, you know, what they may be seeing this week, where this strike is coming from, and what it tells us about the State of the Union struggle at Starbucks.

Thanks so much for having me.

So, uh, last week we announced that 92% of union workers, uh, voted to authorize a strike.

Should the company not respond to our, our multiple requests, uh, for them to return to the bargaining table with new proposals that will address the outstanding issues, um, mainly.

More take home, pay for workers, better hours to fix the staffing chronic understaffing in our stores and to resolve the numerous, you said it, hundreds of unresolved unfair labor practice charges that are still hanging over their heads.

Um, Starbucks is the largest labor violator of modern history that is undisputable.

Um, and it's.

It's hard to be a worker working in those conditions, right when you actually have to be afraid of your, your employer continually violating your rights.

Um, so we have made multiple requests for them to return to the table with these new proposals that will help settle these issues since, um.

Labor relations kind of broke down last December.

Um, they have failed to respond in, in any meaningful way and really in any way at all.

You know, they instead continue to misrepresent what the, the union's demands are.

I think it's absolutely comical that 65% number that they've arrived at, they literally took.

All of this potential options that we presented them with last October.

Um, we were like, Hey, we could do this, or we could do this and this, or we could do just this.

Either way, what we're trying to do here is, is get more, take home pay in these workers' pockets, right?

Um, they added them all together and came up with that number.

That's like going into a restaurant, that's like going into a Starbucks, adding together every single menu item and then being like, whoa, it costs a thousand dollars to eat here.

Like, that's not, that's they, and they know that it's disingenuous.

It's, it's actually just, it's a, an actual misrepresentation of what went on in bargaining.

It sounds like right now we're not, the strike isn't hinging on kind of some nitpicky details on a couple proposals.

Like it sounds like Starbucks isn't responding to like any of these proposals.

The, the last offer, I won't call it, I, I, I am hesitant to even call it an offer that came from their side when it came to the economic elements of the contract was, it was nothing.

They said no, they didn't engage with a single potential solution or proposal to what we were, we were offering.

They said the, our, our rep reply is zero increase for the first year of the contract.

It's a very un that's an, that's a not an offer.

That's an unserious response to what is going on here, and what we're engaging in is very.

Serious.

It is the difference between a worker being able to pay their rent and buy groceries or having to make the choice between the two.

Um, we need serious, mean, serious offers that have serious solutions.

All right, gang, that's gonna wrap things up for us this week.

I want to thank our guest, Michelle Eisen, a 15 year veteran barista and a spokesperson for Starbucks, workers United, who formed the first Starbucks Labor Union in the United States with her coworkers in Buffalo, New York back in 2021.

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All right.

Next up, the crew at Work Stoppage breaks down Starbucks Workers.

United's first open-ended strike.

Now active at.

Dozens of stores, heck of a lot more than that, and poised to spread.

They connect the dots between chronic understaffing dangerous workloads and the nationwide call for a full Starbucks boycott.

Welcome to your favorite labor show, everybody.

The show is called Work Stoppage.

My name is John.

I'm Dan.

And I'm Lena, well, shifting to our first story, the Red Cup Rebellion is on, as we've been covering the windup for this or the, the lead up to this.

As promised, last week on Thursday, Starbucks Workers United started their first open-ended strike, similar to the standup strike method.

Uh, this has started in over 40 cities and at 65 locations, but up to 550 locations could still be called on at any point in this work or action.

And they've actually been really amping up that rhetoric.

I was just, I mean, I wrote this, uh, this summary the other day and I was just checking it again today, and they are saying we are just like.

Days away from escalating, but over the duration of this strike, Starbucks, workers United is asking that no one actually buy anything from the Starbucks company.

And it wasn't like explicitly stated, but I, I think it really includes also their retail products that they sell in other places like grocery stores and gas stations.

So if you see anything labeled Starbucks, no purchasing, full boycott, you know, none, none of that stuff.

And while this strike was going to happen this holiday season due to Starbucks's failure to actually live up to their promise out of bargaining with the workers.

There are a few things this year that have gotten the workers really mad.

I mean, besides Brian Nichol getting paid 6,666 times more than the media and Starbucks worker, the new initiative to speed up service while simultaneously increasing the workload of baristas and decreasing staffing, hasn't only really been widely noticed by Starbucks workers themselves, but has actually been no noticed.

Quite a bit by customers who have pointed, who have reported these problems.

The Strategic Organizing Center released a new report that said that 86% of surveyed customers say that wait times have gotten worse or stayed the same in recent times, and that 97% of mobile orders are slow or slower than before.

And I know that we could have easily predicted this since we have reported on these harsh overwork of baristas for a long time and during labor intensification, like you just can't expect better results despite, you know, the capitalists saying that that is, that's how we make things efficient, is just by working people harder and harder.

I mean, hell, 54% of people said that they would be willing to go to Starbucks more if they had actually staffed their stores more adequately.

And 33% of customers in this report say that they have.

Consistently had to wait in long lines.

So I can't imagine that like that Starbucks themselves aren't seeing these kind of catastrophic failures that they're doing, which to me means they're actually not worried about it.

They're doing exactly what they intended to do.

Well, the other thing too is that like.

I think it's important to point out those, those issues that you highlight, like the, the, you know, people frustrated about like how long it takes to get stuff.

Um, and also like things like the price of stuff at Starbucks and, 'cause you see, especially if you look at any of these posts on Twitter and you see all the fucking like bots and reactionary freaks who, who reply to them and attack the workers always be like, oh, you're going on strike for $10 coffee, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Motherfucker.

The reason the coffee is so expensive is because they're paying this shit, bird Brian nickel a hundred million dollars.

If you didn't do that, then the prices wouldn't be going up all the time.

And it's the workers going on strike that are trying to make the place better, that are trying to make it so you don't have to wait in line for a million years because they actually staff the place properly.

I'm personally very glad to see that this is an open-ended strike and I'm really excited to see the next escalation that comes from the workers.

And so, I mean, if you haven't been out there to support your local union, like now is the time they're out there on an indefinite strike and Starbucks has not been coming to the table.

And as much as, uh, this is going to succeed, it's gonna take a little bit of time.

So.

Head out there today, head out there tomorrow.

I mean, there are gonna be folks on strike and they need your support.

Well, and like go, go be a part of something, you know, for your own wellbeing.

Yeah.

Go, go experience and witness and contribute to something that's actually good because they've already come so far.

I went out to the, our workers here at the, the local store in Providence were on strike last year around, uh, Christmas on, I think on Christmas Eve, and I went out and, and hung out with them on the picket line.

It was a fucking great time.

Mm-hmm.

Go do it.

They're great people.

Yeah, absolutely.

Listen to Terminal World and as always, labor peace is not in our interest and solidarity forever.

Solidarity.

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One of the things I love about the Starbucks campaign is that you have literally hundreds of spokespeople bringing slight variations in their perspective and on on Rer fighting, we hear from another activist, another member of the union, Joanna, a six year barista who shares white Red Cup Day is such a powerful day for strike action and how community relationships and organizing go hand in hand.

Hello listeners.

This is the hundred and 25th episode of We Rise Fighting Podcast.

That's right, 125 episodes right now.

We thank everyone for listening.

Uh, we've been here since January of 2022.

So, uh, we met, um, Joanna on an informational picket line listeners at Starbucks store on State Street in Madison.

And, uh, welcome to We Rise Fighting Labor Podcast, Joanna.

Yes, thank you for having me.

It's great to be here.

And so we'll start with, uh, there's strikes going on all over the country right now as we're talking.

So, what's going on around the country?

Why is Starbucks workers striking?

Yeah, so Starbucks workers are currently on strike.

It started on the 13th for the Red Cup Rebellion, which if you don't know, red Cup Day is a historically busy day for the company where you get a free red plastic cup with purchase of a holiday drink.

It brings in.

Tons of customers and often stores are here, find themselves short, staffed and stressed.

And that's partially the reason why they're going on strike this day.

You know, it takes a lot of money away from the company, but it also shows the company that historic understaffing and labor violations are something that the workers can actually do something about.

Um, so we have stores striking indefinitely that started on Red Cup Day and.

The movement is just growing from there.

Joanna, what about you yourself?

Do you come from a family of union members or anything like that?

What, what kind of first got you active in this?

Yeah, so I've actually been at Starbucks for like six years.

My mom used to do, um.

You know, mine are teaching.

So it's like, very much so.

I've been in Madison for long enough where I remember the teachers going on strike, even though I, my mom was not currently teaching then, like it's big labor household in my family.

Um, know we have a lot of support for that kind of stuff.

Um, yeah, just being in Madison itself has definitely raised me to be a union person.

Madison's definitely a union town.

Um, and I've been at SBU Starbucks long enough to know that.

A union is one of the only ways that you're ever gonna get treated fairly by a company that will always value money and survive and exist based on capitalism.

So we were out on the picket line.

Practice picket last month and Rick and I talk here a lot on the show about how the struggle changes us so for you, or any previous actions that.

Uh, that really changed you or helped you, uh, evolve as a union leader and, um, activist at, uh, Starbucks or even in the community?

Yeah, I think this is really unique to my store.

Um, my store has a lot of regulars and a lot of people.

In the community who are unhoused.

And I think being around them and gaining those connections with them, um, and learning how much I can try to support them from even a role such as barista.

Um.

Has actually taught me a lot about like what community care can be and can look like.

It's sometimes as simple as showing up or listening, um, listening to what you might be able to help with in the future.

You know, like paying attention, just giving people that time and space, um, and you know, to make you make them feel like that you care.

And I think this has been, it's been a great experience for me, like on a.

Human to human like level on a community level.

But also like with organizing, it's, there's a lot of it is just showing up and just trying your best for others, for yourself listening.

Um, and it's a lot more than people think.

You know?

It's not just, oh, I show up for a couple hours and I'm just walking around screaming.

You know?

It's a lot of.

What are you going through?

What are, what are your issues?

What are your struggles?

Awesome.

Love it.

Thank you, Joanna.

Thank you for being on the show.

Thank you for having me.

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And then from Labor Notes.

Yay.

Labor Notes.

Workers talk candidly about corporate Speedups Impossible drink time metrics.

You gotta hear this to believe at people safety concerns and the bizarre, and that is a really good name for it.

The Bizarre Cup Writing mandates, mandates that ignore the real staffing crisis.

Sabina from Columbus It gives a ground level view of how these policies endanger baristas every day.

Who knew that being a barista could be a dangerous occupation?

Well, this is one of the things that ticks me off though.

You see a lot of people responding to the Starbucks strike saying it doesn't take any skill to pour coffee.

And the reality is, people who work at Starbucks, they're not just pouring coffee out of a pot.

They're running around like crazy behind those counters trying to make all kinds of different complicated drinks.

And then on top of it, corporate makes them write things on the cups in a particular way.

It's just nuts.

One word for it.

You are listening to the Labor Notes Podcast, our weekly show on rank and file news and organizing tactics.

I'm Danielle Smith, an organizer at Labor Notes.

And I'm Natasha Elena Yulman, a staff writer at Labor Notes.

Our coworker, Jenny Brown, is here with us today, in her piece last month titled Strike Captains and Practice Pickets.

Starbucks Workers Aim to Bring a Contract home.

She reported on how Starbucks Workers United members have now been conducting practice pickets at hundreds of stores.

And not only do we have Jenny with us here today, we also have Sabina Aguire of Starbucks, workers United, who works at Starbucks in Columbus, Ohio.

Welcome, Sabina and Jenny.

Thank you both for being here.

I'm so happy to be here.

Hi.

Can you tell me a little bit about the time standards for how fast an order is supposed to be filled now?

Yeah.

My store is in drive-through, but I believe for drive-through stores they were given four minutes to get drinks out.

Though you should verify that with someone else who works at a drive-through store.

And for our in-store orders, we have 12 minutes, so that's uh, 12 minutes for mobile orders.

And then I believe it's around.

Five minutes for in-store orders.

Now, this all sounds great at practice, right?

Everybody wants to get their drinks out fast, and I would say that all baristas also wanna get your drinks out fast.

But when you're putting in these time constraints, but not giving people adequate staffing, it's kind of just an uphill battle for us constantly to get to these metrics that they're ever changing and ever heightening.

It's really setting us up for a fight we can never win, and it feels like we're constantly being put on the backend and made to do more with less.

Yeah.

I mean, how does that play out in practice trying to meet these expectations?

Yeah, in practice it not only leads to frustration from customers, but at times it can even endanger workers.

I know workers at my store have faced direct threats to their personal safety regarding things like times for orders and regarding things like the new policies with bathrooms and water cups.

These things are putting real partners in danger.

And it's honestly super frustrating as someone in the store on a day-to-day basis, um, to see the fact that no matter how much every Starbucks worker complains about their job, and every Starbucks worker recognizes the fact that the job is hard, corporate seems to ignore that.

And, um, assume that by placing a time constraint on things, it'll automatically solve the problem when in reality, as we all know, staffing fixes these issues.

Nothing else.

I've talked to a lot of Starbucks workers who talk about the cup writing policy as really being kind of crazy.

Like you're preparing 80 drinks an hour maybe in, in kind of during a rush period.

And you are supposed to write a heartfelt message on each one of those.

Just wanna, um, see what that looks like in your store.

And also like is management enforcing that you have to write on every cup.

I think that with this Cup policy, it's just a testament to the fact that things are going backwards at Starbucks under Brian Nickel.

The fact that our staffing and operations have just gotten worse from this policy and the fact that they claim that this is bringing us back to the old Starbucks, when in reality, I know for most cups I write Yum or Enjoy or just a smiley face on all of 'em.

And I'm sure you guys have seen on social media people saying, oh, these Starbucks workers look tired of writing on cups because they're posting that exact same thing.

It's, it's really impossible to write a custom message on every single cup, and I think Starbucks also recognizes that based on the fact that my team at my store was given a list of phrases to put on cups and.

I'm not saying that they're AI generated.

What I am saying is if you were to say they were AI generated, I probably wouldn't argue too hard.

Um, it, it was things that no real human would ever say, and it really does show that lack of connection between the bourgeoisie and the working class.

Right.

Um, they don't understand what an average worker's conversation is to one another and.

Putting these corporatized phrases on there isn't really going to make anyone's day better.

If anything, seeing those would make me think that's ridiculous.

Why would I drink this drink?

This is, this is nonsense on my cup.

You've written nonsense here.

Um, so yeah, I, I think it's really just a testament to the fact that that's not what anyone wants.

People want a cheaper drink, they don't want somebody to write yum or a smiley face on every single cup.

And also just a personal grievance of mine.

They censor our cup writing.

They censor our cup writing.

Guys, we're not allowed to draw animals.

We're not allowed to draw, uh, anything political, but also not any pop culture.

So things like slay or any sort of like pop culture phrase you can't write, which, okay, that can be misconstrued, but I, I'm biased.

I, I loved drawing cats on everyone's cups when the policy was initially rolled out, and that was my go-to.

And they did take my cat away from me.

And I have been told by management I'm not allowed to do that.

So it does make me sad.

And I'd also say I've never seen my manager write on most cups, so I, I don't know if that's a policy that's enforced for everyone or just a policy enforced for the average barista.

Savina, thank you so much for being here.

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And let's wrap up our Starbucks strike coverage with WBAI and what's going on where Juliana foro brings us to the picket lines in Brooklyn, where Starbucks Workers United is joined by a FT President, Randy Winegarten and State Assembly member.

Claire Valdez.

It's a powerful snapshot of the Red Cup Rebellion as part of a broader labor movement.

Good morning.

Good morning.

Good morning.

New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, long Island, Staten Island, even.

Good morning to everyone listening across the country and across the world.

I'm Juliana Forlano.

This is what's going on.

I'm WBA, so nationwide, A major escalation in the Starbucks labor fight is underway today and this week.

More than 1000 union baristas have launched an open-ended strike.

They're calling the Red Cup Rebellion, which is a coordinated, unfair labor practice strike hitting the company on one of its busiest promotional days of the year.

We have some exclusive clips right here on WBAI from the action that happened right here, very close to home.

I love how the local is national.

The national is local, uh, right here in Brooklyn.

We have a clip of yesterday's action where Randy Weingarten first, let's go to that one where Randy Weingarten from the a FT is speaking.

Try me.

You wanna hear us say it loud enough that Mr.

Nichol stops nicking and diving our braces.

No contract don't.

No contract, no walk, no contract.

No call me.

And I wanna see us, all of us standing up each and every day for our Starbucks colleagues because when we fight, we win.

We fight, we win.

I think it's absolutely beautiful to see, uh, labor organizers who might not have a lot of skin in the game standing up for each other's work.

We also have a clip of assembly member Claire Veldez from District 37 here.

Let's go to that.

What's disgusting?

Union?

Get what's disgusting?

Union Get bus ez.

I'll keep it quick.

I have lost count of the number of times I've been in a Starbucks picket line and I'm never more proud to do it.

This a unit chair of local 2110 and so I know what it's like to organize against terrible, terrible bosses.

I say that solidarity do every single Starbucks worker and I wanna just give you your flowers because your fight is, every single worker's fight.

When you fight for your trans coworkers to have healthcare, that is everyone's fight.

When you organize for Palestinian human rights, that is everyone's fight.

There are so.

Your bravery, your tenacity, and demanding exactly what you are owed.

Bare wages, safe working conditions, and real dignity on the job inspires me every single day.

I are we going to let them win?

We going to stay out here until we have the contract that we deserve.

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

I'm not gonna mess it up.

No contracts.

No.

No contracts, no coffee.

Holiday forever.

Beautiful.

Beautiful.

You know.

As an a historian of Italian American descent where I study Italian culture, it's worth remembering that Starbucks itself was founded on a trip to Italy.

Stick with me here.

Listen to this tie.

Howard Schultz, of course, famously walked into a Milan espresso bar in the early 1980s, watch baristas who were treated as skilled professionals, respected, trained central to the culture, and he brought that model back to the United States.

He said he wanted to recreate the Italian sense of dignity and craft around coffee.

But here's the irony.

The very regions of Italy that inspired Starbucks, especially in the in industrial North, from Turin to Milan to Genoa, were also the historic heart of the labor movement.

This was the first place of some of Europe's strongest unions, the site of worker uprisings, general strikes, and the modern idea that workers deserve real power, real voice, and real economic security.

Italian baristas were respected because Italian workers organized, fought, and won those rights.

So today's Red Cup rebellion isn't some fringe action.

It's actually closer to the original spirit of the coffee culture.

Starbucks claimed as its inspiration, workers demanding dignity, fair treatment, and a say in how their labor is values.

In a way, the barista striking today are bringing back, you know, bringing Starbucks back to its roots.

Not the marketing version, but the reality.

Coffee culture is labor culture, and labor.

Culture is union culture, thanks everyone for listening.

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Power to the workers and their unions.

Alright, now time for drum roll, please.

Shows you should know.

Look folks, there is other stuff going on besides the Starbucks strike and you can believe our labor radio show and podcast producers are talking about it.

That's why we've got this speed round where we highlight some of the other shows you should know.

First up, rusty discusses politicians on both sides of the aisle who claim to be pro worker, but support right to work laws on the wealthy iron worker.

Then on from a to arbitration, the CCA corner shares tips and tricks for letter carriers working in the cold.

And let me tell you, even if you're not a letter carrier, you could probably benefit from some of these tricks 'cause it's getting cold out there.

Also Dominique Carmen shares how her experiences in the cannabis industry, mental health spaces and UFCW have shaped her professional journey and personal path to healing on rework radio.

Historian and former UAW organizer Rudy Batel explains how the failure of land reform and slavery and employs use of racial division and strike breaking shaped the early US labor movement on labor history today.

We picked that up from someplace else, didn't we?

That was originally on America's Workforce Union podcast.

Flash is the interviewer.

Great.

Just wanted to credit our colleagues there.

I, I don't, I don't mind stealing.

I just like to make sure I, I get proper credit when we do.

Alright.

Uh, hey, that's not like what we're supposed to do in the AI age.

What are you talking about?

It's all human.

All human all the time.

Uh, not, not actually, but anyway, Ted.

Talks with Duncan.

So Haman about the issues teachers deal with at basis, the first organized charter school in Arizona and what the union has been able to accomplish in the last two years.

And Harold?

I was just gonna say, you know they said you could never organize a charter school.

Just like they said you could never organize a shop like Starbucks.

So you're saying they were wrong.

They were wrong.

Okay.

All right.

Just wanted to get that out there.

All right.

And I think, uh, Harold, you got something special for us today.

Yeah, you know, we wanna make a special shout out to Concrete Gangs Gorilla.

He's retiring and has served as the host of the show for the last time this week.

But let me tell you, those folks are gonna keep the show going and they're gonna try and honor his legacy by being as kooky and wild as they can.

I love that show.

Mm-hmm.

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Hell yeah, it is.

I should just always pause 'cause I know you're always gonna jump in.

You know I am.

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Um, so question.

I can't remember what we decided to do about the show next week.

next week being Thanksgiving week, we're going to take the week off and so there's not gonna be a weekly it's, it's a union break is what it is.

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I dunno if you had a chance to listen to them.

But for five Starbucks shows, they were all really different.

I mean, you had like, you're sort of editorializing by work star pitch.

You had Michelle, who's kind of the original organizer at the sort of leadership level.

You had two really sort of rank and file voices and then you had the street protest and it was Yeah, I will be honest.

I was a little worried that we would get same, same, same.

And it's not, and I, I think that is a tribute to the network.

To the show.

So the diversity of the shows that they could talk about the same actual thing, but in a bunch of different ways.

I, I'm, I'm actually excited about that.

I tried to, I mean, I tried to edit it to cover different perspectives too.

Like Sabina talked about speed ups, and.

Label writing, you know, so Right.

So we're sort of emphasizing the differences, but still I was try, yeah.

I tried to bring out some of the sort of distinctions and cut down on the explanations of like by the second, you know, already that there's a Red Cut Rebellion, Tarbucks workers account, you know.

Yeah, but I think it really shows the strength of the network, where even with a single story, there's a lot of diversity in how they talk about it, and that's one of the things that we get to highlight in the show.

In fact, Chris, you should probably put this at the tail of the show because this is a really good little roundup.

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Read my mind.

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