because there's so little civic engagement, when you actually build a grassroots democratic movement, Hmm.

It suddenly carries far more power than anyone, including the powerful expect.

put me in, coach.

I'll join up.

I'll be the mayor effort.

I'll join the Risi regime.

We'll work as what were we gonna work, uh, as re educators?

I don't think it's fair that our members have to go to food banks and wait in line and food banks to feed their children when they're working full time.

you begin to ask yourself like, what is it all worth?

Does any of this even matter?

you no longer feel joy upon seeing, you know, and being able to pet one of your favorite dogs on the route.

For me to be the first second generation president of the union, it takes everything that's led up to it.

All the wonderful opportunities that I've had and the work that I've done and everything else, it sort of frames it in a different way.

All right.

Are we good to go?

Yeah.

All right.

And check, check, check, check.

Everybody.

Sounds good.

In three, two.

One.

You know what, Chris?

You're exhausted.

Let me take this from the Labor Radio Podcast Network.

This is the Labor Radio Podcast weekly, bringing you the voices of working people one show at a time.

I'm Chris Garlock.

No, I'm not.

That's your section.

I'm Harold Phillips.

I'm pretty sure.

I'm Chris Garlock.

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I'm not Harold Phillips, and you're definitely not Chris Garlock.

All right.

we've got grassroots victories, we've got artistic rebellion, we've got worker struggles, and just for the heck of it, we've got union leadership all across the labor airwaves.

Can we really say airwaves?

I mean, a lot of these are podcasts.

Well, anyways, from Cincinnati's boiling point, we're going to hear how civic engagement and grassroots democracy are reshaping the political map.

then the art and labor team bring us an election night report live from the streets of Brooklyn on their way to the Boris concert, the Boris concert.

Who's Boris?

They some, some musical act, but they were really excited about seeing them apparently.

Yeah.

I, so I am so, so out of it.

All right.

We head next west, always west to Montana, blue Collar news, which I think is new.

I had to go find the graphic for this one, right.

Harold New this week.

We are so excited to have this new show from the Montana A-F-L-C-I-O on the Labor Radio Podcast network roster.

And they're reporting from the front lines of the just concluded longest ever federal government shut down and how it hit working families and next generation carriers is going to explore burnout amongst postal workers.

And let's be honest, I think we can all relate to a little burnout.

Mm-hmm.

What it feels like, how it happens, and what solidarity can do about it.

And let me get this right.

Finally on the SAG after podcast, they have Sean Aston, well known for Rudy and Lord of the Rings.

Anyway, Sean has grabbed the brass ring and taken on the role of new president of the Union following in the path of his mother, Patty Duke.

Harold, you must be excited.

Yes.

Let me tell you, I was at convention a couple of weeks ago, the SAG after National Convention, Sean Aston.

He's actually as nice a guy as you think he is.

Oh, I love that.

I love that.

That's, it was a nice one.

That's the case.

All right, folks, that's all coming up on this week's Labor Radio Podcast weekly.

Stay tuned and let's hear what working people are talking about.

Are you all listening to the beat in your head?

It's good beef.

Wanted to get the ring ping in.

You get it?

They grab the bra ring and the Lord.

Yeah, I got it.

Alright folks.

We're starting in Cincinnati with Boiling Point and host Michelle Dunn Talks with live Merrill of DSA Cincinnati about Zoran mom dummies, which says here, upset mell victory.

I don't think it was so much of an upset.

The primary was an upset.

The general.

A little a a, I wouldn't call it, it was a squeaker.

I think we could say it was a squeaker.

I think Andrew Cuomo was upset.

For the record.

That is very much fair.

All right.

Also how grassroots democracy still still has the power to surprise the powerful.

Speaking of Andrew Cuomo, although I don't think he's so powerful anymore, but anyway, not so much.

Welcome to 88.3 W-A-I-F-F-M.

You are listening to Boiling Point News and views of working families Struggling for justice around the city, around the country, around the world.

I'm your host, Michelle Dunn, proud member of CFT Local 1520.

Okay folks.

Um, we're listening to Zoan Mom's Victory Speech in New York City after he just won the mayor's race a couple nights ago against Andrew Cuomo.

And we're here with Liv Merrill with DSA Cincinnati chapter.

Um.

So good to have you on the show, boiling Point, Liv.

Alright, so let's, um, you know, we, we would love to, we're, we're fangirling right now of this speech, I think, right?

Absolutely.

Like together.

Um, this speech has got some really great moments and we gotta touch on a couple more, but let's just get back to the discussion about the sim, like the transformative moment that this feels like in this country.

With that win against the context of also a lot of other wins for Democrats, you know, blue Democrats, there was, um, the, you know, the Virginia State House.

Uh, gained a bunch of Democratic seats.

We have, uh, two new governor, women governors, I think.

Mm-hmm.

Of, um, we, uh, California passed Prop 50, which was a, a way ly to protect against gerrymandering to get Trump more seats.

But, you know, what else do you, how to you, how is this moment.

How meaningful is this moment?

This is, I think, a proof of a concept that started very early on as DSA began reorganizing itself in the post 2016 period after Trump got elected, uh, for those unfamiliar DSA, uh, started in the year 2015 with about 5,000 members.

Um, and shortly after Trump was elected, immediately bounded up to 20,000 members.

And I can tell you today that New York City DSA has passed 11 and a half thousand members, which is more than double what the entire membership of DSA was across the country just 10 years ago.

Mm-hmm.

And one of the really important.

Discussions that happened early in DSA was this idea that was expressed by one member of the organization that was in New York City, uh, Michael Kan.

And he talked about one of the real tragedies of US society is that grassroots democratic civic life had disappeared from the us.

Hmm.

Most things had fallen to corporate power, like control by like major elites influencing decisions.

But one of the side effects of this is because there's so little civic engagement, when you actually build a grassroots democratic movement, Hmm.

It suddenly carries far more power than anyone, including the powerful expect.

Uh, the idea that he suggested was if you can get 40 people into a DSA meeting in any location in the country, you probably have.

Potentially one of the most powerful political organizations that exists anywhere in your city.

And well, we see this in like this year.

Yeah.

In February, 2025, Zoran in the Democratic primary was pulling it 1% in the Emerson polls.

Okay.

And he surged forward, not from like, anything that was just pure coincidence, but from having strong demands and like a powerful volunteer army behind him that believed that this agenda needed to happen.

And that volunteer army is in many ways the real story of the Zorron victory.

Yes.

And what makes it stand out as a political moment, right.

I mean, because, you know, like he said in the opening speech, they have toppled a dynasty, right?

Name recognition, I mean the, the Cuomo name, you know, um, and also just all the, um, billionaire support of Cuomo.

But like we always like to say.

Elect at elections, we don't count dollars.

We count votes.

Right, right.

And so the, and and Zoran in his acceptance speech throughout, he honors all the people who showed up.

Um.

To help him to get to where he's at.

Of course.

'cause that's what, like you said, is what made the difference is this grassroots, um, you know, thousands of people knocking doors, making phone calls.

Well listen folks, you've been listening to Boiling Point and he's been listening to Liv Merrill with DSA Cincinnati.

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Okay, let's stick with the election and go to Brooklyn where Art and Labor co-hosts.

Okay.

Fox and Nas wander the street on election night blending humor, politics, and cultural critique as they unpack what artists and organizers are feeling before the results and in the wake of the results because they kinda recorded the whole night and it's a wild ride.

Guys, trust me.

One of your favorite shows, Harold, love that show.

I don't always know what they're talking about by you.

Just you're, you're going along for the ride, man.

You're going along for the ride.

Yep.

Um, hello everybody and welcome to another reporting episode of Art and Labor.

Um, I'm your host.

Okay, Fox and with me is my cohost, NAS Nas.

Hello.

Hey, how's everybody going?

We are currently walking down, what is this?

Jackson Street, not Avenue.

Um, and we are headed to the Boris concerts.

So come with us on Ani election night.

Are are the, Boris is gonna shut out Ani?

Um, is that what the Boris are going to do?

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's a night of suspense, mystery, intrigue.

But, uh, yeah, so, so far quiet on these, uh, Brooklyn streets, no, uh, fights, no Nazi rallies did see the Sliwa signs and the old Italian delis.

Um, that makes sense.

It makes sense.

This neighborhood mathematically doesn't matter.

Who cares?

Who cares about this?

Who cares?

Yes.

Um, they'll get with the program later.

They're just dummies, dummy Republicans.

Well, I mean, you know, it becomes just the, like, they've done it this way.

They've always done it this way.

Why would they change?

Why would they do anything different?

Who cares about the little guy I got mine?

Put me in, coach.

I'll join up.

I'll be the mayor effort.

I'll join the Risi regime.

We'll work as what were we gonna work, uh, as re educators?

Yeah.

Yeah.

We were gonna, um, make it so like I could work at a museum, um, in an ethical and non-moral dilemma way.

Mm-hmm.

Um, we could potentially, uh, abolish traditional schooling and teach people through these beautiful museums.

Though of course, we have to be careful about what we teach because museums can also be, uh, tools of colonial and.

Capitalist empire.

I mean, usually they are so we, we have to be careful is what I'm saying.

Nope.

Over here.

Oh, I see where we, I see it now.

She ran a super, I see it in a distance.

She ran a super popular leftist podcast, Uhhuh and, and the Zoran was on and you just let him get away with the really shitty, terrible answer he got that pissed me off and he had a really bullshit non answerer bad answer for the Tisch James thing because, and Tisch James is really crazy 'cause she's like a plutocrat.

Fascist.

Right.

Really dangerous, terrible person.

Would, do you think you'd ask a follow up question?

Y'all are passing shit around a terrible answer that Zoran gave.

I don't, it's not a priority to these people.

It's not a priority to these people.

They're petite bourgeois.

I just work for the city.

I don't, I'm just asking questions.

Right, right.

I don't know about follow ups or anything.

I think that.

Softball, softball interview.

Well, I mean, and that's the thing.

All these interviews always are softball because that's not the, that you're not selling.

The policy, you're selling the person.

Yeah.

And if, and people went for it, hook line and sicker, like, oh, you know, I mean that, that's it.

Like, no, no wonder Mom, Donny is doing the scavenger hunts and things like that.

I support him if that's, you know, of course this is the kind of stuff you have to do.

It's cover military training.

Right, right.

I'm on board, you know, I don't have an issue with it.

It's just like, no, this is what we are being, this is what we are being fed, so.

I take it, it, it might be a, the best chance we got though, huh?

For a lot of stuff.

Oh yeah.

Absolutely.

I'd mean absolutely like that's it.

If this is what it takes to get people, it's just too important.

They were just challenging us just to, to do something.

'cause they, they threw Cuomo in on purpose.

They had, we had to sharpen our teeth on.

Well, yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, there'll be so much more blood to be had.

I mean, I kind of feel like they, this is it.

It is the, I believe, I believe Dan, did you see that?

Uh, de Blassio was, uh, wearing a shirt, uh, that says Hot Girls for Zar, how she's transitioning.

That's how she announced her transition.

Congrats to her.

Congrats to her.

Okay.

Be back later for the results Just upload it as it, I don't upload it as it, I That's the election special.

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Out in Montana, back to Montana, blue Collar News host Jason and A FGE.

Local 4,012, president Jordan Harwell discusses the personal toll of the government shutdown as social security employees keep working full-time, but without pay.

I mean, say what you want to about the end of the shutdown, at least paychecks are finally gonna go out, right?

Mm-hmm.

Well, good afternoon everybody.

We're, um, filming out a beautiful Helena, Montana today.

It's been quite a while since we've done any updates, but, uh, today we're bringing you the Blue Cutler News.

And we have a FGE 40 12 4 0 1 2.

Local President Jordan Harwell, based outta Butte, Montana.

And uh, he'll be doing the show with us today.

And hopefully, we'll, we'll get some questions answered and, uh, everybody will have a little more information.

By the time we're.

Go ahead, Jordan.

Yes.

Thank you, Jason, for the, uh, invitation, um, to, uh, participate in this podcast today.

Uh, yeah.

My name is Jordan Harwell and I'm local president of American Federation of Government Employees, uh, A FGE, local 40 12.

Um, and I'm based here in, uh, Butte, Montana.

And our local represents, uh, social Security employees in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, North Dakota, South Dakota, and right here in Montana.

So tell me, how's the, uh, how's the shutdown the federal government shutdown impacted your membership?

Well, it's been very difficult, um, for many of our members, particularly the, uh, financial impacts, uh, that the shutdown has had.

Uh, now most of our membership have been accepted from the shutdown, uh, AKA, meaning that they're working, um, full-time without pay.

Uh, now that situation has caused the, uh.

Significant hardship for many.

Um, you know, you're talking about, I mean, this coming, uh, uh, Friday is going to be the second full, um, paycheck that our members have missed, um, during this time.

So in the last paycheck that was received was partial, um, I mean, it was light, it was missing, you know, three full days.

So now you're running into a situation where.

Um, many of our members are working full-time, um, going to work every day but aren't getting a paycheck.

I mean, obviously this is having a very difficult, um, this is very challenging for many, uh, myself included.

I mean, I'd be remiss to say I've had to call my, um, mortgage lender, uh, to try to get an extension on paying that.

Um, you know, but an entire month at this point without a paycheck, um, you know, while you're still going to work all, uh, full time for many, um, it's been extremely challenging.

Uh, and I think it's, you know, it's fundamentally unfair because here's the thing.

As our members are working hard to get, um, people their earned benefits while their own financial situations suffer.

Um, you know, I don't think it's fair that our members have to go to food banks and wait in line and food banks to feed their children when they're working full time.

Um, they should be getting a paycheck for their work, um, in this disruption and pay has caused significant challenges for many.

So, um, what steps have you guys taken has a FGE taken to contend with the shutdown and, uh, mobilized your membership?

Well, we've been, uh, really prioritizing and focusing on getting resources sent over to our members.

Um, you know, for, uh, for our part, I mean, we've been sending, uh, you know, constant email updates to our membership.

Um, you know, I've spent a lot of time trying to compile different resources like financial assistance, uh, energy assistance, uh, you know, resources on childcare.

Um, you know, healthcare and all, uh, uh, you know, any kind of financial or, um, you know, shutdown related assistance that we can find.

Um, and within A FGE, I mean, our, our, our council, um, within A FGE, I mean, we've compiled the spreadsheet.

Uh, this is a living document with different resources on it.

But beyond sending resources and, uh, information on that, we've also been advocating, um, you know, for more, uh, uh, flexible work arrangements, uh, during the duration of the shutdown, particularly with, uh, episodic telework, for example.

Um, you know, we've got, I mean, in Montana, you know, we've, uh, done studies.

I mean, and on average, you know, the average employee in Montana could be spending as, as much as, you know, a hundred dollars a plus commuting to work each week.

You know, without knowing when they will receive a paycheck.

Right.

Um, you know, and these commuting expenses, I mean, this is one of these expenses that can't wait.

I mean, getting to work costs money.

Right.

Um, and, uh, we've been advocating for more flexible arrangements with telework as of, uh, because of the financial hardship.

Um, you know, the vast majority of work, um, you know, that we perform is portable, meaning that it can be completed while teleworking.

Well, thanks a whole bunch, Jordan.

Just so you know, we're, uh, we're hoping for the best and we're A-F-L-C-I-O here in Montana is willing to help in any manner we can to, to, uh, further your position and, and hopefully this, uh, works out okay for everybody in the end.

So, hey, thank you very much.

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We won.

We won.

We won.

In next generation carriers, uh, letter carrier, Margot discusses burnout, describing the exhaustion, cynicism, and self-doubt that come from long hours and chronic stress and what it takes to rebuild community and care at work.

And Harold, I think this must be another new one because again, I had to look up the graphic for it, so it must be relatively new, right?

No, no.

We've had next generation carriers in the network for a while.

They usually do a couple of shows a week, and this show is a great example of how even a show that's specific to one job being a letter carrier can really educate all of us in all walks of life about what we're dealing with at work and at home.

Hello there and welcome to the Next Generation Carriers podcast, the Women's Roundtable Edition.

I am your host, Margot, and I am incredibly honored to be hosting my very first episode of Next Generation Carriers.

And today I would like to talk about burnout.

So I don't know if you have kind of peeked your head out around the corner of your case in the morning, but I think a lot of the people at the post office are burnt out, and especially the women, but I think the gentlemen, I think the girlies, the boilies, the everybody's will have a lot to get out of this episode.

So.

Let's be real.

We work a very demanding job sometimes for long hours of the day.

It is incredibly taxing on our bodies and on our minds.

So I thought that this would be an appropriate topic because it is going to become even more relevant as we head into peak season.

Um, and we all get to deal with a massive influx of election mail, parcels, cards, advertisements.

Um, and all sorts of stuff.

Uh, and I especially see burnout affecting my friends who are union activists, stewards or hold another position within the union, like particularly in the mental and um, caring aspect of burnout.

But we will get into that a little bit later.

So when I Google.

A technical definition of burnout.

What comes up is the following.

Burnout is an occupational phenomenon characterized by extreme exhaustion from chronic workplace stress leading to feelings of cynicism or negativism towards one's job, and a reduced sense of personal efficacy.

So for me to put that into English, it means that you have been working so hard for so long that you begin to feel a strong sense of resentment and frustration with your job.

It has primarily been studied in the context of healthcare workers and other care workers, but I would say that it also applies to jobs like ours where the work is very physical and we work for long hours of the day.

So basically you start to feel completely exhausted.

You begin to question everything.

Um, but like in a bad way, uh, you begin to ask yourself like, what is it all worth?

Does any of this even matter?

Like your mood is no longer lift.

Did.

When you get to say hello to one of your favorite customers, you no longer feel joy upon seeing, you know, and being able to pet one of your favorite dogs on the route.

And, uh, I know a lot of people may not want to admit this, but maybe you have been fighting for your coworkers for so long within the union that you just begin to think that it's all futile and that nothing will ever change.

So why bother?

Your only thought in this stage of burnout is how to get home as soon as possible so that you can get some much needed sleep.

So.

Now, I know that some of you out there are going to laugh when you hear me say these things like, but Margot, of course, I just wanna clock out and go home.

This is a job I never thought that I ever mattered here in the first place.

Never got my hopes up.

Don't worry about me.

Of course, I know that I'm just a number.

I'm just a cog in the machine.

But I want to insist that if you are listening to a podcast about being a next generation carrier.

Maybe you're a little bit more bought in than you're ready to admit.

Maybe you care a little bit more than you think.

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All right, let's wrap up with one of my other favorite podcasts, the SAG after podcast.

You know, being a SAG after member and all national executive director Duncan Crabtree Ireland, talks with new union President Sean Aston about carrying forward his mother's legacy, tackling AI and strengthening solidarity across the entertainment industry.

Hello everyone and welcome to the SAG AFTRA podcast.

I'm Duncan Crabtree Ireland, national Executive Director and Chief negotiator of SAG aftra.

Our guest today, Sean Astin, has spent most of his life in front of the camera starring in beloved films such as The Goonies, Rudy, and of course, the Iconic.

The Lord of the Rings and behind the scenes as a committed advocate for SAG AFTRA and its members, and now he's leading our union as its newly elected president.

At the recent Biennial Convention, Shawn addressed the membership and laid out his vision for the next chapter.

Of SAG aftra and I'm just so personally thrilled to have him joining us today on the podcast.

Sean, welcome to the SAG after podcast and congratulations on your election.

Thank you very much, Duncan.

It's, I think, I feel like the words honor and a privilege are this kind of phrase that it gets used now and it just kind of goes by, but it is a genuine, uh, I'm so proud of the fact that the.

Members put their confidence in me and uh, I'm absolutely determined to earn it.

Now as far as this role, the role of president of SAG aftra, um, you've said that this role is life defining.

What does that mean for you?

Maybe I was meaning identity, A sense of identity, a sense of like who you are.

You know, my mother was president of this union and Patty Duke in 1985 and reelected.

Can you tell the listeners there's something you have in your office?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The, uh, so we have a and historian for SAG after that, uh, works here at headquarters and she.

Presented me when I walked into the office the first time with my mother's sag after president business card.

And uh, you know, it's like, thanks for having me here.

Make me cry in the first second that I walk in.

You're like, what about the strong face of the union and, uh, that you're supposed to be presenting?

And it was, and we got, it's framed now and it's on there and, but because that is such an important part of her biography.

Passed away about nine years ago.

For me to be the first second generation president of the union, it takes everything that's led up to it.

All the wonderful opportunities that I've had and the work that I've done and everything else, it sort of frames it in a different way.

I think it, the listeners would really love to maybe hear a little bit about what are your priorities as president?

Like, what have you been thinking about that you want to put on the front of your agenda.

Um, it's a lot.

Yeah, I know it's a lot.

I know.

You know, I know, you know, um, the things that you hear the most about that are on top of mind of, uh, performers.

The thing that that unifies everybody in concern is the health and pension plans.

Um, so I think, uh, given the.

State of healthcare in the, in the country and the, you know, skyrocketing cost of, um, of care of pharma, of drugs or whatever, pharmaceuticals as our.

Plan has wrestled with it and there's been a lot of drama associated with, uh, decisions that have been made by the plan, what the president can do, because I've also learned like the presidency has limitations.

Like I can't conjure dragons or something.

Like, that's kind of a bummer.

Like I don't, there's no magical powers that are no magical, no, there are magical powers.

Just not that they have li certain corporal limitations, but what the president is empowered to do in our constitution is, um, well, you know, I'm not telling you, but you know this, but, um, for the members.

Is to bring to the board recommendations and to agendize items that the board can then act on, that can be communicated to those plans.

So there's that, uh, artificial intelligence is the other thing that I hear and that the, the membership and every.

A citizen of the country and human being around the world is really focused on.

People may not realize this, there is a lot of consternation, a lot of upset, a lot of feeling that.

The union does not understand the ethical ramifications of what artificial intelligence is doing.

They don't like this idea that it's, um, you know, a condition of employment to that.

There's, there's just an awful lot about artificial intelligence that is a pain point for people.

It's, we're existing in a culture where there's, people are looking for places.

To fight back against this new technology.

So for me, I wanna say that their union is doing way more than they probably realize there are limitations.

There is only so much we can do, and I think what I want to try and do is make sure that.

The membership understands the command that we have over it and make sure that we understand that we don't know everything and there are a lot of places where great information and great ideas are coming from, from within the membership that we need to be open to.

We need to try and figure out how to.

Blend those ideas with what we're doing.

Sean, this is, this is such great stuff.

I really think we need to stretch this out and make it into two episodes.

So I think what we should do is maybe take a little pause here and then come back with the next episode and just continue the conversation.

Sounds good." Folks time now for shows.

You should know SYSK as we call it.

Uh, quick roundup.

Great new episodes from across the Labor Radio Podcast Network, and just because it'll annoy Harold across the airwaves, Harold.

Well, you know, there's a lot of stuff going across the airwaves and podcast waves.

You saying what?

I mean?

It's just impossible to fit all the great shows that have come out over the past week in this half hour show.

So that's what this list is about.

A few more that you ought to check out.

A checkout like El Cafecito del Dia, Where Tiffany Roman, president of the Lala Rocky Mountain Chapter, talks about how the government shutdown is hitting working families and federal workers nationwide, and how union siblings can step up to help those in need.

And lemme tell you, they did keep your device tuned to this frequency for two new episodes of classes of mail.

First.

Michael joins Alan to reflect on his Air Force service and the benefits veterans have earned.

then the two take on discipline letters they've received and pick about management's claims one by one.

Yeah, it was Veterans Day this week and we did have some Veterans Day episodes, didn't we?

We did.

And that includes, uh, this next one, pipe up, which actually is one of my favorite titles for a podcast, a Labor podcast.

This is from the United Association of Plumbers and Pipe Fitters.

Therefore, pipe up, uh, marked Veterans Day with Mike Hazard, Andrew Garcia and Sean Ellis.

Uh, they talked.

Mark about why veterans are such a natural fit for the trades and how the VIP that's the Veterans in Piping Program opens doors to good union careers.

Great show, great show, and the official podcast of the National Association of Letter Carriers fight like hell.

Also honored Veterans Day.

By saluting, NALC members who've served or are serving in the military, sharing resources and stories for veteran letter carriers.

We rise.

Fighting takes on a packed week in labor and politics.

John Manan is mayoral win in New York City, the UAW Local 95 strike in Janesville, Wisconsin.

Starbucks workers strike authorization vote.

So here's my thought.

We've got fight like hell and we rise fighting.

I think they should do like a co-branding collaborative podcast.

Like, you know, we rise.

We rise.

Fighting like hell.

Exactly.

We rise fighting like hell.

Exactly.

You got it.

You're 1, 1, 2.

Two bodies, one brain.

Harold, I like it.

Uh, and finally, finally, and this is personal for me, one of my very favorite labor leaders, um, this is a salute to Mark diming just recorded his last episode of communicating with you, the member.

As president of the American Postal Workers Union, and I think, uh, you know, for all of us, uh, a big thanks to Mark for, for years of, of great work.

I, I first met Mark, uh, we were at a, a, uh, an action.

We were, we, we were crashing, uh, some right wing, uh, inside the Beltway thing, probably 15, 20 years ago.

And I took one.

That sounds about right.

No, and I looked to my right and I was like, that looks like Mark dimming the president of a union.

And you, you know, you don't usually see.

You know, people, well back in the day, I should.

These days it's more common, but back in the day was not something that was common to see.

So anyway, thanks Mark.

Great work and great podcasts.

Yep.

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By who?

Dat who?

Me?

Harold Phillips.

Yep.

That's the one.

Do you want, you want a cue, Patrick?

It's your, you're up Patrick for the Labor Radio Podcast Weekly.

Still fighting like Hal.

I'm Patrick Dixon.

I am a mushed up Harold Phillips.

And I'm Chris Carlock.

Yep.

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Easy for you to say, Harold, and we'll see you next week.

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