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Welcome to the bolt Report.

I'm Danikiti Giorgio coming up tonight.

Anthony Alberzi continues to resist calls for a Bondi Royal commission, arguing one wasn't.

Called after the Linked Cafe siege.

I'll get reaction from former Prime Minister Tony Abbott, who was leader at the time of that attack, and you won't want.

To miss what he has to say.

A Sky News Yugov poll finds sixty two percent of voters believe the federal government has badly handled the issue of Islamic extremism, and Labor announces a raft of travel regulations for politicians after Minister Anika Wells went on a global spendithon with your money, but first tonight, all we have seen for the past week since the Bondai massacre is a snap decision here, a snap decision there by government rushing through legislation with no thought about the consequences for you at home.

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The reality is, for far too long hate has been allowed to festa in this country and it circles back to radical Islam, a topic that really no leader has been for the past two years willing to confront and it's.

A blight on those leaders that it's.

Taken the massacre of fifteen innocent people, including a ten year old girl, to even start talking about shutting down that hate.

Now we've been warning on sky News for some time about notorious Sydney hate preacher Wissam Haddad, a Muslim.

Cleric who gave a kill Jews.

Sermon in Sydney under the name Abu Usad and who has expressed support for terrorist groups including Islamic State and Al Kaider.

He's also a close friend of Islamic State, jihades Karli Sharuf and Mohammed elma Now had to Dard is associated with the Almadina Dhahwa Center in Sydney, a breeding ground for extremists, a center alleged Bondai terrorist Navid Akram was associated with.

So much so he'd allegedly been distributing pamphlets for an Islamic street preaching group.

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Today the City of Canterbury Bankstown moved to shut down the Lmadina Dawar facility, which is says has been running as an.

Illegal prayer hall by Hadad.

The council says a cease use directive on Hadad was issued by Council's regulatory and compliance team late yesterday following surveillance.

A review of council's records.

Dating back to nineteen seventy reveals the center has never had approval to operate as a prayer haul and was only recently being approved to operate as a medical center.

It goes on to say, our recent surveillance indicates there is a strong suspicion the premises is being used contrary to its intended use.

We have issued the cease use notices, which will be effective immediately.

There are no compromises and we will be taking further action if they don't comply now.

Councils said it has been monitoring the center since May after reports her dad made a speech from the center that the Jewish lobby wanted to destroy Islam.

And here are some of those comments to the invading Jews.

We see by Allah, the day you will be kicked out.

Of Palestine is coming, are they when the stones and the trees will speak and say, oh, Muslim there.

Is a do you behind me?

Come and kill him.

I can't take away from the fact, first and foremost that jihad is definitely part of el dinner and as Muslims we should never ever shy away from this.

And yes, then there may be types of jihad.

What of the peak of this jihad is that which the message of Muhammad Salad was set and spoken about.

And I'll read the hat it's soon and that is fighting in the path of a las oligin a physical fight.

About time that this center of hate was shut down, And I will say, Mayor Belal al Hayek has more guts than the prime minister.

But it's unacceptable that it's being shut down because of planning and council violations as opposed to the extremist ideology being spewed inside.

Why wasn't the center shut down years ago by labor?

What was the hold up?

And now it's actually been left to council to shut it down via a violation.

In May, the Daily Telegraph reported that Wissam had been preaching from the Al Medina Dawa Center.

A court in June ruled with some Hadad's sermons unlawful after the Council of Executive Council of Australian Jury successfully sued him for racial discrimination.

Now Canterbury Bankstown says at the time council investigated the claims and carried out surveillance of the center, but had no evidence.

To issue any notices.

Despite no complaints from nearby residents, we continued to conduct ongoing surveillance of the premises and we now have the photographic evidence to suspect the center is being used contrary to what it has been approved for.

This preaching has gone on for months, if not years.

Then seventeen year old Navid Akram allegedly made multiple connections to ISIS members and recruited as a follower of Wissam Hadad.

Yet it's taken the murders of fifteen people to get here.

It should have been shut down years ago, and not just for its business model and labour.

Says, Oh, look, we're going to clamp down on hate preachers.

We're going to clamp down on hate speech.

Well, my question is will these laws stop the hate associated with radical Islam or will it be used as blasphemy by stealth And we go down the path of the UK where people are being arrested for saying things that the government there doesn't like.

Now, I'm all for change when freedom.

Of speech does cross into hate speech and violence, and we have certainly seen that out of the Al Medina Dawa Center.

But the distinction needs to be made by labor otherwise, is this extreme Islam terror attack just being used by the left to clamp down on your freedom of speech?

And it seems Anthony Albanezi is today again all out of ideas on it.

He's circling back to gun.

Control as the answer to the massacre, repeating the same word salads we've heard before.

The terrible events at Bondai show that we do need more guns off our streets.

The fact there are more guns in Australia today than there were at the time of the Port Arthur massacre is of.

Real concern to Australians.

Needs to change.

Australia's gun laws will last substantially reformed in the wake of the Port Arthur tragedy.

The terrible events at Bondai show we need to get more guns off our streets.

One of the terrorists, of course, held a firearm license and had six guns.

There is no reason why someone living in bonnie Rig needs six heavy arms, which is what we saw to commit this crime.

We know that one of these terrorsts held a firearm license and had six guns in spite of living in the middle of Sydney suburbs.

They're at Bonnirick.

There's no reason why someone in that situation neweded that many guns up.

It's not the guns, it's the Islamic extremists pulling the trigger.

What are you doing about those people?

What are you doing about the people brought into this country under a runaway migration policy which has seen some people brought in who hate us and hate our values.

And will you front up to the fact that your diverse Australia has failed by the continued effort to bring people in from countries who were incompatible with our own under the guise of multiculturalism.

A Sky News ugov Pole release.

Today found sixty two percent of voters said the federal government had badly handled the issue of Islamic extremism.

This included thirty six percent of people who said the issue had been handled very badly and twenty six who said badly.

Fifty eight percent of voters said the government had badly handled anti Semitism, including thirty three percent who said very badly twenty five percent who said badly.

Yet Islamic extremists commit terror at Bondai and the government screams guns, hate speech and Nazis.

For organizations which for a generation, organizations like his book to Career and the neo Nazis for a generation have managed to keep themselves just on the legal side of Australian law, but never on the side of the Australian community.

I mean, Tony Burke can't even mention his book area without mentioning neo Nazis.

I'm all for a crackdown on neo Nazis, but again it's conflating one issue with another for the sake of as the Prime Minister would say, unity.

I certainly do regret the politicization of this issue.

This is.

A time where the nation.

Needs to come together in unity and with that sense of purpose.

This is not a time for people to look for political product differentiation for the sake of it, and I'll continue to argue for unity.

Unity, and yet we are the ones who will suffer through rush laws which don't address the heart of the issue, because we've imported hatred for the sake of unity.

Rabbi Mendel Pastel, whose brother in law, Rabbi Eli Schlanger was murdered at Bondi explained it very well today.

We're not going to legislate ourselves out of this and create.

More rules and more rules and more rules as to what.

You could and can say.

The way we're going to get past it is for every single one of us to know that we have to have a zero tolerance for anything that makes people feel uncomfortable.

Doesn't have to reach a threshold.

A threshold is zero.

Anthony Albanese's response is textbook left leaning governments who refused to address the consequences of mass migration.

Jews have been targeted and slaughtered just for being Jews.

To divert attention away from the real issue under the guise of multiculturalism and restricting our own freedoms to do so is a blight on our leaders.

And earlier I caught up with former Prime Minister Tony Abbott.

Tony Abbott, thank you very much for your time.

The Prime Minister today spoke about a perversion of Islam and that the attack was motivated by Isis.

Now, I would say that Australia is pretty tolerant.

We've been tolerant after the Link Cafe siege, the murder of Curtis Cheng, the attack on Bishop mar Mari Emmanuel.

We watched in horror at nine to eleven the Bali bombings.

Now we've seen fifteen people murdered in cold blood.

That tolerance has snapped.

If we don't do something about radical Islam now, then when will.

We exactly right?

And it's really taken wild horses to drag the Prime Minister, kicking and screaming to this position.

Radical militant death to the infidel's.

Islamism has been a problem for at least a decade at least since the rise of Islamic State, and yet we've had no hate preachers deported or prosecuted.

We've had no hate marches banned and dispersed.

This is a government and a Prime Minister that has really been absolutely asleep at the wheel when it comes to the challenge of radical death to the Infidel's Islamism which has now erupted horribly in our midst and I just think that for the first time in my life, we.

Have let ourselves down as a country.

But the main culprit is the Prime Minister who has not taken and the threat of radical Islam.

Seriously, So what is.

It going to take to tackle this?

Where would you start if you were still leader of this country.

Well, firstly, we don't need more talk.

We do need to deport or prosecute or both the hate preachers.

We do need to ban and disperse these hate protests.

We do need to be a lot.

Stricter about who gets long term visas to come to our country.

We do have to absolutely insist.

That everyone living in this country takes the words of the Citizenship Oath.

Seriously, we do need to keep people on probation for longer if they're coming to this country and if there's the slightest evidence that they aren't going to accept values, particularly our easy going acceptance that people are free to worship, they're free to speak, they're free to think in accordance with their conscience.

If there's the slightest suggestion that they are subscribers to.

Some kind of death to the Infidel ideology.

Well, then, as even Tony Burke said the other day, if they come here to hate, we don't want them.

The trouble is this is a government which hasn't.

Acted that way.

No.

Well, and that's exactly the problem, and it just puts into spotlight our migration policy in this country.

Right now, Sky News has commissioned a poll conducted by Yugov which reveals that sixty two percent of Australians think the government has handled Islamic extremism.

Badly, and fifty eight percent say that the.

Government has handled anti semitism badly, quite high numbers.

What do you make of it?

Well, I think the public are awake to this government and to this Prime Minister.

They realize that the government has been asleep at the wheel.

I think they realize that what we've really got is a government full of social justice activists when actually we need at least a few national security warriors.

And that's the problem.

I just think that this government doesn't get it when it comes to people who don't like us, who don't like our way of life, and if they possibly can, they want to do us harm.

I hope that the government has finally woken up, but nothing that they've done this week suggests that they really have.

There's no immediate action, there's been no dramatic change.

Everything is being put off to the new year, when there is so much that could be done under existing law, but this government simply hasn't done it.

No, and we saw today the Canterbury Banks Down Council is moving to shut down the notorious al Medina Dawa Center in Sydney.

This is a center linked to alleged terrorist Navide Akram and run by hate preacher with some Hadad.

I mean, my argument right now is okay, this is great, but it's shocking that it's taken the murders of fifteen people to get to this point.

We've been warning for some time about this center.

I mean, is it just too little, too late?

Exactly right.

It should not have taken the death of fifteen innocent people to stir this government into action.

But even now it's more reviews, more talk.

There's no recall of parliament, there's been no change in the way things are policed.

The Royal Commission that we really must have to get to the roots of the due hatred which has been rampant in our community, which should look at the whole circumstances which created the December the fourteenth atrocity.

Even that is too hard for this Prime Minister.

Now, given that we are a country which is accustomed to have raw commissions into all sorts of difficulties, Given that this is the worst terrorist atrocity ever to take place on our soil, we simply must learn everything we possibly can about how it came about.

And that includes looking at the air of government.

It includes looking.

At the climate which has developed in our educational institutions.

It includes looking at the anti Semitism which has become entrenched in the broad Marxist left in this country, and the penetration of this anti Semitic Marxist left into institutions.

And I think this is one of the reasons why the Prime Minister is so reluctant to have a royal commission, because he doesn't want the lid to be lifted on all of this, because, let's face it, this is where his support base has always been.

Well.

Anthony Abernez, he said today that there wasn't a royal commission called after Port Arthur, and there wasn't one after the Linked Cafe siege.

You were the Prime Minister at the time of the Link Cafe attack.

What is your response to the Prime Minister's comments on that.

Well, I think it's yet another smokescreen from this minister.

Two very important points.

Prior to the Lint Cafe siege.

We hadn't had two years of growing due hatred.

We hadn't had two years of a government neglecting national security.

The second point I make is that no one ever accused my government of being soft on Islamist terrorism.

I called it out immediately, immediately.

Not only did we call out Islamist terrorism, but at the time we had Australian Armed Forces, we had special forces, we had strike fighters in the Middle East fighting against Islamic state.

So to draw some parallel between then and now is simply force.

Well.

Look, I mean, I think there's many of us who think that we could certainly do with Alita like you right now in a time of crisis.

Tony Abott, thank you very much for joining me on the show this evening.

Really appreciate it.

Denika.

I really worry that what the Prime Minister has in mind is that we're all going to go to sleep over Christmas and forget this.

Our country has got to be better than this and this year.

Our year's resolutions shouldn't just be to be better people.

We've got to be a better country as well.

Yeah, look, you're not wrong, and he can't think that he's going to sleep his way through the summer.

Wake up when parliament resumes and it's all blown over.

This is just the start and it's just unacceptable.

There's no Royal Commission.

Nice to speak with you, Tony Abott, Thanks very.

Much for joining me.

Thanks Anika.

Bring in our panelists now, former Liberal MP Nicole Flint, a former Federal member for mckella, and president of the New South Wales Liberal Party Jason Flinsky.

Thanks to both of you for joining me.

Before I get reaction to my interview with Tony Abbott, I just want to bring out of you with some very sad breaking news.

Former Liberal MP Katie Allen has passed away.

In a post shared to X, her family said, with a heavy heart, we announced the passing of our beloved Katie.

She spent her life caring for others as a mother, doctor, professor, MP and friend.

She is deeply loved.

She passed in peace surrounded by family and lived a full, beautiful life all the way to the end.

I know that both of you knew Katie Allen.

She was, of course a doctor turned politician, had a terrific career.

Nicole, what's your reaction to the news.

Well, just when you thought that twenty twenty five couldn't get.

Any worse, it did.

This is just really, really, really tragic and sad.

Katie was only fifty nine years old.

She was such an incredible lady, pediatrician, professor, medical researcher.

I served with her between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty two when I retired from Federal Parliament, and she was just a really lovely, passionate, incredibly hard working lady.

And I'm just heartbroken for her husband, Malcolm, and her four kids.

And I've just found out about this, so yeah, it's yeah, it's a lot.

I'm just what a what a tragedy, and what a loss to the nation and of course to her family.

She was an incredible woman, she.

Really was, and and just such a strong advocate for her community too.

Jason, I know that you knew her personally as well.

I mean, this is just a terrible news for the Liberal Party.

I'm not only that to make sure it's terrible news for the country.

I mean, I agree with everything that Nicole just said and more.

She was a fierce warrior in the Parliament for making Australia a better place for honesty, for intellectual honesty.

She didn't care who she offended.

She was only interested in the truth, and she held herself and those people around her to very high standards.

And that's how you knew you were a friend of Katie's, because she would hold you to a higher standard than others.

She ran again for parliament and wasn't successful.

In May this year, she and now shortly thereafter that she had cancer and I don't know why, but I always thought she'd get through it.

So this is devastating news.

Yes, look it really is.

And look, thank you for your tributes.

I know that you know it's hard for both of you as well.

You both personally knew her, so condolences to her family.

She's a real lost to Australia, as you both mentioned.

Look, let's move on.

I'm sure you're both listening to the interview I just had with Tony Abbott there on why a Royal commission into the Bondai massacre is so needed.

Here was what the Prime Minister had to say in response today.

That there was no royal commission called by the Howard government after Port Arthur.

There was no royal commission called are the Abbot government after the Linked siege.

Arthur gunman was a madman and as Tony Abbott pointed out in my interview with him, after the Link Cafe siege, Tony Abbott called out radical Islam and his.

Leadership was strong on this.

So how can the Prime Minister avoid a royal commission into the worst terror attack on home soil.

Well that's right and he well he can avoid it, but the Australian people will judge him accordingly, and quite frankly, Prime Minister Anthony Abernezi has proven time and time again over the past week and a half that he is weak and that he is a coward.

This is the worst terror attack Australia has ever seen.

We haven't apart from what happened in Israel on the seventh of October twenty twenty three.

This is the worst attack on a Jewish community worldwide.

We have to have a royal commission into this, and more than that, we also need to look at precisely how this type of religious extremism and terrorism has been allowed to grow and to fester in Australia.

We are one of traditionally the most tolerant, peaceful and safe countries in the entire world.

So the very least that this labor government can do is call a royal commission.

And Jason Liberal Senator Dave Sharma quite rightly pointed out today that Anthony Alberesi has supported royal commissions like the UN Oil for Food, child sexual abuse, the banking, aged care sectors, disability, ROBODEBT veteran suicide, but not the most deadly terror attack on our home soil.

What do you make of the hypocrisy?

Yeah, it kind of sticks out like a sort of fun doesn't it.

I mean tiny abitshad what leadership actually is when he was Prime Minister, and in that interview adjusted with you Daeneka, Anthony Alberesi is demonstrating how in two years Australia has gone on from one of the most peaceful, law abiding countries in the world to hosting the second worst attack on an ethnic minority in the world of this century.

So I mean no wonder he doesn't want a Royal commission.

And I think the truth of why he doesn't want a royal commission is because it would have to look at whether there were clear security failures by Asis and Asia, or whether that happened at the New South Wales Police Force level.

He would have to look at funding behind these groups that both enable and encourage and foster this hate and division.

And he knows that Sunrise Foundation gets a lot of its money from the same people and the other people who fund a lot of the union movement in Australia.

And he knows that a lot of the groups that are operating on university campuses across Australia have very close ties to the union movement and to the Labor organization.

And he doesn't want any of that experts, so he would rather he has to take the blame cohered rather than risking the truth being exposed.

Well, that's it.

And in the end, this is not about a witch hunt.

This is about making Australians feel safe.

It's about making Jews feel safe.

At the very least, call a royal commission seriously, I want to get.

Your comments on this.

Labor has today announced a tightening of travel regulations, of course, after Minister Anika Wells spent one hundred thousand dollars on flights to New York on the taxpayer dime, a trip to Paris Threadbow Sports Grand Finals.

That's just to name a few.

The changes include all families travel and economy reunion travel restricted to Canberra, and electorates and spouse travel only.

When they have been invited to an event?

Nicole?

Will this appease the public given there was such furious backlash to those revelations, I don't see how it could possibly appease the Australian people who are in the midst of an unprecedented.

Unprecedented cost of living crisis.

When we have families who you know, what if you're a five foo work in the mining industry, what if you're a member of our defense forces.

You're not having your family flying in every other day to for a reunion, are you.

It is just so out of step with the reality of day to day life for Australian families that it has to change.

And once again we are seeing weak leadership from Anthony Alberanzi because the gold standard when it comes to changing public perceptions and needing to shift parliamentary entitlements with the times comes from John Howard when he abolished the parliamentary pension, and also from Tony Abbott when he abolished the ability of MPs and senators to employ their family members, including their spousers.

So there are leaders who have done the right thing.

Anthony Albanesi is not one of them.

This Prime Minister has to go.

He is.

He has let the Australian people down so badly, as we've just discussed in the most distressing way over the past week and a half.

But this is just another example of his week leadership.

Absolutely because it didn't pass the pub test from the very beginning.

I don't think this goes far enough.

Jason, we're almost out of time, But I mean, do you think that these changes go far enough.

I know we need to get rid of all these sort of special little bonuses on the side.

If people want to fly their family in, they should do it on their own wages.

I disagree with Nicole on one thing.

I don't want to get rid of Anthony Alberanzi.

I think our best chance of winning government is against Anthony Alberanzi.

So I hope the Labour Party keeps in there right up until the next selection.

I think your raise a good point, Jason.

I don't know why we didn't think of that from the beginning, but you know what, you're actually spot on.

I like that a lot, Nicole Flinn Jason for Linski, thank you so much for joining me, and you're right, it's been not the best end to the year, but I so appreciate you both coming on and you know, particularly sharing your comments there about Katie Allen.

She was a real asset to this country.

So thank you so much for joining me.

Stay with us up after the break.

The ABC's managing director Hugh Marx claims criticism of his most senior journalist Laura Tingle and Sarah Ferguson over their coverage a Bondai was unfounded.

National Senator Matt Cadavan is next welcome back well.

Police claim alleged government Navid Akram and his father Sajed Akram filmed their training in regional New South Wales in preparation for the Bondai attack.

In one video released to a court, the pair can be seen firing shotguns and moving in a tactical manner in a countryside location in October.

In another video, Navid Akram allegedly recited passages from the Quran in Arabic.

Both also spoke in English and made a number of statements regarding their motivation for the Bondai attack and condemning the acts of Zionus.

Joining us now is Central Queensland University criminologist doctor Zanthe Mallett.

Good to catch up with you again, Xanthi.

The statement of facts released by police has been quite extraordinary.

What does it tell us about the motivation and planning that went into this alleged attack?

Good evening, Danika.

Well, certainly this looks like a heavily premeditated attack.

It's the planning has gone on for allegedly a number of months, father and son potentially traveling to be trained.

So this has been going on for quite some time and it's been very detailed.

Well, the pair also allegedly carried out a reconnaissance mission to Bondi two days prior.

They traveled to archer Pak walked along that now infamous footbridge, and this was on December twelveth so two days prior.

What will police now do with this evidence, Zanthe, and how will it form their case?

Well, they will be building a very detailed brief of evidence that will not only be looking at the hours and days and weeks and even months before these attacks, they will also be looking at who these men potentially had contact with and how they became radicalized, and if they potentially had any assistance.

So it's going to be.

A very long process because there is an awful lot of evidence to collect.

And I do want to actually ask you about radicalization.

But just before it's also been allayed by police at the Acroms through bombs at the crowd.

Thankfully they didn't detonate.

I mean, this was already a horrific attack, but it could have been even worse.

Absolutely so.

There were four items thrown at the crowd, allegedly those three pipe bombs and one tennis bomb.

And obviously this is a terrible incident, but had any of those actually detonated, it could have been so much worse with a very significant number of victims.

So we were actually very fortunate that they were not successful.

Yeah, look, you I absolutely said it was already horrific as it was.

Now Navida Akrim is being held at one of Australia's most notorious prisons.

This is the Long Bay Correctional complex in Sydney.

What do we know about that facility?

A recent report actually showed that that facility is really that white, outdated.

The viciinity is dirty, it's unclean, it's very degrading for those who are incarcerated.

Then, whilst the audience may not be concerned about the conditions for the inmates, it's also not safe for those who are working there.

So it is a particularly problematic prison.

And I imagine he will be in isolation for his own security at this stage.

Yeah, well, you know, let's see how long he he lasts Sydney's in isolation.

We'll see what happens now.

Look, I spoke earlier about Sydney's Al Medina Dhawa Center, which has been allegedly linked to navide Akrum.

It's been a breeding ground for hate and extremism.

The council now looking to shut it down under a planning regulation.

Xanthia, you're a criminologist, you know this area very well.

How are young people being indoctrinated by ideology and radical Islam?

How does it happen?

How does it start?

It's all about relationships, Danikas.

So they could be online or they could be in person.

It could be mentors, friends, family, or radical clerics who are preying on people's psychological weakness in essence and social isolation and they then groom them into radicalization.

How big of a threat is radical Islam in this country.

Well, we know that agencies such as ACO have reported that, we know that young people are being increasingly radicalized, both online and in person, and there is an increasing threat.

And whilst I don't want to scare the nation after the horror that we've seen just over a week ago, it is something that the agencies are looking up very closely and I think we need a lot more funding going into this to make sure that Australia is as safe as it can possibly be.

Absolutely, I mean funding for these departments has to surely be one of the changes made, and pretty quickly, and given what's happened.

X Anthey Mallett, nice to see you as always, Thanks very much for your time.

Well coming up, as I mentioned, the ABC continue their year of horror as they coverage of the Bondi attack is slammed.

That are more coming up.

With National Senator Matt Canavan back for more than two years, the ABC has been relentless and it's anti Israel bias.

Even after the deaths of fifteen people, Journalists Laura Tingle and Sarah Ferguson conducted themselves more like activists.

Have a look absolutely a radicalized these words targeting Jews.

It is anti Semitic, but we are ascribing all sorts of things, right, Yeah, their actions are not based on their religion.

ABC Managing Director Hugh Marx has since defended the pairs, saying the ABC has reviewed both comments and the programs in question and believes that the criticisms made are unfounded.

Jodding me now is National Senator Matt Canavan.

Matt, thanks for your time at every angle.

The ABC has been very quick to believe the worst of Israel, and last week's on air performance was another example.

But once again deflecting from Hugh Marx, what do you make of it?

Well, look to an Acre.

I mean, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

I'm not shy of expressing mine, as your channel too, hosts a variety of opinions.

So just not sure why we spend a billion dollars seeking opinions for almost invariably just one side of the political debate.

Billion dollars spent by you.

Your viewers have to subsidize this.

If these comments were made on a private channel, on a blog post online, we wouldn't be talking about them right now.

The reason we're talking about them is because we all fund this, and we fund effectively a one sided debate, not just this is you, but a variety of issues.

My biggest complaint with the ABC over many years has been its obsession with a few narrow interests are the purview of the elites, the talking classes among us.

The latest over the last couple of years has been the war in Gaza and a pretty one sided slant on that.

There are lots of issues in this country.

It is the Australian Broadcasting co Operation.

There's lots of issues to face people out here in the bush.

There's a lots of industries.

There's a lots of their environment from the rampant roll out of reckless renewable energy projects, and very little coverage of that on the ABC.

So I continue to ask myself where is the billion dollars of taxpayer dollars going and why isn't more of it If we're going to have a public broadcaster, more of it's spent on the public issues.

That face everyday Australians.

Yeah, and not on activists journalists, on actual journalists.

That's their key job.

I completely agree.

Now, look, you've called out Labor for its decision not to open a Royal commission into BONDI.

You posted on social media that two years ago Labour set up a Senate inquiry into right wing extremism.

The LMP moved a motion to expand.

The inquiry to look at all types of ideologically and religiously motivated violent extremism, but that was voted down by the amendment by Labor.

Matt it was Labor that wanted this Senate inquiry from the very beginning.

I just don't understand why they didn't vote, why they voted against expanding it.

Well, Denika, the only conclusion you can make is that the Labor Party were politicizing the investigation of extreme views, violently extreme views at times in our community, and being a left wing government, they only wanted to look at right wing issues.

To explain the context of this to your viewers, this motion was moved in the Senate just a couple of months after the October seventh attacks.

Indeed, just a couple of months after we saw that shocking footage of pro Palestinian protesters threatening Jewish people on the steps of the Sydney Opera House.

So just a couple of months after we'd seen that outbreak of shocking anti semitism, the government refused to expand their proposed inquiry into extremist views to tackle ideologically motivated extremism of all types, left or right wing, and we'd also proposed, the olymp had proposed that we expand the inquiry to include religiously motivated extreme ranism, and the government voted that down.

The report that this inquiry then released, of course, because they were constrained.

It's constrained by the terms of reference, had seventy one mentions of Islam.

Seventy of those, seventy one referred to Islamophobia, not the issues of Islamic extremism.

The only other one quoted Asio at the time suggesting that the views or the spread of Islamic State and al Qaeda had declined over the last few years and we're no longer as great a concern.

So the government clearly turned a blind eye to only the extremism that benefited it politically, that from the right, and we've continued to see this hand fisted response last week.

I think a lot of people have been shocked at how the government can There's never been more anger from the governments after an attack in Islamic a radical Islamic terror attack.

Never been so much anger.

Then subsequently about Nazis and people are like, well, why are they talking about Nazis when the attack was clearly inspired by radical, extreme Islamic views.

The reason for that is because the government's only been obsessing about right wing groups for the last couple of years and it's found itself stuck in this gear that is not suited for the times, not suited for the response to this terrible attack, and the government needs to hear drop the politics and focus on the real safety and security concerns for Australians.

Absolutely, because this goes beyond politics now, it's about the safety of all Australians and we don't get to the heart of this issue.

I mean, we've been very tolerant for a long time linked Cafe Curtis Chang, you know, but the tolerance has snapped.

We're almost out of time, But I just want to get your comments on the Energy Minister Chris Bowen is talking up his plan to force gas producers to set aside domestic allocations as a part of a gas reservation scheme.

I've got to say, Matt, it's extraordinary for someone who's spent the past four years demonizing gas.

But how big of a difference will his announcement make?

Not much, unfortunately, Tanaka, and you can tell that very very simply from some simple mass.

The government says they want to reserve twenty five percent or after twenty five percent of domestic supplies of gas for domestic consumption.

Last year, thirty five percent of domestic production was used for domestic domestic production was used for domestic consumption.

So already over well over, and we've been well way above the twenty five percent quite for decades, for every year on record, And so this is going to do nothing.

It's setting a quota.

It's not actually going to increase the amount of gas available for domestic consumers.

How will that make any difference at all?

I don't know if the government hasn't done this match or they just think they can pull the wool of it over our eyes.

But maybe that's the reason they slipped it out just before Christmas, seeking to hide it behind all this other stuff because they don't really think it's going to make much difference.

Yeah, I reckon, that's exactly what they did.

Hit it behind what has been a terrible week here in Australia and deliberately done it.

Matt Canavan, nice to see you as always, Thanks so much for joining me.

Coming up, an academic who openly celebrated the Hamas attack and encouraged children to chant into Farda and call for the end of Israel has her one hundred and seventy thousand dollars tax payer funded research Grant restored that more with my panel.

Next, jump straight into things with our panel.

Chief executive at the Page Research Center Gerard Holland and Canberra Radio two Double C host Stephen Sennatiempo.

Thank you to both of you for joining me.

Let's start with this UGOV poll conducted for Sky News.

It's found the overwhelming majority of Australians believe the Albanezy government has poorly handled Islamic extremism and anti semitism in the wake of Bondi.

In fact, sixty two percent of voters said that labor has badly handled it.

Jarard, these are pretty damning results.

Well, Dynakha Bien choosing to make this issue about the weapons that these terrorists carried out their attack as opposed to the extremist ideology that motivated them.

Essentially, what he's saying to the Australian people is that they're very well likely is others in our community who would like to carry out similar sorts of attacks, and rather than removing them from the commune, we're just going to try and remove one of the weapons that they may try in use.

And then at the same time, by rushing.

Through these very poorly worded hate speech laws, he's essentially criminalizing every day Australian's ability to talk about and criticize the kind of radical Islamist ideology that allegedly.

Has inspired these attacks.

And I just don't think Australians are wearing and I think Australians are seeing the bollards go out at our Christmas fairs, They're seeing New Year's celebrations get canceled.

We are aware of the heightened sense of tension around the likelihood of further violence, and we're looking for a leader to step up and to protect the Australian people.

His first and fundamental responsibility and not run cover by ideologies that he either does not understand or is deliberately burying underground.

At great risks to the broader Australian public.

Absolutely, it's all about fake solutions to the actual real problems at Stephen, the majority of ossies are frustrated.

What's your reaction.

Well, look, there's a couple of things for these This is when you talk about Islamophobia, sorry, Islamic extremism and anti Semitism being handled badly.

They haven't been handled at all.

So I want to know who these idiots that actually think the government's doing a good job on this are.

There's no surprise that the majority of Australians think that has been handled badly because since the October seven attacks, this government has stuck its head in the sand when it comes to antisemitism.

It stuck its head in the sand when it comes to Islamic extremism for even longer than that.

But the reality is that, yeah.

As Jared says, all of the solutions are just window dressing and band aids, trying to make it look like they're doing something because they're afraid to address the real issue here, and that Islamic extremism.

This is the greatest example of political bastardry I've ever seen in my time watching politics that for rank political opportunism, they've put a certain section of the Australian public at risk, that is the Jewish community.

But in reality they put all of it as a risk because they've been ignoring a problem that's been s sing us in the face for years and years and years now just to win votes in certain parts of Sydney and Melbourne.

Yeah.

Look, I completely agree.

And the more they tiptoe around it and put in these fake solutions, I think that more and more Aussies are waking up to it and saying, no, we need to get to the root cause it's time our leaders be strong and come out and condemn it.

And Anthony Abernezi just hasn't done that.

Let's talk about this academic who openly celebrated the Hamas attack and called for the end of Israel.

She's now had an eight hundred and seventy thousand dollars tax payer funded research grant restored.

This is doctor Randall Abdelfhatar.

Her grant was frozen for eleven months pending an investigation, but the Australian Research Council lifted it last night.

Here's a reminder.

This is the same academic who, just one day after harmas terrorists is paragliders to attack Israel and slaughter Jews, changed her Facebook profile to depict a paratrooper in the colors of the Palestine flag the day after Christmas last year, on her ex account, she said May twenty twenty five be the end of Israel.

So I helped organize a kid's excursion to a pro Palestine protest at the UNI of Sydney where young children are film chanting into fada, you know, and Gerard Well, eight hundred and seventy thousand dollars of our money is being returned.

To her our money and this is I think that the crucial point.

It actually comes to what your previous guest, Matt was saying in that previous segment around the ABC.

This is our money that's being used to spread this kind of hate and the fact that a cent a cent of Australian taxpayer dollars is going towards this kind of anti Semitism or any of the casual racisms that have just slipped into our university sector.

The amount of.

Anti white rhetoric, the white privileged narrative or DEI that intentionally discriminates different Australians based on their physical characteristics is just completely beyond the pale, and I think Australians are sick of it.

We don't want our money going towards it.

If as a private business, a private entity they want to fund this nonsense, go for it.

But Australian money, it's just unacceptable.

I completely agree, Stephen.

That's a lot of money going to an academic who's made those sorts of comments.

I don't think it passes the pub test.

What do you think?

Well, home and forget about passing the pub test.

But if you want a royal commission, we need a royal commission into our university system.

There's no two ways about that, because I mean it has become now an indoctrination system and an opportunity to sell degrees overseas rather than to educate.

Ossie's that's the problem.

And when we've got academics like this, I want to know what academic value there is from any of this person's work.

I mean, particularly when you outlined her list of sins.

But this is not just Macquarie University This is every university across Australia now and the irony is the only person that's actually trying to fix any of this is Bill Shorten, who's now the Vice Chancellor of the University of Canberra here in the nation's capital, who is saying, well, enough of these echo chambers.

We need to actually open our universities up and make them centers of critical thinking again.

But where is the direction or where is the leadership from the Education Minister on that?

And as I say, I think I've been calling for this for about two years now, a Royal commissioner in our university sector, not only because our universities are all going broke and they can only make money by selling degrees, but we need to get back to the core of what university is about, and that is educating Australians.

And we don't do that anymore, No we don't.

And this is why we need a Royal commission into this crisis so we can figure out exactly what happened from the beginning.

Jared Holland, Stephen Centent, Timpo thank you so much for joining me, and I mean you're at home.

Recall yesterday the Coalition released a draft terms of reference for their Royal Commission, and one of them included university sector, the media, the arts sector.

I mean, these are all areas that need to be looked at.

This can't just be a small scope of inquiry and internal one.

It needs to be broad up because these are the issues that we're facing.

Thank you very much for your company.

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