Episode Transcript
What's up, everybody?
Speaker 2Welcome back to another episode of Paul's Best Podcast.
Speaker 3This is the show where there's nothing negative.
Speaker 2We only talk the best, and today my guest is one of the Actually, I'm gonna say the best at what he does.
Okay, Moshaheim office here, the watch King is here.
Speaker 3Everybody on Paul's Best Podcast.
Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 1Dude, thank you for having me.
Dude.
Every Like, people.
Speaker 3Were just like, when you do watches, you gotta get this guy.
Speaker 1When you do watches, you gotta get this guy.
Speaker 2Yes, Like, I mean, listen, there are people that there are people that do sneakers, there are people that do fashion, but there are people that do watches.
Speaker 3And you are are the watch king man, and it's sick.
Speaker 2And you told me before we started to say, you've been doing this thing for sixteen years.
Speaker 1March two thousand and nine, I added up in the street by accident.
But Mars two thousand and nine, what do you mean not educated?
Right?
We grew up orthodox hasidik.
I was born in a household like that, so we're not educated.
We do only know the Bible and stuff.
So sure twenty two I had no job.
I went to the street.
And then I fell off with the job with flipping watches legit accident?
How does that start?
By accident?
So I needed a job.
I was twenty two.
I need a job.
I don't know what I was doing.
And I went to forty seven because whatever uneducated Jewish guy, what does he do?
Either barbers or watchmakers or jewelers, whatever the fuck you want to call it.
So I went to forty seventh Street to get a job.
And then my boy Gabby asked me, if I have a couple of dollars, they'll start teaching me to watch business.
That's what happened.
I bought a watch eleven thousand, sold it for eight hundred dollars, and literally thirty minutes and I was like, I'm not doing anything else.
This is it, this is it.
Speaker 3Wow, you got the bug right away, you got the itch.
Speaker 1I got the itch.
I was like, you know what, that's what I want to do.
My dream was to be a doctor.
That's my dream.
I want to be a plastic surgery you know, Yeah, how do woman look harder?
Or whatever the hell it is, But that was my dream.
And then we couldn't go to college because my dad wouldn't allow us to go to college against like the Hasidic religions.
This is my second option.
I love it.
That's all.
Speaker 2So before we get into all the best watching and stuff, which we're obviously gonna do, do you so?
And I obviously you're based in New York and people could find you there.
Speaker 1Blind blocks from here.
Speaker 3But do you travel like?
Speaker 2Do you travel like you go to la and is the same thing or it's more like they come to you here.
Speaker 1So I first started, I started doing wholesale.
So I lived in Hong Kong for eight years.
What yes, other than Hong Kong for eight years till COVID, so probably a little less than eight years.
It's twenty fourteen till twenty twenty, so that's six seven years.
And I still go now anyway.
But I lived there, let's say for seven years, Okay.
I built my business there.
I started buying there because China is the hub of the watch market.
They decide, is that right?
Yeah?
Yeah?
Well how many billions of people are there?
Don't even know?
Yeah, they control the market.
They control everything else unfortunately, but that's what they do.
So I would buy their sell here and keep on doing it.
So I lived there two weeks, came home two weeks, lived there two weeks.
He came home two weeks, right, And that's what I did.
And I started doing B to B so I would sell like from wholesale at all.
So I'll sell the stores downstairs on forty seven stery, I would be upstairs.
I'll just buy.
I would sell, okay, get paid, go back and do it again all over.
Live there for two weeks, by again, ship it here, and then do it all over again.
Speaker 3So you were you were basically doing that every two weeks on an airplane.
Speaker 1Yeah, till today.
I still do it till today.
Speaker 3Oh my, So what was atle bit like Hong Kong?
It must have been like, oh, it's beautiful.
Speaker 1It New York City, New York City, just busier, barely people speak English on one side and then other side is all British people.
So it's it's it's it's New York City.
Speaker 3Was the food incredible?
Speaker 1Yeah, in some places were incredible.
In some places that smelled like us like here, like here, it's your home at least you don't care, right, But Hong Kong wasn't is incredible incredible, incredible.
Speaker 2And I saw you did something.
I saw you said something that I thought was very interesting.
How like, because when I told people I was going to talk to you, they were like, oh, he's got rules.
Speaker 3He's got rules when you come in and.
Speaker 2He'll tell you.
So I got interested.
I'm like, what do you be rules like?
Cause you know, like look for me.
It's like people, I tell people things about stand up comedy that they didn't know, but I don't know shit like that.
Speaker 1So like, there's rules when you come in to my store.
Speaker 2Right now, there's rule Like somebody said, and but you said something to somebody which I loved.
You were teaching somebody how to the best way to negotiate correct And I heard you say, and I thought it was very interesting.
Speaker 3I thought it was very smart.
So it was a brilliant thing.
Speaker 2Where you go, if you come in with the watch, you have a rolex or something, and and you want thirteen K for it, right, don't come you said, don't come in here and go, hey, here's my roles.
What can you give me for it?
You said you want them to say what they want?
Now, like what what what does that do?
Speaker 1Number One in my store?
Is your watch your price?
Okay, it's your watch, it's your price.
For example, you want to you want to sell me the watch you're wearing.
You know exactly how much you want for it?
Correct, you know in your brain more or less how much you want for it before I walk in.
I have a number, You have a them.
Speaker 3I have a number.
Speaker 1People tell me I don't know I started.
Okay.
So if the watch worth twenty K, I say I want to offer you seven thousand, might be like, no, I want Also, you have a price, all right?
Do you have a price?
Right?
So I always say, don't negotiate against yourself.
Let's say you want to sell me a watch that's w twenty k thirteen thousand, and I'll tell you it's worth sixteen.
I'm negotiating against myself because baby, you'll give it me for thirteen.
Right.
So that's always been rule by me.
You walk in, you tell me you don't have a price, there's the door, and I have a nice day.
Have you done that?
But like any and you've really sent people out?
Of course I've sent people out.
The most time I send people out.
Somebody comes in and ask me for a watch on the window.
How much is it?
I'll say thirteen thousand.
He pulls out of watches you want to buy the same month for thirteen.
Tell him here's the door.
Get the fuck out of here.
Oh wow, don't do that shit, Raycing.
I work for free, right, I'm thirteen.
It costs me probably twelve, right, got to make some money.
What do you mean I work for free?
Don't do that.
That's that's like some stupid ship.
Be a man, come to me, be like, yo, I have this watch, I want to get XYZ.
We start negotiating.
Don't come to me on the like backwards.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2Do you ever?
Will you ever not hurt your deal?
But has a watch ever come in that you loved so much?
Like that you love so much that you'll you'll kind of bend.
Speaker 1A little bit.
So just I'll tell you a story.
I love that right away.
You just got out your story.
Yeah.
We have a salesman named Danny.
I love that kid.
He's with me since day one.
Okay, a guy walked in Darty's privileged.
I was doing TikTok live.
He wants to sell two aps ap or some other watch and he's trying to talk to about Listen, I'm doing live.
Just deal with Danny, and he's being rude to my guy, and I really wanted those watches.
They were a good price.
But he's being rude to him.
He's like, I'm not talking to you.
I'm talking to I'm going to the boss.
I'm like, bro, just talk to him.
I'm talked about saying, no, do me a favorite, take your shit and get the fuck out of my store.
Don't ever disrespect my guy here because this is my this is my eye, this is my ear, this is my guy.
Right.
I want you to deal with him for a reason, right works he gets commissioned from everything he buys herself.
I want to help him.
You're gonna be respectful to me.
I'll throw you out.
I don't care what you have.
I did it and he loved and he's like, he came back.
I sold to watch somebody.
Speaker 3I don't care, right, because, yeah, that's that's there's.
Speaker 1Certain things that will not bend.
Think I'm gonna make one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in the watch, and yeah, of course, but I'm saying it's gotta be a couple of thousands.
Speaker 3You got to treat my people with respect.
Speaker 1It's not my people, it's me.
It's my family.
For me, my workers are my employees like my family, you know, like my brothers.
Like Josh is like my little brother.
He's been with me.
This is day one.
Wow, this is day one.
He started my whole social media.
Wow, who guided me?
Told me what to do?
So he's like my little brother.
We were together two and a half years, every single day.
Speaker 2But you're doing good, Josh, whatever you're doing, you're doing good.
No that I've noticed that when I go down there and I got the like I was telling you before we started recording, my father got diamonds down there.
I got diamonds down there.
I do notice that it is a family.
When you go into a place like that.
Everybody has everybody's back, everybody can speak for everybody.
And what I noticed, which is different is you know, sometimes you go to a place and one person goes, hey, come here, I'll do it different.
But like it seemed like everybody's on the same page.
Speaker 1Yes and no, yes and no.
So just people who come ask to me and they're like, oh, he doesn't work here anymore.
Really in your not on forty seventh Street.
Oh okay, not my people they're looking for you.
God comes out.
We's watching on Instagram and oh he doesn't work here anymore.
He moved upstairs.
He's not here.
What do you need?
We'll sell it?
Oh okay.
Speaker 3So it's so it's close with just the people that are your.
Speaker 1People's to cut thro own business bro.
So why wild West?
It's not like you've been there?
Speaker 3Is it?
Speaker 1Is?
There?
Is there?
Speaker 3Like beefs is there?
Speaker 2Like where like you on somebody a block away is talking about you, guys.
Speaker 1And what the guy next to you is talking about you?
The fight with you for a customer out of nowhere.
I always be like, just keep the customer.
It's fine.
Speaker 3So you know, you know what that made me think of mo shit made me think of uncut gems?
Speaker 1But was that?
Speaker 3Was that some real some real stuff?
Speaker 1A lot of it is almost real.
I mean it's a lot of it outplayed, but it's a lot of it's almost really real.
The hustle and bustle on how that's crazy.
You'll walk down the shoot thirty people will call you to their store, right, come here, come here, we buy, we buy.
The guy grabbed you cups to this store like, so I do the opposite.
I tell the customer, don't buy.
I'll educate you.
I'll tell you what to buy.
I don't go home think about it because I'm here for the next ten years.
I'm not going anywhere.
If you feel comfortable enough to buy, you come back.
If it's not, it wasn't meant to be.
Speaker 2That's so smart.
It's almost like the pretty girl.
It's like the pretty girl at the club.
You're like, everybody's after her.
I'm just gonna look at her.
Speaker 1It's gonna make her crazy.
Why is he not looking at me?
Yeah, well he walked away everybody else I want?
Yeah, yeah exactly.
So could you go listen?
Speaker 3Because you know your product.
You know your product, and you know the quality you give.
Speaker 2So go because I'm not Because that's funny you said I'm gonna be here, exactly, I'm.
Speaker 1Gonna be here.
And also I want the customer to feel like like he got educated, like I taught him something.
That's my main goal is to teach the consumer, the customer what he's buying right, so he's comfortable.
Because usually they go, they get banged out.
She's celebrities.
When they go, they get banged down.
They're sick of it.
Yeah.
I have a lot of hate on forty seven because what I do is I tell people not to buy stuff.
They come for me.
I want to I style watch, don't buy it.
Imagine you tell somebody coming into your story, don't buy this bag.
Yeah it's not for you.
Or don't buy this sneaker.
You're gonna lose your shirt when you sell it.
That's what I do.
I have it.
Yeah, but the guy doesn't cure.
But if you care and you tell me I want to watch it, I can tomorrow sell and not lose my shirt, maybe lose a thousand, Like don't buy diamonds, don't buy icetyle.
Buy this.
This has the chance to go up tomorrow.
This doesn't.
This will kill you in the future.
This gives you thirty percent of your money.
This will That's what I do.
And that's why some people don't like that.
They hate me, But it's okay.
I don't want them.
I want the customers to love me.
I don't care about the competition.
Speaker 3Yeah no, that's amazing, man.
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1Okay, guys.
Before we continue with the.
Speaker 3Podcast, I just want to announce some stand up comedy dates I have.
On December twelfth, I will be in Newtown, Connecticut at the Edmundtown Hall Theater Friday night, December twelfth, then New.
Speaker 1Year's Eve December thirty.
Speaker 3First, I will be at the Great Comedy Connection in Providence, Rhode Island for two shows, and then going into twenty twenty six.
On January eighth, the Washington DC Improv and then Valentine's Day weekend February twelfth through the fourteenth, I will be at the Great Side Splitters Comedy Club in Tampa, Florida.
And now let's.
Speaker 1Get back to the podcast.
Speaker 2You said something that I think happens a lot also with real estate and other things with celebrities.
Right, they take advantage because there slepty so whether it's a house, whether it's oh, they'll pay, they'll pay.
Speaker 1Right, although any number they'll pay.
And I do the opposite.
I don't even want to make money on you.
Just we're like family.
It's fine.
I'll make money on somebody else, or I'll make a cup or you know what I do.
What I do is to the big timer, I said, this is my cost.
How much you let me make?
Whatever you say I'll make.
Wow, I'll put the ball on your court.
Wow, you come into my story.
I like it, like you know, here's my cost.
This is my tag.
This is my divided.
My cost is twelve thousand.
How much you want to give me profit?
You tell me twelve five.
I say, okay, you'll tell me cost.
I'll say, okay, no problem.
Speaker 3Wow, that's brilliant, dude.
Speaker 1It happened with one big guy.
I'm not gonna say his name.
He bought an EP for me.
It was like a frosted.
That cost was three thirty.
I told listen, we're sitting at a basketball games, like I want to buy this watch.
And I'm like, look, here's the watch.
This is my cost.
Like, you're happy with fifteen thousand?
I said, yeah.
He's like all right done.
Wow.
He feels comfortable that eating gets because I'm sure if you want on the streety'll charge you four hundred thousand.
They'll kill us.
The guy makes a hundred million dollars a year, why not just bang it?
Who could?
What's thirty thousand for him?
It's still money?
Speaker 3Yeah, And you know what's so short sighted?
Speaker 2It's so short sighted to bang them out because guess what, everybody comes to you now, right.
He tells his other players, his other friends to come to you, because you could have banged him out.
Speaker 3For four hundred Yeah, but instead it was.
Speaker 1I watch everybody in four sells.
She's going to copy this now, but you heard it here first.
I don't care.
I say how it is.
That's what I do.
That's my trick.
Speaker 2Oh, that's why you're the watch kids, and that's why everybody, That's why I heard about it.
Speaker 1That's why I heard about you.
Speaker 2That's why people said, Oh, if you're talking about the best, you got to get the best.
So now, so here's all I want to ask you, because because there's a lot of people that can't afford.
Speaker 3There's like different levels of watch people.
Right, there's the not then that there's the lunatics, and then there's the middle, and then there's somebody that'll go and get So I want to ask you this before we get into the best watches, because I want to talk to you about the best watches in the world.
Speaker 2But but what are some good watches for?
Like I almost want to say, like a beginner.
Speaker 1And question, amazing question.
So listen, you should buy always sport models and roles.
That's the best watch to get into.
Submarriners, Batman's Hulks pepsis whatever the hell you want to call it.
Starbucks sprites.
Those are the watches that have the opportunity to go up in value in the future.
It's not investible.
I don't preach all it's invest in investments.
Watch are not an investment.
Okay.
It's better than a luxury car, right, but it's not like you're gonna lose money today if you buy it from like a retailer or whatever it is.
Yeah, you want to sell it, Okay, then you lose a couple of hundred dollars.
A thousand dollars depends on heart somebody texted you when you bought it, okay.
But for example, a Hulk ten years ago was seven k today it's eighteen to twenty thousand.
Okay, you can wear a watch for ten years and make money, right, you gotta be patient.
But if you can start going with the gold watches, the buzz down watches the day just yeah, they're nice, they're affordable.
They're not investible, they're.
Speaker 3Not yet it's not okay, right, So it's.
Speaker 1Any sport model Rolex ninety percent of them have the opportunity to increase value in the future.
Now.
Speaker 3Now, other than Rolex Emotion, what would you say.
Speaker 1That's it?
You just go everything else as a risk.
I mean, yeah, they have paddicks, apiece of paddics, different level epis, different level beginners.
Right, when you start buying an exotic car, what's luxury car?
Is the first car you're buying a BMW or Mercedes.
Right, Sorry guys, but that's the truth, right, right, So you buy the the safe bed is Rolex.
Rolex is the safest bet for the beginner.
For a person who's a big dog and wants to buy a paddic, you buy Nautilus Aquanas.
Doos also have the chance to go up.
We're talking about now June ten to twenty thousand, right, we're doing that budget to twenty thousand sports models, Rolexes sports Yeah, okay, you could buy djous.
You're not gonna lose your shirt, but it's not gonna go up in ten years like a haul deer or like a Batman did or like whatever.
Okay, gotcha?
Speaker 2So what what makes one go?
What makes one start at seven and then get to twenty five?
And let's say one starts at seven and just says like gets to like ten or stays at seven the man.
Speaker 1Burke and sells over a retail Why because suckers won, and they won't give it to you demand exactly.
Roots will give you a day dress, but they won't give you a batman or a back girl or a hulk do ten years ago they would beg me to buy this merchandise that thirty five percent off.
They will beg me.
Dealers will call me please.
Nobody's buying till COVID.
Once COVID came, the whole market change it did.
Yeah, I went everything went crazy.
You can't go into Roles buy anything.
Sorry, we don't have I can't imagine you go into a store you want to spend twenty thousand and sell you No, how would you feel?
Now you want it?
Because reverse psychology?
Oh you told me no, Now I want it.
Speaker 3You know what's hysterical.
Somebody told me to ask you that.
Speaker 2My podcast partner on my other show, Robert Kelly, he just said, he goes what he goes.
Speaker 1Can you do me a favor?
He goes?
Ask him why I can't go into Rolex and buy?
Speaker 3But but do they make exceptions like if you no?
So if I go into Rolex right now with twenty five thousand.
Speaker 1One hundred thousand, I want find I can say I said, so you come to me, I'll be on my knees.
Speaker 2Is that their strategy to make the collegey wow?
Speaker 1Because they saw the demand?
Like, you know what, we're stopping all this shit.
Now you have to build a profile.
All you want to do.
You want to day twenty, you're gonna make double your money.
Buy a piece of shit JEWELR.
They're gonna lose forty thousand dollars and then we'll give you a Daytona for retail.
So in your band, you're overspending year to get a Daytona in retail.
Oh, it makes no sense because you're gonna lose money regardless by as well as go buy it in the green market over retail.
Right, But people don't think like that.
Yeah they got a deal.
Yeah, make you feel it.
Oh, by Tiffany Diamond for one hundred thousand or thirty five thousand when it's worth ten thousand, and you think you got it.
You're like, oh, we'll give you this Daytona.
Right, they have everything in the back.
They just don't want to give it to you.
Speaker 3It's all there, it's all there.
Speaker 1Happened to me more than once.
Now I'm banned from all the ads.
Because of social media before it happened more than once.
You're banned from everywhere I go and they google you get out like like Mayor's and turn on band.
Speaker 2That's like like certain casino if you're like the casino because they're like a great deal.
Speaker 3So you're you're basically blacklisted from these places.
Speaker 1Wow, I don't care.
Speaker 3Now what about other other than role Like what's it like?
Speaker 1Cardio is a Cardier?
Is not good?
Autom Marpiger, protect Philly Richard Mill.
Speaker 3Now if you go into those stores, same thing.
Speaker 1Nothing.
Everybody did, the same thing.
Everybody did.
They got together and they said they're gonna build them monopoly, Like nobody can have it unless they build a profile.
And that's what makes you want something more.
Bro Imagine the girl tells you no, Yeah, what do you mean you tell me no?
Now you're on the chase.
We're hunters, we're men, we hunt.
Speaker 3You want to know why I'm gonna get Why?
Why not me?
Why him?
Speaker 1That's why Rolet's doing?
How come he can get it all because he just spent three hundred thousand on jewelry.
I want to do it too.
Speaker 3So it's such a psychological game.
Speaker 1Wow.
Unfortunately, eighty percent of the world are suckers.
They do it.
They do it.
Speaker 2Wow, I never even thought I can't believe that, And other people followed suit the same thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, you want to burke in for seven for fifty thirteen thousand retail go by blankets and pills.
Are you gonna wipe your ass with you gotta just pay twenty five thousand.
I'm gonna go through the whole kissing ass.
Yeah, go buy this, go by this by spoons, buy forks by this, you spent one hundred, you spend thirty thousand.
Oh, now you get a birket for thirteen.
What are you gonna do all the shit you bought?
You're gonna eat from those her mess poons, No, because there are mess So he's gonna all just waste the money just sitting there.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Wow, I never that's amazing.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, bro, dude.
My whole goal what I do is educate ils educated to teach somebody.
I always tell people I'm gonna go to a go They'll bang your harder than me because you'll get a detoy.
Now, but you're gonna spend one hundred ground.
Speaker 2Shit, you're like one of the first sales people or whatever that I've seen or talked to, and when the things that I have watched on social media where you almost are like you're like teaching as you're as you're doing business, you're teaching your consumer.
Speaker 3Does that make sense?
Ye?
Speaker 1That's what I want to do.
Change the game.
I've never seen that before, I know, because the whole point is what they teach is when we start is make as much money as.
Speaker 3You can get what you can't take.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, mine does not take.
I want to give, and when you give, then you'll get back.
See.
Speaker 3That's that's the difference.
Speaker 1That's how I know.
I'm a living proof.
That's the difference.
We went from nothing two and a half years ago once me and Josh started social media.
Now we have a retail store.
We're trying to open everywhere, and we're still making money.
We're not We're not hoss.
You know, of course, we're not putting tenth f You know, my dad told me when I started videos, to listen to my son.
You put ten fingers in your mouth.
You get in a choke, try to fit ten figures in your mouth.
You can't.
Five is enough?
Five will fit?
Put five?
And that's it.
Comis by us.
They want to put ten and ten the problems.
They want to make you bleed.
The coustomer's gonna bleed today.
He's never coming back to you tomorrow.
I don't care who it is.
Speaker 2Dude, that's like the greatest.
We gotta I gotta quote that.
That's fucking brilliant.
Speaker 1Well, the ten fingers and you know that what you just said.
Speaker 2If they bleed today, they're not coming back tomorrow.
That's I'm coming back.
Speaker 1I promised you.
Because how many celebrities I spoke to since social media starting.
They told me I'm sick and tired of getting banged out by these because of who I am.
I love what you do with They won't follow you because they don't.
It's fine, But as long as they wash they see what you do.
They tell me all the time I go to basketball games for that reason.
I say, my market, my our brand.
That's how I'm at Pete.
That's how I met a lot of these people.
They tell me, I love what you do and thank you for educating and because we're sick and tired of getting not even forget us.
Every customer.
Yeah, today a lady asked me, I want to buy a code from my husband on instat to Instagram and I told her, loll please don't buy that watch.
She's like, my husband wants it.
No problem?
First, I see no, I explained to her, why not.
If you still want to, I'll sell it to you, of course, and tomorrow you come back and you're gonna lose money.
At least I did the right thing and I totally not to buy it, so you can't tell me you screwed.
Speaker 3Well.
Speaker 2I did my part, you did your part.
I told you not to do it.
But then some people are just so they have to do.
Speaker 1Have rappers coming in.
I don't care.
I want that buzz down shit.
I want to shine in the club and I don't care what I lose.
Okay, no problem.
At least I did my due diligence and I told you, educated you and you do it all you want.
But a doctor he tells you have this one.
This you want to go treat yourself for now, that's your problem, right, same thing?
Speaker 2Yeah, wow, man, this is so cool.
Speaker 3This is fascinating shit.
All right, So now let's get.
Speaker 1Into the best.
Speaker 3I want to talk about the best.
Okay, so.
Speaker 2In your opinion, since you've been doing this okay when when, so I'll give I'll break it down like this, I'll do an example like this.
So I'm into I'm really big into sneakers, right, I love sneakers.
So I see all these like uh sneaker cons and all these different things with people hand in their Jordan's.
I have a lot of George.
I'm representing my Knicks here today.
I'm a diehard Necks fan.
Although it broke my fucking broke my heart.
Speaker 1They they always do.
I told my son from the beginning, I said, son, yeah, you dad's a Nick fan.
You're gonna be a Nick fan.
But I remember, they're gonna break our hearts.
They're gonna it's like they're gonna You're gonna be set climax of their gun.
Speaker 2You said something before we started here when when I first met you and you were like, you know, my son gets crazy.
And I was telling you, like I was in the city, I was performing, I was on stage, but they had it.
They have the Nick game in the green room, so like in between sets, I'm like watching the.
Speaker 3Game and my wife goes, your son can't do this anymore.
Speaker 2It was it was last year we were in the playoffs against the seventy six ers and we're winning by twenty I know we're winning by uh.
I think we were winning by six or seven points with twenty seconds stuff.
We lost and he just screamed my sons mother.
And by the way, he's fifteen at the time, motherfuck and go.
And he's like, he's a quiet, great athlete, great student, nice kid, respectful to teach us everything.
Speaker 1And it's but the motherfucker.
Speaker 3And he went into his bedroom.
Speaker 2And he slammed the door, and my wife said everything on his walls came off, and she goes, Paul, he needs to figure this shit out or he can't watch Nick games anymore.
Speaker 3And I'm like, well, he's kind of learning what it's like.
Speaker 1He's kind of learned.
The nineties were heartbroken in the finals with John Stark's missing that shot and all this stuff.
We're up three two, remember against Houston when Jordan was probably oh my god.
Speaker 2Yeah, So so going with the sneaker thing, right, So somebody will come in and all of a sudden, the guy opens the box and he's like, all right, this is a vintage pair Jordan three white cement something like that.
Speaker 3And the guy's like, I'm gonna offer you this.
Speaker 1I'm offer you that.
Speaker 3So when it comes to watch his Emoshal, what would you say when you get because you've seen everything, I'm so much and you've been in Hong Kong.
Speaker 2You've been here, so you've seen everything.
But what are the ones where you go, holy fuck?
Speaker 1That?
Watches?
Speaker 2That is like if you had to pick, if I had to say, pick, and if you can explain three watches right, if you could pick three watches that are absolute tops and undeniable.
Speaker 3Will hold their their worth right, will will hold all of the what.
Speaker 1Would you say?
Speaker 3And beautiful and amazing hold their worth?
Speaker 1I can't tell them.
Not a fortune teller.
My top three favorite watches are RM twenty seven oh two, which is about what for somebody that doesn't understand, like what Richual Mill?
It's about one point four million, I think.
Or I can't afford it.
That's my dream because this stuff I can't afford, Admitte, I can't afford it.
And this is a this is a Richal Mill.
Oh okay, so it's a watch, it's a brand, it's the it's the hottest brand.
Richard Mittri Milly.
I'm wearing it right now.
Speaker 3Richard Mill just watches three hundred and fifty k.
Speaker 1You never imagine it's that much money.
Just what it looks like a feeling.
It's like feel how light it is?
This watch is three hundred and fifty thousands.
Wow.
Yeah, it's fucking plastic.
Bro.
Speaker 3Yeah so now look, okay, so let me ask you something.
If that is plastic and not, what makes that?
Speaker 1Brandy remand yeah, all the big times where Richard millions, all the rappers, all the celebrities, all the F one drivers, all the tennis athletes.
What he did is he named his watches after athletes, Rafa Nadal, Bubba Watson, right, Felippe Massa, race car drivers.
He's smart.
He made them wear it.
Marketed.
People saw it.
It was this, you can I go to the gym with just watch.
I never take it.
I go to the gym, I work out, I played ball, nothing happens.
Speaker 3What yeah, so you said, is the Richard Mill which one is twenty seven oh two.
Speaker 1It's it's up there in.
Speaker 3The twenty set.
Richard Mill twenty seven oh two is one point four million dollars.
Speaker 1About that.
I didn't buy one.
I can't afford it, so I don't touch what I can't afford at least I admit it.
Right.
People try to start, I can't afford it one point.
Then there's ap Ap he makes a perpetual calendar blue dove.
We call it the Blueberry.
It's a beautiful it's four hundred and forty thousand dollars.
Now they called the Blueberry.
I can't afford it.
I still love that watch.
And that's what's one of my favorite watches, which is in retail is like probably one hundred k.
They're telling you for like four hundred and forty thousand.
Oh good luck getting one, right.
You can't get you, said Apa AUTOMARPG Yeah, ap.
And there's a patac the grill that protect is like the sixty three hundreds and stuff where it's like three four million dollars.
But that's pretty like a few money which I'm not even going to talk about because it's like a dream.
But something I can't afford but I didn't buy it is a fifty nine sixty eight A actually both, I mean actually sixty eight A.
Like a lot of people have one, like Pete and Drake.
They where it's like the orange drap Aquard.
That's also one of my favorite which retails fifty k sells for like one hundred and thirty thousand.
Speaker 2Oh, actually we I went out with my butt with Pete and he I remember seeing that.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah he has that orange one.
Speaker 3So the orange.
Yeah, that's a beautiful watch.
Speaker 1What's fifty retail?
Imagine?
And you're paying trip retail just to have that watch because Pattick won't give it to you.
Wow?
Speaker 3And which one did you say was the one that you can't even think about?
Speaker 1Because it's four million, sixty three sixty zero zero.
Speaker 2Now that's just somebody that just that's just somebody who has money to just like.
Speaker 1I sold one back then.
Wow.
Speaker 3I don't not spend much, but there's not a big demand.
But that's not a big demand, right R.
Speaker 1It's people with real money.
But that's a watch you put in a safe and never look at it again.
Speaker 3You're not wearing that watch out.
No, you're not going out.
Speaker 1With that Arab dude board.
They got the Arab money.
Speaker 3They got money, Like I wouldn't even fuck with that if I'd have that thing in a fun fine, I'm mature so well, like you said, that's unassuming, No, but I didn't think that.
Speaker 1I was like oh you know it's a casual, nice casual, go to the gym.
No, you know, people, if you know, you know, it's like a Porsche, right, if you know you know.
Yeah.
So Richidmill became the top.
Like so watch is a status right, Okay, the status game.
Yeah, that's better than the other.
So Richard Mill is on the top, and then the protect are competing Richard Mill.
More of the cow will protect more of the wolf Street button up CEOs.
Okay, you have Autumn mar So it's I think it's our em patic automor than rolls.
Speaker 3Okay, so Rolex is dropping down a little bit.
Speaker 1It's not dropping down.
It's affordable.
It's a people yes, Okay, I'd rather wear a steelyped than the gold rollings really for status, for status, I'd rather wear gold roll steeal ap th any gold rollers.
That's to me.
Yeah, it might be wrong, that's I'm giving you again.
It's my personal opinion.
Yeah.
Speaker 2Now, now my personal my personal thing is I always just go with look.
I don't care about status, right, that's it.
Sneakers is more bold for me.
Sneakers is both Sneakers is look.
But also there's something about being in the in the game of sneakers and having nice Jordan's.
And I've developed a thing with my fans where when I'm on stage and they announce me, they look at me and then they look down there and then people will go, hey, man, I was in the front.
I thought it was Jordan white cements because that's.
Speaker 1My I love.
Speaker 3I love that.
Speaker 2But a watch to me, I like it to go with the now fit.
I like it to look good.
I like a gold, sleek look.
Sometimes I do love the I do love the I don't know the name of it, so forgive me, but the the.
Speaker 3Gold, the gold, all gold Rolex, but with the white face.
Speaker 1I mean they make D Daytona's.
Speaker 3Yeah, maybe it was a So I want to get into that day day Daytonas.
Speaker 1It depends what you like.
That's fine.
Bough.
Speaker 2Let me ask you this question because you said the out of all of those levels, the rolex is probably the most affordable for the average for people that want to have a nice watch.
Uh, what are what are the best rolexes that aren't sport that's not a sport just like a really like a timeless classic piece that's always ajos?
Speaker 1What is it?
Forty one millimeter Dajos.
Okay, like everybody has one first beginner wash that you get as a gift for your bar mins for for this to get a da Jos, and it's timeless, like your first car.
Okay, on the Toyota people have on full street today, people driving BMWs that at eighteen of them.
So so I grew up.
My first go was a Nissan Ultimate.
I felt like I was on top of the world, driving old ass like you know, yeah, yeah, there was two thousand and one Ultimate.
I thought I was the ship.
I don't want the big ass you know that one?
Yeah, no, of course, Wait what year was it?
Two thousand and one?
Speaker 3I definitely remember.
Speaker 2I actually I actually was working in Queens at the time, and I know somebody that had that exact that exact car.
Speaker 1Yeah, Queen, That's where I was born, in Raisedment.
Really what part I lived there in Queens?
I live in Fresh Meadows.
Speaker 3Okay, I lived in I lived in Rego Park for a while.
Speaker 2When I was so talk about sales, before I got into before I got into stand up.
Uh, it was around two thousand, two thousand and one when I was like really starting to I dropped out of college.
Speaker 1To do it because people are like, man, you're funny.
Speaker 2You gotta do this, and uh, you know what my job was.
I went door knocking in Queens and I sold phone cable internet for a company called RCNER.
Speaker 3You did you did you ever get somebody knock on your door?
Speaker 1We have it to that at home.
My dad was religious, was only.
Speaker 2Okay, but do you remember the RCN so so they were like, hey, this is new, this this is like early two thousands.
Speaker 3Did we got fiber op on the ground.
I'm a fucking twenty one year old kid.
Speaker 2I dropped out of college to do stand up at night and I go five or out and they were like, you gotta knock.
You're gonna consolidate their phone cable internet.
It's you got to tell me.
You gotta tell them it's fifty times faster.
They're gonna get more cable channels.
The phone bill's gonna go down.
Speaker 3And I was in Fresh Meadows, I was in Rego Park, I was in Corona.
Speaker 2I was in all these places.
I would knocked doors at dinner.
I would knocked doors at dinner time, and I would go, hey.
Speaker 1Of it, how many notes did you get?
Dude?
It was worth feeling.
Speaker 2But I learned something.
I learned something, and I know that you're going to be able to appreciate this man.
And I love talking to a salesperson like you who came from the street and came from nothing and did what you do.
Speaker 3Is uh I I learned that.
Speaker 2Like I was young, I was twenty twenty years old and I made fifty at twenty one.
I made fifty one thousand dollars after dropping out of college knocking doors.
So I'm like, all right, this is something's bunny back, dude, dude, fifty something thousand dollars for a twenty year old kid in Queens in twenty five years ago.
I was making a living and then at night I would go I would go home, I would get you, and I would go to New York City and I would hustle and try to get on stage and tell jokes.
Speaker 3But it was not only knows.
It was how they said no, the fuck out of here.
And then I would hear like one of my partners or somebody I would be in the field to be down there.
Yo, I got threatened.
This guy chased me off his thing.
Speaker 1The fuck out you if you knock on my dormal I'm gonna fuck you up.
Speaker 3And I'm like, and I'm like a twenty one year old.
Speaker 2Kid, I'm like a twenty one old care It's just I'm gonna save you money on your phone bill and.
Speaker 1Like get the fuck out, you know, thinking it's a scam.
Speaker 3But what I did learn is I was about to be fired because my numbers were down.
And then I locked in when I.
Speaker 2Was about to be fired because I realized if I was about to be fired, then my way trying to get on stage would change and all that stuff, I'd have to go live back up state with my mom and do.
Speaker 3So I locked in and I became a supervisor.
I just locked in and I said, I said, every time I want to go home at night, I'm gonna knock ten more doors when everybody goes home, I'm an knocked ten more doors, and I'm gonna get it.
Speaker 2And I'm going to figure out a way to make these people.
And what I would do is I would say, hey, if I told you, if I just all I'm asking, you could tell me no.
This is this is when I started to figure it out and I locked in.
I go, you could tell me no, but I just want to ask you one question before you slam the door on me and before you tell me, so you get do you hook it like that?
If I can tell you that I one hundred percent can save you fifty five to seventy five dollars on your bills one hundred percent, would you do it?
Speaker 1If I could show you that?
And then they would just.
Speaker 2Go and I go, I will save you fifty five to seventy five dollars between your cable phone internet if you if you and I'm a twenty one year old fucking kid, twenty two, and they would go, You're gonna save me seventy dollars a month?
On my phone, I said, I am, I said, you got HBO?
What if I give you five hbos and you still save?
Speaker 1To fit this and do it?
Speaker 2I found a rhythm and once I found that rhythm, I was gone.
And then I started making money.
And then of course, when my comedy career went to where I needed it to go, then of.
Speaker 3Course, but it will.
Speaker 1I've been taking fired and they wanted to fire me.
Speaker 2They I think I told the story before, but I'll tell you because you appreciate it.
So getting a unit was one thing, right, So phone line would be one unit, cable one unit, and Internet one unit.
Speaker 1If you sold all three, it was a gold package.
Speaker 3It was three units.
So they go, they go, you gotta you're gonna be fired if you don't get forty one units this week.
Speaker 2They gave me a number.
It's impossible getting forty one.
Almost impossible.
There's no way I'm gonna get forty one.
But I worked my ass off and I ended up getting twenty six.
And nobody got twenty six that week, so they go, we'll keep you for another week.
And then I kept going, and then once I found the rhythm, then I became a supervisor.
I was twenty three years old and I had fifty year old men under me, and I'm like, I can't fucking believe it.
But I just I just was relentless, and I wouldn't stop, you know what I mean.
So when I see, like when you say, like you were twenty two years old or whatever in the streets and all of a sudden, you flipped your first you flipped your first watch, and you were like, and it was the same thing on stage, like when I got on stage and I started to get my first laughs and people and then big comedians would go, hey, man.
Speaker 3I keep doing this.
Man, you're funny and like it was my dream.
Speaker 2Then it's like you get it's the same thing with you, right, you do once you started flipping those watches and people started but you did something different too, You start to educate it.
Speaker 1Your style is different.
Speaker 3Yeah, your style is different, because I've been you can be the same.
Speaker 1You can't be as funny.
You can't tell the same jokes as this guy before you, right after you.
Speaker 2Right, if you got, you gotta be you, gotta be you, and it's got to be like my jokes have to be about my family, my perspective, my humor.
But I've been on forty seventh Street and I've been on all those places where you work, and you know what, I gotta be honest with you, and I think the reason why you're successful.
And I'm not saying this because you're here, bro, because you know I've spoke to people about you, but I watch what you do.
You're different and the reason why you're successful is you're different.
And the reason why you're going to go through the roof is because you're different, because you do the education thing and you tell people and listen, would I would be amazed.
If I went into a place, if my wife would be like, what Like if I went into a place and I was like, yeah, I went to see Mosha today that I went to the watch king and I told him that I wanted to and he said, no, you know what, go home and think about it before you spend that money on this watch.
She would be like, all right, well, let's go back to him, because everybody else is going to go give me the whatever, I'm just making up a number, Give me the third, give me the fourteen thousand.
Speaker 1I want the fourteen thousand.
Speaker 3And you're going, nah, you know what I want it.
I don't want it.
That doesn't make sense.
Go home and think about it.
Speaker 1Now.
Speaker 3I want to deal with you.
Speaker 1T come back.
Speaker 3That's crazy, that's crazy.
Speaker 1Will come back?
Two O just fine.
That means they weren't ready.
But if somebody's ready to add a tum will come back.
So sex Face success rate is there.
People just want to be hurt.
That's all Custom wants to be heard.
He wants to feel like the buying.
They're not buying their product, they're buying you.
They're buying your trust.
They trust you.
Yeah, you know, and once they trust you, they fall in love with you.
Speaker 3How many.
Speaker 2Athletes like what's the there's athletes that you deal with or people that love, you know, rappers, athletes people like that that love jewelry that you know.
Uh So I talked about it as my and my in one of my in my stand up hour that I did for Netflix, where my dad you know, my dad is like Sicilian.
Speaker 3Over the top, over the top.
Jewelry is my father's life.
My father will talk to you.
Speaker 2If you and my father sat down, you would talk watches and diamonds for fucking nineteen out.
He can't, you know, he's got the he's got the you know, the hairy chest.
He's got the hairy chest with the big chains.
And he goes, you know, I don't go for this wreck.
I said it, and he goes, I don't go for this rap shit.
Speaker 3You know.
But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2He goes those rappers, he goes they know their jewelry.
He goes those are he goes they they because he would he would.
Speaker 1My father would like watch rap videos for the to see the thing.
Speaker 2But how many of them will rappers, athletes, whatever, will tell their friends?
Speaker 3They all tell their friends, right, Yeah, and they come to you.
Speaker 1I mean, if they could they come, Some don't, some do.
It's up to them.
I won't push them to come.
I have celebrities will follow me my own d m A.
You want to come to my store?
Right?
If he wants, they'll come to me.
He'll ask me.
You know, I make a comment on one of his polls, maybe a last ye or whatever.
But I'm not.
I don't push.
People don't like to be pushed.
You don't want to go.
Speaker 2You want it, how much you want to try it, you want to buy you and oh yeah, I actually you know it's funny you said that much because I hate that.
I hate when I go into a store, especially and I'll go into a sneaker store and like I'll go into one of the places and he goes, hey, man, we got to these new joys, like, oh man, thanks, and I said, I'm just looking well, no, you know these, And.
Speaker 1I'm like, you're ruining this.
Speaker 3You're ruining my time.
If I want something, I'll tell you you're ruining my time.
Speaker 1Here.
Becaus walks and said, what are you looking for?
I'm not sure, all right, take your time looking for you me, I'm here or my guys will take care of you.
If a guy cousin I want to see this watch, I'll show what to him.
I'll explain to him or educate him and tell him what it's about.
And I'll do this also with the customer like you.
It's like, oh, I'm gonna shop.
I said, no, you should shop a run and anywhere you find that cheaper, I'll give you a thousand dollars over their price.
Wow, that's how comes from.
They can't beat my price.
So I always make him go hunt.
Then he'll come back.
Yeah, yeah, and you know he's coming back, right yeah.
And if he comes back, I won't say, oh, now that you left, so buy us unfort thinking, oh you love to come back.
The price is higher now.
Because they get buttered, I say, my offer is the same for ten years.
I mean, as long as the market is stable, that's the same offers.
Speaker 2It's such a it's such a shitty sales tactic to go, hey, man, if you leave, but when you come back, it's going to be more.
Speaker 1I always hated that too.
Speaker 3When they go, you know what they do, They always go, I can't guarantee.
Speaker 1I can't guarantee you.
I can't guarantee when you.
Speaker 2Come back because things change that I would always never I would never go back to those exactly.
Speaker 1Yeah.
I had a couple, two couples come from Detroit and they came just to talk.
They didn't want to buy nothing.
I don't care.
People come social media every day and I don't force something like we have to buy No, come see how I come, See where you're from, Tell you what you do, tell me why you love what, why you watch us?
And blah blah blah.
They can't.
They came to like you know, we were we were walking up and down the street looking for you, and people were forcing us to buy stuff and I don't want to buy nothing.
They were buying two bricks to necklaces and a bunch of jewelry for me just uninforced them.
Oh we like this how much?
Oh it's not like you know, it's fine, know how much.
Let's make a flip and I'm made experience out of it.
You know what?
Wait, what do you mean flip?
We flipped a coin?
Speaker 3You?
Oh so you because they do that in a secret thing, you'll do that.
Speaker 1We invented on forty seven Street, bro, Is that right?
Yeah, we invented it.
Four years ago, three years ago and forty sevensry.
Now everybody copies what we do.
Speaker 3Eait a minute, dude, now the fucking now now.
Speaker 1All the sneaker guys.
We invented it on forty seven Street.
Speaker 2Dude, this is nuts because so my stupid little thing at night to wind me down is I watched the videos of like sneaker con so we did the guy goes, the guy goes, all right, I'll give you a.
Speaker 3Four hundred seven hundred flip.
Speaker 1You know that we started that, so I believe it was being Moses.
We started friend of mine, uh huh.
I would be upstairs and he would like, yo, flip, let's flip a coin for your price, smart present.
And then it became a hit and I started doing on social media.
He started doing it, and everybody does it.
But forty seven Street is the is the founder of the coin flips.
Speaker 2I think the craziest one I saw in sneaker World, I think he goes.
I think it was zero two thousand flip.
Speaker 1I lost one hundred thousand dollars on the flip what Yeah?
David Dobrick YouTuber David do Brick, Yeah, I watched the video.
What one hundred k.
I love.
Speaker 3That's the sneakers A few thousand.
Yes, we lose two thousands, three times a day.
Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say, like a sneaker flip.
A sneaker flip is a couple thousand.
He records one hundred eighty out of ten.
Speaker 1I lose.
I don't care.
I want to lose.
I prayedis one hundred k.
I pray to lose the thousands, two thousand.
Speaker 3Guy, I don't care.
Speaker 1Yeah, because the customer will come back to me feels like he's a winner.
Yeah.
Now, I don't I lose my profidence, find self for cost.
You're happy you're coming back.
That's what I want.
I dude, I can't believe you started the fucking coin hundred thousand dollars flip forty seven Street started the flip.
I remember David came into my store.
Was in November.
It was November, November, no Anuary sometimes the winter time.
He called me.
He's like, listen, I'm coming in.
I want to see your watches.
He came in.
Speaker 3Super nice guy, bro, Yeah, super oh this is great.
Speaker 1He came in.
She's a paddic Tiffany.
I paid me and my partner paid then to ninety during COVID market dropped like one with like one seventy one sixty.
I couldn't tell him.
He's like, I like this, watch how much?
I said two hundred thousand.
He's like, no, that's too much.
So me like, like an idiot, I'm like, you want to flip one hundred or two hundred?
He's like yeah, what fuck?
I can't say no?
Like you do it?
I said yeah, I'll do it.
Like okay, I'll do it?
Oh fuck?
What do I do?
Speaker 3That's the You're adrenaline must have?
That's nuts.
Speaker 1Bro was in the air.
How long did that flip take?
Oh?
An hour?
Speaker 2I can't believe you start.
You started that.
That's a huge thing.
Speaker 1I see it that in real estate.
I see it in sneaker con, sneakers all these events.
I'm not a sneaker guy, but I see them.
Put my pee page.
But we and I'll debate anybody about this sneaker con real estate.
We invented forty sevens.
You invented the coin flipping.
Speaker 3That's amazing.
Wa Like what year would you say?
Speaker 1Like twenty twenty one?
Speaker 3Twenty twenty one is because I haven't seen it before.
Speaker 1Then yeah.
I remember me and Moses Caroll with that idea.
He was in my store shopping.
Then he flipped a coin.
I would tell m let's flip you like, He's like, let's flip because used to be gambling.
I don't gamble.
I have a whole that's the whole different story.
But it's exciting and it also I lost one hundred k.
I lost big.
What's the other big ones?
I lost?
Josh?
I lost seven in a row a month ago.
Seven flips in a row.
Oh my, five thousand each flip.
I bought seven watches and I lost the first one.
I won the next seven watchers I lost.
That was the worst streak ever.
It was like forty something thousand totals.
Speaker 2It's weird you say that because I just saw a guy online he lost eight in a row to the same guy.
And guy he sees the same guy call and and the guy sitting down who runs the sneaker team.
He goes, but I gotta beat you is something.
I gotta be a winner.
Let's just let's just do something.
Speaker 1And they did it.
He still lost.
He lost a game.
I walked out of Winter because I got the merchandise.
Yeah, yeah, bothered me because of the cult streak, and I was texting, I'm like, Pete, Bro, I'm fucked Bro.
I can't stop losing.
Speaker 3So you also, do you like the flip because it's a little destiny too.
Speaker 1It's a little bit of like a I like to flip because it makes it interesting.
Yeah, makes it.
It's just not boring.
So David Dorberg does We decided that if you want to to buy the watch for one fifty and we won't do the flip.
My partner's like, nah, do it for the content?
Who gives the fuck?
Was another fifty thousands?
Speaker 3Yeah, if we lose the viral and we lost, Yeah, that's That's the other thing that I wanted to talk to you about.
And this is something that Josh does for you, and it's it's I'm gonna say this in my business, it's in your business.
It's probably more more necessary.
Speaker 2I think I don't like that with social media, how it because comedy, you know, was always when I came up, My dream was it was just to be be funny, right, be funny and be the best at what you do.
Now you could have somebody up there doing some bullshit.
But if it goes IRA or something like that.
But in your business it's different too, because it's sales and it's you know, it's personality hits.
Speaker 3But when did the what what you know, by the way Josh is sitting off camera, Josh's dear friends with Mocha and also his uh you know, social media guy.
But when did that change for you guys?
Speaker 1Behind?
Yeah?
Speaker 2When when did like when did you realize like, oh, this is going from just in store doing this making money to oh shit, like was it like during pandemic?
Speaker 1Before pandemic, I was I'm the I'm the last guy who started doing tiktoks on social media.
Okay, because I'm older, I didn't know what that was.
Yeah, and then I saw the people started recognizing me from other people social media.
I'm like, you know what, let me try it.
If it hits, it hits, it doesn't hit, I still do yeah, I still do business up there.
Ray.
So I called Josh because I know Josh's parents.
He was nineteen at the time.
I'm like, bro, yeah, I know you know how to because what he would record he would do content for people washing my cars, and he would do content for them like charge them.
That's what he does.
That's his specialty.
Like, what do you think he's like, all right, he came one day.
We're open a TikTok where we have like two followers.
We mean, first Zado hit ten K.
I was I'm camera shy, but I was shaking.
Yeah, I couldn't.
I was so nervous.
Now it's like natural, like no, I can't rehearse, right, I gotta be wrang.
This is me worse you did to come with the questions.
Just someone asks you this what I started startering.
I like to be right.
I like to act myself sometimes like stupid something that don't but people resonate to me because I'm stupid.
Sometimes I'm smart, funny whatever.
Yeah, first of you did ten cats said Josh want to something, come again tomorrow.
He's supposed to come once a week.
He came again.
No, first of all was twice a week.
Right, then he came.
And then when it hit we had one via video go via like a million views.
I'm like, you know, dude, we're golden.
Yeah it's done.
Boom.
Yeah, people started coming.
Oh, let me see you, let me see.
We had a little little store like this in the back in the booth.
We're paying two thousand.
Now we have got our own private store or whatever.
So the social media just maybe pay my whole business.
Yeah, so instead of selling deal, instead of selling B to B, right business the business, I'll sell the same watch to the customer, Like I'll sell to the dealer.
I'll sell a dealer who has to make money selling to you or watch for fourteen thousand, I'd rather sell it to you.
Right.
I stopped my whole sale operation.
No whole sell you or the guy I'm for time she needs to watch for his customer will get the same price.
That's great.
Rather give it to you.
Right.
If you might sell her and make money, then you'll come back to me again.
Right.
I stopped the whole le cell operation zero.
If the guy needs it on call, well, the no problem.
The same price I give to you I'm giving to the whole seller.
Yeah.
Speaker 3What was the first video you guys did?
Speaker 1Like?
Speaker 2What was the so like the one that got your one hundred views?
Like what so like?
When you said that, what did you?
Speaker 3Yeah?
Speaker 1What did you do?
It was just a sale.
It was negotiating live.
Speaker 3On cam, just just a live negotiation.
Speaker 1Live and I say no, I'm gonna do the coin flips there.
That's what we did.
They went and when it took off, and that's fucking awesome.
It took off, It took off and it started going and going and going and going and going.
It's crazy.
I mean social media change my life.
What Yeah?
And I use it for the better.
Some people use it to hate.
I use it to love.
I always peach.
I love each other yea, no matter where you're from, who you are, and always helps you have to help each other.
Positive, like you say, positive, positive, always positive.
You know.
That's what this that's what the show is about.
Speaker 2And it's like it's about because it's easy to be negative, right, It's easy.
We could sit here and talk about fucked up shit.
We could talk about people that hate.
We could talk about shit.
But it's like that's not nothing.
Nothing that way moves up.
Speaker 1I love hate though.
It keeps me going.
And I go on live and people hate me.
Oh people hate you?
What drives you?
Right?
I take an ice cream at night.
I go on live every night, TikTok live, I take a still all right, guys start hating and I just watch it like a movie and it makes the next day I get up say I'm gonna prove everybody.
I'm gonna do it again.
I'll poo everybody wrong.
Yeah again, I'll do it again, and they hate more, and I'll do it again.
Keeps me going.
Everybody gives me compliments like okay, I'm ready there, no no, no hate me, tell me I'm like this, like this, like this fine.
Do you get hate from your own community?
From your Yeah, and I get hate for being where I'm from and whatever.
Speaker 3And yeah, well that's an unfortunate thing going on now.
Speaker 2But like people don't like your do people in your I guess you'd say your peers.
Speaker 3They don't like your they don't.
Speaker 1Like your tactics.
They tell him and he tells me everything.
So Josh is the one who gets old.
They don't they have little balls to company.
They go to Josh and then Josh called it like, yo, you heard what happened with this guy and this guy and that guy.
Because they'll tell him everything.
They will, they have no balls, will tell it to me and they'll tell them all your maushas like this, and Mushia's like that, and Musha's like this, or he's not doing right, he's educating too much or what not?
Too bad?
Guys, I'm gonna educate till the day I die.
That's what I'm here for.
That's who you are, right, I want to educate people.
Yeah, the comedian comes to you and helps you for help you get educated, right, one Ndred, somebody helps you.
Speaker 3I love the help, you know.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I always say, like, you know, I would I a would say.
Bill Burr was the one to really take me under his wing.
I opened for Bill for Bill Bill had was on the show.
And Bill saw me in two thousand and five and.
Speaker 1We became, we became, we became, we became.
Speaker 3Friends in seven and he saw something in me that you know, he was just like, man, I there's something about you I want to And I opened for Bill for a long time and he helped me.
Speaker 1He took me under his wing.
Speaker 2He helped me help and for open for Bill Burgh, Madison Square Guard, all these different things.
So when I see young comics that open for me, I never want to be preachy, but I want to tell them.
I want to tell them like, hey, make sure you don't get taken advantage, because this is how you could be taken advantage of.
Make sure you show up on time and make sure you don't show up to your gigs drunk, and make sure you treat the staff the lowest part staff, the lowest of the staff.
If you're in a comedy club and you walk through the kitchen and the dishwashers there, and the dishwasher smiles at you, you don't walk past him because there's a fucking dishwasher.
You go, hey, man, thanks, you know, hope you guys had a great weekend.
Speaker 1I did.
Speaker 2They said, yea, yeah, like you guys.
I had such a great time.
You got your everything you did made my crowd better tonight.
Speaker 3Thank you, guys.
Speaker 1You know what?
Speaker 2And I tell I tell young comics that, and it seems like that's what you're you know, that's what you're doing in your saying.
Speaker 3But you're gonna get it.
Speaker 2But what will happen if, like, will you?
I know it's cutthroat, so you'll have like a competitor of yours.
Will a competitor of yours fuck you out of a deal, even for like five hundred bucks, just because I don't want you to get it?
Speaker 1Yeah, they can't do and they try, but they can't love They can't.
Speaker 2I love it, But that that fucking answer and confidence with Do you see what he goes if they can't, it was such a secret.
Speaker 1Yeah, now they're all going.
Now they all go to Hong Kong.
When I'm already done.
I already retired.
But not everybody goals to try to do what either ten years ago, what I've been doing for the past ten years right now, This business a copycap business.
They'll see what you do.
Is you successful?
They're gonna come after you again.
If I'm buying a watch from you as a wholesaler, me and you have relationships.
No matter who comes to you'd rather sell to me because you like me more.
It's all about liking some much like you'll tell to be five hundred dolls does, but you like me, have relationship.
We work so much together.
We trust each other and self to This guy's gonna offer you people come to my guys, I'll give you more money.
Don't sell them like no, we don't care.
They don't call me like, yo, this is your boy.
Look what he's doing.
Nobody's my boy, right right?
Very few friends I have yeah, yeah, close friends after work.
Nobody's my boy.
Yeah.
Nobody uh married kids or have kids?
Three kids?
Yeah?
Okay, yeah, Younger thirteen eleven.
Oh yeah, you're in two.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, I got I got just sixteen and just thirteen.
So my little boy's about to get his car and he I will tell you what.
My son, Lucas, who's sixteen, he's uh, he's a phenomenon.
He's a basketball player in the high school.
He's one of the top players in varsity.
He's a baller and taller.
No, he's uh, he's.
Speaker 1No.
Yeah.
Speaker 2Both of his grandfathers, thank god, or six feet so right now he's almost five ten.
But dude, he dunked the other day and he's the biggest Jalen Brunson fan you ever meet.
Speaker 1Like, hey, today you will be five plus and you'll make it.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Back in the day where we grew up, you saw like one or two of them.
But the funny thing is my son, as much as he loves sports, as much as he loves sneakers, he's he's like his grandfather where he loves jewelry, he loves watches, and he loves he loves colognes, and I go, I go.
And he started loving colognes and watches and jewelry at like thirteen, and I go, what fuck it?
And I go oh, it's a grandfather's my father because my father can't.
Speaker 2Really, my father won't can't growing up with my father, you know, they got divorced when I was five.
My brother was ten, so my father we visited him.
But I couldn't talk.
Speaker 1To my father about things except like jewelry.
My father would talk change.
Speaker 3Look at this chain just hey, do the kids want just Lucas and Sophia, what do they want when they come?
Speaker 2I got old change for them.
Look, I got seventy watches.
And now my son, it's in.
It's in him.
He looks at it, he touches it.
Speaker 1It's summer.
Speaker 2You know what his big his new thing is.
What he wants is I think he wants h I think he wants a chain Tom.
Speaker 1To come to forest that was to work for me.
That works.
Just come run around for it there to I do screwed games with the kids, right, Oh, do you I tell a kid, here's a watch.
I did it yesterday, I do it once a week.
Here's a watch.
That's how much I need.
You're gonna sell.
You're gonna make this amount of money and you keep the rest of the money.
That's what it does.
And I tell them where to go?
Who to go to?
Really?
I have these fourteen fife year old kids come, make two three hundred dolls a day, get excited.
They go home like, oh my god, I can make real money.
Like, yeah, now everybody's meant for college?
No I would.
I I couldn't last a day in college.
I have too much add So, guys, like, let's say you and I would drop the hour, didn't go to college at least, okay, you could just stand up.
Not everybody gets.
Speaker 3Lucky, like no, I dropped out, and I can pay attention to me too.
Speaker 1I still can't pay attention, but not everybody.
I don't.
I can't pay attention.
Yeah, but you, thank god, you got lucky.
Some kids don't have that opportunity.
They're not driven like you were.
So what they do is I try to give them an opportunity to succeed.
And don't go to the streets and make trouble.
Don't go out robbing people or something for money.
Come to forty seventh Street.
I'll teach you, I'll treat you, I'll teach you a trade.
But you need to go to college for it.
Have to be a genius to do what we do.
Yeah, and you'll make money.
That's what the kids come.
They come every single day.
I turn them down.
I do it once a week.
Now, wow, they come every day for squid games.
Speaker 3Well yeah, that's you know, it's true what he says.
Some people aren't cut out for it.
No.
Speaker 2I remember listening to the teacher was telling a story about how his wisdom to professor of college is talking about his fucking wisdom team, and I remember going like, why the fuckm I'm paying for this and I don't need to hear I should be telling a story.
I'm fucking done this this.
First of all, it's not even funny.
He's not good at telling the story.
And I was like, I'm trying to be a comedian anyway, I'm wasting my parents mind.
I'm getting the fuck out of here.
And I just you know, because it's it's not meant for some people.
But you had to I believe this.
You had to do what you do.
There's nothing that you in my opinion, you're a twenty two.
Speaker 1Year old, do you really?
I love what I do.
But I was always wondering to be like, so you would give this all?
You would give nothing nothing, So if you.
Speaker 3Could be a surgeon tomorrow.
Speaker 1You wouldn't do it.
No, this is it, This is it.
It is my calling.
Yes, it's the same I'm calling.
It took me a long time.
I felt we've been through helling back, but I found my calling.
Bro, I would I said, I want to one day, I want to be just for one day, right, just for one day, and that's it, just for one day.
Always just always gonna be curious and you always gonna always think about it.
Yeah, you know, because that's what I wanted as a kills my dream.
Speaker 2I think you just touched on something really true and a special thing is that, like when you want something and you.
Speaker 1Go for it.
Speaker 2Like somebody said, what would you do if your kids wanted to do stand up comedy?
And I said they would have to do what I did, and I don't want them to do it.
Speaker 1Oh.
Speaker 2My mom lived upstate by Poughkeepsie, and I remember getting in a little Toyota Troussell.
The only reason, the only reason why I was able to get to the Toyota tor Cell because I was at Mohegan's son and I hit a fucking three card poker for two grand.
So I bought a toylet to cell so I could deliver pizzas.
It's just a true story.
Yeah, I'll tell you what I did.
I it was the first time.
It was the first time that three card poker became a game in casinos.
Speaker 3You know, three card poker, right, it was, it was around the first It was early.
It was like a ninety eight, ninety nine that game got it started.
That games only existed for you know, twenty five, twenty six years.
So my buddy and I were am his son, and we kept hitting a flush, which pays six to one.
Speaker 1We kept hitting it, but I was bent like a bitch.
Speaker 3I'm like cause I'm like, you know, I'm delivering pizzas.
I'm young.
Speaker 2So he goes, man, we gotta go we keep hitting a flush, we gotta go higher.
So I go, all right, man, all I could do is fifty.
So I put fifty down and I look at the cards and I got Queen.
I got yeah, I got Queen King Ace of Diamonds, And I just look at him and I go, I go, buddy, I go like it didn't register first, I go, dude, I think I got a royal flo you know, And He's like, really really, all of a sudden, oh, everybody at the table collapse.
They give me the black chips, they give me two thousand.
So what I did was I gave the kid who was my friend sitting next to me a hundred just for sitting next to me.
And I gave the kid who drove a hundred.
And then I took a hundred to go to roulette and I lost that.
So I ended up leaving with the seventeen or whatever.
I put it in my pocket and my friend goes, how can you leave now?
He goes, that's what Right when I would be taking my I said, no, no, no, I need a car.
Speaker 1So I need a car.
Fuck that.
Speaker 3I got a toy let your cells delivering pizzas.
But I was able to drive from upstate to go to New York City.
But the only rooms that would put me on when I started pete tell you this and this is was would be the urban rooms, the black rooms.
So they would go, okay, you take your funny, you're get in five minutes.
You're not getting paid two hundred and fifty.
You know, urban black audience members.
If you're not funny, you're gonna get booed.
So I would drive up there.
I remember parking my car in Harlem, nervous as shit, scared ship, but I had to do it.
Speaker 1I had to do it.
And I went on.
Speaker 2Stage like yo, man's fuck just white boys and times funny for you know, and all of a sudden, so I kept doing it.
But I think of I don't want my kids to do it unless you love it like that.
I don't want them to go through the driving, the no money, the ansio stuff.
But it's like sometimes like you get your calling, you get your calling.
Speaker 1I mean, you're right.
I don't want my kids to go through it too, but sometimes they need to.
Like my son's gonna come in the summertime, he's thirteen, He's gonna work for me.
Is he does?
He got that?
Well you can oh, I didn't have it.
Also, forty seven Street changed me.
I came in there as shy, twenty two year old kid.
It changed you, huh, it became crazy.
I mean I was quiet, I was shy, I was to myself.
I was reserved, still shy.
Yeah, yeah, you seem like you got that.
Speaker 2Like when you walked in and I saw you, I was like instantly, and that's why because but uh, our mutual friend.
Speaker 1Pete that he's he goes, he goes, he goes, You'll love this fuck.
Speaker 2He goes, he goes, this guy, you're gonna you know, yeah, shout out of Pete Davidson, uh this.
But he was like, uh yeah, he was like, oh, you're gonna You're gonna love this guy.
So before we get out of here, let me just ask you this.
I want to ask you two questions before we.
Speaker 1Get out of here.
Speaker 3What's the best advice you would give to somebody that wants to go and buy a nice watch maybe, and and what's the best advice you could give them to not make mistakes?
Speaker 1Don't as many questions you want, don't be scared, ask ask, ask, ask, ask till you're.
Speaker 3Comfortable, and don't buy first time out.
Speaker 1You could if you comfortably know what you're buying right Always, you buy, you buy the the you buy the seller.
You don't buy the product.
I say, correctly, I'm gonna educate it.
So you buy the guy who's selling you the watch.
Basically, yeah, you don't buy the watch itself.
You buy from somebody you trust, so tomorrow something goes wrong, he's always gonna be there for you, okay.
Speaker 2And what would you say to somebody last question.
And I know you don't probably deal with these people a lot, but I have to ask this question because my I have people that aren't too watches.
Somebody's got fifteen hundred, two thousand dollars and they want to buy a nice watch.
Speaker 1But that's all they could afford.
You buy this other brands, Omega, Swatch, tag Lings, Cardier's Panoraise Eu blows will Sell bro Sell.
Speaker 2I got to tell you something.
Can I tell you one of my favorite watches?
I swear to god, one of my favorite watches I got in Berlin, Germany.
Speaker 1It's a Swatch.
Yeah, who curious?
They never died.
They never fancy watches die.
But that's the point.
It's like an ip ye.
Speaker 3Yeah, but charge the phone.
But it's like a you know, fucking range Rover.
There's always in the shop.
Speaker 1Somebody told me the best phone ever, the first The first Nokia is bad.
We lasted for three weeks.
Let's just plase snake up.
Yeah, yeah, the big phone is nothing today.
The iPhone is so fragile you sneeze and brace.
I gotta buy a new one.
Yes, what it is?
Speaker 3Why is the expensive car always going to shop?
Speaker 1You know?
He's a car guy.
Speaker 3You know a car doesn't t And I gotta say this because I got a Flex because it's my favorite car.
Speaker 2I've did research on all the cars.
I think I have the best car.
I think I have the most reliable car is a Lexus Bro.
Speaker 1They don't die.
Oh it's his favorite car.
Speaker 3Am I right right, dude, I'm gonna tell uh see.
Speaker 1That's why I see.
Josh knows.
I'm gonna tell you.
I got a ES three fifty.
I got it up to I got ES three fifty.
Speaker 3I got it up to one hundred and seventy thousand miles, and I go, I have to get another one.
Speaker 1So I went.
Speaker 2I got a brand new at the time, I got a brand new twenty two.
I got a twenty two ES three fifty.
Guess how many problems?
Speaker 1Zero?
Speaker 2My wife, she's got the Lexus SUV zero.
We've had Lexus for over ten years.
When I did my research, I'm Mercedes.
I'm BMW on everything.
If you want some sport and comfort and luxury and reliability, Lexus Bro.
And I'm not just saying that because I got it affordable, but a beautiful Joe Rogan was told.
Rogan was talking about her other thing and he goes, listen, he goes, I had three of them.
They never fucking die, They just they just you know.
But then you've then somebody was like, hey, I got a three hundred thousand dollars fucking audio and guess what the thing is in the shop?
Constantly range over the thing is in the shop Lexus.
Bro Right, I'm telling you you had.
Speaker 1A Lexus before, and you got to be going back to Lexus.
But why don't people follow suit?
What do they do?
Speaker 3It's it's why certain things are better.
Speaker 1There's no illusion.
Lex does not have the illusion.
We want the illusion.
People buy illusion, people buy social media.
Think social media is real.
I think this sees fake.
Yeah, people on the private planes, fancy cars and this ship, and that's what they want.
That's their role model.
And they understand there's all the front you know, you know the emptiness, right, yeah, you know that that TikTok.
Speaker 2You know that they have a place where you could sit, you could sit in what looks like a private jet, but but it's on the ground.
So these people what they're doing is they're going into like a set like we're sitting on the podcast, but it's it's a tube like a private jet and they're sitting on there going like this, eating and it's and they're not even I've never been a private took.
No, but they're in a studio.
So so that's that's like the they want to show.
Speaker 3Hey, but it's like you ain't.
Speaker 1Fucking if you got money.
No, people have, people have the real money.
Speaker 2Somebody who's on a private jet isn't pointing at their watch on a private jet.
Speaker 1With a glasses.
I have a friend I did a podcast.
His name was Ed Clay.
I love that guy.
He has a private jet.
Whatever never wants posted on social media.
No, never, no never.
He's the young guy like our age is probably your age more than mine, but never because people with real money, yeah stunt people with real money don't.
But we got a stunt our.
That's our business.
Flashy yeah yeah, jewelry, flashy as fuck, but that's what we gotta wear.
What you sell, you gotta believe in what you sell.
Speaker 2Well, you know, the reason why you're as successful as you are, I could tell in a second is because of who you are and how you handle your business.
Speaker 3Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2Oh dude, mosha himof right, dude, the watch King right here, his boy Josh.
Check them out, check out their social media.
Go down to forty seventh Street and talk to this man.
Trust me, I mean, I'm sure you're sawing.
Speaker 1The west forty seven shoes that address.
Our handles are at the Washington YC.
All of them.
Speaker 2Thank you so much for being here, guys.
For my dates, I'm going to some theaters near you.
Go to Paulversey dot com.
My special right now, Reasonable Man is streaming right now.
My Netflix special is also coming to my YouTube channel, and so is the Comedy Central one.
Speaker 3So all of my stuff I own.
You could check that out.
Speaker 2Go to punch up Live dot com, slash Paul Verse, and for all my dates, like I said, go to my website.
I will see you guys on the next Paul's Best podcast.
Thank you to the watch Kin go check them out and we will see you guys next week.
Speaker 1Thank you,
