[SPEAKER_00]: All right, try to meet now.

[SPEAKER_00]: Love having him on the pod.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he is, as you, if you're watching here on YouTube, you can see showing off the WWE on this beautiful, heavyweight championship.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is the new champion.

[SPEAKER_00]: Once again, the American Nightmare Cody Rhodes, Cody.

[SPEAKER_01]: How are you?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really good.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel it's nice to have the hardware to show off.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's more than nice.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, no, I'm actually as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: And a bit of the wrestling history, just beneath my feet, I'm in the arena in Montreal, the Bell Center, right here in the hole.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a good job.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's the famous hallway.

[SPEAKER_01]: It still looks the exact same.

[SPEAKER_01]: So just walking here, I've told everybody who is leading me this way that this is wrestling history, we're walking out.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it all centers around the WWE title.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, how are you doing?

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing, I'm doing well, you know, trying to enjoy this summer.

[SPEAKER_00]: For my job right now, it's all about get to football season.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're trying to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: So try to get these three weeks to go by quickly, get to football season and that's when all the, all the fun in my world starts to happen usually.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's a little bit old school, the stretch to football.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, for what I do with content and sports media, I focus so much on sort of like the announcers and the business, you know, the games, the broadcasts of the games and there's nothing like the NFL in this country.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why, you know, I college football too, I should say, which I know you're a big college football.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was enjoying you putting your picks on Instagram stories, but then I think you stopped or something.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's not enough knowledge.

[SPEAKER_01]: College picks are our college picks are good for me because I follow college pretty pretty well.

[SPEAKER_01]: I had my my spot on game day as a guest picker one time college picks okay, but the NFL when I say old school my dad was very similar and when the NFL wasn't on it was kind of this lost period of what do I [SPEAKER_01]: What do I watch?

[SPEAKER_01]: What do I do?

[SPEAKER_01]: And if his team in baseball wise wasn't winning, he didn't watch basketball enough.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, no, I made it through the picks back on.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not too shabby when it comes to my NFL picks.

[SPEAKER_01]: My love is just, is the SEC in college football.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's just where my art is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's, I mean, the biggest conference.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I was always interested in your picks.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because I sort of, um, [SPEAKER_00]: I like to bet against what everyone's picking.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if I see you on the trend as well, that helps inform me to go the other way.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what's the, you know, it's always fun to be right when you've got kind of a wild card pick.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's always fun and college football is I think more than ever with the conferences changing and the way they've changed just in the past few seasons, like seasons, college football is pretty unpredictable again, which I love.

[SPEAKER_00]: hundred percent.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, again, Alabama is probably going to be nine times out of ten, but maybe it's starting to become like eight times out of ten, where there's that little element of, you know, it could happen.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Georgia, obviously, close to your heart, they dominated in recent years.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to be happy about that.

[SPEAKER_00]: She can't even dominate it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dogs are back to defense is back defense dogs.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think that I think it's going to be a hell of a season.

[SPEAKER_00]: looking forward to that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And as I was saying when about dominating, you're coming off summer slam by all accounts.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you feel about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just curious from what I saw.

[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone loved your match against John Cena for idea of reasons.

[SPEAKER_00]: To you, you know, there's that old sort of, um, added, I guess, where, you know, if you pay attention when people are complimenting you, you have to pay attention when they're not complimenting you.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, how do you, are you, [SPEAKER_00]: do you take a lot of satisfaction when there's a good reaction to a monster match like that?

[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you say, listen, my job is my job, whether they respond that way or not?

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel, I'd probably be lying to you and I think most people would be lying to you if they said they don't love a little pad on the back, they don't love a little attention when you do something that is universally praised.

[SPEAKER_01]: But also, I don't take it with such a heavy, oh my gosh, I'm the man.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is that moment.

[SPEAKER_01]: The same way I don't take it when it goes the other way.

[SPEAKER_01]: When there's a negative outlook on your match or even a universal negative outlook on your match, that just comes across as, you know, as Mr.

Hamon will say, and people say all the time, every time we go out there, it's just an audition for us to be able to come back.

[SPEAKER_01]: With that said, though, with Summerslam, there are a couple moments in the match where I did realize we were definitely in a good place.

[SPEAKER_01]: The audience is always going to let you know.

[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, a stadium where the sounds usually going up because there's no roof on that life.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you have, you know, sixty thousand people or whatever, where you can hear them very well.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was a good indication that when I watched this back, if I do watch it back, they were violent.

[SPEAKER_01]: They were enjoying it.

[SPEAKER_01]: They were on the roller coaster with us versus us just showing them a roller coaster.

[SPEAKER_01]: So there was definitely a few moments that I got to stop smell the roses and have an appreciation for the moment at SummerSlam.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was a very physical match.

[SPEAKER_00]: How did you feel in the moments right after it?

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a photo of me laying down right afterwards.

[SPEAKER_01]: I had a little dressing room right over by Gorilla.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's a photo of me laying down on the floor and it's very telling.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just laying face forward and I'm holding on to my side.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's very telling that I was certainly [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say injured by any means, but I was hurt.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was banged up.

[SPEAKER_01]: One little rib on the left side, really bothering me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Back in my calves, all kinds of stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: I could list you these little, they're just a little, what I'd say, like a little Nick Mack.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big advocate and you'll always wrestle hurt but don't wrestle injured.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I am lucky that no injuries.

[SPEAKER_01]: I left there no injuries.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe he has any injuries and that's a good night at the office.

[SPEAKER_00]: So when you have those little knick knacks, does it take a day, two days, three things when you start feeling yourself again or do they linger?

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it could take a day or three days for you to feel, I mean, as you get older, it takes a, you wake up the next day and feel completely different.

[SPEAKER_01]: However, um, I got a four-year-old daughter and four-year-old daughter who has missed me for the whole week because I've been pregnant for Somerslam.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then we go on this hamphin strip, uh, something on Anderson told me a long time ago, no matter how bad you feel.

[SPEAKER_01]: Don't take a nap on that day after the match and be there.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I was picking her up.

[SPEAKER_01]: We were running on the beach.

[SPEAKER_01]: We got a kite.

[SPEAKER_01]: Probably going to post the video on Instagram.

[SPEAKER_01]: We actually got a kite up in the air.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think with her in mind, I was able.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was good.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was good.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got a different type of rest if that makes any sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, as you get older, it used to be, oh, I could do this again tomorrow.

[SPEAKER_01]: I could do, people, I could wrestle a bear.

[SPEAKER_01]: But somewhere between thirty five and forty, it did start to become, ooh, that next day.

[SPEAKER_01]: That next day is a little rough.

[SPEAKER_01]: My wife heard it a bunch, because I kept telling her, she'd asked me to get up to do something.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be like, ah.

[SPEAKER_01]: had a really tough match to just give me and that give me a second means could you please get that soda out of the fridge and not me.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm I'm okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's good to hear because you're going to be busy now because like I said, you're your champion once again.

[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Big is difference for you personally winning at this time, then last Russell Mania.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did it feel the same or how different did it feel.

[SPEAKER_01]: I took a moment, it's actually before the match, before winning it, and before John Annie, it's me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I took a really, I thought I would be, I thought this memory would be way more present.

[SPEAKER_01]: But then as I was under the stage, [SPEAKER_01]: hit me and I'm shocked I didn't remember this that is the stage I went and hit under after my match got cut at WrestleMania twenty nine so the same place I'm getting in the elevator to rise up and hopefully [SPEAKER_01]: get number two and win the WWE Championship.

[SPEAKER_01]: The same place I'm going on while everybody else has got their boots off and watching is where I set, you know, in my feelings after getting a match cut, meaning my match was taken off the show minutes before it happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: When I realized that and I'm coming up is where I really wanted to kind of take stock of every feeling I had.

[SPEAKER_01]: So the first time WrestleMania of forty was a completely different feeling because I felt like I was capturing something that involves so many people.

[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, my dad trying to finish his story.

[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, all the medley of characters that were involved in the big schmaz at the end.

[SPEAKER_01]: This one [SPEAKER_01]: felt I think selfishly a little bit for me in terms of see I told you and not in a mean spirit away but see I told you I was a I was the right guy for the job and I've been the right guy for the job but nobody believes that when you're another wrestler as much as you can I make somebody go through it and put me through it and and that feeling in there felt very much gosh I guess the best way to put it Jimmy is it felt like I'm the champ [SPEAKER_01]: The first time, I don't remember thinking to myself, I'm the champ.

[SPEAKER_01]: This time, I felt like, yeah, I'm the champ.

[SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't you feel like you were the champ the first time?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think because of all the emotions and the rest of me to forty everything that was going into it and the component of the final boss and just the road, I might have had too much [SPEAKER_01]: of my vision on the road ahead if it happens.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what could be versus this one?

[SPEAKER_01]: It just felt like yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't lying to you guys.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't keep doing this.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to move the goal post, move them.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to tell me I'm not telling me, but I'm going to do what I did tonight.

[SPEAKER_00]: Was, so you were champion originally for a year.

[SPEAKER_00]: You wanted it WrestleMania against Roman, then you lost it at WrestleMania against Cena.

[SPEAKER_00]: Was that year as champion everything you expected?

[SPEAKER_00]: Was it more were you happy with your year as champion?

[SPEAKER_00]: Were you satisfied?

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if anyone's ever really like satisfied.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't mean for those watching, I just had like a grown face because I don't know if you're ever really satisfied.

[SPEAKER_01]: when there's always things you can do to improve your wrestling in terms of in-ring, bell the bell, waist to improve wrestling, waist to improve your matches.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think from an area that will always make you feel good as a wrestler from an inside perspective in terms of how you deliver as a champion on the measurable, as you know, whether that's what we know what they all are, because now we all talk about them, you know, that's vibrates or merch or our subscribers are [SPEAKER_01]: Just, you know, tickets, of course, being the biggest one.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that area I had a goal in a very material goal, a very inside goal of wanting to be the best in a year that anyone could be.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that was accomplished.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that's certainly something that when I leave the wrestling game, whenever that comes, gosh, knows when I'll be able to look and say that you can't take that portion away from me.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I feel like [SPEAKER_01]: I love that all this data is available to fans now to be able to say, hey, another year of record business.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a big, that's a big thing with potentially if I ever was to go, you know, the dark side ever go bad guy.

[SPEAKER_01]: it's definitely possible i don't i feel like sometimes i i'm too heavy handed with how i say oh no it'll never happen oh i'm sure it's possible and maybe it does but anyone who tells you hey he's better as a bad guy has been living on a rock for three years of record business so i i do have this state [SPEAKER_01]: from a looking at it on the board, no, was not better.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe unproven because it never did it in a major, like a major major setting, like with WWE's platforms.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that's probably one of the things that leaves Dallas as to far as, oh, if I did, would it still be as good?

[SPEAKER_01]: It could it be.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I bet it could.

[SPEAKER_01]: I bet it could.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe one day.

[SPEAKER_00]: I always find it a music when the guest takes my next question without me asking it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I wanted it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say, I was going to say, I don't want to get into you being a pop.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say, I want to just do two quick things here on the Summer Slime match with John Cena and then transition to.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you have a lot to cover with Unreal.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're being a podcast host, the ESPN, a couple other funny things.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I just wanted to do the two things on the scene match, which was one [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to use to term everyone.

[SPEAKER_00]: I always usually do that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of people thought you were turning heel that night.

[SPEAKER_00]: Was it even ever a discussion?

[SPEAKER_00]: And what I do want to know is, if and when you ever do turn heel, is that a group decision with Triple H, Nikon yourself, or can you go to Triple H and say, I think this is the time I want to do it now, or can they say to you, hey, where you're boss, we want you to do this now, even if you don't want to.

[SPEAKER_00]: Take me through that whole process, because everyone was expecting a big heel turn.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so I play for the team, so if the coach tells me this is what we're doing, I might have a question or two about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can weigh in objection or not or a comment, but also that's the whole quarterback element.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to run the play.

[SPEAKER_01]: So when discussions like that, unreal's kind of shed some light on this, but you have that writer's room at Coskey's right there.

[SPEAKER_01]: You have Triple H.

Of course, the final boss always present in a way.

[SPEAKER_01]: And Nikon, that would be a big discussion that we would all have.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think heading into any event, not just SummerSland, any event, Triple H as a leader likes to lay out every single potential road we could go down.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because [SPEAKER_01]: you might find something on the road that you don't you don't go down that road but you think of oh when we do he's just very good about getting the pulling the room in terms of what wolf we did that what does it look like where would it go is it just for shock is it not and I love that you know unreal is lifting this veil a little bit here today but I jokingly just told that crew because I just didn't interview the unreal guys I kept hearing the phrase double turn [SPEAKER_01]: Double turns a little more complicated than people think.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know it shouldn't be.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm waiting for, I have a bounty out if one person can actually tell me what that means.

[SPEAKER_01]: And they're gonna say the thing that sounds the most simple and that's not what a double turn is.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not gonna get into it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Cause fans are always right.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's very much, I have learned my lesson whenever you try.

[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever you try to mansplain something, you end up just coming off as a dick, not to use foul language here, but you know, like, [SPEAKER_01]: The fans are very much in control of what we do.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing this music and we're honored to be in front of them doing it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, if it was discussed, it didn't go far.

[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't go, I don't think it got to me by any means.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because I would have some ideas on maybe how I would execute it and what would happen.

[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I think if you're trouble-age and you're looking at three years of record business and you're looking at your team as it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: Rear Ripley, who's a face to the company.

[SPEAKER_01]: See him, punk, who's a face to the company.

[SPEAKER_01]: Seth Rounds, who's a face to the company.

[SPEAKER_01]: A young, brown breaker who's on his way up.

[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob Fattu, on his way up.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you look at your team, [SPEAKER_01]: If you move a piece in a big way, does it affect the rest of the team?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do we keep running?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do we keep record business?

[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows what it may be?

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that's the discussion that this company and the way it's done today.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a team effort.

[SPEAKER_01]: Honor is going to make the call, but he's got a good war room of people to weigh it all out.

[SPEAKER_00]: I also think too, and this is me coming out is a Cody Roach fan and not a podcast or interviewing you.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's a big, big part of me that would like to see you turn heel for the entertainment of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I also like the fact that they didn't do it there when everyone was expecting it.

[SPEAKER_00]: You shouldn't do it when everyone's expecting it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It should come when no one's expecting it.

[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that there was this build-up that it was gonna happen, I'm glad it didn't, because I'd rather, I mean, I know it probably goes against the business of like making money, but I think it's actually more effective if you do it on a random SmackDown.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's this, it's like a holy shit moment.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's just my opinion.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I, I, I think, I will say this in terms of that actual, the H-E-E-L moment when it, when and if that ever happens, [SPEAKER_01]: The more we rack up as a baby face and the more I learn and build connections with the audience, not the less likely it becomes, but the more complicated it becomes.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because if it was to happen and then they start cheering it happen and it wasn't what we wanted it to be.

[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a threat.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is it mean it can't not work, but I am very old school and I'm not not not anyone who wants the entertainment or the shock value of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if that was ever a road to go down, I'd want to be basically canceled.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'd want to be scum of the earth villain.

[SPEAKER_01]: And as I branched out my character in the American nightmare and the brand and all the things, it becomes a lot more complicated.

[SPEAKER_01]: The more your hands get into other elements of WWE, if that makes any sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I got you.

[SPEAKER_01]: The more I've been able to connect and have a really great time with the audience, the more it just becomes complicated and becomes maybe too big a risk.

[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can tell you that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who knows?

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not me.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think he would be great at it.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I want to see it.

[SPEAKER_00]: The lesson I wanted to touch on on that match was you were booed during that match.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Were you expecting the booze?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because it was a big moment for John.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was expecting it to be a little more because Vegas was kind of an anomaly of a crowd, just a different type.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so I assume maybe that will happen.

[SPEAKER_01]: I call it an away game.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, hey, this is going to be an away game.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I knew from Friday.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then when I heard my entrance on Sunday, I thought, oh, [SPEAKER_01]: No, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I got, you know, I always try to do the thing where you make eye contact and you find your people's and your young ends and your little kids.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I always, I was looking and I saw so many, you know, in the red, white and blue, so many with their signs.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt, [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe it's a different, you know, everyone always thinks of New York as such a, like a almost not volatile, but a hard market.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they forget that their WWE is home base, New York, New Jersey, can add it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's all the baits right there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I was expecting it to be a little bit more about the time I hit them with the ring strut.

[SPEAKER_01]: Those booze.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was expecting that from the jump which are great because it's a real challenge for you as a performer and a competitor to it would be real fun to pretend to be some slimy bad guy or go the you know as people often joke the homeland or out.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's also really fun to stick to your guns.

[SPEAKER_01]: to be who you are, you know, that John was a great example of that through the years, Roman stuck to his guns, staying all the way in WCW stuck to his guns, with in terms of being not just the baby face, but executing everything in the same character, not letting in a way game like that throw you off.

[SPEAKER_00]: I actually live this one last question.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did you, when that match is over in your backstage, is there anything you can share about?

[SPEAKER_00]: You get a, you have a moment with John, because obviously he's been a legend.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's wrapping up here with God.

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess three, four more months left and that's it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he's been adamant that this is it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be one of these guys that's always back.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you could put on this epic match.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, pretty significant for the company.

[SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys get to share anything?

[SPEAKER_00]: Because I remember I asked you about [SPEAKER_00]: when you won the title from Roman and you said he was gone by the way.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I haven't seen this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's still gone.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just curious about you and John in that spot.

[SPEAKER_01]: The moment we had [SPEAKER_01]: that was better, and I hate doing this to you, but that's right.

[SPEAKER_01]: If they can ever pick the mics up, which by today's standards, I don't know if Unreal's got it, or one of the digital guys on the floor has it.

[SPEAKER_01]: What he told me in the ring, when he handed me the title, is all of the moment you could ever dream of.

[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of as a wrestler, as someone who's really wanted it, who's climbed the ladder and [SPEAKER_01]: and believes in climbing a ladder and believes in having a passion for this.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was this good as a moment as a as a could get and this has been five months as WrestleMania and then a month or two before WrestleMania.

[SPEAKER_01]: All of those promos that we did and even the toast the night before all of them are way more [SPEAKER_01]: visual and etched in my brain and other promos I had done throughout them.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're just every one of them was like being in a high pressure, high pressure, fighter pilot like situation and trying to navigate with somebody like John who does not accept you to be remotely not sharp.

[SPEAKER_01]: You have to be on it on it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that moment in the ring was the best moment we had.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can you share anything with your rather not?

[SPEAKER_01]: It's fine if you'd rather not.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I feel like I got to keep that one secret.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got to keep that one secret because for a man John being a man who never likes the inside stuff to be known.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm someone who lets it all out there.

[SPEAKER_01]: This one I'm holding on until we get to Mike Dup version.

[SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.

[SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's my favorite time of the year.

[SPEAKER_00]: The NFL season is almost here in fantasy football is in full swing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let me transition a little bit to some other things because I do want to talk to you about Unreal and you hosting a podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let me mix in some light-hearted things here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Have you Googled yourself recently?

[SPEAKER_00]: No, should I?

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I try to do research.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they have on Google the top question that people ask of someone.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the most asked question about you on Google currently is, quote, is Cody Rhodes.

[SPEAKER_00]: a nice guy in real life.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's the number one.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's number one.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_01]: What does that make you think?

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe sometimes the appearance on television of being so friendly and like a goody two shoes aspect.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't know if a lot of people you don't see a lot of that in twenty twenty five.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I heard this quote and I want to make sure I I'm trying to get it right, but [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you pretend you're somebody that you want to be for so long that you are lucky and become that person.

[SPEAKER_01]: For me having a young daughter and seeing that so many fans jumped on board with the American nightmare stuff, I stopped pretending a long time ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: Very much I would say you can catch me in a bad moment for sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: They happen.

[SPEAKER_01]: The only place I really like to not be a nice guy is the ring.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've seen that with Kevin Owens and AJ Styles and Randy, and I think that's my one out.

[SPEAKER_01]: No matter how you look at it as sport or as pure performance.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's my one big out.

[SPEAKER_01]: I still get, yeah, I mean, I'd say I'm like everybody else.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like to be nice.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be nice.

[SPEAKER_01]: But there's, you know, days like, you know, what was the last time you got really pissed off, but maybe weren't nice.

[SPEAKER_00]: What triggered it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, that I will try and to find a way to tell you without getting this guy in trouble.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see, maybe I don't use that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's an easy one.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I always sign at the airport, always.

[SPEAKER_01]: And people today, they see the Funko sleeves and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you'll see people respond, like, oh, that's the fans.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the price of fame.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think unless they're in sports, they realize the ones at the airport are actually not fans.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're volume collectors.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're member big collectors.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, nonetheless, you being famous, quote, is why they're there.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that's also an honor and cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I typically will always sign, always.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if I'm by myself and I flown into an airport off site, that the only way you would know is if you looked up my manifest, and that's what you tell me right before I sign, that is definitely going to come with a [SPEAKER_01]: a snarkier version of me.

[SPEAKER_01]: None the less still signed.

[SPEAKER_00]: Still, why?

[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

[SPEAKER_00]: You shouldn't sign.

[SPEAKER_00]: You sure?

[SPEAKER_00]: Here's some is very simple.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess because you want it over quickly and you want to do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I see that it's discussion online all the time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, there's no over it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Those are fans.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think until they get into any type of industry because they're there for NFL, NBA, actors on television series, they are volume collectors.

[SPEAKER_01]: They don't buy tickets.

[SPEAKER_01]: They don't watch the shows.

[SPEAKER_01]: I always sign, but I do, I learned this from Kane.

[SPEAKER_01]: I watched him do it.

[SPEAKER_01]: He just signed.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's no conversation.

[SPEAKER_01]: Don't ask me about my family.

[SPEAKER_01]: Don't ask me about my flight.

[SPEAKER_01]: My fear is maybe there's a real fan in the mix.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I definitely don't.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want that.

[SPEAKER_01]: We've got experience.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I just kind of move through it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But as exactly what you said, it takes more time for me to explain [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, this is shady.

[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

[SPEAKER_01]: It takes more time for me to like, you need me to sign thirty pops with a paint pen and write the American nightmare.

[SPEAKER_01]: That.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather just get through as quickly as I can and get through.

[SPEAKER_01]: My next objective.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my only know ever because I am a big believer and I always say yes and I always want to have time in case there's a real fan in the mix.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think a real, I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_00]: Got it.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, my only know is if, well, though, if I'm with the kiddo.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's just like, come on.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, it's, it's not possible in this moment.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is per time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and I have to give her her time, which, that's my daughter.

[SPEAKER_01]: So any time of her, it's her time.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, let's, I think the, the real fan would want a photo more than an autograph.

[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I'm a photo.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm about a photo.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's say.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, we start handing you baseballs and you're not a baseball player.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_01]: He's side to the sweet spot.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I will say this.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go on record though.

[SPEAKER_01]: I always say yes.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I know a lot of old school wrestlers hate that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I just take longer for me to explain why this is weird.

[SPEAKER_01]: Then just know I get it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, I mean, there's a part that's like rewarding bad behavior, but it's also like, do you want to have a whole incident?

[SPEAKER_00]: You want to just get on with your day.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's totally got it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the other thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: They film you now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's all like, uh, all right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, [SPEAKER_00]: I TMZ will be like, you know, white face, baby face.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cody Rhodes acts like asshole at airport, and then no.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that was there was one guy recently that he picked that was his big opening line.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the only one here.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I wanted to be like, yes, because you looked into my manifest, which is terrifying.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know where I'm landing and you know that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I don't I don't even know what that means and I don't even know how one will go about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't want to ask you to explain it because I'm more people to do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe you can tell me off.

[SPEAKER_00]: I might even have it.

[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I'll explain and this is in defense of because I've met many collectors who I'm actually friends with.

[SPEAKER_01]: In defense, it's huge business.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: You think that it's not nickel and dime stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: The moment you sign that stuff, if they get the right amount of volume, I got eight codies.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got four lives.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got they're they're doing well.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I have a weird love hate with them.

[SPEAKER_01]: I do with the.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I get a real your collector because it also you show up in an airport and no one's there.

[SPEAKER_01]: Usually means the show's going to suck.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know what to say, I got it, I got it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's been a little while since you've been on the pod and there was one thing that happened when I started, I got to get Cody back on this podcast and sort of as possible, but it's been so long.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you did an interview [SPEAKER_00]: where you said that when you retire, you want to gain a hundred pounds.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when I saw that, I said, I can do a one hour pod with coding just on that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe it'll just do two or three minutes here.

[SPEAKER_00]: What's the plan, Cody?

[SPEAKER_00]: Do we just want to like, do you have it in your head how you might do this or you just know this is what you want to do when it's over?

[SPEAKER_01]: I think when I, every time I say that, I'm reminded that I, [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think it's possible for me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want that because this image of me and Tommy Bahama shirt and like sunburn, like perpetually sunburn, maybe standing outside a car that's never gonna work, talking with another guy about the things we need to do to that car.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we'll get it tomorrow.

[SPEAKER_01]: I say all this, but the problem is my wife is getting better looking.

[SPEAKER_01]: So if she was like, [SPEAKER_01]: getting chubbed out.

[SPEAKER_01]: I could probably let this go, but I just, I don't, I want it, and it's very simple.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've been working out since I was fourteen.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, fourteen, and even before that, my dad had this barbaric neck harness, because he said, I needed to have a big neck to play football.

[SPEAKER_01]: This thing you'd put on your head, and if you can see me now, you do these lists that you hang Olympic plates from.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've been working out since I was fourteen, no-in-sight, you know, I've never, like, I think maybe a better way to put instead of gaining under pounds is I'm going to take a little break.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take a little break.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm assuming when you say, again, under pounds, what you mean is you want to eat like a pig.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to just, well, not just eat like a pig.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to eat like a pig seven days a week because you saw that whole concept of like, hey, here's your big cheat meal.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then you just destroy yourself over the course of a day, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not worry as much.

[SPEAKER_01]: not worry as much like what I can get that fried chicken instead of the roasted chicken or the steak I can have that old fashion and not feel bad or not limited to the one I just all that pack of Oreos that's calling your name I instead of smelling one and throwing it away I can have a sleeve of Oreos and I'm not feeling [SPEAKER_01]: Like the next day, I'm irresponsible and doing a disservice to those who come and watch us with our clothes off in a porcelain show.

[SPEAKER_00]: And sorry, I just want to be clear about this because people may aggregate.

[SPEAKER_00]: Cody Rhodes, the American nightmare of the WWE on the speed of February champion, smells the Oreo and throws it in the garbage.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the best way to get it.

[SPEAKER_01]: If it's not, if you put it in the garbage, you can't get it.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're looking into the garbage, something's wrong.

[SPEAKER_00]: What I love about that is I don't think is an Oreo is something is like, like, I get to you doing that with like a cinnamon [SPEAKER_00]: and Annie's pretzel, like those have the powerful, like, you know, even like, you know, you're welcome to a movie theater in that popcorn smell just smack your right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Oreo, I wouldn't think, you know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Oreo is maybe not the best example, but it has happened in Oreo.

[SPEAKER_01]: Here's something I do really enjoy though.

[SPEAKER_01]: And this is true.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love watching other people eat poorly.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love.

[SPEAKER_01]: We should hang out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Love that.

[SPEAKER_01]: It food is love as my friends from crispy pizza and Brooklyn have taught me food is love.

[SPEAKER_01]: So if I can watch somebody eat some crumble cookies, then I can keep up.

[SPEAKER_01]: That feels good to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're digging it.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're loving it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't need it anymore, you know?

[SPEAKER_00]: I wish you didn't say that I might have to edit that out because it's a daily fight in my household with my nieces because they want crumble cookie constantly and I'm like that's a once in a blue moon thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at the app right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: They got this one, the freaky or friday blackberry one.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that one.

[SPEAKER_01]: Look at that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you kid, you've probably never had a crumble.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you have it on the chart?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: You still get your day.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: You still get your day or not day correction.

[SPEAKER_01]: No one should have the day.

[SPEAKER_01]: You get your meal.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and as you get a little maybe a mature thing as you if you're training and into a fitness and into that old game is it's okay every now and then to not put the weight of the world behind a half a cookie you're sharing with your daughter because that's a thing they like to share [SPEAKER_01]: So like, take her to cold stone.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's gonna want to share these flavors.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you're gonna naturally get a few bites.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Just respect her.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_00]: I got it on the kid.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: When everyone orders dessert, I order coffee.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's my thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm gonna throw a hot take out there and then we can move on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take.

[SPEAKER_00]: Chip city is better than crumble cookie.

[SPEAKER_00]: Chip city is better.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just throw that out there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking this up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where is Chip?

[SPEAKER_00]: But I know we have them here at on Long Island in New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, you know, where they are around the rest of the country.

[SPEAKER_00]: Good city cookies.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have a key.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: That you can order.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Occations.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're in Connecticut, Florida, Illinois, Massachusetts, New York, Virginia, Maryland, New Jersey, Pennsylvania.

[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, try it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know what you think.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, do they have a menu or is it just a variety?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same thing as crumbly cookie like they have like that menu that changes with the flavors and all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: They got to broke you this week.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_01]: Captain Crunch cookie too.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they have a lot of cookies.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at this and I think it's worth a shot.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I could.

[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say you're wrong.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say crumble is still the king.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason that crumble is the king is sometimes just like with all these streaming services and everything happening these days, the interface and quick access, the ability to go tap tap, next thing you know, pink box on your doorstep, let's party, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, there's also a downside.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little scary that it's that easy to miss.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you got the will power, Jimmy, you good?

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I have none.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have none.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to ask you this now as we chat it up here.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're now hosting a podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: You've joined us in this, in this, I don't know what this is this world.

[SPEAKER_00]: What do you want to talk about?

[SPEAKER_00]: Are you enjoying hosting a podcast?

[SPEAKER_00]: Is it, are you getting out of it?

[SPEAKER_00]: What you wanted to tell me about doing this whole gig?

[SPEAKER_01]: My producer on the podcast is the name's Craig.

[SPEAKER_01]: He does a really great job giving me, you know, I like to just have a conversation.

[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to talk about?

[SPEAKER_01]: He has, he does a good job giving me research on some things we probably should hit.

[SPEAKER_01]: Some questions that he knows.

[SPEAKER_01]: There are certain questions I can ask that become an education for me, which I know is moments like I just interviewed Bruce Pritchard as an AERD yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: such an education and the day he said this stuff to me was the day I needed to hear it.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I love sitting there and being educated.

[SPEAKER_01]: I never really had any love.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love a story.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love talking, but I never really thought of the podcast thing as something that I would be doing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wheatly, fanatics, WWE, all of the same team.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am very much enjoying it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think a little moment for me telling of how powerful WWE has gotten was as wrestlers when we go on shows like your show.

[SPEAKER_01]: us if a wrestler says no and it's a big show like your show they they're reminded of hey it's x amount of people it's in this area it's really it's they give you these little nuggets uh...

i did one part of my take right i did part of my take i had already said yes so i don't know why they kept giving me the sales [SPEAKER_01]: But they kept, it's the number one sports podcast in the world.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they said to me, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: When you say they, you mean the WWE team?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I've got it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I said, yes, I'm down.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the first episode we did of what you want to talk about with Brandy, jump to head of that show.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt really proud because to me, I'm not, I don't consider myself in this world so much.

[SPEAKER_01]: I felt really proud of that because my whole goal is I'd love to get people who are new to our world or who are outside of our game.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to have you on the show.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love to have people who often ask the questions, be asked the questions.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm more of a fan of conversation and educating myself than I am in entertaining pod.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel it's okay because WWE is going to make a entertaining and give, give it that flavor and things that nature.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing I like the most is sitting there and finding out something new.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing I like the most.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a street education for me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got two guests this season who haven't aired yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: One was Biggie, one was Alexa Bliss.

[SPEAKER_01]: Both conversations, I left the room better for because of the stuff that they were hitting me with that I was not prepared to learn on that.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that part of the podcast I love greatly.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't love [SPEAKER_01]: that the show has basically become drink champs where maybe we're hitting the vodka a bit hard.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe if you don't love that, you can fix that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can fix that, but here's where it goes off the rails and Craig's hip out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Don't have me doing ad read with forty S's in it.

[SPEAKER_01]: after we've done do it first and then I can get it boom I can get it done some of these it's like washing a man fight for his life try and so hard to stay with already a little bit of a list in my mouth and keep this going after a couple elevations of the week yeah [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that I would take the ads before the.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we weren't.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And not to kiss your ass because you're on here, but you, I do love, I've watched many of the episodes and I do love the fact that you make a conversation.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I try to do here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, I'm in a position where I still got to do some of the PR stuff and talk about.

[SPEAKER_00]: unreal and Netflix and aware to find everything, but I'd rather just have a conversation as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I appreciate how you do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think you do it very well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Give me like they know you're jelly roll on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Give me a couple of non-WWE people you love to have on and love to have a conversation.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh gosh.

[SPEAKER_01]: Walton Goggins.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's so special and be it from Georgia.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just love, I love his story.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love his outlook on the South and the South often.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's one that I would love, uh, Hideo Kojima, responsible for the Metal Gear franchise and now death stranding just someone I'm a huge fan of.

[SPEAKER_01]: Some people I've gone some projects with moving forward that I love the [SPEAKER_01]: get in there so we could talk about those things.

[SPEAKER_01]: Those are two outside our world.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love Shane Gillis, fellow Eagles fan, far more than fans.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the guy just really loved what he's doing with tires, love his whole story.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I could go on and on, fanatics do W to be in fanatics, put that whole thing together.

[SPEAKER_01]: They've got a really great role of the decks of outstanding guests.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm on in the part of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm jealous.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do all this myself.

[SPEAKER_01]: You have friends here at WDV.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, but you have friends because anytime I've ever been asked about your show, I wasn't really asked.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was told you're doing it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I was told you this.

[SPEAKER_01]: We show up for Jimmy.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Roman.

[SPEAKER_01]: Roman, it's not doing many podcasts, not doing, I know, and you've had them all times.

[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone says that to me, everyone's like, you get Roman, you get Roman.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, you know, we had, and I don't know if I should say this, but I did a pod, I think I'd done probably.

[SPEAKER_00]: five, six, seven pods at Roman.

[SPEAKER_00]: The first one he was thirty-three at the time, and I asked him what it was like to be a Russel at forty-three.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that I was such an idiot at that time, and he came back on was great.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was one pod we did, I think it was not the list on the one before.

[SPEAKER_00]: I actually got a little private message from a guy you keep calling Mr.

Hammond saying, it was the best interview he's ever heard with a Roman.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not made me feel good.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I appreciate, but I turned on Roman, and I wanted you to finish the story.

[SPEAKER_00]: which maybe doesn't say a lot about me, but I was one hundred percent Cody finished the story.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got my Roman watch on today, actually.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like you and Roman have unfinished business.

[SPEAKER_00]: And now that you have the, and there it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hidal back.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's the Roman watch.

[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you enrollment.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's like another dance to be done, right?

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very happy with what, you know, [SPEAKER_01]: What we put out there that's a really I always try to wax poetic about him anytime I've ever said something a little snarky I guess it's been more for entertainment, but I can tell you That's Probably a very hard match to have happened really, but [SPEAKER_01]: I could see it being very significant it happening again and for the fans who really make this all up even the fans I was given a hard time about following me in the airport just a minute ago for that.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just have two, you know?

[SPEAKER_01]: We split.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that third exists and a lot of times sometimes matches can go in the file of the greatest match that never happened.

[SPEAKER_01]: I certainly, I'm certainly not adverse to it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what his outlook on it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're different than we were.

[SPEAKER_01]: And again, not adverse to it because we're split.

[SPEAKER_01]: He won one, I won the other.

[SPEAKER_00]: Would you ever want, I mean, obviously, you can't do it now, you're just one of the pilots.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're forty, but you really seem like you're like twenty-five, so you're so much.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.

[SPEAKER_00]: But would you, I mean, would you ever want the Roman schedule that people love to talk about so much, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Here and then disappears and comes back and disappears.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think every wrestler who's kind of made it into the to be able to be on Mount Olympus a little bit and sit around and chat has a different outlook on this how I do it this how John did it.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is how Brett did it.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is how Sean did it.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is how Hogan did it.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is how Brock did it.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is I think it's good to take a little bit from I particularly loved John as it as a character for WWE and I tried to model my style after him.

[SPEAKER_01]: I have come to find that I can't do it exactly how I heated it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I do have to do it how I'd like to do it.

[SPEAKER_01]: And my personal life is different than is, you know, with a with a child and a young child at that.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's got like five or six of them double twins.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think at a certain point you earn the right as he did to call the shots you want to take.

[SPEAKER_01]: To me, a lot of that has to do with where you want to ultimately go.

[SPEAKER_01]: And what I mean by that is, do you want to leave WWE when your time is up?

[SPEAKER_01]: Are do you want to stay behind the scenes at WWE?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to make your way into that writer's room?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to see if you can sit in the booking chair?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you, if you're of that thought, then I don't know if the Roman schedule works for you as much.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't really know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in uncharted territory.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, there's some projects that are not wrestling projects.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, played that are coming up that I'm very excited about.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I've not ever been excited about anything outside of pro wrestling from a professional standpoint.

[SPEAKER_01]: And now I am.

[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe maybe I can get fair enough.

[SPEAKER_01]: I say maybe because [SPEAKER_01]: One thing in terms of when you link up with a fan, when they become a fan and you become a fan of them, you can't go away.

[SPEAKER_01]: You can go away for a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: You go away too long.

[SPEAKER_01]: Then you're hurting that relationship.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a scary moment for me.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've been telling everyone here today.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's just a scary moment.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to, I worked so hard to get it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do I trust that I'll be here when you come back?

[SPEAKER_01]: Or do I stay in it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do I do I do it how John did it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Do I have interest in doing something like triple H is doing and he's doing so well?

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think part of me does.

[SPEAKER_01]: But also, [SPEAKER_01]: It might, would I be any good at that?

[SPEAKER_01]: All these are the questions that are hitting me now and hopefully I can kind of find the right path.

[SPEAKER_00]: You've alluded to the movies here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I, as soon as we have like a not good weather day here, I'm gonna watch make it gone.

[SPEAKER_00]: Was that a, was that a fun experience for you?

[SPEAKER_01]: That was such an easy, for me, it was such an easy day.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was, hey, you haven't all of day.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to do this, this cameo role in Nick gun with Liam Neesett?

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Liam Mason is a lot of things to a lot of people in terms of the unbelievable body of work he's put up.

[SPEAKER_01]: For me, it's Qui-Gon-Gin.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Jedi Knight.

[SPEAKER_01]: And a very important Jedi Knight.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I know this is a guy, and this was the guy from Schindler's List.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is Lee, Lee and Neeson.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's done so much.

[SPEAKER_01]: But he was Qui-Gon-Gin to me, and the idea that I could hang out with him for an afternoon and do the scene that I did, and then it'd be in the film and the film be so received so well.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really honored.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was excited about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was very cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it was an easy one for me with my schedule to be able to do.

[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the new stuff on the table, some stuff we can't talk about, some stuff that's kind of leaked and out there already in the world.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's a little bit more aggressive.

[SPEAKER_01]: So next time we talk, I'll know, hey, I can do that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm made for that, or maybe not.

[SPEAKER_00]: Would, would, would all genres of movies appeal to it?

[SPEAKER_00]: Would you want to just stick to like action?

[SPEAKER_01]: Could you see self doing like drama, comedy or, well, I think I owe it to, if I, if I go into that route, I owe it to try and give it beyond a hundred percent and Howard Fine, who was the first acting coach I had.

[SPEAKER_01]: He was the type that no matter if it was a soap opera, action movie, worn piece, whatever it was, you completely connect to those circumstances and you are that character.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't really have a, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think for me, from a business perspective, you almost have to navigate what others in your field are doing.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we've opened it up.

[SPEAKER_01]: Rock is out here working with Martin Scorsese.

[SPEAKER_01]: Look at what he's doing for other wrestlers just by that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dave Batista, everything Dave touches.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dave is gosh, I wish I had gotten more time with Dave.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dave is like, I get such a kick out of when I see him say something in a movie and the crowd laugh or because that's the wrestler.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: seeing a doing the incredible thing surviving this turnover at DC and Warner Brothers and Discovery and taking peacemaker into the future.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they had made it so that we can kind of go into all different genres and give it a shot.

[SPEAKER_01]: So cheers to those, you know, and then Hulk, Hulk before them.

[SPEAKER_01]: Cheers to those.

[SPEAKER_01]: We crossed over and showed the world outside of us, the work ethic and what wrestlers can do.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a long lip, you know, Piper did movies, Andre obviously had that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, another.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, the movie too.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that trailer for that rock movie during Johnson movie.

[SPEAKER_00]: I forget the name of it, but it looks tremendous.

[SPEAKER_00]: Man, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can you give me five more minutes?

[SPEAKER_00]: You want to run?

[SPEAKER_00]: I do, because I do want to say about Unreal and ESPN.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's up to you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to keep you, you know, if I know you got things to do.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, I'm here.

[SPEAKER_01]: No one's yet yet.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're hiding in here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there is one person in the room.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so everyone in the wrestling world has an opinion on Unreal.

[SPEAKER_00]: Good for the business, bad for the business.

[SPEAKER_00]: They don't like it this day, but let me get the Cody Rhodes take on the net and it to smash it from all indications.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's like stubby w on real, whether people in the business, you know, think it's not good for the business or not, fans have watched it and drove.

[SPEAKER_00]: So let me get your takes and everyone's weighing in on it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I know that Ben Houser, Lee fitting, again, Nick Contriple H and the final boss.

[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody was going into that doing something that had been unprecedented in terms of we really are going to mic up the gorilla position.

[SPEAKER_01]: We really are going to be out there through the day and what a day at the ring looks like.

[SPEAKER_01]: My mom loves the show.

[SPEAKER_01]: My mom is essentially a wrestler herself.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's been in the business.

[SPEAKER_01]: She's been all of the ups and downs and the highs and lows.

[SPEAKER_01]: I never got more text than when the first episode of the series hit from people outside my world saying, oh, you, I can't, this is unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is so, I didn't know [SPEAKER_01]: I think that was the point for us to connect with a different audience.

[SPEAKER_01]: If they don't know, and Hunter does a little monologue at the beginning about what you might think this is, and then you find out what it is because you find out what it is through the who, who these people are, who rea-ripply is, who CM Punk is.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anything is good or bad for our industry.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think anyone who's saying, hey, they're exposing too much [SPEAKER_01]: The most old school fundamental principle is to sell a ticket.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you can sell a ticket in a shameless way, or you can sell a ticket because I want to see her.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see him.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like her on that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a connection that you stay with.

[SPEAKER_01]: So the show is very actually old school, even though it's showing things that you'd never expect to see what I have found.

[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe I'm, maybe I'm being optimistic.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think I am.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think if we show you something, that means you're not looking over here.

[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're not looking over here, then we can still surprise you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Then we can still give you some magic that you absolutely were not expecting, because you were so sad on knowing it all here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I never watch anything inside anything.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen clips from all the classics, but I always loved what was out there in the first place.

[SPEAKER_01]: That suspension of disbelief, the sport and the entertainment, the performance.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is just another opportunity to have more of that in a way by telling them everything.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're actually [SPEAKER_01]: able to surprise them even more.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think they know everything, and I think that's a great idea.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was able to take on some of the rest of the wrestling fans.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't necessarily want to know everything that's going to happen.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be surprised.

[SPEAKER_00]: But what I do like is seeing you guys interact with each other.

[SPEAKER_00]: seeing your personalities.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you can show your personality on Monday Night Raw, but it's still different than two o'clock from the afternoon when you're in the arena shooting the shit with your friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's, you know, so I like that part of it more than quote unquote exposing the business part of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's just me.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think I think you're seeing something that is actually kind of [SPEAKER_01]: really WWE at the moment and I've told people this and I've heard a couple other wrestlers pick this up in their interviews as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: WWE is very much a functioning team at the moment.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's definitely those who go and do their own thing, and we've got rogue elements, as always entertainment does.

[SPEAKER_01]: But as a team, Tribulation lays out a map, has the discipline to stick to it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's been the thing I've been most happy about since my return is this is what you're doing, X, X, X, X, and we have stuck to the plan, which allows me as a storyteller to tell the story better.

[SPEAKER_01]: because I'm prepared because this is an improv show because there's a narrative here in the direction.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that you get to see the guys as teammates, you get to see the girls as teammates, you get to see the thing that's the most real.

[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wants it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wants it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin Owens wants it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Gunther wants it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Punk wants it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Dom wants it.

[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody wants it in their own different way, but there's only so many pieces of that pie.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's been always the real competition in our world of suspension of disbelief.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's entertaining as hell.

[SPEAKER_00]: This was a huge week because of the deal with ESPN.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, listen, the WWE in and of itself is this massive global phenomenon.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're on Netflix, which is a global phenomenon.

[SPEAKER_00]: But in my world, in the sports world, [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're still at the peak, the apex, however you want to say it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I would imagine you guys get, you know, you're not on the business side of it, but as Italian quote unquote, you, that still has to pump you up that you're now part of that company as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: I would assume.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's everything that's growing up as a legacy in the business.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you think about Bill Watts, the Jarrett's, if you think about the grams, if you think about my family and everything that we've always tried to do in terms of building and providing more exposure to pro wrestling, this is everything they ever wanted.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I felt that way when I was on the Netflix Red carpet and I felt that way walking into that studio in Bristol.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'd never been to the ESPN studio.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got to walk the first time this week, first time.

[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you've been on like first take on the other side like in the city I got it crystal I never walked into the big giant door for the studio and hollow ground being there on the sports center stage that [SPEAKER_01]: that from a energy standpoint backstage just a day.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's ESPN.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's so exciting for all of us.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not only does it mean we're in a healthy place that they want us, not only does it mean that WWE is continuing to be on the climb, it helps answer the question of [SPEAKER_01]: When is the decline?

[SPEAKER_01]: And the answer currently is nowhere in sight, nowhere in sight.

[SPEAKER_01]: Every time you could peek in the business, there's a drop.

[SPEAKER_01]: And we've just been on the climb ever since Nickcon came on board.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he had held this meeting six months ago, showing us data.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, here's a graph.

[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a chart.

[SPEAKER_01]: Here's percentages of our ratings, our relevancy, our revenue, the big three ours.

[SPEAKER_01]: For me sitting there, a promoter's son, and having had a dabble in my own attempt at being executive as well, oh my gosh, I was ready to run through a brick wall.

[SPEAKER_01]: And to be on the sports center stage and to have that moment, and then look at our business for what it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's entertainment.

[SPEAKER_01]: but these are real athletes and the sport is never it is so prominent in the terms sports entertainment pro wrestling the way they look at it that took years years years of hard work of guy sacrificing and and hats off to the legends and the people that set us up to be in this space where we are right now but I am [SPEAKER_01]: If you can't tell, I am very excited about everything with ESPN.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a really great plan and a great future for the PLEs and us.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, all the PLAs starting next year will be on ESPN and it's a whole big thing about how you can get it, which I don't want to get into because I've been dealing with that with the NFL so far, we just made my head spin.

[SPEAKER_00]: So let me wrap it up with this.

[SPEAKER_00]: In December, Saturday nights, main event.

[SPEAKER_00]: was ten minutes from my house.

[SPEAKER_00]: The NASA calls them.

[SPEAKER_00]: WD was nice enough to set me up with some seats right by the ring.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, come take it, huh?

[SPEAKER_00]: And you got pile driven by Kevin Owens.

[SPEAKER_00]: They wield you about two feet in front of me.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I shot my shot.

[SPEAKER_00]: We have the audio.

[SPEAKER_00]: You really need the video, but my producer is going to play the audio here for half one seconds.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hear the audio, please.

[SPEAKER_00]: Kent.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not my best moment, but thank you now coming back on the pod.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, that that is not your best moment in terms of here's a man being boarded off to after receiving a band maneuver in the WWE realm and a good package pile driver that but I [SPEAKER_01]: I had a weird way of appreciate that you see the moment.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was, here's what you need to know, though.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was already coming back on your podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I had to make sure.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're too feeling front of me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a way to access you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't say like, oh, you know, so like that was my moment right there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the funny thing was, yes, I don't, so I was obviously screaming at you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't take the video.

[SPEAKER_00]: My buddy, it sounded like kind of took the video.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think you were on the thin blast week on WFAN.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was with me there, we're good friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Sal took the video and posted it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I heard it, I said, oh, my God, that was way worse than I thought.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I have to say then, when I put it out there, I, the response was overwhelmingly positive.

[SPEAKER_00]: People thought it was just, you know, they were like, yeah, how to do it, yeah, how to do it.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am glad you shot the shot and I was pumped that Nassal got that event.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love the building with this history and the winged eagle that night and everything came out of it and keeping it around for a little longer.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no you were [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you were into it, so that's good.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the questions I got, people like do you think Cody heard?

[SPEAKER_00]: You think Cody?

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, no, it didn't hear me.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's twenty thousand people screaming at the thought book.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now here's the question, had I actually been severely hurt?

[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel that that moment would, how would you have dealt with that moment?

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't want to sound like a jerk, but like, I knew you weren't.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you were severely hurt, they wouldn't have wheeled you right past me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think there would have been, you think there would have been another route.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think there would have been a more urgent way to get you out of there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, just seem like if they were going to wheel you two feet in front of me, I feel like you probably were okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm glad you're okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're all working on your back in the pot on the pot.

[SPEAKER_00]: There it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I really do.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know you got SmackDown tonight, and it's been a very crazy week for you guys, but it's honestly, obviously, and then the ESPN deal.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I thank you greatly for taking the time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do appreciate it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thank you so much.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to come back.

[SPEAKER_01]: I know the team around me at WWE comms makes it seem like I'm super hard to get, which I love, but I was glad we got to talk.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to chip city review when it happens.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know what?

[SPEAKER_00]: That's my number from Chris or have Chris texted me or something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I need to forward review.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to look up.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to look up this chip city action.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope you're right.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be a hater.

[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you're right.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm confident.

[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what happens.

[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

[SPEAKER_00]: We rolled obviously smack down on geek cock and USA Netflix for raw comedy ESPN on real.

[SPEAKER_00]: What else do we need to plug?

[SPEAKER_00]: Is that anything else on me?

[SPEAKER_01]: Unreal.

[SPEAKER_01]: on Netflix, like you said, smack downs.

[SPEAKER_01]: Bob cast.

[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to talk about?

[SPEAKER_01]: Podcasts.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest thing right now for me and just something exciting and that's on the horizon is the fact that WrestleMania of forty two is coming to ESPN platforms.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that for me, just to be able to say it, amazing.