Hello and welcome to Who Are You?

This is a reasonably well done sci-fi watch cast hosted by two former strangers, now friends who were currently watching 2000 and fours, Battlestar Galactica.

I'm Jair.

And I'm Laura, and uh, I'm really sorry to report that I still have sinuses and they are still terrible

It has been like, it was so cold today, like it was no, no, my driveway has been ice for two weeks.

Oh, not jealous of that.

No.

It's been bad, but today in particular, it was just the right combination of was raining and sleeting and then dropped real cold.

So it's this very moist cold.

Like, I've done a fair amount of traveling in my life.

I've been in like places that are colder on paper.

Uhhuh.

You know, I've spent a lot of time in the Twin Cities.

I spent a lot of time in Wisconsin.

Places that are degree, temperature wise, colder.

And when we talk about what temperature feels like, we're usually talking about windchill, but humidity factors in a great deal.

And

does.

that dry cold is a whole lot easier to live with than a

Then wet cold.

Wet cold is bad and it is a wet cold here right now.

Ugh.

Beth and I went out to dinner before we did a little last, like the last little vestiges of Christmas shopping we have to do.

Oh, good for you.

And uh, like we walked out of the diner.

I'm just like, fuck, it's frigid.

Like I didn't know.

Like it's literally all that could leave my mouth at that moment.

It was so bitter cold when we walked out.

It

think the, I think the dryness here got me this week and it, I, I had to address my sinuses in case it's coming through the radio 'cause I feel like I don't sound right, you know.

I mean, as someone who's listens to your voice for an hour a week on average,

Uhhuh.

I would say slightly more graphly than normal, but not like distractingly, so,

yeah.

Well some of our listeners are very eagle eared and they would detect it right away.

So let's just like get, get that out of the way.

Friends.

I think it's the dryness.

We've set up the humidifier.

I tried the Neti pot.

Hopefully it gets better tomorrow 'cause it's been a couple of days of this and I'm just like tired of them.

I would just like to not have sinuses anymore.

Please.

Thank you.

I'm hoping that this week I'm about to spend in Florida helps with that a

Oh yeah, that should keep you nice.

Keep all the passages nice and

I'm, I mean, it's, you know, I'm, I'll be at my uncle's, my uncle moved down there for this exact reason is

keeping the passages moist.

constantly being fucky in Michigan and him being sick of it, and him moving down there where his passages are not fucky.

And I just like, I, I, I probably have the same problem.

Exactly.

You know, like it's something that he complains about.

It's something my dad complained about.

Yeah,

It's probably the exact same shit.

I definitely have dad sinuses.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's just like, fuck

I don't wanna go to Florida.

They're weird.

Okay.

I,

No offense.

I would go to hang out with Jeremy Siegel.

That's why I would go to

a hundred percent.

And I'm not gonna be anywhere near him.

I checked.

Uh, Otherwise I, Jeremy, if you're listening, I did check and I was gonna reach out to you if I was gonna be anywhere near you.

But I'm gonna be down in Fort Myers and it's a drive.

I don't want to go, I mean, I will have a fun time being with my sister and my mom and my uncle over Christmas.

Yeah.

I do not want to do this.

I do not wanna drive to Florida.

It's a 20 hour drive.

That's a bit of a schlep, as they say.

Yeah.

that's a bit much.

but it is what it is.

You know, it's for mom, it's ma it's making sure she can winter down there and have her car.

That's what we're doing.

Yeah.

I hope our listeners got to do something nice with people that they love over this changing of the seasons here, changing of the years.

It's, it's New Year's Eve if you're listening on the day this comes out.

Uh, happy New Year.

Happy New Year.

I mean we're, I'm talking about things that were two and a half weeks ago now.

Um,

Please, please, say a little non-denominational prayer that Laura's sinuses are better by now when you're hearing this.

fuck.

Bless up.

Let's hope so.

Yeah.

That'd be rough.

you know what else is rough?

Well, I was gonna say Florida gets a bad rap.

It's not that Florida is crazier than the rest of the country.

And I literally dropped this exact same anecdote on a recording of last time on that airs two weeks before this, but we just did for me 15 minutes ago.

Uhhuh.

Uh, Which is, it's not that Florida is crazy.

People down there are crazy.

I mean, there's some of that for sure.

But it's that Florida's freedom of information laws make it that all matters of police records are public.

And so it's significantly easier for people to find out about how crazy shit that happens in Florida, which is why it gets targeted by the news so much

yeah.

Florida man does X

yeah, it's just easy click bait because they don't have to do as much research or go through legal proceedings or make requests for information.

It's all just public record.

And so it's very easy to find out crazy shit that happens in Florida and make stories out of it rather than more crazy shit happens in Florida,

That's fun.

Yeah.

but,

shit does happen in Florida.

I do know people who have moved to Florida to be crazy, so also there's that.

Yeah, I mean, look, I'm not saying Florida's not crazy.

I'm saying that some of the rap is unwarranted.

Yeah.

Some of it.

I mean, it all still happened in Florida.

It's all, you know, it's not like they're making stuff up.

I mean, unless they are, in which case, fuck 'em.

But you know, all of those things you hear about happening in Florida from the news that are irreparable sources that actually are citing something that still fucking happened in Florida.

Yeah.

Sorry, I ruined your segue.

So this episode,

No, I was, I was trying to give, come up with a new one and I was

I mean, Florida Planet of the Algae.

yeah, I was, I was thinking about Florida swamps and I was like, those are probably full of algae.

Algae.

That's how I've decided, I'm gonna weird up the word for this episode.

I saw someone talking about our pronunciations of things and

The magic blurred ne.

the magic blurred algae.

Earner,

You know, I'm actually pretty disappointed with the algae on this algae planet.

I did not get to see any algae.

No algae whatsoever.

It's all mountains.

What the fuck?

It's all just California again.

Can't fool me or Vancouver.

But yeah,

I don't associate mountains with algae.

I mean, I suppose it could happen, but it feels like that's a very flat thing, like algae grows where there's lots of water and flat.

right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, water is naturally flat, so no, there's no such thing as a water hill.

I mean an iceberg.

I don't know.

Not the same,

Hmm, Yeah.

not what we're here to talk about.

What we are here to talk about is Battlestar Galactica, season three, episode 11.

The eye of Jupiter.

we get some LTOs that are mostly to remind us about hair's plot up until this point.

Oh, and that specs and Lee were a thing.

Uh, And we are here for algae.

We, we need to tell you that right

new?

Sps.

Oh.

I write her, we call her star Bs, but in my notes I write specs because that's the ticker symbol of Starbucks, SBUX.

SPS now.

Okay, cool.

Uh, star bees is good too.

Star be's.

Yeah, no, I've always just gone with the ticker symbol.

'cause it is pretty, pretty good, like as ticker symbols go.

Nice job.

Mm-hmm.

We're on the planet of the algae.

It's been two weeks.

When Tiros tinnitus goes off, you hear something in the distance.

He dismisses it and talks to Anders and this algae is just barely a food stuff.

They're complaining about it, but it is plentiful, even though we see none of it.

Okay.

And also the color grating on this planet.

You know, we had very, like, we had different times of day on Caprica.

We had Caprica yellow, Caprica orange.

This planet is very like white

Yes.

and I just don't

Like algae.

Yeah.

It's just not an algae color for me.

Like it's gotta be somewhere in the greens and the blues.

Yeah,

I suppose there could be a white algae and if you, Hey, if you know about the white algae, pop it, the discord for me.

But yeah, this mountains plus white plus everything else, not algae

White chlorophyll is a thing, so I'm assuming white algae is a thing.

I can't even say algae anymore.

It's just alga.

It's just algae Now.

Galen wants to find the planet a hot fudge.

Hell yeah,

Yeah, me too.

That would be great.

I mean, we are recording obviously pre-Christmas, as we just discussed.

Hot chocolate, very Christmas time.

Treat for me,

Yeah.

so I'm just thinking about that right now.

I need to get invited to more parties that have like the chocolate fountain.

Beth's family, chocolate fountain tradition.

Yeah.

They well ch well, chocolate fondue tradition, not chocolate fountain.

It's in a big

I, I would settle for fondue.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a good time.

But uh, chocolate fondue is definitely in there and I, that's, to me, chocolate fondue is the lakes of, in the planet of hot fudge

Mm.

and I want to go there.

Dark chocolate mountains.

Just take a bite.

that'd be fine.

I will be fine with those mountains.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They can even have a little white chocolate at the top and I'm fine with it.

I don't know about that.

I don't wanna, it's, it sounds like it's wet cold up there.

I'm not interested.

I guess if it gets cold on the planet of hot fudge.

Hey, you know what else is wet, cold?

This conversation leader Lee has about their, about how much Kara is coming to visit the

right.

Dean knows she gives him the not even appropriate amount of shit.

He deserves more shit for his.

Oh, he deserves some more shit.

Super shitty behavior here.

She is just aware the entire time.

He's like, oh, well I'm going to go say hi.

Oh, okay, Lee, why, why does it take you 30 minutes to say hi?

Every time Kara shows up?

Yeah.

The, I've seen the checklist.

It's one page, like you guys should, it doesn't take 30 minutes to go over one page.

Mm-hmm.

And we find out they're really going for it still.

Like

Yeah.

they barely say hello to each other and they're just making out in this raptor,

Yeah.

I, my notes say that they start at each other immediately, and I do mean sexually to be clear.

Listener.

Uh, Yeah.

God damnit I, this, I'm so upset by this.

yeah, me too.

Because of every consequence of these actions that they're taking.

Dee doesn't deserve this,

No, Anders doesn't deserve this either.

I don't know.

It's just,

Anders.

Well, I mean, was it this episode or next episode where Anders is all like, dude, of course I know.

Like

it's this episode.

Yes.

He, he actually, I, I pointed it out to Erin.

I was like, he said, you are not the first,

Yeah.

so she's been cheating on him with other people, presumably, like on new Caprica

Yeah.

and,

Well, yeah.

I mean, Anders, Anders at the very least is like aware of who he married.

yeah.

Dee was all like, yeah, we can get married until you run back to Kara.

Sure.

'cause we're gonna die before that happens, so I'm not gonna have to deal with that pain.

That's Dee's explicitly stated outlook to Lee, which he rebuked.

And is now doing exactly that thing.

Yes.

Fuck you, Lee.

Not a hundred percent sure.

Even though Dee was expressing like, I'm fully aware of everything that she really was though, because she also says the stuff about like, I love you 'cause you're like your dad.

And like maybe there was like a secret hope from Dee that Lee's gonna step up and be more like Daddy Adama who probably wouldn't do this.

Like, I mean, we don't know, but it, the, the Adama were shown probably wouldn't behave this way.

He and mommy Rosalyn are pretty tight.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But also, while all of this is going on in the Raptor, we cut back and the hills are calling to Teel again.

Yeah, the hills are calling and he starts to wander out.

Starbuck gets really religious when Lee brings up divorce.

Yes, this, this, this is where I got like super mad.

I was like, oh, not pleased with the affair stuff.

But then Lee's like, I, I can't do this to, he, I've gotta let her go and we can be together.

And Starbucks is like, I would never divorce my husband.

I'm just gonna run around and do all this stuff.

Yeah.

I swore in oath before the gods that I'd stay married to one man.

I didn't say anything about banging.

No one else, just like the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

it's, and it's the letter of the law, not the spirit of the law.

Pretty sure.

yeah, it's, it's rough,

Oh, Starbucks.

I guess.

they really did leave all the Mormon stuff out of this.

Revote.

Hey, low hanging fruit.

All right.

Got one in.

Yeah, these people are nuts.

and, she's Like, I, I can't do a divorce that's against my religion.

Yeah,

And he's like, well, I can't do this to d And she's like, so we're just gonna stop making out.

I'm like,

I fucking hope so.

that's the only place this can lead.

Right?

Like, if you're both stuck in these things, I don't know.

I am a little worried about next time.

Next time on,

over on the Bay Star Baltar has dreams, As he hears hair crying.

huh.

'cause the silence don't make ies.

Sharon tells us that her isn't feeling well.

This is a Sharon.

We find out this is Boomer later

Uh, yeah.

Okay.

that her isn't feeling well.

As we see more of Tyro wandering off and finding a really cool rock and he goes to check it out.

We get this really moody sequence where bear fills the silence of him wandering with these like wind chimes and drums.

Fuck yeah.

I love this stuff.

Very good stuff.

Anytime you can just give three minutes to bear McCreary.

It's three minutes.

I wanna watch this show.

Yeah.

I cannot wait until I am done with season three, so I can add that into my study music rotation, the season three soundtrack.

Oh Yeah,

Yeah, but I'm trying not to, not trying not to add it in case there's any titles that might be a problem.

you shouldn't, you definitely should not look at the soundtrack title because I, I know, I, I think I can think of two off the top of my head That are like fucking problems.

noted.

Won't do it.

I'm about to double check this shit.

'cause I think that's season three.

Oh, you're just gonna make me wanna know more and I can't, 'cause I'm a very.

Lawful good.

And I will not expose myself to spoilers.

Yeah.

I'm gonna say, yeah.

There's one title in here that you still need to avoid.

Okay.

I will

Um, and then there will be a thing that will start making sense about some other stuff later.

Cool.

Yep.

You'll know.

You'll know the second you hear it.

Don't worry about that.

I sure hope some of this stuff that Tyrell's wandering into makes sense later.

Uh, We'll see.

But before we get to that, we've got a survivor count 41,402 down 18, which is cat Sacrifice, the skeleton crews of the Adriatic and the Corina.

Okay.

that's not too bad.

It could have been a lot worse

Could have been a lot worse.

for losing two ships.

Well, yeah.

Carbon dating after we get back from theme tells them the temple is 4,000 years old, which aligns with the exodus of the 13th tribe.

Uh, carbon dating hypothetically possible here.

Scientifically you need to know, like about the carbon record over time to know, to be able to properly carbon date stuff because it's about the amount of carbon in things.

Right.

And so like if a volcano erupted for a thousand years ago or 2000 years ago, that might fuck up the carbon for when you're trying to date things later, you know, stuff like that.

Things that are, events like that, that could do that.

Um, so hypothetically they could reverse engineer it through a handful of samples from around different parts of the planet, which they might be able to do remotely when they're scanning the planet before they show up.

We don't know what their technology is like but this is probably bullshit,

Yeah.

at the very least for our level of how we currently carbon date things.

This would be a big stretch, but, you know, they can also move instantaneously through space without, you know, moving through space.

So fuck it.

As we talked about in the discord.

This morning, yesterday, maybe about about the jump jump technology and how it may or may not actually work.

Yeah, it's like who fucking knows?

Yeah, we gotta move some plot really quickly, so let's carbon date.

Sure.

Fuck it.

Terl is talking to mommy and daddy, who are very proud of him for his discovery.

Rosalyn asked about the eye of Jupiter, a marker left on the path to earth.

And this is when four base ships jump in.

The city fleet jumps away, and then the cylons hail the fleet for the first fucking time,

Yeah.

and it's just gais fucking baltar.

The disappointment.

Yep.

And disappointment on my screen.

I don't think this is a spoiler or anything, but when the subtitles came on, it said s for when Gais was talking.

Ooh,

I was like, no, he can't actually be a silo.

I think that's just like them trying to say it's the silo ship.

yeah.

You better not be spoiling anything there.

Uh, Subtitles.

because I still am on train.

Gais not a silent.

Be very mad if he is.

There's the face.

The face has hands.

This time

Yeah.

Well, it's because I had to give Ben the face when we were recording LTO half an hour ago now.

So it, it's, it's a practiced face at

Yeah.

It looked good.

Yeah.

Well rehearsed.

Thank you.

the face Papa Dama makes, when it's Baltar's voice give Eddie Olmos all the fucking awards.

He, his face looks like how I feel.

yeah.

Rosalyn and Adama are willing to put up with this for extra time to evac everyone on the planet and to look for the eye at Jupiter.

So

Yeah.

Let's stall a bit.

Mm-hmm.

as Ty escorts.

Deanna Boomer, a Caval and Baltar,

Yeah.

six PT is around because CAPA's not here.

Uh, Talking to Baltar about how much he misses this ship.

She's like, well, if you're a cylon like you think you are, then that's just fake programming.

And that's like real fucking diminutive for someone whose mission was to love that guy and loves that guy.

Right?

Like I don't think of all of the characters in the show of all of the CY characters to dismiss emotion as programming.

Caprica six is the most hypocritical to do so.

Yeah.

Six PT also reminds him like, I know you're feeling nostalgic right now and that you think you're home, but these people will murder you if they're given the chance.

If you stay on this ship, you are a dead man.

Oh, for sure.

Athena calls out that, hey, that's Boomer and she isn't allowed to the conference anymore.

This was totally done on purpose.

Yeah.

This becomes clear it pretty much immediately I was like, uhoh.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

We wanted her to have to stay behind.

That's definitely a plan.

Ballar gets a little emotional, but Bill won't have it as they're all meeting.

Ka and Gianna are like, you keep SOJ, that's a, that's a Diablo two reference that I'm

Oh,

one listener might have.

Understood.

I'm just mad that guys has the audacity to call Rosalyn by her first name, and he's like, Misty, like, I missed you, Laura, or something.

And I was like, fuck off.

I hate you.

Does he know she's president right now?

I,

He

he he is pretty good at like context clues, I think like, yeah.

You know, could have made a jab about taking his desk or something.

Being unelected president again?

Again.

Again.

Uh, Kevin and Deanna don't think that they have the eye of Jupiter yet.

And they say that openly Baltar starts to talk and roly just like fucking leaves.

Yeah.

She's like, you can handle this one, bill.

Yeah.

need to be here.

And the silences are like, okay, well just give us the IA Jupiter and we'll let you all live.

Also, fuck it.

We'll give you a ballar.

Yeah.

You can have this guy and do whatever you want.

Yep.

We don't care.

Fucking get rid of him.

He's a problem for us.

Anyways

Tempting.

this is when Boomer tells Athena that Hera is alive and sick.

Yeah.

So much for magic blurred.

Yeah.

They also know that it was Roslyn, they uncovered enough evidence on new Caprica that Rosalyn is the one who did this.

So, not great.

Not gonna be probably a problem.

Yeah.

tells Deanna that if the silos try to land on the planet, he's going to nuke the surface just to prevent them from getting the eye.

Lee is getting instructions from dad when the silences block all communication,

Mm-hmm.

Leaving a dozen Marine and five military to defend the temple.

Yeah.

And then some civilian like groups that were there.

Yeah.

The, the tear rolls.

The Callies?

Yeah.

Kara suggests leveraging Sam to lead the cities in a militia

Mm-hmm.

And this is where he's all like, look, I've done gorilla stuff.

I've never defended a position before.

Yeah, we specifically didn't do that.

we actually saw him do that at one point.

On New Capra or on, not on new Caprica, on Caprica.

When they were all holed up and they were surrounded and stuff, they like defended that one thing where Caval was there, but they, we didn't see him till the end.

They defended that position for a bit.

Uh, But yeah uh, whatever.

You know, I, it's a fair point Sam is making here.

He is not the person to lead the defense of a position.

Yeah.

Regardless of all the other weird shit among these three people.

Yeah.

Lee's like, it's cool.

Just shoot sirens while we do all of the important stuff.

Starbuck at one point tries to diffuse the tension between these two men, and it goes very poorly.

Yeah.

Tyrell and Callie talk about his childhood.

Uh, He talks about defiling, his mother's prayer room, like dancing around it naked with porno mags.

Yeah.

Callie, I don't know.

I just don't like her.

I guess she's so reverent.

Or she, she tells him he's so reverent in here and she's, she's like, I miss our son.

Do you think he's okay?

I'm just like, oh, honey.

Like, I don't know.

I guess they're in a bad spot, but I'm like, man, I can't, it's hard for me to suspend my disbelief and be like, yeah, she's so indispensable that she has to be on this planet and not with her child.

Like, I don't know, like when, if I'd watched it at the age that you watched it.

Probably wouldn't have like been a thing for me at all.

Like it would've glossed right over it.

But like being a mother now, I'm like, I don't, I don't, think this is how this would actually go.

Yeah, I don't, it doesn't feel right to me.

Yeah.

And I don't like her.

I just don't.

Um, and you know, he's having his weird guilt about setting bombs in a holy place, even though he danced around his mother's prayer room with naked with porno mags.

I don't know.

Mm-hmm.

Yep.

He's multifaceted.

Yeah.

The

Uh,

of tiro.

gada finds out the stars on the verge of going supernova.

Oh yeah.

We're gonna go supernova.

Mm-hmm.

Magic Bird Ne supernova.

Oh,

You forgot.

NOIE.

I hope they got enough algae before it goes nerve.

So this is, this supernova is set up right now in this, I can only assume that this is Chekhov's Supernova and it is gonna go off in the second part of

Yeah.

You don't introduce a supernova in the first act if you're not going to use it in the third For sure.

The Silent Model UN benefits from having the budget to bring Dean Stockwell on this episode.

You know, he won two Golden Globes in his life.

Oh no I didn't.

He won one in 1990 for Quantum Leap,

Wow.

Okay.

Did not know that show won awards.

and he won the other in 1947 for gentleman's agreement where he won best juvenile actor.

He won a Golden Globe at nine and at 52.

That is really impressive actually.

Wow.

1947 and then in 1990.

Yeah,

Wow.

right.

I'm just like in awe.

Yeah, I mean, I was just like, oh, Dean Stockwell, you know, was he doing anything else around this time?

And I Google him and I'm just like reading about him just like, oh shit.

That's crazy.

He's not still with us.

Right.

no, he passed, oh God.

2016, right?

Oh, 2021.

Wow.

This show is having a better track record than, um, Babylon five, for sure.

Well, it is, you know, like a decade later and also a notably younger cast.

Yeah.

I mean, some of the people that we've lost from Babylon five, it's like, wow, they died early.

Not like Andreas, Andreas was

well,

older in

then, like they were in their thirties making that show

Yeah.

Yeah,

and people are ma in their twenties doing this one,

yeah.

That's true.

and it's 10 years later.

This is a 20 year difference.

So

Yeah.

Deanna reveals uh, that she snuck a heavy raider down on the surface when they jumped in.

Uhhuh did not discuss that

Yep.

the model.

You in

Mm-hmm.

little sticky point here.

Caprica seems pretty perturbed about it

Yeah.

One of many things they'll be upset about with Deanna.

at this point.

I had Aaron p while I was making notes and I complained at him where I was like, I'm still not clear on why they should even fucking care about Earth.

And he's like, it'll, it'll get resolved.

But I was like, it's got to because I don't understand like, is it just that these are where

where the thir

are and we need to.

tribe went.

We need to wipe out the last humans too.

So we need these humans to lead us to there so we can get rid of those humans as well.

I don't know, they're just, it's sort of, it's sort of opaque at this point and I don't

you might not know their plan.

They might not, all of them might not know their plan,

yeah.

Clearly they don't know the who the other Final five silence are.

Yeah, man.

What a plot point that could be.

I, I have a feeling this is a very like timely bitching.

Yeah.

You haven't watched the next one yet, right?

no, I have not watched the next one yet.

I told Aaron, I was like, I need some resolution on some of this stuff 'cause I am

don't worry.

You get some of it.

Next episode, you get read.

In fact, I will say right now there is a storyline that you have complained about.

Numerous times in season three that gets resolved.

Next episode,

Satisfying.

Good.

I will watch it tonight then.

'cause I'm fucking tired.

I think, I think two, I think it's fair to say two major plot lines.

Either take their next big step or are resolved in the next episode.

Okay.

Little tired of just endless piano looping.

I'll say they take their next big step because Resolved has implications that I don't feel like are necessarily true, or even if they are true, I should be making as in a spoiler free sense.

But it is Deanna's Raider on the surface that was able to cut off their communication uh, that's, that's kind of what she implies, right.

And that she's got centurions down there that are just gonna go get the eye, even though nobody knows exactly what it is.

And then we'll just be able to destroy the Galactica and we can go on, do the

I'll sneak in there.

Anders has given out assignments to civilians to distribute ammo, cashs, and build tillium mines.

Lee compliments Anders saying he'd make a good officer, and Sam's like, fuck you.

You are gonna tell me.

I know how to keep an oath motherfucker.

Yeah.

And this is when he tells Lee, you're not the first.

I know who Kara is and I know that she's doing stuff and I still am married to her and love her, so fuck off.

Yikes.

Uh, Lee tries to put his soldier hat back on real fast and say, we've got to focus on this war.

Yep.

over on the Bay Star, Deanna says she's close to knowing the final five as the hybrid and hanging out with Baltar in the hybrid.

And the hybrid just stares at Baltar while chanting The chosen one.

The chosen one.

The chosen one,

she doesn't even, she says that she's close to seeing the final five.

And maybe even God, like she's going off the deep, she's going into bin territory.

Like, There can be only one crazy Deanna.

You can, you will not be able to thrown Leo open here.

Like,

Yeah.

only the chosen one can go, but Deanna is not really listening to the one part.

And here's what I am afraid of.

Here's, here's a prediction.

I don't know if this will be true, but I told Erin last night, I was like, it'll be really fun if, like, they go and they go to enter this temple and it's very literal, like.

And for somehow, I don't know how the 13th Tribe would've accomplished this 'cause there were no cys, but there's like some sort of anti syon device or trap that triggers, and so Gaas goes through, but Deanna's like melted or destroyed or blown up or whatever.

And it's like, that would be pretty funny for me.

Also, it would kind of fuel some shit with Gais, so that would be not great.

But

Uh, Speaking of not great, Caprica walks in and Deanna tells her that this throuple is now a couple.

Yeah, that's new.

And De Deanna's just dictating it.

Gaia is like, no, no, no.

We're we all have something special here and Deanna's like, no, no, no.

It's over.

We have something special.

Bye.

Yeah.

And.

Guy is such a spineless bitch for somebody who said he loved Caprica and seemed like he meant it, he sure just sort of floats along with Deanna.

sure.

Does wonder how this is gonna come back to bite him in the ass?

Oh, you can.

You can be sure It does.

I really want Caprica to like, I would like her to destroy him.

That would be fun.

I mean,

Just, you wait.

You're gonna love what happens at the end of next episode with these two.

Well, I mean, really it's the start of the, probably the one after, but I think that the P, you'll see where the chess pieces are on the board at the end of next episode.

And you're gonna go, oh, that's gonna be interesting, isn't it?

Yeah.

I.

Know that sixes are like a jealous model is kind of what we've seen, I guess.

I don't know.

It's all really been like six PT and Caprica really, that I'm basing that on.

'cause Gina, we didn't really see like anything outta that.

But it seems like sixes are a jealous model and uh, this isn't gonna go well and he should know better, but I mean, what does he do on this Bay Star when Deanna is like calling all the shots?

I don't know.

Maybe I'm expecting a little too much from the only human stuck in a ship full of silences with their own agenda,

All these robots with their plans,

but it's so easy to hate him.

So that's where I'm

is, we,

It's not personal.

It's religious though.

Yeah, I.

Gianna and Baltar are gonna go down to the surface here.

To go check out the temple.

We see Dee actually running the military op Starbuck is flying recon and gets missile by a centurion.

Pretty quick.

Yeah.

And they're using like visual cues.

Starbucks gets back to the area where she can at least fire off her headlights at D and then DC's the missile anyway.

But yeah, now they know that there are silences in the ground and they know about where they're coming from.

Yep.

Rosalyn is in Papa Don's office and tries to talk about pithy, but Bill's all like, Hey, so, Athena came and talked to me about Hara.

Huh.

Crazy.

That would be crazy if that were true.

Right.

right.

Right.

I, I gotta say, I was a little afraid that this was gonna go in a different direction.

I'm actually kind of pleased that Athena immediately went to talk to Adama about this.

'cause I was afraid there was gonna be more like duplicity, and I didn't want that.

Um,

Well, I mean, he was always kept out of it too.

So

yeah.

Yeah.

And I, and I'm pleased to see him immediately approach Rosaly and be like, truth, please.

Mm-hmm.

And she does, she gives him truth and he just walks out.

He walks out immediately.

she gives him the truth, and then she tries to like, explain her reasoning.

Like she gives him all the facts of here's how it all went down.

And then she tries to like, but here's why.

And he's not having it.

Yeah.

Just not having it.

He like turns around, walks to Hilo and Athena's bunk room.

Yeah,

They've got their own, they've got their own place.

Yeah.

They don't, they don't have like a bunk with like six of them, like the other pilots maybe that's like the XO hit, like the, the second officers quarters or something at this point.

Captain Kelly's, he's still around though, so I don't know.

It'd be fun if they just redecorated her cell.

Yeah, I mean, you know, you need the space anyways.

Uh, he tells them who honestly handle it as well as they fucking could.

Like they're not sup they're very angry, understandably so, but they're not actively taking it out on Adama.

There's like a little bit of shade thrown his way, but they're clearly not blaming him.

They're just super angry and fine.

That's, that's fair.

Yep, He does remind them that, you know, I know you're hurting, but.

You will be able to see your child again.

Like you eventually, well, maybe not that, but you will be glad eventually that she's alive.

Like even beyond this hurt and this betrayal and all that.

Yeah.

He, yeah.

Like, 'cause he was all like, you know what it's like to lose a child of like fucking everyone who could do this to us.

And he's all like, look, you're gonna get to see yours again.

Yeah.

Like, yeah, mine has really gone

Yeah.

They super dead.

yeah.

Um, but Athena rightly needs to see her

Yeah.

Lee tells Anders that Kara got shot down.

He wants to go rescue her while this is going on.

The Cylons send six heavy Raiders down.

And in response, Adama starts arming the nukes to

Yes.

Everybody's calling Bluffs around here because we've got Adam dama preparing the nukes, firey missiles and Anders ready to disobey Lee.

Yeah, he's gonna go rescue Kara.

Um, Lee has Anders at gunpoint to stop him.

Adama is authorizing the nuclear strikes, like authorizing the release of nuclear weapons and going through all this stuff.

There's a lot of fucking steps to use nukes here that you would not want to do in a, like, like it makes for drama and good TV right now.

But can you imagine in a like active combat situation, having to go through all of the shit to use the nukes,

I wonder if

like the bass stars are firing at you.

I, I wonder if you don't have to do it in act of combat.

I wonder if it's part of like, because we're about to fire on.

Our own people were taking

Well, it's like it, I mean, some of it is like saying things right and like procedural, like, you know, matters of record.

But some of it is like, Hey Ty, enter your code.

I'm entering mine.

Hey, grab the keys.

Hey, do this.

Hey, do these physical things that are a pain in the ass if you're trying to do it while you're about to get blown up.

Yeah.

Seems it's, yeah, it's tough.

'cause I'm like, you do want good internal controls on your nukes,

Look, I just listened to the five episodes of Behind the Bastards about how close we are to nuclear Armageddon at all moments.

So this level of redundancy in making sure that it doesn't happen seems like a good idea to me.

Yeah.

But also the situations are admittedly very different.

Yeah, yeah.

I want lots of dual control on.

The nuclear armaments all around the world.

Like, let's make it like, you know, committees can never agree on anything.

Maybe it should just be a whole committee that has to put in

Yeah.

coats.

Keep us, keep us from annihilation, please.

That would be great.

Okay.

Thanks.

Bye.

Mm-hmm.

all this is going down as we get hit with the two be continued.

Oh, and te will, Tiara keeps staring at the eye in and out, like, or I, I say it's the eye.

I don't know if it's actually the eye, but we keep staring at the same thing

Yeah.

a lot.

And it sure looks, eye shaped.

Did you recognize it, by the way?

I don't guess I did.

Okay.

That's cool.

They'll tell you next episode.

I mean, it kind of looks like, I would think a storm, like a big hurricane.

Like

no, no, no, no, This is, this is something we have seen in the show before.

Oh,

They, they, they will call it out explicitly next

okay.

I guess I'm gonna need that.

Yeah.

I mean, it's, it's the kind of thing that on your first watch through, you would not notice.

It's, it's designed to have been ambient in the background previously so that you can fucking ignore it and then they can bring it up later to be all like, Hey, look at how smart we are.

is it the manhole covers on Caprica from when we went down in the sewers all the time.

That would be good.

That would be good.

So anyways that's the episode.

Uh.

Yeah.

How do you feel about this one?

Oh, I forgot.

I have to rate it.

I kind of just am like living in the moment.

It's kinda, you know, I'm just kind of here.

I guess I can't quite give it like, it's not a 12 colonies for me.

I am getting pretty annoyed that I don't understand and they have not made clear to me why we should even care about Earth.

Um,

I mean, we know why the humans care about Earth.

oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

But why, why, the Cys are so like, eh and I'm tired of Deanna and Gais.

That's gross.

Don't like Gais Cullen Mommy, Rosalyn by her first name.

He does not have those privileges.

Sorry.

yeah, also he looks rough.

I meant to say that.

He's definitely like James CA's doing a nice, like.

Degradation of his character.

But, oh, I'll give it like a 10.

It gets to be in the upper quadrant, but like not the best.

What about you?

Eight.

Yeah, it's good.

yeah,

no, it is a good episode.

Um, it, it really needs part two,

Yeah.

as most of these do.

But you know, we're, we're only a week away from that.

I mean, you're about 20 minutes away from that.

But listener, we're a week away from that.

probably, actually in recording, probably like two weeks away from that, to be perfectly honest.

We'll see.

Holidays.

Yeah.

Uh, But we will get there soon.

It's season three, episode 12.

Rapture,

I sure hope Deanna gets raptured

I had to edit this episode descriptions so fucking much.

This one I had to edit a bit.

Next episode was like three paragraphs for some reason, and I cut it to like two sentences.

Yeah, that's too much.

Anyway.

Three

yeah.

Come on,

Deanna squares off with Adama over the temple of five.

Athena asks Hilo for help in her plan to rescue her.

Apollo asks a lot of D while the centurion's attack.

huh?

Oh boy.

I hope we don't have a heroic sacrifice from Dee.

That would be.

Not ideal.

We'll find out next episode.

Yeah.

Or if d has to go rescue Starbucks.

Oh.

Wouldn't that be the fucking worst?

Could you imagine Lee asking Dee to go save Starbuck?

Like the whole time she'd be so fucking, she'd be like kicking the rocks.

She goes past like, this sucks.

I hate this.

Well, I look forward to it.

I'm gonna go rip that bandaid off real quick.

Good.

I look forward to seeing text messages from you in the morning.

'cause I will be fucking sleeping in about 15 minutes.

You deserve it.

Oh, I fucking do.

I'm so tired.

Uhhuh.

I'm so tired.

Also, the fact that we started this recording and I was drinking a chamomile tea with a little bit of whiskey in it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're real chill

um.

It's, it's good.

I'm good.

It wasn't a CBD cha meal at least.

I don't know that I do a, I have done the CBD chamomile with whiskey before.

That's a real chill vibe.

That's a, that's a, that's a relaxing place to be.

Um, just like a relaxing place to be is with your buds.

And you can do that orally or a URL

Orally is how I try to like distinguish orally and orally.

Orally.

Yeah.

don't know if that's actually accurate or not.

We could probably get the misra to break down the pronunciations for us, but Yeah, that's what I try.

but uh, but listening to Jeremy Siegel, it was the segue I was going for there,

Uhhuh.

German C4 two.bandcamp.com.

Go get him a fucking listen, go buy him a fucking Christmas present by buying some of his music on Band camp because he actually sees money from that, hypothetically, I assume.

I hope.

Fuck

I think band camp's one of the better ones

one of the good ones.

I think

from

if if it's not, I really hope you said something before now, because I wouldn't have said it every fucking episode to this podcast, otherwise,

right.

200 fucking times.

We'll have to, we'll have to set up a little Venmo for Jeremy if they all just, if they're all just the worst.

They're all just the worst, has no way of making money.

Mm-hmm.

what a nightmare

buy 'em a coffee.

cap it took you.

Anyways, thanks Jeremy.

Appreciate you.

indeed.

And thanks to angry duck time machine on Instagram for the podcast artwork.

Aaron, thanks so much for editing this podcast.

Appreciate you and all the work you do to make us sound coherent.

Especially late at night when we've been drinking our chamomile whiskey tea.

Right.

Yeah.

And thanks listener.

If you wanna hang out with us, probably not late at night 'cause we both got places to be unfortunately in the morning.

You can join the Discord and uh, we'll hang out with you and if we don't see your message until the morning, we'll respond when we do.

All right.

We'll see you next week.

Internet.

Bye.

Bye.