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Speaker 1

A lot of this is outside.

Good morning and welcome to outsiders.

The show that is to woke in a city out of touch leftism.

What Victorian labort premiere Jacinta Alan is to be warmly embraced by her own rural communities.

Speaker 2

But I do acknowledge that it can be hard, and I know a lot of Victorians are feeling that.

Families, farmers, small business owners to many many are doing it tough.

Speaker 3

Some of it is because of nature.

Speaker 4

Yes, that was Jacinta Alan getting repeatedly heckled by struggling Victorian farmers at the Bush Summit in Ballorad on Friday.

Speaker 2

The bush gives you something you simply can't find anywhere else, the fresh air, the quiet, the space.

Speaker 5

And it didn't get any better.

In fact, it got a lot worse, especially when the premiere decided to lecture the audience about the virtues of renewable power.

Speaker 2

Oh dear, and that's why I also we're supporting renewable energy projects as well.

Speaker 6

That a driving investment.

Speaker 1

You might call it a train wreck of a speech, but that would be unfair to crashing trains.

But Allan wasn't the only labor leader to face the wrath of the Australian crowd, as we shall discuss further in a tick in Outsiders News.

Yes, just Sincera Allen was very much the warm up act for the heckling and booing of Prime inter Strenthony Alp a easy retail.

Speaker 4

Yes, this is a labor seat.

We should not forget.

This is part of the heartland.

Speaker 6

She was booed last year in Bendigo, which is her own electorate.

Speaker 4

So this is how a much ill feeling there is towards labor, particularly state labor in regional communities.

They've just passed legislation which means landholders have got.

Speaker 6

Basically no rights.

Speaker 4

You can have these massive transmission lines, these renewable projects put on their land without their consent.

Now, I mean it is absolutely shameful what they're doing.

And at the same time as they're doing that, they're introducing all sorts of more state based property taxes that are going to be crippling to farmers or already struggling, hitting them with in some cases tens of thousands of more in tax every year.

I mean, this is a state government that is broke, that is absolutely rotten and toxic, and Victorians are struggling, and they're struggling most in the regions, and I think a lot of people in the cities really are ignorant about how tough people are doing it and how angry they are about the way they've been abandoned.

Speaker 5

Well, you know, we've spoken a lot on this program over the years about how so much of what's going on with the renewables transition is really just you know, this great sort of transfer of wealth, you know, from everybody to the big renewables companies.

Now they're not even hiding it.

And you know you've said Roland before, and you know, I think to it, there's something really totalitarian, almost communist about the way that they've now decided that they can come after people's farms and properties like this.

They are this idea that they can come on, you know, break through offences, come on with the cops and say well, we are running a transmission line across your property, whether you like it or not.

It comes turned down to something I think because there's a real vicious resentfulness on the part of the Allen government, but I think on the part of the labor green left in general.

You know, they historically it's not just Australia.

It goes back, you know, decades centuries.

You know, they hate individual small holding farmers.

They hate they hate that idea of self stitch to the land.

They don't get people who live on the land.

They don't get the bush.

They don't get why people have a different set of concerns about, you know, things than the people in the cities who they make all the food for, and now they're supposed to, you know, create this whole sort of extra burden on them, which that apparently they're also supposed to be responsible for bearing the entire brunt of the renewable energies right as I like to say, the intermittent energy transition.

Speaker 1

But it isn't any joke, how you know.

The left bang on about how Indigenous Australians have this traditional great relationship with the land and it goes back and all that.

But the farmers who work the land, who have exactly the same relationship with being with the land, caring for the land, living directly on on the land.

Oh, you can just put a transmission line straight across the sand, doesn't matter what you do.

Whack away.

Speaker 4

There's no heritage concentration, there's no considerations for the natural environment.

Speaker 6

This is what's so crazy to me.

Speaker 4

People who say that they care so much about the climate and the natural environment are destroying it in our own country.

Speaker 6

And the visual pollution in itself, I think is a crime.

Speaker 4

You've got beautiful landscapes that are being absolutely ruined, and just I think people in the cities need to go out, drive out to the country, take a day trip, go out from perhaps a couple of days.

Speaker 6

And just see what they're doing to our beautiful landscape.

Speaker 1

They're destroying it.

And there were some great things at the Bush Summit, which was in various different parts around the country.

I was at Broom, Rita.

Was where were you which when we were I was in man Gan fantastic and there were some great speeches.

Missus Jeana ryan Hart spoke passionately about exactly what you're talking about, this destruct these massive solar panel farms that go on forever, destroying the environment.

Of course, for the left, environmental environmentalism was always a phony trick to gain power and to gain votes.

But just James want to, let's go about Albow, So let's have a listen.

We put together a couple of eclips.

Albow also got heckled there at the bush Summits in Ballarat.

He bravely tried to soldier on, but he got heckled, and I suspect for good reason.

Speaker 7

Have a listen now, someone wants to build a cal fire power station, they can go and do it.

Speaker 8

Run.

Speaker 7

It hasn't happened.

It hasn't happened because the markets term that doesn't stack up.

Speaker 5

We need voters and gentlemen, we do need.

Speaker 7

Energy, and the cheapest form of new energy is renewables.

Climate change.

The science told us that climate change was real.

Speaker 5

Ladies and gentlemen, we'll have to stop if you keep interjecting.

Speaker 1

Now the crowd weren't buying it, and some people in the crowd were heckling.

Ian Plymer Whar's en place.

Ian had to say gon very very well at one of the previous Boshtonans that the one that reads to is at just have a listen.

Here to Ian Plymer, talking with some actual knowledge about what is going on in the bush havelus, we.

Speaker 9

Get told that we should go to nit zero.

Speaker 5

Whatever that is.

Speaker 9

Well, if we do go to knit zero by the year twenty fifty, we certainly will change global temperature.

If carbon dioxide drives temperature, and we'll change it by zero point zero one five four degrees celsius.

That is the temperature you get from standing up the temperature change.

So the evidence doesn't support the hysteria that we're getting fed with.

Speaker 1

So James Ian was pointing out that even if you do all of this is massive disruption of people's farms, is destruction of small businesses, big businesses heading overseas.

We heard that time and again, big businesses, we all heading off to the States and elsewhere because of what we're doing.

Even if you do all that, you don't actually change the temperature.

If you believe that rubbish to begin with.

Speaker 5

Well, well you know there's something else that have got to pick The Prime Minister up on there, you know, he said, oh well the market said, we you know, didn't car or call fire plants foot Now come on now, let's MEP and think about that.

You know, try getting anything call up in this country with a concerted campaign by governments at every single level to stop it from happening, you would never get it through.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 5

Here in New South Wales, for example, up in northern New South Wales, we've Santos has been trying to do for over a decade a gas field Narrabri in the North and New South Wales.

Now it has been stuck in approvals under both liberal and labor governments, has been tied up in the courts, is tied up under environmental regulations.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 5

Meanwhile, all of these intermittent energy projects when they come through, you know, they aren't given the advantages of the capacity investment scheme.

They're given all of these different subsidies, subsidies that are held commercial and confidence, so we're not actually allowed to know about an awful lot of what happens there.

So the market is completely weighted in favor of intermittent energy and that is not.

Speaker 6

Talked about enough.

Speaker 4

We talked about talk about the renewable rent seekers, the people looking for those taxpayer subsidies and guaranteed returns.

The market manipulation in the renewable sector, and that market manipulation exists.

The other way is James has just explained when it comes to fossil fuels, because you've got all the red tape, the green tape, the black tape, you've got everyone.

You've got state and federal governments taxing the Jesus out of those sorts of projects, never mind if that can even get an approval.

Meanwhile, China is building how many new coal power stations.

Speaker 10

Work?

Speaker 11

Yeah, the market works perfectly well in China, Communist there were just one more points, So one more point about these bush summits, you know, and there are fantastic initiative, I think, because they get people paying attention to what's happening in.

Speaker 5

The regions and in the cities.

People don't do that enough.

But the thing is too remember on this whole issue of you know, red tape and everything else.

I remember that last year at last year's New South Wales Push summit, that was when Tanya plibbersek ran and hid and didn't show up after she had used some aboriginal reasoning and complaint about the mcphillamy's gold mine outside range.

So for this government to say, oh, well, the market, the market is the thing that's stopping things from happening.

No, it is their own government that is deliberately stopping things from happening.

Speaker 1

Well, people on the land have woken up to this and more and more people on the land where you know, voicing their absolute horror of what is going on.

A bunch of farmers and tractors even chased, even chased the prime minister down the road.

Speaker 5

Have a look.

Speaker 1

I mean a couple of years ago we were seeing that remember in Holland, we were seeing it in England, and we kept saying that it's going to come here.

The tractors are going to get out when they've reached a point they've had enough.

Speaker 4

They literally chased him out of town.

I mean, that is what happened.

That is not hyperbole.

That's literally what happened.

The prime minters, the Premier of Victoria were chased out of town by irate farmers who have just had enough and fancy going to a regional area, attending the Bush Summit and then just spewing a bunch of lies to people who know better.

Speaker 6

And you heard the reaction.

People are not going to just sit there politely and be lied to.

Speaker 1

Well, here he is claiming that he won't to b s people have a listen to the primism and.

Speaker 7

I'll continue to engage, but I won't bullshit people.

I won't say I won't say, I won't say I won't come along and say.

Speaker 5

We're going to do.

Speaker 7

Something with new Caul fire power stations when it didn't happen, and I'm not going to come along and say the solution is something that might happen sometime into the two thousand and forties.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and once the once the public start laughing at you and laughing when you say I'm here to tell the truth or I'm here to not b su or whatever it is, and the public are laughing at you, you're in serious trouble.

The Prime Minister is in real serious trouble on this one.

He promised, well electricity bills would come down by two hundred and seventy five dollars.

That was before the first time he was voted in.

The complete opposite has happened on this issue.

The Emperor has no clothes whatsoever.

Speaker 5

Jane, Well, role, There's one of the problems though with all of this is that the coalition doesn't have it's all energy what so we.

Speaker 1

Don't have a one party stage I know right, well, well, you know an.

Speaker 5

Sense, actually we do have a hand.

What are you saying, well, I'm seeing well, actually, in a sense we do sort of have a UNI party on this year because.

Speaker 6

Not in nessense we do until until you.

Speaker 5

Can do It's like this is such a gift for the coalition.

You know, Susan Lay's under bese amount of pressure right now to change this and do something about this and have a cross coalition meeting, a party of a rejoint party remeting with the coalitions, UH, both Partners, Nationals and the Liberals, which I think would see net zero ditched.

Of the NAPS, I think you're going to ditch it.

But you know, the thing is here, they can't go there this huge gift, the Prime Minister literally getting run out of.

Speaker 6

Town in Victoria and out of a labor seat, out.

Speaker 5

Of a labor seat, and in question time they couldn't go after the Prime Minister on this stuff because quite simply, you know or the Limbs have essentially the same policy on.

Speaker 6

Net zero that being handed a gift to you.

Speaker 4

This is they're an absolute gift and they're refusing to take it, just like they refuse to take the many gifts the Left give them when it comes to issues around trans issues, around gender craziness, racial issues.

The only time I can recall in the last twenty four months where they've actually picked up and had a fight has been for the referendum, when those race issues were actually contested and guess what, the majority of the country, every single state, voted with them.

Speaker 6

But they are so terrified of the backlash from.

Speaker 4

The media, activist political class that they just will not engage.

And Susanly is not the leader.

They need to do something about that.

The rot is from the top.

They need to do something about that.

Is they want to be any chance.

Speaker 1

They're making complete fools themselves.

But more importantly, they are letting down the Australian public.

Because the Australian public rely on a two party system with a solid aggressive opposition questioning everything that the government of the day do and holding them to account.

That coalition are absolutely failing at this most fundamental task.

There is no momentum pushing towards There's nobody out there in the streets going, oh we want more renewables, Oh we want more climate change stuff.

There's plenty of people all across Australia saying we've had enough of this rubbish.

It's got to stop, as they are saying in America, as they are saying in Britain.

And we'll talk about that in a tick.

And we've seen the anger when you start mucking around with people's lives.

We mentioned before Victoria's energy grid bills, so vic grid are allowed to stomp across people's land, chop open padlocks, use ridiculous course, the NATS at least speaking up about this.

He's one of the nuts politicians in Victoria speaking about this yesterday.

Speaker 12

I am really proud this morning to stand with our farmers, with our CFA volunteers, standing against the tax in Victoria that Victorian Parliament Labor government passed last night to give the rights to TCV to crash through farm gates, to break their padlocks and enter without permission from farmers.

It is out and rageous.

Speaker 1

So good On and Webster and I know Beb MacArthur has spoken up and others are speaking up Federal Coalition.

I mean, how many times do we have to tell you if you're that dumb and that stupid, we can't help you.

You'll lose again.

But James, you make the valid point that we're seeing all this energy, energy, cram energy, public energy rising against the government.

We're seeing these marches for example.

Speaker 5

Well yeah, so there's marches scheduled for today in Sydney and other cities.

Now there's been a lot of constirausy around these because people say, oh, no, you know, it's a racist white Australia, neo Nazi kind of march.

But you know, an awful lot of these marches is really just about protesting.

Another big issue that people are really feeling like they're being pushed to the wall on, and that of course is immigration, which ties into housing, and you know they're trying to there's a big push out there, I think to make a case that if you know, attend the march, or if you say you know you're anti the mass migration that we have, which is several hundred thousand people a year, then somehow you're racist and you don't want any migrants.

And then you've got this other push by people like Susan Lay to say, oh, well, we're just a country of foreigners, to kind of say we don't really have an identity at all, We're just this kind of thing.

There's nothing to reserve, We're just a nation to for as already comes in and they all live their own individual lives and you know, there's no sort of common culture here.

But I think you know, you've got three issues right now, housing, energy and immigration.

These three issues are the trifecta of issues right now that are sending so many Australians to the wall.

Young Australians.

Talk to any Australian under thirty five, they are furious about the housing situation.

Talking about the immigration issue, Well, that ties into it because you've got all these people to say, oh, well, you know, like we just need to build enough houses, well how and where first of all, but that's not going to happen because you've also got the huge demand side pull of migration, and then the energy thing makes everything more expensive, it makes it's harder to get a job.

It's sending businesses to the wall.

And the only economic growth we really have right now is through the government and through the NDIS.

So there's an awful lot of anger out there right now and the Coalition needs to figure out a way to harness this.

It's actually not hard because liberal principles should play right into all three of these things.

But they've got to find their voice.

Speaker 4

They've got to find their backbone.

Yeah, for they have to find they have to find their courage.

But this notion of demonizing any sort of protest that is mass migration as inherently racist and white supremacists.

They do that with every issue from the conservative side.

So when we had the women's rights which you wouldn't even say there was a lot of left wing women at these women's rights marches, they said, well, no, there's right wing ugly forces because you know, a dozen idiots showed up and tried to gate crash this protest.

We saw that even with the anti lockdown protests, they were try to describe those as being full of extreme fogs and the racist and certainly with this particular march, I have seen some stuff that is unsavory, that's troubling.

But to demonize everyone who's going to take part today as standing with races is absolutely false.

It's absolutely inaccurate.

People are entitled to say we want to have our voices heard.

When it comes to the issue of mass migration, it's.

Speaker 6

A huge issue.

It's a huge issue in.

Speaker 4

Western countries and it's one way.

Again we've got this uni party arrangement where the liberals are almost as bad as labor when it comes to their addiction to population growth via migration.

Speaker 5

This is the thing, This is a crazy thing, and you know, you look around the world right now.

England is getting absolutely torn apart over this issue.

Now, Donald Trump in the United States he is the only Western leader who has broken the spell of mass migration and said no, we are going to shut this down.

We're going to shut down the side the border.

And he's done a spectacular job with it.

But every other country that hasn't done this.

It's this crazy phenomenal we've seen in the last twenty years years or so, both parties decide, oh, well, we are going to have mass migration.

Nobody wants it, nobody is happy about it.

But you get deepnized.

Well, I know there are but yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know, but you know, the broad mass of people, you know, they're like, why are we doing this?

You know, we're happy to have some migration.

That's good, we like that, you know, that's good to a certain degree, but that you know, the mass, relentless, hundreds of thousands of people a year.

And I mean one of the big things here that we have to talked about in this country, you know, is what's happening at our universities, which have really stopped being Australian universities and started becoming these sort of you know, international finishing in.

Speaker 4

The UK, in the UK, they've had the two party system and the Tories betrayed their voters.

Speaker 5

Over Boris betrayed them.

Speaker 4

Not just Boris before him we expected and that saw Labor winning a landslide.

But now there's actually a third choice and that third choice is leading in the polls.

If there was an election held today in the UK, Nigel Faraj would be Prime Minister.

Speaker 6

And Reform would have the most seats.

Speaker 4

This is how dramatic these political shifts are.

Speaker 6

I mean, this is huge.

Speaker 4

Douglas Murray wrote about this well more than a decade ago, about the strange death of Europe.

These demographic changes are going to see countries changed forever and people need to wake up to the realities.

And we just had earlier on Sky News James Patterson, who's normally very sound, but again he was talking about undermining social cohesion.

And when I hear those words, alarm bell start ringing because people are entitled to talk and to debate and to say we don't like these policies without being accused of undermining social couragy.

Speaker 5

And the thing is too the coalition collaps for its own defeat here exactly see clap for their own defeat, and they think they're going to meet you on migration with lee, and then that's going to get them ethnic communities which aren't voting for them.

You know, there was a big thing last week where cos Mars, the Redbridge polster claimed that eighty five percent of Indian migrants vote Labor, so you know they're trying to a million of them and so so you know, then you sort of get to this sort of self reinforcing kind of situation where people come in and then they vote for you know, more people to come in, and that's where you land here.

But you know, the coalition needs to find his backbone, as you say the other week, the Labor government, the Albanese and government and now so they we're going to just lift unilaterally twenty five thousand more extra students visa places every year.

I mean that stuts and the Coalition just put out the little release and said, well, you know, we just want to find an ice sustainable level.

Because they're too afraid to say anything.

It's shocking.

Speaker 1

Yeah, absolutely, And Australia is where Britain and Europe go.

Australia seems determined to follow.

The immigration is way too high.

People are quite right to want to march against.

It affects their jobs, it affects their livelihoods, their neighbors, the threat of I'm sorry.

If you bring in more and more people from certain cultures and certain religious beliefs in certain societies, theocratic societies, don't be surprised if you get more unpleasant cultural things happening here, you get more anti Semitism, you get so on and so forth, and people are quite right to raise their voices and speak up against it.

Hopefully the marches will all be peaceful, but it's pretty disingenuous both sides of the government to be saying, oh, no, no, stay away from the march or whatever, because there might be about the bridge.

They said it was all peaceful, and then you had the Ayatola being held up, you had our mass banners being held up, and they kind of brush over that.

Speaker 4

The fact that the counter marches, whether it's women's rights activists wanting to talk about protecting women's spaces, you always have a counter protest of Antifa crazies trying to stop the women speaking, and that's when the violence occurs because the police have to step in and try to protect the women.

Again, today we're being told there's going to be counter protests, and I do you worry whether there's going to be violence today.

Speaker 1

Avoids going anywhere near anything that looks ugly would be my advice, Bob, Bob Katter, know how I segued into that.

Bob Catter was making the news.

Speaker 5

This week for around the world.

Speaker 1

Around the world is strident opinions.

Have a listen if you've got leberties heritage yourself.

Speaker 13

Oh, Mike, don't say that, because that air touched me and I punch bludg in the mouth for saying that.

Don't you dare say that?

My family have been in this country for one hundred and forty years, right, So you and you say anything like that, I have on many occasions punch blutch in the mouth.

Speaker 14

Right.

Speaker 1

So it seemed to be as spat about Bob Katter quite rightly, you know, defending Israel over the whole Gaza incursion and they need to go into guards and they need to finish off well har maas.

But this clown of a reporter suddenly tried to make some link to Ebenese heritage, which James is our local historian.

This guy tell us does not make any sense at all.

Speaker 5

Well, It's just fascinating to me this whole thing, because obviously what they're trying to do here to say to Bob Catter is you know, oh, well, because your family is migrants from Lebanon, then somehow you can't support any restrictions to migration on.

This is the great moral fraud and the moral blackmail the left place.

They say this to me, they say, oh, James, you're a migrant, how can you be opposed to mass migration.

I'm like, well, no, no, no, I'm in favor of migration.

I'm a migrant.

I just don't think you bring in half a million people a year into a country of twenty seven million.

I don't think that's a great idea for a million reasons.

But the other fascinating thing, though, I mean Bob Catter, he had an opportunity there, I think, to let a hundred flowers blooms.

I think he famously once said, you know, but.

Speaker 6

Not Crocodile's pick apart.

Speaker 5

People everywhere every three months.

Us.

Speaker 6

Well, no, it's an old clipbill.

Play it light.

But I thought his reaction was a little bit strange.

Speaker 5

I thought it was over the top.

Speaker 6

I enjoyed it very much.

Speaker 5

I enjoyed it.

We always loved Bob Cattery.

He's the great sort of sage oracle of Australian politics.

But the interesting thing is that, you know, he could have had a really interesting chat about the history of Lebanon because back when his grandparents and great grandparents came over, you know, that was part of the dying heart of an empire.

You know, it wasn't Lebanon as we think of it today.

The Lebanon that we think about today, it's a modern creation out of the end of World War One, and then was really transformed by Palestinian insurgencies after the sixty seven war, and that's you know, was the seeds of the Lebanese Civil War.

So there's a real lesson in all of that.

Speaker 4

The journalist asking that question has that sort of historical contract.

Speaker 5

I would say probably not.

Speaker 4

Probably not because you would not ask that because that would be a very.

Speaker 5

Very These kids haven't read a book in their life.

Speaker 6

No, And you know what, I enjoyed it that that that passion.

Speaker 4

But I don't get why he behaves because they did the same with Andrew lit a while back when and you Bolt asked essentially about his heritage.

Why he reacts so strongly against any notion that there is that ancestry.

Speaker 6

I don't get that.

Can we get in the mouth when you ask?

Speaker 1

He's a good blow Bob.

Let's get him on.

That'd be great.

Richard Miles toddled off to did he go to America to meet meet his opposite?

He was there a meeting?

Was there not a meeting?

What is clear, and this is absolutely crystal clear, is that the alban Easy government, thanks to Penny Wong, Tony Burke and Albanzi, is an absolute disaster on the international stage.

There's no way anybody can cover up how they have trashed our relationship with America, the most important relationship that every Australian relies on for their security.

This government has utterly destroyed that.

The Americans think we're an absolute joke, and I don't blame them booking that, and Miles is running around trying to patch it up.

It's a disgrace and it's dangerous what Albanezy has done to and Wong have done to this country.

Speaker 5

So fascinating thing Rowan about this was that whole sort of fight over the timeline of who he was supposed to be meeting and when he was supposed to be meeting them, he didn't have the Defense Secretary had not secured the meeting with heg Seth, his American Defense Secretary counterpart by the time his plane landed in Washington.

Now that tells you something big there.

Then they came up with a story that, oh, well, no, he was really there, really there to meet with JD.

Speaker 1

Vance.

Speaker 5

That was the real reason to tried passing.

Look, my mail is that the Americans are trying to be as sympathetic as they can here to Australia because they have a lot of security interests here and they want us in on Pacific and regional defense.

They want better integration our forces and American forces.

But that you know, this kind of amateur our performances keep getting the continued trashing of the American Alliance, which finally Albanezi started to try to reverse this week.

You know, for the most based missed domestic political reasons, is just disgraceful.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but let's not forget the real thing here.

Albanesi and Wang recognizing Palestine, the Americans were found that disgusting, They were sickened by it, they were appalled by it that any Western and they thought the same in France, Canada and Britain by the way, but especially Australia, who was we supposedly had this very close relationship and that was such a grubby act on the part of Albanesian Wang and we are all going to pay very, very dearly for it, as we are for everything this ridiculous government is doing.

After the break Rita's Reality Check can We've got a very special guest from the States, Jack Possibia in a.

Speaker 6

Tenth Welcome back.

Speaker 4

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Speaker 6

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She's the one who the Prime Minister decided to do a ninety minute interview with earlier in the year, and Abby went full Greta Thunberg this week, wondering why anybody would bother having children when the world is literally ending due.

Speaker 6

To climate change?

Speaker 5

How do you.

Speaker 15

Rationalize having a baby with the climate crisis?

Speaker 1

I want kids, I.

Speaker 15

Just don't feel that it's possible for me to have them with the climate collapse happening right now.

Like I notice the climate changing every day.

There's something strange going on, whether it's internationally or even.

Speaker 5

Just in my home.

Speaker 4

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Speaker 6

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Speaker 16

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You are nothing, You will be nothing.

Speaker 5

You will be.

Speaker 3

Remembered as nothing.

Speaker 16

Your memories will scatter to dust, and no one will ever think of you with anything remotely approaching any kind of fondness or reverence for what it was that you gave to the world, because you have given the world nothing.

Speaker 6

Yep, charming stuff there.

Speaker 4

Okay, let's go into Nashville now and check in with Stage four tdsuffare Rosio o'donald, who has fled Trump's America to live in Ireland, but sadly for her, Trump still lives rent free.

Speaker 6

In her sad delusional head.

Speaker 4

Here she claims that the Minnesota shoot a Trump deranged trans identified individual.

She claims, this man who wanted to kill Donald Trump is actually was actually a Donald Trump supporter.

Speaker 6

This is your brain on teds And what do you know?

Speaker 5

Was a white guy, Republican maga person?

What do you know, white supremacist?

Speaker 1

What do you know?

Speaker 6

You want a maga person?

Speaker 4

Yes, yes, yes, a trans maga person who wanted to kill Donald Trump.

Speaker 6

That makes perfect sense.

Speaker 4

Now, a top five Lupius Lefty Losing Ladies of the Week list is.

Speaker 6

Not complete without the input of Joy.

Read here is the.

Speaker 4

Former MSNBC anchor who has gone from claiming that white folk didn't invent anything, not even country music, to admitting that she was a DEI case.

Speaker 11

They can't originally invent anything more than they ever were able to invent good music.

Speaker 7

We black folk gave y'all country music.

Speaker 14

I am DEI.

Speaker 6

I'm bringing diversity, and that's bringing something great.

Speaker 5

You're not insulting me if you say, oh, you're an affirmative action person that got in harp and I'm like, yeah, I got into.

Speaker 14

A Harvard with affirmative.

Speaker 11

Action and Yale and Brown and also you know Vasser in the University of Denver.

Speaker 4

Yep, some bright Asian student probably missed out on an Ivy League college spot for Joy bringing diversity to the campus.

And I think it's only fitting that the week's number one Lefty Losing It Lady goes to a man identifying as a lady.

According to the left, anyone can be a woman, even this dude.

What quo You don't like coming into people's spaces, them uncomfortable.

Speaker 1

In that stuff?

Speaker 13

You don't like.

Speaker 1

That to you, I'm.

Speaker 3

You don't love people.

Speaker 17

You loved me?

Speaker 1

You just signed up more.

Speaker 11

You thank everyone being here authentically, as opposed to telling them with the fine that they need them infirt they no longer you exist.

Speaker 1

Start right, fantastic, can't be that well, as you know.

In three weeks time this Sunday will be there at Sea Pack up in Brisbane.

If you haven't booked your tickets, get your tickets now.

You'll have Rita, James and Rowan.

They're on the stage live like we were last year, bigger, better than ever before.

You can ask us your questions.

We'll have some fantastic guests and it'll be all your favorite Outsiders things happening.

They're at Sea Packs.

Hurry up and book your tickets.

One of those people who will be there, absolutely fantastic, and he's chatting to us right now, is senior editor at Human Events, a brilliant podcast, never miss it.

He's a veteran Navy Intel officer, Jack Possovik.

Jack.

Great to see you and it's great to have you here on Outsiders.

We'll be seeing you at Sea Pack.

Can't wait for that.

But I want to ask you first just about this trans shooting.

You've made some brilliant comments about it.

You've looked at not only the political aspect of it, but if you like the spiritual, demonic aspect of it.

Speaker 5

Let's just be clear.

Speaker 1

I just want to play a quick grab from Mike Bentz about how many of these shooters in America have actually identified as trans.

Just have a listen.

Speaker 18

The Denver shooter was trans, the Aberdeen shooter was trans, the Nashville shooter was trans.

The Georgia shooter was trands, the Philadelphia shooter was trands.

They've all these shooter was trans, the Colorado shooter was trans, and now the Minnesota shooter was trans.

I think one of the things that you see being pointed out by the Walsh types is that even if there is no clear ideology, there is something in the water with the untouchable nature of the trans identity until just the past really year that you could even talk about it, frankly, and what appears to be a kind of underlying mental instability that ten to disproportionately give rise to these school shootings.

Speaker 1

So Jack, your thoughts.

Obviously we're not saying every transgender person out there is a mass shooter or anything like that, but there is a serious issue, and you have raised that serious issue.

Speaker 19

Jack, Well, thanks so much for having me on and I can't wait to be there down Under.

In fact, I'm thrilled to be there at SEAPAC coming up this September twentieth to twenty first in Brisbane.

Look, when it comes to these shooters, there's clearly an issue with radical trans ideology that we are seeing in the United States.

Look and to take the politics out of it, in the nineteen seventies, certainly the United States had a.

Speaker 14

Problem with serial killers.

Speaker 19

We got together as a country, we went to our law enforcement organizations like the FBI, and we found a way to deal with it.

Yet, for some reason, when it comes to this situation, because of political correctness, we're not seeing that same national conversation about this.

We're not seeing that same conversation about why all of these killers and that's what they are.

They're killers, all similar characteristics and in a serious situation, if you take politics out of it, we would be actually connecting the dots and trying to figure out what this pathology was from a national law enforcement, a psychological.

Speaker 14

Behavioral health level.

Think about it.

Speaker 19

There's TV show after TV show talking about how we have the ability to do this, and yet when it comes to this particular type of killing, nobody wants to talk about it.

And unfortunately it's not just rhetoric, because there's dead children every single time now.

Speaker 4

And we've still called the media MSNBC, CNN, many others insisting that the preferred pronouns of this child killer b use that female pronouns they then pronouns.

How is the mainstream media or so much of the mainstream media so divorced from reality when it comes to this issue.

Speaker 19

Well, the mainstream media, particularly in the United States, what I've seen is that they are completely trying to cleave out the transgender aspect from the shooting.

When if you read the shooter's manifesto, which I've done, and I served at Guantanamo Bay, I've read a lot of manifestos and read a lot of speech from extremists in my day, and let me tell you, they believe in similar ideology.

They believe in extremism, they believe in body count, and they do have an ideology and a sort of twisted maniacal playbook that they're operating from.

And so when I hear people say, oh, it's so incomprehensible, it's impossible.

You see this on the media day after day after day.

No, it's completely comprehensible.

It's just that you refuse to stare reality in the face when it's looking right at you.

And in many cases now, unfortunately they're coming after Catholic children.

And I have Catholic children that go to Catholic school every single day.

So this is really a story that hit a lot, very very close to home for me and my family this week, Jens.

Speaker 5

Yeah, Jack, and onto another topic that's also almost like something that you're not supposed to talk about, like the Trands thing.

Immigration.

I'd love to get your thoughts on this year.

We've got these big protests happening today in Australia about the mass migration policies of this government in previous governments, we're seeing massive pushback in the UK.

I'd love to get you to react to that.

But I'd also love your insights as to why, in the last i know, ten twenty thirty years, this idea that countries should just take in endless infinity numbers of migrants without anybody you know, in a mass movement, people democratically asking for this or even liking this particularly much, creating this conspiracy of silence around it.

I'd love to get your reaction to why we even got ourselves, why the West caught itself into this position in the first place.

Speaker 19

Well, that's absolutely a great question, and I have to say I really do see a lot of hope in Australia.

In fact, that's one of the reasons that I want to come down and actually just speak to normal, every day Australians.

I actually haven't been to Australia before, though I did serve with members of the Australian military when I was Station Guam working with CTF seventy five, which is the task force that we have in the Navy up there, and add great and nothing but admirable comments to say about every.

Speaker 14

One of them.

Speaker 19

Look, I think when you have a situation when, if I understand correctly, Australia has some of the highest immigration rates in the entire West because Western civilization, fastest population and growth outside of Africa, and it's all from immigration.

It's all from mass migration.

So you have a housing crisis that's going on in the UK, in Australia, even in the United States, and you wonder why people are protesting, and in fact you even have I believe and I was listening to the previous segment ministers and government officials telling people they shouldn't protest.

Speaker 14

I mean that seems like a freedom.

Speaker 1

Of speech issuess, absolutely.

Speaker 19

And certainly one that I imagine that the Trump White House will be very interested in, especially with the question of tariffs being open right now.

But you know what's interesting is I seem to notice that these policies are only ever pushed on Western countries.

You never hear the drum beat force a say that the Chinese Communist Party that People's Public of China has to take in millions upon millions of migrants.

You never hear it for Japan, you never hear it for Korea.

But for some reason, it's always always inn only Western countries.

Speaker 1

Jack, I'm really pleased you mentioned free speech.

You're going to be talking a lot about that when you get out here for Sea Pack.

Now.

You're very close to Donald Trump.

We remember, I think it was one of the rallies.

I remember Donald Trump.

Speaker 5

Yelling out, where's Jack, Where's Jack?

Speaker 1

Bring Jack on up.

So you're a popular guy with Trump.

This is the number one Trump Show.

We were there right at the beginning, Unlike any other media in Australia back in twenty sixteen.

I want to ask you.

You're close to Trump and you may not be able to answer this now, but hopefully by the time we're speaking to you at Seapack you will.

What does the Trump White House, Pete Haig Seth, Marco Rubio and others the administration make of the way that the Australians seem to be deliberately the left wing labor government seemed to be deliberately trashing the relationship with America.

Free speech, We're hopeless on free speech.

We've got this dreadfully safety per and censoring everything as bad as the UK.

We've had the recognition of Palestine, which I know didn't go down well.

The White House were disgusted by it.

According to Mike Huckabee, We've had all sorts of issues on which and we're not paying our fair share of military spending where at two percent to get about five percent, we're two point three percent of something ridiculous.

You need to be able to tell us what the White House think about Australia and the absolute way in which our left wing government is trashing its relationship with America.

Jack, what are your thoughts at this point.

Speaker 14

Well, to me, it's inconceivable.

Speaker 19

You look at the shared history between the two countries, You look at the shared military cooperation through five eyes and intelligence sharing, you look at the shared military history going back to World War One, going back to World War II, and you really have to ask questions about where it is that the Australian government seems to be putting their eyes towards.

They seem to be much more focused on having relations with Beijing than they do with Washington, DC, and all of these moves that they're making again and again and again seemed to be almost, you know, tongue in cheek.

I don't know, thumbing their nose at the Whitehouse, because this president he'll sit down with every with almost anyone, and you've seen him bring person after PREVI.

I was just up in Anchorage with him when he sat down with Vladimir Putin.

So Putin was able to get a meeting before Australia.

Speaker 6

Yes, Well, on President Trump.

Speaker 4

The lefters lost their minds in the last forty eight hours, manufacturing this new narrative that his health is in crisis, that he's unfit for office.

Speaker 6

Tell me about that.

Tell me about the manner in which.

Speaker 4

Is administration was undermined that first time around with the Russian collusion hoax.

Speaker 6

Are we going to see some consequences with that?

Speaker 4

Are we going to see people actually arrested and putting jail for undermining democracy in the way they did?

Speaker 6

And can you see.

Speaker 4

Another crisis being manufactured, perhaps around his mental fitness, whatever else they're going to dream up.

Speaker 14

Well, it's really amazing.

Speaker 8

Rito.

Speaker 14

You know, you have the situation where Joe.

Speaker 19

Biden, when he ran for president back in twenty twenty, never left his basement.

He wasn't seen in public for weeks upon weeks on end.

And yet suddenly Donald Trump takes one day off to hold a bunch of meetings, and suddenly they lose their minds in those spreading conspiracies that somehow he's he's left this, you know, shoveled off this mortal coil.

It's absolutely ridiculous.

And of course he went to play a round of golf this morning just after all that.

But you know, and Joe Biden again spending four years shambling around the White House to be able to hold a meeting after five in the evening, and we're told always perfectly fine, He's the pinnacle of health and we're completely crazy for even questioning it.

Then, of course the media makes a complete one eighty and now you've got the likes of Jake Tapper from CNN coming out and saying, oh, we actually were asking questions along, No, you weren't the entire time telling us that the emperor was fully clothed when he could all see that he was not.

Look, when it comes to the Russia Gate collusion hoax, everything that I'm hearing is that they're very, very serious about consequences.

Speaker 14

For those who perpetuated this crime.

Speaker 19

And this was a crime against the American people, against the duly elected president of the American people in twenty sixteen, when the people of the States elected Donald Trump to be their president, and you had a conspiracy at the highest levels of government to effectively nullify the vote and nullify his ability to administer the country and effectuate the office of the executive the president, and these lies that they push through the intelligence community, which I was serving in at the time and could see how this stuff was coming out, breaking every single rule in the book, and having people like John Brennan and James Comey and Jim Clapper go in and stenographer.

They wrote these assessments claiming that it was Russia.

There was no evidence.

There never was any evidence.

And what we're now seeing is they're very serious moves a foot from the Department of Justice and from federal prosecutors to bring cases against them.

Speaker 5

And Jack, I want to ask you too, because there's so much talk here.

You know, we see this in the press every day in Australia.

Trump is engaging in retribution against his enemies.

You know, there's this case here against Lisa Cook that's running.

She's a Federal Reserve governor who appears to have potentially committed mortgage fraud on not one, not two, but three properties, declaring them as primary residencies to get lower interest rates.

This was exactly the sort of thing, and even more minded than this, they used to go after anybody associated with Donald Trump for so this idea, tell me about you know, this claim of retribution that the left is making about Trump.

Speaker 19

Well, you know what's really amazing.

You can go down the list and look at the number of people around Donald Trump.

And I've sat in many of the cases in the courtrooms themselves, day after day after day and hearing these ridiculous canards being put up against people and the low and the lack of evidence that they were based on for years on end, starting all the way back in twenty sixteen, going up to and including Donald Trump being indicted four times, mugshotted, fingerprinted even as he was running for office in twenty twenty four.

And look, here's what it comes down to.

If there is no response to this, If there is no response and no if there are no consequences for the people who perpetuated these crimes, then what's to stop them from doing it again?

Speaker 14

What's to stop them from doing it again?

Speaker 19

When they get back in power or they have their their deputies and their assets in place in other areas, they will simply do this again to any other conservative who attempts to run for office in the United States.

And that is why a response is necessary.

Look, it's say it is a law of the universe.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Speaker 1

And Jack, you'll be pleased to know that this show alone, out of every show in Australia back in twenty sixteen, was saying the Russian collusion thing was complete and rubbish, and we stuck to those guns throughout Great to chat to you, Jackal chat to you at seapack.

Can't wait to see you pack your bags.

It's going to be a lot of fun and we're going to have a great time.

And thanks so much for coming on outsiders here today.

That's Jack Possibk.

You can't wait to see him at seapack.

It's going to be terrific after the break.

Emissions impossible.

Yes, it's our mission and we do accept it is to point out the utter absurdity of net zero.

And we're not alone.

Susan Lee, are you there, come closest switch, turn up the volume, come on, come on nearer the telly, Susan Lee, listen very very carefully, and every member of the coalition.

Kemmy Badenock, the leader of the Conservatives in Britain, has just come out and said that they must extract every drop of north Sea oil.

They're calling it her Drill Baby, Drill moment and no more net zero.

So that's a conservative leader in Britain, James, what do you make of that?

Speaker 5

Well, A, it's about time we finally got a conservative leader of Britain whos seeing exactly this is a great turnaround from the old Boris days, the old Boris Johnson days when I think his girlfriend was making him go all greedy and and love you on that.

But anyway, that's that's that's that's a side.

You don't have any common emissions those kids have.

But the thing is, you know, like the thing is with this Anthony Albany, is the Australia has to just look at what the rest of the world is doing and realize that this whole program, this whole net zero thing, it's economic suicide.

We all know if the evidence is right there in front of our eyes.

We saw it at the Bush Summit in Victoria in New South Wales this week.

The idea that you're going to keep going down this path when everybody else is walking away from it, and you believe that our one percent of global emissions is going to do anything while we impoverish ourselves.

Well, America unleashes its own energy to be the easiest selves.

Speaker 4

It is you say it's economic suicide for any conservative center right coalition, it is political suicide.

The coalition, I don't know why they can't just look at their own record.

They won the unwinnable election when it was the climate change election with Scomo one fighting for cheap, reliable energy, not emission cards.

They embrace net zero in twenty twenty one, and I've lost few elections in landslides.

Speaker 6

I mean, sure, lurch.

Speaker 4

Further left and see how you go.

Look at Victoria and see how well the Libs are going there lurching left.

This is a no brainer.

Speaker 6

It's not only good for the country.

Speaker 4

If you actually want to get elected as a center right political force, it's.

Speaker 6

The only option.

Speaker 1

Meanwhile, even Bob Brown has come out he's furious Brown not Brown, Yeah, because he's furious because of the wild of the Robin's Islands have allowed windmills at Robin Island.

So you've got the Greens so proving that the labor are complete frauds and crooks when it comes to this stuff.

They're sticking these windmills up, even when you have all the genuine Greens saying this is destructive to the environment change.

Speaker 5

Oh well yeah, And you know it's a great reminder of back in the days where the Greens used to actually do something useful.

I care about the environment rather than you know, go out and march for Palestine and Hamas.

But you know this, this is these wind farms here again there are an environmental disaster.

We are literally, you know, destroying the environment in order to save it.

You see what they have done all from Goldbert all the way to Yes, you know what they've done.

You see what they're happening here.

You see in Queensland where they've torn down rainforests and have to kill koalas by docking on them, held on the head herrot.

Speaker 6

That footage the viral around.

Speaker 4

You only need one footage of a kuala being brutally killed in that way and the public sentiment would change so quickly on some of these issues where people are apathetic.

Again, where are the liberals actually getting involved in them?

Speaker 5

See if they could be true environmental it's true conservationists.

They get it all over Labor of the Greens.

Speaker 1

After the break, I've got a bit to say about Bob car heading off to China.

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We'll see you there, Dean.

Now is there a more appalling hypocrite than former New South Wales Premier Bob kar Have a listen to krr banging on about the Zionist lobby.

Speaker 8

The Israel Jewish Lobby in Australia is a foreign influence operation.

It's designed to put the interests of Israel above the interests of Australia and foreign policy.

And no one else has an operation as well funded.

No one else, No other country has an operation with offices in every Australian capital city.

No one else organizes donations to TIM to elevate its influence in the way the Jewish Lobby does in Australia.

Now there's a simply effect of life.

Speaker 1

Well, I'll tell you what actually is a fact of life, and a very disturbing fact of life in my opinion.

We learned this week that quote former Labor Premiers Daniel Andrews and Bob Karr have accepted invitations to a Chinese military parade where Russian President Vladimir Putin and North Korean dictator Kim Jong un are also guests of honor.

Andrews and Carr were included in a list of names released by the Chinese Foreign Ministry of international dignitaries due to attend celebrations of the eightieth anniversary of the end of the Second Sino Japanese War at Beijing's Tianneman Square this coming Wednesday.

Let me just say a couple of things about this.

So Bob Karr is concerned about a Jewish lobby, and guess what the Jewish lobby consists of.

It consists of a bunch of very different and diverse Jewish Australians from different walks of life, who hold things like lunchers or morning coffees with cake and biscuits to discuss Jewish affairs in Australia.

I've spoken at and attended many such events and have been honored and pleased to do so.

Speaker 5

And guess what.

Speaker 1

Invariably these events include question and answer sessions and robust discussion on all matter of political opinions.

I've argued passionately with Jewish lefties, with Jewish conservatives, with Jewish labor voters, with Jewish liberal and teal voters, with Jewish Trump lovers, and with Jewish Trump haters.

I've heard every opinion under the sun from Australian Jews, from in Nettaya who is a terrible Prime Minister, to Netiya, who is a legend, from the only future is a two state solution to the only future as a greater Israel.

You know, the one thing you won't get from the Zionist lobby groups agreement on anything.

So the idea that Bob Carr and others put out there that there's this ooh scary Jewish lobby pulling all the strings is utterly absurd.

There are tiddley wings groups and knitting clubs that probably wield just as much power as the Jewish lobby groups do on our political classes.

But you know who does wield enormous and subversive power over Australian politics, The Chinese Communist Party.

How many stories and expose as have there been over the years of bags of cash handed to labor politicians, of debts being paid off and loans to labor acolytes, of secret Chinese police forces roaming Australia, of voters being intimidated, and the Chinese Communists interfering relentlessly in our elections, especially amongst the Chinese diaspora.

And why are the Chinese going to such great lengths to manipulate, subvert, control, or influence our precious democratic political system.

And who can forget the claims that blueprints of Asia's headquarters were stolen by someone in China, or Chinese tech companies being excluded from our telcos for fear of espionage, or Chinese academic centers in our universities doing god only knows what, or vast numbers of Chinese students admitted every year, or Chinese warships cruising around our water wears Ladi da da siphoning up who knows what critical information with their cyber equipment, or Chinese warships firing live rounds of ammunition off our shores.

And that's before you get to Daman Andrew's attempt to sign Victoria Victoria up to China's Belt and Road initiative, which was only stopped after Donald Trump's original Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo kicked up a fuss.

And don't forget Pompeo only knew about that disgrace, not thanks to our government, but because I asked Pompeo about it in an interview here on Outsiders.

How many prominent Australian business people and politicians of all flavors, but especially labor sit on cushy boardroom jobs with companies or entities with direct links to the Chinese Communist Party.

Yes, as Bob Carr only weeks after marching across the Harbor bridge with a portrait of the murderous dictator, the Ayatola Jamini behind him now packs his bags and toddles off to be feited and whined and dined by the Chinese Communist military in Tianaman Square, the very place in which hundreds, if not thousands, of Chinese students were massacred, and one lone brave man stood against the tanks, never to be heard from again, detained or murdered by that same military, and standing alongside the likes of Vladimir Putin and Kim Jonglon oh oh hang on, no, no, no, no, it's the sinister Jewish lobby, according to mister Carr, that we're all supposed to be so scared off, so as Bob and Kim and Vlad and Zee enjoy themselves.

This coming Wednesday morning, I'll be busy keeping an eye out for, you know, all those Zionist lobby warships circling Australian waters, firing off live rounds of Zionist Lobby group ammo.

All those Zionist lobby paper bags being handed out, stuffed with smoked salmon bagels, all those Zionist lobby groups paying off politicians debts, all those Zionists lobby groups bugging Asio headquarters, Ola, Zionist lobby group centers in how universities.

Ooh, scary stuff, Bob, What's an absolute farce?

Almost as idiotic and absurd as all as simpletons supporting Hamas and the pro Palestinian cause.

Speaking of which I just have to share this sky with you.

Speaker 20

The fifteen thousand plus black people that live in Gaza live in a place called Alabde, which is known as the slave Quarters.

Women have reported that they are chosen as second, third, and oftentimes fourth wives, neverthe first, not due to religious reasons, but based on racial biases.

Black people in Palestine face racial discrimination, job discrimination, and often marriage bands.

Speaker 14

They're not even allowed to marry the same way as regular Palestinians.

Speaker 20

If you truly believe in freedom for all people, should that not include the black Palestinians?

Speaker 14

Should that not include women?

Should that not include children?

Speaker 20

Because they don't have these rights in Gaza and in Palestine?

Speaker 14

Do you know where they do have these rights?

In Israel?

Speaker 8

Oh?

Speaker 1

Yeah, of course, I'm sure Bob would just tell us he's just another member of the Zion, nice love Adrope, silly me.

They're the ones, They're the ones who are so determined to influence Australian politics.

Oh hang on ah, Yes, that would be the Victorian Parliament and large crowds outside playing the Palestinian anthem with not a single Australian flag to be seen, doing what trying to manipulate, an influence or even undermine a political system.

The Chinese, like the Iranians, like the pro Palestinian movement, genuinely pose real threats to our national cohesion.

But of course it's the Jews, according to the likes of Bodka, who excerpt due influence on our nation.

What an absolute farce.

Whereas this comedian put it to a well known Beg's tune.

Speaker 10

I'm writer, I woke, I go around campuses champion, but I.

Speaker 6

Just cannot see that soon it will be that the joke is.

Speaker 1

On you joining us now, has doctor Joanna Howe, Professor at Laura at Adelaide University.

Joanna, thanks for coming on Outsiders this morning.

It's a Sunday morning.

It's a difficult time to be having this conversation.

It's not a great conversation, but it is a very very important one.

You're raising the issue of late term abortions.

You've discussed this on the show many times before, but your concern and I you know you've looked into this far more than may.

I'll allow you to tell us the details, but basically, you're concerned about the payments that are going to the mothers of aborted babies.

If that's a fair way to put it.

Speaker 21

Yeap, thank you so much for having me on the show.

Speaker 9

Rowan.

Speaker 21

So late last year I was contacted by a concerned hospital administrator who said that in their hospital there were more and more midwives delivering healthy babies still born.

So the method for a late term abortion is to inject the baby's heart with poison and then to deliberately deliver that baby dead, so it's an intentional stillborn.

And what she said is that increasingly this was happening in her hospital and the midwives and doctors were getting quite distressed, but particularly the midwives because they would be delivering these babies who were perfectly healthy.

And so in South Australia, seventy five percent of late term abortions kill healthy babies in non emergency situations, and these midwives went into that discipline to deliver babies alive, not to them dead intentionally, and then to make it one hundred times worse.

Speaker 6

These midwives would then.

Speaker 21

Be asked to sign a form or to write a letter with their name on it saying just certifying that a baby had been delivered stillborn.

Because if a baby is delivered stillborn, the Albanezy government is actually subverting the stillborn parenting payment to allow these women to get four three hundred and sixty five dollars.

This is intended for natural stillborns, and yet the government is using taxpayer money to fund and incentivize lateterme abortions.

Speaker 4

What's the theory around giving this love sum even if you are unlucky enough to suffer a stillborn and lose your child.

Why why are we offering this love sum?

And it seems like incentivizing what you've just described.

Speaker 21

So reader, I entirely support payments for bereavement for for natural stillborn loss.

That is a situation that no woman should ever.

Speaker 6

Have to go through.

Speaker 21

But what is entirely wrong and I really don't think the average Australian would be okay with this, It just wouldn't pass the pub test.

Is giving that money for an intentional late term abortion.

If you recall the Howard government gave five thousand dollars for a baby bonus, and there was all of this concern from the left wing media that this was going to be incentivizing teen pregnancies.

Now under the alban Ezy government, you can get the same amount of money in half the time and you don't even have to deliver a live baby.

And what we found from Katie Gallagher this week in the Parliament is that it's not just four three hundred dollars.

You can actually be eligible for paid parent to leave for intentionally having a late term abortion.

So that's a payment of up to twenty two thousand dollars for an intentional late term abortion.

Speaker 5

Adams Wellard follow really just.

Speaker 4

On this issue because I think this is a very new onsue.

Abortion is always presented in the media as either your four or you're against, and when it comes to late term abortion, I would say the great majority of people who are pro choice are troubled with late term abortion, particularly now that we know a baby born in twenty five twenty six weeks can survive.

So tell me about how many late term abortions are happening in Australia because we're told it is so rare.

It only happens when the mother's health is in jeopardy or there's some catastrophic health issue with the child.

How many healthy babies are being aborted late term?

Speaker 21

So between twenty ten and twenty twenty in Victoria they were close to five thousand babies who were keeltry at late term abortion.

In South Australia in just the last year, thirty four perfectly healthy babies in non emergency circumstances had their he injected with poison and we're delivered dead.

And to be clear, and late term abortion is never needed to save a mother's life late in pregnancy because a late term abortion takes twelve to seventy two hours.

The quickest and safest way to end that pregnancy for a mother whose life is in danger is to do an emergency sea section and get that baby out in an hour.

There's no need to kill that baby first.

In fact, that would delay care for the mother.

So it is an absolute myth that late term abortions are emergency health care for mums.

Speaker 6

They just done not.

Speaker 21

And it's also a myth that these are babies who are going to die anyway, they have a fatal fetal anomaly.

Seventy five percent of late term abortions in South Australia, which is the only state to keep rope to US data, it shows that seventy five percent are healthy babies.

And in Queensland, late term abortions have doubled in just three years.

So there is a clear problem, but the word is not getting out.

People do not know about this and that's why on my YouTube channel and on my social media at doctor Joanna, how I am you know, putting my career on the line to get this information out to the Israelian people.

Speaker 5

James, So just tell me, you know, you said thirty four in South Australia.

Would these payments have been made to every one of those thirty four mothers?

It is a suggested that they were actually allowing this pregnancy to continue to this point to get that sort of payment.

Is that what we're saying here, like, like, do we have evidence that people have actually done this to get the payment?

Speaker 21

So we don't actually know how many of these mothers who are having intentional late time abortions of healthy babies.

We don't know how many of them are getting this payment because the government doesn't even collect that data.

All that is required to access either pay per and to leave or the still one parenting payment for a late time abortion is to have delivered a stillborn baby and to have the midwife or hospital sign off on that information.

And so we actually don't know how many are getting it, but I do know from whistleblowers who have contacted me, and I've had midwives from hospitals in New South Wales, Queensland and South Australia contact me about this since last November telling me of their distress that this is occurring.

And one midwife spoke of a woman who she delivered the stillborn baby of intentionally and that woman saying that she was going to use the payment to fund a holiday in Bali, and it was very distressing for that midwife who told me of that scenario.

Speaker 6

And I think the point is, even if it's not.

Speaker 21

All of the thirty four women in South Australia who had an intentional late term abortion of a healthy baby that access this payment, the fact that it can be access that you can get up to twenty two thousand dollars in Australia by the Abnezi government.

That is a news story and it should be on the front page of every newspaper, but there's actually a cover up.

Pauline Hanson asked questions about it this week in the Parliament.

You are the first news outlet to even cover this story.

Speaker 1

This week, and I wanted to ask you, just briefly, Joanna, exactly that point about the politics.

I know Pauline Hanson has spoken out about this.

Where are the coalition on this?

Do you get any support?

Do you get any sympathy empathy from any coalition state or federal you're laughing.

I think there are some.

Speaker 21

Look, the Coalition is a waste of space at this point, led by Susan Lay.

You know, the reality is they are labor light.

There are some excellent coalition senators like alex Antique.

Matt Canavan's another standout, but the reality is they just don't have the guts to attack this issue when ninety nine percent of Australians would be appalled that abortion is available up to birth, and they would be even more disturbed by the fact that you can get up to twenty two thousand dollars in a cost of living crisis.

That's tax payer money going to fund and incentivize lateterme abortions.

The Coalition should be speaking out about this, but they are just too weak and scared.

Speaker 1

Well, Joanne How, that's why you're there to do the research and to be the spokesperson, and you do it brilliantly, and keep up the great work.

And thanks for coming on Outsiders and a dreadful, dreadful topic.

Joanna How does an amazing job there keeping Australia's mind focused on this topic and it's not going to go after the break James's earth bomb.

Speaker 5

Hello, welcome back to the program.

You're watching Outsiders with your hosts Rowan Dean and Rita Panahy, and of course i'm James Morrow.

Well, things are starting to heat up for Julie Inman Grant aka the e Karen has wud liked to call her here, the Australia Censor in Chief, the American woman who used to work for Twitter in its pre elon days where her job was to make sure only the official approved lefty narratives were promoted on that site, and who somehow managed to fetch up in Australia using our local lack of free speech protections to try and regulate what American social media platforms, which are of course protected by the First Amendment, can run on their sites.

What an absolutely fascinating career arc that has been now.

You may recall that a few months here ago here on truth Bomb.

In fact, I think it might have been the first or the second truth Bomb segment we did on this program.

I broke the story of bombshell emails between Julian mngrant and an outfit called the Global Alliance for Responsible Media, which sought to pressure advertisers to use their purchasing power to, among other things, stop, as the emails put it, the contagion of Donald Trump.

Well, this was a great scandal and now in a win for the good guys, and thanks to the efforts of Senator Alex Antick in South Australia, The Australian said it has voted in favor of a move to demand Julie mngrant release all her correspondence with the group.

We only saw part of it that came out from a House Judiciary Committee investigation in the United States.

But as they say on TV, wait there's more, because you'll never guess who else inmngrant has been chatting to.

Speaker 22

Olvering is really quite heroicious.

It's when it helps to take some lives and makes them sounds for coach seeing them in congress or mainstream market.

So disinformation's origins are slightly less atrocious incredible.

Speaker 5

Yes, that's right, Nina Jacobitz, whom the Biden administration tried to point as their own E Karen, whereas they called it in the US executive director of the Disinformation Governance Board.

And guess what, well this was one big girl boss, E Karen love In.

Let's go to the documents, shall we.

Here's an email Nina, thank you for your kind words, and I am beyond excited you'll be out here in Australia.

I'm Sydney based and have a few ideas about how we might be able to do some really interesting work together to make some serious impact.

Multiple explanation points.

I made it through Senate estimates relatively unscathed, but it was a marathon.

Much talk was coming up a trip to Australia by Jankowitz here where there was lots of important business happening, Yes, important business like this.

Edmund Grant breathlessly reported to Jankowitz, quote, I have secured exciting from eleven thirty to twelve through down September sixth after your meeting with the unions with the Gender Leaders Group.

This is including the most senior women in government, including the Ambassador for Gender Equality, the Commissioner for Domestic Violence, the CEO of the Women's Gender Equality Agency, and the head of the Prime Minister's Office for Women.

How exciting.

Well.

Julian M.

Grant was also full of praise for The Sidney Morning Herald's Peter Hartcher, saying he is a great and thoughtful journalist and one who you can count on to get the nuance right.

But don't worry.

The news organization you are fighting is full of culture war hit jobs on us on a fairly regular basis.

Gee, I wonder, guys, who could she have been referring to.

Well, maybe this email will clear things up.

Quote Hello Nina, it is midnight and I'm about to turn into a pumpkin.

But I was just looking at your website today and was reading your story on Politico and was just struck by how the playbook is so eerily similar.

Even the language the fringe senators are using about me being a useless idiot a trader and Sky News using me as their favorite punching bag every night.

Seems all too familiar and not very original.

Unquote well, Anosh, I wonder who that's friend Siah could be?

Could be our friend Alex, I don't know anyway, Thanks for watching mc grant.

I'm so glad you're a big loyal Sky News viewer.

And from one American to another, how good is free speech?

Hey?

Almost good as good as nil?

Jacko whits is.

Speaker 22

Singing information honoring is really quite ferocious.

It's why not has to take some minds and makes them sound precocious by saying I'm in Congress formation mate.

Speaker 3

Information's origin seems likely less.

Speaker 1

Atrocious unbelievable, but seriously, seriously great, great work there, James.

And as James says, he broke this story several a couple of months ago here on outside, as in his truth Bond segment, which is why we have the truth bomb.

But that what is so disturbing is the clear heartisan nature of this.

The safety commissioner, who's supposed to be the independent nothing to do with politics, looking after child safety.

Those emails didn't see much.

Maybe it was send some other email about protecting children.

But the reality is and they to their eternal shame, the Coalition put this woman in that job.

Speaker 5

What a joke.

Speaker 1

But we have as a partisan political hack in charge of you and my and all Australian's Internet usage.

That is terrifying.

Speaker 5

Well, you know, it actually goes further than that.

You know, this is and this is why I highlighted it in my piece, this idea that you know, this American woman has come out here to take this job here.

And you see not just here, you see in other countries.

You see what's happening in Ireland, in the EU, in England, places like that.

The United States has a very precious thing, the First Amendment, which protects freedom of speech.

It is absolutely precious and I wish we had something like that here.

But now in the globe these days of the global Internet, excuse me, the fact that the Internet appears everywhere.

They're using these foreign jurisdictions to try and get around the First to essentially restrict American Internet companies and restrict their free speech because they appear in other jurisdictions.

So it's a very sinister, I would say, illiberal, anti liberal in the classical sense of the words, push against free speech.

And it's sinister, and that's why I am so passionate about talking about this and opposing it here every chance I get.

Speaker 1

But Julian Mangrant famously said too, I forget.

I think it might have been rebel news.

I can't remember that it was one of the Australian journalists.

And this Julian Mangrant at Davos.

I mean that says all you need to know is said, Oh, Australians don't have the first amendments, so she was quite happy, very handy read.

Speaker 6

And that's precise.

It was also happening in the UK.

Speaker 4

And one of the methods they're using to censor free speech not just in their own countries but everywhere is to impose these crippling fines on social media platforms that are now where people get their information, where they communicate.

And it is very Auwellian and the liberals again missing.

Not only do they point this activists into this role, they have stood by her despite her obvious political activism, despite her embarrassing herself and the country.

Speaker 6

Let's not forget the legal fights she's lost, She's lost.

Speaker 1

Free Speech Union.

She keeps losing against Free Speech Union and.

Speaker 4

Trying to censor that footage of that alleged terror incident in a Sydney church, trying to stop that all around the world, not just in Australia.

It would be bad enough of it just in Australia.

And then we've got the Shadow Communications Mster Macintosh just repeating the propaganda and pretending like the measures taken are to protect children as opposed to limit free speech and limit access people have to information.

If the liberals can't even be sound on something that's a free speech issue, then they're in deeper troubles.

Speaker 1

Therewith all, Well, the real danger, and this is a very very serious, is that in one hundred days or less, we have all these new regulations coming into place, the under sixteen YouTube ban, under sixteen social media ban, which apparently it's still still up in the air precisely what the Safety Commissioner is planning to do to make this thing work, But potentially every Australian will have to have some kind of digital idea, which is an absolute, absolute disgrace and infringement upon every civil right of every single Australian.

But this looks like it's happening, and there's no as readA says, where's the coalition arguing against this, the Party of Mensies.

You have to stand up for free speech.

If you don't, you you really don't belong in our parliament.

Speaker 4

Let's again be honest about where this under sixteen social media ban started.

Speaker 6

It started with the liberal parties.

Speaker 4

They're the ones who embraced it first and albit easy copied it.

And the fact that they can't see even if this policy was entirely well intentioned, I would argue it is not.

Speaker 6

But even if it was, if it was.

Speaker 4

Really just to protect vulnerable teams from bullying on social media, for example, the fact that I can't say the obvious unintended consequences of a policy like this that impacts everybody is just to me bizarre.

You would have to be so ignorant of the modern media atmosphere and the way people now get their information, particularly people under forty and James.

Speaker 1

I found in you brilliant Editoriallier, but I found really disturbing that line about oh I emerged unscathed from Senate sc hang on, Here's a government appointee talking to some American about her dealings with our elected officials and complaining, sort of complaining about accountability surely she should be saying I went to send an estimates, was great and they're really happy with the job I'm doing.

That could be the only simple response.

But to be aware that she was somehow scay, that it's confrontational, that she's looked going against the will of the Australian people.

That's really disturssed.

Speaker 5

Well, I mean, and this is the thing, you know, and this is why this transfer of email is just goed by FOI is important.

This is why the ones with the Global Alliance Responsible Media are important because what it shows is that, you know, these things, these efforts are not just happening in a vacuum.

You know, this is a coordinated, networked approach to try and restrict free speech.

Restrict I would say, would be used easily to try and stop things such as protest movements like the one we're seeing today, trying to discuss people trying to discuss you know, anything that they decide scenes transaction all my favorite hobbyhor my, you know, crime by migrants.

You can see that being oh that's a threat to social cohesion and it becomes very much you know, a Chinese totalitarian style of things.

Yeah, a less explicit social credit, but basically the idea that anything well and you were right rolled earlier in the program to get very sort of wary of this term social cohesion because you know, it creates this idea that anything that rocks the boat is somehow dangerous, and therefore you have to go along with what the authorities is saying.

You know, they know best, they know best, We just let them do their thing, and anybody who questions that then suddenly becomes oh, well, hang on, you're a threat to social cohesion mate, and we'll actually say that's.

Speaker 4

Why China has a social credit system.

It's basically that same philosophy about social cohesion.

You can't have people protesting, asking difficult questions, challenging the narrative that's being pushed, because that undermines social cohesion.

And we hear our politicians from both Labor and the Coalition liberals.

I haven't heard too many National Party and p say it, and that is troubling that they would put this forward as an argument against any is something that you shouldn't have in a free country.

Speaker 1

Absolutely, And one more disturbing thing, James, which I found really really disturbing.

Peter Hartcher, it's not his fault.

But I'm sure the ABC will be onto this media watch.

I bet they're busily writing it down now.

Oh, Peter Harcher has been said by the E Safety Commissioner, who's supposed to be completely a political, completely independent, she's naming to a foreign entity.

She's naming an Australian journalist as being politically motivated and putting the correct nuance.

You can rely on him to put the correct nuance.

Well, I hope Peter hart Well's hanging well, he doesn't need to hang his head in shame, but he should be mightily embarrassed that that is how he is viewed by the so called independent E Safety Commissioner.

I've never heard of anything more despicable, and I'm sure Peter Harcher is actually a decent blow would be horrified if he knew he was being talked about like that around the world by a so called independence online social You know, if you're the censor, the censor and you're favoring certain journalists because of their nuances and their political opinions, you have no role.

She should be immediately disqualified from the role.

Speaker 5

Well, yeah, I mean Peter Harcher is a lovely guy.

Saven camera all the time.

But you know the other point of this is that she was attacking another news outlet, this one here, scot News.

That's straight.

So if you've got so let's just stop and think about it.

Let's just stop and think about this for a second.

We put an awful lot of our content on YouTube.

People check it out.

They watch a lot of stuff on YouTube, which is governed by the Safety Act.

And you know, everybody who's who's regulating what Now would there be a conflict of interest here to be regulated by somebody who says, oh, well, you're you know, you're biased, You're this, you're that, you're a bunch of crazy.

Speaker 4

Testing James that this highly political activist who's in this role could perhaps have a vendezza against Sky News, which.

Speaker 5

Domina very cynical reading YouTube.

Speaker 4

Sky News has got a bigger following on YouTube, over five million subscribers, bigger than the ABC channel to nine, all of the free to airs completely.

You know, their audience is minimal compared to what we're getting on YouTube.

And you've got a Safety commissioner who's got a vendezza against the network that has a massive audience on YouTube, and she wants to limit access to YouTube for fifteen year olds.

Speaker 6

I mean, I don't know.

Is there any sort of conflict of interest here?

Speaker 17

Is there?

Speaker 6

Is there any conflicts?

Speaker 11

Now, don't be so cynical, readers perished through the day children, She's protecting you.

Speaker 6

Left is losing it.

Speaker 1

No, let's just remember that.

Listen.

We're going to take a perfect segue into our next segment after the break, whiley of the Week and gets.

Speaker 5

Might be in there.

Speaker 1

Yes, Julie, we'll see you there after the break.

You're watching Outsiders, and thank you so much for watching us every Sunday morning.

We certainly do appreciate your company, Thank you for those who send in your nominations for Wally of the Week.

And we're going to kick off with She's already been mentioned once on the show, Clementine Ford.

Have a listen again to remind ourselves of what a great candidate she is for Wally of the Week.

Speaker 3

The Australian Federal Government, under its lily livid fing coward of a leader, Anthony Albanezi, expects us to believe that somehow God Iran has been responsible for antisumtism.

Speaker 1

Great work, hold it together there, that's great work.

Speaker 5

I can't imagine, I ran, no, whoa all flag?

Yeah?

Speaker 6

Wow, she has just had a big week, hasn't she.

Speaker 4

I mean the clips I played earlier in the program, they were well, I could only play certain parts of that because I'd tell you you thought what you heard was bad, and then that I mean, really, she supposed to be first and foremost a feminists, and for her to be seemingly defending the Islamist Iranian regime that systematically subjugates women, that beats women, kills women for defying the country's hijab laws, that treats women like second class citizens under the law that imposes Sharia law on them, for her, as a feminist to do that is well, I'm not even surprised because that's what they're like.

Speaker 5

I just find this all sort of trend here.

I mean it was for a while, but you know, you look at this.

You see this one.

You saw Abby Chatfield, She's Rosie o'donald.

This whole thing where they all get, you know, writing close to their phone and give you these performative, weepy, angry, scary sort of performances all for clicks.

And it's just such a bizarre phenomena that people are even interested in this stuff.

Speaker 4

Well, I mean, this is why so many people are endlessly entertained by TikTok and Instagram and x because there are these lefties out there who want to share their well you could say, issues with the world, and they do it by filming these die tribes and sharing it.

And I've got to say, as someone who puts lefties losing it together each night, I'm very grateful.

Speaker 1

I want to go to another favorite because I did mention it just before the break of course, E Karen Julian Lungrant.

Of course, Julie will put you back in Wally of the Week.

I know you missed out last week, but you know you're a regular and you like your place on Wali of the Week, so you're back in this week.

As James pointed out, your emails to your fellow E Karen on the other side of certainly made you worthy of being Wally a specific specific so you're another candidate there.

We've also got a Dan Andrews Wali of the Week, but this is with a difference.

This is the Dan Andrews statue for Wally of the Week.

Speaker 3

Daniel Andrews will soon become a permanent fixture in Melbourne.

Speaker 5

He's absolutely urnted.

Speaker 6

I think that is a disgusting thing to say.

Speaker 2

The bronze statues likely price tag more than one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1

One hundred thousand dollars for Dan Andrew's statue.

What do you reckon read to bargain?

Speaker 4

I think actually I don't have a problem with this because I think we need a permanent reminder of the well, Yeah, the man who imposed six crippling lockdowns on the state, who did untold damage to not just the emotional wellbeing of millions of Victorians.

Speaker 6

But the financial ruin nation of that state under his reign.

Speaker 4

Yeah, let's have a permanent, solid strut that people can reflect upon and perhaps, you know, do better next time because we get the politicians we deserve, we're Victorians.

Speaker 1

Well, maybe they they took places the statue right there at the centotaph where all the rubber bullets were five or perhaps they could choose one of those shopping malls in Melbourne Wich are now completely deserted and gone bankrupt and put the statue there.

Speaker 5

Maybe they could put it.

Maybe they could put it on top of a big MACHETI amnesty bin, you know, my male though my mail is I know a lot of people upset about this, but the pigeons of Melbourne, i am told, are absolutely about this.

Speaker 6

It's costing only one hundred thousand dollars for a statue.

That is a bargain.

Speaker 4

That's a third of a MACHETI aesty around four hundred thousand dollars for a bin that suppose criminals are going to putting their machetes in, we hope, So this is this is a bargain of these statues around, or they.

Speaker 1

Could have one next to them, which is the Brett Sutton statue with the mask on.

Oh yeah, good as well, James, only the weak Oh yeah, were you?

Speaker 17

No?

Speaker 1

I mean.

Speaker 5

I'm not eligible.

I work for the station.

Speaker 1

But no.

Speaker 5

The But we spoke so much this week or this Sunday about the events of the Ballarat Bush Summit.

But there was another bush sub at the New South Wales Bush Summitt.

Waa waa yeah, and it was a great event hosted by the Daily Telegraph and Hancock and everybody else.

But Chris O'Keefe who used to be for People in Sydney two GB Drive host.

He's fetched up now as the National spokesman for the Clean Energy Council.

He had a debate with Barnaby Joyce over net zero and it didn't go too well for the man.

Have a look interesting, So I want to tell you how your power how well?

Speaker 23

We're going to call these are the places that are deer, that are chief of the nas power Stralia at point two four, Uruguay, El Salvador, Luxembourg, Grace and Jurors Spain.

Speaker 1

We need gas, but gas is extraordinarily expensive.

Speaker 14

It's really expensive.

Speaker 5

Finally, when we.

Speaker 1

Have talk about gas, back up for your indominance.

Speaker 5

Of course, but gas, what the idea is.

Speaker 23

Back up truck when it's coasting downhills.

Speaker 5

Now, for about ten minutes there, Barnaby Joyce just belt in the poor guy, you know, and the audience was having none of it.

We didn't get all the sort of the crowd reaction and booze into it.

But no, this guy, Chris O'Keefe, I think he's got to be the wally of the week, So the breevious wally for even going up and standing up before that that audience to be schooled and learn a thing or two about clean energy from Barnaby Joyce.

Speaker 6

But at least is you know, he's fulfilling a role.

Speaker 4

He's the spokesperson for this body is getting trade to say a particular line.

But just into Allen and the Prime Minister as we work in the program.

They got booed out of Ballarat at the Bush Summit.

They were actually chased out of there.

So they've got to be a joint nominations as well from this week's of the week.

Speaker 1

Absolutely, we've also got Paul scar.

Speaker 5

The I don't know if we've got the vision of it, but yeah, let's have a look at this here on the Senate floor.

Speaker 24

This pamphlet and what is stated on it is causing great distress, is causing great distress to Australians of Indian heritage.

It is causing great distress and concern to Australians of Indian heritage.

Speaker 1

Now what he.

Speaker 5

Referranged you there was a pamphlet that was going around and circulated around this these marches that are supposed to be happening today, which pointed out that it claimed that in the last five years more people from India had come to Australia than Greeks and Italian has to come.

I think since the since the end of the war.

But the point is about you know, the mass numbers.

Speaker 6

But is that all it said, or was it in any way racist or.

Speaker 5

Was it just there was just that point is the one that has been going around.

I don't know what the rest of the pamphlet said, and if it said so, you know, more derogatory.

Obviously you condemned that.

But to get weepy on the Senate floor over this Biza, it's bizarre.

And he got ratioed so hard on his Twitter post that he actually protected his tweets.

Speaker 4

Oh dear, So we've got a shadow minister who is now protecting his tweets, essentially going private on the biggest social media platform because he's too scared of what constituents.

Speaker 5

To He's You've got a lot of people say, you know, what are you doing here?

This is ridiculous.

Ed you have again the failure of the Coalition to grasp the nature of the issue and to and to be able to make an intelligent, nuanced statement about migration and numbers being too high, not migrants being bad.

And this is the thing they get, so they get so terrified of being tired with the neo Nazis enophobic rush that they can't actually do what people are asking, which is just simply turn it down.

Speaker 6

It's not twenty fifteen anymore.

Speaker 4

We've moved on from the day is when anybody cares about those false accusations of racism and bigotry.

Everyone's awake to that nonsense.

And you look at the US, you've got many migrants, in fact, the majority of a certain number of migrant.

Speaker 6

Groups that backed the deportation programs.

Speaker 4

So notion that if you're a migrant to a country, you're for open borders and no limits on migration is entirely false.

Speaker 1

And as James said, if that was all, I mean, if there was worse on the pamphlet, then that's to be condemned for what it was.

We don't know about that, but you're right, James.

We have to be able to have these sorts of discussions about immigration without.

Speaker 5

A national character.

Speaker 1

And there would have been just as many Indians who would have read if that was all that was on the pamphlet and said, yeah, I agree, absolutely.

Well, if you want, if you want to lump everyone together and say there are all these Indians who think this way and all this you think this way, I mean, you know, that's the whole point of a free society that everyone should have.

Speaker 4

If the coalition wants to win over those voters who are voting labor eighty five percent, we're told by a labor polster, then they've got to actually do the work.

You can't just do some teary cringe speech.

You've got to actually look at what they care about.

These people are socially conservative, They're very much ambitious.

I want to build wealth.

Appeal to that, Yeah, opposed to.

Speaker 1

Hate the transagender.

Let's vote on our wally of the week.

Kind of leaning towards Chris o'keith.

I must say I thought that was pretty pretty funny.

Speaker 6

He's had a bad enough week.

Speaker 1

The guy.

Speaker 6

It's hard.

I mean, you know, I've got my Karen Karen.

Speaker 1

I just got a text from the Karen.

She she wants to be Wally of the week.

All right, okay, Jules, you got it.

That's fine, no problems.

Thanks for texting me, Jewels.

That was great.

Yeah, you're well of the week this week.

That's great.

After the break, so we've got some celebrity cricketers this morning.

Rita the first one, who would that be?

Well?

Speaker 4

Should we start with the captain, because why not the Australian cricket captain.

He's lobbing the Prime Minister to use one hundred million dollars of our money to make sporting clubs more capable of us withstanding climate change.

Naturally, Pat come and says, this is about giving clubs a fair go so they can keep the lights on, keep people playing and be part of the shift to cleaner, cheaper energy.

Speaker 1

And I thought renewals for the cheapest energy, So why do they.

Speaker 4

Need any Apparently that one hundred and this is you know, a man whose job requires him to fly all around the world.

His own carp and footprint would be enormous.

He likes sports cars, so you look at his lifestyle and you look at some of his activism and again this seems to be.

Speaker 1

Why can't they just play cricket?

Speaker 5

James just cut power bills so that sporting clubs can afford to keep the lights on.

Speaker 1

Cricket under the lights exactly, played during the day like everybody else.

How about Usman Khuwaja, who's the Prime minister, decided why not have a pro Palestinian cricketer out there as well?

Got a climate trigger, You've got a pro Palestinian cricketer.

Oh, he's showing courage on guys, are terrific.

This is so good, Alban Easy, you're doing such a great job.

The Jewish community are really feeling comfortable.

So your two years of leadership on this issue, kja to.

Speaker 6

Hear do the whole thing interesting?

Speaker 4

That's again you know he's meeting with feminist Instagram influencers who think nobody should be having children because the world's ending.

Speaker 6

And there this character excellent.

Speaker 1

Let's also well, I think in light of Pat Cummins, we should play a clip from Donald Trump this week.

He was talking about the UK.

But listen very carefully Albo and Wang and Bowen, because he'll be talking to you guys next.

Have listened to Donald Trump.

Speaker 17

I hate to mention countries, but you look at the UK.

What's happened and you can't have energy costs of going through the roos because of when they want to do everything close up the north, the northern parts of the country.

They have oil, it's tremendous and they close it up and they're building windmills all over the place.

And I tell them, you're my friends, but man, you're going to have a bad awakening very soon.

Speaker 1

You're going to it's going to be very bad man.

You're going to have a bad awakening very soon, very bad man.

Those words were addressed to kids Damer but they equally apply to Anthony Albanisi and to Chris Bowen.

Speaker 4

Rita, they do, and they better listen because that first one on one meeting with the Prime Minister and the President is going to be very interesting and we want tickets to that.

Speaker 5

Oh yeah, But the think is in the White House that you do know that that they are very aware of Australia as a country that has destroyed it's manefacturing ability, destroyed its energy and it's become dependent on China.

They're not happy.

Speaker 1

They're not happy.

That's it.

We're very happy here that you've been watching us on Outsiders this morning.

We'll see you next Sunday at nine am.

And of course during the week you've got the Rida Panahe Show every evening, and then Friday, the big one.

You've got the World according to Rowan Dean at seven am.

Then you've got James Morris's US Report, and then you've got Rita Panahe.

What a Friday Evening?

Go out on Thursday Instead, we'll see you next Sunday morning.

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