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Well, it was the end of the year comes.

We all are looking.

Oh, we always look forward to what's going to happen in the new year because the new year to me is a new, it's a birth.

It's a birth of new ideas, new thoughts.

And uh and surely that comes back home to our health and HHS, the administration, what's going on, what can we expect in the new year?

Of course, all of that.

So we've got that.

Another interesting thing I seen I want to ask Dr.

McCullough on this vitamin D.

You know, I'm always fascinated with vitamin D.

It's one of those things.

And uh that it lowers risk of heart attack as well.

Fascinating piece put out by National Geographic is interesting.

A lot of questions here.

QA 178.

And by the way, uh Merry Christmas, happy holidays, happy Hanukkah.

Welcome into the broadcast on America Out Loud Pulse.

It is Malcolm out loud here, along with my co-host.

Dr.

Peter McCullough, Merry Christmas, happy holidays to everybody out there listening.

It's been a great year.

It really has been quite interesting.

And uh I always look forward to the new year.

Do you do that as much as I do?

It is.

I think it should be a time for uh renewed optimism, uh, what we can look forward to.

We've completed another year together on this earth, and uh I think you know uh as we emerge, you you know, we're emerging five years out of the pandemic.

Everybody is looking back and saying, wow, look at we've been through, but what can we expect in the future?

Yeah, it's a good way to put it.

It's a good way to uh sum that up, actually.

You're you're very right, very right.

Um let's get started here.

This um uh this new uh this thing here, the American Health Restoration Affordability Act.

I guess you call this.

They always do the acronym, right?

With some sort of a sound to it.

But uh anyways, listen, thank goodness it's no longer gonna be Obamacare, and thank goodness it's not gonna be Trump care.

If we've learned anything, Malcolm, I don't think people should put their names on health care.

Well, I don't think they should put their names on a lot of things, frankly.

I just had uh you got me going already because that's a conversation I just had with my wife.

I I'm serious, just moments before, or just a little earlier here.

We were sitting talking, I said, you know, I said he's putting his name on all kinds of things.

I I don't know that that's the way to go here.

And so for a lot of reasons, a lot of reasons.

So no, I don't think so either.

I think they should stay off of it.

And uh so what is this going on now?

This um uh American Health Restoration Affordability Act.

Do you like what you see?

Well, yeah, it reforms uh this Obamacare subsidies.

Remember, all the discussion was about 15% of Americans who receive health insurance on the exchanges that the Obama administration through the Affordable Care Act had uh you know enabled.

But the problem there is there was no control over premiums.

And so the insurance companies kept raising premiums, and then the government, you know, kept raising the subsidies so people could pay the premiums, and the insurance companies left all the way to the bank.

Uh and this got to the point, it went through COVID-19, and these got really jacked up.

And guess what?

The insurance companies never drop the premiums after the pandemic.

And so uh this that was the predicament we were in.

And so the American Health Registration uh Restoration Affordability Act or ARA is also called the Maha Health Care Bill.

Um has uh, you know, it has a lot in it.

Uh and and that's it includes subsidy reform, which is important.

So um there will be a uniform base credit.

Every citizen and legal permanent resident receives a federal health credit of $350 a month usable towards uh health premiums.

Now, this will be a you know a form of a tax credit.

Uh or in prime direct primary care memberships or or health cost sharing cooperatives.

This would include like wellness company, uh, the memberships uh, for instance.

Um uh it'll also fund probably less than half of one month's health care uh insurance premiums for people who are still going to be out on these exchanges.

There's an income adjustment.

Uh if incomes are below 55,000 for individuals or 110,000 for family, there's a slide supplement additional adds up to 150 bucks a month.

There's no clawbacks involved.

It's portable, you can move between states.

Uh alternative care is eligible, uh, which uh is encouraging.

Now, here's the here's the flaw in this.

So if if the consumer is empowered here, the hope would be that, well, they could go to different companies and and they would compete for lower insurance rates.

Malcolm, let me ask you, have you ever heard of any insurance sector lows lowering their premium rates?

Once you give it, you can never take it away.

Never.

Never.

Insurance companies never lower rates.

They don't respond even at competition.

So this is very interesting.

So I do not think this will personally, I don't think this is gonna bring insurance rates down.

That's the um that's the flaw in this.

But what people will do is now they're gonna probably look for alternative health solutions.

You know, wellness company memberships are uh a terrific idea.

Direct primary care.

People, for some of these direct primary cares in Dallas, for instance, they pay 150 dollars a month.

They have unlimited clinic visits.

I mean, this is really this is pretty amazing.

Um most people are on generic drugs anyway, but the um so the drug course uh drug costs are not uh a big deal.

Those who are in branded drugs, Trump is already working separately to try to reduce the um the cost of branded drugs.

But uh this overall is a sweeping change.

I would interpret it as being a positive change.

Um for those in the health freedom world, there's a lot of things coming your way in terms of you know, people getting a supplement, for instance, for uh direct primary care.

That's terrific.

Or for wellness company memberships and you know, other types of alternative delivery.

The hospitals and the clinics and the traditional fee for service model, they're gonna be put under pressure.

You have to give the power back to the patients.

That's what this is all about.

If you don't give the power, if you keep giving it to the big insurance companies, we'll we're all screwed, basically, uh, because the cut costs are gonna just keep sky right right or wrong.

Right or wrong.

True.

I mean, the the dollar amounts per month.

And some people on Twitter, after we posted this on focal points, you know, they were telling me what they were obtaining on these Obama care exchanges, Malcolm.

Yep, yeah.

It was outrageous.

Yeah.

And so the companies were just you know, making out like bandits.

You know, during COVID, they said, oh, we're gonna have more costs, so therefore we're jacking the premiums.

And then the federal government says, well, okay, we'll just subsidize these higher premiums.

And it became a vicious cycle.

And I'm so glad that Congress, and you know, largely this is the reason why the government shut down.

Right.

That's right.

People stood their ground.

The government was closed.

Uh, I think it was closed.

What was it closed for, Malcolm?

111 days or something.

Yeah, well, they didn't want to give in to those subsidies.

They didn't want to just keep uh pushing that uh, you know, the train down the track there.

Uh what was happening was going to go right overboard, the Obamacare thing uh with the subsidies, which they did through COVID.

They kept going with that, as you say, and then big insurance took advantage.

Of course, they always do, and they never give us back, as you say.

So not surprised by any of that.

But um it it is time for something new.

But the problem is the political elites were unwilling to let this go.

And the left, it was very personal to them.

And remember, this was the bill.

Remember this.

Remember when Nancy Pelosi said that uh we'll just have to pass it to see what's in the bill.

Right.

Right.

Right.

That's like yeah, that's like Eric Rubin saying, well, we're just gonna have to, you know, vaccinate the children to see if the COVID vaccines are safe.

So uh Pelosi, you know, at her late stage and her staff are unwilling to read the bill to figure out what's in it.

So they're gonna just look at the response.

And it's interesting that the left, which is typically about freedom and against uh, you know, big uh industry and what have you.

The left actually sided with the big insurance companies.

Yeah.

Well, they they always do, I find.

Uh they're in fact uh the I mean I know we probably don't want to go down that road, but uh, the left, they always, if you look at this whole thing in the news cycle right now, I think you'll agree, Peter.

They they always seem to agree or settle with the criminals or with uh the convicts or with uh I don't know what's going on with the radical left, but they're out of their minds.

Um they really are in trouble.

They seem rudderless, yeah.

Uh without leadership.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think listeners know this by now.

I think they can size things up pretty pretty quick and know that uh this was not a good thing.

So uh, you know, sometimes you have to do most times.

I mean, they should do what's right for the people and not just for their pol what's political uh efficiency, you know, whatever.

Um Malcolm, they the public learned on this one not to believe the false narrative.

Now, the false narrative coming from the left was the Republicans are gonna take away your health care.

They tried like hell.

That's tried like health.

Yeah, that was the false.

Narrative.

No, you're healthcare is not taken away.

The Republicans were trying to find solutions to help people out financially.

So do you think the people got caught on to that?

You think they caught on to that point?

Yes.

Yes.

And I think that's the difference now.

Listen, people are free to make their choices.

No one's taking health care away from them.

Medicaid or state programs, a large portion of people on Medicaid, those still exist.

You know, 99.99999% of people who turn age 65, they go on Medicare, Malcolm.

Despite people, you know, complaining about government health care.

Boy, they sign up for Medicare like quicker than the other.

Well, you have to, or you lose it if you don't, right?

Is what they say.

I mean, well, yeah, and but but people put it this way even the most patriotic people.

Right.

And some of the actually honestly, some of the wealthiest people I know, Malcolm.

They could afford to pay all their health care.

They're so wealthy.

And they still sign up for it.

They still sign they still sign up for Medicare.

Well, my wife said though, and I don't really know this is not my area here at all, but she tells me that you get a notice in that you kind of have to do it.

The government notices that like it's like not an o I don't think it's an optional kind of thing, is it?

Or is it?

I don't know.

You know, honestly, I don't know, but I'm not surprised with D his reporting.

I'm not surprised, you know, you get these messages from the government, and and you do feel like geez, I need to do something or I'm gonna get kicked out.

Yeah, that's what I understand.

That's that's exactly it.

No, that's the framing of the message they put forth.

And by the way, I got a news bulletin for you.

You and I are headed there pretty quick, by the way.

Well, you know, a lot of our listeners are heading there.

So we we you know, if you're in your 60s right now, you know, you we need to pay attention to a couple things.

Pay attention to Medicare and what's going on there, and pay attention to social security.

This is very important.

We you've got to pay attention to this and and your retirement accounts.

Uh because you know, this is the time in your 60s when you if you do good navigation, make the right decisions.

Uh life can be pretty good and it can be pretty good for your kids.

Make the wrong decisions and watch out.

Right.

That's exactly it.

That is exactly it.

And uh, well, hopefully, so let's talk about this next year here.

What what what do you anticipate in from well from all of it from HHS from health from our beyond all everything we just talked about, of course, from uh do you see?

I mean, are things you know, it's been a lot of controversy for the first year with RFK.

Uh not him specifically, but uh surrounding him, I'm saying uh where um it almost like he couldn't even do anything right at one point, like but they were accusing him of that.

I think he was fighting a lot for things people didn't even really see or understand that he was doing.

You and I talked about this a week or two ago.

The bureaucracy is so out of whack.

You just don't walk in there and change everything overnight or flip a switch.

I mean, it's complicated, it's very, very complicated.

The more I look at the evidence, I think he's done a pretty reasonable job here.

What do you anticipate for 2026, Peter?

Yeah, I agree.

I think both Trump and RFK get favorable marks.

Um but y you know, in the second year of the administration, Malcolm, there's gonna be some departure.

So I wanted to ask you who do you predict is high level departures from the U.S.

government.

Yeah, that's a good question.

It's a good question.

Uh I think one that is uh I think there's a couple, but I think Christy Gnome is uh um seeing a lot of back reports on her.

I like her.

This is not my opinion, of course.

I think she's done a remarkable job, but I think she is I don't know, in jeopardy, maybe over the next year, I think possibly.

And the other one I think that could be he's very controversial.

President he he they always say they like them a lot.

Like he they they can never not say that, you know.

So oh, I always like him.

I was like the other one, I think is under great scrutiny.

They're trying to sink him as quick as they can as Pete Heggseth, uh Secretary of War.

I think those two are under great uh concern.

I think RFK Jr.

is gonna be safe, don't you?

Yeah, I think he will um you know he's said to be one of the more popular cabinet choices.

There's 15 cabinet members out of us myself included.

I can't name them all, but I certainly recognize RFK as one of them.

Let me ask you another question.

D in in this year, the second year of Trump's term, is this the year where people start to signal that they may ultimately run for president?

Yes, a 100%.

Uh right as the midterms come up just before then, you're gonna see mid year.

Names are gonna start coming heavy for the presidency.

And then as soon as the midterms close, I mean, it's it's all out.

I mean, it's a battle royal.

Uh so there's gonna be a lot of speculation uh between now and June, July, August.

But that's when things will start to happen.

But I have to tell you right now, these midterms are critical, Peter.

They're critical because uh, you know, all bets are off.

If if um if they don't if they don't secure, if the right doesn't secure the right votes coming through this midterm of President Trump, I was just in fact telling Dee last day or two here that uh you better hope these midterms don't get nasty because if they go the other way, they're gonna take over the whole system, and what's gonna happen is you're gonna have impeachments, you're gonna have all kinds of problems.

And then if they all if they run the house, if the radical left runs the house, all these investigations are gonna come up.

They're gonna be investigating everything.

I mean everything.

It's gonna be nasty, it's gonna get ugly.

Uh success is gonna drop.

Trump will no longer be able to focus on any positive things.

Uh it will all be rubbish and negative, and this is horrible, but this is what happens.

And normally the uh president in power, their power party doesn't normally win, which I think is ridiculous too.

But that's normally been the case.

And I think because people get very unsatisfied with Washington, D.C., Peter, I think they get very, very unhappy with it.

And no matter who's in or what's happening, and they want more.

They they think we can get better, and they hold the party in power responsible, and that is the Republicans.

So they got their work cut off of them, buddy.

So are you predicting that the Democrats will prevail at the midterms?

No, I am not.

No, I am not.

Uh I am not I I I didn't say that, but thank you for asking.

No, I do not.

I mean, when I mean prevail, I mean, I mean uh, you know, history says they have uh a great advantage.

History says that, but there have been two or three times where the party in power was able to keep it on.

I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, you and I are gonna know in the next many months.

If by June, July, August, if the momentum is still there and he's accomplishing things where they need to be, and there has been no uh lack of uh these uh tur turn lack of turmoil.

We don't need turmoil or price.

If that's yeah, yeah, if that's removed, and this and it's feeling good, then they're gonna have a very good shot of uh of of of keeping the House and the Senate, which has happened before, but it is it is very rare.

It doesn't happen a lot with the party that's not in power, that isn't power, you know.

And and who do you predict is in next year?

I mean, now's a good time to lay it out there.

Who's gonna toss their hat into the ring, let's say, on the Republican side of the case.

Oh, it's gonna be easy there.

You know who it is.

You already know who it is.

I mean, it's gonna JD Vance has got his, he's already running for president right now.

If you watch his speech this past week, in fact, watch how watch his cadence and watch how he says certain things and how he says them, he is definitely running for president, no doubt about it.

Marco Rubio, I don't know what's going to happen there, and I hate to see, you know, I I I really don't want to see a war.

If politics is ugly, running for the presidency is ugly.

Friends become enemies real quick.

And I hate to see Rubio and Vance duke it out in the way that probably will happen.

But Rubio probably thinks it's for him as well.

But I think Vance is in a better seat, although I like Rubio a lot.

Don't you like Marco Rubio, Secretary of State?

He's doing a great job, uh, Secretary of State.

He really is.

Yeah, I would say actually, I I think uh Vance for sure.

Rubio, actually, for sure.

Yeah.

And I would say RFK.

Yeah, I'm not seeing RFK.

I th I I'll be surprised if he does.

I think he's had enough.

I I don't you you think he's gonna run back in?

Do you think so?

Uh listen, he's out there doing pull-ups and doing all this podcasting.

If he was about ready to hang it up, yeah, you know, he'd just be quietly administrating HHS.

I don't know.

I think he feels as if there's a family legacy.

Well, I gotta tell you, he has uh let me be honest with you.

I like him.

He has zero chance in winning, and I think he knows this right now.

He has zero chance, and I don't boast about that.

I I like I like the man.

I don't think he has any chance of winning.

I'll tell you why.

It's not complicated because he has well it's not a nice word when you say the P word, but uh irritate is a better word than pissed off.

So we'll use the word ever take.

He has irritated the Democrats the left, and he has irritated the Republicans on the right.

He has created too many enemies on both sides of the aisle.

I still think he's gonna try them.

I think it's yeah, I don't have I d I like him.

I think it'd be very interesting, but I don't think he's uh I don't think it works.

And I I'm not sure he's gonna run.

Uh uh, we'll see.

But I think he's uh I don't know.

I'm I get a different feeling.

I get a feeling he's had enough.

He's been watching all of this go on, and he's not gonna beat Vance Arubio.

I mean, not with the Republican establishment.

It's not gonna happen.

So I think he sizes that up pretty quick.

I think he knows that pretty quick, and I think he's not a dummy.

He's a smart guy.

Why sacrifice your life and go through all of that crap?

And it's pretty ugly when you run for presidency.

They pull everything out of your back drawers, you know.

Come on.

Right.

Well, he knows he was the runner up by the Republican Party.

That's right, yeah.

I'm not sure.

Many credit RFK with you know allowing, you know, really basically enabling Trump's victory.

Oh, he was a big part of it.

Oh, absolutely.

So that tells you, listen, he knows a lot more about running for president and going all the way than Ruby Orvance does.

So I think it's going to be interesting.

Now, how about on the left?

Who do you predict?

Well, you know who's you know who's positioning for it, right?

I mean, you know who it is.

I mean, uh uh starts with N and ends with E.

Mr.

Uh Hair Gell uh from California.

Uh yeah, I mean I think he's written a book, right?

And he's um uh he's positioning himself.

Oh, big time, big time.

And recently there was some flack between him and Kamala Harris.

Uh yeah.

I see that.

Do you think she's gonna make another?

I don't think so.

I think they're all talking about it to sell papers and magazines and things like that.

Like, could that really happen?

But I don't think so.

I think she knows she's way over her skis here.

I I'm pretty sure she's figured that out.

She's I mean she may not be the most brightest bulb in the package, but she's not a complete idiot.

I mean, she's done a lot of things over the years and has had some success.

So but no, I think she knows that she doesn't have a chance.

And and let's face it, this last election and everything that happened there was a complete abomination.

It was a disaster on every level.

And you can't recoup from something like that.

So I think she's I don't think she's gonna run.

I think she's just teasing.

You know, they all want to stay relevant, Peter.

They all want to keep their names in the news.

You know what I mean?

They all want to be relevant.

That's what I find her doing recently, is trying to be relevant.

And she puts things out there like it really matters, but nobody really cares what she says because it's mostly gobbledygoop and unintelligent, really, to uh you know, comprehend what she's trying to express.

So I don't think she does it at all.

There are some others in there that are gonna fight new some Pritzker uh out of Illinois, the governor, who's a very rascally fellow.

No, he wants the presidency, by the way.

And he's got and he's got big money behind him.

He's got the Hilton money, remember, the family money.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So he's got big money.

He wants it.

He wants it.

So yeah, I think Pritzker, I think they're Hyatt hotels, right?

Uh okay.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay.

So uh what about some of the radical left uh um uh they say AOC is gonna run.

What do you think of that?

Well, listen, they they saw Mandami win in New York.

Oh boy.

They may think, listen, we got the younger uh You're gonna scare the hell out of people right now with what you're saying, Mike.

No, but I mean I'm just we're just trying to listen.

It's the end of the year.

We're trying to put our cards out.

Uh I'm gonna say Gavin Newsom for sure.

And then I'm gonna say at least somebody from the radical left.

I agree.

I don't think um Kamala's gonna do it.

I think Bernie Sanders just is just too exhausted at this stage.

Oh, Bernie Sanders.

Well, he's he would have won a couple of times hadn't had they not done what they did.

In in the Democrats side on the left side, they picked the the the candidate, the the people don't.

Uh Bernie Sanders won twice.

He would have been the candidate, but it never happened.

Yeah.

You know, the other one who might run is uh Budaj.

Budigeg has been built in his uh he was the guy um the Department of Trans, he was in Secretary of Transportation, I believe it was, you know, in the above in the uh Biden administration, yeah.

And he's another one.

He's leading, by the way.

But Buddhag is still is leading some of the polls.

AOC is leading some of the polls, and Newsom.

Those are your top three, by the way.

I just and I uh and I've got a poll right here on my desk that confirms it.

Budajd, Newsom, and uh Ocasio Cortez.

What do you do?

Do you know what uh Buddha's name actually translates into?

No, what is it?

Yeah, my wife knows because it's actually derived from the um the the Semitic language, you know, the Semitic is uh is Aramaic Arabic, and then from there was um was uh uh Hebrew.

And uh it means uh Buddha means house, and Jez means chicken.

So he's actually the house of chickens or chicken house.

I had no idea.

Wow.

Wow.

So uh anyhow, so let's get back to H.

He didn't have a choice.

He didn't have a choice.

So by the way, Tim Waltz wants to run.

He's a buffoon out of Minnesota.

Oh my god.

And Gretchen Whitmer out of Michigan, she might have a shot.

Josh Shapiro, Pennsylvania, he's very popular on the left as well.

Yeah, I think out of all those, I think Shapiro is is kind of more presidential than the he is out of Pennsylvania.

He's very well liked, and he could get a lot of people on the right to actually go for him.

He's more of a centrist more to towards this side, more of that JFK size that's typically long gone out of the uh Democrat Party.

The other one who wants it is out of New Jersey, by the way, but he is a loony tune, and that is Corey Booker.

He wants it now.

No, he's he's I think he I don't think he'll be viable.

But no, Josh Shapiro, I think he I kind of think of him as technocrat.

And um I think he would uh you know he would have this appeal to the right and left.

I think we probably will be heading for a president who begins to unite the country instead of dividing.

We have to have a president who has to stop insulting the other side.

Interesting.

And so when Trump goes, that's gonna be the difference.

I don't think uh JD Vance will do it.

I don't think Rubio will do it.

Um it's just not their style.

Well, I that's a great point.

But you know, I don't know.

These two parties, you bring up a very good point, Peter.

I'll be honest with you.

And I talked about it for many years.

I swear to you, unite in the country.

I was very much on that page of trying to bring Americans together and what it would take to do that.

But these political parties, the ideology has shifted so badly, so severely between the two parties.

I'm not sure that there's I don't think that's on the menu, brother.

I don't I don't think that's gonna happen.

This is what I think.

I think no one on the radical left can do it because uh let's see.

Uh uh, you know, all they do is throw insults, and I consider Newsum on the radical left.

Oh, big time.

He is the radical left.

Right.

They are now Josh Shapiro could.

I don't think Pritzker could.

And then on the right, I think uh I think J.D.

Vance and uh Rubio could do it.

You know, they they're they're not spewing insults.

No, I think they both could.

I thought you said they couldn't a bit ago, but I was gonna disagree with you, and now I agree with the case.

Well, they could.

They could.

Absolutely.

Just think about who is not insulting the other side morning or night.

Now let's get to HHS.

Yep in health care is kind of uh my area of interest.

Um there's always gonna be uh some shifting and some uh personnel changes.

Now, we've had the first year without a surgeon general.

Okay, so this is worth mentioning.

That is distinctly unusual.

Wow.

And and I didn't even think of that.

Yeah.

And so, you know, Trump says he doesn't know who Paula or Casey means as uh the the young woman who dropped out of her uh ENT residency.

But since she's still in it or isn't she trying to get it still?

Well, we we don't know.

I mean, her Senate confirmations were dropped, she was said to have delivered a baby.

Uh there's been a messaging there.

Uh her father, Grady means is the big uh quiet power broker behind the scenes, apparently moving chess pieces.

Uh, you have the their son um Kelly means running his company um uh uh inside HHS and violates every ethics, you know, the tenant under the sun.

She has her own company called uh levels.

And I tell you, health freedom people in America in general, they have got a real bad taste in their mouth with both of them.

So uh I would like to see just a new name come up, somebody who's tried and true, trusted in the public health service.

There's plenty of insiders, plenty of outsiders.

Um I I'd like to see that.

Who are you thinking?

Who you think?

Well, you know, I again there's there's so many out there.

There's so many uh who are qualified.

Uh just anybody outside of somebody who dropped out of a resident.

What about Peter McCullough?

Well, uh you know, I the situation, I certainly discuss it if it came up.

Uh right now we're having much better success changing public policy outside government than inside government.

We really are Malcolm.

Yeah.

Um But I we need a surgeon general, so for sure that's gonna happen.

Um I predict that uh you know, one of the positions in the FDA is gonna drop.

This guy Vin A.

Prasad, he tried to drop out.

Uh he's in charge of Cedar, the Center for uh uh um uh drug evaluation research.

He um no uh no, he's in charge of um the uh uh uh Verbeck, the vaccine biological related uh uh group.

Uh you know, he already tried to drop out and and take his uh job back, and then he got convinced to come back.

And now this memo is said to leak under his leadership showing that 10 uh COVID vaccine deaths.

He's being set up to be kind of the sacrificial lamb.

And uh and I I think he's I think he's gonna go.

Uh we have Tracy Hogue, who's gonna be brought in as uh, you know, a higher position in the FDA, and she's already being heavily attacked.

Uh she was one of the first doctors to publish about COVID vaccine uh myocarditis, and she's on the CDC uh ACEP panel right now.

So expect uh Tracy Hogue to see her name uh in the literature.

She's from UC Davis.

And um I predict over at CMS, you'll probably see some names shift.

I I have a feeling that um Dr.

Oz will probably uh probably be CMS.

Really?

And you know, he'll say, well, yeah, I did that for a year, and I uh, you know, I helped out the new administration.

And he may move on with new things in the media or he may be.

Have you seen anything?

Are you is that uh just a guesstimate on your end, or have you seen it as debate?

Somebody's going to move.

Somebody's going to move.

Because I think that group is very tight, by the way.

Uh that with Oz and RFK, all of them, the four of them.

I think they're very tight.

Yeah.

Well, they show up together in the media, which is, you know, the other guys didn't do that before them.

That's right.

Um, but there will be some change there.

Don't forget we still don't have a CDC director.

So we have uh Jim O'Neill.

So we still have to get a real Why do you think they haven't moved fast on a couple of these positions?

Why do you think that's oh, it's because uh Bill Cassidy is having an absolute all-out war against RFK.

And with Bill Cassidy is Maggie Hassan and Bernie Sanders.

And what RFK, I think his calculus is is that he can do more without having to drag somebody through Senate confirmation.

So he's taking advantage of this interim time.

Uh, you know what they recently did under O'Neal's leadership, is they're moving to ban all transgender uh procedures.

I've seen that.

Yeah.

It's not just pull the funding.

So they're doing that.

You probably heard the other news that they're moving to actually change our vaccine schedule to match uh that of Denmark's, which is a far less intensive schedule.

Right.

That that's on the fast track, I think.

Right.

So all this is happening without a CDC director.

Yeah.

Without well, because RFK is really calling the shots there, though, I think, you know.

So he wants I mean, I mean, to some degree he he he he is, and you know, I give great credit to Trump and his inner circle on this.

They have not dropped the ball on transgender.

They have not dropped the ball on prescription drug pricing.

Yeah, yeah.

They have not dropped the ball on the vaccine schedule.

Yeah.

So um Yeah, he's he's like the ultimate multitasker.

You know that the ultimate multitasker.

Trump's keeping these uh topics alive.

Give him a credit, you know.

I think the listeners know sometimes I'm very critical of Trump.

He's uh you're right.

He's he's he's juggling all these balls in the air.

It's an art.

It's an art.

Not everybody can do that.

Not everybody can do that.

He's not letting anything drop.

Yeah.

And um, he's not having a lot of instability around him.

In fact, he even uh remarked at one of his recent speeches.

There's been no scandals in this first year.

That's exactly it.

Yeah, that's exactly it.

That's what I was just saying a moment ago to you early on.

If they can continue that through June, July, August, September, where you don't have any big problems, uh, any big scandals, issues, what have you, then the midterms look a lot brighter.

But if they pull him down and they go there to whatever degree that and that's what they're trying to do right now with the Epstein stuff.

They're trying to pin something so big on him and so uh, you know, disgusting that uh it will destroy any momentum coming into the midterms.

I mean, let's face it, they're dying to get back in power.

They want the power, and the left does, and they were making a lot of success with the the Biden years.

The radical left were were running the whole program.

Biden wasn't running it.

Malcolm, I'm I'm gonna predict that the Trump administration is gonna have the the economy roaring by some.

If that happens, I'm telling you right now, Peter, if that happens, you're gonna have an amazing midterm.

There you go.

So I think that's the key.

I think it's looking good, by the way, what you're saying.

In fact, did you see by as we're talking right now on the holidays?

It was just reported on the last day or two, uh, the the third quarter results came in and they were phenomenal.

The growth in the economy were off the charts.

Nobody predicted it.

It was tremendous, and yet everybody's running around and saying the sky is fallen.

Right, right.

So I I think if the economy is roaring, uh I predict uh and I have predicted nothing will come up of these Epstein files.

Nothing's gonna come up of investigating Obama and Tyson Gabbard and what have you.

Like, just like nothing came up in this deal dossier or the Durham report.

All that's just gonna be just uh grinding it out.

I think it's gonna be the economy.

Yeah.

Um both sides are it's interesting.

They're making some political headway on this idea of affordability.

Yeah.

Have you noticed that?

Oh, that's been the word.

No, we've been reporting on it.

Yeah, we've been reporting on it on Viewpoint this Sunday and talking about it a fair amount, economists and everything else.

And uh, you know, basically they take four years and they trash the economy, they spend like drunken sailors.

I mean, they destroy everything, and the inflation is over nine percent.

Uh Peter, it has never been that high in our lifetimes, ever, ever.

And it's over nine percent, and things are through the floor, and then uh Trump comes in, he tries to fix big things, small things, and the economy, and right away, you know, this well, you promised on day one you're gonna do this, this, and this.

Well, uh, you know, there are some times where you it takes time to do these things.

And yet they they tried to blame the whole economy and affordability on Trump, which was an absolute joke.

It was absolutely ridiculous, the whole thing is.

I mean, come on, right?

The price the president doesn't set prices at uh Costco and Ridiculous and Walmart.

But you know, it's interesting to see the political parties and how they are messaging this unchanged, but it's really a perception.

Don't you agree?

We the vaccines just keep coming up in the news over and over again.

If the new if the new vaccine schedule is something that the health freedom people can accept and and the new uh, you know, the healthcare orthodoxy can ultimately deal with, and it's more a doctor-patient decision, uh and get it out of the news.

It would be nice to see our attention truly turn to improving the health of Americans.

And that doesn't happen through debating a vaccine schedule, Malcolm.

No, yeah, it'd be it'd be wonderful to to hear about advances and diabetes.

Yeah, they gotta fix things though.

They gotta they've gotta move on and do they they they needed to take your advice over the last few years, and we wouldn't be having this conversation, you know.

They didn't, you know, really.

All right, let's uh let's do this.

I want to ask about this vitamin D, but we're gonna do it on the other side of the pore.

It's gonna take a break here.

And you know, I want to tell everybody, I've been hearing a lot of reports that I know you have, Dr.

McCullough about uh flus and viruses and a little more hefty season coming up here, a little more aggressive, I guess, best way to say it.

Uh people believe.

I I know a lot of friends and stuff that have these sicknesses, flus, viruses.

Is that what you're seeing, or what's going on with that?

Is that yes, for sure, colleagues in Europe in the UK.

It's said to come here.

I've heard some reports out of Canada.

It may be more severe, but people need to get nasal sprays and gargles, use them twice a day, have wellness company emergency kits, get prepared.

Every indication, Malcolm, is the vaccines are not stopping this flu season.

No, no, no, no.

All right, so I'm taking a new regiment health regimen.

So as we speak now, and as we're getting ready for a whole new year here, it when you go to uh the shop, America Raoud.shop, and just click the wellness, and you and you can go there as well by going TWC.health forward slash out loud, by the way.

But here's what's cool.

Yes, what's cool?

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I had worked with the uh wellness company folks, stay out loud and healthy in the new year, it says I love this.

I love it.

And with that, by the way, the four things I'm highly recommending you take that I'm taking right now, right this minute, and and D is as well, my wife is is the ultra NAC, big time.

The mag and yep, the magnesium complex.

This is my ingredients of health and natural immunity for the immune system and the D3.

Gotta have the D3, uh, which I want to talk about in a moment.

That's a huge thing.

Those four things, if you take those four things on a regular basis, I think you have a really good shot at being healthy and out loud in 2026.

What do you say to that, Dr.

McCullough?

And Malcolm, what about you and I eating no sugar, no starches, light on the saturated fat, and exercising right after this show.

I am broadcasting from Beaver Creek, Colorado.

I'm going outside.

It's a sunny day, and I'm gonna run up the mountain as hard as I love it.

I love it.

I love it.

I wish I was there with you, man.

I love it.

I love it.

I did hey, I walked by five miles earlier today, by the way.

So I'm I'm okay.

You don't even know what number I'm up to.

I don't even know.

I have to look at what number am I up to, Peter.

Do you know?

I know, but listen, let's make a pact now.

No colds or flu now for a year.

Amen.

Let's do it.

I mean, I think we can do it here, and let's stay fit and healthy.

No hospitalizations, Malcolm.

Amen.

Amen.

And that's the Russian.

I know our listeners know about this.

You couldn't control the last one.

But let's have a good year.

That's right.

Well, what I say to you all the time, we have to play offense, not defense.

If you play offense with your health and your immune system, you're gonna be far ahead, right or wrong, right?

Right.

That's my offense and let's everybody let's just actually make a promise to ourselves now.

Amen.

All of us are gonna, if we need to drop a few pounds, get a little bit more flexible, get a little bit strong.

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You're feeling good.

I can I can hear it in your voice.

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Oh, Dr.

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He likes me, he exercises all the time as well.

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Okay, we join you back here, my fellow Americans on America Out Loud Pulse.

It is Malcolm Outloud here along with Dr.

Peter McCullough and privileged to be with you always, my fellow Americans.

Welcome back into the broadcast.

And uh we're talking a whole lot about the new year, what's coming up and some predictions, I guess, best way to put it for the new year, Dr.

McCullough and I were.

And uh, I want to ask you this real quick, though, about the vitamin D.

It was an interesting piece, and I mentioned it up front, uh uh National Geographic.

So it's I guess it's my question to you, more or less, but uh can vitamin D lower risk of heart attack.

Low levels of vitamin D seem to raise your risk of heart attack, but scientists are still trying to figure out why and whether supplements help might help to protect you.

Vitamin D has long been known to play an important role in the body, but a certain uh they say that uh high higher levels of vitamin D can prevent the risk of heart attack.

Do you know is this accurate?

What do you hear about this?

Anything?

Every analysis looking at this, Malcolm, always comes up with the same conclusions.

Along the lines of cardiovascular disease and neurologic disease, vitamin D, in particular vitamin D deficiency always seems to be implicated.

There's a paper published in the top cardiology journal circulation, probably about over 10 years ago, and it was titled vitamin D, the Sunshine Vitamin.

You know, implying that we probably should have vitamin D levels of actually 100 in the bloodstream.

Most of us think you know, 50 to 100 would be ideal, but some suggest even more.

Uh, you know, half or more of our vitamin D comes from our sun exposure.

So, you know, all of us are sitting on computers, looking at Zoom screens, not getting outside.

You gotta get on exercise like we do.

Yeah, and you gotta get out there.

Um, I shot a quick video for Instagram yesterday, and I, you know, I was I was up in the mountains.

Uh there's no snow this year, by the way, Malcolm.

So we're just hiking, we're not skiing.

Wow.

But I was up in the mountains, I was getting some vitamin D.

And uh, you know, it needs to happen.

You can only take so many vitamin D capsules.

But in general, the answer is yes, vitamin D is a nuclear hormone, it's a hormone.

Right.

And when cells get vitamin D, they're healthier, including the cells in the blood vessels lining the blood vessels, corneal arteries going to the heart, as well as the cells in the heart.

And some of the uh studies link vitamin D deficiency to heart failure.

Well, that's what I'm confused.

It helped me because they say here low level, low level.

What is a low level, first of all, do you know?

Low level would be less than 25 on the blood testing.

You try about 25 25,000 IUs?

No, 20.

That's the blood level of the units, you know.

So it's it's actually measured in the bloodstream.

Okay.

So, um, if you're taking, if you're taking 5,000 IUs a day, for those who take that, is that considered uh what good or bad to it's not enough, Malcolm.

Yeah, yeah, I take way more than that.

I take 1520.

Do you?

I take 10.

I take 10,000.

But you know, D and I are taking 15,000 a day, and if we're feeling a little off, we take 20.

Okay.

Well, uh, listen, a range that you can shoot for if you get your blood test is between 50 and 100 nanomoles per liter.

Okay.

And you're measuring 25 hydroxy vitamin D, which is a proxy for kind of your sunlight and an oral intake of vitamin D.

Now, severe deficiency, less than 12 nanograms per ml.

Every study shows that people are sick.

Now, even less than 25 ml uh nanograms per ml.

It's still too low.

So if you take at least 10,000 IUs, you think you people are good with that?

Yeah, but we did uh Nick Culture and I did an analysis on focal points, and and most people need 10,000 of vitamin D.

And going higher is fine.

I personally have never seen a case of kidney stones because someone's taking 20,000 a day.

Uh, you know, can we take 15 mostly, three?

We take three that they're 5,000 IUs each, so three, and then but if we're feeling off or something's not right, I hit it a little harder.

Right.

But think about two aspects to heart disease.

So there's the epidemiologic data about coronary heart disease, and then also heart failure.

They're two separate things.

Right.

And, you know, why not play your odds?

I am.

I know I don't miss my vitamin D in the morning.

Malcolm I, but I'm traveling.

I don't either.

I don't either.

I don't either.

No.

Why gamble with this when all the data are positive?

Well, I tell you, if you take the vitamin D3, you take that ultra NAC I was just talking about.

The magnesium is so good for us for so many reasons.

And that natural immunity, I mean, come on, Peter, you're kicking ass at that point.

Well, I like you say you're playing offense, and if we've learned anything, the body can be assisted with these nutraceuticals for better health.

I know, gosh, five years ago, I was sick every month with with colds.

I didn't feel well.

I exercise was way down.

You know, I'm coming on a year now without a cold.

I had just a very brief one last year on uh February or so.

I I'm gonna pull hard.

I recently had dinner with Nate Jones, our friend uh at Clear.

Uh, he uh flew into uh Beaver Creek to have dinner with us.

Nate told me he hasn't had a cold in 20 years, man.

Well, yeah, you he said that.

I know.

He said that.

Yeah, yeah, it is amazing.

But again, that that the stuff works, the the throat spray and the uh the nasal hygiene, and you've been preaching that for years, so to be sure.

All right, let's get to this first question from Gene.

I've experienced minor palpitations in the past, but they appear to have cleared up now, thanks to your detox.

I'm not sure if they were caused by the vaccine or not.

It's very concerning about myocarditis, but I but encouraging that Dr.

McCullough has said previously in this experience that detox helps the heart to recover it and that he has not seen a cardiac arrest once a person starts the detox.

I'd like to ask Dr.

McCullough on what basis does he base the improvement on.

Does he see blood panel results improve or see an improved EKG, for example?

Actually, all the above.

So uh people on detox, let's say if they have subclinical mild pericarditis like this listener, we see reductions in the antibody to the spike protein, which is a proxy for spike protein getting out of the body, including spike protein in the heart muscle.

We see improvements in the EKG, less frequent beats, premature atrial infracular contractions, less burden of atrial fibrillation.

This is all I've directly clinically observed.

This and uh we see improved blood tests, including the D dimer going below, D Damer like to see less than point two on the conventional assay, and we would like to see the blood BNP and galactin 3B stone cold normal.

So, yes, we see these objective parameters, and what the listener has relayed to us is the expected course with the detoxification.

What we don't know is how long should we continue it?

What I'm advising is that once patients' antibody levels are below a thousand and they feel well, they could reduce the dose somewhat, but to stay on a maintenance.

That's what I'm doing because I just don't know what the future holds for us.

Okay.

All right, this one's from Brianne.

I really appreciate your work, especially with the spike detox.

I have one concern, however, regarding curcumin.

I heard from a doctor that curcumin inhibits natural RNA RNAs L, RNA is L, right?

An enzyme that degrades RNA, including uh the mRNA.

Could you enlighten me on that?

As surely we'd want to speed that progress.

What do you think?

There's a whole family of RNA ACE.

Uh curcumin in the doses that people take it.

I don't think it has some meaningful effect.

There are so much positive data with curcumin and more and more actually as anti-canner.

Cancer effects and antiarthritic uh effects taken at high levels, Malcolm.

I simply would not worry about it at this point in time.

Kercumen is so overwhelmingly beneficial.

The human body will find a way of getting rid of the messenger RNA.

My favorite way is to actually sweat it out.

Have the stuff come out of your pores.

Okay.

Well, yeah, you've said that before too, yeah.

This one's from Christie.

Uh Dr.

McCullough mentions a test by Roche to measure the spike protein.

I cannot find where to get the test.

We live in Knoxville.

Uh can you provide information on how to get that test?

Lab Corp does a test called COVID-19 semi-quantitative L L G A B.

Would that be as good or comparable?

Uh we can get that through PCP.

Uh if so, at what level would the result be to justify using the spike support is the big question.

Okay, she's really close.

That actually is the test.

But if you follow these steps, if you go to LabCorp.com, click on labs on demand, then click on infectious diseases, and click the COVID antibody test.

That's the test you want.

Sign up right there, put your name and email, pay $69, and then click send, or you know, click uh submit.

And your lab is already prepaid.

You can go to any lab corp in town.

Lab Corp is in every big city and every small city in the town in the country and get your blood drawn.

That's how she can do it.

She's right.

Primary care doctors don't want to do this because they don't want to know.

Now, what level is a safe level?

Below a thousand.

I don't think people below a thousand have anything to worry about.

But if people are um above a thousand, like today I had a patient who's at 9,000.

She's having neurologic symptoms.

I said, listen, you gotta stay on detox.

Right.

There you go.

There you go.

There's the answer right there, too, for uh Christy.

Perfect.

Yeah.

This one's from Daryl.

Uh is Dr.

McCullough aware of increased levels of alpha gal syndrome.

The CDC acknowledges that at least 500,000 Americans have the syndrome, but it's rising with more becoming allergic to red meat.

Revelations are coming that the tick that gives a person AGS is genetically modified by none other than Bill Gates.

Now it makes sense for a scumbag like him to watch us to be weaker, but there's a chance he could get infected.

What is your opinion on this?

Wow.

That's from Darrell.

This is an incredible story.

I think probably one of the best summaries of this was written by Dr.

Alex Diaz, who's on our medical board at the wellness company.

So check out his substack.

It's called Biopolitik.

P I O P O L I T I C.

It's a really, really well uh written sub stack.

But this syndrome is right.

You you get bitten by a tick.

And then Malcolm, you actually develop an allergy to red meats.

And it looks like it's real.

Wow.

So here I am up in the mountains.

You know, hopefully there aren't any ticks here in the wintertime.

But these tick bites are a big deal.

It looks like a real syndrome.

Now, uh you know, the conspiracy theorists among us are having you know a wild time with this.

But check out this piece by Alex Diaz.

There is something to it.

And for sure you want to avoid tick bites, for sure.

And if you see a tick uh embedded in the skin, get it out and follow the directions.

Actually, have a wellness company emergency kit so you can take care of it.

Good advice to avoid the tick bites, and also good advice to uh avoid the conspiracy theorist, by the way.

So this next one is from I'm not making this up.

This next one is from Malcolm.

Uh, not me, another Malcolm.

It's a name you don't hear very often.

It's not like uh John or Joe or something, a common name.

It's uh Malcolm is very weird.

I've never met an actual Malcolm, but this one is a Malcolm.

This the guy, this is a listener here.

Hello, Dr.

McCullough and Malcolm.

Nice name, he says.

Okay, thank you, Malcolm.

Well, I thought I'd share that with you, but one vax injury that isn't spoken about as personality changes.

Okay.

The way is a cure occurs in the vaccine affects the penal gland in the brain and affects the mycochondria.

What kind of cures and therapies can help the mitochondrial function improve?

I've heard nicotine fastening and coffee helps.

That's true.

It's true.

Both nicotine and uh caffeine are methyl xanthenes, they're called nootropics.

Uh the best product we think out there is the mind lift from the wellness company.

That kind of loads up the nootropics.

Nicotine patch works, but you're right.

People's personality changes with long COVID and with vaccine injury syndromes.

They tend to be more irritable, more quixotic.

They uh have disturbances in sleep, and sometimes uh, you know, become uh anxious or depressed.

Check out mind lift.

You could take one twice a day, which is standard.

And for my patients who have a little bit more of difficulty of this one twice a day.

And I actually have some incredible testimonials now where people say, wow, this has really made the difference.

Well, we could all use the mind lift, let's face it.

You know, yeah, it gives us a little lift in life, I guess.

Last one we'll get in here from Laura.

I was wondering what your thoughts are on zeolite.

I keep seeing it all over social media for heavy metal detox.

The NIH website has an article about its effect on the neurodegenerative diseases.

I'd like to know if you have interviewed any doctors who use it in their practice to help with ADHD, ASD, et cetera.

I know some practitioners, primarily nurses.

Uh zeolite is very popular among our nurse network, actually.

Our nurse network on America Out Loud, many of those nurses are familiar with it.

Um, to my understanding is it largely stays within the GI tract.

It could bind some toxins, potentially metals.

But remember, most metals are rapidly absorbed and they get out through liver and renal clearance.

That includes mercury, aluminum, palladium, uh, and others.

So I'm I'm not an expert in zeolite, and you know, it would be wonderful if our new administration studied zeolite because it is a uh safe product on the market, studied it in large prospective randomized double bimpus control trials.

That's what should be done with this new administration.

Okay, all right.

Well, that that is a wrap.

Uh, QA 178 uh is in the books.

And let's see here.

All right, so we have if we play this right, we'll have one more before the new year, I guess, right, Peter?

I think one more.

One more week, yeah.

Before the new year.

So uh, and then we'll we'll take it on there, I guess.

Um, and uh let's see here.

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