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Summer Blockbusters & Jurassic World Rebirth (2025)

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Speaker 1

Hi, Casey.

How's it going.

How are you?

You sound like shit?

Thank you?

I know I do.

I've been listening to old episodes of our podcast, which we're doing right now, and you know, I had a long drive to uh Tampa, Florida, yeah, recently, and it's roughly like six and a half hours from where I'm at.

Damn.

Yeah, it's long.

Speaker 2

I mean that's like Minneapolis to Chicago.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the drive to my parents and they live like across the state pretty much on the other side, like almost directly, and it takes longer for some reason, I think because it sucks more.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

But anyway, I was like, I very rarely go back and listen to things that I've done, yeah, because you always have that moment of assessment and you're just like, why did I say that?

Why did I do that?

You know, we should joke about this all the time.

And I saw what you did, how it just kind of comes out of our bodies.

Then we just leave it, we don't return.

But for some reason, I was like, oh shit, I'm gonna listen to it, and I was like cringing.

I was like going, why do I say the word like so much?

Why do I sound like I have COPD.

Why don't I get my nose replaced?

Why don't I have my personality replaced?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I think you know.

I think you and I are both coming at the show sort of similarly.

I don't think I think you're perfect, and I think I am an atrocity to the audio medium, and I think we both we kind of were talking before we started recording, how both of us would like to change our personalities, our voices, how we say words, our senses of humor, everything essentially, once we listened to the show.

Once we listened back to the show, well, and I.

Speaker 1

Was listening to the episode that we did about Materialist, and you were so goddamn funny, and I was getting jealous.

I was getting jealous where I was like, oh, I have to keep rewinding Casey because he's saying funny things about how Macaulay Kulkin is his favorite actor of all time.

And I actually left you.

I was like, you know what, I'm going to be the bigger person that I'm gonna leave you a voice message to tell you how much I laughed at you in that episode, like genuinely laughed.

And then I started getting in my head about it, and I'm like, god, I wish I could be his funniest Casey.

What the hell's Oh my god, shut the fuck up.

We're bad self esteem dating right now.

Speaker 2

Well, you know, if you take a look at our you know, Apple reviews, I would say that most of them say, I love Millie and I hate Casey and wish he was dead and was she was a piece of roadkill on the side of the road.

That's basically what our reviews say.

Speaker 1

It's just because I'm a dynamic woman and you're simply a man.

Speaker 2

Well it's hard to refute that, you know, but this is in some ways, you know, a promise to our listeners that Milli and I are, from this point moving forward, are changing ourselves entirely.

Speaker 1

The show is going to be.

Speaker 2

It was bad now it will be good and we'll be different people moving forward.

So that's a promise to our listeners.

Speaker 1

Can I get a voice replacement surgery?

How does that work?

Yeah?

Speaker 2

You know, I got the leg lengthening surgery a few episodes ago.

Is there a way?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Is there a way?

Speaker 2

You know?

Joseph Gordon Levitt and a lot of men do this and movie they talk with them, they kind of pitch down their voices and they kind of talk.

So maybe I'll start doing that.

Speaker 1

Mar I need to talk slower and less annoying.

I should literally get my nose replaced, maybe my throat replaced as well.

Speaker 2

Okay, we can see an e nt YES specialist.

Speaker 1

And just I need a complete and utter overhaul.

Do we both do.

Speaker 2

Well?

Speaking of things that need an overhaul, we're talking about a movie this week, Jurassic World Rebirth from twenty twenty five, and we're also going to talk about some summer blockbusters and the concept of the summer blockbuster and what means to the culture.

Speaker 1

Yeah, even like if it is as important as it was before.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you know, I'm going to say the answer is no, I don't know.

Speaker 1

There's certainly chucking them out as they used to.

Are they hidden?

Is the question we'll see.

Speaker 2

And we also have another segment we're going to do which I literally forgot to even mention to Milly before recording right now, But Millie, I thought it would good if we talked about some movie theater etiquette.

I have some questions for you actually, specifically your takes on kind of like movie theater etiquette and where you stand on them because I don't know.

Speaker 1

Oh, I'm ready.

I mean, okay, we got to talk because I do.

This gets brought up a lot in these parts about the movie theater that I go to.

So let's let's get into it, all right.

Well, listen, let's just try to feel good about ourselves and get through this podcast without wanting voice replacement surgery or personality overhaul.

Speaker 2

Okay, yeah, some sort of lobotomy.

Speaker 1

Yeah, let's just feel good.

You're good, I'm good.

Okay, let's let's fresh start.

Keep this gravy trainer rolling.

All right.

On that note, you're listening to the podcast to your movies.

I Love you, Love you, and I've got to.

Speaker 2

Love me to check the books.

Speaker 1

Yes, we're back.

This is Dear Movies, I Love You.

This is the podcast for those who are in a relationship with movies.

Perhaps they're out one night, they're having a few cut waters and they start thinking about that old flame, that old movie that they haven't talked to in a while, and then they get on the phone and they're texting, like at two thirty in the morning, being like, what you're doing?

You know who this is?

You still have my number?

Speaker 2

Been on both the receiving and the sending side of those text messages.

Speaker 1

You know, I gotta tell you, I'm not trying to gasp myself up.

I get them more than I than I.

That's the grets.

That's the golden ratio.

Speaker 2

You don't want to be sending those more than if you're sending I mean, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1

Well, because I whenever I'm trash, I don't want to like remember people.

I just don't want to like be in the moment or whatever.

I don't get sentimental.

I guess that's maybe what it is.

I just kind of fall on my face in the moment.

So Casey, Yeah, our episode this week is kind of crazy because we're doing another new film.

Yeah, wild, it is wild.

We've done a couple that materialist episode that we did.

I mentioned it in the open, was like very like, I got a lot of texts from actually got a voice message from one of my friends, Maggie Thrash, who was a great author, wrote a great book called Rainbow Black.

She was like activated.

She sent me a message and was like it was like a three minute message, maing, like I have to talk about this episode with you.

And it was great because I that I got to just like have conversations with people about the movie.

So I don't know, I feel like now I'm inspired to look more new films.

That's great.

Speaker 2

And just recently it was announced that Selene Song is going to be doing My Best Friend's Wedding sequel, which is kind of like crazy.

Speaker 1

See that movie to me is also kind of.

Speaker 2

Strange, it it I it is?

I Like, I do like that movie.

Yeah, and I love the soundtrack.

That was a beloved soundtrack in my house growing up.

Speaker 1

Who's on the soundtrack?

Speaker 2

Like there's songs like you know, say a Little Prayer is on there, and like the if you want to be Happy for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1

Oh so it's like a boomer sixties.

Yeah, yeah, cute.

Okay, Okay, well that tracks.

I guess the whole Selene Song doing another Yeah, I mean it does.

But I'm just surprised she's going back to that well a little bit.

Oh by the way, before we get into a film diaries, I have to ask because we when I was at the movie seeing Jurassic World, colon rebirth?

Is there a colon?

Is it a dash?

Is it an ellipses?

Speaker 2

There's nothing, It's it's there's no punctuation.

It's Jurassic World rebirth.

Speaker 1

That drives me.

It's nothing that drives me nutty for some reason.

Why is it like that?

Speaker 2

I don't know, could continue anyway, That's a film, Grape.

Did you see the trailer for the New Naked Gun Movie with Liam Neeson?

I it's so funny you bring this up because I, just before recording brought it up to Trisha, my wife, how I was excited for the New Naked Gun movie and the trailer I laughed out loud.

I was really like, this is hitting and I want to see it.

I'm excited.

Speaker 1

I do too.

And it's like I kept thinking to myself, am I crazy for laughing at this thing so hard?

Like because I was looking around and everybody that was in the theater was like pretty much between the ages of like eleven and thirty or something.

There was a lot of young people my screening, and they were probably like, this is some stupid old people shit.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

I but the thing it felt electric watching it because I was like, you know what, we don't have silly comedies anymore.

Like there aren't movies like The Naked Gun or even movies like Austin powers that are just like silly and kind of stupid, but just pure comedy fun, you know what I mean.

It's like they don't have just like dumb stupid comedies like that anymore.

And so it was refreshing to see that trailer in the theaters.

Speaker 1

So my question is, Okay, So you know, the original Naked Gun movies were done by Zucker Abrams and Zucker.

This kind of like classic trio of filmmakers and writers.

They were kind of in, you know, they did like Top Secret and Kentucky Airplane.

So this new Naked Gun is not affiliated with them, right, They're not involved.

I don't know.

Speaker 2

I don't think I think.

Speaker 1

So either, So, but I think it's interesting that Akiva Schaeffer from What Lonely Island is directing, and then Seth McFarland is involved.

They think somehow Okay, So I'm kind of going, I don't know, it feels like those Lowly Island guys are maybe the new Zazz if you don't.

Speaker 2

Well, I did love pop Star Never Stop, Never Stopping, which is directed by Akiva Shaeffer.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I loved that movie too, and I loved Hot Rod.

I liked everything.

What's the one those guys.

Yeah.

See, that's what I'm thinking, is I like, I don't know, it's kind of exciting.

I think, my po Yeah, that there's kind of like new blood in these uh.

Speaker 2

Slapstick comedy streets.

Yeah, I'm all I'm excited about it.

I want comedy like the the comedy.

They don't make comedies anymore.

I mean, we just saw Materialists.

Is that what we're calling a comedy these days?

I mean that's dark, I know.

Speaker 1

I want something extremely silly again.

Is this Is this the movie where Liam connected with your girl Pam Anderson.

Yeah, and now they're a couple.

She's in it.

She's the femme fatale.

Ye make a gun.

But that's how they got together is because I believe.

So.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they're dating now, and I'm I love it.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, I love it too.

I love that Meryl Streep and Martin Short are dating, even though I always thought Martin Shore was gay.

Well, of course, but.

Speaker 2

He could be gay and Street, I mean just because he's a you know, a fabulous short, little dandy.

Speaker 1

You know that doesn't but Barnin Short is not like he's comes from a generation where somebody of that persuasion is most likely.

Okay, yes, what you say, just basically, you know, I'm just saying I feel like, in the modern context you could make that argument, but I don't know.

I'm like, he's fron the old school, the old closet school, yes exactly, but whatever, whatever his persuasion, I'm happy for him and happy for all of these.

It's kind of like stars who are just like getting together later in life, yes, which I think is lovely.

I love that.

Listen.

I am possibly going through perimenopause right now.

I don't really know.

All I know is that literally everything makes me cry, especially when it comes to like love.

Yeah, we'll talk about this in a second where we get in a Jurassic World rebirth.

Oh boy, I know, I can't even believe I'm teasing that.

Speaker 2

I don't even know what you could be referring to.

And I have seen that movie.

Speaker 1

Well, all will be revealed.

Okay, So do you want to do film diary or what?

Yes?

Speaker 2

I do, and I have something too, Well, first of all, let's open up the filmy.

Speaker 1

Oh heavy, motherfucker.

Speaker 2

So okay, I watched a lot of movies this week because I was on vacation quote not really on vacation.

But every year we go, I go up north with my family and some of my extended family and we my parents have a cabin up north and there's a little resort nearby where extended families stay.

So it's like this week long thing that we've been doing for over thirty years.

Speaker 1

Wow.

Speaker 2

And a big part of it is we watch movies every night, and so we watch a lot of movies.

But I guess I wanted to kind of get your thoughts about this because the movie picking.

I don't remember even how we picked what movie to watch, you know, when we were children, but it has become so contentious and there has been there's like arguments and fights every single night.

It almost like ruins the entire movie night watching.

So I just wanted to I think this has been a question of some kind in the past, But how do you decide when you're in a group of people what movie to watch?

Are you the leader in being like we should watch this movie or are you more laid back and like, let's let the chips fall where they may.

What's your kind of attitude?

Speaker 1

Oh, I'm absolutely not the leader.

I'm absolutely uh, I'll do whatever you want to do.

I have realized that about myself in pretty much every group setting.

I think I've talked to you about how I think I told the story.

Maybe on I saw what you did about the time that Danielle and I went to an escape room with some other folks and I had never been to one before, and I just assumed that I would be a real type a personality and want to, you know, get everything going, like wanting to find out clues and stuff.

Hell no, I was actually the opposite.

When put in the situation, I just kind of sat there and let everybody else do the work.

I don't really know why that happened.

And that's kind of how I feel about group movie choosing.

Speaker 2

I am quite forceful.

I take control.

It pisses people off, including members of my family.

We have gotten in like shouting matches this year.

I recommended because there was a smaller group up there, because me and my brother's and a few cousins, I recommended, Hey, why don't we just take a turn every night?

There's like few enough people where each of us could just take a turn.

Because I'm tired of this, yes, and my brother goes, I don't want to do that because I think you guys are going to pick a shitty movie.

Speaker 1

I don't trust you, guys, all.

Speaker 2

Right, and then my other brother goes to that brother, I don't trust you.

And this is the kind of thing weren't dealing with.

This is like Love Island, Yes, very yes, it's just like love Isolentce.

Speaker 1

Well, everybody's fighting and everybody's like thinks that they're out to get each other.

Can I get some demographic info?

Speaker 2

Yeah, okay, So currently it's me and my two brothers, who are both in their thirties.

My youngest brother is thirty one, I believe, and my other brother is thirty four, and I am thirty seven.

And then okay, so it's like ridiculous.

So you're the oldest, I'm the oldest.

And then occasionally my wife Trisha will be there or Brady's wife Jade will be there.

Speaker 1

But they weren't.

Speaker 2

They didn't like attend to any movie watching, maybe because of the fighting.

Then the other two people that joined movie night this year were not even my cousin.

My cousin's children who one is nineteen and one is twelve, and they're not they're kind of getting involved.

Well with a nineteen year old, I was like you need to pick and she's like, that's too much pressure because of you know how much fighting there is it goes on.

So wow, I don't know, it's like a big to do and I need help.

I need have I need film advice.

Speaker 1

As part of the problem that because this happens to me quite a bit, is that you're the only sounds so pampas.

But I'm gonna say, like, people are like, you're the film professional in the like you know about movies more than anybody.

Speaker 2

There is ero respect for my film Knowledgeah.

I kind of love that, Actually there is there is.

I am probably the least respected opinion wise of the group.

Speaker 1

That is so fucking funny because I think this leads back because I always try to pick a fun movie and so a few years ago I was like, we should watch water World because it's outrageous and it's stupid and it'll be fun.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that movie is like two and a half hours long, and my cousin who's nineteen, she is still so mad that I made her watch it and she brings it up all the time.

Speaker 1

Well, I mean I will just generally, I feel like if you want real advice, off the rip, I think taking turns.

Choosing is like probably the only thing you can do, that's what But they wouldn't.

Speaker 2

But the thing is, I'm so not respected that even my suggestion at the solution to the problem was ridiculed and thrown away.

Speaker 1

So well, why don't you consider then taking a little zanny or something or like, you know, just like de escalating your involvement.

Speaker 2

I need to de escalate.

But it's for me.

I like to be involved.

I like i'm I like to lead, I like to think.

I like things to be efficient.

I like to make decisions.

Speaker 1

And you know, you got big Capricorn energy.

Speaker 2

I know, I know.

Speaker 1

That's why I'm suggesting.

What about a xanax?

What about I need to drink ball?

Yeah, but I need to drink a couple more buzzballs.

That's the that's the that's what will help.

Okay, can I go first?

Because I have like I was gonna suggest that.

Speaker 2

Actually, Okay, so I'm just gonna I'm just gonna throw out a bunch of these movies.

I don't really want to discuss them because there's not much to say about them, but these are what I watched.

Fine, Okay, Yeah, so I watched Beetle juice Beetle Juice from twenty twenty four Beetlejuice.

It was fine.

I don't know if it needs to get made.

I watched I watched Napoleon Dynamite, which is a move from two thousand and four.

I actually I have such a strong affinity for Napoleon Dynamite and I like watching it every time.

Sure, so I liked watching that.

Then I watched a movie I'd never heard of.

My brother picked this.

It's a movie from nineteen eighty five called Volunteers with John Candy, Rita Wilson, and Tom Hanks.

Oh and it was kind of fun.

I'd never heard of this movie.

It's like Tom Hanks and John Candy, Rita Wilson, they're in the Peace Corps and it's kind of any.

Okay, it was fine.

There's a good cabin movie.

Then this was my choice.

We watched Chopping Mall from nineteen eighty six.

I love this movie.

Sure, and I think people had a lot of fun.

And it's only like an hour and fifteen minutes.

Oh so they they liked that one.

Speaker 1

Okay, that's great.

Speaker 2

And then on the last night, my brother was so excited to watch this.

My brother Brady.

The whole week was kind of catered around this.

We watched a movie that came out on Netflix Friday night, and that movie is from twenty twenty five and it's called Happy Gilmore two.

Speaker 1

Oh.

Speaker 2

Now I like Happy Gilmore sure, and there were things that were working for this movie, I thought.

But I mean everyone is saying this, there are like eight billion cameos in this movie.

Should Gavin in it?

Yes, Shooter mcgavern, Shooter McGavin is in it.

Speaker 1

God, and but millily you would the the the amount of cameos per minute is so insane and it's terrible.

Speaker 2

I mean it's really bad.

So uh and it almost doesn't feel like a movie at the end.

Speaker 1

Okay, okay, anyways, Yeah, there's nothing else to say about Happy Gilmore too.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 1

But that's all the movies I watched is last week.

Wow, So that's interesting.

So yeah, I was on vacation a little bit over the same week that you were on vacation.

Like I said, I was in Tampa, Florida for like a weekend.

Uh huh we uh.

We had an airbnb.

I was with two of my friends and we instead of watching a movie, and I watch movies with these two a lot, like maybe at least once a week we get together, we have this, you know, scenario play out of who gets to pick the movie?

And I never knew because I just was like, guess what.

I don't give a shit.

If I don't want to watch it, I'll just text, yeah, I'm watching.

Oh.

Speaker 2

You won't even voice an opinion if it's something you don't want to watch, You just like I just take yourself out.

Speaker 1

I just feel like I think it's what do they call it, It's choice exhaustion.

Speaker 2

Yes, I feel like, yeah, that is there's a term for that that I can't think of.

Speaker 1

I can't think of it either decision fatigue, decision fatigue, or choice exhaustion, whatever you want to call it.

My whole life is choosing movies.

So what I'm like in the streets, like hanging out with friends, I don't give a fuck.

I like, do you not want to choose?

If I'm at your house and you've got like a nice couch set up and there's a lot of snacks, and you know, like the mood lighting is great, there's like some nice candles, I'll just literally watch whatever the hell you put in front of me.

I don't want to choose.

I just want to.

Speaker 2

I mean, like you, choosing a movie is like someone going up to a doctor while they're at a dinner party and asking them to, like look.

Speaker 1

At a mole.

Speaker 2

You know, you don't want to, like you're off the clock.

Speaker 1

I'm off no lock, I'm like, I just want to brain rot.

I don't give a shit.

And so that having said that, we decided not to watch a movie in the airbnb.

We had staid watch And I've never seen this show before, the show Pretty Little Liars.

Have you ever seen the show?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I've seen a lot of Pretty Little Liars when it came out.

I can't remember too much.

Ashley Benson is in that show.

Correct, Okay, so I've seen I would say fifty percent of the episodes of that entire series.

Okay, I've seen a lot of it.

But it's been I watched it when it came out, so it's been over ten years.

Speaker 1

Well, we watched like the first maybe two or three episodes.

Speaker 2

It's like a Gossip Girl ripoff.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but it's it's so nutty, Like it's.

Speaker 2

So very nutty and like.

Speaker 1

Ridiculous, and just a lot of storylines, a lot of like dumb things happening.

I enjoyed it.

I want to I'm kind of on the fence.

I want whether or not I want to commit to it because I know it was on for a long time.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but I'm also think there's a storyline about a student dating a teacher.

Speaker 1

Yes, there's there's a line student.

There's the like I know what you did last summary type of vive of like these random texts coming from a possible dead person.

I mean, it's just a.

Speaker 2

Lot that takes me back.

Speaker 1

I love that Sidney from Melrose Place the place one of the moms.

So I don't know we'll see I I but I enjoyed it.

But that we watched Pretty Little Liars in lieu of a vacation movie.

Okay, However, in my film diary this week, I do have three.

The first movie that I saw this week was a movie from nineteen eighty one.

It's a West German film called Christian f I know it well great because I did an intro for it at the Plaza Theater.

You know, it was restored by Janis most.

Speaker 2

Recently, and it was very hard to find for a long time.

I had to I had to rent a physical copy for my local video store when I lived in la I had to rent it from Video Tech.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and that's my suspicion is that Janice, who is the distribution arm of the Criterion Collection, is going to release it on a Blu Ray.

Cool.

So I mean, I don't know, MAKA not one hundred percent confident, but I'm like ninety nine point two percent confident.

So anyway, that movie still hits.

Speaker 2

Tidjellomy famously wore a shirt Christian F t shirt a few years ago.

Yeah, it's great.

It's one of the best drug movies.

It's a very terrifying stark stark film, but it also has some beautiful David Bowie music moments in it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the scene where they're like running through the train station and Heroes is playing, Yes, so beautiful.

Although I was told later by somebody that's in the crowd I believe this person was possibly gen Z or maybe late Millennial, that there were people in the audience going, well, this isn't that big of a deal.

I mean, the Safti brothers made bla blah blah blah blah, and I'm like, shut up, shut up.

If you were one of those people to downplay the importance of Christian F because the Safti Brothers exist.

Yeah, you could go kiss my ass at Dear Movies at Exactlyrightmedia dot Com.

Okay, so Christian F.

Then with my other friends, my aforementioned Airbnb friends, I did watch something earlier in The Little Liars.

Yeah, my pretty Little Liar's friends.

We watch actually something earlier in the week before we left.

We watched Clueless nineteen ninety five anniversary.

I love that movie, but it too, it's so funny, Like it's so funny and like, I mean, it just rolls off the tongue, like every line.

Paul Rudd looks effectively the same as he does now.

Donald Faison is the funniest too.

Speaker 2

What a charming man.

I loved him in That, loved him on Scrubs.

I love when he's like because I'm keeping it real, because I'm keeping it real, because I'm keeping it real when he's getting his head shaked.

Speaker 1

Oh, it's my favorite.

I clipped it out and put it on my Instagram, as will you.

That's what his friend says.

But it's a good I mean, it's so it's just so easy.

It's such an easy watch.

And then my biggest My biggest hit for the week is that I watched two thousand and one, A Space Odyssey from nineteen sixty eight in seventy millimeter in Atlanta.

I have never seen that movie in a movie theater before, have you.

Speaker 2

Wow, I've seen it in seventy millimeter uh at the Aero Theater in Santa Monica.

Speaker 1

Amazing.

It's a good one.

It's a good one.

I'm so glad I watched it at seventy mili because I was, like, I am like, first of all, it's three hours.

It doesn't feel like three hours.

And I think that part of that fact is because there's an intermission.

And part of what I want to propose is that if your movie is over, maybe even two and a half hours, if it's if it's pushing three minutes, you an intermission.

I'm sorry.

If it's pushing three hours, you need an intermission.

Speaker 2

I think two and a half hours, definitely you need an intermission, because that's really long.

Speaker 1

God, it's so long.

And I feel like the intermission is such a perfect thing that needs to come back because it gives people the chance to pee and to reset and to like, you know, a hot dog go outside and vape whatever it is that they have to do.

And I'm just like, I think it makes people like the movie more in a weird way.

Does that make sense?

Speaker 2

You're it's more of an experience, and you're like, I'm having a good time.

Yeah, I'm here to party.

Speaker 1

I will say that saying two thousand and one and seventy millimeter made me realize how how much of a horror movie that movie is, and that how is a movie villain?

Yeah, so not out there.

I can feel it.

I was like, you little bitch.

I was so pissed.

I was like, oh, he's unplugging you, and now you're like, I have feelings.

Yeah, Kierre Dulay, don't unplug me because then I will be sad.

I'm like, no, motherfucker, you're a machine.

Speaker 2

It's really what an effective movie, and it is scary, like you said, like that where that shot of the other astronaut getting like jettisoned out of the Gary lockewood.

Yeah, and it's completely silent.

Speaker 1

That's freaky.

Yeah, the look the Kubrick silence stuff really hits in the theater.

And then also just that whole like sequence of Jupiter and it's real trippy and it looks like they shot it at like Death Valley National Park and it's all like LSD colors.

I mean, I was like, well, there you go.

That's nineteen sixty eight slash nineteen sixty nine four or so.

But great, what an experience.

I recommend everybody see two thousand and one in the theater in preferably in seventy mili.

Speaker 2

So yeah, it's well, yeah, it's fabulous.

That's great.

Speaker 1

Ye, well, I'm done.

Speaker 2

All right, that's the diary.

Speaker 1

Hose that shit.

Speaker 2

Close it.

Speaker 1

All right.

Speaker 2

We're back for our main discussion today, which is about summer blockbusters, and we're focusing in on Jurassic World Rebirth, which came out this year in twenty twenty five, and by the time this episode comes out, I feel like people have completely forgotten about this movie.

Uh, Millie, what's your relation chip?

You know, Jurassic Park, huge summer blockbuster, But what's your relation to the summer to Jurassic Park and the Jurassic Park franchise as a whole.

Do you have any affinity or love for these movies or the original one.

Speaker 1

Well, this is an interesting question because I did see and enjoy the original Jurassic Park nineteen ninety three, Am I right about that?

That's correct?

Okay.

When you get into this period though, of like ninety three to like ninety seven, all right, those are my high school years, and I I was a burgeoning shithead.

And that's why there is a gap in like family classics in this time period.

For me, this is why Titanic was never seen back when it came out.

This like I can't, I cannot stress enough how being a teenager for me specifically, was about purposely trying to watch things that were not commercial, not family oriented, not blockbustering, Okay, and that maybe has changed for children of the new generations, because I mean I was I grew up, you know, I was a teenager in the nineties, and I was very much not you know, I was a shithead.

I was, like I thought, I was, you know, a Marxist, you know, was punk rock and hanging out with people who huffed and things of that nature.

So I was not, you know, like the original Jurassic Park I saw.

I might have seen that one in the theater.

I definitely saw it on video and I enjoyed it, but then I just kind of forgot about it.

Afterwards, and then by the time the Chris Pratt stuff was happening, I was like, I don't even know.

I feel so lost.

I feel like it's a lost world.

But I you know what I mean.

So I have this weird I have an appreciation for the first one.

Then I completely fell off.

So how about you.

Speaker 2

Well, I was a little boy when Jurassic Park came out and it was so huge with children.

Yeah, of course, and it was the first PG thirteen movie I ever saw, and I was obsessed with it, and I would say that love for that movie carries on to this day.

I think it's my favorite Steven Spielberg movie.

Wow, I love Jurassic Park, and it has grown into something different because I really love movies about men being destroyed by their own technological inventions, like the Fly, and also like a lot of David Cronenberg movies.

More on that later, but that's like one of my favorite types of movies.

And so my love for Jurassic Park has only grown, I think and there and I just think it's kind of a marvel of filmmaking.

Like those dinosaurs still look really good and scary in that movie.

And so I love Jurassic Park.

I watch it all the time.

We watched it in the delivery room when Trisha was giving birth to our daughter.

Wos true story, radical amazing.

And I really loathe all of the sequels.

I think they're all.

I really don't really like any of them, Okay, And it's kind of a bummer because I like love Jurassic Park, and I just feel like none of the sequels have captured recaptured that one.

Speaker 1

So that's sort of my relationship.

Okay, So explain to me.

Explain to me what happened.

So you have the original, then you've got the ones that feature Well, Spielberg did the first.

Speaker 2

Two, so he did, so Steven Spielberg did the Lost World.

Then I can't even remember who did Jurassic Park three, but Johnson Jones, Yes, Joe john he did that.

And doctor Ellen Grant is kidnapped and brought back to the island to find this couple's son who ended up on the Jurassic Park island because he was para sailing and accidentally landed on the island.

That's Sam Nil's character, Yes, Sam Neil's character.

And then this Jurassic World movies came out with Chris Pratt and these all are bad.

Well, I say I shouldn't say there, I just I don't.

These kind of feel more like kitty action movies to me and aren't really about anything.

And when Chris Pratt was on Parks in Wreck, I really loved him, and I just feel like he's so bland in these Jurassic World movies.

And there's three of them.

Yeah, and uh there was those all came out.

Speaker 1

Yeah, there was a huge jump from so like, you know, two thousand and one was Jurassic Park three and then it you know, the first Chris Pratt iteration came out in twenty fifteen.

So are they so?

I guess my question to you is they're not really continuations of the original story at some point.

They're just kind of their own little world.

Speaker 2

The three Jeff Goldbloom, Laura Dern, and Sam Neil all returned for the last Jurassic World that came out a few years ago, Dominion Dominion.

Speaker 1

Those have colon's by the way, Jurassic World Colon Fallen Kingdom, Jurassic World Colon Dominion.

Oh my, I'm just saying that consistency is fucked up at this point.

Speaker 2

So it says Jurassic World Colon Rebirth on the IMDb, but on the Wikipedia there is no colon, so I was wrong about that.

But the Wikipedia there is no colon.

There is no colon.

But anyways, these are all just these are like kind of boring sequels, and I feel like it's sort of disappointing because we're kind of in the age of when people kind of figured out how to make sequels good.

I feel like in the last twenty to thirty years, because previously sequels were like always terrible.

But I just feel like Jurassic World and Jurassic Park has never really figured it out.

So that's where we're at.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're going to get into the new film for sure.

Maybe it's useful if we take a little step back and talk about the blow blockbuster, the summer blockbusters love too, Okay, love to if we talk about summer blockbusters in terms of like the financial component or the tone, right, because you can kind of think of it as two separate things.

Right, You can kind of see a summer blockbuster as a movie that is being made for mass markets.

It's usually very easy entrees into plot, huge stars, lots of action.

Do you have a famous summer blockbuster that you love, love.

Speaker 2

Love, so in the nineties when I was growing up, I would say Will Smith had a run of summer blockbusters that felt very big and important to me.

Men in Black Independence Day, and then I will throw Wild Wild West in there.

Sure, Sure, even though that movie is worse than those other two, I would say they all were like will Smith sort of owned summers for a stretch there.

And I have such a joyful affinity for will Smith movies of the nineties.

Speaker 1

Well, and that's exactly what they're made for.

Is they're made for people's affinities and and that, and they have their place.

And then there's also the idea of a movie that comes out in the summer.

And I think that that's the Berbenheimer example of a movie that made I mean it was obviously these are two movies that were obviously made to make as much money as possible.

Sure, but at least they were they were kind of quirky.

I mean, I would never expect that they would become blockbusters on their own, much less together.

Yeah, I mean, these are not Men in Black films.

I mean, no, Greta Gerwig mad making a summer blockbuster and you know, Christopher Nolan making a historical drama biography, right, So that's an interesting thing, and I I feel like it.

You know, Obviously a huge part of why movies become blockbusters, specifically in the summertime is because there's people are out of school, and the people are Yeah, it's hot, nobody wants to go outside.

They want to go to into a movie, and they're trying to watch as many things as possible because they're on vacation and this kind of stuff.

So you know, it's kind of, I don't know, it's kind of a nice place to be if you're a film in that way.

Speaker 2

Yeah, to come out in the summer, I think also I have such a connection to a type of movie that would then have a hit song on their soundtrack that was featured in the movie.

Will Smith certainly had this in a lot of his movies.

But also, like I remember when Armageddon came out and I don't want to miss a Thing by Aerosmith was all over the radio airwaves and it just felt like a cultural event that was bigger than the movie itself, you know, And that sort of my memory of summer blockbusters.

Speaker 1

So you're saying, bring back the original song.

Speaker 2

Yes, I think you know Top Gun had original songs attached to it Titanic.

Did I want people to bring back the original song?

And I actually think the Barbie movie kind of did do that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you need to have Bad Bunny doing a sweeping, romantic power ballad for your new super Bad movie, is what you're saying?

Speaker 2

Yes, Bad Bunny the star of Happy Gilmore two.

Yes, well, I actually.

Speaker 1

Like that idea too, because I was a huge soundtrack girly when I mean, I love those soundtracks, So you know, of course I'm with you on that, do you fool?

I guess?

Speaker 2

I want to ask you, Millie?

Do you feel like we still have what's like the current state of blockbusters right now?

Is it like it was twenty thirty years ago?

Or how does it compare to now?

Speaker 1

Well?

No, I mean because the viewing is so fractured now, you know, people are watching, They're not coming in mass to the movie theater as they were thirty years ago.

Speaker 2

Right.

Speaker 1

I still think that movies bring people to movie theaters.

Yes, I definitely think superhero movies.

Do I definitely think big movies like yeah, Jurassic Park, you know, Marvel things, horror horror is always brings people to movie theaters, and so those will persist.

But in terms of it being this extremely bankable, no question about it, We're making our money back no matter fucking what scenario.

I think that that's not the case as much as it was back then.

Speaker 2

I think you're right.

I think that it can still happen.

Like with the Barbenheimer effect, it was like achieved a heightened frenzy of people wanting to go to the theater, dressing up to go to the theater, and that can still happen.

But before it just happened regardless of the movies kind of being put out.

I feel like, where now it feels more like it has to be sort of a special case or like a movie people are really hyped about.

Speaker 1

It's just not a guarantee anymore, right, I mean, and the big I think the best example of that from the from the kind of maybe opposite end of this conversation is something like Top Gun Maverick, which I mean, when I saw the trailer fight, I was like, who the fuck is gonna see this?

Apparently everybody around the world Sawyone's dade.

Yeah, I certainly wouldn't have predicted that to happen, even even with it being a Tom Cruise top gun idea.

But then there are movies where you think, oh, that's absolutely gonna hit, it's no question that are like not making any money, and so now I feel like that's a weird variable, like you can't count on it anymore, whereas I think, especially in the nineties, you're like, we're gonna do another Men in Black, We're gonna make another five hundred million dollars.

Speaker 2

No problem, yeah, yeah, or you know, I think this would happen a lot too with blockbusters.

It was kind of like, like I was saying with Will Smith, it's like, oh, what's the what's the Will Smith movie this summer?

Yeah, you know, Or like in the eighties it was like, what's the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie this summer?

What's the Sylvester Stallone movie this summer.

There was a kind of these actors that you would be like, kind of blockbuster actors that would just like have a movie every summer and you're like, I'm gonna go see it, yeah, you know, And we don't have And I think Tom Cruise has had that in the past too, but we don't have actors that are like that carry that weight as much.

Now I would say, yeah.

Speaker 1

There are summer girls from the LFO song summer girls we don't have.

Speaker 2

I mean I do like girls that wear abercromy and fish.

I take her if I had one.

Speaker 1

Wish.

Well, this is interesting because yeah, that's a good question to ask, because ultimately you wonder whether or not this tradition is going to persist in another twenty years.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, you know, so we'll see interesting, interesting stuff.

All Right, I'm gonna give a brief synopsis on the movie Jurassic World Rebirth.

Speaker 1

And here we go.

Speaker 2

So this is, like we said, this is a sequel to the Chris Pratt Jurassic World movies.

And something you have to understand is at the end of those movies, dinosaurs have gotten out of their cages and they like live out in the world.

And now by the time this movie starts, a lot of them have died off, but there's still like a pocket of them that live around the equator for some bullshit reason.

So this movie is about a pharmaceutical company called Engen.

They hire Zora Bennett played by Scarlett Johansson, who is a covert operation expert whatever that is.

And they also hire doctor Henry Loomis played by Jonathan Bailey in some very fun Little Glasses.

He's a paleontologist and they are to go to the Equator to extract some bio material from the three largest dinosaurs to create a new heart medicine.

And then they go with Duncan Kincaid, who is like Scarlett Johanson's pal played by Marsha Ali.

And yeah, they go down there and they go get that bio material and some people get eaten by dinosaurs along the way.

Speaker 1

That was an amazing.

Speaker 2

There's also a family that gets kind of tied up, but I can't even remember them.

Speaker 1

Oh it's I don't know where they're from.

They seem to be from the Caribbean.

I don't know if they're from I don't know if they're from the Caribbean, if they're from Mexico or what.

I know.

They're people of color.

This is one thing that I will say that I appreciated about this Jurassic Park film is that most of the people of color did not die in this movie.

Some did, some we won't tell you who not.

Most, by the way spoils learn from the rest of this episode.

If you have.

Speaker 2

Spoiler, big spoil.

We're going to spoil this movie.

I'm sorry, we just are.

Speaker 1

Something that I feel is possibly inherent to this franchise is the children in peril scenario.

Speaker 2

Huh.

Speaker 1

There always seems to be children in peril in the Jurassic Park multiverse.

Speaker 2

And as a father, as a girl dad, I wouldn't let her near a dinosaur.

Speaker 1

Okay, this is another component to this specific film that we gotta talk about.

Now.

You got me chomping at the bit.

Okay, let me go back and say this before we move on to this other thing.

But I just tease you with this family is sensibly a single father or the father.

The mother's not on the trip with them, but it's a father and his two daughters.

One's a teenager who's included her boyfriend on the trip, who is like bad Bunny.

He's like a bad Bunny esque looking stoner boyfriend, and this little girl who's probably like, I don't know, eight or nine or something.

They're on a sailboat trip, and of course they're in the middle of the ocean somewhere, and all of a sudden, he's dinosaurs are kicking up and they capsize the boat and then they get rescued by the Mahershaw Ali boat.

Yes, which is how they're even in this fan bang go to the beginning, so they're basically innocent bystanders that got roped into this ridiculous Henry Loomis scenario.

Yes, So there's kind of two stories happening at the same time in this weird way.

And I kept thinking to myself, I think I care about the family more than anything else.

Speaker 2

I mean, you're supposed to, yes, you're supposed to be.

Like that's like tugs at the heartstrings because the other side of the story, with the Scarlett Johansson marsha A Lie and Jonathan Bailey's Little Glassy, they barely get any character development at all.

Scarlett Johansson recently suffered some loss and you see her getting teary at some but it's like so not discussed and there's not really any emotional stakes with those people at all.

Speaker 1

So they just.

Speaker 2

Crammed this family storyline in there to kind of like give it some heart.

But I don't know that was not working for me.

Speaker 1

What was it working for you?

The family?

Speaker 2

The family I didn't care.

Speaker 1

I beg to differ.

I feel this is why I'm not a producer in Hollywood is because if it were up to me, I would scrap all of the people on the Scarlett Johansson's side only focus on the family.

And then it becomes this like Ruben Usland movie race.

Sure, I see, it's like another trigle of sadness if you will.

Yeah, but with some dinosaurs, with dinosaur trigle of sadness with dinasa.

That's my elevator pitch.

Who wants to get pretty much good?

That's pretty good.

Uh So let's move on to this other thing I want to talk about.

Yes, interrupt, no, no, no, I love an interruption, especially on this podcast.

And when we're talking about Jurassic Park.

Here's the thing.

Okay, this movie, very early on presupposes this idea I guess that the world has become bored of dinosaurs.

Yes, and they're like, oh, the like people of the world are so bloh about the idea that dinosaurs love among us and are around in some capacity.

And we got to get these people reinterested in dinosaurs.

So let's create mutant dinosaurs so that they're like, whoas crazy?

Like this?

It's like a dinosaur that I used to like back in the day except a little weird and now I love them again.

It was this weird.

I guess it was like a fact of the film that propelled the film, which is that generally really like in this universe, we have hung out with dinosaurs so much on the rags that now were bored of them.

Yeah, And I just kept thinking that is absolutely never gonna happen, Like, who would be bored of if you live amongst a dinosaur?

You're telling me that, You're like, oh, this fucker.

Speaker 2

It's like this movie it does suffer from kind of like the dinosaur industrial complex, where it's like, well, how many like bigger dinosaurs can make?

You know, It's like, dinosaurs are fine just as they are.

This is something that was brought up in the previous Jurassic World movies.

This is a concept that was introduced in the first Jurassic World with Chris Pratt.

There are like mutant dinosaurs that they make to like heighten the frightening nature of dinosaurs.

But I'm like, like, I one hundred percent agree with you that it's like dinosaurs are fine.

They're scary and interesting.

We're not going to get bored with them.

Speaker 1

You know, if you were just like if you were in the Jurassic World universe, where we've become so integrated with life with dinosaurs.

Let's just say that, say like a dinosaur was producing this episode right now.

Yeah, sure, there would never be a moment in my brain where I thought I would not think that that was an incredible fact, Like I'd be like, a fucking stegosaurus produces our podcast, or a brontosaurus is my coworker or my neighbors.

This is and this is why it goes down this rabbit hole of like, oh well, we have to create these musics.

Speaker 2

Wait, I have one more picture that a pterodactyl is using pro tools, So sorry, continue from your.

Speaker 1

Film school days?

Is your buddy from your film school days.

I the idea that people got sick to death of dinosaurs and then they were like, well, let's juice them.

We gotta we gotta juice the you gotta make them better, and then everything goes rogue is probably one of the stupidest ideas to me, and I realized that this movie wouldn't exist if that weren't the fact.

But I maybe I shouldn't have existed.

I don't know.

It just seems so crazy to me, I feel like there is You bring up a good point, though, there is so much like interesting concepts to mine from people that brought back dinosaurs.

Speaker 2

Yeah, there's just more to do with that.

We don't have to be like the dinosaurs need to be bigger, it needs to have more heads or whatever.

Like it's it's just such a weird storytelling thing to do well.

Speaker 1

And like, Okay, spoiler alert for those who need it.

The baddie, the final boss, the baddie of this film is the d Rex.

Speaker 2

Did the d Rex exist in the Chris Pratt films, by the way, I don't think So.

Speaker 1

Okay, let me talk about a d Rex.

First of all, the name d Rex, I mean, are you kidding Jesus?

That's a magic Mike Stripper name.

Oh my god, the d e Rex.

I this fucker is the most mutated out of all of them.

And so imagine this is what a d Rex looks like a t rex, a Trenosaurus rex, except a smooth head, sort of like the Zeno morph from Alien.

It's a good description.

And then has two sets of arms.

Okay, so it as the little t rex arms, which we've all joked about them being kind of inefficient.

I'm assuming if you're a palaeontologist you will disagree with me.

But you know, we all think, oh, tiny arms, what can this monster do with tiny arms?

But it also has big arms?

And I just kept thinking, this is insane, that this that this d rex has two sets of arms, little and big.

And who was the scientists that decided why not give them both things?

Yeah?

Yeah, what does the little ones do?

The little ones are close up stuff, and then the long ones are for the other thing.

I don't know.

Speaker 2

The little arms are for like eating, like tiny cookies and biscuits, and then the big arms are for like manual labor, hammering stuff.

Speaker 1

For two dinosaurs in this entire film.

Speaker 2

Well, I think I know one of them.

Speaker 1

I think I do too, right, little Dolores, the little jar jar of the film.

Yeah, was Dolores around for anything?

I keep asking you about this.

Speaker 2

I've never seen I've seen all of them, so I can tell you, No, the little the little baby, Yeah, where'd she go?

Speaker 1

Okay, first of all, I feel like Dolores needed more screen time, just throwing it out there.

Well, and then spoiler alert, but you know, at the end of the movie, she escapes with the girl that she you know, because as Baylets gets there is the little girl is the one that connects with Dolores.

And it was a lot of snack placement, product placement involved with their bonding.

Yes, so Dolores is like this tiny little dinosaur that fits in her backpack and then at the end of the movie their only escapeboat together.

And then I just kept I just imagine like this little girl taking this baby dinosaur with her and if that, I just imagine those people on TikTok that basically taken wild animals and they create these insane videos with that fucking tender song that they always play on TikTok where it's like heart beat fest, trying to be brave, trying to be this, and it's like this, you know, these people found like a wild fucking bore or something, and they're like trying to they're trying to like trade it to be like a baby that drinks from a bottle, and like they're they're making this tender hearted video and that everybody in the conference is like, are you fucking insane?

You're not supposed to domesticate a wild boar or whatever.

I just imagine this is what this little girl was gonna do it's gonna make this dinosaur or TikTok heads, God almighty, the other dinosaurs.

And I've alluded to this earlier, is there was a part of this movie.

God, I feel so embarrassed about to tell you this.

Speaker 2

Please I there was a.

Speaker 1

Part of the film where they were because they basically have to extract juice or blood or whatever from three sets of dinosaurs biomaterial biomaterial one of them.

The second one was supposed to be sort of this like I don't know, it felt like this kind of plant eating gentle bronosaurs with this like long whiptail.

Yeah.

And there was this moment where they basically encountered this dinosaur and it was the dinosaur was in love with this other dinosaur.

Speaker 3

Yes, I teared up, Casey, I swear, God, I think it's fair metopause.

Speaker 1

Why did I tear up?

Watching these dinosaurs in love?

Like they were like tenderly They had their like little mechs wrapped.

Speaker 2

Around each other, and that's how they got the bio material.

They took advantage of their love because they were distracted.

Speaker 1

They shot one in the ass while it was having a fucking tender snuggle.

With their beloved.

Speaker 2

I listen mellly, I'm not I would never yuck your yum.

Sometimes being in a movie theater is like such an emotional experience that it can't help.

But I get teary eyed during trailers sometimes of movies I've never seen, and like it's a highly emotional place.

So I understand, you're safe here.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

I very much appreciate that I was alone.

When I was, I was alone in the movie theater with other twelve year olds, but I I don't know.

It just tugged my heartstrings.

I tear it up.

But that that's the other time that I was.

But for the most part, yes, I didn't connect with any of these others, any of the other dinosaurs.

I felt nothing for.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean, this movie I feel like has had zero cultural impact.

I feel like people never really talked about it online or had any reaction to it.

I think it made like seven hundred and fifty million dollars, so I think it did okay, But like.

Speaker 1

I don't know.

Speaker 2

Here's what I have.

I have a question, what's your pitch for the next Jurassic World movie.

Speaker 1

Well, I have a side pitch, A side quest pitch.

First cool.

I would love to see Scarlett Johansson joined the Expendables.

I think she would should do great.

She's she's a mercenary in this film, by the way.

Yeah, yeah, slightly believable At times, I could see it, but I was just thinking, well, shit, they need a woman in the Expendables pretty badly like her.

Speaker 2

They don't have any women in there.

Speaker 1

I don't think so.

It's pretty macho.

But I also think that star power is her well, I mean yes, I think she would bring a lot of that to the table.

I don't know if there's ever been right in I've never seen an expendable you have speaking of.

I mean you were talking about people like Arnold.

I mean they're fun, they're fun of shit, I'm sure, but I would say, make one, make her an expendable.

I don't think she's too young to be honest.

You could use some ladies in there, and then she can wear her little tight tank tops for all you boys.

Speaker 2

For all you boas.

Speaker 1

So I feel like that's my side pitch.

Now you're asking me what is the next Jurassic Park?

Speaker 2

Yeah, what would you What would your idea be for the next Jurassic Park?

Speaker 1

I say the next Jurassic Park is doctor Henry Loomis being Jonathan Bailey being very emotional about dinosaurs.

Okay, I feel like we could maybe pitch it as I don't know, some sort of tender love story of him falling in love with his job of being a museum researcher.

I see he cried, did you know?

Did you sestion it?

He cried when he saw the dinosaur eggs?

Was it when he saw the eggs?

Speaker 2

He was charming.

You have to admit he was kind of fun to watch on the screen.

Speaker 1

Who was that?

By the way, I don't even know who that actor is.

Speaker 2

Jonathan He's a theater guy.

I believe he was in Wicked.

He was in Bridgerton and Wicked.

Yeah, Bridgerton and Wicked, So that's.

Speaker 1

Kind of I don't know.

I don't know anything about him.

Of course, they were sort of teasing at the idea that him and Scarlett character were kind of connecting, although yes I didn't I didn't get that didn't play for me, and I actually thought he was not in the women if Yeah, he is gay in real life?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Well, and like then I was like, well, she can't get with this guy.

He's gonna slow her down and she needs to be the expendables that maybe that's right, make money for herself parachuting out of airplanes.

Now the other guy, here's the thing, Hersila.

No, no oh, I'm talking about the evil capital.

Speaker 2

He works for engine, the pharmaceutical, the farmer bro, the farmer bro.

Speaker 1

I am not joking when I say this, Dude, I did not realize that that was not Orlando Bloom until like five minutes before the movie ended.

Speaker 2

Mmmm.

Speaker 1

That he is, of course played.

Speaker 2

It's the character of Martin Krebs, played by the British actor Rupert Friend, who I do really like.

He was in the movie Death of Stalin.

Have you ever saw that movie?

So he is good, but he does look like should I.

Speaker 1

Know more British actors?

I feel like I don't know any of That's so sad, you know, the British.

Speaker 2

They they are way over represented in our movies.

They're taking our jobs and they're doing perfect American accents and wow, No, I don't think you need to know anymore.

Speaker 1

Okay, Well, he dies, His character died with no love loss, as all farmer bros should.

So I don't know anything else to say about Jurassic Park rebirth.

Speaker 2

I'm going to do my pitch for the next Drassic Park.

I think number one, there should be some guy living on the island, like some hermit.

Oh sure, living among the dinosaurs.

Okay, that's one one.

Idea.

Number two, I think it should be like a bunch of TikTok bros Are going you know how there was like those Urban Explorer YouTube TikTok pages.

This would be like the same thing where they're going to the island to like check out the dinosaurs and a bunch of them get eaten.

Speaker 1

So that's my pitch.

So you want to see a guy's voice and voiceoverc come with me as I'm here in Jurassic Park.

Exactly.

Look at this cool dinosaur egg crunchy body exactly.

See this is good, mill this is good.

That's good.

That's a good idea.

That's why.

Speaker 2

Castor and not a No, there's nothing more to be said about this or Blockbusters.

I think we've kind of exhausted it.

I'm exhausted, so I think it'd probably be best to move on.

Speaker 1

We can do that.

Speaker 2

Our final segment for today is movie theater etiquette.

Mainly, this is something I wanted to talk to you about because I have some questions.

You know, I am kind of particular when it comes to movie theater etiquette.

I have ideas about how things should go down in there.

But I was just curious about you, you know me.

Speaker 1

You know, you're not.

Speaker 2

Supposed to talk in the movie theater, but people do.

Are you a suture?

And how do you handle talking if there's like someone behind you talking throughout the whole movie?

Speaker 1

Oh god, this is really hard for me because I hate conflict.

Yeah, although I do.

I mean, there have been times, I think in the past where I just have had to say something because something is just so ridiculous.

I think that's my my fear.

Well, my fear is being killed by someone over an altercation in public that has no, no, nothing to do with your life.

I'm always afraid to incite like a really violent reaction from someone.

Speaker 2

It is hard because sometimes even if you're like, hey, do you think you could be quiet, or like if you slightly recommenced, sometimes people go insane.

Well, and that is the scary part.

That's the scary part.

Speaker 1

And like I think I told the story about when I once saw Lisa Fraanketstein with my friends and one of them, these girls were teenage girls, were behind us and they were throwing things and people were getting crazy, like in the audience, like they were turning around being like, oh my god, who's throwing popcorn?

And somebody finally said, hey, stop talking, and one of the girls screamed, fuck you bitch.

That was like, oh, okay, wow, I'm scared, Like I'm officially scared just to be a shusher, but.

Speaker 2

There because that can happen.

Oh my god, you could get a fuck you bitch right thrown right at.

Speaker 1

You and then what do you do?

Oh?

I know, and you know then I'm that I'm sitting there thinking about it all day long, like this teenager.

Oh I would leave, uh huh.

But there have been times, maybe not in a movie theater necessarily, but there have been times in life where you just, I don't know, you just have to say something because it's the right thing to do.

So I think it has to be an extremely elevated case for me to shush.

I know people who shush with no hesitation whatsoever.

Maybe I might have done a podcast with one of those people.

Oh it's kind of I like it.

Oh, Dan Yelle would tell anybody it like.

She is amazing in that regard, and as a weak.

Speaker 2

Person like that, we need her.

Speaker 1

We need need her to protect us, so.

Speaker 2

Protect us from the teenage girls out there.

Speaker 1

Do you like it.

Speaker 2

When because it sometimes it happens in a theater.

Also, I will say, I'm in agreeing with you.

I shush very sparingly.

I want to do it more, but I'm scared.

Speaker 1

That's the answer.

Speaker 2

Uh.

Do you like it when an audience member makes a MST three K style joke during a movie?

Have you ever been one of those movies where there's someone making kind of jokes at the screen.

Speaker 1

I'm shaking my head or like, at the minute you started talking and I knew it was going in this direction, my head starts shaking.

No, I hate improv shit like that is so.

And there was a time I was hosting a movie screening here in Atlanta, many many years ago.

I can't remember the movie.

It was something like it wasn't the Room, but it was something.

I think it was like an Andy Sedaris movie or something like Hard Ticket to Hawaii or something like that.

And I watched a little bit of it and could hear somebody just riff it like doing their whole improv routine.

I wanted to go up to them and scream in their face, fuck you bitch.

Basically, I was so upset by it because it just felt like their stage, like they just kind of said, well, I don't care if anybody else wants to actually see this movie.

I'm gonna like provide the comedy of it.

And I just hate that.

I hate that me too.

In public.

Hell no, it's crazy.

You could do it in your home with your buddies, but not in a theater.

Speaker 3

I know.

Speaker 2

I was in a movie theater.

I was seeing a Mission Impossible movie.

And you know how I hold those movies in such high regards, so this is a special experience.

And there was like a twelve year old boy.

He was drinking a big old icy and eat a big thing of milk duds, and he was riffing away making jokes and I was like, oh my god, this kid is driving me nuts.

And cause he got a big laugh.

I don't remember what he said, but he got a big laugh with a comment and that really emboldened him.

Oh, of course it does.

And I could feel him charging up for a big one.

And there was some he was waiting for something I could tell and I don't even exactly remember what happened on screen, but like let's say Tom Cruise got like crashed a motorcycle or whatever, and Tom Cruise crashes the motorcycle and the kid go, he's He tried to say, that's gotta hurt, but I was ready for him, and so he went.

I shushed him right in the middle of it, so it came out like this.

He was like, that's gotta hurt.

So I like deflated him because I shushed him mid riff and he didn't talk for the rest because I was sitting right next to him, and I like, you know, but this is me being brave against a twelve year old boy.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

Yeah, there's I'm prepared to take that kid on, But like if it was a full grown adult, I don't know if I would have been as ready.

Speaker 1

You know, there's gonna be a TikTok of you tomorrow in slow motion of you shushing a kid, and then that song is gonna be trying to be prayed try Oh my god, you killed that kid.

He's never gotta comedy, he's never gonna he's gonna think about this for the rest of his fucking life.

Speaker 2

Well, I hope he does.

I hope he does, because he was really being annoying.

Wow, what now?

Speaker 1

What to you?

Speaker 2

Are you not allowed to eat in the movie theater?

And what are you allowed to eat in the movie theater?

Speaker 1

Listen?

This is gonna be an unpopular opinion.

Perhaps I think you can eat whatever the fuck you want to eat.

Speaker 2

Oh, I disagree.

Speaker 1

I think you could eat Thanksgiving dinner in there if you want.

Speaker 2

I don't want a stinky I don't want to smell your Chipotle burrito.

Speaker 1

Oh I don't care.

This is the thing.

Movie theater food is so terrible and so expensive that to me, it's a class uprising to bring delicious food from your home or wherever into you want.

Speaker 2

People bringing in chicken Kiev and eating it in the movie theater.

This is outrageous.

I don't think you should.

I think hot dog is like the smelliest food.

I think you should be able to eat in the theater.

Speaker 1

I just don't.

Speaker 2

I don't like because I've been in the theater where I'm like, someone brought in something and it's stink.

I just don't like it.

It's like being on an airplane.

Speaker 1

Sure, I mean there's another place where you're like, I'm not I'm not against bringing in food, but I just there's certain type.

Speaker 2

I just feel like it needs to be like candy pop something that doesn't that isn' like a bit like a turkey dinner.

Speaker 1

Like listen.

I feel as though leaving the house is just basically being an opener market for anything to happen at this point, And to me, I'm like, I will allow for the stinky limburger, cheese and crackers, whatever you got.

I'm fine with it.

It's like it has to happen.

We're not eating these goddamn flat bread margarita shits that they put in a microwave.

They're not good.

The upscale food that they have a like Chains or whatever, where it's like nachos or flatbread pizzas or anything are so terrible that I'm like, no, like, bring in Chipotle, bring in whatever you got.

As long as you can nourish yourself, I'm fine with it.

Speaker 2

Okay, Okay, have you ever been in a movie theater where the police came in and took somebody out.

Speaker 1

Who absolutely happened?

Christmas Day twenty twenty four, Nos Faratu, Melbourne, Florida.

Speaker 2

Did you tell this on the pod?

Speaker 1

Sure as fuck did.

I said that the police came in because they were looking for somebody.

They stopped the movie.

They stopped the movie.

Oh, they stopped nos Faratu, and the theater manager and a police officer came in and were like looking at people's faces.

It was insane.

Speaker 2

Whoa, It's like a movie.

Speaker 1

It lasted probably about five five to seven minutes, but it was insane.

Speaker 2

I was like, Okay, did ever talk about my screening of the movie Mother, Darren Aronovski's Mother.

Speaker 1

No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2

So we saw this at the I can't remember the name of the movie theater it was.

It's like right next to the Staples Center in downtown LA, which is like a cuckoo kind.

Speaker 1

Of okay, okay movie theater.

Speaker 2

We were like the only people in there seeing Mother exclamation Point, which is an insane movie.

Yes, And like fifteen minutes into it, this couple comes in and I'm like, ooh, I can really smell alcohol.

They are drunk, and they sit directly behind us, and the guy leans forward like and whispers in my ear.

He's like, hey, can you move over a couple seats and I'm like, no one is in here, and I smells like stinky breath and I'm like and I said, I was like pissed off because I was like, why don't you move?

Like there's no one in here?

And then I go no.

Two seconds later, a bare foot comes and rests on my seat and is touching my head.

It's like right next to my head, and I'm like, ah, And so that did get me to move far away from this man.

But I would say about twenty minutes later the police came in and took them out.

Oh, and I had not reported them, so like, obviously they were doing hijinks outside the field.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'm sure that that wasn't the first or last stop.

Really hear wow, would oh if a barefoot came into my face from Oh my god, Casey.

Speaker 2

Gives me chills still.

It also sort of felt like the vibe of the movie because the movie is so outrageously insane.

I felt, I don't know, it was a memorable experience.

Okay, here's the last question I have for you.

Okay, movie etiquette.

Okay, when is the last, the absolute last moment you're allowed to use your phone?

Speaker 1

Okay, this is an interesting one.

Because I feel like it is for me.

It was based on the city.

I will say, La, they don't want once the trailers begin, you cannot touch.

Speaker 2

Your phone in La.

In La, you know that's interesting.

You're one hundred percent right.

And I noticed a shift when I moved back to Minneapogolies.

I was like, ooh, Also, the lights stay on during the trailers at all my theaters here.

Speaker 1

Me too, Me too.

I gotta tell you, I think the La film etiquette is a different animal.

I just things it's based on.

It's the center of movies.

Everybody is super respectful, and their culture of seeing movies is just at a high level, and they won't let you get away with shit.

I feel like Austin is probably the only other town where that's true.

Maybe New York, but it's it really has to be.

You have to be shamed into acting that way.

I gotta say it.

You've got to be shamed in doing it.

Atlanta is not that.

Atlanta is full on.

I'm going to film this movie as it's playing.

There's no rules just right here, Like it's it's absolutely rules.

Oh, it's it's like god smackingly bad here.

And I, like I said, I think that you have to be you basically have to organize everybody to be a shusher and a complainer, and you have to put trailers in front of the movies that feature prominent celebrities telling you that you will die if you take your phone out, like they do at Draft House.

It's it's a it's a problem.

If so, there's the reality, which is that I feel like people are using their phones wherever in in my life at this point, but in my preference, I feel like trail like once, maybe once Maria Mnunos is gone.

Speaker 2

Once she says bye bye.

Speaker 1

When she's like, my bye, go and listen to my wellness podcast, why would you say that?

Sorry?

Speaker 2

Maria Manunos did like a genie trap you in the movie theater pre screening things.

It's like I haven't seen her anywhere else, and all of a sudden she's popping up in this weird pre movie entertainment.

It's very odd.

Speaker 1

I I think once she tells you about the wellness podcast, you are you got to turn your phone off.

I feel trailers are important to people, Okay, cer not filler before the movie.

I think people love seeing trailers and so respect that shit and don't.

Speaker 2

I think the movie industry also is to blame for this, or the movie theater industry, because now you know, Ria Minunos is bouncing all over the screen, there's that bullshit.

There's commercials, and then there are like these like fake trailers, which are like commercials for movies, but they're not the trailers.

Yes, you know, it's like this weird in between and then it's like and then it's the trailers.

But as a viewer, it gets kind of gobbled up, so I can there doesn't feel like there's a a delineation mark for people to be like, Okay, now we're entering a sacred space, which I think the trailers is a sacred space, but I do too.

Speaker 1

And the craziest part about when I saw Jurassic I said, just Jurassic this one that we just talked about rebirth.

I don't know if this was your experience, but they did the whole trailer run, then they did the AMC branded stuff pre roll, they did Nicole Kimmen, you know, the whole song hands, and then they played the new trailer for their new Christopher Nolan movie.

Yeah, okay, I think that was weird because I was like oh, I've already set up for the movie to start because I saw Nicole Kimmen's pants suit.

So now they're tucking into the Christopher Nolan trailer.

So what ended up happening is someone in front of me pulled out their phone and started taking pictures of the Christopher Nolan trailer and then texting them to their friend, and I'm just like, fuck this are you kidding?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

See that that shows that like there's like a now a new section where it's like, well, this is the real trailer section, like the Christopher Nolan movie.

It's like the trailer section has gotten so disrespected that now we have to like create this new category for like more elevated movies like.

Speaker 1

Christopher Nolan movies.

Speaker 2

You know.

So it's just it's sickening.

It's sickening, well at any And you know, I don't like talking during trailers either.

I like that pisces me off almost more than the phones during the trailers, is when people are having full on conversations during the trailers.

Speaker 1

I agree.

I agree.

I mean, I'm not saying you can't laugh if you see a funny trailer, but you also can have a convers I feel like that is the line of demarcation trailers is movie time.

Yeah, if you need to, like do your improv routine, do it during Maria Maronunos.

Speaker 2

Yes, please, Well mainly maybe we'll bring up more movie theater etiquette in the future.

I have many more thoughts, so I'm glad we were able to discuss this a little bit today.

Speaker 1

I did too.

This was great.

Also, if you have any Filmdican rules, you should em right.

Speaker 2

Yes, please, I want to hear your rules because it's important.

This is important.

Moving on employees picks film recommendations based on the theme of the discussion today, Millie, do you have a employees picks for us today?

Speaker 1

I was just thinking about this.

I don't know, this is going to possibly be inflammatory.

I don't know.

I'm gonna recoit right now.

I'm currently I'm looking.

I just googled list of films featuring dinosaurs.

Sure, because I was like, do I want to recommend another Jurassic Park movie?

Speaker 3

No?

Speaker 1

Do I need to recommend another Steven Spielberg movie No?

Or Chris Pratt movie absolutely not, or anyone I don't know, Like, you know, I was like, what about another dinosaur movie that I enjoy?

And I enjoy quite a few.

However, I feel like my most favorites, and this is the inflammatory part, is that I'm not even sure if this is an actual dinosaur, if it would be classified as a dinosaur.

Really, I don't know.

I'm a huge fan of the Godzilla movies, the old ones.

Hell, yeah, so they look like dinosaurs.

I think they're classified as monsters.

I mean, like I said, I don't know some Godzilla.

There's a lot of hardcore Godzilla fans.

Maybe they're gonna tell me.

Speaker 2

I think they would be classified as kaiju.

Speaker 1

Okay, and what is that?

Speaker 2

It's like a monster, big strange beast monster.

Speaker 1

They are a They come from eggs from a remote islands, so it feels like, okay, well maybe that's sort of close enough to a dinosaur.

Somebody is gonna call, gonna tell me what a what Godzilla actually is for the purposes of this film recommendation.

The only reason why I'm bringing up because I really wants you to see Son of Godzilla from nineteen sixty seven, and it's because Godzilla's sun is amazing, blows fucking dolor us out of the water.

If you want to get really serious, He's so cute.

He's a little little chunky fucker so funny looking and cute and aw, I am obsessed.

Speaker 2

He kind of looks like my daughters, so cute.

Speaker 1

What.

I love that for you.

And also I just love baby versions of like famous monsters.

I love you know, you know whatever, the baby versions of everybody, like Muppet babies was great for a reason, folks.

So anyway, Son of Godzilla nineteen sixty seven.

I think it's the eighth movie in the original Godzilla franchise.

It is, Yes, it is so freaking funny and cute.

So anyway, you can come to battle with me if you want it.

Dear moves and exactly what media dot com of whether or not I should be recommending this movie as part of this episode, but I'm just doing it, so I think it's great.

Thank you.

What about yours?

Speaker 2

I'm not gonna okay, so we didn't get into this for one second, but Garrett, But Jurassic World Rebirth is directed by a guy named Gareth Edwards.

Now, this guy has directed a few movies about big monsters.

He directed a Godzilla movie in twenty fourteen, which I thought was fine, But his first movie he ever directed, and he was the cinematographer, editor, visual effects artist on it.

He did everything.

Basically.

It's called Monsters from twenty ten.

Okay, have you seen this movie?

Speaker 1

I have not.

Speaker 2

It is really good.

It is really good.

It stars Scoot McNairy and Whitney abel and it takes place in Mexico.

And basically there are these giant, tentacled monsters that appear after a NASA probe crashes in Mexico.

Speaker 1

And it's really.

Speaker 2

Kind of slow and interesting and methodical, and the creatures look really good.

And Scoot McNairy and Whitney Abele are kind of these drifters through Mexico and I think he's a Yeah, he's a photojournalist and he is tasked with escorting his employer's daughter back to the United States by crossing through Mexico's infected one where the creatures reside.

And it's a really good movie.

I really loved it and highly recommend it so well.

Speaker 1

Great Scoot McNary.

Fans of Scoot here, you're a fan of Scoot, aren't you?

Did we talk about him?

Speaker 2

I haven't talked about him, but I like scooming shit.

Speaker 1

Maybe I'm forgetting everything I've had my brains apped at Jurassic Park.

Speaker 2

I kind of feel I feel like there was a little bit of an energy that you were mad at me for making you see this movie.

Speaker 1

Because no, I mean, listen, I am here for love of the game.

Like I said, I'll see like any movie.

Speaker 2

And I just want to say I'm sorry.

Speaker 1

I will pay you back.

I'm sure if I have not already, I will.

But I actually it's fun to watch these movies because then we can have this very buoyant, fun convo about the ridiculousness of these types of movies in a way, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2

Yeah, And I love going to like I love going to the AMC theater to see a big movie.

You know.

That's the joy of the summer blockbuster.

It really is a ride.

And so I enjoyed my experience.

I do too.

Speaker 1

I mean, I'm never gonna be mad to see something like this.

I mean, you know, despite the fact that it was probably too long and had a lot of things that probably didn't make much sense, for the most part, it was fun to be able to just talk about it with you.

So don't apologize.

Speaker 2

Bruh, bruh.

Well, Millie, we did it.

Speaker 1

We did it.

Speaker 2

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Millie, Ooh, I'm excited.

Speaker 1

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But if it's gonna feel like you are gonna go.

Speaker 2

Off, cis, I might go off.

Okay, And I mean we're talking about he's in my I would say, like my top three favorite directors of all time.

Really, yeah, I love him.

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We're doing a lot of new movies recently.

Speaker 2

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This one's interesting because it's streaming on the Criterion channel.

And I think that's the only place you can watch it right now.

Speaker 1

Listen, I'm fine with it.

It's just the next week we're gonna have to do a freakin' Harold Lloyd.

I'm kidding.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

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I don't even remember when that came out.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

Brothers.

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