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Speaker 1

Are you leaving?

Speaker 2

I you wanna way back home?

Speaker 1

Either way, we want to be there.

Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us time and a terminol e gaggi A.

Speaker 2

We want to send you off in style.

Speaker 1

We wanna welcome you back home.

Tell us all about it.

We scared her?

Was it fine?

Mal porn?

Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Do your need do you ride?

Speaker 2

Ride with Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride?

Kamma, this is Chris Fairbanks.

Speaker 1

Dot dot dot.

This is Karen Kilgarriff.

Exclamation point.

Speaker 2

That's how I talk now fun.

I'm so used to dictating.

It does happen actually early morning if someone calls, I might say kama.

Speaker 1

Out loud to them.

Because you're so used to dictating your text.

Speaker 2

I probably a lot of people do it.

This might be, I might be, this might be very relatable.

Speaker 1

I think it is.

Speaker 2

I think it is as well.

Speaker 1

You know why, because my dad speaks to all of his texts aloud.

But I don't know he's doing it, so I'll answer him, and then he gets mad because then I appear on the text and he has to start over.

But he doesn't warn me that that's what he's doing.

So all of a sudden he'll go, uh, hey, Woody, uh, what time do you want me over for dinner tomorrow night?

And I'm like, what, Dad, And then he's like, oh god, I'm text just like, just give me a hold.

Speaker 2

Oh he's dictating to someone else.

Speaker 1

All of a sudden, in silence, out of the blue, he's talking to Woody, and I'm like, what's going on, Dad?

And then he's like, goddamn it.

Speaker 2

A part of me got excited because I thought your dad's nickname for you was a woody, which bone is said, toy story I am here for.

Speaker 1

Do you know that my nickname is sissy and my family that's what everybody in my family.

Speaker 2

Calls really, yeah, what's the origin of that.

Speaker 1

It's that my sister couldn't say sister or and she couldn't pronounce my name when she was little, so she'd say sissy.

They everyone called her sissy so she could say it too.

Speaker 2

Did it always make you think of Sissy's basic?

Speaker 1

Now most of the cousins called me siss so and it's so weird because then like when I started doing stand up and like, oh to San Francisco, moved to La of course, no one not only did no one call me that, but no one knew it, and I kind of forgot it until some I'm sure it was on a podcast or at a party in a conversation and someone's like, did you have a family nickname?

And I'm like no, And then I was like, oh, wait, yes I do.

It's literally what to this day, everyone in my family calls me yeah, it's it.

Speaker 2

Gets a little confusing to outside or is outside the family right when a cousin is calling you sis sis?

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, that's that doesn't track.

Speaker 2

No.

Speaker 1

But I'm not lying.

Speaker 2

Unless there's banjos in the background, get it, I do.

How was your What's been going on?

Speaker 1

Well?

I went to Palm Springs for the weekend to get away because I like the desert but not super hot, so it's like right before it gets summertime crazy hot.

So I just went there for like a relaxing weekend out of town with a friend of the podcast, Zach Noy Towers Fun and so we just like walked around and ate and shopped and fucked around whatever didn't really do anything at all.

We went to the hotel pool one day, which I've never kind of been in that culture.

I know you love it and you always go to those pool parties.

Speaker 2

In Las Vegas still to this day.

Speaker 1

The uh there's one called like Prescription or something.

It's like, anyway, we did that one day.

That was very funny.

Or it's like a very small pool and like sixty people in it drinking, which I don't.

It was hilarious.

I was just like, this is a world that I don't know, so yeah, very fun But then when we went to leave, I have this new I'm driving this hyunday and how do I make us not super boring this?

I can charge this Hunday at my house using the old Tesla charger I had.

They made it so you can use it.

So I assumed I'd be able to use the Tesla chargers out in the world, but you can't, and they really they make it so you can't.

Basically, so you like, even though I had the correct shape charger, charger adapter or whatever, they won't let you.

It's like, we don't recognize this vehicle on your account.

Speaker 2

Now you have to drive around till you find a Hondai specific charging station.

Speaker 1

Yes, well, there's just it's almost like Android and Apple, so it's like Tesla and then everything else.

So everything else works because I have adapters for anything else, but the other ones like Tesla.

The longest I've ever waited at a Tesla chargers twenty or twenty five minutes, like on my drive up north.

So I just assumed it would all they would all be fast like that, right.

So we found one that was the Android version in a parking structure, so we plugged it in and we went to lunch for an hour or whatever.

Came back and my car said it had eleven hours of charging left to get home.

What So then we're like, oh fuck, And then we're like we basically we were trying every charger in town to try to charge up enough to get back to La, and we had to leave Palm Springs and go to the Cabazon outlets, and then there I tried Tesla chargers, which it didn't work.

That's why I really realized, Oh, it doesn't matter if you have an account whatever.

It was just this thing where it took us five hours to leave Palm spring.

Speaker 2

That's what my fear is and when I started thinking about getting an electric car was about around the time we thought the world was ending in a different way than it is now.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I like, if shit goes down and all of our systems are crumbling, if you have an electric car that can't be charged, that would make me so scared.

Yeah.

Speaker 1

But then if you had a gas powered car, you could also probably not get gas because it would turn into a mad mass situation exactly.

But I will say this, it was this is and I feel very bad because I think Zach was being so nice during it, but it was very stupid of me to think I was just going to be able to like feel my way through a whole new approach to charging the car, and all I had to do was like look it up.

Finally he looked it up and it was like what chargers go fast?

Like what's the fastest one?

And then we had to like hunt down that brand of charger and go find it and get it and finally, Sure.

Speaker 2

What scared me is I thought you're going to these stations and the stations themselves were low on energy, like sorry, we're slow today.

I'm like, okay, that scares me.

No, on a systematic level.

They're like, we're just out of energy.

No, okay, good.

Speaker 1

That's there's plenty of energy.

You just have to either like get the app.

There's always like an app involved.

You have to sign up somewhere where you're like I was like, already, I've already had all of this on the Tesla one.

I should just be able to use that, especially since it fits the outlet.

But that was very naive of me.

That's not how capitalism works.

It's like they're not going to let everybody use the one thing.

Speaker 2

Here's how it works.

You sign up, it's a seven day trial, you forget about it, you let them all accumulate, and then one day you wake up and find out you're subscribing to many, many different charging stations or whatever.

Yes, I lost a train of thought.

I lost train of thought.

Speaker 1

It's my fault.

It's a boring topic, that is it.

It's I don't think you can dig interest out of this.

I don't.

I've led us down at blind Alley, but only to say it was kind of a dramatic, like I really love this car, and there was a guy like it was fun to drive, and that was it was just my bad research.

Speaker 2

Did you go off the road at all.

Speaker 1

No.

But when we finally found the place we got to charge at, which was the hugest relief, there was this guy at the charging station next to us, and then he as he's walking out, he says to Zach, Hey, how do you like this car?

And Zach's like, I don't know.

It's her car.

And then he and I start talking and he was like, this thing is a beast and he was like walking around it and talking about how Hyundai wins these like motocross things.

Speaker 2

Now, oh okay, like.

Speaker 1

That Hyundai is actually really doing it and like a really cool vehicle to have.

But his was he drove something else, so he wanted to know, like like how it felt to drive and all that.

Right, it's the best car I've ever driven.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's fun to bond with.

Speaker 1

And I am being paid to say that.

Speaker 2

Oh yes, absolutely, I'm being paid by NASCAR to say that.

I want to relate to a guy that follows their sport, right.

For some reason, it's not until it happens that you knew that was a void that needed to be.

Speaker 1

Filled inside of you.

Speaker 2

I want to bond with a motor sports guy.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they're cool or you.

Speaker 2

Want their approval.

You don't know until you get it.

Speaker 1

You know why, because the feeling I got when this guy was talking about how cool this car was is that he could tell it can tow thousands of pounds of something like It seemed like he was talking about a specific what is it fast in a drag race?

Or he knows the you of this car that I would never use.

Speaker 2

It that way, right, And he probably was checking out the hitch.

He wanted to know the hauling power.

Speaker 1

This thing's a beast.

Speaker 2

Look at the girth of the hitch.

It's just like betting on a racehorse.

You'll look at the balls.

That's what David Hasselhoff told me.

Speaker 1

Oh no, and you said this is actionable, sir.

You cannot have this conversation with rue hand me.

Speaker 2

Michael Knight.

Speaker 1

I don't like you like I liked you when I was eight.

Speaker 2

Yeah, ever since that drunk Hamburger video?

Speaker 1

What did you do this weekend?

Speaker 2

I what did I do?

What didn't I do?

Let's start with that list.

Speaker 1

Great.

Speaker 2

I did not build a new website, book any comedy.

I'm just kidding.

I did a relaxing weekend of toying with my voice modifying pedal machine, which is not intuitive.

There are settings in it where you can literally make your voice sound like share from the believed song in the Air tonight, Phil Collins.

There's a Berry White setting, but I probably won't be using those.

I need someone to sit with me in a studio setting or it can be in a backyard, doesn't matter, and listen to each song and help me modify because there's so many different things you can add auto tune, sure and pitch and everything, but there's like to match the song.

There's like radio garage type filters, and I think it will really help.

So I'm meeting with our old friend Drennan Davis, who's very familiar just one day.

Yes, and so we're meeting and he's gonna get me ready so I can go into this show with confidence.

Speaker 1

Wonderful.

Speaker 2

I'm not a singer.

I don't claim to be, but I am.

I'm doing it again.

Speaker 1

So in a way, your actions claim to be.

Speaker 2

Yes yes from it.

From if you are there, it will appear to be that I'm the singer in a band.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 2

I will have to announce periodically during the show this next song.

By the way, I'm a comedian that's next song.

I do want for some reason, I do want that disclaimer.

Speaker 1

Now, can I make a comment?

Speaker 2

Yes, you may.

Speaker 1

You want that disclaimer because you think it's going to get you some sort of mercy or grace from that audience.

Right, But if you keep reminding them of that, they will.

Speaker 2

Turn Oh they're going to turn on me.

Speaker 1

They'll be like, okay, but if you mentioned it more than once, they're going to be like, well, then get off.

Speaker 2

I've honestly mastered it though, because I'm a comedian that asks the audience to please question my professionalness.

Periodic threw out every sad and it's starting to work.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 2

So it's the way that you say it.

There's a wink.

I don't necessarily wink.

Speaker 1

But when you do stand up comedy, you're not being sincere, whereas if you're doing music and you mean it even a little bit.

Don't give them that, Okay, don't give them that part of your vulnerable areas.

Okay, just do.

Speaker 2

It, Okay, And how do I say I'm I'm an amazing stand up comedian, but today I'm singing.

Speaker 1

So they no one cares about what you can and can't do it?

Speaker 2

Do it that's what the other band.

That's what the other band members said the same advice.

Speaker 1

Just do it, do it and punch the air as you do it, and they will believe in you.

Speaker 2

You're right, I do.

I've gotten a lot of tips on what to do with my hands because limply having them at my waist.

Speaker 1

Doing terminator two hands as are working.

Speaker 2

Yeah, kind of like a character at the beginning of a video game.

I just sway back and forth and say the trending catchphrases.

Speaker 1

Yes, you dress me hey girlypop, hey pop whoops.

But if you do, if you start with nervous hands, but then you build into power hands, right, it gives the audience something a focus on.

There's like, oh, he's not nervous, He's doing this is a little dance, right.

Speaker 2

I do like toying with that, Yeah, like, oh, I don't know if I know what I'm doing.

Yeah, I do, so I gotta yeah, And then the only thing that is scaring.

There are like three or four songs that we have to do because they are quintessential skate rock songs.

Yeah, and there are classics and people get excited.

Speaker 1

Do you want to name a couple?

Speaker 2

Well, you It's funny because you wouldn't even know them.

Speaker 1

You don't know me, you don't know what I know.

Speaker 2

They are bands that literally look them up and it's like karate I know that skateboarders are in the bands, like it's it's bands that disbanded somewhere in the mid nineties.

But Circle Jerks, we Circle Jerks is a very good guess.

We aren't doing any circleture songs.

I also would have taken age in Orange.

Speaker 1

We are doing Agen Orange.

What about fire Hose?

Speaker 2

Yes, I'm amazed that you said that, because it's not a lot of people wouldn't guess fire Hose from the album Raging full On.

We are doing Brave Captain, Yes, which famously is a song from a not Ascopus video part that everyone remembers.

So that is one of our big songs that hell yeah, because of the way he sings.

Though I do have to like make the mic louder for that song, and I think the pedal can do that.

So I'm because some of these songs I'm screaming and then cut to a whispery Dinosaur Junior song and I'm like, Okay, this is almost speaking level and they can't hear me.

So the fact that's the most valuable thing about this this pedal is I can up the volume on it with a click of a foot.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Also, and not to be bossy, which is please people who I am as you will.

Speaker 2

You don't have a road manager, please come with us.

Well I really jumped a few steps there.

I need a boss.

Speaker 1

Well, I would just say this it's and I but only so will agree as being a singer.

But mic technique is everything.

So if you start screaming with your mouth close to the mic, then you're setting up a thing where when you try to go do whisper things close to the mic, it will sound less.

But if you do have the ability.

Speaker 2

To inherently because of certain jokes where I raise, I think I know to choke up and down.

Yes, as they say in baseball, you know me and my.

Speaker 1

Sports choke up all up and down.

Speaker 2

That I got to choke up a little.

Yeah, and yes, so I think you're right though when we because we open with some high octane there is no bungle in there that would be more as like a song in a snowboard video.

No offense all of snowboarding or Mike Patton too much horn for the skate boys.

If there's gonna be any horn, it's gonna be old timey ska.

And if it's gonna be old time ska, probably not them.

Only Operation Ivy or something Ransom or something.

Yeah, we wouldn't get into the two tone era, third wave, third wave of ska, but yes we I mean at one point we were also singing the Juicy Fruit nineteen eighty seven commercial jingle.

So there are yeah, strap your snowboards on, grab a ski juicy right, right.

But it was such a I don't think they'd bind.

Speaker 1

Because it is promotional.

Speaker 2

It's old, it's an old one.

It's just about promoting snowboarding.

Speaker 1

Jim has steam coming out of his ears, He's fists on his desk.

God damn it.

Don't they understand?

Speaker 2

But I'm all I need is because as I practice these, I'm like, Okay, my voice just cracked.

I'm going to be terrible.

If I had this machine, as I practice, I'm going to I will fly there with the utmost confidence.

I just need it for myself.

Speaker 1

But now, can I just say this just a counterpoint, Yes, as your therapist.

Speaker 2

Yes, and band manager and forget and band.

Speaker 1

Manager and tour manager.

Speaker 2

Yes, I'm the boss.

Speaker 1

Let the boys know.

I'm I'm a commin that you when your voice cracks, isn't that kind of skateboarding?

Isn't that kind of down home?

Like just try and who gives a share?

Speaker 2

Trust me?

There are songs where it gravels out and starts to crack, and it's happening right when the actual singer who did the song originally their voice cracks like I've I've gotten really good at some of the songs, and it is like a straining sound.

But there are songs where I'm singing just fine.

They go up and octave and something I realize I have something not in common with that singer that I have no ability in that range, and it just stops.

So I have to like change my voice, which is embarrassing.

But if I could click a pedal that adds a version of me that's harmonizing in a higher tone, all of a sudden, it sounds great and it is my voice, but it's a layered you know, yeah, it like does these layered echoe things.

I'm really looking forward to it.

I'm also talking about it with no knowledge and having just barely taken it out of the box.

Speaker 1

You were talking about it like it's going to solve every problem in your life, and what I'm saying is it doesn't need to, because if your voice cracks, no one gives a shit.

Speaker 2

They're just having fun.

Yeah, you're right, you're right, just have fun.

I know yere said than done, but I will.

I will.

Speaker 1

If you were saying that's me, I would get so mad at I know.

Speaker 2

I know, be yourself, Karen, right now, let's just be ourselves.

No.

I hate her because sometimes myself is boring and talentless and just wants to lay in bed during the day with the lights off.

That's me.

Speaker 1

And sometimes when I stand up to sing, all I want to be is Jennifer Hudson and all I am is Karen Kilgarreff.

And it sucks.

Yeah, And that's the human condition.

And the people in the audience are human, so watching you go through a human condition, they don't hate you for not being perfect.

They love you for not being perfect because that means they cannot be perfect.

Speaker 2

I just thought it would be fewer people watching.

There's going to be like two hundred people there.

I thought it was going to be more like, oh, like fifty campers.

But it's actually a bigger show, and the bigger the audience.

Of course, I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1

Can you wear a little lone Ranger mask?

Speaker 2

I do want to cover my face?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Yeah, me cap it?

Put a plastic bag and pull out the eye holes.

Speaker 2

Maybe I yeah, I should.

You're right.

Maybe I could distract people with costuming.

Speaker 1

Or just what about a very what about a very realistic wig so you know it's not your hair, but nobody is going to be like, why is he wearing that wig?

They'd be like, oh, that's like he's got a really nice prince valiant bob.

Speaker 2

You're right.

Or then when I take the wig off and I hang out the next day and I'm just skateboarding, no one knows.

Speaker 1

I won't get correct.

Speaker 2

You're right, This costume or disguise is really starting to make sense.

Speaker 1

Your privacy is of the utmost importance.

Speaker 2

I am going to say that in a in an old English accent to most children that say, hey, good job last night.

My privacy is of the utmost important.

Speaker 3

Please stand back, Please stand back, make way form a perimeter.

Speaker 1

Around my wig.

It king is hungry.

You could do a wig snatch on yourself and kind of as a like Rue Paul's drag Race homage.

The reveal that this is not your real hair could be very fun.

Oh yeah, if you feel like you want to distract from imperfect sees?

Speaker 2

Are you saying I should do my six wig trick from the funniest person in Austin contest?

Speaker 1

I think I really am.

Speaker 2

Thank you, I will do it.

Where do I acquire six similar curly wigs?

Speaker 1

I think it's easier than you think.

I saw some wigs.

Oh it was Palm Springs in thrift stores where they had like those short, kind of late sixties ladies wigs.

Yeah, real pixie ish.

Speaker 2

Yeah, maybe I should wear a wig.

I always thoughts it distracts from being punk rock if you have curly hair.

I feel like it's the reason I could never really be goth.

I am wearing a cure shirt right now, But then you're like my hair, and it's like that guy probably loves the.

Speaker 1

Beach, he's so sporty.

Speaker 2

He enjoys me cruises with his family.

Yeah, but if I was Goth, I'd have to have it straight.

Speaker 1

That's why I could never be goth is because I would have to My hair just turns into like a kind of a fifties nun Bob.

Usually it curls under everything curls under.

Speaker 2

I have news for you.

You are one of the most goth adults I know.

Speaker 1

Oh, thank you.

Is it because I wear black shirts all the time?

Speaker 2

It adds, it helps.

Speaker 1

It's laziness that isn't style.

I'm just like, uh, here.

Speaker 2

Maybe it's eyeball laziness.

It takes a lot more your rods and cones or that cornea.

I'm not sure.

It's been a while, so it plays the doctor to process color.

Speaker 1

When did you get stripped of your doctor's license?

Speaker 2

Well, it was around the time that I was surprising people with hernia checks.

That's yeah.

That and you're not supposed to practice medicine in alleys.

No, but the passion is still there, even though I'm no longer recognized by the union, the doctor's union.

Speaker 1

Uh, you know, you'll get there.

You'll get back there someday.

Speaker 2

I do people do like medical topic.

I have a video that I've never gone viral.

You know, I want to go viral?

Speaker 1

Is it your hip video?

I saw doing well?

Speaker 2

It's approaching one hundred thousand, and that's Instagram.

It's harder, you know, here is.

Yeah, it's very exciting.

I think comedy clubs are going to take note well.

Speaker 1

And also you have a million bits that you could clip and have do just as well.

Yeah, I'm gonna good you have good ideas.

Speaker 2

Thank you, thank you.

I'm excited, and thank you for watching it.

Speaker 1

You're welcome.

Speaker 2

It was very much a medical thing, and I've talked about it before.

Speaker 1

But again, don't you think it's like everybody has medical shiit can talk about.

They like it.

Speaker 2

That's what's been interesting is accidentally the comment section has become a forum for people telling their stories.

And also I'm getting a lot of direct messages asking for advice, which it is one topic that I am willing to go on and on about because I am so happy with what was done for me.

So I've been I'm in long.

I've left some people hanging for this podcast.

I'm gonna get right back to it.

I'm trying to talk some people into getting their hip fixed.

Speaker 1

O good.

Speaker 2

Yeah, because it changed my life for the better.

Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1

It's a good clip.

Also, maybe you want you should now if you're getting that kind of heat refloat, the one where you make people do the Nazi.

Speaker 2

Salute, all right, yeah, so good, Yeah, maybe I shall.

I noticed people do that, yes, and like I've seen this before, so they're just taking it down from there, or you can scroll through and realize, oh, people are posting things multiple times.

Yes, that's pure the game, I guess.

Speaker 1

Especially if like in my opinion the things I've seen is like when the crowd gets into it and crowd has a big reaction where it's just like it's worth it to try to keep showing people like look the people like it, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2

Think, Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep doing it.

Okay, I'm gonna do it every other day because I you know, I have a lot of I've been good about trying to film lately.

So yeah, if you if you look at your phone at all for entertainment, do go to my Instagram, which is.

Speaker 1

Chris Fairbanks at instagram dot net.

Speaker 2

What I mean when we start promoting our own social media on the podcast, you know, and by we I mean me, but I thank you that you were doing it for me.

Speaker 1

It is we got to that's the world that we live in.

It is whether we like it or not, it is.

And get those feet picks up to Chris.

I think that any way you can continue this momentum, you gotta do it.

Speaker 2

I mean, I still have to put some solutions on the nails that are not quite even toned as.

Speaker 1

I'd like them to be.

Speaker 2

A little fungal nuh, I mean yes, and it's very hard to get rid of.

Speaker 1

Yes, it is.

Speaker 2

It's nothing I did, and it's all my left foot.

Speaker 1

It is something you did.

You stood in the locker room too long.

Speaker 2

I guess I don't know what it is.

I've tried.

I've tried, I been putting.

I'm pretty good about it.

But yes, they aren't show ready yet.

Speaker 1

What is Wait?

What if you write a bit about having toenail fungus people start giving you advice in the comments, That one goes crazy because again there's a lot of shame around toenail fungus.

Yes, yes, or people saying I've had that too.

Speaker 2

Yes, here's the I should Yeah, that's the route I'm going to go really relatively medical.

Speaker 1

Yeah you love it?

Speaker 2

Yeah I do, Yeah, you do.

Yes, it's fun too, that approval, which I share with most teenagers.

I keep looking at my phone.

I'm like, huh, ten thousand more people liked it.

Yes, and it puts a spring in my step and I start whistling.

Speaker 1

It's don't do that in the apple Achian Mountains.

Speaker 2

No, no, no.

Speaker 1

But that's great and well deserved.

Thank you, You're welcome.

Do I appreciate it?

Jesus Christ?

Didn't that seem close?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

I guess they feel like the city buses can be more aggressive when they have giant Smurfs on the side.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's right.

They're protected and powered by Rihanna as Smurf.

Speaker 2

At last night, I saw a promo for the new Smurfs movie, and I don't like how they don't have tiny little Smurf voices.

They're just normal actor voices.

Speaker 1

Oh that's weird.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean clearly that's voice of an adult.

What are you doing?

Speaker 1

But they didn't do it, so they're kind of like, we're gonna do the gritty new version.

Speaker 2

Yeah we all.

Speaker 3

Now, brainy sounds like this, and clumsy like this, smurfit like this, who does and Gargan SAgs like this and oswel the cat sounds like this.

Speaker 2

I'm not going to do a cat noise.

Speaker 1

But why not?

Speaker 2

I am triggered by Oh, I have twelve characters left to go.

I do not like the word meow oh, and I do not like to act it out.

Speaker 1

Okay, And it's when did this start?

Speaker 2

I don't know, even though I'm a big fan of Conan, when he would get rare, yeah, I don't like that.

See, And if it didn't start for you, it started today.

I don't like the rare like, oh, these women are about to fight.

I get so offended.

Speaker 1

You know who used to do that?

A lot was patent to me where I'd be like, fuck that, I hate that shit and he'd be like, oh, I'm like no, no, no, this is called having an opinion.

You did it four times and there was no reactions.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, I bet he doesn't do that anymore.

Speaker 1

I bet he doesn't.

Speaker 2

And I bet there was a time where.

Speaker 1

I went, do you think you did well?

The nineties were a very misleading era with stuff like that.

Yes, people were truly scared of women speaking out loud.

Speaker 2

Right right.

If there's any way the world's gotten a little better, I think it's in that department.

But what do I know?

Speaker 1

Yeh yeah, it move perfect, tag, I know?

Speaker 2

What do I know?

But what do I really know about any experience except my own?

Speaker 1

Right?

Speaker 2

Which is kind of what my hip bit is about.

I only know about my pain, right, I'm not going to presume about your pain.

You shouldn't or about Tea Pain because I do not know it's music.

Speaker 1

But isn't it amazing that Tea Pain was like the first auto tune and people were shitty to him about it, right, not the first, but like the big And then he came back and was like, oh do you want to hear me sing?

Is that your complaint?

And then is like the best singer and has cover He did a cover of Crazy Train that Ozzy was like, this is the best cover of Crazy Train.

Speaker 2

Oh okay, I did see it.

I didn't realize that was te Pain.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Well, what I've learned from tinkering with the autotune thing, it doesn't make up for I mean, you still have to It's almost like it just adds an effect, but you have to be able to sing, right, Yeah, it's a little bit.

Speaker 1

It's not like a filter that makes you perfectly beautiful.

Speaker 2

Right Like the song where I'm having trouble getting to a high note with auto tune, it's just a robot having trouble with that note.

Like it's still the issue is still there.

But I'm going to work on it.

Speaker 1

Do you want to try to hit that note right now?

Wait?

Was that?

Is that?

That song?

Come to yes Zeppelin?

Speaker 2

Yes?

Speaker 1

Yes?

Is it?

Speaker 2

No?

I should we see it?

That's the thing about people ask what songs we're gonna do, and the only one that would maybe be known for somehow you just guessed it.

There's Dayasaur Junior in fire Hose on there.

Speaker 1

Stop doubting me being tapped into the skateboard world.

Speaker 2

I am still very impressed.

It's a specific time in the skateboard world too.

Not only did you tap the world.

Speaker 1

I'm like Zelig, I was there.

You just didn't see me.

I was in the background, but I was there when all these things happened for the first time I shot that video.

Speaker 2

It's amazing to me.

Speaker 1

That's not true.

Speaker 2

Some of the some of the bands, some of the songs I like the most are bands that were never heard of again, and you try and find, like have been searching for the lyrics, they just don't exists.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Also, I think there's a probably an advantage I have because my ex husband, who we both know, would cut skateboard and snowboard videos to songs like that and I would hear them constantly and sometimes even listen to them simply because I mean that was for Fuse or whatever, yea fuel, whatever it was.

But I think I was a little more immersed in the world than I even understood for a while, right.

Speaker 2

Yeah, And when I worked on that show called The Daily Habit, there were musical guests and I it's amazing, now who was on that show that became a huge band?

Speaker 1

Like?

Speaker 2

Who oh, I mean.

Speaker 1

That's the one we ended up going to.

Oh, Eve go now, I know that's there.

Sorry, Eve go, Eve.

Speaker 2

Got that's a line from Wally his little robot girlfriend girlfriend named Eve.

Speaker 1

I interrupted you.

I'm sorry, it's all.

Speaker 2

Right, it's all right.

We were on the road to nowhere.

Yeah, we don't sing that song.

Speaker 1

Wait, you were saying, you were saying the band Phoenix played on Fuse.

Speaker 2

Yeah, bands like that that weren't huge at the time but then blew up.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And it's funny that that's the only example I could.

Boy, if you just said, hey, name a band, I would go, I don't beatles, you know.

Yes, it's hard for me.

Speaker 1

I remember that's like whenever when people ask me what my favorite book is, and I just say.

Speaker 2

What is it?

Speaker 1

The Da Vinci Coast.

Yeah, yeah, it's easy.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I come at him with the Outsiders.

Yeah, something I written in sixth grade.

Uh.

The best thing we had happened though, is uh Riza from Wu Tang came and did not have his DJ Something happened flights wise and we had two artists booked that day, Reza and a band called The Waves, which is kind of yeah two v's yeah yeah, and they said, well, we'll learn whatever song it is, and they spent like ten minutes learning liquid swords, I believe.

Yeah, and the joy on Rizza's face, well, he's kind of doing a song where he has to have tough, tough guy face.

He kept looking back at these skater teenagers at the time, and they did it so perfectly.

And it's still on YouTube Waves with rizzah Yeah.

Yeah, it's the one like fuel TV video that that wasn't scoured from the Internet and taken down.

Yeah, it's it's it was such a cool thing.

Speaker 1

That's the magic of like true musicians where literally on the line where they can do that, and it's kind of that thing where it's like this is we know a basic chord progression, this isn't as hard as it looks from the outside, but it also takes that willingness and that kind of like everybody jump in and like make it happen.

I mean, that's the that's a lovely I love.

Speaker 2

That crossover, especially with a with a band.

Like when I saw Wu Tang at the Hollywood Bowl, they cheered like, who here was born in the eighties, and there's a little cheering here is born in the nineties, And then when they said seventies, the entire place freaked out.

I just realized, Oh, I'm surrounded by people my age, and I remember when I was a kid hearing these songs for the first time.

But Waves were a band that was in I mean, they weren't around it all right, and so the fact that they you know, just gets passed around.

Speaker 1

If it's good, that's right, Yeah, it doesn't go away.

That's like me beyond Mister Show.

In the late nineties, early two thousand's, two thousand and three, I start working on Ellen, a daily show.

I'm there five years when I leave, So nothing else happened in my life except for trying to do this job correctly.

When I leave, I come back out and in the meantime, Mister Show was released on DVD.

So all these college students right there was like a new batch of people that liked Mister Show from the Ridge.

And suddenly I would walk down the street and people would be like, hey, are you and Mister Show?

And it was the weirdest, like that was such an obscure, one off thing that I was like, Oh, that's just a fun thing we got to do.

And then the DVD came out and it was like a generation, the next generation got to see it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and it's so cool.

For me, it was just a tape that was floating around like faces of Death.

Yeah, and I got my hands on it.

And I never grew up in a house with HBO unless my dad where to climb up on the pole in the backyard and looking up himself, which.

Speaker 1

He did do.

Speaker 2

Uh, and yeah, it was it was Uh.

When I first met you, I was like, oh my gosh, its shell.

Speaker 1

It was such a credit.

I mean, I really lucked out.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's really cool.

You're good on it.

Thank you, Everyone's well Instagram.

And then I tell you, hey that that member that sketch you did where you're playing a blind girl.

You're good in it.

Speaker 1

Thank you.

Yep, that was I was just like, please God, let me remember all my lines.

I realized, like I in college loved being in place, but as I got older, I'm just like I can't.

I think whether it's ADHD or just like pure nerves of actually being on a TV show or something, it's just like so fucking hard for me to memorize lines.

I just can't do it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it is hard for me as well.

And I'm willing to write things on my shoe, on my hand.

Yeah, just an initial to trigger what I am supposed to say.

I need those little devices.

Speaker 1

But don't you think if we had quieter minds overall, it wouldn't be that hard, if we just didn't think so much about being sure that we know what other people are thinking and all that shit, and just actually focused.

Speaker 2

Right.

Yeah, I wish there was a pedal I could click on that turned down the volume of my mind.

Speaker 1

This machine, you're putting a lot into this machine.

You have a lot of expectations.

Speaker 2

Machine, Please do my taxes and make me feel emotionally comfortable in crowds.

Speaker 1

Machine, Machine watch TV with me.

Speaker 2

Yes, I'm very excited.

When is that I do the shows at the camp on the ninth.

Speaker 1

And it's a men's sleep away golf camp.

Speaker 2

It's skateboarding mostly, okay, and yes it is.

So it's Mount Hood, Oregon fun and it'll be really fun.

And then I go to another camp in Pennsylvania to do stand up for skateboarders.

Speaker 1

Just make sure you don't join a militia of any kind.

Speaker 2

Please, No, No, We're just only allowed on the campus.

Speaker 1

Because you guys are having a loneliness epidemic, and I think it just people make wrong choices.

So when you're all in your camping gear standing around a fire, just be careful what blood oaths you take?

Speaker 2

Right?

Please?

Right?

Yeah?

Well, the only fire I've ever stood around is one where you toss a log in to accept his name.

Speaker 1

You're going to go full Christian commitment.

Speaker 2

I mean that's the only way you can get a seat by the fire.

Like, Okay, what do I say when I toss this log?

Speaker 1

Did I accept Jesus Christ as my personal savior?

Speaker 2

I did that last week?

Okay, here we go again.

No, it's a sin to do it more than one.

Why didn't my atheist parents teach me these things?

Speaker 1

Where is the pamphlet?

Speaker 2

Yes?

Speaker 1

I got a pamphlet I think it was Jovah's witness, So it was like, are you ready for the final judgment?

And I was just it was sitting on my like I don't know what you call that foyer table or your davenport sorry to yeah, yes, and it's just like you are you ready for the end?

Or it's like, I mean kind of yeah.

Isn't this the end anyway?

Isn't this what we're kind of staring down?

That's why it's so scary.

Speaker 2

At the end.

I was born ready, Yeah, yay, Yeah, it's uh.

I don't know that I am, but it doesn't matter.

I read a thing recently that there was a woman getting a cat scan trying to figure out what was wrong with her brain.

During the cat scan, passed away, so they had, for the first time ever a scan of someone's brain activity upon death, and her entire brain was lit up.

So they know now that when you die, you do all of your memories come back.

Your life does indeed flash before your eyes.

Wow, it was part of the brain that has memories.

I know that sounds like I just made it up, but it was the memory lobe, if you will, great all going off so hey, I'm just saying it's something to look forward to.

Speaker 1

So that kind of thing where people have maybe out of body experiences or they think something majestic happen, it's just truly their brain, like their brain hard drive dumping all the information that it's.

Speaker 2

A yeah or or I think that the disappointing thing we all hear when we're young is that we only use ten percent of our brain.

But I guess right when, right when we die, we get to see more of it, which is something to look forward to.

I'm this is just a silver lining.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you're right.

Yeah, don't forget when you're down and feeling blue, don't forget there's a final slideshow that you're going to.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and it's really good and you're in it.

Speaker 1

You're in most of it.

Yeah, it's yours.

Speaker 2

Do you want to be a star then die?

Speaker 1

No, you have to live and then when you die later it just separate from you and kind of like whatever fate decides.

Yes, that's when it pays off.

You have to live live.

Speaker 2

Live, Yeah, time, and then you know later on there's time to laugh and love.

Speaker 1

Yes, but live, live, live, live, get that necklace first, then after the fact, maybe there's some laughter.

Hopefully there's some love.

Speaker 2

The only problem is it's film we're talking about.

It is a very short film.

Speaker 1

Yeah it is.

It's a quick one.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well that's five second film.

Speaker 1

It's a flush before your eyes style.

Yeah.

Yeah, doesn't seem like we drove so far away?

Speaker 2

It does.

Speaker 1

But actually I need to make this right up here.

I hope I beat this bus.

Speaker 2

Oh, there'll be less aggressive.

There aren't smurfs on the side.

Speaker 1

Doesn't it seem like someone just smoked pot?

Speaker 2

It does, And I think that means a skunk has passed away.

Speaker 1

Oh what do a skunks life flashing before his eyes look like?

Speaker 2

Oh?

Just all the different dogs he could have farted gas.

Speaker 1

Onto, Just a series of upset dog faces.

Speaker 2

Yeah, memories of that time that it painted itself black and had a love affair with a black cat.

Speaker 1

With the stripe down its back because it walked under a painter's do not cross area.

Right, of course, I wish I could explain this cartoon.

Speaker 2

Yes, you all know what happened.

Speaker 1

You were there for the sexual assault or pepula pew and all.

Speaker 2

Of his exploits so aggressive.

Speaker 1

So wouldn't take no for an answer.

Speaker 2

And we were supposed to just children watching that behavior.

Yeah, assuming so much about the French.

Speaker 1

People very very unhealthy for everybody involved, mostly the French.

Speaker 2

Yes, we'd like to apologize France for assuming so many things about you because of our cartoon skunks.

Speaker 1

That's right, we love your Fries.

We don't want you to be mad at us.

Speaker 2

Beautiful tower and even though I don't know what you're saying, it sounds wonderful.

Speaker 1

It does.

So I heard a thing because there's a lot of people who try to learn conversational French so that they can go and like on their big trip to Paris, they can at least say where's the bathroom or sure?

Sure?

And most Americans are like their French are so mean about like you, you always sound like shit.

They don't like it, and then it turns out somebody didn't wrote an article about it.

Because when you are a young person in the French school system and you try to speak English, the teachers are super mean about it, and it's like you're always terrible, and they're just really punishing so that you get really good at English, because it's almost like accept no failures in English.

Speaker 2

Oh, so they're just kind of taking that to the streets with you.

Speaker 1

They've already been kind of traumatized them.

This is what you do to people to help them speak better is just you're vicious, and that's just what that's the set point.

Speaker 2

Oh really, okay, I.

Speaker 1

Think it's a good at least it's if they're not just choosing to be mean.

Speaker 2

Right.

I gotta go and find out for myself.

I gotta go somewhere.

Ye learn a little bit of the language as it pertains to bathrooms the water.

What is your name and how are you?

Speaker 1

Yes?

Speaker 2

Me zapatos is moi bonita?

Paramatto is MOI fail?

Speaker 1

My What was the first thing you said?

My shoes are very good, para are very beautiful.

Para fail because my cat is.

Speaker 2

Ugly, very ugly.

My shoes are beautiful, but my cat is my cat is very ugly.

Speaker 1

And that's what you can say.

That's yeah, that's the choice you have for something.

Speaker 2

I mean, it's what it's what came to me now, I'm just showing off.

No, I do I support it.

I mean, I took Spanish in college.

I forgot it all.

I went to Costa Rica.

A log was in a wave and hit me on the ankle.

So then I just sat in the house for fourteen days and talked to the kid who managed the property, and he was like pulling, like lifting up things and saying what they are in Spanish and asking me like he wanted to learn English.

And it was such a cool, like my brain was pulling things out of the recesses of my mind without me needing to die in an MRI machine just to like teach him things.

It was so fun.

And by the end of that two weeks we were converse stationally talking.

We were friends nice.

It was really cool.

And then of course you.

Speaker 1

Were conversationally talking about only the objects in the room.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, exactly it honestly, yeah, it was.

Speaker 1

It was.

It was tough.

You don't need much more.

Speaker 2

No, No, he was like taking a part a motorcycle.

I was like learning about the motorcycle and learning Spanish.

It was great.

I missed that kid.

Speaker 1

Write him a letter.

Speaker 2

I want to, I do.

I've thought about him a lot.

Uh.

This kid like managed this house and took care of the property, but he also did other things in town, and I think some of them maybe were against the law, but he was.

He took us to a party, me and my friend because we were bored one night and pulled up to this warehouse in the middle of a field where people were like fighting with Someone had a homemade weapon with nails in at the end of a at the end of a board, and they're gonna I was like swinging a mace and they were trying to hit each other, and he showed up and whistled and they were like sorry, and they like cowered at the presence at this five foot eight kid.

And I'm like, oh, we're with like a head hauncho.

And then everyone in the party stared at us, like who are these guys, And he made an announcement.

I don't know what he said, and everyone was super nice to us.

Speaker 1

Oh he's oh, we're with Like these guys' shoes are very beautiful.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's where I got it.

He said, say hello to my friends, the ugly shoe and the beautiful cat.

And someone brought u spears and it was such a great time dancing.

Speaker 1

And how long ago?

Speaker 2

Oh this was I mean two thousand and twelve.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, quite a ten maybe quite a.

Speaker 2

Time ago, yes, quite some time ago.

Speaker 1

Time to go back revisit.

That man has a family.

Speaker 2

Now it's funny when like, oh, totally that that man is uh has.

Speaker 1

Children, that man is the star of Narcos.

Speaker 2

He has no But I am the same person as I am now.

But yeah, it was.

It was the only thing that they tell you about that I was excited about that was not fun was the howlder monkeys.

There are monkeys that are quite mischievous, and all the food and kitchens are like outside of a house sometimes and they just opened the fridge and took all our food like we bought food, and they stole things.

You'd be out in the ocean surfing, they'll grab your bag and run away with it like they are like looking for stuff, and they are mean and not scared of you.

And I'm like, I don't.

I always wanted a little monkey to jump on my shoulder and be my friend.

Speaker 1

And no, I mean, I think we all have sense the Curious George days where you're just like this monkey is hilarious.

Yes, he takes drugs, he loves spaghetti.

I want to party with him.

He loves the jungle like I do.

Yeah, great times.

That's not real monkeys.

Speaker 2

No, they're not even the stars.

Did I did a little thing with the monkey from Friends he threw his shit a thing.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he doesn't want to be an actor.

No, that's the problem.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, you're right, that's what it is.

Yeah.

I tried so hard with that monkey, like I know we're going to be friends, and it just didn't happen.

It just didn't happen.

I know, I'm nicer to him than Shwimmer was.

I mean just because of uh well I.

Speaker 1

Know myself to be you know, you're nicer than Swimmer.

Speaker 2

I don't know.

Maybe he's great with monkeys.

Speaker 1

This is a challenge to David Schwimmer, come on this podcast and defend your character.

Speaker 2

Finally I get to have a monkey competition with a star Swims.

Speaker 1

He was so good in The People versus O.

J.

Simpson.

He played Robert Kardashian and he was fucking great.

Speaker 2

Really, I don't remember him being great.

Speaker 1

How dare you?

First of all, secondly, you're right he was.

Speaker 2

I was distracted by how good Sarah Paulson was as Marcia.

Speaker 1

Crossmarrusia Marsha Marsha.

Speaker 2

Marcia Gay Harden along they gave there was a screenshot because she's a friend of my girlfriends, and so we're taking pictures like yay, you're on.

Speaker 1

That's thing.

Speaker 2

I took a picture and her bangs were perfect, six six six no, three curls in a row, and it looked like a sixty sixty six on her forehead, but it was just the hair.

But they were so perfect that I'm like, okay, makeup, it's definitely goth.

They put a six six sick.

That was great.

Ah.

I love hidden messages and bangs, don't you.

Speaker 1

I love to search for Satan everywhere I look.

He's there, he is there.

Speaker 2

Never know, he's always listening.

Speaker 1

He's always in the bangs.

Speaker 2

They'll be bad.

Speaker 1

This was delightful, one.

Speaker 2

Of our better episodes.

Speaker 1

I think so too.

Speaker 2

I'm sorry we never got to our guest in the back.

Oh sorry, uh, David Trimmer, I forgot you were back there.

Speaker 1

He Actually we talked about you like you were going to defend your honor, but you could have done it this time.

We just won't let you answer.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, I just kind of what are the chances that I started talking about someone in there in the back seat?

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, I guess that's it makes sense.

You were thinking of him.

Speaker 2

Right right, Yeah, just now on the front of my brain.

Speaker 1

Anyway, No one really cares about that show.

Speaker 2

So yeah, you're right, Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1

It doesn't really matter, it doesn't.

It's not equally as popular today as it was twenty five years ago.

Speaker 2

Oh what, you're talking friends.

Speaker 1

And talking friends and yeah, I'm being sarcastic because it is.

Speaker 2

Yeah it is.

I was gonna it's so funny.

Your sarcasm is so dry.

Look away, Okay, we gotta go and start a new episode.

And so this is the concludes this one you've been listening to.

Do you need to write by?

Speaker 1

And here?

Speaker 2

Oh I'm so excited for the next one.

Yeah, this has been an exactly right production.

Speaker 1

Our senior producer is Annalise Nelson.

Speaker 2

Mixed by Edson Choy.

Speaker 1

Our talent booker is Patrick Cootner.

Speaker 2

Theme song by Karen Kilgareth.

Speaker 1

Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.

Follow the show on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook at dinar podcast That's d y.

Speaker 2

N Ar Podcast.

For more information, go to exactly Rightmedia dot com.

Speaker 1

Thank you, Oh you're welcome.

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