Episode Transcript
Are you leaving?
Speaker 2I you wanna way back home?
Speaker 1Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 3Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim and give us time and aid, terminol and gage.
Speaker 2We want to send you off in style.
Speaker 1We wanna welcome you back home.
Speaker 4Tell us all about it.
Speaker 1We scared her?
Was it fine?
Malborn?
Do you need to ride?
Do you need to ride?
Do you need to ride?
Do you need to ride?
Do you need to ride?
Do your need to ride?
Speaker 2Ride with Karen and Chris?
Welcome to Do you need a ride?
This is Chris.
Speaker 1Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgere.
Speaker 2Oh I agree, yeah, we just This is the second recording today.
Ah, little dog in the backseat, the cutest.
It had a tiny head and it was making a human face like the dog from Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
This is our second recording, and we both expended a lot of energy in the first.
Speaker 1I think we can get all of that back and then some, especially if we just take a little quick, quick peek at this dog.
Speaker 2Let's take a quick peek.
Oh see, well look at the lady though.
Speaker 1She's great.
Speaker 2Yeah, they have a similar face.
She's just as enjoyable.
You're coming home with me get in this tiny cage, lady.
But luckily what we lack an energy, we can just lay that onto today's guests.
Yeah, I've already said is going to do most of the heavy lifting.
You know, our guests from clubs and colleges across the country.
Everyone put your ears together for our friend.
Al Madrigal.
Yay Madrigal.
Energy shot, energy, shot right out of a cannon.
I'm known for my high energy work.
That is the most note I get on every single thing I act on.
They're like, hey, can we try it just a lot more energy and see what sounds?
Oh, so you think i'd learn at this point?
Speaker 1Do you ever say listen?
No, I could, but you won't like it.
Speaker 3This is what I do a low energy You're drawn out.
I like to take your dialogue and it around.
Speaker 2Wait what show was I watching where I didn't know you'd be in it?
And you were like a detective and you came in a room with other characters and you had some dry wit, and I felt everyone should have matched your energy.
I've played a detective.
Speaker 3I think detective an algebra teacher four times each so I get detective.
I get everybody's every single character is just over it, you know, yeah, right, a lot of sighing, and.
Speaker 2That's what I do.
I'm right, guys, listen, this is how this is gonna go.
Speaker 5See.
Speaker 3That's that I need the homework to be redone.
Speaker 2Yeah, and what's with this dead body?
It's all the same character.
Speaker 1What's the detective show you've done recently out?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 3I played a detective in our friend Henry Phillips punching the clown?
Speaker 2Right?
Speaker 5Yes?
Speaker 2What was the second one?
Was that?
Punching the clown?
Punching Henry?
Punching Henry?
I was a detective in that.
I was a barista in both.
And really that's funny.
Is that something they did on purpose?
Speaker 1Yes?
Speaker 3And then I was in a Sony Marvel movie playing a detective with Tyrese Gibson.
We were tracking down Jared leto where's a vampire?
Speaker 2It's funny.
I don't know if it was that.
And then let's see what else were you in?
We have a ghost?
Nope, okay, I don't know what that is.
That's Tig was in it, and she was it was the best I've seen Tig in the thing.
And uh, I'm trying to think there's four more.
Yeah, I played cop.
That's a fun A lot was it because of a mustache?
I think mustagh.
I think I people think of me as a cop, and then they I come in a room and these aren't auditions.
I'm talking about it.
It's just parties and and they expect me to have a cop vibe and they can't put their finger on what it is.
But I got rid of that mustache during COVID because oh the germs.
The oh really, there's a lot of Germans with the mustache.
I something about reassume.
So I just burned mayonnaise.
I just everything all of a sudden.
It's kind of gross.
Speaker 3Yeah, especially when they get big and bushy.
I've had one since I have now older children.
But if I ever tried to shave at all, my daughter would.
There's videos of other dads doing this.
Speaker 2I try to shave a mustache.
My family hates my face, just go what are you doing?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 2We all remember looking so so vulnerable with this tiny, thin upper lip.
Speaker 3Yeah, so for like ninety five percent of the time since two thousand and six, I think I've been rocking some sort of beard mustache.
And it's helpful because I have a baby face, right yeah, yeah, yeah, don't take.
Speaker 2A look, No you do.
Speaker 1I've been looking this whole time.
Speaker 2I would look by my neck.
I really take it in, take it in, drink it in.
It's a torn rotator cuff.
I really love to look at your face.
I want to.
I feel like it would help me if I feel like when I did stand up with the mustache, something made people listen to me.
How about dog again?
Speaker 1How about how about that dog?
Speaker 2That's a cute one.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 2You know, our dog Vernon under the knife today.
Speaker 3We have two dogs, Henry and Vernon, seventeen years old and fourteen years old.
They're both Chihuahua mixes, which are like the Honda Civic of dogs.
Speaker 2And it's like, you know, did you ever smoke cigarettes?
Oh yeah, well.
Speaker 3Yeah, remember when you get like an American spirit and it's like, when's this thing an end?
Speaker 2That's how we feel about the dogs.
That's so funny and they're adorable.
Speaker 3There's still but Henry is seventeen was it doing it quick?
What it is like one hundred and nineteen years old?
Suddenly crazy and he has he's blind, no teeth.
Speaker 2We pulled all the teeth, which gave him.
Speaker 3A second life and so he can't hear, can't see, no teeth.
Speaker 2And tongue always out yep.
Speaker 3Yeah, but still, you know, getting excited about a treat even though he can't see it.
Speaker 1Coming, you can fell it.
Speaker 2It's a treat time.
And then Vernon was a dog that.
Speaker 3Natasha La Shiro when she was dating Duncan Trussell is a forever.
Speaker 2Ago has her dog.
Speaker 3Walker finds a dog in the street and that dog, Blanche that she still has pregnant with our dog Vernon.
Johnny Pemberton has that dog for two days, can't handle it, brings it to our house with the cage and a blanket and says, we didn't know how involved this was going to be, and I don't think we're ready.
And the dog we'd been looking at the whole time, when you know, they were puppies.
I was bringing the kids up there.
Speaker 2So we took on Vernon and he's fourteen and.
Speaker 3Today you know, dogs get little bumps all over him and there's like a little sunk, there's there is a huge one and we had taken out of his leg.
Speaker 2Yeah, so labsessed.
It's cosmetic surgery.
They yeah, we want to.
Speaker 3We're gonna get them looking like that dog out the window, cute cuting his dog up.
Speaker 2Whatever it takes.
Yeah, but if you lift it up.
Speaker 3Six pack abs by the way, delicious sandwich place on the left here if anyone's eating same sub king highly recommended.
Speaker 1Have you had the one that's like the bond Me?
Speaker 2Yes?
Oh so bad?
That place is great.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 3There's a very weird place next door where guy's just sitting in there with a pot of chili and.
Speaker 1I should it for sale?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 3Oh, and he also has a golf simulator really and then a variety of jerseys and that's the store, and.
Speaker 1It's called Boytown.
Speaker 2Yeah, Chili, Jersey's Golf.
Speaker 1Just a goodang.
Speaker 2Yeah, we got another season desist from boys Town.
Speaker 1This is a singular Yeah.
Speaker 2Come on, you don't see too many of these drive through Baskin Robbins.
Speaker 1I know that's like one of the only ones.
Do you want an ice cream cone?
Speaker 2Ye?
Go, let's hit it.
They have let's do it no more, no less than thirty one flavors as far as I recall it.
Speaker 1I want to answer your question that you asked before we started, and I said, save it for the pod, right the listener's gonna understand.
Do you want to ask the question again?
Speaker 2Yes, you have there ever been any accidents or close calls.
Speaker 1On do you need a ride the other?
I mean this was like a month ago or around then.
We were on Laurel Canyon and Moor Park and I was talking and kind of not paying attention and I just went and the light was red.
So it was trafficking there was.
It was crazy and it was very scary and the guy.
I just started driving and the guy was about to take a left and he did one of those things about what hell are you doing?
I was literally like, I don't have an answer for you.
I'm fully in the wrong everyone.
Speaker 2How do you motion to yourself?
Speaker 5My bad?
Speaker 2I'm in it.
I do so much going on.
Speaker 1I knew the playful.
Speaker 2I do the playful shoot myself in the head that usually gets you off the hook.
I'm the problem.
Speaker 1It's me again.
Speaker 2That was yeah, but that was just a close call, right.
Somehow I remember the Eddie Pepatone's life flashing before.
Speaker 1My eyes when I was on Oh, we were on the freeway.
Speaker 2You think it's going to be your life that flashes.
Speaker 1Before you're out.
It was Eddie Pepaton's life.
Speaker 2Very details of his childhood.
That was almost a t boning.
But I remember him not even noticing he was didn't even stop his story.
Speaker 1Yeah, he had a good one going.
Speaker 2But it's yeah, Karen's a very good driver, except for is it over there?
Oh thirty one?
Yeah, no, I think it's down to the left.
Speaker 1Okay, great, Yeah, I try not to crash on the Driving podcast.
But you know, La, there's a they really throw a lot of curve balls at you and you're.
Speaker 2Going out on the road.
Yeah with the other podcast.
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, how often you go out?
Speaker 1We haven't gone out in six years, six six We stopped obviously when COVID.
Speaker 2Had strikes things.
Yeah, it's just we just.
Speaker 1Built that excuse.
We We're just like, yeah, we know we can't go out as COVID, and then we're like, well, we're not going to be the first ones out, and then we're like, well, we're not going out now, and then basically we just kind of put it off.
Speaker 2That's fun.
Where are you going to go?
Speaker 1Kind of the major cities like Boston, Seattle, New York, LA.
Speaker 3Yeah, hit the hits everybody with three major major league sports teams that say, like minimum out.
Speaker 1You have to have a hockey team.
Speaker 2Yeah yeah, those two boy, these guys.
Do you need a mini bid Yeah yeah, do.
Speaker 1You need a head injury?
Speaker 2Yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 3I was talking about like going to cities that can't command a zoo like sometimes.
I was setting a bar for going out on the road because I took seven years off from stand up altogether.
Speaker 2I wasn't going out at all.
And then COVID, you know.
Speaker 3It's like post Daily Show.
After the Daily Show, would go out quite a bit.
Me and John Hodgman, We're a little team that would hit the road.
Speaker 2That was so fun.
And then.
Speaker 5You know, wanting to watch.
Speaker 3Kids grow up because I had teenagers and I knew had time with them was limited.
Speaker 2So then stuck around if anyone needed me.
Here's a funny.
No one needed me at all.
Yeah yeah, so so can you can you leave?
Please go out on the road.
Speaker 1So I.
Speaker 3Just for the first time started going out in the spring.
Actually seven or eight years was crazy and it feels good.
Speaker 2Still, don't love.
Speaker 6It, really, it's hard.
Speaker 2Really.
I I well, the flights and the travel and yeah, sure you know, and you're also trapped in that loveless relationship right right, there's everything that, but the actual being on stage is you enjoy that?
It's fun?
Yeah, yes, it's the it's the getting there, and it's the you.
Speaker 3Know, if you do a lot of the improvish comedy clubs, they're you know, it's they're in malls and as a grown man walking around a food court aimlessly, it's a weird place to be.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Yeah, I suppose that I've drifted away from that a little bit, but I've want to start doing comedy clubs again.
We really can do it, all right, I mean aren't we.
Speaker 3Why shouldn't Burbank It has a Basking Robins drive through, it might as well.
Speaker 2Right, And the look at the logo they've hidden the thirty one in the kind of genius goes.
It was there in front of us the whole time.
Speaker 1Why did we not just like the prime Dick.
Speaker 2Come again now?
Right?
Yes, a lot of people haven't seen a penis like that before, but it is supposed to be.
It's no what I'm probably what are you kid's cup?
Speaker 1You can have anything from the left side of the menu.
I don't know.
Speaker 2Gold medal ribbon is a classic?
Speaker 1Are that world class chocolate?
Ever had that.
No, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2I'm kind of lactose intolerant.
Oh oh, so I'll get it.
Speaker 3I'll get a Subert because I was gonna say so by until I realized we were basking robins and they're they're calling that Shubert.
Speaker 2Oh really yeah, I never knew the difference.
But it's like catchup, cats up, and there's.
Speaker 1A third one, I believe a pronunciation one.
Speaker 2What's everybody else looking for?
Speaker 1Here?
Speaker 2Cones were getting full Sundays.
It's so funny that I grew up on a street with a dairy queen at one end of the street, one block away, and three blocks away there was a basking Robins, and I think I went to each of them once in my life.
You have seen this ad for this Dubai chocolate for I know.
Speaker 1Dude, Dubai chocolate is a big thing these days.
Speaker 2Everyone.
It's sweeping the nation.
People love it.
I had some just the other day, and man, do I get it?
Oh?
Speaker 1Really, yes, it's good.
Speaker 2It's made with it.
Speaker 3Years of models that aren't allowed to leave that they took away their dass boards.
Speaker 1So delicious and rare.
Oh my god, I'm gonna try one of those because I've never I keep seeing people trying different versions of it.
Yeah, and I just don't know what it is.
But I do like pistachio.
Speaker 2I mean there there is and it is always with pistachio.
Have you ever in the history of this podcast pulled how many drive.
Speaker 5Strews have you been through?
Speaker 1Let's see a bunch.
Speaker 2A significant amount, but mostly RB's.
Speaker 1And sure almost always are just go to the one over and over.
Speaker 2Yeah, we go anywhere where the meat squats out of a Caulking gun.
Speaker 1We've done Krispy Kream drive through, which is in the Burbank.
Speaker 2Airplane popular episode.
We ate the donuts while recording.
Speaker 4People love that you love people listening to other people chew, eat ice cream and slope things right, It's like that as Mr.
Speaker 5Yes with food.
Speaker 1I tried to sneak a rice Crispy bar one time that I got it.
Speaker 2Start comments.
Speaker 1You cannot do it as the host.
Speaker 3It was really crack when snapping and we should all go full what about Bob on this too, and just go.
Speaker 1So good, Oh okay, everybody figure out what you want.
Speaker 2Okay, I guess I'm doing this is crazy.
It's so funny to me that there's a part of my brand that still thinks we're going to get in trouble because there's not a kid in the car.
Speaker 3Right, do you guys see Sydney Sweeney's got your own scoop here too?
Speaker 1They should take that down.
Speaker 2I never It's funny how I've gotten.
I'm so excited about Liam Nason and Pam Anders.
I'm like, yes, I totally invested in that relationship.
Speaker 1I'm exciting.
Speaker 2It's have you seen the Naked Gun yet?
Speaker 1Yes?
It is so great, really gely hilarious.
Speaker 3We have beginning to and I will venture to say because I don't really remember, and I know I loved all of them.
Speaker 2Funnier than the originals.
Wow, okay, I'll say it, puggin Okay, I mean in the trailer, I have a list of trope lines.
The one at the top is that's going to leave a mark.
I was disappointed.
Why I saw it and one of the ghostbusters.
Did they not have that in the movie or did they just use it for the trailer?
Speaker 5They have.
Speaker 2Answered they were given a very difficult job.
Okay, Like I feel like that is just a movie that did not need to be made again, right, and they did an incredible job.
Okay, yeah they did that.
Pamela Anderson was wonderful.
And you're going to see why they fell in love.
Speaker 7Oh okay, and they're falling in love on screen like you're laughing, but then you're like, oh, I bet you After this, they went to craft service together and like talked about hands.
Speaker 2Wouldn't it be disappointing if it was all publicity stunt?
And so is the Sweeney things.
She's like, are you sure people are gonna call me racist?
Yes they will, but they will.
But racists are the only people buying movie ticket.
Yeah.
Yeah, and Deniman is always worn by racists.
You get five percent Sweenye.
Speaker 1Okay, here's a napkin, thank you, a little pink spoon than you.
A child's cup, Yeah, appreciate it, very large?
Speaker 2Yeah, I know, you get a lot of ice cream.
In trouble it said twelve and under.
Oh look at that.
What would that'd be hilarious?
Can I see the boy in your car?
Speaker 5Yeah?
Speaker 2Can you show me your child?
Speaker 5Please?
Speaker 1Boy?
Speaker 5Bring out the boy?
Speaker 2Have the boy come out and spin around?
H on our little info sheet.
It's something about when were you in HR for ten years before I ever knew you when I was living next to Karen's aunt aunt Carol.
Speaker 1Is that Martin?
Speaker 2Right?
Speaker 1We lost Uncle Martin a couple months ago.
He lived.
He was like ninety three or something.
Speaker 6Thanks for great life.
Speaker 1I just need all to know what's going on with San Francisco too.
Speaker 3She was so excited that I was in comedy because you said, my niece is in Los Angeles, and I of course knew who you were from San.
Speaker 2Francisco's stand up and then yeah, I was.
Speaker 5She was very nice.
Speaker 3We were on the most idyllic little block that was above West Portal.
Speaker 2Like you've been to that house, you know exactly where we were.
Speaker 1It was my favorite place in San Francisco.
It was it was always a little foggy, It was at the base of a mountain.
It was the most I mean, that's like the magic of San Francisco.
Where like you would probably never see West Portal if you were going to San Francisco to like look at stuff.
Speaker 5No, that is on no one's tourist list.
Speaker 2Yeah there is no, but.
Speaker 1Those like the Irish bars in Westportal are some of the best bars.
I mean, like, of course we went there after like wakes and stuff like that.
It just also like our San Francisco cousins, because we were the country cousins, and so Mary, Kate, Nileen, you know, all the cousins that lived in that house and grew up.
Speaker 2When you say you were the country cousins, where were you coming from?
Speaker 5Oh my god, you really were the country.
Speaker 2Yeah, but Ptoluma's actual country.
Speaker 1Yeah it is.
Speaker 3Let's take bites of your yeah yeahs.
Speaker 2A review of the Dubai Chocolate Bar.
Taking my first bite and hard, fucking hard.
It's almost like a frozen Oh uh oh, what's different about it?
Brain freeze?
Pretty good.
My mom has this amazing rags.
Speaker 3For Riches story where she was a secretary at a company.
She met my dad at work.
They were down on Third and Townsend in San Francis, Les Go working for a place called West Coast Ship Chandlers.
Speaker 2It's now lofts, and she was a secretary there.
They met.
Speaker 3They bought our first house with it because they won a Keno ticket in Tahoe.
Speaker 8No no, what.
Speaker 3Inner sunset for twenty thousand dollars?
No way, yep, nineteen seventy one or nineteen seventy.
I was born in seventy one and then she got a job as a secretary at a staffing firm, rose her way up through the ranks of the business like working girl style.
Then quadruples buys the company, quadruples it in size.
Speaker 2Wow, and just sold it like four months ago.
Speaker 1No way, your mom did all that.
Speaker 3Yep, And so now like this, you know, we used to again, we needed kenot ticket winnings to buy a house growing up, and they didn't make much.
Speaker 1And so.
Speaker 3Now it's just I was the only one of the three brothers, being the eldest that even remembers like.
Speaker 2Any sort of like struggle.
Speaker 5All.
Yeah.
Speaker 3And then naturally, right from College of USF, I went to Cawpalli in Silesis, but I didn't love a business major, transfer to University of San Francisco and then became an HR major and then worked from the age of nineteen to thirty two r AH in HR firing and hiring people.
So I fired over a thousand people.
Speaker 1Oh my god.
Speaker 2Yeah, if you ever need a can anybody let me time, I'll come over.
Are you here for the podcast?
Speaker 5No, I'm here for you.
Speaker 1No, I'm here to end your career.
Speaker 2Yeah.
They all deserved it.
That's the thing is people say, horrible bosses.
It's really horrible employees.
Speaker 3There's been a cheating everywhere, right, fudging time, cars, showing up late and get in fights.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, you can't remember a time where it was someone where it was like hard for you to do it because I didn't deserve it.
It was always someone that doesn't they.
Speaker 3Oh, I'd say ninety percent of the time they deserved it and I warned them not to do it again, right, Or it was like an extreme situation where like two Samo and guys gear getting in a fight in a warehouse.
Yeah, yeah, and it was hilarious because I'd show up, like twenty three years old, going, hey, fellas, understand we were throwing some fists in the warehouse, so I'm gonna need to walk you both out.
Speaker 2They're like massive men.
Oh that would be yeah, that's great trying have to fire people that were sharpening pieces of metal as I was firing.
Speaker 1Were you did you do that because that's what your mom was specializing or did you have a certain like I can fix this problem.
Speaker 2Hr specific degree that's what well?
Speaker 3No, well, well yes, and that helped.
But we were staffing other people's companies, so if we worked for you.
We'd employ every single person in including yourself.
It's actually a great deal because you don't have to worry about HR.
So you probably have an office manager right now that does your payroll and all your benefits stuff like that.
Speaker 2Then you need to put I'm selling the company.
We sold it, but it's outsourcing you.
Speaker 3Just like you'd outsource your legal you can outsource all of your HR if I employ everyone working at your place.
So it's called a professional employment organization, and so you don't have to deal with any of that stuff.
Speaker 2That's great.
Speaker 3And you want to hire a new person, you go, I need three more people.
I just start placing the ads and bringing the people over.
Incredible, So we said, I want you to meet these three folks.
These are my top three candidates.
Take a look, and then we put them on our payroll working at your place under your direction.
Speaker 1So you basically got a degree so you could go into the family business exactly.
Speaker 2I mean, I hated it.
Speaker 3I was crying in my car because I was firing people like I had fired over a thousand people.
Speaker 2At some point.
Speaker 5I was miserable.
Speaker 2So I started doing stand up at twenty eight.
Do you remember the me and brothers, Me and Mike, Me and Funniest.
Speaker 3They were across the street from me in the Sunset District, so I grew up seeing and Michael Pritchard lived down in the Blanc.
Speaker 2At one point I didn't I just was talking to her about it at Largo.
But Margaret Choe grew up on twentieth the Nerving around there, so I knew what I was like.
Comedy was in the water.
I would listen to Alex Bennett every single morning going to high.
Speaker 1School and the Channel nine Alex Bennett's stand up show.
That was like local stand ups where it's like the first time I saw Dexter Madison or you.
Speaker 5Know Whoopy with toasts, you know those.
It was at Great American Musical, remember that?
Speaker 2And that was on the local.
Yeah, you'd see it on KQ.
That's terrific.
Speaker 3So we had a ton of stand up and a bunch of cool places, a bunch of cool local comics.
Speaker 2I knew it was a thing.
Speaker 3I always wanted to do it, but ahead of kind of put this dream on hold because this thing that meant everything to the family.
But eventually knew if I was going to turn thirty, it was over.
There's no, starting this after the age.
Speaker 2You could, but it gets weird.
Yeah, an interesting idea for a show where you, yeah, you catch the warehouse on fire because you want to end the business to start your comedy career, call it reason for Arson.
Ever, did you ever get to hire anyone or only five?
Oh?
No, we were hiring a ton of people.
Speaker 3Yeah, So it's just I was kind of really good at the problem people because it was so nice and honest about this their situation, right, And I'd explain to people, go, this is just like a bad relationship.
You'd be doing a great job and showing up on time if you were happy to be working here.
Speaker 2Yeah, right, clearly you're not meant to be doing this.
And cool, I'm this is good.
Go find a better job.
You like, Yeah, this is a new beginning.
You're free.
Speaker 1But you do realize that this the whole movie up in the air that George Clooney is like, that's the whole movie is about.
Speaker 3I could have done a million of those terminations.
He was firing white collar employees.
I was firing people that wanted to meet me in the parking lot after I've been choked chased.
Yeah, yeah, a guy put he put a like a physical therapy, like one of those sticks that you use people like they're stretch.
Speaker 2With or something like he put that up to my throat.
Speaker 1Wow.
Wow.
Speaker 3At that point I had done eight hundred of these.
So I was like, all right, man, you can have two choices.
You can hit me with a stick, and if you do, I'm gonna be pissed.
I'm gonna press charges and I have the cops coming.
You're gonna be arrested.
It's not gonna be great for you.
Or you take this check in my jacket pocket and just walk away and like, what's.
Speaker 2It gonna be dude?
Yeah, And so people like I was able to reason with a lot of folks, have that pocket check, pocket check.
Speaker 1Always hold the pocket check in your pocket.
Speaker 5Check.
Speaker 3Listen, you could beat me up, or you could take this pocket check and still beat you up.
Speaker 2And yeah, so I would have mentioned the check right away.
There's a check in my pocket.
Please he beat me up?
Is that bad a hr ing?
I can't say hr and nothing of the lead singer from Bad Brains.
Speaker 3So I did that and started doing stand up, and then stand up kind of took off and I went through the steps that we all go through with San Francisco Comics with you know Cobs and Tom Sawyer and the whole gang and Huck.
I remember at the back of the punchline.
You had to sit at the back of the punchline as a new San Francisco comedian for like nine months.
And I remember him coming up to a group of three of us, that's a professional.
Speaker 2Is it your Yeah?
Oh, I thought it was Karen's sister.
I did do because she gets through because she's in your favorites.
Speaker 1She yeah.
For some reason, I can't block her from calling every day at four thirty one.
She I'm like, yep, it's Wednesday.
We're recording vodcast.
Speaker 2Yeah, like I'm sorry, yeah every time.
It's been a while though.
Speaker 1But al, did you live in your parents Uh?
Now, I want to say the West Portal house or was that like your parents?
No, we're successful.
When we got this house, that.
Speaker 2Was the thing they were trying to keep me stand up with.
Started to take off.
I started getting auditions down in La I went to New Faces.
Speaker 3But I was the eldest son, supposed to take over this family business, right, So then my mom said, Hey, so we're going to buy a house.
Speaker 2So they were trying to get me to stay.
They were throwing a lot of incentives, Oh.
Speaker 3Got it to keep me up there because they saw that, you know this is right, I'm two thousand and one, two.
Speaker 5Thousand and two.
Speaker 2I was a new face at Montreal.
Speaker 3And then they bought the house like a month later after they saw that things were starting to take off.
Because my dad would yell, I mean, this is why there's a lot less it's changing, but Latinos and Asian people in Hollywood and show business is because if you tell anybody you're going to be a stand.
Speaker 2Up and work for free, right like, you get yelled at.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's very realistic.
Speaker 2You know we need to be My dad would scream at me.
Speaker 5He goes, where are you right now?
Speaker 2I go, I'm driving a Sacramento.
Why the w are you driving right?
Speaker 5Oh?
Speaker 2I'm opening for this is a real conversation.
I'm opening for Louis c k Who the hell is that?
At the hen he goes, is that a realist?
Speaker 1Name?
Speaker 6An?
Speaker 2I've never heard of him.
He hadn't learned to anybody, so that was pointless.
And then he goes, you know how much of gas costs?
Speaker 1Huh?
Speaker 2How much are they paying you twenty five bucks a set.
Speaker 5It loses his mind.
Speaker 2Yeah, like you should be here.
We're giving you this business.
I don't understand.
Not funny, it's so funny.
Speaker 5I think you can do this.
Speaker 2That is usually this story.
Speaker 1Why do you believe in yourself?
Speaker 2Yeah, right that I feel it's the makings of that lights of fire under your ass to prove your parents wrong.
Well, yes, I've been so lazy my whole comedy career because my dad always kind of wanted to do stand up and he totally supported me.
Speaker 5Oh, you need to really excel.
Speaker 2You need to somebody to just squash all your Yeah, I doubt it.
I doubt suck and there's no way you can pull this off.
Right, I'll show you.
I'm gonna go down to La I'm gonna be something.
I'm gonna play detective four times.
Yeah.
Speaker 1The first time I did the improv, I got on that Monday night showcase and at the improv, the one that was on Mason at Downtown, and my dad was his firehouse was in Chinatown, and so he came and everyone they pretended that they were inspecting the improv.
Oh, and they just double parked like outside on one of those one way streets and came down and stood in the back and watched me do stand up, and everybody else was just like, oh my god, there's something going on, and I'm like, it's not.
My dad is actually like basically testing the waters of like what I'm saying I'm doing versus what I'm actually doing, Like are you actually good at this?
Or are you like making a fool of San.
Speaker 2Francisco Chinatown Fire Department?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 5Why when are we doing that podcast?
Speaker 1Right?
Speaker 5I mean the stories that I could tell.
Speaker 1That's It's the problem is that every other word is somehow casually racist, Like it's the thing.
He's from the generation where everyone's like, well the German was over there, and then this everything is based on where people are from, and it's like my grandfather used.
Speaker 3To put my dad on the counter of the North Beast restaurant when he was a toddler and give the bartender fifty cents to watch them and then go underground into a tunnel and gamble and underground.
Speaker 1Chinese in Chinatown.
Hell yeah, yes, that's it.
I mean, wait, did your parents, your dad's family had had a restaurant in North Beach.
Speaker 2No, he didn't just at a restaurant, at a restaurant.
Speaker 3My dad, my grandfather on the Italian side, because I'm half Mexican half Sicilian.
On the Sicilian side, we owned the Buena Vista place at the cable coat price.
But then my grandfather had a gambling problem and the mob came in with a picture of my grandmother and said, you're gonna be selling us this spar Holy.
Speaker 1The Buena Vista is still there.
It's one of the most famous bars.
It's right by Fisherman's Wharf down to they invent yeah, right, and they invented the Irish coffee.
Speaker 3So mom's maid name is Tarantino, and so there's all like Tarantino Alioto, like they all came over together.
Yeah, so it's a aliott is a big San Francisco family.
Speaker 5And you go down to the wharf to this.
Speaker 3Day that my mom won't eat fish because they had to eat it every single night for dinner.
Speaker 1Yes, and it smells like you're in a world that always smells like fish, just like you can't.
Speaker 2Get Oh yeah, well your dad and that Chinatown like fire department.
Speaker 1WHOA, Yes, they saw some things, they definitely saw They saw some things for sure.
And it was like the stories of you know, they used to do a crab feed every year.
Every firehouse in the city did it on the same day.
And the reason it stopped sometime in the early seventies is because there was a huge fire and every they were all drunk.
Everybody on duty was ship faced from like their crab feed or whatever the thing was that they had the same party, so they like basically it all went totally ship face and they were like, this is now not allowed.
Speaker 2Right, that's that's those things you really end up in an orgy or the lobster ones.
I have told it before that people drink too much when they're eating shellfish.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's a reaction.
Well, it's so funny that that you would be sick of that because driving down my parents always had dreams of living in San Francisco.
My dad was like a Bay Area dis jockey.
And then when I was bourne, we went to Montana and they just had all these stories of that part of the country and we'd drive down there and that smell of fish was like something I was so excited by, Like we would go there just to smell it.
The city used to be super cool.
Speaker 3Is there's still parts and in restaurants and neighborhoods that are gonna intact with, you know, like all things.
It evolves everyone's nostalgic for when they were twelve and right right around on BMX bikes through Golden Gate Park.
Speaker 5It was awesome.
Speaker 2Yeah, and then so it was a really cool place to grow up.
Speaker 3I actually went to a French grammar school called Notre Dame de Victois because the means misses me and gotten a fight with the principal at Saint Anne's and so we'd have to take the cable that like ends you to den of the cable card then walk up like fifteen minutes on foot.
And I remember the means forgot me one day.
And so I was in second grade and I was a seven year old and my mom had to.
Speaker 2Go to work.
Speaker 9So she looked at me and she's like, hey, they forgot you, but you can do this.
You know the way, right, you know the way?
And I go, I do I know the way?
I know the way, and she from a pay phone, no.
Speaker 3I just she was still like ready to go out the door and pick up they were supposed to walk by and grab me but they forgot me, and I just did it by myself.
And then once I knew I could do it by myself as a seven year old with a forty five minute mute and two transfers.
Speaker 5We're going just do that by himself.
Speaker 2Like, can you imagine, like she might get arrested?
Speaker 1Oh today, Jesus, Like even this suggestion.
Speaker 2I can't believe you're alive to tell that story.
Speaker 1But also like I feel like if there's a town to do it in, And maybe I'm just just biased, but it is that kind of thing where it's the kind of town where like people would be like rooting for the seven year old, you know what I mean of all the I used to have to take the bush.
We lived in the Upper Hate, and I of course got a job at a shop in the Marina, so I.
Speaker 2Had to take every bus every god I.
Speaker 1Mean, it was insane.
I think it was the eighteen anyway, it was the longest, craziest bus ride.
Speaker 2So what were your San Francisco years that I was there from?
Speaker 1I moved to LA in ninety four, so I was in San Francisco from like ninety one to ninety four essentially, and we and I worked at the Gap in the Castro that was right on the edge of Castro and the Mission, and we lived in the upper height and it was all my roommates from Sacramento.
Everybody got out of Sacramento and went to transfer to San Francisco State, and I flunked out of Sack State.
So I was like, well, I'll just go and do stand up.
Speaker 2Wow, that gap is what started my credit card debt.
Speaker 1Did you get a gap credit card?
Yes?
Speaker 2And I didn't.
I've never had a store credit card.
I didn't know I did.
I just wanted a discount on a pack of underwear.
Yeah, And it went unpaid and it turned into this whole many many, many late fees and then it became hundreds of dollars.
It's such a nightmare.
Speaker 3When I was at cal Poly, I wrote a check for a sandwich.
Oh that's great, and then closed that account because I was leaving.
It was Tinder, but it didn't time out.
That check hadn't cleared, so it just ruined my.
Speaker 2Credit for ten years.
Just a sandwich.
That's the same thing.
Yeah, I don't remember remember the details, but it really ruined me for a couple of years.
Speaker 1This pack of underwear one time I wrote myself a check.
Is I only had like seventeen dollars in my bank account, so I wrote myself a check for five dollars and then took out a twenty And I told my mom that story, like I had discovered some great way to handle my poverty.
Yeah, and she was like that is illegal, just like explaining to me, you just committed actually a crime.
You better put money back in there right now.
It was insane where I was just like nobody talked.
I didn't get briefed on any Yeah.
Were you the eldest, No, I'm the youngest.
Speaker 3Oh, but you'd think that they'd have a the shit together at that point, right, No my parents, Yeah, no, in terms of briefing the.
Speaker 1Kids on that, we were briefed on nothing.
And it was like it was a real suck it up mentality of like lucky to get.
Speaker 2Eye contact in some homes.
Yeah, my parents weren't the best with the information.
Speaker 3I think when they seriously dropped me off at cal Poly and s Sandlus, like no one helped me set up my room.
Speaker 2I just got dropped off of bags and they drove away.
Well, if you're a seven year old, that can navigate across and Barca Darrow.
He's probably going to be able to figure out a dorm room.
Good Also, just that I did.
Speaker 1It's such a high pressure moment where because we would make my mom late for work every single day, and just that moment of her being like, I'm not gonna be late, So you're going to take on this incredible journey goodbye, like you gotta do it?
Speaker 5Crazy?
Speaker 3Can I do a brief commercial for a kid two kid scoops of Dacree ice please, let's.
Speaker 2And let's do characters?
Speaker 1Okay, kidding?
Speaker 2The kids scoops aren't just roky are you coming?
And a dog?
Speaker 8They don't check the roxy to see if he's a child in there.
And you know it's like this, you won't sound like a kid, but your mother a kid.
You're bat my boys, I like to get at sure.
Bert said other places, my call it Sorbit.
Speaker 2Not Sydney Sweet.
Now I'm turning into Triumph Sydney Sweet.
So again I believe there was a Sydney Sweeney poster.
Speaker 3They're doing Dubai chocolate bars, but dak Ree Rainbow Srbert combo at thirty one flavors.
Speaker 2Delic and kid sizes right size, right kid sizes the right size.
I'm saying that anybody getting a small or a medium or it's too much.
I didn't even need this whole bar.
Well, I'm worried about.
Speaker 1Sound, I know, but also that's so rich, okay, right and very rare.
Is that the end of your ad?
Speaker 2Yes, my bar is too sweet?
If you could believe it or not.
Is that what Dubai chocolate is?
It is too sweet, it's too crunchy.
I feel like it's causing cavity.
This is the worst biggest fears.
Speaker 1This is de influencing people.
Speaker 2And I started with a slight character, but it was just Chris Fairbanks with stuff in his mouth and then as I swallowed, I came back to my normal self.
But it's almost like, you know what I mean, like so sweet that they're just straight up sugar.
Part is is masking the taste of chocolate.
You both got the same thing.
Yeah, yeah, And do you like that a little bit more than Chris does?
Speaker 1I think I do.
It's but it is like there's a lot going on and this do buy chocolate.
That part of it, it feels like that is the pistachio.
But then there's like spiky things in there.
Speaker 6There's hike.
Speaker 1There's a crunch aspect to it that is surprising.
Speaker 2Yes, and there's a layer of butterfinger or something.
Speaker 1Yes, I do you buy but right that I didn't ask for and that I don't want to buy finger, just like it's real human fingers.
Speaker 2We didn't ask for it, yet it's there.
Yeah, I have to say I'm not a big sweet guy though.
Oh see that I was boarded standard chance.
Saying that has rubbed people the wrong way.
It's like I'm being up you like, speaking of San Francisco bringing its full circle?
What about it?
And it's it?
Speaker 1Oh?
Just beloved in my family.
I started buying my dad It's it merch a couple of Christmases ago.
You can get a hat, a baseball hat that says is it It's it with the big picture of the ice cream sandwich on it.
And I gave that to my dad for Christmas, say, five years ago.
Everyone he goes.
Every time I wear it, people ask me where I got it and how.
Speaker 2They get it.
Speaker 1There's like a whole it's it merch line?
Do you know about that?
Speaker 4No?
Speaker 2What's it?
Oh, I'm new to town.
I'm a visiting for Fisherman is.
Speaker 1Well, you should meet my ad character friend who can tell you all about the It's.
Speaker 2It Hidola, I screamed so much.
Else I love them kid and Neapol.
But do you also like oat meal cookies?
All take one and given him me?
And do you like coffee ice cream?
Speaker 1Stop?
Speaker 2And ice cream?
Chocolate ice cream?
More original Vanila?
I like three of those, maybe even mint cheap getting the hell?
You know what you got to open with mint chip?
That's like a check in your pocket.
Speaker 6You're at the eat eat eat.
Speaker 8Im all those things.
And then it's not just that we have the ice cream sandwich.
We dip the entire thing in chocolate, so it's a chocolate ship.
Speaker 2Oh I just realized something.
I mean that you're mid character, but I'm in a panic.
Uh there's a plumber going to Al's house in in seventeen minutes.
We gotta go back, Yeah, we gotta go back.
Okay, sorry, Alan, it's for your best thing.
This guy would be twiddling his thumb and his white truck pissed off.
It's okay, let's take our time.
Speaker 1Basically, somebody in San Francisco invented an ice cream sandwich with gigantic oatmeal, cookies and the whole thing wrapped in chocolate.
And you can get them.
I guess you can get them everywhere, but they're very popularity.
Speaker 2In the right.
Armenian pizza what does it even mean?
Speaker 1Wait a second, what is all that cilantro pull.
Speaker 2It's just they're advertising several things on the same window.
I think they have pizza and Armenians for sale there and cakes Partisi and I just wondering as we come up towards the end, I admit something to you years ago when we did the Hash Wednesday show at the Improvo.
Okay, I'm Leaco and I'm Leak and I'm I gotta get this bag.
Oh yeah, now you're gonna have aunts in your house.
No, everything that's under control.
I we I thought, I think we got high.
Who are the guys that we were performing with?
It was Dan something I have no idea.
It was two Bay Area guys.
I drew that severed hand holding a microphone for the show.
Yeah, we were just getting to know each other.
Speaker 3That's the other thing is Chris is one of the very first people that I met when I came down to La and so I knew probably through.
And I do remember Martha Kelly and you and myself like hanging out at the improm right, and you were trying to hit up Daniel Tosh for Taco Bell Gifts certific It's oh.
Speaker 2That's so funny.
Yeah, he did, like probably a commercial campaign for them.
You gave me work.
You employed me as an artist several times.
Oh yeah, and I will never forget that and stop appreciating it.
You actually paid me like I was a professional artist.
Speaker 5And know you're you're in credib wars.
Speaker 3You did an album cover for me a long time ago, and yeah that maybe my first one was drawing.
Speaker 2It's great today.
Speaker 3I made stickers for me that we Yeah, we ended up making stickers and all kinds of questions.
Speaker 2In the back of that car though, I was so nervous because the guy's driving.
They were getting high because I was the theme in the show.
Everyone was getting high.
I remember details you were smoking parliaments back then.
I was in the back seat.
I was so high and paranoid that I thought we were going to get pulled over if I told them I had to go to the bathroom and I tried to pee in a bottle and right before we got to the improv, I dropped it and the PEED was all over the backseat of that car.
I whoever was driving h they were of Francisco Common, Yes, they at at some point they're like, did someone pee in the back of my car?
Speaker 1That was me?
Speaker 2That was an entire gate Rade bottle of P.
I dropped it.
I didn't say anything because I was high in paranoid and I just want to get it off my chest.
Even though it wasn't your car.
I don't even remember doing it, like it was a show.
Speaker 1There's no problem.
Speaker 2And Guyle bay B and Dan not Dward Gabriel, Dan Gabriel.
It was one of their car.
I think was Dan Gabriel's car had P in the back seat because of me.
Dan Gabriel, if you're listening, sorry, you know the source of the urine?
Oh god, it was me, said years later.
There's so many things I flashes of and I'll just be walking on the street and I audibly sigh yeah and feel regret that was one of Well that's the eighty HD.
Yes, I think it is that.
You just gotta let that stuff go.
I've been it's a long time ago, so okay, yeah, it really cares or remembers.
I haven't gone and din't care.
Then.
No, they were so high.
Remember we got pulled over on the way There's and they were like, oh, we're just smoking, like everyone knew to just light up cigarettes.
This was when weed was still very illegal, and I'm like, I'm going to jail.
I just moved to the Hollywood.
Speaker 3That's so funny is because I must have learned very quickly after that that pot and stand up for me did not mix.
No, So I rarely did that, So that must have been a once yes and forever.
Speaker 2No, it was I think you were going to use that thing.
I drew for many shows, but after that night we were like, oh, I couldn't remember who I was or what my jokes were.
Most never do that again.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, some people can do it, like, oh, no problem, Doug Benson, no problem, it's like the best way.
Speaker 2But no, no, not me.
Speaker 1I wish I could have figured though, when you just talked about hook that you had to sit in the back of the punchline and Hawk would walk waiting to get on.
It drove me insane.
It's one of the reasons I moved to LA It was like kind of early because I just started stand up.
But I was like, I can't do this shit where you just show up to be kind of mentally tortured so that you can say dumb shit for seven minutes.
Speaker 3I was just like sing with me having this business background and firing all the people.
So they approach me and these three other guys to two other guys and he goes, all.
Speaker 2Right, I can give each of you guys two or three minutes.
Speaker 3And then I put my hand up and I go no, and he goes what and I go no, I go I waited in the Macau's room for nine months.
Speaker 2I'm not waiting for I'm not getting up for two minutes.
I got let me know when you have a full spot.
That's great.
Then he was like whoa, all right you guy see and then he goes out narrator.
He goes, all right, I'll give one of you guys seven minutes.
Who wants it?
Speaker 5And I go, I'll take it.
Speaker 2That's all right.
Speaker 5Great.
Speaker 2The other two guys were like, what just happened?
Yeah?
Sorry, hr Warehouse ten years shift, Yeah, choked by some omen Yeah, once that happens, you just that's your advice to every new comic.
What I do is I pretend there's a check in my front pucket every time I deal with a booker.
Speaker 1So awful.
Speaker 2Oh that's great.
Speaker 1They get you so nervous before a set that you're already so nervous.
Speaker 5To go do.
Speaker 1Yeah, so torturous.
Speaker 2Well, I hope we haven't made ulated for this.
Uh.
I don't know that the work was.
At least it's not a stranger waiting for you.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2I feel bad that my wife is there.
I just don't want to leave my wife got a friend for too long, right, right?
Speaker 1This is important work driving around for no reason getting ice cream in a.
Speaker 5Car that was delicious.
Speaker 3By the way, that's the best company expense, right, that's yeah.
Speaker 5Can we your business manager?
Speaker 2Can we talk about this?
Speaker 5Uh?
Speaker 2Thirty one flavors run.
Speaker 1I'll be like, we got al madrigal in our hands now.
Speaker 2I'm just that's not that, it's just, uh, did you guys have a kid with you?
Because I'm sitting here on the receipt child scoop.
Speaker 1Yah, we picked up a couple of kids, so.
Speaker 2You get some instead of it?
There, Yeah, you get arrested for kidnapping out a tacks on it.
I swear it was.
They give the cups to adults in any world.
Speaker 1I grew up in Okay and because all we gotta go.
Speaker 2It was great to have you and great.
Do you want to do?
Speaker 1You want to plug anything?
Speaker 3I'm going I don't know when this is coming out, but I'm going to Toronto on September twentieth, every people who up in Toronto.
I'll be doing stand up there.
And got a couple other TV shows coming out which is exciting.
Detectives or Algebra Plate Now it's just a dad computer.
Both things I'm working on right now is an actor a computer programmer in both that's yeah, wow check behind the.
Speaker 1Desk typecast and in a way that's evolving.
Yeah.
Speaker 7I like it.
Speaker 5I love it.
Speaker 1I like it.
Speaker 2We're proud of you.
Speaker 1Yes, we're very proud of you.
Thank you.
Speaker 2It beats being choked by some moens.
Speaker 1Just remember.
Speaker 5Later.
Speaker 2Thank you.
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Speaker 1Our senior producer is Analise Nelson.
Speaker 6Mixed by Edson Choy.
Speaker 1Our talent booker is Patrick Cottner.
Speaker 6Theme song by Karen Kilgarriff.
Speaker 1Artwork by Chris Fairbanks.
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