Are you leaving?

I you wanna way back home?

Either way, we want to be there.

Doesn't matter how much baggage you claim, and give us time and aid, Terminol and gay A.

We want to send you off in style.

We wanna welcome you back home.

Tell us all about it.

We scared her?

Was it fine?

Mal porn?

Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Do you need to ride?

Do your need you ride?

With Karen and Chris?

Here we go immediately, get ye.

Something tells me this is a good car to get red.

I think this car knows what it's doing.

It's a good thing to start with.

Sech Does that make you comfortable?

I believe that if you're not putting it in.

The universe, you're taking it out.

That's right.

Yeah, I do feel well at first.

Like you said, I think this car feels very safe.

And you know I've been rear ended before.

It's not that bad.

It's loud, it's really it's startling.

It's much louder than you want to experience a sound.

And so then for me, that's really what gives me that lets shakes me for hours, if not days later.

You hate surprises, you know.

Yeah, I'm volume.

I'm trying to put on a brave face.

It would be pretty scary.

It'd be day ruining if we got reared.

I'll do my best.

This is already I'm this is going to be I think in the history of this podcast, we haven't done a cold open.

I think that will consider it that.

I think that was perfection where it's like on topic and very natural.

It felt good because usually we pull over and wait and there's you know, I do my little intro and it usually sounds like, hey, welcome to Do you need a ride.

I'm Chris Fairbanks and I'm Karen Kilgarrith.

And then we go and then we drive for a little bit and then we pick up our guests.

But today, uh.

You every ladies and gentlemen, you've seen him in the clubs and colleges across the country, put your ears together for Zach Oyama.

Hello.

Y Yeah, I'm so thrilled to be a part of this podcast and also the first cold open.

That's that's yeah.

Yeah, it's history making the wikipedia we've been we've been tinkering with the format.

Yeah, it will man add that to your credits on that resume you keep sitting around town.

Yeah.

A fear is I'm so afraid we don't have a Wikipedia.

Yeah, we'll get one.

Can I tell you something very embarrassing on the topic of Wikipedia's immediately?

Yes.

So I do comedy whatever with a group of people.

We all do a D and D show together, and I realized I was the only person who doesn't have a Wikipedia.

And then I just I was like, can I just make it or get someone to make.

It or something?

And and then I found a Reddit thread that someone sent me where a bunch of people were earnestly engaging with the fact that I shouldn't have a Wikipedia, people who were like on my side.

And like me, going like, he just doesn't make the cut?

What the Wikipedia cut?

You stumbled on that googling yourself?

I mean I could have.

This was just a friend just sent it to me, and it was just sort of like, oh, thanks man, oh.

Friend, a friend that wanted you to feel bad about yourself.

So maybe it's there, maybe not.

I haven't checked what were some of the reasons you shouldn't have I.

Think there's like there's something to do with the amount of press that is specifically for you, and so many of the things that I've ever mentioned in is as a for a group of people or drop out the platform or whatever, and so I just I guess I haven't given enough one on one interviews about things.

That's funny.

I thought it was all based on our IMDb star meter.

Yeah, it could be.

Mine could also be why.

Mine's been well, mine's gone on the downy.

You're trending down?

Yeah, sorry about that.

I gotta get out passing role in another cat food commercial.

I'm a I'm a very big fan of the whole Dropout family and I feel.

You need each other and it's a good thing.

Yeah.

When I first saw a very important people early on, like a couple of years ago, when when they were just a couple posts in on Instagram, I did a little deep dive and have watched it develop and I'm such a fan of the shows you've done.

What's the game show play?

Well, there's Game Changer that makes some noises that makes Yeah, so they're kind of you know, I love it?

Will you tell us about each one?

Sure?

So?

Well?

On drop Out there's Game Changers show that Sam hosts that's like every episode is a kind of a different premise, so it's like hard to hard to describing that, Like, each one's pretty different, and it's usually kind of like you stumble into like a weird prank on you and uh and that's can be fun and then make some noise was like a spin off of that, which one of the episodes was just like kind of short form improv things where it's like the first one was like, you know, do like pig and you were like, okay, what are we doing.

It's like you realize you have to do an impression of a pig, and then it gets more in depth and elaborate, like someone had to do like a thousand Batman's or.

Yeah, one that I saw with you.

They they intro you and it's like a cat wearing boots for the first time or something, and you know that you have to act that out.

Yes, like the idea of knowing that you have to clear your brain and be ready.

It's just been so long since I've done improv.

But I love the it being rather than being a group on stage saying hey, give us suggestions or whatever, the short form stuff.

I love that it's disguised.

There's an interview show.

Yeah, very important people.

It's so great and you we're great on that, oh, thank you.

And the game shows.

It's so fun to disguise improv as the other show formats.

Yeah, I think it makes it more palatable for people who are like maybe not or don't feel like they would be interested in watching just an improv show, right.

And it's great for me because I can show up pretty blank because I feel like that's my just resting state a right.

But uh yeah, I feel like they've done a good job with that, you know.

Like on very important people when they're putting on like your makeup, like you had that thick necked superhero.

Yes, it was like a it's like.

A workout influencer that wanted to teach people about mental health.

You didn't know.

You don't know what they're putting on you.

When do they show you in a mirror right before you yeah, right before, Like it's like hours of makeup with your eyes closed.

And then I know Alex, the person who does the makeup for it, I've known for years from like back when drop Out was college humor like doing.

Stuff with her.

She also actively was tricking me where she was like saying to the other you know, makeup people like can you hear me the horns like whispering just in a way that I was like me with my eyes closed, I'm like, ah, she messed up.

I heard that, she said.

And so I'm like, when they show me, I'm convinced I'm going to be like a minotaur, like a big like you know, bull creature.

And then I was just sort of a really strong man.

Little ears, yeah, all those little yeah, little they put very real ears on its head that wear that they're one inch tall ears.

Yeah.

It was the best, and it's important to show that, uh process, like the reveal and you kind of having a moment to brain storm characters, like it helps with the entire show because like when I did at Midnight, for example, they make you think everyone's just ringing a buzzer and coming up with the material, and so it makes you think as a comic at least, oh, they probably at all night, yeah, to write stuff, but no, you show up and you have like an hour.

I don't know how this second version of.

I did it once and it was similar to that where it was like you kind of sit down with a writer for a little bit.

Right like but only like an hour.

I was rushing to try and write jokes for each thing, and I was like it was hard.

It's like, this should be part of the show because it's not easy to do.

That to come up.

Yeah, I think what you're saying makes a lot of sense.

Like it's like it makes people more on your side to know that you weren't as for me, yes exactly.

Which also I think you're right is the playing around with the actual structure of an improv show so that people don't have to get that feeling of like, come on, give me an example of a nurse or whatever where you as an audience member from home, Like if you're in the room, you're like, yeah, we're all in this together.

If you're at home, you're like, I'm not in this.

Yeah, Like you don't have to like be confused as much.

Yeah up top, Yeah, yeah, people always yelled nurse.

Then a non geographic look at Playboy Mansion.

If I the amount of times beyond nurse in the Playboy Mansion blew my mind.

But also, like you describing that makeup person tricking you, that's diabolical, Like that's the person who gets the assignment times one hundred totally that's hilarious.

I was like, gooder than a friend?

Is this the person that forward?

Did you that you're not worthy of a Wikipedia article?

Same person it easily could have.

Yeah, it was like, okay, now I know a little bit more about you in a way that.

Is that where you started at college?

Humor?

Yeah?

Yeah, like, well I guess like the first thing, you know, I'm from Alabama and I moved here how a million.

Years ago now.

On the first job I had, I was working on key and Peel as like a PA.

And then that's great.

It was such a fun place to like get started and seeing what LA is like, and like you know, taking comedy classes at the same.

Time, and then at UCB.

Yeah, at UCB and uh.

But that show holds up so I mean like crazy, like I see the clips on TikTok or entire sketches where you're just like this was groundbreaking and genius when it happened, and it's like getting better.

Over time way too.

Like it really is funny the way you can just sort of, oh, there's a very cute dog looking at us, or just letting the wind.

Let see that dog should have the crooner the little cigar.

Yeah, like, I mean, it's shocking how much I will just stop and still watch one when they like come up in a TikTok or whatever.

Yeah, they're so good there.

But I worked on the entire run of that show, and I was like, I met Jordan on a movie, well movie in Georgia that I interned on prior to that, and I would just drive him to work every day, and that was just it was just really funny to see how he worked and then just hear him be like I think I'm gonna do a horror movie like okay, and then that be what he did.

And it was visionary, yeah, insane.

Yeah, and and so you know, from there, I eventually was like, you know, learning so much about sketch, and then college Humor, which eventually became Dropout, was like, you know, just sketches really, and so I submitted as like a sketch writer performer there and I got the job.

Justice Kpi was in.

Oh that's great.

I did not know that Dropout was college humor morphed from it?

Yeah, what was was there a part of college humor that was like commercial based?

Yeah?

You know, what's funny.

I think I remember when I was first starting there.

I feel like you maybe did you ever do a video with them?

That's when I'm just now stumbling.

I didn't do a lot of common college humorous stuff, but they did, like I did this survivalist thing.

It was like Derek Trex I think Survivalist and it was for a speaker I did.

It was so fun.

I remember I vaguely.

I feel like I remember that because there's like a wing that would do that sort of thing that was like slightly separate than us, and I remember that happening around the.

Same time I walked probably right by your desk, wondering where to go.

Yeah, it's a confusing building.

Yeah.

The guys that did that did that that American vandal.

Oh yeah, other thing they've done a bunch of then.

But U or Dan, one of the guys was on that murder mystery in the White House, Yes Residents, which is very good.

Yeah, but yeah, that's that's I've I've been in your bill.

That was the whole point.

It was, Yeah, and it's it's just funny that like it's the same company technically, you know, I don't know technically speaking what like, because it's all sort of above my pay grade.

How that transitions into that.

But the new.

Version of it I feel like is so, you know, it feels nice to not have like a weird corporate entity over it what it used to have and feel a little more independent in a nice way because Dropout is its own website that you subscribe to.

Yeah, you subscribe.

There's it's you know, it has like a subscriber based like a kind of streamer kind of thing.

Sure, but yeah, it's a little more like I don't know, it feels weird to say boutique, but yeah, I guess.

That's described it.

Well, No, it's like.

The So how did they get rid of the I mean, you said it's over your pay grade.

I think it was your idea.

So would you please explain how they got rid of or what that was like, because that's great.

As best as I can explain it.

They they had the idea for like a streaming service.

The first iteration of it was, you know, like they were trying to figure out what worked, and there was a lot more scripted stuff on it as well as like game Changer and these kind of nonscripted fun game things.

And then after like a year or so of that, it kind of iac like this.

You know, the company that owned college whom or owned it, they wanted to sell it, like they weren't They didn't think it was like working, and there were like these like layoffs and stuff, and it became like a very small company and like kind of over the pandemic, like people discovered the tiktoks of it.

And also a big part of it is this Dungeons and Dragon show called Dimension twenty.

That we do, yeah, and and so people were just all kind of discovering.

That and it became very popular and it's weirdly grown to be, you know, way bigger than it ever was.

And just like this new, more like nonscripted focused version of it's all when they laid people off and it got kind of sold from the company.

I think Sam that you know, Sam Raish, who is like the CEO of it, technically bought it and made it his own thing.

Cool.

Yeah, that's great.

I'm trying to think who else we had on that was part of the Dungeons and Dragons.

Brendan Lee Mulligan is personal who like runs it.

And then a lot of the people who are in this sort of cast are just like former writer performers from college humor who have like and brought backgrounds and stuff, and then you know, so it's like a very comedy focused D and D thing.

Yeah, And also he's just like Brennan is sort of a weird D and D genius who's better at it than you know, He's better at that than I am at anything.

So I feel like I watched a clip if this is real, I watch the clip of him being the dungeon master?

Is that the correct term?

Ye, I'm pretending I'm not a nerd when in fact I do this every weekend.

No.

No, but him being like getting people into the story, and it was like, was that forget it?

Why am I being like I saw a random picked one time.

It was about dungeons.

And drags tracking so far, you know, like very easily.

And the point is that the guy that was a dungeon maschl was amazing, like just pulling you in and making you understand kind of what you were supposed to be, how you were supposed to approach the game, which is cool.

Oh yeah.

From the beginning when kids were doing that, I'm like, wait, is there's theatrics?

Do we act these things out?

Should I?

Bring a costume like when invited as a kid, Yeah, like eighties.

Dungeons and Dragons.

I wasn't ready to perform in that way, so I was that's what scared me.

Yeah.

I mean it's so embarrassing for the most part, but it's also like you kind of I mean similar to improv is super embarrassing, but like you kind of can push through it into it being fun.

Yeah, right, because everyone's doing it with you.

Yeah.

Yeah, and if you like all commit to it, it can be good.

You know.

Do you still get like when someone puts makeup on you, like for very important people, are you terrified like I would be, but still excited?

I think so.

Yeah.

Like it's like.

I feel oftentimes with improv, I'm like I feel like I'm forgetting how to do it.

When I'm like driving there, I'm like, do I remember how to do this funny?

And then like really start doing like oh yeah I remember how Yeah, Like it's fine.

Once you get Once you're doing it for five minutes, it's like, oh yeah, why did I doubt myself?

Exactly?

Yeah, It's not as hard as I'm making it, so yeah, but you know, I definitely get anxious about performing me too.

And I've done stand up like twenty five years now, and it's still it's not until that first laugh where.

I'm like, oh, yeah, I know how to do that exactly.

But that drive to a show?

Wait, did I forget?

I can't even think of one of my jokes right now?

What do I just kept driving and someone else, Yeah, drove off to your new life.

Yeah, you're on your way to Irvine, a damprov and then you just keep going.

You want to get away?

Yeah, hey, Zach, do you know karate?

Well, this is funny.

You should ask.

It is.

This is a bit of a setup.

I can talk.

It would be crazy if it wasn't a research and I read the research.

It's made the Wikipedia come up.

So yeah, well, I mean, like I grew up doing my dad is friend Japan and moved to the United States to teach karate, and he and his brother and another guy were part of like this like very very well known karate organization and they were the three guys charged with bringing it to the United States where they the bad guys from Sorry you think of a group of karate guys and yeah, those were like white blonde, Yeah, those were surfer no, it's fine.

He hates karate.

He can't even like it, just like gets a moll rild talk about its hilarious, but he uh, you know, like they were charged to bring it in the States, and like his brother had like an awesome dojo in Manhattan.

The other guy, I was in Chicago and my dad got sent weirdly to Birmingham, Alabama, which is where I'm from, and uh, and so he.

Opened a chain together.

Yeah, pretty much.

I mean there's like there's a couple of them still, but yeah, I mean I just wondered if you practiced or if you did it as a kid and then kind of stopped.

Doing it or that's pretty much what happened.

I'm you know, Uh, it's like grew up in Birmingham, Alabama, where there's like kind of no Asian people, and went to like kind of an all white school and was like, I think it was just too embarrassed to really embrace doing karate.

Like I feel like that there were like two other Asian.

Kids at my school, and one of them's family had a Chinese restaurant or I guess three a Chinese restaurant, and then another kid had their family at a time restaurant.

And then another kid's parents were rocket scientists, so in Alabama.

So that's like all the racism from an eighties movie exactly all once.

And my dad did just grit and so yeah, you're just kind of walking into it a lot.

And so I definitely did it growing up.

And like and one summer like prior to going like going into I think senior year of high school, I like went to Japan for the whole summer and trained the whole time and like and that was you know, like formidable memory memory, and like, uh, did you have to compete?

You know?

I like I only did some more like casual tournaments and stuff.

Like the real serious tournaments were so serious that like my dad would be like, you can't get like you haven't not trained hard enough for that, which is I think probably a good thing.

Yeah, but I bet I bet rumors went around that guy's a black belt.

That's what.

No one ever messed with you.

I would I would love to embellish how people thought of me.

No, I mean, like my people definitely thought my dad like that.

Like he was like so serious about it, like he would every demonstration he would break like giant ice blocks oh, like six stacks of like huge pieces of ice that like, I don't know, I think if you did it wrong, you could easily break your arm.

Oh sure, And like I feel like I.

Could find a YouTube video of it at somewhere that like rage, it's just like slow motion videos of him breaking ice.

Does your dad have a Wikipedia page?

I think he does.

You know, it's funny.

My dad is in get Out.

He is he's the one Japanese guy and get Out.

If you remember this sort of auction scene, oh wow, the Jordan was shooting it in Alabama, and like instead of trying to cast a Japanese man in Alabama, he had met my dad on set once and was like, with your dad from back in the Keyn Peel Dance.

He remembered having met your dad.

Yeah, and he knew he was like, you know, two hours away.

And so that's my dad's, you know, sort of film debut.

How was he in the movie?

I think you did fine.

You know, it's just funny.

I'm probably gonna judge it in a different way than everyone because I know my dad does not understand the words he's saying at all.

But but you know, he's like every time I talked to him.

He's like, got a residual.

It's terrific.

Man.

Did he have lines?

Yeah, he had he had one line I think about where he's like.

I think he asked it, like something about like how cosmopolitan it is to be like would you say, God, I'm I'm misremembering what it is.

But it's just something about the experience of being a black man or something like that, where it's a you know, just something that I know is not in my dad's head.

He didn't improvise.

This was a line that he read.

Yeah, that's so great, that's very cool.

But yeah, I mean he's still doing it.

He's eighty three years old.

Wow.

Wow, you know, just in great shape.

I feel like he could take any other eighty three year old.

Oh for sure.

Perfect.

That's all we need.

Just old that you can fight each other.

But that's it.

Don't bring that to anybody else.

Wow, that's so cool.

Just love.

And what if the only experience I have is if there's a wrong number calling my house in the landline days, I would always answer and say karate school, and then the person would be confused.

And that's my only brush.

Yeah, that seems like you're pretty experienced.

Yeah, well people usually hang up like just mentioning karate school and they get a little intimidated.

I'm not gonna try and steal this sell in the vacuum whatever.

Yeah, it's one of those things where I am not a black belt, and I wish I stuck with it, just because you know, it.

Would make it orange.

Huh orange.

You know they all have sort of different color, you know, tears.

But I was a green belt with a brown stripe and that goes into brown cleanly brown to black stripe.

But so pretty close your dad.

When you were like, I'm not all that interested in getting a black.

I think we never had that specific conversation.

It was just sort of like the writing was on the wall about like he was.

He was honestly like happy when I would just be like exercising.

Yeah.

And so in high school I started playing lacrosse, which is something like it sounds more like jock like if you're from anywhere other than Alabama where it got.

There when I was in high school.

And so it was just like a whole team of people who were terrible and didn't know how to play, and we would like drive to boarding schools in Tennessee and Georgia and just get destroyed and then just drive back, and so he thought that was good.

Yeah, at least you're getting out there.

Yeah.

Yeah, I've never I don't think I've ever lived somewhere where lacrosse was happening.

Yeah, no, really, okay, Yeah, I don't know any I don't think I've ever seen it except in.

Those eighties movies that I mentioned.

Yeah, where are you all from?

Again, I'm from Montana, and then spent some time in Austin, Texas, and then.

Oregon a little bit and then here cool.

Yeah, I'm from northern California the whole time, the whole time except until seven, Yeah, until seven, until the southern and we didn't have karate.

We didn't have a clarate studio when I was growing up, but there's definitely one now because I know my niece's best friend got her black belt when she was like ten or eleven, right, and it was one of the cutest things about all time.

It was just like the best feeling or I'm like because in our because basically when we were growing up, it was like you can play softball or I think basketball, it was like it's so it was very yeah, man.

Yeah, I like a solo compete against yourself sport.

I was always nervous to do team sports.

Yeah, I think that's what cut me away.

But I do enjoy saying you're better than this to myself.

And I'm trying to think, like the last sort of sporting experience I've had was like as an adult doing sort of like a wreck dodgeball league, and it's just kind of the worst version of myself, if I can be honest about.

The experience there where you're like you're adults being like I.

Hit you and you didn't go out right, and it gets really competitive.

Yes, I did a little kickball last year and it was I didn't like the person I became.

Yeah, I threw a ball at the back of a girl's head and then screamed, you're out.

They didn't even the team didn't know you.

Could throw the ball at each other.

And I was froughing just like yeah, and I'd bring an extra shirt because inevitably i'd rip mine from the center incredible health.

Yes, okay, while screaming in your face.

I mean that's the kind of like signing up for like co ed wreck team of anything is very vulnerable.

I think unless you go in with eight friends, like that's really like.

It's just a wide range of people.

Yes, because we were like it was co ed, and it was like so many people were friends of mine who were like, that could be fun.

I don't know, I've never done that before.

And then there are people who were like, I played baseball in college, and I'm gonna whip a ninety mile per hour dodgeball at your face.

And get it all back.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I didn't like.

There's other teams that took it really seriously, and the team of comedians was not taking it.

Seriously, so I'd be frustrated that we were losing.

I don't like losing, and I didn't know that because I avoided the team sports.

We were like the comedian team, and they would always say that to us in a way that we were like, we're not funny.

We're gonna beat you right right, Yeah.

That's actually not our defining characteristic.

Yeah yeah it's not not.

Today.

I can put my comedy aside to become an aggressive.

But you're still throwing that red ball that makes that gLing sound when you're hit.

So it is inherently funny.

It is, can't get away from it.

It might be funnier.

You're being super serious about something that dumb.

No one prepares you as an adult for how hard it's going to be to kick a bouncing red ball.

That's coming forward to you.

No one tells you your knee is going to possibly bend the wrong way because it only children are good at kicking those balls.

It's really humbling.

And then how often do we sprint?

Like I work out, I try and stay.

I skateboard a lot.

I don't suddenly running out of fear of being uh out it by a ball hitting you.

I would the next day I couldn't even walk.

It is so easy to hurt yourself.

Now, I'm like, I have like an ankle doctor's appointment tomorrow because I'm like, I think I slept on my bed weird and my ankle's hurt.

You been playing any dodge ball?

I had to.

I had to stop.

It was too much, actually very cleanly.

It ended with COVID and then it was like, oh, yeah, I'm done with that.

I think then you can just tell them you have long COVID so you can't just like I've really.

Shut down my own career.

Yeah, I and so I've just been pretty sedentary since.

That's okay.

You gotta focus.

You gotta focus on drop out and injuring yourself in your sleep.

Tossing aggressive tossing and turning.

The comforter was sort of you know too or I guess the fitted sheet or the sheet over that was just too tight and my ankles are ruined.

Honestly, that is the most.

You've just explained so much why I come limping out of every hotel.

Yeah.

They it's just too tight and I'm nothing to do wrong enough to simply rotate my foot and tear those sheets free of No one's strong.

Enough, That's why they do it that way.

Yeah.

And then I'm walking like a duck for a week or a pigeon, depending on how I lay.

Yeah.

Yeah, you know like interior exterior.

Oh wow, and you really are going to a doctor tomorrow for that.

I'm honest, I'm very honest and about this.

This is just like I don't know if that's what happened to me, but it's one of those things where I'm like, well, some thing happened.

Both my ankles.

Hurt and and you weren't conscious for the event.

Yeah, it has to be a bed.

It's that or just walking up a hill or down it.

Those are the three options right now, I.

Was either asleep or out in the world.

So if you can solve this problem for me.

Yeah, I can't wait to just give that harrowing story to the doctor.

If you could excel at any sport in the world, like one wish sports based, what would.

It be like to like a professional level or Yeah, I think I've thought about this.

I think the one that.

As a you know, as I've getten older, probably I would have to say golf.

I don't really play golf.

I just think that's what you can play into your older age.

You're right, Yeah, it's just like everything else.

I think I would again feel scared that I'm going, even if I'm awesome at it, I'm gonna, you know, snap and half snap and half.

Yeahs so funny because I could tell Karen got a little quiet there because I golf a lot, and I try not to mention golf because nothing.

Is more boring from a distance then playing golf.

That is talking about it.

But that's something I picked up after childhood during quarantine because it was the only thing you could go to childhood and during child right there there was a twenty five year gap, and then during quarantine.

You're eighteen years old, right.

Yeah, I'm a kid, and I hope them when puberty eat hits, I still know how it.

You never know, I can really throw off your center crop.

Yeah, I'll have to get rid of my kids clubs.

My dad just visited and he's obsessed with golf and used to play it and loves to watch it.

And it's like he watches it just like other people watched football games.

And it's kind of hilarious because it's really soothing and you don't have to pay attention to it really, And so my cousin Kim and I started watching it with my dad and then we were like picking our guys getting mad on their behalf blah blah blah, and it was like, it's it's the funniest Oh what have I done?

We've done this before, we have done this before, we've done this.

Remember I accidentally and got a bunch of printing done.

That's right, that's right, you got to go through it.

I remember those paling twister so many days.

Just let me gun it so I can buster.

Of course, there's a wow, how.

That car came out.

It just about just.

Clamored out of a bush.

I think, Yeah, Unfortunately, I do think golf is my I Also the other recent interest I have is like never really was interested in basketball, but now like I just suddenly watched like four basketball documentaries.

And so have got on board.

Yeah, and I don't know that could be fun.

Yeah, just late in life to suddenly realize you got game.

You're going, Yeah, you never miss You're just the legendary.

I mean that's a that's a that's the premise of a movie that it would have been twenty five years ago.

Yeah, it's it's, uh, what's your sport whom.

If you could be really good sport?

I not to.

Be boring, but you make the best point ever, is I see my dad, who also is eighty three, going out three or four times a week with this Yeah, his age appropriate buddies and they hit balls and it's really his it's his exercise because they walk.

You know how many eighty three year old men, your karate dad excluded of course, are going out and doing like a seven mile hilly hike several times a week.

And it's social.

I mean, there's down time for talking, not with me.

I'm always focused.

Everyone better shut up.

I am putting.

I don't want to hear about your dirt, and I am a monster out there.

But uh yeah, I very realistically in my life golf.

But if it were to be any sport, of course, I would like there's nothing cooler than slam dunking of basketball and the NBA and all of that, like one that actually comes with fame and fortune.

I would want any sport that's paying the most not to be you know, greedy, greedy, thank you.

I don't even I'm not greedy.

I can't remember the word.

I'm so not greedy.

I can't remember the word the words.

Words are not a loss for words because I'm so not greedy.

The list, but I can't think of it.

I think, yeah, we don't want to be punished for being good at the sport that you are at, Like.

Going back to lacrosse.

I remember when when we were just playing in high school, they would say like that, A lot of the pros like had other jobs, Oh yeah.

Like mine.

I don't want to do that.

I've been midlife crisis skateboarding a lot, and a lot of the pro skateboarders.

I you know, they get free clothes and stuff and they sell them to pay the rent, you know.

Yeah, And I go into Crossroads and I get all their their rent clothing and it's it's such a bummer.

So many of them do top pros that are in magazines and in the videos, and you would think, oh, they have a Nike shoe deal, they must be doing great.

One of the top pros also.

Does refinishes bathrooms and has another business, or they like, you know, they drive Uber.

It's really because there's so many people that are good at them now, and I think everyone just thinks, oh, if you're a pro skateboarder, you're rich, like Tony Hank Yeah.

No, only that was the video game, you know.

Yeah, So imagine all these other sports like team sports that, yeah, lacrosse, it's hard.

To destroys your body.

Yeah, I would not, Karen, what's your sport?

What I do play?

I mean, I think, uh, I didn't have an answer when I asked you guys the question.

I was like, I don't care.

But in thinking about it in that same way, I think the the old lady version of old man golf is tennis.

I would love to be able to like be.

One of those Melanoma tan old ladies that's just out there, like who can get it across like consistently get it across the net and but talking at the same time, and then like now we all go drink Bloody Mary's at the pool or what you know.

It's that kind of I think also because I grew up out in the country around a bunch of farmers and it was very four each based lifestyle.

So like that was a very in town country club kind of lifestyle that was nothing.

Nobody I knew lived like that, and I think it's super chic now where I'm like, you know, you go on vacation, you could just go hit the tennis ball around as as your you know, exercise whatever.

Yeah, and it's fun.

There's no if you go play tennis and hit that's very hard even if you don't know what you're doing to not have fun.

Yes, And it's one of those sports where it's like you're tricking your body into exercising.

Yes, all you're.

Thinking about it, Oh, I got to go over there and hit that ball, but your body is like, oh man, we're running.

You don't know, I really really need that you really need to be tricked, tricked to death.

Although wait now that I'm saying this, I have played pickleball and I love it, and I think that is the current real old lady version of tennis.

Because it's slightly shorter, you're not doing as much.

Yes, you have to.

Like the thing I hit about tennis is you have to hold it slight the racket like a little.

Like a frying pan, which I was always really frustrated by two and then very limited tennis experience I had.

It just doesn't It's like I thought we were hitting it like a ball in a bat.

Now you're telling me that everything has to be slightly turned, and it's all very like.

Telling me this right, you're just telling.

Me I didn't grow up rich, and I'm already embarrassed about that, so forget it.

Well, that's what you think.

That's what I always thought about golf and why I didn't want to do it in high school when there was whispers that I had done it.

There were people were whispering.

They gossiped about you playing.

The eighties version of Wikipedia.

But they I whispers.

I thought it was just to night like villains from all the movies.

I grew up watching and LA municipal golf has been the I've never met such a wide variety of people.

It seems like there's a lot of like, you know, it doesn't feel as kind of country club as you know places can be in La where there's just like a lot of really beautiful public courses that I.

Dreamt by, Like there's or whatever exactly, there's comedy and all these other things I do.

There's nothing that was going to introduce me to eighty five year old Korean couples who are now my friends and.

I tech Thursday like and they are my friends.

It's the beautiful thing.

Yeah, it really is.

Not something I expected happening.

It's really kind of cool.

Wow, that is a sick playground.

Oh yeah, like American Gladiator.

It looks like four stories of a slide.

Man.

I wish we were more mobile and miss Mobile podcast so we could go potton slide just thrive over.

That looked like a McDonald's.

Pretty normal if we drove over and sort of hung out.

Yeah, oh totally weird.

All yeah, we'll just stroll around, each of us with our hands in our pockets.

Misslinglenses recording.

WI talking to each other holding up our collar like it's a secret.

Oh that's great, yew, that was.

An elaborate I don't think people know about that slide system back there.

No, that's for rich kids.

And Burbank for sure, that was that was amazing.

The thing I always think about Burbank that that reminded me of is this is somewhere around here they filmed that show.

The floor is lava.

Oh, yes, like it's in the husk of the old ikea.

Is that true?

That's what I heard, and I just I can't think of if I were to be on any sort of reality competition show, that's the one I want to be on.

I went in for an audition and the people that were auditioning, the hosts, were huge fans of our podcast.

No, no, that's why I was in there, and I it was just a meeting talking about so I wouldn't even call it an audition, but they acted.

Like I already had it.

Of course it was.

Years ago too, and I when they were describing it, I'm like, are you guys kidding?

Like it's it didn't sound like a real thing, And I think that maybe it was based on a on a Japanese it seems.

There were so many good Japanese game shows that they started ripping off the when you had to go through the hole in the wall, remember that one.

It's like a specific kind of shape.

I like, where you have to climb and beat a bunch of people up some vasoline covered stairs.

They all slided and hit each other, but.

The floors law.

But I found that organically on regular television.

I was like laying on the couch from night, flipping around or for what I remember, it was.

On Netflix or I think it's on Netflix, Yeah, Netflix.

But I found it just like not knowing anything about it, not hearing Elise, and I was like, you gotta be kidding me.

And then I started watching.

I thought it was the funniest thing I've ever seen.

I mean, I know, there's one episode that has three adult triplets or you know, we're just one set of triplets and they're all just this kind of weird guy, and uh, it's really really tickled me.

And the fact that they when they go under the lava, they don't come back up like they edit it like they died.

Yes, it really makes me.

That was something.

When they were talking about it, I'm like, wait a minute, it's what are we I just kept thinking of doubled there like it was this red goop that because it wasn't figured out yet that they're just clearing green screen areas on the floor.

I imagine, Yeah, it's something like that.

I was not upset about not getting that.

There's been so many things, But now I really wish I had gotten the floor's lava because.

That makes me think that the first episode I saw was like mother, daughter and brother like, so it was this weird family who were acting like they truly were in peril.

So it was like a very like.

This is good but also stressful, where it's like this isn't fucking real.

You're not going to die bubbling slimy water.

You're literally all pretending right now.

Well, maybe they thought the stakes were higher because there's certain people, especially in Los Angeles, that think that negative emotions come from aliens that are hidden.

OK.

I'm not saying anything more.

You've you've I'm sure I had to bite your lip before saying something in jest that the Franklin.

UCB, the street Boy, I've gone for a couple of brunches.

I knew they couldn't crack me.

They have free sandwiches.

One time, yeah, one time I went over there.

After there was like a a street festival or you know, like a block party.

That's the word, a street festival.

Sure, and they like let people just like come in, and then I did.

Truly, I was like I had taken an improv class and it was just like everyone in the class.

After the class show went over there and it was like we walked in and four seconds later I was by myself getting a stress test.

Oh no, I like to a machine.

I don't know how I got so swiftly separated and it was very stressful.

Well do you think you were targeted?

Oh?

For sure.

So I feel like anyone with a cold could probably easily grab me.

That's what I'm worrying.

Yeah, I'm like, I don't want kind of as I've done.

After five minutes, I'm like, actually, sounds great.

You know what, You're talking a lot of sense right now.

Go back to the Hollywood job placement hear.

That sounds terrific.

I don't have to come up with my own schedule.

Okay, someone will pick me up.

And we're saying this the contract is for ten thousand years.

Okay, that's stability.

That is fucking job security finally promises.

Oh that's so great.

Yeah, I got out of there, luckily got out of there.

But if you guys want to join me next Sunday over.

There, I'm out, but I do continually go back weekly.

I do love a pancake breakfast.

I don't know if they're doing anything like that, I will join.

I used to go to a youth group on Wednesdays for the free spaghetti.

I already know you can loot me in with food, mom, there's just tofu in the fridge.

So I started going to an afterschool high school youth group.

And ended up liking it.

But when the Bible and stuff had come up, I just kind of pretended I drop.

Something under the table for a while.

Sorry, trying to down there, trying to find you, Zack.

Do you have anything to promote?

I think the biggest thing I would love to promote is that the Dimension twenty, the D and D group that i've we are doing a show at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas November One's day for Halloween.

Amazing.

There's a lot of tickets left, very large venue.

If you are looking for something fun to do, the weekend of Halloween.

Why don't you go to Las Vegas and want your show?

Here's excuse me if I just throw around some of my experience here.

That theater has two giant TV screens, so you're gonna love it.

Any subtle, nuanced, funny moments, they're going to be zoomed right into your face.

There's giant plasma screens.

I need that.

You're going to wonder why it's going so well, it's because they're zoomed on your face.

Had something to look forward to?

It did?

I don't get a lot of the other theaters.

Okay, I'm back to me.

That was like a subtle who was But it's true.

That's what's great about that place.

I'm not kidding out.

They have giant screens so perfect.

It might be.

I don't know if you're doing any recon but make sure that those cameras.

Are on and they use those screens, because they will.

You're going to well, I don't know the rehearsal.

One one walk through three years ago.

I went open for Daniel Tosh and I would struggle because I just wanted to see him and I understand what it is.

And then that gig all of a sudden, I was doing great, and so I went to just look at the audience to see what was different, and I noticed there's huge screens and I'm.

Like, oh, they can actually see me.

Yeah, as I stand holding the mic stand without moving my body an.

Entire set, which is you know.

So it's gonna be great.

Oh, you guys are gonna kill it.

Thank you.

I'm very excited.

It should be really fun.

It's our last show of the year, so that's a great way to end, Like, really, tee it up.

I think so.

Well, thanks for thanks for having me and go to drop out dot tv.

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Yes, I love I'm a big fan.

I's glad that you were going to be on the podcast.

Yeah, we're our podcast.

Are big fans of of that entire network?

Yes, And and now that we're done with this episode, I'm.

Glad you were on the podcast.

Oh man, so it went all the way I feel in the middle about it right now.

Yeah, we do good.

I forgot I'm sorry.

I forgot to plug that the three of us will be on Flora's Lava next season episode.

The team No one can be on the Flora Lava.

They're soaring through this course.

We do human ladders, we do last minute saves by the hair.

It is nuts and we theatrically pretend it's terrifying.

Yeah, you're gonna real.

Three triplets on the.

There's infighting, there's confusion.

We at one point where a large sweater with three that's what mommy and Daddy wanted.

Thanks so much, Zach for thanks for having means you've been listening to Do you Need a Ride?

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