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Yes, in today's episode, it's getting business y and the g r C we are the busy Menie uh, We're gonna be talking about the Emmys with Joel.

The Creative Emmys have happened.

The real Emmys, as people may say, the main primetime Emmys are coming up.

Shot me, cut me, cut me, cut me, guys.

I will probably maybe win a Primetime Emmy one day.

Sorry guys, Warner Bros.

Versus AI.

Finally, Aboo will be joining us for that summer streaming wraps.

Joel will be back, and Common will be joining us, and then of course we will end with thank Galactus.

It's Friday.

Everyone will share what they're most excited to do this weekend.

But first let's welcome super bruder Joel to talk about the entertainment, the busy meeses, Heymmys, which are coming up in a few days recording this on Wednesday.

The Emmys will grace your TV screens this weekend, and let's talk about the Emmys mainly.

Does anybody care the Emmys relevant?

Does anybody care?

What's up with the Joel?

What's up with the Emmy?

Yeah?

Let me give you my standard shpiel on award ceremony.

I went went on NPR, I got my asstituded out for my thoughts on this, but I'll show you them here.

I think award ceremonies are really important, but not for any industry reason.

I don't think.

I think it matters on two fronts.

When it matters if you are at all interested in entering this industry and you have no idea where to start.

I feel like my whole film education started because of the Oscars.

It gave me just a starting point.

It is not the end all be all of an education.

Frequently, there's a lot of reasons why people get nominated.

There's a lot of films that get dismissed and overlooked, but it is a great place to start in education, and so I think that's important.

And then I also think they're important because, especially for your fringe actors, that's your actors of color, your openly queer actors, etc.

If you secure one of these, it can be extremely helpful in making sure that you get better profit margins.

Not always.

We all know Halle Berry really struggled after winning her Oscar.

Yeah, there is an Oscar curse.

But on occasion, these things can happen, and I think that's really beautiful.

I also think, just from a communal perspective, it is like Listen Awards started as a way to like sort of diminish union power, which blows.

But also when you come together as.

A community and you get to celebrate each other's works and stuff, I think that.

Could be really great.

I don't believe in a best of strategy for a wife so many awards thoughts.

I think best of is stupid.

I think you should do superlatives.

I just wish every year we'd be like most inventive, craziest use of blood, like just can't make it.

Yeah.

Also, like that's where.

Those kind of great you know, ensembles can come in as well, Like if you do that because okay, so Joelle.

For people who don't understand or aren't aware, there are actually two emmy yes, oh like award shows, right, and we just had our first one, which was the Primetime and Creative Arts Emmy winners, and that I think was maybe surprising to some people because, for example, they revealed the Outstanding Guest Stars, even though some of those were some of the bigger name hits.

So we had Merit Weaver who won for Severance.

We had oh Sean Hatosi, who if you love Zero's Horror or nineties horror like the Faculty, you will know as Sean from the Faculty.

He was in the Pit.

He won Outstanding Guest Actor in a Drama Series, And most notably and most talked about was Brian Cranston winning Outstanding Guest Actor in a Comedy Series for the Studio.

I believe the Studio won nine Emmys at the Creative Arts and Primetime Emmy.

So could you talk a little bit about the difference between those and what people could expect to see when they watch the Emmys that will get televised compared to these Emmys, which include such things as like Best Made for TV Movie, which rebull Ridge run, which I thought was really interesting.

Yeah.

So Jason, the guy currently holding his Emmy, it's very interesting to be here, winner.

Well, I wanted to say that one thing.

I semi agree, and I do understand why I am pr roasted you a little bit about your take it, but I don't disagree.

I don't fully disagree, but I will say this when I was up for when I was nominated for the Sports Emmy, so let me just be clear.

It's a Sports Emmy, which is the.

Potentially the easiest one to win.

When I was up for the Sports Emmy for me and my co creator Jason Gallagher for NBA Desktop, we got some really good advice from you know, a producer who has produced a lot of stuff, and he was like, you know, we were like, this is fun, but like what is it?

Does it really matter?

Like is it really a big deal?

And he said, listen, here's the thing about the Emmy is being nominated or winning.

Once you're there on that level of you're getting nominated for stuff or you win, you immediately in the eyes of quote unquote the industry.

And this is why I do think it is important become a real person, like a real figure within the industry because now in all of your bio stuff, in the first paragraph, it's gonna say Emmy winner, blah, blah blah, and.

It's kind of a fake thing.

It's kind of it's obviously like a form of inter industry marketing and a very self congratulatory type of dynamic, but it's also true like after that you end up getting meetings because you're Emmy winner blah blah blah.

And yeah, when you say that in a meeting, suddenly it feels like it really helps bolster your feelings of like imposter syndrome, because now you've got this thing that says, oh, you did a thing that people react is an actual thing.

Yeah, because you have, in order to.

Get nominated, like enough people, because the voting pool for the Emmys is gargantulan, so like enough people have to like have seen your stuff, liked it enough, known a little bit about you, and then you have to win the overall.

Like it's a lot of efforts eat just to get nominated, I think.

And so yeah, I can imagine that that sticks with you.

It'll be like the first thing in your obituary, Like it's a huge thing.

I also think, you know, there's something kind of interesting to me about nominations.

So I wanted to ask you guys, with the studio being number one this year and projected to be number one overall by the end of Sunday Night.

Every time there's a show about making movies or television, people have very strong feelings about whether it's appropriate to be Is this just Hollywood's joking itself?

Is this?

I think it's a really well made show and super funny, and I liked it, But I was curious what your guys' thoughts are on shows movies that talk about the industry and then are celebrated.

I think that the reality is that that is like, you know, coming out in LA and being like, why is it sunny?

Like that Shit's always gonna happen, like it's happened throughout history in every single award ceremony.

The Oscars loves a movie.

Think about the ARTI the artist, you know, movies that take over.

I think the bigger issue is and I love the studio.

I actually think, honestly, I think it deserves all the accolades because I just think it was so well done.

Technically, it's hilarious if you live here.

It is a very in the in the kind of weeds and inside baseball of everyday life in LA.

But the issue I have with those kind of nominations, is they only ever really center on one group of people, which is white people?

Because when Dolomite is My Name was made, which was.

You know, this is my biggest platform scream ever.

I'm like, this is an excellent, nearly perfect film that nobody talked about.

Unbelievable comeback performance by Eddie Murphy in a dramatic role, Charlie.

Class role, I think, or the movie's dedicated to charge.

Yeah, so beautiful.

Also like one of the most beautifully put together costuming departments by Ruth Katta, Like that movie was filmed in guardian A cinema.

That movie is about a true rebel and weirdo in Hollywood, And if that mill had been about white Hollywood, then it probably would have gotten nomb And I think that is one of the biggest snubs that, unfortunately for me, makes it like that's when I start having an issue with the inside Hollywood.

Like we got really great like young new actors, returns of old actors.

It's crazy.

So yes, I totally take your point.

I just really wanted to quickly also talk about our close calls and see where you.

Guys are landing ones.

Okay, So Variety put together a list of their closest.

Calls, and this is what they came up with.

They said the most difficult races to predict are leading acting categories for limited series, which are coin floats between Colin Farrell for The Penguin and Stephen Graham for adolescence, and then for the women Michelle Williams for Dying for Sex and Christi Malatti for The Penguin.

Between those two, where do you think the Academy's gonna land?

And where would you land?

I think the Academy is probably I love Michelle Williams, She's great and everything.

If they're going to pick between a genre show that is based on comic books or something that's based on a book about a woman who's dying of cancer, they are going to probably choose a woman who's dying of cancer.

I don't think that Milotti is going to get it for killing a bunch of people in a beautiful, beautiful ball gown, but I would love to see that.

Malotti is my pit.

But I think Michelle Williams is probably going to get it.

I think that's probably right for the very obvious reasons.

And I think similarly, but deservedly.

Stephen Graham is going to.

Win for adolescents.

Yeah, he will, he.

Will, and I think and I think, by the way, that's.

Deserved because he's unbelievable.

It's not just uh, you know, in the thing, but he is the creator of the of the series and it was probably one of the most emotionally harrowing.

Yeah, and also talked about and important you know, underline piece of like show or anything really that came out in the last calendar year.

So I think Stephen Graham's kind of gonna walk with that one.

Yeah, I think I love it.

Let's do one more and then we'll get out of here.

So there are other close call categories include the Supporting Drama Actor, Severance actors versus the White Lotus actors who are splitting the category, or Supporting Comedy Actress.

Five of seven omnies appear to have a path to victory, and guest drama actor character actors versus established actors.

Who do you think comes out on top?

Severance and the White Lotus both had huge years this year, really talked about series, both had big growth in audience views.

Which one do you think will come?

And HBO, who frequently has led in most wins at the end, isn't even like predicted to be in the top two this year.

I think they're looking at eyeing number three.

So curious you think Severance at Apple TV?

Is this a new.

Streaming era or should we go White Lotus and there and keep it traditional with HBO.

My thought is yeah.

My thought is that Apple does not reach these heights very often critically, and they've got more money than literally every other company on Earth.

And I think if they cared about playing the f YC game, they could throw a rounding error type amount at FYC promotion at Severance because this is their chance and that they should win.

So I think it's going to be Severance if Apple knows at all what it's doing and is playing the game correctly in any capacity at all time.

I agreeingly Weird I really wanted to win.

I agree, though, I do think that for some of the academy who probably haven't actually watched Severance, I do think that White Lotus has the beautiful locations, the good looking stars, the easy on the eye.

It's HBO, it's their Sunday show, So I think that it's going to be closer than we expect.

I do think Severance deserves it, because I did think this season of White Lotus was really incredibly written and had a lot of kind of interesting tropes I enjoy, like the Revenge through La Trope and stuff like that.

But Severance is just such an utterly unique show.

I would love to see it.

You know, get those wins.

Let me just before we leave, do you guys?

This was a big conversation topic of conversation between me and my friend Abby, who is another fantastic journalist when we were away on a work trip recently.

Should there be a limit on how many times shows can be nominated at something like this?

I think that there is an argument for it because a show like you know, the Bear, which gets nominated a million, fourteen times every time?

Is that taking away opportunities for other shows like Interview with the Vampire.

Let's not forget what Modern Family did to that race for so long?

What a mess?

Yeah, yeah, that's kind of One issue with The.

Bear is not its continuous nominations.

It is its existence in the comedy, where it is, you know, actually taking opportunities from actual that have jokes in them, like it is not.

I don't think capping is necessarily the right solution for this.

Just get them out of comedy, put them.

To worry about this, Yeah, because I'm I just think a lot about Jacob Anderson and Sam Reid and interviewing the Vampire, and I really feel like post season two that should have been the time that they were getting the nominations, that they were getting recognized, and oftentimes when you have the spected shows that there isn't necessarily like a lot of space left.

Also, Joelle, can you quickly just go over what Variety's top ten most winning networks are because it's kind of insane if we compare it to ten years ago, because it's just all it's Yeah, the projected dominant streaming services.

They think Netflix is gonna win, which at one point in time was not impossible.

That's crazy.

Apple TV, which again to Jason's point, doesn't usually do well.

They're predicting they're gonna walk away with twenty four.

They think HBO Max will hit third with twenty three, so really tight race between one, two and three, and then way down to the list NBC with eleven, Disney Plus with six, Peacock with five, FX, ABC and CB.

Sorry Peacock FX ABC with five CBS and Prime Video with three Prime Video given the fact that you Netflix and Apple are your main.

Competition, gotta get it whipped in shape over there, hot mess.

Yeah, I know.

Crazy that there's such a big drop between three and four and NBC is off first like Lennear Network that we get on it, which is predominantly gonna be for Saturday Night Live.

Anyway, Joel, what's your big prediction.

Uh, My big prediction is scarcely.

Prediction is the views will continue to go down until we can figure out how to make award shows better.

I think Matt and Bowen.

Hey, iHeart fam did a really interesting thing this year by creating their own show with what superlatives.

They were not concerned about years or time frame or anything.

I would like more award shows like that.

Please.

Here's my prediction, Matt and Bowen will be producing the Emmys within five years, absolutely correct.

Take a break and we'll be back.

I'm gonna be talking AI.

And we're back.

Let's welcome super producer Aboo to the program to talk about the latest ongoings in the legal battle between some of the entertainment's biggest studios against mid Journey an a company that you may be aware of because of their ability to produce images that look exactly like or very similar to images from Warner Brothers, Disney, and so on.

Boo, welcome to.

Hi, super glad to be here.

I'm also an AI agent.

By the way, if I say anything today, it's just it's a hallucination.

It's not.

Okay, cool, understandable, I get it.

So, yeah, what's going on with this case?

So the news that sparked this discussion today is basically, Warner Brothers has joined in on this copyright battle that other studios are currently having with mid Journey.

Mid Journey being the AI image generation tool, and Warner Brothers has sued mid Journey basically alleging that the platform knowingly creates these images of copyrighted characters.

Right, Superman, Batman, Bugs, Bunny, Tom and Jerry.

You can just ask mid Journey to make images of those characters that are Warner Brothers property.

And the other two studios that have similar lawsuits against mid Journey are Disney and Universal.

So we're talking big, big, big Hollywood studios going after interestingly sort of like a mid size AI company, right, this is not the big AI companies that most people think when they think AI, this is not a chat GPT lawsuit.

This is not a Claude or a Google Gemini lawsuit.

Yeah, that's the interesting thing to me.

I think it's from the outset.

Mid Journey has been at the front of generative AI imagery and I think like we have seen the quality of that grow.

And I also will say the note about this specific lawsuit that is really interesting is really a question of mid Journey's argument that this is fair use, because what they show multiple times in reporting around this lawsuit is like if you ask them to make if you ask mid Journey to make like a gritty Batman, it's essentially just a still all a Warner Brothers movie.

That's the biggest issue is they are.

Also examples example live.

The examples that are in the court filings are even I think more or even stronger than that, because what we've seen in the core filings is people have put in like the prompt will be something that doesn't even mention the specific character or ID will just be like classic comic book battle.

Yeah, then it will produce Batman verus Superman looking like a still from an animated you know, DCEU DC animated series, And of course part of the problem is these things are Yeah.

I think the CEO is quoted in several of the stories that you can read about this talking about like how they just had their large language model, large image model, whatever gobble up everything that's out there on the Internet so that it could digest it and reproduce it according to the prompts that are used.

So yeah, I think the part of the interesting thing to me is that this feels like this feels like the first move.

Right.

You go at the company that's one not as well funded, not as big, and that is really creating stuff that seems to even like the lay person like oh yeah, that looks exactly like Batman, that that looks.

Yeah, and.

Target them to get hopefully a win on the books so that you could then go at chat, GPT or Claude created by Google some of these bigger players and then try to force the concessions from them.

Okay, let me ask you this a boo.

Is there also a world whether reason that that, because this to me, you know, all of this feels a little bit late.

If you've been in the AI conversation and been going, hey, why aren't these big companies season assisting them.

We know Disney season assists people who put Winnie the Pooh on a kid's gravestone.

Like, why aren't they see some assisting this?

And I think for a long time time the assumption was, well, they want to find a way that AI can fit into their business model and save their money.

Right, is there a version of this?

Why the reason that these companies are suing mid Journey is because they want to settle and use mid Journey within their own companies.

Like, do you think there's a version of it where that is what they're aiming for here?

Because you guys are right, this is not the biggest name to go after.

Yes, And I think that's another aspect of this rosie that you're touching on that's really interesting because there is this sort of weird tug and pull of the industry trying to figure out how AI could be useful theoretically, right, Like that comes with a thousand caveats, but ultimately like, is there a bottom line benefit to starting to use AI in our productions?

Yeah?

At the same time, there is, according to these lawsuits and according to what they're alleging, copyright in front happening by these AI tools, and so there is some mixed messaging.

I found a really interesting quote in a BBC article from Disney's chief legal officer, Ratio Gutierrez.

I want to share that because it kind of illustrates this talking out of both then to your mouth problem from the studios here.

The chief legal officer said that the Disney the firm is optimistic about using AI and like are very pro quote unquote responsibly using the AI to further human creativity.

But quote piracy is piracy, and the fact that it's done by an AI company does not make it any less infringing end quote.

So it's like the.

Okay, I get so.

Mid Journey's lawyers have also argued the same thing.

They've said that essentially the studios are trying to have it both ways, using AI tools while trying to punish a popular AI service.

I would liken that argument to like, oh, I see you own guns, but now you have a problem with me going out and shooting someone in the street.

Like that.

Exactly argument, Like does it really work?

I think?

But I do agree that I think the end state here because AI as a technology you're kind of zooming out is a important to various economies around the world as people race to do to create this, and.

So I think that there's no there's no reality.

In which mid Journey goes away or Chatch TBT goes away or hobbled in.

Any meaningful way.

I think what you will see is mid Journey will have to pay a sizable licenseese going exactly.

It'll be like a yearly or every five years, huge fee for them to continue to produce the results that they are producing.

Now, I think is where exactly we are headed.

But the idea that like, oh, you're trying to have it both ways.

No, it's like I'm not trying to have a both ways.

I'm just we aren't.

I don't want to be.

I don't want to be the one that stands up for the studios.

But it does feel like, you know, very clearly you fed your algorithm this stuff and it's not producing this stuff.

Yeah, and you did it without license from the from the people we.

Know that this, Like the the way that a generative AI was trained is like essentially a plagiarism machine.

Like everybody knows that.

I mean, guys, I wrote a book once, an entire book, and it was completely colored under fair use but it ended up that there was a certain studio that wasn't happy about the way that the book was put together, so they went to a publisher and the book never came out Like this is this is should not have surprised the AI companies.

This is something that is so much precedent throughout the history of Hollywood, like it was never gonna happen where I'm sure that they Disney was like, it's fine, just use Mickey Mouse for free, Like that was never gonna happen.

I think that I'm sure that some portion of their operating budget is earmarked for lawsuits, yes when they started.

And I think also we need to understand like the culture of tech is kind of like capitalism on steroids, which is do the illegal shit so quickly that by the time people catch on, you're so established that people are like, well, this is actually doing something that is valuable.

So it was illegal, but now let's figure out how to work it in zoo.

I mean, you know, you could just look at the history of the country is like is the expansion of the country was like various legal treaties were signed with indigenous peoples, but then we found gold or we found the oil or we found whatever, and then people went in illegally and started getting the gold out, and then we went, well, that looks like a pretty valuable mine over there.

Let's figure out how to make that work within the framework of laws.

And I think that's what will happen.

They will figure out how to make this all work.

The one thing that I do, I just want to say, like, the one thing that is talking out of both sides of the mouth to me and that makes me roll my eyes is the statements by the studios where they're like, we just want to protect the hard working art correct, we know that protect them their blood, sweated.

Tears, and that's ex.

Exact.

That's that's the silliest stuff as well, because you're like, yeah, they're literally just exploiting the same people and the same you guys and people.

People to exploit.

It's also like and there was like, oh my god, and we had to pay this person to exploit You're doing it for free, Like how did this happen?

Yeah?

Yeah, I think that.

I think that like perfectly illustrates this chas and like there are no heroes and villains here.

The studios are not the heroes who are being set upon by the AI companies, and the AI companies are villains, and in my opinion that like the studios are actually quite pro AI.

They just want to make for this ship.

Like they're just like that's what the real truth is.

Then the devil is like ultimately in the details of all of this and where we are in uncharted territory like you illustrated Chase, and like we basically are trying to establish what fair use is for these AI companies, how the studios and the AI companies are going to establish things like licensing agreements, which there is no precedent for.

All of these precedents have to like be created and ultimately, like that is the purpose of lawsuits like this is this is this is like the first lob in a long war that is going to establish the legal precedent for this.

Sort of I.

Think where we're going right is like the dream slash nightmare scenario is one day in the future you will be able to like type into some large language model star wars but starring the Simpsons.

Yeah, that's basically what they want it and it.

Will create a two hour movie or whatever, an hour or a half hour animated series in which you know, Bart Simpson is Luke Skywalker.

The difference will be that every stakeholder in that will get some sort of like they will pay, They will pay Warner Brothers, they will pay Matt Groening, et cetera.

And I think that's what will happen.

Yeah, I just I just want to say before we leave, I want to there is some reporting around this stuff, especially with an upcoming project.

Open Ai is developing a feature link movie animated using AI technology.

This was a Wall Street Jannal piece.

But the funny thing is that like they're reporting around this, I feel is doing that classic kind of like they're they're trying to create consent for something that doesn't need to be consented to by the public, where it's like they're like, this project will dramatically reduce costs.

It's gonna be made for under thirty million dollars.

Guess what flow one an oscar four million dollars, Spirit it Away twenty two million dollars.

Like what about any Satoshi Cone movie made for two to three million dollars?

Like I think that the way money is and the way they're reporting on this stuff, they're going to act like it's cutting costs but the people who are actually out there, Studio Saloon, incredible anime companies like you know, Studio Sara and stuff.

I think that there are people who can make these movies and make stuff for cheaper, and I think that it's better quality stuff.

So I kind of am always wary of when a studio is like, yeah, this is gonna cost so much less, and variety just or Wall Street channels like yeah, yes it will cost less, rather than like laying out the animation can actually and is actually because people are underpaid.

Has always been made for under thirty million dollars, like in a lot of cases.

And I think that sadly, their plan is, well, if we can do it for that cheap, we don't have to have creators involved.

But alas as we know that, well.

The Paddington writers are writing that movie, So.

Paddington three, it's a very different situation.

Paddington more than two.

But like quality movies.

But already they're unable to create that.

And I will add that in that story, it's very vague about like what the percentage of actual AI is in the thing.

Anyway they say it, yeah, it's going to be largely created with AI technology.

That means.

We'll see will it really get into can Film Festival.

That will be an interesting year on the crossings people, big boos are going to be coming big.

Okay, let's take our quick break and we'll be back with our summers streaming.

Let's welcome super producer Joel.

You guys.

Okay.

So I put this in the producers Group chat and I wanted to bring it onto XRGC and I'm continue to be frustrated.

Since two thousand and eleven, I have been asking streaming companies to put together playlists so that we could watch our shows out of order like regular TV, so I don't have to select my shows and I don't have to binge.

But there's no intermedia.

You just have to do it yourself.

And then I was like, well, you know, Spotify does these rap years wrapped things at the end of every year where they're like, this is what you listen to you most this year, this is your point one percent most listened like performer or whatever.

And I was like, man, if I had this for any of my streaming apps, I would both be embarrassed and surprised.

I think, so.

Mine, Well I will, so I will tell you that I think that this is a great idea for a little summer streaming.

Wrapped, while we pick off face, I will say, if you are a cinephile movie lover, let a box does have a version of this where you can look at your own stats.

Also, then you have to manually input.

Yes, you have to.

I am lazy.

I like that.

I'm a little confused too about something else, like so you want basically like TV on streaming where there's just a thing on, okay, and it's off of your tastes.

So if they would introduce me because Criaturian.

And Amazon Prime, do you have that feature?

I just wanted to let you know.

I'm not okaya.

I feel like Pluto TV and that kind of stuff like Act.

Wait, Criterion to None of them are based off your things you like, but it's live television basically.

Okay.

See that's not the same thing.

So I have Venture.

Disney Plus also has that where they're like, if you like this thing, you could just watch it.

No, I'm talking.

About like a playlist for example, I can do I have a playlist that is just albums I like, and then I just hit shuffle and the songs are just coming up at random and it's beautiful.

I know, I like these albums.

It's lovely.

Imagine if I'm chilling at home Hulu so many options.

Maybe I get Alien or episode, then I get a Bob's Burger's, then I get like the Kardashians.

If that's the thing my cousin watches my HULUSA, they're frequently on there, listen.

I just think that there's something really beautiful about like you have all these shows, you're constantly on our app Anyway, a lot of people just put things onto the background.

For their dog.

I just think, like, we have some options here, make me a playlist.

So are you just sat as?

Then with the category the tile category, broadly, I would broadly call it.

Like we think you'll love this, yeah, yeah, you know on net m okay, I.

Love a recommendation section, right, But I think the tiles are limiting because you're just getting endless scroll and.

It's not really helpful.

I think I like HBO has done a really interesting thing where they were like this is the Miyazaki section, Like if you just want DC, you can.

Go there, and that's a little bit more helpful.

But I don't think we've really updated.

Like even just our Internet spaces, like how we navigate on the I.

Just think there's we could be much more creative.

Uh, and we're not there yet.

So anyway, I was thinking about the Spotify rap and I was like, huh, I have some questions.

Uh, Spotify, does this is your genres?

You're most listening to?

Genres?

And I was curious for you guys, if you were to have an app rap at the end of the year for your television watching or even maybe just for this summer, Like, what would the categories for you?

Carmen, Let's start with you.

Yeah, thank you.

This is something you know.

We talked about a little bit about this yesterday and I started to really think about it, and I was like, what is you know, what are.

My watching habits?

And obviously I have a lot of streaming habits that are related to X ray vision, so I'm watching a lot of the shows that we're talking about on the pod.

But I realized, like, I watch more YouTube than probably anything.

You're not Alone.

You're not Alone.

I believe that's one of the most beautiful football watch.

Yeah, and so I gave myself like the streaming genre label of like horror, true crime and a reverence slop, but the horror and the true crime has to be like from a very specific era.

It has to be nineties television error horror and true crime.

And so.

I would say, like, that's my genre label.

The top one percent that I think I would fall into because I so frequently put this on to nap too and I wake up in like four episodes have already passed.

Is either unsolved mysteries or forensic files.

I know for a classic.

Embodying the lives of many women.

I had to think about it too.

I was like, why do I like falling asleep to that?

And I realized it's those voices.

But he didn't realize the killer was right outside.

Yeah, exactly.

Very relaxing, Joe.

She went to work that morning.

Everything felt fine.

It was it was a normal day, Joel.

What would your streaming genre label be and what would the property that you were in the top one percent of.

I'm gonna do like Harmon did, because I like that you had, you had two regulars, and then a Netflix style category appreciated.

So I think adult animation would definitely be up there, and then I think like Prestige TV.

I kind of just vacillate between the two.

But if I was going to go with a Netflix thing, I would be like, uh, angry women over forty.

Trying to figure out their lives es an angry woman program.

She has the right angry be angry, and she should be at my point one percent, I think, surprising no one on this show Bob's Burgers, Do I sing?

Right?

That's who recently started this thing where they were like, they cut off the credits at the end.

Are you disrupting the unique song they put at the end of each episode?

Like Bob creates an original burger in every episode.

How dare you?

I don't like it?

I turn that off.

I have to listen to the whole song.

Love me some Bobs?

What about you?

Rosie Categories and your point one percent show?

Okay, well, my point one percent show is definitely murder.

She wrote, I have present show every day and I go to sleep.

We all know there is a murder.

She wrote.

Twenty four to seven channel on TV as also on book and on Google.

They have all of those.

There is a Midsummer Murders twenty four hour a day channel.

That's another one of my favorite ones.

That's like, that's a brit really weird, campy British one with crazy guest stars Olivia Coleman or Anno Bloom like everyone's been in the show.

I will say, obviously love TV, cover a lot of TV on this pod, but I am a solid at home movie watcher.

If I'm not covering the show, I am mostly movies.

So my theme this year, according to Letterbox, is I have the most movies I've watched this year are sixty films in the genre of horror, the Undead Monsters, and my second forty three films Epic Heroes.

So you know, I think it's very as as is expected.

But yeah, I mean my most watched film this year because it's one of my like ultimate comfort films is Wicked, since I've watched it six times this year, holding space.

Yeah, I'm holding space, can't help.

Four times I've watched the Minecraft movie.

Can you tell?

I have lots of nieces and nephews three times, ranking Embasses, the Hobbit three times, Capop Demon Hunters three times weapons.

So those are my weapons three times two those are.

Currently weapons family.

Over here, those are my those are my current my current tops, and I'm averaging around forty two movies per month, so you can tell things about great and my app Wow.

Yeah, I watch movies all day every day while I work.

It's It's all I do pretty much when I'm not recording the podcast.

So, Jason, what do you think?

What's your TVY wrap up?

Your streaming wrap up?

My point zero zero one viewing rating is going to be uh, And I think this is going to be indicative of a lot of my tastes.

It is going to be ken Burns the Civil War documentary.

It's a highly listen I I fully acknowledge the but it's dad programming and something about it.

I put it on and it soothes me, and I can do.

All this stuff.

It's so good to that is way too boring for me, but I was The Vietnam One is also a one that I can just like have on.

Okay, So let's just go through my.

We think you'll love these Netflix on that Flix Hostiles, the I'm gonna I'm gonna characterize this as.

War crime and comedy.

That's what, Okay, we forget like that.

So Hostiles, this is a western uh starring Uh looks like to be Christian Bale.

You are getting datted up and I'm getting a lot of Dad.

Blow the Johnny Depp Penelope Cruise Cocaine seventies cocaine smuggler movie, which I've seen.

I didn't think was that good turning point.

The Vietnam War.

Oh Jensen, take me with you.

She's a stand up, very very talented stand.

Up Kax.

The least said out of the Vetter train Wreck poop Cruise.

And I've got the number of the high school, like waiting, I've got waiting in the wings for this.

Weekend, maybe the most thing this year that's coming.

Yes, I've already had it spoiled the if, if such a thing can be spoiled.

Not it won't make your enjoyment about any less.

Or we think you'll love these untamed I don't know what that is Quarterback Uh Devo the documentary about Devo.

Yeah, okay, zero zero Day.

The Hateful Eight, Candle her A lot of war stuff you.

Have, Jason, Yeah, right?

How many children are in this house only?

So it's basically like a lot of stuff that I can have on where it's like did I just miss was I like checked out for twenty minutes of Happy Gilmour too?

Probably?

But now I'm going to watch it for fen minutes.

And then back exactly.

So that's that's my.

That's what Netflix, that's second streaming.

I have one more category before we exit here, and that category it's an interesting and challenging one.

So you could kind of take it as you want.

But you get artists in your Spotify rapt like this your most listened to artists, and so I was curious, is there a creator or performer that you think would pop up most in your wrapt?

I think mine would be Kevin Michael Richardson.

Uh, He's a voice actor.

He does like eighty nine projects a year.

I feel like I listened to a ton of them, So I'm like, I think they're definitely gonna be A voice actor is gonna be my top and I would pick him, Karen, what about you?

Mine are definitely gonna have to be Trixie Mattel and katiasmal So watch everything that they put out.

A lot of my contents that I.

Watch is outside of works and stuff and boyfriend.

I have boyfriend category, I have work category, and then I have Karmen alone time category.

And everybody's division of watching the people I live with watching watching.

But when I watching It's Tricksy and Katia.

I will literally I will put on episodes of Uh.

I will put on episodes of The Balls in the Beautiful.

I will just watched anything that they're doing because they're make me.

They're so funny.

Rosie, what about go ahead, Rosie?

Yeah, well I can again thank you to Letterbox.

I am not sponsored, but if you'd like to sponsor me or the podcast, I am a I'm a letter Box patron.

I pay my pay my money every year so I can use it without ads and get my stats because this is the thing I know who.

My most watched performers of this year so far have been Christopher Lee in six movies, so that's probably because I've been watching a lot of Hammer, Horror, Ron Perlman, five movies, probably B movies and hell Boy, which I rewatch a lot, and then fourth She'll be going up because I love to watch a movie.

Pam Grea, I watch a lot of There Is a There is a.

They have a fast, free ad supported television channel now called Pam Gria's Soul Flicks, and all it is is rips of old, weird black exploitation and exploitation movies and I have discovered some real the incredible movies on that I have never seen before, and I have quite an extensive exploitation DVD box set collection.

So yeah, definitely Pamgris Sulflix loving that and yeah those are my three Christopher Lee, prom Pellman and Pam Grit very up to date selections, clearly, Jason, how about you.

My most watched this person?

It's gonna be all Spanish language creators.

I'm gonna go with h q RU Paul who.

Is a former police officer currently living in Mexico, Spanish teacher and content creator who I think has one of the biggest you know, Spanish is the second language community is on YouTube, and I just watch a lot of his stuff as I continue my language journey through the beautiful language.

So I'm just like, by the way my commercial algorithms.

Oh.

Oh yeah, all my all my commercials are currently.

That's how you won.

Yeah, all my like jeep ads are like in Spanish.

It's like selling me stuff in Spanish, like you know, laundry, de turgen, et cetera.

I'm watching a lot of Spanish.

Well, other mobile phone commercials we get on TV here in Spanish, so I'm just kind of vibing with it.

I'm like, yeah, let's go.

Can I going to teach me Spanish language recommendation for you?

Sure?

If you haven't already watched it, It's on HBO leven and Oh series about the Christina le Beautiful Story, eight episode mini series in Spanish.

If you love the way that's that people in Barcelona speak Spanish.

Oh yeah, I'm a super fan of it.

But yes, I accept it.

I love the Spanish lisp, so.

I will check it out.

Yeah, okay, it's time for our weekend plans, a Boo, let's start with you.

Well, by the time our listeners hear this, I will be in Paris, because I'm in Paris all next week.

Yes, absolutely, I'm mostly going to be, you know, watching the sunlight bounce off the sin, listening to croissants crunching in my mouth, reading the directions.

Yeah, on the plane I do intend on.

Yeah, I hear the bread is incredible.

Yeah absolutely, that's definitely the plan.

So those are my weekend plans.

I'm out of the country on one vacation.

Listeners, you may not know, but A Boo is a true romantic at heart, and I'm just really looking forward to his stories post being in the most romantic city.

It's going to be lovely.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'll report back on whether I fall in.

Love or not.

Joel.

How about you?

What are you watching this weekend or doing a thing?

We're enjoying?

The Great British Bakeoff is bad?

Thank god?

She is my life and my comfort.

And they start talk with a classic challenge.

I haven't watched the episode yet, but it's a Swiss role challenge.

I've never made a Swiss role until I thought me, I will try to make a Swiss role at home while I watched The Great British bak Off.

That's a great cozy weekend with some tea.

Have you watched the first episode of the new season of The New Yeah no, no, no, not yet.

I'm saving it.

Okay, you haven't watched it yet, Okay, I have.

There's a controversial technical and I'm gonna want your opinion on it.

What could you do well?

I say, if we can get some great British baking contest, great British baking contest content on this channel, or as we call it, British Bakeoff, I would be very excited.

So let's put a pin in that delicious Swiss role and bring it up soon because I love to discuss a technical challenge.

Hell yeah, common.

You always write Shrek, but what are you really doing?

I wrote that that was Aaron right, Shrek, Shrek forever off the I.

Turned to look at what I had.

Written and it was just said, Shrek, good one rats.

Right No?

I uh well, now that Joelle has informed me that the Great British Making Show is back, I will be adding that to my weekend plans because that is a favorite that my boyfriend I love to watch together.

That's a boyfriend and Carmen content.

And then I am going.

This Friday, I am today.

While you're listening to this, I'm gonna I'm going to see The Long Walk.

I'm very.

Tamilla.

I wish I wish I got to do to go to one of the treadmill screenings.

That's but unfortunately I will be seated and I will be reclined while I watched the Long Roll, The Long.

Rosie.

How about you?

What are you doing this weekend?

What am I doing this weekend?

I'm going to be trying to do a lot of chilling.

I will also probably go and see the Long Walk, though I have heard it's very depressing.

I've read the book.

I've heard it manages to keep up with the bleakness of the book.

And I've also had it may be one of the best Stephen King adaptations that we've ever got.

Carrie like a word, Yes, carry would like.

A week's very very high bar.

I'm telling you multiple different reviewers and people that you respect.

Yeah, they say it immediately joins Shore Shank, Redemption, Green Mile.

I would also misery, you know, misery, the Shining I love misery.

I would put that definitely up there, very high.

I carry, of course.

So yeah, Carrier, no love for Carrie.

I'm interested, So I'm definitely interested to see where that will go.

I will also be reading.

There is an author that I really love called Kirsten White.

She's not only a fantastic author she wrote Mister Magic to wrote Hyde, but also she is just a really great person, so always nice.

We've done some panels together, but I always await her books with Beta Breath.

She does great, great horror, and she has a new one that is called the House of Quiet.

So I'm very excited to check that out because her last book, which was a queer retelling of like Frankenstein, and then she did a queer retelling of Dracula those which just I ate them up.

So this is about a girl whose sister is lost and she has to go into this strange house posing as a maid.

So very gothic kind of vibes.

Yeah, can't wait, very excited, Jason, howe about you?

I'm gonna I can resist no longer.

I will be watching unknown number of the high School Catfish.

It's time.

I simply must give in to the terrible temptation to watch this horrendous story.

I'm going to be uh, I'm going to be diving into and feeding my very secretive and very shameful true crime addiction more by watching more YouTube content from some true crime creators that I like about the Wendy Agelson murder case, which google it.

It's yeah, crazy crazy.

And then I'm going to be reading as well.

I'm reading, I'm reading on but that's not it, you, guys.

I just really just tell Mary.

Yeah, and I I would highly recommend reading Project Tail Mary before seeing the movie.

And that book was fun so good.

That's it's really fun.

It does move, It's great.

Well, guys, that's it for this episode.

Thanks for everybody for joining us, Thanks for listening folks out there.

We'll be back tomorrow with the biggest.

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