Episode Transcript
[SPEAKER_04]: You're listening to Nightmare on Film Street.
[SPEAKER_04]: The current time is 666, traffic is clear ahead from here to the afterlife, but it's hell outside.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, let's give a grave welcome to our hosts, John and Kim.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello again, Fiends.
[SPEAKER_05]: Welcome to Nightmare on Film Streets.
[SPEAKER_05]: The horror movie podcast for the casually obsessed.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm John.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Kimmy.
[SPEAKER_05]: And we are back for episode two of the new season of the podcast.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, another hint at what the secret theme is.
[SPEAKER_05]: This week we are talking about the Grindhouse Classic pieces.
[SPEAKER_02]: From 1983?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think 1982.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, according to Wikipedia, 1982.
[SPEAKER_05]: Damn, okay, fine.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, maybe one of the best trailers ever.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cut, truly definitely, maybe the second best tagline ever.
[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously the first one goes to jazz too.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the tagline?
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't have to go to Texas for a chainsaw massacre.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Isn't that fucking incredible?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really good in Okinawa.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's jaws twos take life?
[SPEAKER_05]: Just use tagline is just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's jaws the first jaws is tagline?
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it might be don't don't.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's probably you read the book.
[SPEAKER_05]: Come see the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are both really good taglines.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have a third favorite or a third thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: How many got on the brain, John?
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the thing is all of the grind house movies, all of the low budget movies, they had the best taglines because they needed to just tell you on something to get into the theater.
[SPEAKER_05]: And movie like pieces is promising you everything you want in a shit movie from 1982.
[SPEAKER_02]: Isn't this a spirit tagline like The only thing goddamn me.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the best one.
[SPEAKER_05]: The only thing scarier than the first 90 minutes is the last 15 Yeah, which doesn't make any sense because it means come for the beginning leave for the end [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm so old.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, it's the other way around.
[SPEAKER_05]: The only thing scarier than the last 10 minutes is the first 90.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like we really, we're not going out on a big weekend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, so yeah, pieces.
[SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit, this movie, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to say, my experience with this movie is very recent, and I can happily say that the first time I ever watched it was with the Fiend Club when we did a watch party.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the best way to experience this movie, like with a bunch of different horror fans all just like what the fucking at the same time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so some of them had definitely seen it before, but it was a first time watch for a lot of people, including us, and to just have a whole bunch of horror fans riffing and laughing through the whole thing, what an experience.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no always it was such a fun experience.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like I would recommend you watch this with your friends Definitely if that's an opportunity hopefully you have spooky friends or even friends But don't like where movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: They'll probably be fine with that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Truly thought you're gonna say hopefully you have friends [SPEAKER_02]: I believe some friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're hard to come by these days.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean it's true.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, this piece is my experience is much longer because I have started this had started this movie many times.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is crazy because the first like five, six minutes of the movie they do not set you up for the rest.
[SPEAKER_02]: The movie at all not not well, I don't I think in the first five minutes.
[SPEAKER_05]: We have a kid killing his mother because she's discovered his porno puzzle We have a girl dying while riding a skateboard Does she die?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is my big question the movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: It happens to mirror girl and then also immediately after that a second girl who we think is the mirror girl who dies Well, okay, we're cut [SPEAKER_05]: get her head chopped off on the lawn of a campus.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think they're really setting you up for exactly what this movie is, but for whatever reason, this was something that I would constantly put on at like 2 a.m.
[SPEAKER_05]: or 3 in the morning.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's where we should definitely be going to bed and I'm like, I'm staying up for one more movie and I would never make it past the first day.
[SPEAKER_02]: This feels like a movie that you would only start at 2 a.m.
[SPEAKER_02]: and never get through.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: And frankly, if you can stay up that late if you're not an old man like me that is the time to watch it and like as a kid I could tell like if this went on was on TV You'd be like, oh, this is naughty We've got a little sexy puzzle Man pornography used to be so simple [SPEAKER_05]: Those were the days like to get a puzzle and then to solve it and then here's the thing this kid really Wanted to start coming back to those like lighters that you had to like tilt a certain angle Oh, do you see a naked lady?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or a deck of cards or something?
[SPEAKER_05]: She his mother comes in sees him trying to put together this puzzle that's got a naked lady on it And he has saved just the two bits that obviously wants to see and she can you like You couldn't give me 10 more seconds mom fuck [SPEAKER_05]: This is like when the, this is like an alternate version of the Beastie Boys, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you got a fight for your right to porn No I'm too puzzled Yeah, and like any normal child his reaction to this is to fucking murder his mother with an axe with an axe But that is something about this movie is that all the deaths feel very sudden [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a lot of them particularly the opening kill because she's like go get a bag I need to find all your pornos.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you have a ton of them and she's rooting through a shit And then he just shows up with an axe and just bludgens are in the head and then continues to do the puzzle [SPEAKER_05]: How confused would you, okay, I mean, the police that show up are basically just like, oh, strange.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't actually do any police work whatsoever, but like, let's say this happened in the...
No, because they find the kid cowering in the closet, the mum is just ahead in another closet.
[SPEAKER_05]: Looks great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's covered in blood.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no one else at the scene of this crime, and he's a f-e-e-e-e-e-e.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so happy and they're like, come here, boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll ask him for you for 40 years.
[SPEAKER_05]: But okay, so we're like, we cut 40 years later and a masked figure who we don't see.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's wearing gloves.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like it's a g-all-one.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's basically back at the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's dumb.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you like it?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a g-all-one.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's sure it's he's opening drawers pulling out Chuboxes that have our filled his memorabilia including his mom's bloody shoes Yeah, and her dress and a photo of her ex out who's in case you were Who kept that for him?
[SPEAKER_05]: Who's like you're gonna want this later?
[SPEAKER_05]: Here's a little keepsake of the worst day of your life [SPEAKER_02]: Because they definitely found that body with clothes on and they were like here, here, here are her effects And he's like, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you put it in this box, please?
[SPEAKER_05]: They probably gave it to him at the funeral.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you this box with the the photo of your mother Extend and a naked woman like a puzzle in it as well.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like this is all for you Like imagine going to the funeral instead of folding up a flag like a military funeral They give him like her bloody clothing Here we noticed your little freak you might want this [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, and like all serial killers, he waits 40 years before he does it again.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, of course, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: You got to wait for a nice anniversary.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like keeping a bottle of wine in the cell.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, oftentimes have a catch serial killers or caught serial killers back in the like serial killer heyday.
[SPEAKER_05]: You try to say we don't catch them anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: 70s and 80s.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, we'll be catch people before they become serial killers.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's less of them and it's also a harder to be a circular so it may be to tell us people either way.
[SPEAKER_02]: The reason why the one of the main reasons we would catch circular is By the pauses and the breaks in their attacks and serial rapists and stuff and it was always often because they were incarcerated for another thing And they were able to line up like okay, well, who's in prison in this area that has a rap sheet that's similar to whatever [SPEAKER_02]: and was in prison for these three years when all the killings mysteriously stopped and then started up again.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they catch people that way, which makes this movie even sillier because he's not incarcerated at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not this crime is not pinned on him.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just, you know, grows up, gets a solid education becomes a dean of a really interestingly, eclectic school with kung fu classes, sexy dance classes, cool ass pool, and tennis lessons.
[SPEAKER_05]: You didn't pull in the fucking country.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, spoiler alert, Kim just gave away the end of the fucking movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you haven't seen pieces, also if you're listening to this podcast, I'm either you've watched it or you don't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's either humor or the gardener, and the gardener is looking to suck the whole time.
[SPEAKER_02]: The gardener, man!
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know it's not him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Truly, one of my favorite characters in cinematic history.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is just John's favorite actor.
[SPEAKER_05]: I fucking love this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Which is crazy.
[SPEAKER_05]: His name is Paul Smith.
[SPEAKER_05]: He is a Thespion.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you remember I cognize his work from the legs of Gene Wilder's haunted honeymoon.
[SPEAKER_05]: Which we've covered on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, he isn't that!
[SPEAKER_05]: He's the crazy psychiatrist who sets up this elaborate ruse to cure gene wilder of his irrational fear.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but he's acting in this movie is so, so insane.
[SPEAKER_05]: He is giving us a Nicolas Cage performance and you should thank him for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, the first, the first kill in the school is one, one girl she goes for like, you know, one of those night swims that you go on and he shows up and he after the massacre occurs and the killer has used his chainsaw and he's so like insults it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You touched my girl.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the killer continues to use his chainsaw, so he's just like not doing a great job But it you totally buy it because the first time you see him he's cut and branches and just waxing the chainsaw Like it's his one Like he's like, oh, baby They could have put like a heart filter on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_05]: Those are the new Valentine's for next year That's what we need.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I want at 2026 have Valentine's Day Whatever this long groundskeeper's name is Willard his name is Willard [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know more about this groundskeeper than I don't 90% of people listen.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know more about this groundskeeper than I know about anything else in the rest of the movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's amazing in this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: His entire performance hinges on him just giving weird eyebrows.
[SPEAKER_02]: He squints the entire film.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's got one outfit.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's got, it's a leisure suit.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's powder blue on the top and the bottom.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's absurd.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, boy.
[SPEAKER_05]: So one of the other things that I do.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to suspect there's nobody else that it could possibly be But the thing is when they show the killer every time and like he's wearing dress shoes, but we always see Willard in like denim Yeah, well, and like the killer's like a Paul skinny guy in in a trench coat.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and this guy looks like he ate the killer Like I love you Paul Smith, but You're not the skinnyest man in this movie [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's an interesting one because okay, so we jump forward 40 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we know we're looking for like a 50-year-old man minimum of which there are only three in the movie that are not police detectives [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because it's not like the kid, the Casanova Kendall who's the Lothario of campus who sleep with everybody, you apparently say.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, and it's not like he has happened upon this kid's jigsaw puzzle, bloody dress and shoes, and he's like, I'm going to make my entire personality.
[SPEAKER_05]: This weird box I just found, like it doesn't make that doesn't make any fucking sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he kind of gets like pushed onto the case by the cops themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, we need eyes and ears and we've chosen you to be the lead character of this film.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, like the writers were just like, we watched a couple dairy or agentos and we think we know how this is pretty sure we know what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: But the thing is the movie thinks that it has 17 suspects.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, one of my favorite moments.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's after the killer goes for the arm's girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, an elevator?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so we'll see.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but this is not about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is about the moment afterwards when it's like the middle of the night and it's storming.
[SPEAKER_02]: And everybody is at the school after hours standing there all in like, oh, I'm up for the detective to look at.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thunder clap in the background.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's fucking clue and falling the fucking guy room like okay now, who murdered Mr.
Body But there is zero like there's no chance that it's anybody other than well I mean, there's a couple people you're not entirely sure it could be the the spian Professor Oh, Mr.
But Matt made yes, of course He looks like she looks like Shakespeare like he looks like if you put that freely called her around him 100% he's right in some instant [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, he's only sus because he knows about body parts.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so I'm making fun a little bit of the writer of the movie, but you know, just saying that now, there's a misunderstanding.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not making fun of anything about this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm celebrating the intensity.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is my new favorite one of our jobs.
[SPEAKER_05]: I did.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad to hear that.
[SPEAKER_05]: This movie fucking rock.
[SPEAKER_02]: I fucking bumped something off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what yet, but it's up there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, and frankly, this might be Tomtit.
[SPEAKER_05]: Perfect.
[SPEAKER_05]: Really.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so good.
[SPEAKER_05]: That is a, that's a very surprising thing here, uh, but yeah, this movie fucking rocks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I hope I didn't bump off the Texas chainsome as a guy from the top 10 because that would really hurt, uh, but it would make sense for you, um, writer of this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Dick Randall also the producer of this movie, and this is why it makes it Such a perfect follow-up to our first movie last week's slaughter high because it is the same producers that made slaughter high I approve in fact there's a sequence in slaughter high where the was it Carol the the I've already forgotten all those Okay, the character who is the actress.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the main girl.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's talking to a producer in the movie and behind him is a poster for pieces [SPEAKER_02]: I remember that in this movie there's a poster for Friday the 13th which they had nothing to do with [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, some of the only notes I wrote when we were watching this movie was, this movie is like aliens, they're solely learned what humans were for the Friday the 13th series and the wee jello films and then decided to make their own movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I think that's great.
[SPEAKER_05]: None of the dialogue makes any fucking sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: I've, it's truly unhinged and so fucking funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like leaps and bounds this movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just tiny little details that are so hard to try and convey in a podcast.
[SPEAKER_05]: Professor Brown, for example, gets called into a room and to talk to the dean's assistant.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, oh.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are y'all still talking about that business?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like a girl was decapitated on campus and he could give zero-fucks if ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone is so blas-ay about these murders.
[SPEAKER_02]: One, girls are done.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this takes place over, say, like 48 hours, maybe total.
[SPEAKER_02]: And girls are dying left-right in center.
[SPEAKER_02]: All on campus.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't close down the school.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't send letters to parents.
[SPEAKER_02]: Press starts coming around and they're like, oh no, nothing's happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, girls are dead!
[SPEAKER_05]: No one gives a shit.
[SPEAKER_05]: No one gives a fuck.
[SPEAKER_05]: Not at all.
[SPEAKER_05]: The cops.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not even Kendall and wasn't the first girl that was murdered, his fucking girlfriend.
[SPEAKER_05]: Was it the first girl murdered, is the girl that we don't know anything about?
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sort of a colonel.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not counting window mirrors.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm neither am I.
Because I do not think she died there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need an explanation.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I'll fucking find it for you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Jesus Christ, it actually doesn't make any sense.
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know why they kept it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it might even be a deleted scene.
[SPEAKER_05]: I remember this coming up while we were watching it with the Vinklob.
[SPEAKER_05]: And like everyone's in a while, sort of like pepper it with like some trivia that I found, no Wikipedia or IMDB.
[SPEAKER_05]: And...
[SPEAKER_02]: yes so there's we're not taught we're gonna not counting mirror girl then there's long girl and then there's the swimmer girl so the swimmer girl is the one that's she was writing Kendall a letter right like who comes skinny giving with me at this yeah really wonderful pool this school has it's gorgeous and no one what what are the school doing with the pool this nice [SPEAKER_05]: That content pool looks like it belongs in a billionaire's mansion.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, like my dream vacation is whatever resort has that Dream vacation this call and yeah, where kids are getting murdered and I'm just on the sidelines hanging out with the Kung Fu professor Trying to figure out what's going on boy the Kung Fu professor.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay before we go on about the skateboarding girl So I've found it on I'm to be here.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the skateboarding girl who crashes into a mirror and Virginia Palmer the co-head.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's got a whole last name [SPEAKER_05]: Who's decapitated by the chainsaw?
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, because that's lying on the grass.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, so it's the same girl?
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, oh, shit, fuck me.
[SPEAKER_05]: It says aren't back the same person.
[SPEAKER_05]: In an interview with Actress Roxanne Nieto, she explains that her character escapes through the mirror, but survives with apparently no visible injury.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the thing I kept waiting for like a girl with like bandages on her face to show up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, this scene is witnessed by the dean who gets the idea to create a perfect woman using pieces from other women.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so that's what sets him on.
[SPEAKER_05]: He then stalks and kills the skateboarder Palmer, making her the first victim of, at the call.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, that these are some narrative leap.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is the best sentence of the entire trivia factoid.
[SPEAKER_05]: This scenario was not explained in the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha [SPEAKER_02]: And it spliced in him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, either looking at the puzzle or looking at his dead mom's clothes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we just cut to the first murder.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're on the garden.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no girl with bandages.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, there's nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no explanation.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's no justification apart from that IMDB trivia, which is from an interview from years later.
[SPEAKER_02]: For why he hasn't killed him 40 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it bumped something off Kim's top 10 horror movies of all time.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, there are very few explanations for anything, and I fucking love it.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's pure carnage, it's absolute insanity, and it's just a good fucking time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is so fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is a shame that we did not watch this movie sooner, but I feel like it found us at the right time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really happy like we watched it when and how we did.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am sad that I didn't grow up with it, but I'm making up for it now with the level of proof appreciation I have for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and I'm watching it for the first time with a group of people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely way to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a bonkers movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the kung fu teacher.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe like the thing that pushes it over the edge for me so another undercover cop is Mary who's who's a cop But also with tennis pro and she's going undercover as a tennis teacher to be more eyes and years for the detective on top of Kendall which they don't explain this, but I think it's just that she fits the description of the other women that are dying like she's just blonde and pretty [SPEAKER_00]: Is it I think I have no I don't know I think in their mind.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're just like she's like I'm looking woman He's like we're understaffed well.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think they want to use her as bait.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh Well, why is none of them around then?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is she ever wearing a wire like what?
[SPEAKER_05]: No, yeah, not no idea.
[SPEAKER_05]: No idea at all [SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, she's walking alone at night, you know, scoping around, trying to see if she can, you know, crack the case or whatever, and then some guy just shows up like full of kung fu style starts like trying to attack her and then she beats him up and Kendall shows up on his chainsaw motorbike.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ain't some motorbike.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he, she's like, oh, my comfort teacher and then all of a sudden like that previous fight sequence we had was just a misunderstanding.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's pretty.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a little stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and not to make this fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, stupid in the best way possible.
[SPEAKER_05]: But, you know, not to make this entire episode just a bunch of trivia facts that, you know, we've already sort of, like, relayed in that watch party.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is just the first one at the very top of IMDB trivia, because producer Dick Randall was simultaneously making a Kung Fu film and Rome, a cameo for a Bruce Lee imitator named Bruce Lay.
[SPEAKER_05]: He's actually in a bunch of, like, Bruce'sploitation movies.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's not get into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And porno's?
[SPEAKER_05]: Probably he was written into the film even though this scene makes no sense in the context of the rest of the film I love that the the IMDB trivia is pulling no punch is saying like we don't know why they did this They don't know why they did this, but thank God we live in the world where this movie exists [SPEAKER_05]: So here's the other thing though, and movie this bonkers, and movie this bananas, you would not be shocked if the kills sucked, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like honestly they could suck.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and you do have every right.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have all of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have all my permission to suck.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they are really visceral.
[SPEAKER_05]: And really good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like even now, we've seen the movie before.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're jaded horror fans.
[SPEAKER_05]: There were a couple.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are a couple kills in this that maybe go, oh fuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: The elevator kill?
[SPEAKER_00]: With a car?
[SPEAKER_00]: But they got that bus on!
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a real R.
I thought I'd for a half a second.
[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, this is dangerous.
[SPEAKER_05]: What did they do it?
[SPEAKER_05]: And frankly, probably dangerous.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's no goddamn way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, she's just got her on.
[SPEAKER_00]: The horror news, the first minor jacket.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they're definitely using real chains.
[SPEAKER_02]: God movies used to be so danger is a good fuck yeah all of the kills and I was thinking about it while we were watching I was like what is it that's making these kills really fucking land because even when the news reporter is scoping around after the come full moment she gets murdered on the much talked about waterbed yes [SPEAKER_02]: And just the fact of her like writhing around bleeding from being stabbed and the waterbed burst like you're just like what is I'm uncomfortable Oh, well, they shells like it stabs the back of the neck and the knife comes out or mouth Yeah, so like maybe the struggles are good because the acting in this in the movie not great But the acting in this movie particularly the ground [SPEAKER_00]: Add some film though, not great, but the kills are just so fucking creepy.
[SPEAKER_05]: That girl that gets killed in the shower, you see the chainsaw cut into her torso, like they probably use like pig skin or something, it looks gnarly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they cut her in half.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, they also do really good work of showing dead bodies where clearly it is made like a riser.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we've hidden them like the, you know, the part that was cut off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, underneath the floor or a shelf.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, total pride of the 13th stop.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that's why that poster is there.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're just like, we stole all of the practical effects work from this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So on top of it being just very visceral and the fact that they're going there and they're showing it, I honestly think the reason why it's so successful is that they have absolutely nailed the color and viscosity of blood in a way that movies were not doing in the 80s.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think the blood looks so good in it.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's gotta be it, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though even on the walls, like they do a lot of blood splatter, even just hero shots of the wall and then blood splatters on it, every time he kills someone, and it looks fantastic.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the funny thing is, it isn't as easy to film chainsaw stuff as you would think.
[SPEAKER_05]: You think, oh, chainsaw's in movies?
[SPEAKER_05]: No problem.
[SPEAKER_05]: The work's done for ya.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's gonna be so easy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that's why there's that like shot of the chainsaw in the sauna because it's impossible to film in the sauna Then they're like chainsaws are equally as hard Okay, so this is what you're talking about is the seed where the reporter before she gets killed of the waterbed is skulking around She's you know trying to see if there's something in the spa area of the In the spa area of the college and she opens a door to the sauna.
[SPEAKER_05]: There's just a chainsaw sitting in there and she goes [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, like like in just a totally normal thing you would see waiting for you in the sauna like Oh, yeah, nothing to see here, of course is a change.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also sauna's are like two by two rooms the killer is in there.
[SPEAKER_05]: He wasn't there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in there Maybe it's because he's dressed as the shadow [SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's funny to say, and it's funny to see because he's wearing like a fedora and a trench coat like I was joking that it looks like he's some sort of some sort of spy that's Look going to meet a journalist in a parking garage somewhere, but it looks awesome.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like even when he's like sneaking into the pool, or he's sneaking into the dance studio and like it's a pitch black room.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a very surreal like a blue silhouette.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a very interesting outfit, though, to be a chainsaw killer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, like this is absolutely- Like the 40's spy get up, doesn't quite go with chainsaw.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he seemingly is walking around, concealing a chainsaw.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everywhere he goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man, that trench coat probably is one big pocket in the front.
[SPEAKER_05]: What if he's just got a hook that goes on to like a belt loop on his pants?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's a walk like stupid, so it doesn't cut him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, everything's totally normal out here.
[SPEAKER_05]: We just got the Dean going for his nightlead and wide stroll.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's looking like a wild west sheriff.
[SPEAKER_05]: the other thing we're not talking about is the title of the movie like it's called pieces and we know what the killer is about puzzles yeah he's putting together this like dream woman basically it's strange that they had to try and tie it into his mother I guess they're just trying to show that who this character is like from the beginning like the killer is the kid from the beginning I don't feel like be you know like what we saw in the beginning had [SPEAKER_05]: Puzzle, stare for murder, huh?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but why is it connected to his mom?
[SPEAKER_02]: Puzzle.
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess it always is.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like, oh, this is sick fucking weirdo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shame.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all about shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a sexual shame and mothers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Something something for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'll give it for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Also, fueled by cocaine, so it totally checks out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sexual frustration, mothers.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so what he's doing is he is cutting off the perfect pieces from each woman on campus, like the first girl that he used to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: He went with the face first, like the head, like he was, he's not very selective.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to say, like there was no auditions process, like he just cut the first girl he's off.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I think he just, he saw something in it.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, he's like the worst talent scout, but why did he take the dancers arms when you take the dancers legs right and take the tennis players arms But here's the funny thing though when the Dean meets the tennis pro for the first time when she's undercover He does check out her legs.
[SPEAKER_05]: I noticed this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he does and in terms of not not being selective Let's be real once he gets once he cuts the legs off of that other tennis girl [SPEAKER_02]: and the feats are too small.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the feats are too small.
[SPEAKER_05]: He knows that he is very selective and that he knows he's got to get different feats.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like he didn't care about the face, the head at all, because he's really keen on those shoes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Big on the feet, he's got a big feet thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: The other great thing about this movie, this is the, you know, the great thing about May and it's just like so many other movies that I'm constantly going on and on about This doesn't feel Frankenstein though, I would say.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a secret Frankenstein movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I disagree because this is one of those body assembling movies that isn't about the creation of life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not about anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ah, you see.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's wonderful.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about puzzle.
[SPEAKER_05]: It isn't what the fuck, Kim.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kim has been playing a lot of kids are playing a lot of connections I've been telling me this is actually really great time for me this movie I've been on like a sadoku kick and like I get the obsession with puzzles With puzzles.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'll keep one eye open is what is what I'm here in I don't worry you have 40 more years [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, but I gotta make sure that it's not 40 years from tonight.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's 40 years from the first time you watch pieces That's how I keep you.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's how I stay one step ahead.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it does start with an opening kill.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shut the fuck up.
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't need to.
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't put that on me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so um, is this your favorite performance of groundskeeper man?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, I really like here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, this is maybe the only movie where he's not like a passing by character.
[SPEAKER_02]: No!
[SPEAKER_02]: You said that like you were lying.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, he's got a he's got a pretty sizable role in David Lynch's Dune I don't what did he do you do care so like he's one of these he's the talking brain Okay, he's got a pretty reasonable role in midnight Express which is a legitimate movie This is not one of John's dumb picks.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is like a you know I've never heard of it so it probably is He's in Maverick if you like comedy westerns [SPEAKER_02]: John, this is a, this is a really long list that you have at the ready, but there's nothing will truly be.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know, I pulled this out of nowhere, I'm not sitting in front of IMDB right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is absolutely his peak performance is oiling up that chain, so on the beginning of the video, it's never gonna top that.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you had a locker, you'd have that phone on it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, some some some teens have photos of the head cheerleader or I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's some actress or something He has photos of himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true John has photos of the grand scheme for from Feast.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just love and it's changed Oh, man, I mean, you know based on my wardrobe and my current hair I feel like I'm taking fashion advice from him right there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be all in costume.
[SPEAKER_02]: If anybody knew of nobody would know Absolutely know [SPEAKER_05]: I do want to come at you a little bit come at me as we go out here To say that I do think this is much more of a Frankenstein film than you think it's about But we have a reanimated corpse at the end of this movie that totally rips off candles dick What are you talking about that quote that corpse wakes up grabs his crotch rips off his dick and we go right into the credits [SPEAKER_02]: What a way to end the equivalent of the final moment in front of their teeth.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a dream-like sequence that isn't actually real and it's just the pre-credits hurrah for the audience.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's the fourth wall breaking where you're just like, end a final scare.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not real.
[SPEAKER_02]: None of us are like, and then the corpse reanimated.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm still waiting for the sequel.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to see where they picked this up.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know how they continue this story.
[SPEAKER_05]: But one other...
That course looks great though, by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fucking perfect woman he made.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they could be...
In the bookcase?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like fuck.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hidden in the bookcase.
[SPEAKER_00]: So spooky.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all of a sudden.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like we're in a fucking Poe story.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it is decomposing in different ways.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like the head.
[SPEAKER_05]: The taste is really good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Cause that's what he got first.
[UNKNOWN]: Man.
[SPEAKER_02]: He took the hair from the swimmer girl, right, because that that body had long blonde hair and the set was as a kiss mom Say how would he get his mom's hair?
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess he goes into the grave, I guess the hair would still be there.
[SPEAKER_05]: One other important element for a Frankenstein film that comes in what it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: With the Frankenstein movie is lightning, now the pieces in a couple key moments has plenty of light, link him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, I really love the moment in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein, when Dr.
Frankenstein cuts up all those bodies with a chainsaw.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right, isn't that your favorite?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the plague, but also a chainsaw.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is what we mean when we say the Mary Shelley kickstarted the entire genre and a hundred or two hundred years.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's beginning to which every time anybody starts a chainsaw in this movie, it goes on the first pull.
[SPEAKER_05]: Even leather face can't start the chainsaw with one pull in Texas chainsaw 3D.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just such a heavy murder weapon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you really, it really has to be part of your M.O.
[SPEAKER_02]: for you to give a fuck.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it really isn't a part of it because it's got damage to the good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is to knife?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, and poison.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, you have to poison.
[SPEAKER_05]: He does switch the poison by the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know, chainsaw's a weird choice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's because he's trying to frame the ground's keeper Does he have presence of mine for that or are we thinking he's just like going crazy?
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not entirely sure I have no idea, but like he does have a nice lengthy conversation with the the ground's keeper at the beginning I'd like a prequel where we see him pre-murder-spray because like once again came once the ball [SPEAKER_02]: I want the boring part.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want who is this man?
[SPEAKER_05]: 90 minutes of him just like getting his professors degree becoming the dean of a college every once in a while.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe just a normal day to no.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll take a novelization as long as I don't have to sit through it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, it sounds like a perfect 10 out of 10 from Kim.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I honestly, this movie's trash, but it's so good.
[SPEAKER_05]: Trash is your brain.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, oh, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: This was so much fun to watch.
[SPEAKER_05]: Kind of feels like, I mean, obviously, it's still relatively new to us, but like, it's a movie that I always hear people recommend.
[SPEAKER_05]: I always hear people talk about, I see other podcasts cover it all the time.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there was like this, you know, nagging, feeling, they're like, oh, maybe we should be talking about pieces, but it's just like the timing didn't feel right and we're here now and God damn, new favor moves.
[SPEAKER_02]: For some reason I always lump this in with like being a valentine's day movie in my head Maybe it's just because of like all of the the branding and the marketing is so red And also the groundskeeper just loves his chance Absolutely, but yeah in my head It's all I've always seen it as like a valentine's day movie.
[SPEAKER_05]: Something about the puzzles too, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what a good gift.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but [SPEAKER_05]: there is something about pieces that is also present in slaughter high and it is not that it's the same producing team that was a happy accident that was something that I learned while reading up on slaughter high that I had a completely forgotten event that I honestly I forgot that we were going to be talking about pieces on this season there's like we got a whole list of movies we already we've already mapped out everything that we're going to be talking about I forgot that this was the next episode and I was so stoked to see it on the schedule before we sat down tonight.
[SPEAKER_05]: Um, and if you think you already know what the secret theme for this season is, there's a link in the episode description to bring you to a Google farmer.
[SPEAKER_05]: You can submit your guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: First person to get it right is guaranteed to prize back after that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be drawing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So even if it's later in the season than you think you know, it's still worth a guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be drawing even more winners.
[SPEAKER_02]: So get your thinking cap on.
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