We're starting well.

Our recruiting numbers are coming up.

Secretary Hegseth is talking to everyone, not just the generals, but I hear that he's talking to enlist it.

He believes that no one has monopoly on the truth.

Secretary Hegseth, as a storyteller himself, has gone on and he has made his previous career going and talking to everyone, trying to find the truth and not looking at any one source of it, and that is why he's able to move so quickly.

I've spoken with people in the administration who have a laser focused without getting tunnel vision on what's going to take to make sure that our service members have the resources that they need to fight, win our nation's wars and come back home safely, but making sure that we are able to sustain the fight, and then make sure that we're prepared to fight the wars of the future.

When you see the changing nature of war, we could find ourselves in a World War One style stalemate if we do not retain and maintain the technological edge on the battlefield and maintain our air supremacy and also make sure that we can project our power with our navy.

The Secretary of war is also working on to the new frontiers, making sure that we are able to integrate space and cyber into the new way of fighting.

America needs to focus on the things that will keep us safe.

We've been lulled into a false sense of security, and Secretary Hegseth, who's been to war, recognizes the great investment and sacrifice has required, and he's going to make that sacrifice on the front end so that my sons don't have to make the sacrifice in the future.

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I am pretty psyched because this guest is.

Someone I've been following, watching from afar for a long time.

Congressman John James out of Michigan is a remarkable person.

And yeah, it's a little It reveals about me that I appreciate hard workers, patriots, people who believe as I do in the American Listen to this guy.

He's got a bachelor's of Science from West Point, Okay, a master's from Penn State in supply chain management and information systems, a Masters of Business from the University of Michigan.

Commissioned Aviation officer served in the US Army Ranger, qualified APACHE helicopter pilot, commanded two APACHE platoons, and later served as a company executive.

Earned the Air Medal, the Army Commendation Medal, and Combat Action Badge.

And now he's a congressman and he's running for governor of Michigan.

I've always said this guy has the right stuff.

Now you're going to find out why Congressman John James is.

Next Congressman John James.

I've wanted to meet you for so long.

I'm such a big admirer, and I hate to start a podcast with this whole you know, Google got got love Fest, But I'm You've done so much in a short time of life.

And I love achievers.

I love people who work really hard and are fearless, and.

That's what you seem to be.

And now you're running for governor in Michigan, which I find really exciting.

How you doing well?

I'm doing great now, Michelle, because now I have that recording of you saying that, and I'm going to share it with my brother as soon as possible, because we've been watching you for a minute and we so admire the work that you've done over the years and your courage recently to be that voice, to be that light, and to be on your show is an honor.

I'm blessed and I'm excited to chat.

I am too.

Before we get to Michigan and what Michiganders need and want from their next governor, let me just add, I mean your background is pithy.

It is full, it is rich.

And then you get to Congress and I've talked to other Congress people who say, gosh, I got here, and I say, I can't believe I'm here, and then they go, oh, my gosh, I can't believe I'm here.

And so I wonder what it's been like for you, as an incredibly worldly and well educated human who's been all over the place and done a lot.

How do you feel about Congress now?

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As an incredibly worldly and well educated human who's been all over the place and done a lot.

How do you feel about Congress now.

Well, Congress is a special, special place.

It is something that was founded in compromise.

I think that it was developed with divine inspiration, and I think that we would do well to get back to the truth, to get back to that core, and to remember that we are a constitutional republic, to remember that we have a dark world history and we have a dark human nature, and America was founded as a result.

Of learning lessons from the past.

We understand that it's we the people who give the government its power, not the other way around, and recognizing that we have an awesome duty to continue our service is what animates what I do every single day.

I work with some.

Pretty talented people in Washington, d C.

And having a Republican majority actually get things done.

These are things that are really cool, like being able to execute the one big beautiful bill, being able to get that across the finish line and record time, being able to vote to keep the government open so that we can continue to keep our promise to the American people on this past month.

Sadly, we still have some people on the other side of the aisle who we need to convince.

But it's okay.

It's okay.

We're going to continue to work to make this a more perfect union, to serve the people who sent us there in the first place.

Well, I hope by the time this podcast drops we will have an open government.

But in the meantime, you mentioned the.

One big, beautiful bill, and there are a lot of people who point to that bill and blame it for the situation that we currently find ourselves in.

And they talk about, you know, cuts to Medicare and Medicaid and healthcare for everyone.

And it seems to me that we have.

This Affordable Care Act passed under President Barack Obama and Obamacare to solve a lot of problems in the healthcare industry.

But if the numbers that I see are correct, healthcare costs have only gone up and they have to keep providing these subsidies and tax credits for people on Obamacare.

So I'm unclear, and I'm wondering if you can simplify it for us, how this, you know, the ACA, the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, whatever you want to call it, is causing more problems than it seems to have solved.

It's causing more harm than good, and it's turning out to be a massive payday for insurance companies that are that are reporting billion dollars every year top lines, and people still feel like they're squeezed.

That's unacceptable when you have a healthcare system that's so terrible that a healthcare executive, a father can be shot down in the middle of a street and a lot of people celebrate that tragedy, that that's an indication that the healthcare system has gone wrong.

It needs to be reformed, it needs to work for people.

And among the things that I'm doing in Congress is working on bills that increase transparency for prices, increase transparency for hospital states, so you know you have the power that it can't be cloaked from you.

Lowering prescription drug prices, making sure that we hold hospitals and insurance companies accountable, making sure you hold these PBMs accountable, these pharmacy benefit managers that are just another ruse to continue to siphon more money out of hard working American people.

We don't have a healthcare system in this country.

Sadly, Michelle, we have a sick care system in this country.

Everything from our food to the drugs that they continue to pump into our bodies are making things worse.

And until we peel.

Back the cloak that the powerful the lobbyists have put over the American people, until we return transparency and the ability for people to make their own decisions back to the American people, then it is it's we're heading down a dark road.

Those are the types of things that I was talking about that I'm proud to work with people on it.

I have a number of even bipartisan bills that we're working through because making sure that everybody has the ability to have affordable, accessible, quality healthcare are things that is super important to all of us.

You know, there are so many layers to that healthcare onion.

And it strikes me that it's kind of similar to what's happened to higher education, for example.

Once you know you had these government.

Entities getting involved in student loans and helping, it seemed like it gave license for the universities and colleges.

To jack up their prices.

We're going to get paid.

We can increase tuition because you know what, the government's going to loan all that money and they're going to pay for it.

We don't need to worry about it.

It seems like the same thing.

Is going on in healthcare, and the more you have government involvement, the further away it becomes from the individual.

Like you said, so transparency seems like something really basic, like if I go to the hospital, I should know item for it where my money is going.

But when you have the insurance company come in and say, oh, but don't worry about because it's going to be lower if we pay it, what do I really know there?

All I know is there's a price, there's an insurance company that kicks in, and I'm left with the rest.

But I don't really know if it's a fair price, am I.

I'm just coming at it from a really basic consumer point of view.

You know, Michelle, you hit the nail right on the head.

I don't trust a government that doesn't trust me.

I don't trust a business that doesn't trust me.

As an American citizen, I should be trusted to make my own medical medical decisions.

And so when you take that away from me by saying I'm going to play a shell game behind the scenes to try to bleed you for as much money as possible.

And most commonly, when you look at these these the pharmaceutical companies, most of their money comes from federal research dollars, but we pay the highest prescription drug costs in the world right here in America.

When you look at these colleges and universities, most of their money comes from federal dollars, but we still have students who are struggling with student loans with no accountability to these universities that are in this arms race where it's the race to the bottom.

You have these insurance companies that are overwhelmingly getting paid by the taxpayer, and people feel like their quality of care access are going backwards.

This is design throwing good money after bad And the first thing we need to do is we need to return the power to the people.

As an overused term, but it cannot be overstated.

And you do that by increasing transparency in the costs of doing health care, the costs of education, and then you hold these massive, big organizations accountable to the individuals that they are supposed to be serving.

It's interesting because sometimes people want the power and sometimes people don't like it.

Seems to me on the.

Democrats side, they've sold this Hey, yes, power to the people, but we will take care of you and you can rely on us to get things done for you and to pay your medical bills and to pay your student loans.

And that sounds really good.

Or in the case of Zoron Mondani in New York, I'm going to pay for your childcare and your buses and all your transportation.

That sounds really good.

But that's never a good idea because that leaves the decision making to government.

And like you said, how am I supposed to trust a government that doesn't think I can handle myself?

That's right?

I mean, look look around the world.

I mean, I'm just believe your own eyes.

Please go out there on your own.

Find a monopoly that has ever worked for individuals.

Go look for yourself.

Find a communist society that's ever worked for the people.

Find a government that's ever gotten more powerful and people who've gotten more prosperous and more free.

You won't find it.

You won't find it.

America was founded that we have the power, and we put a constitutional republic in place to protect those rights.

When the American people continue voting for one party that believes that they have the solutions, that the party has better solutions than the people, then we're heading in a different direction.

Self determination, agency have always been things that we have gotten from God.

These are truth that we hold self evident.

All men are created equal, We're endowed by our creator a certain innailible rise that are among them life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

And these are things that we have for us as individuals.

If you have a.

Government that's seeking to step in and say I'm going to take those rights and responsibilities because I know how to make these decisions better than you, that's the wrong answer.

So the fundamentals, the start, the very basics, is making sure that we have a government that trusts the people.

Amen to that.

Now, a lot of people will point to the current president, the depend at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue and say he's a tyrant, he's an authoritarian.

I don't see the evidence for that.

I understand it's fun to shout those things and to say no kings, And again it's so silly because if you had a king.

You wouldn't be able to protest.

But you know it's I mean, it's pretty amazing, right.

So I just wonder how that messaging has gotten a foothold.

Do you have an idea?

Is it just the absolute hatred for Trump that has resulted in this kind of reaction.

That question makes me think of a movie Will Ferrell movie where he gets really drunk, a movie.

Called Old School, and he love that film.

He's going back and one of the lines is I.

Like you, but you're crazy.

That's what most American people are saying about.

Democrats right now.

You know, I might like you, but you're crazy.

These are the same people who are telling you that we have a king in Washington, DC.

Are also the same people who can't define a woman and think men can have babies any I might like you, but you're crazy.

We have Republicans who are trying to keep the government open.

You have Republicans who are trying to pay our service members, Republicans who are trying to pay our federal law enforcement office, Republicans who are trying to take care of women and infants the need, Republicans who are trying to pay We voted to pay our air traffic controllers.

And the list goes on and on and on.

And Democrats in the Senate have voted I think eleven times at this point to keep the government closed, and they're making this about something completely else.

They're trying to bring back Biden inflation.

They have a one point five trillion dollar wish list that they're refused to negotiate on while we keep the government open, continuing to keep the American.

People hostage again.

You know what, we had our No Kings protest last November, when seventy seven million of US voted to put President Trump won the popular vote over three hundred Electoral College votes.

That is what happens in a constitutional republic.

We elected a leader who would put our needs first.

We elected a leader who would put America first.

We elected a leader who would make America great again.

And within less than a year, we have things like no tax on tips, we have a secure border, we have peace in the Middle East increasingly, and these are just this is just the first year.

Michelle, So I wish, I wish that our fellow Americans would come together and recognize that we are seeking a more perfect union and we're doing what we can to make life better for everyone.

Lowering prescription drug costs, increasing transparency, having a military that can fight and win our nation's wars.

To lower energy costs by making sure that we have an all above energy approach, making sure that parental rights are above reproach and they cannot be impugned by the government.

The list goes on and on and on, but again the same crowd who's chanting in the street, no kings.

Really, frankly, has been the reason why Democrat numbers are crating is people can't trust them with common sense and that's a problem.

That is a problem for them.

You mentioned a couple things.

They're the military number one.

Pete Hegseth was a very controversial nominee, but he is now the you know, the Secretary of War.

The Department of War has now been renamed.

What do you make of that name?

Change from Department of Defense to Department of War.

First of all, some people find it too aggressive.

Well, as someone who's been to war, war is aggressive, War is very aggressive.

War is the last resort.

The first resort is you've used economic means to bring your adversaries to the table, You've used diplomatic means to bring them to their senses, and then as a very very last resort, you've use your military to bring them to their knees.

The purpose of the military is to kill people and break things full stop.

And unless we are prepared to do that efficiently, then America will always.

Be under threat.

That is the way of the world, and that is how we know that we need to stay safe.

Now.

Of course, America is the most generous nation there's ever been.

We give billions upon billions of dollars away, even to people who hate us.

We recognize the great role that we play in the great obligation that we have as a beacon of hope, as the shiny sitting on a hill.

But we will not be taken advantage of and we will not be weak on the world stage.

When Biden was in office, every time he left this country this open season on America.

But with Trump in office, I'm sorry, has anybody heard of Moran in a while?

Exactly?

Americans can walk around proud, we can walk around safe, and it starts with our strength at home.

I really appreciated Secretary Hegseth in his most recent address to the leadership of the military, and among the first things he led with was taking care of the soldiers, airmen, marine in sailors number one and then supply chain, making sure that we have a manufacturing base here that is capable of projecting that power all over the world.

We learned this way back with Hannibal Napoleon and even in World War Two.

What broke the Nazis spirit in World War II towards the end of the war was not that we have more bullets, but there are stories of Nazi prisoners of war who were saying that we were struggling to eat and the Americans were sharing cake and ice cream celebrating Christmas.

The Americans' ability to project that power, the American military might is right here at home in my district, right here in Michigan.

The arsenal democracy is part of projecting that power.

So that's a long explanation because I'm fairly passionate about protecting America and keeping America strong as a West Point graduate, as an APACHE pilot, as a combat veteran, and somebody who's actually been to war.

But I think that there's a lot in a name, and by changing that one name, I think it returns the focus on the purpose of the Pentagon and that was sorely needed.

And how do you regard I hear you saying that Pete Hegseth, you like that address that he gave.

There were people who criticized it, there were you know, but you represent a different, you know, voice in all of this.

You're people who are criticizing it seems to me to be a lot of people on the outside from more and more military people, active and veteran.

I heard complimentary stuff.

How has he done, how's recruiting going?

How prepared are we?

How what kind of shape is our military in?

Well?

I would say that after four years under Biden, we we have, We're starting well.

Our recruiting numbers are coming up.

Secretary hegseth Is is talking to everyone, not just the generals, but I hear that he's talking to to enlist it.

He believes that no one has monopoly on the truth.

Secretary hegseth Is is a storyteller himself.

Has gone on and he has made his previous career going and talking to everyone, trying to find the truth and not looking at any one source of it.

And that is why he's able to move so quickly.

I've spoken with people in the administration who have a laser focused without getting tunnel vision on what is going to take to make sure that our service members have the resources that they need to fight, win our nation's wars and come back home safely again.

The two things that he was focused on in all of my conversations was on taking care of service members and fixing our supply chain.

Again, we have a long way to go after what we were left with the Biden administration, but making sure that we are able to sustain the fight and then make sure that we're prepared to fight the wars of the future.

When you see the changing nation of war, excuse the changing nature of war, we could find ourselves in a World War One style.

They ill mat if we do not retain and maintain the technological edge on the battlefield and maintain our air supremacy and also make sure that we can project our power with our navy.

The Secretary of War is also working and to the new frontiers, making sure that we are able to integrate space and cyber into the new way of fighting.

So America needs to focus on the things that would keep us safe.

We've been lulled into a false sense of security, and Secretary Hegseth, who's been to war, recognizes the great investment and sacrifice is required, and he's going to make that sacrifice on the front end so that my sons don't have to make the sacrifice in the future.

It's amazing that we've been lulled there, given that it just doesn't Nine to eleven doesn't feel that long ago to me.

And then, you know, you look at October seventh and I remember people saying, could that happen here?

And it's like, well, it already did.

It happened on nine to eleven.

You know, I don't know how people can not see domestic safety, the safety period as the number one obligation of the government.

Now I don't want to run out of time.

I want to get to you running for governor of Michigan.

But we're having so much fun.

I know, I know, but this is going to be fun too.

This is going to be fun too because I think, I mean, you clearly demonstrate such leadership.

I hear people talk about Gretchen Whitmer in positive ways, and then she was in the Oval office and she held a magazine in front of her face or a folder.

She didn't want to be seen there, whatever.

So I have very mixed feelings about this person, you know, but that's neither.

Here nor there.

You are running on the Republican side.

Do you have the Republican nomination or do you have opposition at this point.

Well, I'm super excited.

It was just reported recently, just last week that I'm the favorite in Michigan well in the election.

But you know what, you know, the last thing we're going to do, the last thing we're going to do is kick our feet up.

Because we had a saying in combat complacency kills.

We're going to continue to get out there to listen before we lead.

We're going to continue out to go out there and hear folks concerns how we can meet their needs.

And the need is great, Michelle.

We have education issues.

We're forty fourth out of fifty in education.

We have housing issues.

We have a housing crisis all over the state of Michigan.

Michigan is growing at the second slowest rate in Union.

We're forty ninth out of fifty in terms of population growth.

Detroit, our largest city, one out of every two children is in poverty, not poor, not scraping by poverty.

One out of two children in Detroit.

Also in Detroit, only thirteen percent of third graders can read.

At grade level.

We have a situation in the state of Michigan where we don't have the time for an experiment.

We need experience and when you talk about preparing for crises that are coming, I don't know.

Maybe having a combat that are in the commander in chief of the Michigan National Guard would be a good start.

When you're talking about bringing economic development and making sure that people's personal economy is doing well.

Maybe the walking result of the American dreams.

Someone whose father came from the Jim Crow South to Michigan for better opportunities and now as a result, was able to grow his family business, creating hundreds of jobs and growing the family business larger and being able to help the community.

Maybe having someone being an executive of the state should be able to tell that story and understand some of the weight that are a large, small and everything business in between are facing.

Maybe when you have a state that has forty percent of his budget coming from the FEDS, having someone who's deployed to Washington, d c.

And will make sure that Michigan's the first to the troth and not continuously the last, and someone who won't shade their face when they go ask the President for things, maybe that might be a start.

Michigan is also a battleground state, and I want to be very careful and I want you to hear this very carefully.

Battleground states in midterms have an outsized role in determining not only the leadership in their state, but also the leadership in Washington DC.

When you look at past midterms, even as recently as the last one, when we have a week or a toxic top of ticket, when we have people who bring the rest of the Republican ballot down, then we jeopardized Senate seats and House seats that we should have won.

We saw that in Pennsylvania, we saw that in Arizona.

But we saw the opposite in New York, a blue state.

To be sure, New York a blue state, you had Lee Zelden, who ran a strong race and was able to pull five Republicans across the finish line in districts that Biden won.

That was the.

Difference in one hundred and eighteenth Congress.

That was the difference for our republic because we were able to do that in one hundred and eighteenth, we were the bulwark against crazy in Washington, d C.

We would have had Puerto Rico in a DC and four additional senators for Democrats in DC.

We would have had open borders and amnesty codified, we would have had a stuffed impact Supreme Court under Chuck Schumer.

But because we had a strong top of ticket in New York, in a blue state, we were able to protect the republic long enough to make sure that we could get our President Trump in office.

We have the same opportunity here.

Michigan is a much better environment.

Michigan has gone from a Democrat to Republican, Democrat to Republican, and now we're up.

Historically.

You have an issue set where people trust Republicans, and what we are focused on is economic mobility, public safety, government accountability, wellness, and academic excellence.

These are things that people trust Republicans on, and so Michigan is a much better situation.

We're already leading the top of ticket, and so I'm excited to make sure that we can take our positive message, a vision for purpose for the future of Michigan that will also massively benefit holding our seats in both the House and the Senate.

In after the menter, I want.

To ask you an obvious question here.

You talked about your dad coming from the Jim Crow South.

I've experienced this directly that there are a lot of people with your background and your skin color who find it difficult, find it challenging to be on the Republican side.

What are the challenges that you've faced in that regard.

Frankly, the biggest challenges that I faced in that regard are from people who look like me.

And it is challenging because, if I'm to be honest, in the past, Democrats have taken African Americans for granted and Republicans in the past hadn't even tried.

But recently under President Trump, not only did he come to Detroit eight years ago and say.

What do you have to lose?

And not only did he come to Detroit and deliver on his promises where we have the most economic gains for African Americans, just for African Americans, but for everyone around the country before the pandemic.

But President Trump has increased.

Those numbers because he's focused on things like making our economy stronger again, bringing our jobs back home.

Just recently, General Motors said they're going to put an additional two billion dollars back into the state of Michigan.

And Stillantis is bringing fourteen billion dollars back to the country, and a lot of that is coming into the state of Michigan.

As well.

These are jobs that are going to benefit all Americans, but particularly African Americans who are working hard each and every single day.

These are jobs that had left our communities and had gone to places like Mexico and China, and President Trump's bringing them back.

So people aren't dumb.

You also have the First Step Act.

You also have opportunity zones where you look at the incarceration race, addressing second chances for people and addressing recidivism and giving people a different and better shot at life.

You also have opportunity zones where economic growth small businesses will be able to thrive in areas that have been disinvested in the past.

And this is something that's very very important.

Particularly when you have people who are overwhelmingly in a cash based economy who need more of their own hard cash back in their pockets.

When you talk about things Republicans stand for like no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, making sure that you can keep more of your own tax dollars, these are fundamentally conservative ideas and ideals that work their work everywhere they're being tried, and so you can just see it the proofs in the pudding.

You look at blue states run by Democrat governors in cities and people are leaving.

And then you look at red states that are being led by Republicans and people are going to those places.

You look at inner cities run and control by Democrats for decades, and people are struggling to make ends meet.

People are struggling with their schools, they're struggling with their health care, They're struggling with their jobs.

And so when you look at this, they're struggling with violence.

Detroit is top.

I think what two or three in violent homicides, rapes, and this doesn't benefit African Americans.

Are anyone?

So, like I said, I think the Democrats in the past had taken the African American vote for granted, but Republicans haven't tried.

And I think that President Trump and the Republican.

Party is reaching out to each and every single American, regardless of your race, your color, your creed, or how you voted in the past.

I'm looking forward to going back home where I was raised, where my business is, and talking to my brothers and sisters.

And you know what, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was rejected.

Who do I think I am?

But I still have to show up.

I still have to listen, I still have to work, and I truly believe that if you do all the right things, that's how you earn trust.

And I think that people in Stay, Michigan, regardless of their race, regardless where they come from, deserve a governor who cares about them.

Here a great candidate.

Uh I.

I don't consider myself when I do these interviews to be you know, I like to ask questions that matter, but I'm also going to tell you what I think, and I I think Governor John James sounds pretty damn good where I'm sitting.

And I'm sitting in one of those blue states.

I don't know if you know this.

I'm in Minnesota, and uh it's it's dire.

So we we we hope, we we only hope we can have a candidate that like you.

But I don't know, John.

James, Michigan will welcome you with open arms.

Only Great Lakes State, Michigan will welcome you.

With open arms.

I appreciate that he is Congressman John James.

What's the website?

Real quick, John jamesimi dot com.

That's John jamesimi dot com where you can follow me on the socials, John James am I.

John James am I as in mission again.

That's this, you know, the little m I stand question.

Okay, Congress.

Been great to see you, Thank you so much.

I always end every podcast saying be brave and do good, and you have done both of those things in droves and we wish you the very best.

Thank you, Thank you, Michelle, You're awesome.

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