Hello, and welcome to Wildside, the official Mondo Macabre podcast, and it's the very first episode.

I am Ryan Verel, you may know me from The Disconnected, and joining me as my co host will be Chris Haskell, you may know him from They Live by Film.

Chris excited to do this with you.

Oh my gosh, I think you know Ryan.

I don't remember if this is the first conversation we had, but certainly in the first five when we were just kind of geeking out over labels together, and Mondo came up even back then, a few years back, and so this has just been years in the making and I'm super excited.

I'm excited to be able to gush in front of him.

I'm gonna say this because we do have somebody from Mondo here.

Of course, Jared Honor is probably my longest running friend from any of these labels.

Beyond that, Monda Micabre has done more for me behind the scenes than I think any label has.

Will Dodson and I are literally only working together because he was googling Monda Micabre and found my video.

Chris and I have geeked out over Monda Micabre.

I've gotten so many people to worship at the feet of Monda Micaber over the years because of how much I've gushed, so it is genuinely an honor.

Jared, thanks for being here today.

Well, thanks for having me Ryan and Chris.

It's great to see you as well.

Yeah, I feel like we're like a family now, the.

Three of us.

We've gotten together and talked like at least a couple of times over the or at least three or four times over the last few years.

It's been it's been really nice.

And thank you for that, for that wonderful intro.

Yeah, that's it warms the heart to hear people feel so passionately about what we do in all honesty, not being snarky, not being completely you know, it's really it's heartwarming to hear all that you.

Joke about the family aspect.

But that's the thing that I've always loved about Monta Micabre.

It is this, I don't know, like conjoined feeling.

All of the titles feel of one mindset.

Everything feels curated beyond like what many of these other labels could dream to curate.

And because it's coming from you and Pete and everybody else that loves what they're doing behind the scenes for the special features and all that.

It feels like a group of people just waiting for their offerings from the Mondo Micabre gods four or five times a year.

It is, Yeah, it's it is a special sort of chemistry that Pete and I have.

We're very like minded as far as the kinds of movies we like and the kind of approach that we have and they and how that sort of sets us apart from a lot of other labels.

Not to cast dispersions on the way any other label does anything, but you know, we really have very strong ideas is about what's right and what's wrong, especially when it pertains to us, and how to do it.

So it just so, yeah, we we really want to have our label have an identity beyond just you know, oh, there's they sell cool movies that we like.

You know, what we want to manual, what we want to manufacture in our fan base or in our customer base is people who will come back repeatedly because they trust us.

You know.

So it does become sort of like a family like a family thing where it's you know, oh, I know I'm going to get whatever they're going to put out because I trust them and their taste because it's sort of in line with mine too, So that's that's really what we go for.

You know, there's a lot of podcasts, as you said, and a lot of writing about the label and about Pete's background, but I mean, just for the sake since we're doing this in kind of episode one here, I mean, the book was written in nineteen ninety eight, is that right?

Yeah?

I think so.

I would have to check, but it was sometime in the mid to late nineties.

Yeah, and he was obviously, you know, Pete was kind of around world cinema for years even before that.

But this brand of Mondo Micabre and kind of the vision and what y'all are doing has been around for nearing thirty years now, right, which is kind of cool.

And yeah, and it really is.

I mean, you know, I include myself because you know, I you know, I'm a big part of it now.

But the brand, the Mondo Micabro brand, really is Pete.

It's really down to that book and his own sort of personal travels, both like travels through world cinema and travels through the world.

He did a lot of traveling and stuff too, and you know, and made contacts and you know, traveled to India kat he he told me.

I don't know if he wants me repeating things, and I won't go into much, but like he told me about traveling through like some of the frontier parts the frontier provinces of Pakistan, Wow, not too long ago, and just you know, crazy things that happened.

So I mean he's you know, he walks the walk and he talks the talk and it's sort of that that experience is what Monda Micapro grows out of, you know, not just the fact that he watches the movies, which is which is basically me, I haven't really done that much traveling, but also living and experiencing and being with the people that make the movies and the cultures that make the movies, and that's it's really interesting to me.

And that's you know, a lot of what makes Monda Micabro special.

I think.

The title of the podcast Wildside comes from the tagline for Monda Micabro the wild side of world cinema, and this is something that the label has delivered on for years.

And of course world cinema, including the US, but primarily a lot of European, a lot of India and everything else around that part of the world, and I'm excited to see what we have coming up in the future.

But also should probably just catch up a little bit on the past year or so, because it seems like you've settled into this really interesting groove with these bundles and stuff selling out twenty minutes after you post them online and all these people discovering you over the pandemic.

How's how's the last year felt, you know, just success wise for the label.

H it's felt good.

It feels like we've hit in some ways.

It feels like we're sort of hit a plateau, a very sort of safe, comfortable plateau.

We sort of know what is going to sell better and what we think is going to sell not as better, but but we're sort of okay with it because we're there's less of a mystery now and we sort of I think in the last year we've sort of come to a place where we're just we're we're out to be us, you know, We're comfortable with the fact that, you know, maybe we're not going to sell six thousand cops in two months, you know, or or whatever you know, or that you know, we have stuff that may not even sell twelve hundred copies in a year, which is like, there's a couple of things that I can think of like that.

But that's okay because we do sell enough that it we're not you know, we're not losing money on it, and and it's something that you know, and stuff continues to sell and we people find an audience.

It will find an audience over time.

So I think we've found, like you said, we found a groove where we feel good about the size of company we are because we're still just two people, two people plus farming out some stuff here and there.

We're not like a big, a giant, you know, We're not like a there's not twenty or thirty employees that you know need to be fed.

It's just me and Pete and you know, and that has its limitations.

But at the same time, that means we can sort of keep things small and do just the sort of weird little things that we want to do, and may we not feel as much like, oh, we have to find a big film, you know.

We do.

I mean, we still do just in the course of the movies that we love and finding good deals, but it's not as much about that it's more about like finding the weird little niches that we can fit ourselves into and just sort of going with it, you know.

So it feels good.

It feels it feels good.

I mean sometimes I because I'm on the front line for direct sales, I sometimes I go augh, I wish, I wish some things were selling better, and I you know, I even sometimes lament that online.

But I get over it.

It's because it's cool, man.

It's it's we are at a good spot and we we do good work and uh and we have like this core group of audience, this core audience that will buy whatever the hell we put out, whatever kind of nonsense we want to shove down your throats.

You're like more more so we so it's good it works out.

One of the things that Ryan and I talk about fairly often when your name comes up is that y'all have done this really nearly impossible thing of putting out movies that nobody's ever heard of and just basically asking people to trust you, and they do.

Like you said, right, that's kind of a I mean you just kind of said it.

Of course, not everything that's like you said, you have some bigger titles, but a lot of the stuff you put out.

I think people just trust, like, Okay, if Jared and Pete give this the stamp, then I'll just trust it.

And that's tough, right when you're fighting for dollars.

I think it's a very impressive part of the brand.

Yeah.

I mean sometimes it's disappointing that, you know, a movie that we might really love might not seem to find its audience.

But it's really galvanizing that something like The Fear, the Greek movie The Fear from last year that we did like that found It's not a huge seller, but it's found an audience.

You know.

It's something It's something that I had never heard of before Pete brought it to the table.

Although I was.

Surprised, you do.

I did see some people like being, oh wow, what a great movie.

I'm really surprised someone's putting this out.

So it was it did some people didn't know about it, but it's the kind of thing that most people don't know about and it's a fantastic movie, and it seems like a lot of people have found it and really are enjoying it.

So that's you know, that's what's that's what excites us.

You know, is exactly that is finding these movies that maybe a lot of people haven't heard of, and you know, and hopefully they enjoy them.

Just recently, you guys did the Warrior Collection, which is a little box set of films, one of them was an upgrade from a DVD release, and then the Max Peaks Collection.

How'd that do?

How's the response been?

How's the fan base feel about it?

The Max Peak of Section Duct is a little bit slower of a thing that's sort of like euro erotica if it doesn't have any sort of very like hard exploitation or horror elements.

It's a it's a bit of a tougher cell.

But it does have its audience.

And those movies are like, you know, psychedelic delights in and of themselves.

They have very cool, little weird artsy touches to them.

It's they're they're fun, and so it's gonna it has its audience.

But really exciting is The Warrior.

The Warrior has gotten a lot of attention.

It was not really a huge seller on DVD, so we weren't really sure what the reaction was going to be, but it's it's gone really well.

The as of right now, the limited edition is sold out.

You know, that's only fifteen hundred.

But that's that's pretty good for you know, for you know what's obscure Indonesian action fantasy movies.

You know, that's that's not bad.

So I'm very pleased with that and with the reaction to that, and it's I'm a huge fan of all three of the movies in that set, so it's it's really exciting to just to just be able to put them out into the world.

I'm so glad we're talking about The Warrior.

I'm in a group with with Ryan where we chat when we're not talking about movies on official podcasts, we're always chatting about movies.

And I was posting screenshots of The Warrior.

That transfer is beautiful, Like I was trying to figure out what to compare it to, and I was like, it's a well preserved Italian genre film.

Like I didn't know exactly what to say about it.

It's just it's a beautiful transfer.

And you know, I grew up in Indonesia.

I know the worst thing for film is humidity and heat, and like that's that's what Indonesia is.

It's humidity.

Sure, how good that looks.

Yeah, no, thank you.

I think it looks really great too.

What's funny about that?

And you're right about preserve film preservation in Indonesia, it's not great.

And I know they had a lot of their film film archives have actually been stored in Hong Kong, which honestly is not another not so great part of the world for film, you know, for you know, it's also very hot and humid there, so there are a lot of issues.

In fact, like back in the day, we uh Pete was going to do an Indonesian movie called The Snake Queen, Yeah, which is a really terrific movie.

But they had the negative pulled I think from a lab in Hong Kong and shipped to the UK, and when they opened the canister, all of the film reels had fused together, had completely like it was just this mass of unusable, melting together celluloid.

So so yeah, so that's it.

That that one is never unless someone else, unless you know, there's some other fairly good film material out there, and I kind of doubt it that one's never gonna happen.

So it is.

It is.

It is a it's a very precious thing that the that the film quality we have for the Warrior the first one, the Jackasonbung movie.

Is as good as it is.

And what's funny about that transfer that you that you admire so much and you should because it looks great, is that it is almost twenty years old.

Who really?

Wow?

Yeah?

Yeah, So we got a new transfer done, a new like we got what Rappie, the company that owns the Warrior movies, they sent us all three and they had you know, redone for basically what they when they do HD scans, they do them sort of for Indonesian television, so they have that very you know, smoothed out look.

It's it's not quite what US HD home video boutique label standards are up.

So so we were looking at him and going, oh, you know, I guess we're just gonna have to deal with this.

That wasn't possible to really get it scanned again.

And then Pete was just looking at the transfer that he did for DVD years ago, which was an HD transfer, and he was just like, this is ten times better than this.

App this brand new, like two K restoration of the film.

So we went with that and it was absolutely the right call to do because it literally does look ten times better than the newer transfer.

So you know, new isn't always better.

So if someone you know, it isn't always great to tout something as being a brand new restoration because people funck shit up all the time, you know, all the time, James Cameron, so you know.

So yeah, so it's it's real.

It's really fun.

And honestly, I've been waiting for people to like bring that up to me because if we didn't advertise, because I knew if I advertised, you know, the Warrior being from a twenty year old HD transfer, people would be you know, hanging me in effigy, you know, from the street street lamps all over the world.

So I've been waiting for people someone to bring that up so I can be like, ah, you see, it can be good.

But yeah, no, that's that's a twenty year old And what's funny is Sillip.

Also, the blu ray we did of Syllip was also they couldn't do.

I think the negative was just way too damaged at this point.

From the Philippines, another the country, yeah, another country that's hot and humid and has not a great you know history of film preservation.

I don't think they couldn't really do anything, so we just use it and nobody noticed because it's beautiful.

It still looks great.

And there's another one, another Indonesian movie from that same batch that we're going to be doing on blue ray next year, but I'm not gonna I'll keep that secret for now.

Okay, Well, one of the cool things about that release in particular, I know we have a lot to cover, but just so people can, you know, hopefully buy it and check it out.

You got Joko anwar On who you know he's a Listening to that interview, I was just sitting back and kind of enjoying listening to him talk about movies because he strikes me as like, what's the guy Ryan that you always make fun of me for not liking the British guy the Cornetto trilogy.

Oh, Edgar right, Right, he's an Edgar Wright type.

I mean, I think he's a more talented filmmaker than Iggar right, But he's an Edgar Wright type in the sense that like he just loves movies and like you can see it in the way he talks about film.

He just like he was just this kid and he would walk like forty five minutes a day to go watch a movie and the only theater that was close by, and like he grew up watching martial arts and what did he say, martial arts and horror because that's what they played.

And I don't know, I just like it was such a cool interview to see this guy who's now a pretty established director in his own right, just geeking out about the movies and when he saw The Warrior and I loved it.

So it's a cool feature.

Yeah, it is really cool.

It's really cool when you get sort of these international filmmakers like him who sort of grew up in the culture that's now being sort of you know, their films are sort of cult fetishized now and they have this very street level appreciation for it.

It's also neat, Like if.

You ever hear Garamle del Toro talk about old Mexican movies, it's kind of a similar thing.

Yeah, yeah, it's really great.

He was really enthusiastic about being a part of being a part of this release.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't have much to say about that, but he is a talented filmmaker and we were very happy to have him on board.

That's cool.

Well, as a as a great segue.

One of the reasons we all wanted to start this podcast is to get other people who are likewise excited and enthusiastic about Modta Micabre releases, to get up to date information stories behind some of these restorations, excited about some of these bonus features.

As we're posting this, just a few hours ago, we had our next round of titles that were unveiled for the world.

So let's break through this.

First of all, when are these all going to be up for pre orders so people can hear that now and get that burned into their brain.

Sure, So Thursday August twenty ninth, nine am Pacific time, twelve New Eastern eleventh Central Time.

If you live in some far flong corner of the world, just google it.

You'll find it.

Google knows where you are, and you can just you can just type in a time and Pacific time zone and it'll tell you what time zone that well, you know what time that is where you live.

So at the Mondo Micabro Big Cartel, So nine am Thursday August twenty ninth, you'll be able to pre order these three either separately or as a bundle as usual.

So so that's where they go, and we're hoping everything is pretty far along production wise, so we're really hoping this will be another sort of you know, two weeks to a month wait on the pre order before things start shipping.

So well, let's break each of these down.

Our first one, let's go into Tokugawa sex Bin.

Yeah, tell us about this one, Jared.

Well, first thing I'll say is that sort of like sex Apocalypse.

When you go to the big cartel, it'll be Tokugawa s Span.

I'm not gonna have people paying for sex so to speak, on PayPal, because we'll get hit, we'll get shut down.

So just if you go to if you go to the Big Cartel Thursday morning and you're like, where's Tokugawa sex ban, all I see is Tokugawa s.

Ban angry angry email, angry email.

If the right titles in there, Manda Micabra will get sex bann.

Yes, yes, exactly, So yeah, Takugawa sex ban is.

It's a movie directed by Norfu Musuzuki for Toe Studios nearly seventies, seventy two.

I think very wild, very just weird, Like if you like any of the sort of Eruguru films that taru Ishi did, like Joys of Torture and stuff like that.

It's not quite as like that.

It has a softer edge in a way to those films, but it is definitely in the same vein.

It's a bit and it's a bit wackier.

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of that era of Ishii films that he made.

They're often a little too literal and sort of self serious in a way.

It's sort of weird because especially considering some of the wacky movies he a little bit later.

But so this one is a little bit wackier.

It's a little bit it's very sleazy, it's very i I it's it's almost I want to say, it's funnier.

And I don't want people to think it's like a sex comedy because it's not really.

But it it It has these kind.

Of gleeful odd elements that are funny and I think intentionally so.

But it's a it's a it's a really weird, wonderful movie.

Uh.

And if you like pinky violence, if you like that sort of era of toe films, uh And I think if you like Manda Macabre, you probably do like Pinky Violence, You'll you'll find something to enjoy here.

And it's it's a it's a it's a period film.

And to a Toe had a history of doing period films.

That was what was really popular at TOE, So they had a studio set up in Kyoto that was specifically for the making of period films from the fifties on, So they're there.

Period production are like you know, Chef's Kiss, They're they're really beautiful, They're really all the costuming is great, the sets are amazing, and so you get that high they're very inexpensive movies, but you get a very high level of production value from what they were doing.

So the movie just looks fantastic and as weird as hell on top of that.

So so that's sort of my sales pitch on Tokugawa Sex Man.

And if you like other Suzuki movies like like School of the Holy Beast or something like that, you'll you'll find something to enjoy with this one, for sure.

The alternative title for this one, I was cracking up.

It's the Eroto Maniac Daimyo.

Yes, I came this close to insisting that we use that title or I was gonna say the Eroto maniac lored just because the daimio is a lord.

That's just the Japanese word for it.

But I sort of backed off a little bit ed.

I don't know why.

Eventually I got sick of saying the auto maniac lord to myself and just thought Tokugaw sex Band, which isn't much better.

It just it maybe rolls off the top.

I can't go into too much depth, but there's a reason I'm watching all of those Ehy films at the moment.

Yeah, there's eight of them that are sort of like key in that kind of central era for him around torture.

So I'm going through those right now, and it's crazy, like the first one is called Tokugawa Metro Lineage something like that, and there's no disc of it, there's no like you have to know people to get a copy of it, and and it looks awesome, like the transfer is amazing.

So I'm just your point, Like every the quality is very high from that studio well.

Sort of as a as a sort of contrast to a lot of like we were talking about with Indonesia, Japan has has really done a pretty good job of preserving their films at least from that, from like the sixties or so onward, it's a really tragic story.

If you get anything anything like from pre war or during the war, it's you know, it's a really horrible story.

But sort of after that, they did a really good job of preserving their film elements, and to A in particular, just about everything looks looks really good, but which and what's fun is you know, a lot of that A lot of the TOA stuff is that I think there's a toe A channel that you can get like like in Japan you can get on Amazon Prime or something like that, and a lot of that stuff.

A lot of the stuff that floats around on torrent sites is you know, it's like fan subbed copies from you know, taken from and you.

Know, full disclosure.

I mean, some of the movies that I've signed from to A, I've like sampled you know, you know, from Torrent sites, from fan subbed copies, you know, just making sure.

Like you know, that's how I, you know, figured out that.

Haunted Turkish Bathhouse was was going to be a future cult classic, just because you know, I downloaded it from from A from a certain site that I think we all we all use so but yeah, so that yeah, stuff looks great Untilkogawa sex Man is going to look is going to look really great.

Well, and I think the write up on this film is going to get a lot of people.

One of the things that stood out to me is the way you wrote it's an astonishing mixture of historical epic sexploitation, grand gignall glore, and political intrigue.

Like that's kind of describing the perfect film.

Yeah, it covers everything, doesn't it.

Yeah.

Yeah, Just and just to be clear, I that that actually was that little description was written by Pete, So Pete.

Pete gets all the credit for that he did.

He writes up most of the the back cover copy, the synopsis is of the films.

So but yeah, that's and it's yeah, yeah, so what else do you need?

Speaking of that back cover, we got an audio commentary with Jasper Sharp, who always does remarkable work, especially with these Asian titles.

Yeah, he's, you know, one of the one of the experts, and we you know, we keep going back to him.

He knows his stuff for sure, inside and out, especially when it comes to the sort of sex film side of Japanese cinema.

I mean, there's few people that know more than Jasper.

And then we got an interview on here too with the critic and film historian.

Yeah, I think it's a guy who mostly he's he's done a lot of history of TOA, so that's a lot of that's his background.

Honestly, it was that was somebody that that extra is produced by Tom Mess.

Who's done a lot.

Like basically, if you're buying anything Japanese, especially if it's like from Eureka or Radiance or us Uh, it's going to have extra features produced by Tom Mess.

He's a Dutch guy who lives in Japan, and he yeah, it does great work and is also he wrote he wrote books about Sukama know and Uh and Takashi mike A, and so he's he's an expert in his own right and does commentaries and stuff too.

But he also you know, films and writes the questions up and everything for these for these extras.

So he did that honestly, I like I said, I don't know too much about that particular critic.

It was someone he found that was sort of an expert in TOE and his sort of just can speak about where toe was in the early seventies and that sort of crisis phase for the Japanese film industry when everyone didn't know what to do, so they were just doing naked ladies doing really insane things, and that was that was that was what was drawing audiences at the time, so.

Well also drawing audiences.

Just In Coffee's artwork for this as usual stupid looks incredible.

I know.

Yeah, he always knocks it out of the park.

There's a reason why we keep going back to like it's it's funny I have for for me on Eagle with my partners Jesse and Brian, we talk about uh cover art all the time and like they're kind of like people send they send me stuff to they send Jet stuff to Jesse all the time, Artists asking for work and you know not I'm not going to disparage anyone, but it's just I never see anything that I like.

I like, It's really really difficult.

So that's why I in particular always want Justin to do it.

Like everything that I that I have a hand in is because he's just he just knocks it out of the park.

It's really beautiful.

He no one captures likenesses like he does.

I think in the in the sort of in the the pantheon of all the boutique home video cover artists, he's the best, especially as far as that concern.

It's really but it's really beautiful.

It's really great last.

Thing to cover for this one.

For those that are going to be purchasing U the the limited red case edition, tell us about that booklet, what's exciting about that?

And maybe some of your art cards?

Uh?

Yeah, the art cards were just from some uh I think, just promotional stills from the film.

Lots of nudie Lady stuff.

If you're if you guys are if anyone who's a big fan of Duty Ladies, which is probably every single person listening to the podcast, So yeah, they're they're really cool.

Nothing mind blowing, but they're they're really cool.

The booklet, though, is one of the best booklets that I think we've done.

It's a guy we've never used before.

He was recommended to us by Jasper.

His name is Dimitri Iani.

Hopefully I'm pronouncing that name right.

Apologies, Dmitri if I get it wrong, if I dispin to your last name, Ianni.

He is.

I believe he is French and he is, among other things, an expert in pink film uh and has a special interest in Uh Nikatsu Roman porno.

Mm hmm.

But a lot of that sort of does crossover with what with to A.

Toe and Nikatsu were sort of competing with each other in that early seventies for that sort of extreme erotic stuff that they sort of copped from the independent productions of the sixties when those were the only things suddenly making money.

Toe and Nikatsu suddenly switched to basically just doing these exploitation movies.

So that's sort of his area of expertise, and I learned so much from you know, I'm fairly well versed in to a exploitation, but there were a lot of things that I had no idea about that he that he talks about.

So for people who are looking to read these booklets to get actual, hard and fast historical info, you can't do better, honestly than this.

Excuse me, They're they're really it's good stuff.

One of the things that I know that you get frustrated with.

And I always laugh because, like clockwork, with every announcement, we see about seventy four people in the comments everywhere, see when's the next Mondo Macabro yallo coming next.

The dext announcement is a Spanish yallo, The Killer is Not Alone, from nineteen seventy three.

Yeah, yeah, The Killer is Not Alone.

Yeah.

Kind of a fun little film, sort of not really not really talked about much in the pantheon of gilli.

There's there's sort of a lot of movies like that.

There were so many movies made in Spain and mostly Italy at that time that you know, sometimes films sort of fall through the cracks, and this one wasn't directed by any known director.

It was a guy who mostly made TV stuff and was a film critic, but this was his only actual feature film.

And it's a very cool, sort of downbeat, not nearly as glossy as some of the bigger Italian films from that time.

It has more.

Maybe slightly sort of gritty feel to it, like a lot of Spanish films do from that time period.

So yeah, there's it's it's just a very very cool film.

I don't I wouldn't necessarily say that it is like a top tier jallo.

I'm not going to try and fool anyone into thinking I'm not going to oversell it, but It's a really cool, slick little film.

Great score, great cinematography, some cool kills.

It might be more.

In a way more like the sort of pre Argento Giali, the sort of like Umburda Lenzi things, although it's definitely influenced by the more slasher like Argento Martino films.

There's definitely that element.

So but yeah, it's a really cool little film.

I'm really excited for people to to check it out because I think, you know, if you're a fan of this sort of thing, it's you'll just you'll you'll eat it.

You'll eat it right up.

It's tailor made for you.

This is one of the fun things I like about the movies y'all put out is not only are you discovering new films, but you're discovering kind of part of that culture.

The lead actor, Lola Flores, was an extremely popular like dancer and singer, and you know, like I think she had she had quite a few film credits as well, and so it's just fun to you know, like you're getting this like you're kind of being dropped right into the middle of Spain and the year this comes out right, and just getting a sense of like people in nineteen.

Let's see what year was this movie.

It was it's like seventy three, yeah, three, seventy four.

So you know, you're sitting there in Spain like you're gonna go see the new Lola Floras movie.

You know, that's someone lost the time, right.

I know.

And that's what sort of that's really one of the most fun things about these old foreign movies is just is getting exactly that.

That's sort of the sense of time and place.

And American movies too, especially like independent productions, sort of street level movies.

You get just a very good sense of the culture at the time that sometimes you don't get from bigger glossier films, you know, and that's certainly true of this.

And there's there's a definite feel, a definite vibe to Spanish productions from this from this time period that's really unique.

In a special features on this one, anything that you're super excited about.

Well, I haven't seen any of them, so I can't.

Yeah, yeah, I don't.

I don't have much to do with building.

I mean sometimes I corral people for some of the talent for the extras.

I have more of a hand in the toe a stuff that we do I didn't do anything for this one at all, but I know Troy Howarth and Rodney Barnett, which are both They're both fantastic people, and they're doing a commentary.

I haven't heard it yet, but I'm sure it's great.

Uh So they, I mean they always do, always do, still work so well.

And Angel Sola from sggested an interview for this one.

Angel's been doing all kinds of these releases over the last year with the Severn, and a couple of other labels have used Angel as well.

I think, yeah, yeah, he did, he did.

He's done a couple of other things.

I think for us, you might have done something on Fate and Morgana maybe one of them, or Sex Apocalypse one of the one of those Spanish movies that we did earlier this year.

Uh yeah, A really really cool, knowledgeable guy.

I mean, obviously someone in Spain and trying sort of very well versed in Spanish film culture, so it's always worthwhile to have his sort of perspective on things.

On these things, isn't Angel?

It was Fat and were Gana was it?

Isn't Angel the one who runs like a film festival or something as well.

Yeah, he's he he's.

A big wig at the the Sitches, the Fantastic Film Festival or whatever the fa you know whatever.

Yeah, that's like been going forever, forever and ever.

Yeah, he's a he's one of the directors, one of the coordinators, managers something for that.

Yeah.

Looking at this package, very like classic Mondo Macabro art.

I would say on this one, it's the same feeling of art that we've been getting for many of these Spanish titles.

Love the way it looks.

And then you got another booklet in this one of course on the limited edition, and you've got brand new writing by Ishmael Fernandez.

Yeah, it sounds like a great release.

Yeah, And I mean, like like with Dimitri's Blinders for Tookaga with sex Band, Ishmael Fernandez is is just someone who has he just has so much casual encyclopedic knowledge of the subject that he's writing about that it's just it can be almost overwhelming.

It's just incredible how much this guy knows about Spanish cinema.

Honestly, like he's been I mean, we don't ever consider anyone else for doing write ups for these Spanish films, no one, no one really knows more than than Ishmael.

And what's funny.

I don't know if he would care about me saying this, but what's funny is even though he lives in Spain, he's not actually even Spanish.

I think he's German and.

Ismael is not his real name.

I'm not going to give his real name because I don't know if he wants his real name known, but it's it's kind of funny.

He's he's a German guy, but is just absolutely you know, the go to expert as far as we're concerned.

Yeah, just in just incredible.

And can I backtrack a second about cover art the The The A side for that cover is sil Rix, who hasn't worked with us in a while, but he did He's done classics that he did like the Fan and Symptoms and a bunch of stuff back in the day.

Was especially when we were first getting started in Blu Rays.

He hasn't done as much stuff for us more recently, but I just wanted to point out first, I just wanted to make sure he was acknowledged and just that that is absolutely fantastic art that he has done for it.

I was really blown away when.

I saw it.

I think just to have him back in the fold and to do just something that beautiful, it really it really blows me away.

So I just wanted to make sure that he was acknowledged because he is a super super talented artist.

He does He's done more.

He's done a lot of stuff for like Arrow and other labels.

He's not been working as much for us, but I hope he does more stuff for us, because every time he does something, it's really it's really amazing.

I feel like this art is gonna make a lot of people happy.

It's very evocative, it's very yallow, it's I mean to be to be fair, and I know that we said this kind of earlier.

It's very Mondo micabro like.

It's because he's done a lot for you.

It's got this almost nostalgic feeling for the releases of five and six years ago.

It's great.

Sure, yeah, yeah, he gets us.

That's and that's one of the reasons, like the same with Justin why we why we want to use him is because he's very much on the same.

Wavelength that makes sense rounding out this slate we have.

Nineteen eighty six is The Hungry Snake Woman, which sounds just absolutely amazing.

Let's get into this one with Barry Prima.

Yeah, and Susannah.

Don't forget Susannah Horror, Indonesia's horror Queen Susannah.

If you ever, if you watch the old Mondo DVD of Queen of Black Magic, you know who Susannah is.

This is one of her best movies.

And I can tell you this is one of the best Indonesian movies from that era.

Like if you've been like if you're out there and you've been picking up our Indonesian stuff and then Indonesian stuff from Vinegar Syndrome or Severn or terror Vision, and you're sort of been building up this head of steam from all this craziness from these Indonesian movies, will prepare for it to blow with this one.

So that ended up sounding kind of weird, But Chris prepared to be really excited.

And and to have a great time with this movie because this movie's wall to wall nuts.

It really is just like if I it's almost a platonic ideal of the Indonesian supernatural fantasy craziness.

So it's just I can't I can't sort of praise it enough.

It's something that I sort of dreamt about us being able to do and now we're able to do it.

And shout out to David Gregory at Severn who helped us, who helped us sign Oh wow, props do where props are due, And David Gregory gave us a big hand.

With this one.

That's amazing.

Susannah.

Susannah is incredible.

She has such a great screen presence.

This is the same director as The Warrior, right, speaking of that.

Yes, yes, and uh and of Primitives if anyone has ever seen that one and a bunch of other really cool Indonesian fantasy and exploitation movies.

Yeah, somebody's asking me to try to describe the Warriors, and I mean, not the Warriors, the Warrior, and I was thinking, it's kind of like Indonesia's answer to Cat three.

I guess in a way it's not the perfect description, but you know, it's just this, You get that blend of violence and sex and comedy and it's just kind of I don't know, it's all and mysticism and sometimes just I don't know, it's a wonderful mix of things.

Yeah, a lot of the Indonesian movies and actually Hungry Snake Woman is a good example of that.

They're very much it's very much.

Doing a lot of the same things, but in the Indonesian vernacular film vernacular that Hong Kong was doing with, not necessarily like the category three label comes later, but a lot of the stuff that was being done in the early eighties with movies like Boxer z Omen or Seeing of a Ghost or Ghost Nursing, which Vinegar Syndrome did not too long ago, and a lot of others, a lot of things like Holy Flame of the Marshall World, the Shaw Brothers found just these very wild or zoo Warriors of the of the Magic Mountain, the Joy Hawk film, just these sort of very wild either horror or fantasy movies or movies that have a little bit of both and have sex and have martial arts and have all of this just this heady brew of weirdness that it's it's like, so if you enjoy those sort of Hong Kong movies and you haven't tried any of these Indonesian movies like The Warrior, or like Sentet that Vinegar Syndrome did, or Satan's Slave like Severin did, or Hungry Snake Woman, which we're about to unleash upon an unsuspecting world like you do you do, You do yourself a favor and check out some of these because they they are on that same vein, but they have a very specific Indonesian feel that no one else did.

And that's what's you know, it's what's really cool about exploring movies from specific countries.

As you get clued in, even if you can't quite articulate it, there's this there's a definite quality that each country's like lower budget commercial substrata of filmmaking sort of achieves.

And it's really cool to see it.

And it's really cool flavor that you can sort of get a taste for.

You know.

I I love this stuff.

I kick it enough of it, So yeah, I'm really excited about this.

When I think this is the best movie from these three, I hope other people agree.

Well we'll see, we'll see.

On this one, we got an English dub or the original Indonesian audio, so people got a choice there.

But what's most exciting to me when I see that Pete wrote the booklet on this.

I feel like he saw this film in the slate and went, you know what I need to do this one myself?

Is that about how it went.

No, No, it's not it at all.

He did it because we couldn't find anyone else to do.

I love that.

It's you know, I laugh.

If I don't laugh, i'll cry, because.

It's really hard to find people to talk about these Indonesian movies.

There aren't that many experts.

Yeah, to be honest, there aren't that many people who have I mean with like Japanese or Hong Kong's for Spanish films or Italian films, you got your pick of hundreds of really talented people who are out there doing really cool stuff.

The Indonesian stuff is not really like that.

It's been kept very almost underground.

It's there are some academic people.

We had some people working with us on like some of the extras for the Warrior set, but you know, it's it just it didn't really work out having any one of it.

There's like a couple of people literally, just a couple of people.

They just sort of it just sort of wasn't the right fit.

And so that was literally a case of where Pete just said, well, I have to do it myself because no, there's literally no one else to do it.

And luckily he is well versed in this stuff.

I mean, he's been to Indonesia, he's been watching the movies for thirty plus years now and doing research into them over the years, and you know, he's one of those kind of people that learned something and remembers it forever.

So you know, it just is he just I mean, so it works out well that we have someone like like Beete, you know, who can just sort of off the cuff come up with, you know, really good liner notes.

A lot of this will the liner notes for this one will be like some some insight into the sort of folklore background, the mythic background of the Hungry Snake Queen, and and then just sort of some bio bio sketches about some of the people involved in the production.

Very worthwhile stuff.

Stuff you won't probably find you you know, you definitely won't find on the internet.

So you know, it's definitely worthwhile.

This is a it's a subtle thing and might not even be fully worth calling out, but you know, these Indonesian movies are interesting because they're from a Muslim perspective, and like it's just a it's just it's subtle in the way that it kind of weaves into the dialogue, but you know they're praising Allah or when they greet each other, it's some of them lake or you know whatever like it just like this, it's like these little subtle things that are there that are not front and center.

And it's certainly not like a religious movie at all.

Right, it's just the cultural Muslim society, right.

And just again fascinating aspect that you can tap into.

And Indonesia in particular is really interesting because of that because it is a Muslim dominated country, so it has that strata, and it has a strata of influence from India.

I mean, there are still places.

In Indonesia that are Hindu that worship Hindu gods and the Hindu scriptures.

And then there's the ancient Meleae folk strata.

Then there's like the modern, you know, post sixty seven coup American influenced strata on top of all of that.

You know, it's which is really interesting to me as someone really interested in like Cold War history and politics.

So there's this just really again, I could I could go on and on.

It's it's really an interesting culture and all of those elements end up producing you combine it with their interests because you know, they were getting like Shaw Brothers movies and stuff, and so they took a lot of that, the models from the Shaw Brothers and other sort of Hong Kong and Taiwanese movies and just filtered it through all those cultural aspects that we were just you know, we're just mentioned you know, So that's it's it makes for a very unique film experience and cinema experience.

Well, I mean, I don't want to make this an Indonesian podcast, but you know.

I look, you could, we could scrap the whole Mando Macabro podcast idea and just do an Indonesian movie podcast.

Let's do it.

You know, I functionally learned the language in like two years.

And it's not because I'm some amazing linguist that they it's a there's again stratas right, there's a level of that language that's designed for trading, and so it's just very simple.

There's no gender, there's no tense, there's no there's just there's no plural like there's no book or books.

They don't have anything like that.

You just say book twice.

It's just a it's extremely simple version of the language that is very quick to pick up and so you know, by the time I left, I was fluent in Indonesian but and I could get around anywhere.

But then there was that academic level, which is extremely complicated, and that's when they bring in it's a very different language almost.

But yeah, it's just a super interesting culture and not even much.

I feel like I could I could talk about this with you all afternoon because because I think like there was I think that's sort of the that simple Indonesian language that you're talking about.

I think that was sort of almost manufactured in a certain sense by Suharto after they became Is it Suharto or Sukarno, I can't remember which is which.

Yeah, Sukarno Sukarno.

Yeah, really really really fascinating figure from history that lot enough people know about.

Unfortunately, like I say, I get his name mixed up with the really horrible guy that came after him.

So that I, as I understand, he sort of like because there were so many languages in Indonesia that he was sort of this this specific dialect that they sort of like imposed on everybody, uh, to sort of facilitate communication and trade and all and and these things like that.

So, uh, Brian, you can cut all this out.

No, No, this is all I gotta say.

I mean, I gotta be honest.

I'm gonna grasp onto this and say this is one of the reasons that I've over the years fallen from onto micabre because I have never been fortunate enough to travel.

I was raised in a house that was very milk toast, not do a lot of other cultures.

And I live in Kansas City, which is like the definition of flyover cities right now.

And when I look at all of these other cultures, I learned so much from these films and the booklets and the history that we learned through some of them that I've before, Like I was trying to look for an example earlier, but there's been a couple mono titles I've watched and then it sent me down like an academic rabbit hole for like ten days, and we'll all go not just like a couple of the filmmakers, but like, well, why did this film have to exist?

Why did somebody think I have to put this out right now?

And the booklet will start it, And I'm like, okay, but there was twenty years of government stuff that led up to this.

Let's go dive into that and then suddenly you're like an expert in nineteen seventy three Romania and you're like, where did this come from?

But it's amazing how we can learn so much from the background behind these films.

And that's why I love, you know, Pete writing the booklets for these, or the interviews or the commentaries that we get, or Jasper arp sharing his expertise, because without that, it's kind of just like a fleeting, eighty seven minute entertainment piece.

But with all of it, it is, it's it's enriching, it's something that can bring you so much more joy.

I I yeah, of course, obviously agree.

And that's I think that's one of the things that we really want to stress.

And that's you know one thing why why Like we always want to do the booklets and things like that.

Sometimes we worry, are is anyone even reading these?

And I think they are, but sometimes we do worry, And that's what.

But we want to have these things in here to bring that context to do everything we want.

We don't want it to just if we don't want you to see an Indonesian movie and just experience it as something weird, you know, is something bizarre.

Oh, that's so bizarre, because.

Of course it is.

I mean, it's totally outlandish and.

Any like Like I mean, it's it's just odd and you're not going to see anything else like it.

But there are reasons why something may seem strange, and it might be something very culturally specific, and like Lady Terminator might just seem like the most outlandish thing that like maybe just came out of the weird diseased brain of some random guy in Indonesia.

But no, there's all these actually specific folkloric elements that they're weaving throughout it, that they're weaving through their take on the Terminator, you know.

So it's it's very there's very specific reasons for things.

It's not we don't want to just exoticize cinema, you know what I'm saying, Like, we don't want it to be just something that is exotic for its own sake.

Like you can have this surface level, and I certainly I do.

I watch a movie and I go, oh my god, what this is the weirdest thing I've ever seen.

But it's like you said, you you get interested and you.

Go, well, why is that?

Like why are they why?

Why are they so obsessed with snakes, so like, why is that a whole thing in like every Southeast Asian country and South Asia and East Asia?

Why is that a thing?

And so you can find out why.

And it isn't just weirdness for its own sake.

It is very culturally specific or religiously specific.

And that's and that's fascinating to me.

That's fascinating to Pete and obviously fascinating to the two of you, and fascinating I hope to a lot of people who, like you know, are regular customers of ours or check out things we do.

I hope they're as curious as we are.

I think it's there's an element of becoming a fan of monomal cover that is self selecting.

I think somebody goes down a rabbit hole of a particular genre and ends up in Spain and then find something that you put out or something in Japan and find something you put out that that's there for sure.

One of the things I think we hope to do with this podcast is spread and find people kind of proactively and catch people before they find you on their own right, because there's you know, just as anything in life, you're either exposed to some of this stuff where you're not and one hundred percent of the time, it's better to be exposed to something that's different than what you already know, right, That's just, that's just I mean, you could take it across any discipline in life.

You know, it's better to be exposed to things that are outside of what you already know.

And I think that's why I'm such a champion like it, like kind of an inner soul level.

Why I love a lot of the discovery and kind of anthropological work that y'all are doing is because it's like it's not being done otherwise, right, and this is a chance to find something new.

So yeah, and I think that's one of the things that we want to do, is introduce people to things.

Yeah, because there is a sense and I you know, I think I've complained about this on your show before, Ryan, is that there is a lot of a lot of the audience that's been attracted to the boutique label scene in the last ten years.

There is a lot there's the core group of the core core, like a few thousand people that are really well versed in this stuff or or are really open minded to whatever we're putting out.

But there's a lot of people also that, you know.

And I want to cast dispersions, but I mean there's people that are very conservative in there.

And I don't mean that politically, I mean culturally cinematically conservative in their outlook on how they approach things.

And they don't want to see anything if it wasn't something that they rented on VHS when they were twelve, you know, you know, or there's things like that are things that they've seen a hundred times already.

Sure, And I think what we want to do is we want to engage with not only the people that are already sold, but with those people too, to try, at least on a certain level, say you try something.

Okay, here's a louci Old ful Tuo movie we're going to put out.

But then here's also Designated victim or in the Folds of the Flesh, And then here's Spider, and then here's you know, and on and on.

You know.

It's you can like you say, you can go you straight, you can go down that rabbit hole.

And what I'm hoping to do is find people that maybe don't even know that they are interested in this kind of stuff, you know, that they that that we can help them on that sort of path of discovery of this whole other world of cinema that's out there beyond John Carpenter and Daria Origento and you know whatever horror movie that's out right now that's making you really mad.

You know, there's a whole there's a whole world, and you know, and going way back in time, right to the very beginning.

You know.

So that's if if we have sort of a goal or a modus upperandi, I mean, it's sort of that is to highlight unusual parts of world cinema that maybe are not being as highlighted in other parts of this particular marketer or industry, you know.

And honestly, that.

Becomes harder and harder over time.

I mean, like you know, we talked about there's you know, there's four or five companies now doing Indonesian movies and and honestly, I mean we we sometimes feel the pinch of that we feel like some of these niche areas that we've been you know, championing for a long time or sort of you know, there's not as much room for us, you know, as you know we thought, I think, you know, Pete especially things fought for a long time.

Oh well we'll have that Indonesian stuff.

Well, we'll get to it.

Uh.

And then suddenly we had to because Severin was doing it, in Venitor Ceter was doing it.

A terror vision was so.

So it's it's narrow wer but we still we still are finding areas that we can that we can move into.

I'll give you, I'll we'll sort of we probably should be sort of wrapping it up, but I'll sort of start to segue into the end of this conversation by giving some hints about some of the areas that we're going to go into.

We're exploring films from Argentina right now.

Wow, some like seventies and eighties stuff from Argentina that's never you know.

There you can find torns of you know, some stuff VHS copies, but movies from We want to do more movies from Yugoslavia, from what was then Yugoslavia, usually Serbian language movies from Yugoslavia, you know.

So there there are still areas out there.

I still want to do a lot of Asian movies, although that's it's such a crowded market right now.

But I love the stuff so and there are aspects of Asian film culture that are not as widely explored, so we you know, we want to do it, and so we're we're going to keep doing it, and then you know, we keep doing things that are you know, there's more French movies, more Spanish movies, more Japanese movies.

Now there's areas that are well trodden, but there are always going to be things to discover within those well trodden areas.

So, you know, well, and maybe buried the lead a little bit here with this bundle that we've been discussing, the fact that all three of these are US home video debuts, is that that's mind blowing that in twenty twenty four, these type of titles are still able to suddenly be introduced to an audience that have possibly never seen them before, never had the opportunity to hold them in their hand, unless it was some you know, flea market bootleg that somebody happened to sell for a couple bucks.

This is the first time that they're getting proper respect, proper restoration, proper archiving in a way that shows how much modern micabre cares about everything on the back side of this.

Yeah, that's that's it's yeah, you're right, it was bearing the lead, because that is maybe the most exciting aspect of these three is that there've never been released in the US as official releases.

You know, and they're all.

I'm pretty sure all disc debuts too, like for the entire world.

So no one has ever released any of these movies on DVD, Blu ray, and certainly not UHD, So not even maybe laser disc for one or two for I don't know, but probably not, but probably not.

There's some I think all of them were probably released on VHS at some point, but since then, yeah, nothing so and we don't we can't always, you know, do that sort of thing.

Are Halloween Slate are all going to be movies that are upgrades and a certain of something or other, although I don't I don't think Cafe Flesh has ever had a real disc release.

I think it was only VHS.

But but the other two that we have, the other two big UHD releases, they're they're you know, they're there are things that were released on DVD at least, but we're upgrading them straight to UHD.

But we can't, you know, So it's it's it's a it's a good mix.

So that's you know, that's sort of you know, sort of what I was talking about before, you kind of put out hope to put out some things that are sort of bigger and will attract some people and that they will buy them and then go, well, what else is I like this?

So what else?

What else are these guys?

I got?

Right?

You know?

Oh, we have Sillip, you know, we have Woman chasing the Butterfly of Death.

You know, we have all kinds of weird stuff that you've probably never seen before.

So hopefully, hopefully, hopefully it works.

It seems to have worked out okay so far, but we'll see.

There's Yeah, you have loyal fans for sure, and people that will follow you anywhere.

And I just can't wait for people to discover I mean, the other thing that's happening is that there's a new generation of people discovering even the well known genre titles for the first time.

Right they're coming on now, and so the idea of having kind of an even playing field right now for new generation is exciting too.

And getting some of these is some of the first genre films they see.

Yeah, it's exciting.

Yeah, Yeah, that's that's That's a good point, because that's something that I was really worried about when I first started working, was like, God, is it only going to be old gen xers and above like me?

But then both of you guys are you're you guys are millennials, right, you're you.

You guys are about ten twelve years younger than me.

And then I know there's probably guys who are about ten twelve years younger than you who are who are getting into this stuff right now.

So that's that's it's really exciting.

That is, you know, you know, as we we all keep you know, crowing whatever we can, the death of physical media has been greatly exaggerated.

The stuff, the stuff really has a life.

That I think no one anticipated even a decade ago.

So it's it's fun, it's fun to experience and see happen.

So Thursday August twenty ninth, nine am Pacific, Right, Big Cartel dot Com.

Yeah, Brian, am I overstepping by moving on to the next section.

I think that's a fantastic summary of these titles.

I'm super excited about it.

Well, let's let's go ahead and reveal the format.

I think the idea for the format is that we're going to try to surprise each other every month, right, and we want to do it as a monthly show.

There's a few reasons for that.

I mean, I think it felt right.

I think when I think about Mondo Micabrea, you know, the kind of the rate at which I'll release titles is very good on my wallet and also allows me to watch them all, which I really appreciate.

The idea of a monthly show kind of felt right, And part of what we wanted to do in between announcements and then talking about the releases was to talk about back catalog titles because as we've mentioned just casually, ten different movies today that are in your back catalog, you know, there's so many more.

So we're going to try to surprise each other each month with movies to watch.

Maybe we've seen them, maybe not, but it's what we're going to be watching the following month.

So what I want to do is just I have two chosen in case Ryan and I picked the same one.

But I want to go back to the beginning.

And it's funny you talk about the fan earlier, because that was my choice for this month, was to go back to the beginning of Blu Ray and watch the Fan.

Fan is a great choice, and I know it's one that has a lot of fans out there, so I'm sure that many people will be happy with that.

I'm going to say, just so we can have a fun conversation, we probably should watch Lady Terminator, even though it's a DVD title.

I think it's one that you and I are going to have a great time waxing poetic about it.

So we will watch those two and we will be back with an episode in September to discuss like a review format on those in the special features.

Jared, how do you feel about Lady Terminator and the Fan?

Well, those are great choices, definitely to kick off talking about our whole back catalog.

If you know, if I had to select a movie on DVD, in a movie on Blu Ray to introduce to to introduce what we do to someone, the Fan and Lady Terminator.

Would be two high, high high recommendations.

Too high choices.

Yeah, those are Those are fantastic movies.

One is a lot of fun and the other one is.

The Fan.

Which is not to say the Fan isn't enjoyable, because it's very, very enjoyable.

It's just very dark and cold and disturbing and just but it's fan.

I mean, if that's your idea of a good time, and it most definitely is my idea of a good time, you will enjoy it.

And The Lady Terminator is the party movie par excellence.

It is.

It is just it's you know, I could put that on anytime and have a great time with it.

And I think you know, I'm sure you guys feel similarly.

Oh yeah, absolutely great, great choices.

Well, thank you for your time today, Jared.

We hope in the future to make you proud and bring more fans to Monta Micabro and continue as the label continues, to just put out some amazing stuff and really celebrate upon fully intended here the wild side of the world cinema that we can really grab onto it and appreciate.

Well, thanks for having me on, and this is a really great little endeavor and you've got mine and Pete's full support.

I'll be coming on fairly regularly, especially when we have announcements, and I think I've gotten Pete to tentatively.

Agree to his first.

Like on air interview in a long time, so he would be he'll be happy to come on and talk to you, and like, no one has a better perspective on Monda Micabro than the guy who freaking founded Mono Macabre, so'll that should be really interesting.

But thanks, as always, thanks for doing this.

This is really great.

We really appreciate it, and thanks to everyone who's listening.

If you guys are Manda Micabro fans already and have everything we've bought, thank you your helping me, helping me pay my mortgage, I appreciate it.

Can't wait for that and to meet Pete.

But on that note, yeah, if you enjoyed this first episode, make sure you subscribe to be able to get all of the future episodes and check out more of the podcast on the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast network.

Thanks for your time and we'll see you back in September.