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Hello Aaron, Welcome back to Wildside, the Official Mando Macabre Podcast.

My name is Ryan Verrel, here again with Chris Haskel, and once again, the incredible Jared Honor is joining us.

Jared, thank you for coming back.

Well, thank you for having me.

I'm glad to be here.

It's your podcast.

We had to let you.

Yeah, it's my podcast that I don't show up for every episode.

Sorry, Chris.

How you've been You've been a busy man these last few months.

Yeah, yeah, it's been.

It's been fun though.

We're having fun at you know, a few different shows that I'm on, and a lot ton of fun online.

And there's been some amazing movies coming out, so I've been I haven't slept a lot, trying to watch everything before I die in fifty years.

There's too much to watch.

There's never enough time to always do any movies.

It's never gonna happen.

On a personal note, Jared, you've been showing a lot of love for like modern Film and like the New York Times Top ten that everybody was sharing and all that.

What have you been watching lately?

We don't get to hear a lot about that from you.

What have you been.

Excited I've been watching lately?

Yeah, I well, last night I watched a three hour almost three hour Chinese silent film.

So that's that's that's fresh on my mind.

It's called Love and Duty from like nineteen thirty one.

I think, yeah, I saw a couple of years ago, or maybe yeah, a couple of years ago.

I got the there's a Chinese label, Diskino.

They do their World Cinema Library, and they have like a series of classic Chinese films like mainland Chinese films and I and they're the most beautiful deluxe releases on the market.

There's no one else that compares to how amazing these are.

But I haven't gotten around watching too many of them actually, and just last night so I finally got around to watching Love and Duty from nineteen thirty one, made from the Shanghai film industry thirty one thirty one, so still making silent movies in thirty one.

So this was silent a lost film until fairly recently.

It was discovered, I think in the Tony Rains interview that's on the disc, they say it was discovered in Uruguay.

Of all places.

Wow.

Yeah, and the movie's pretty good.

I am not the biggest silent movie guy.

I think they're impressive, but I often find them sleepy, like they make me sleepy because I have short attention span and I don't know.

Yeah, you know, typical twenty first century sort of thing.

But I found it very compelling.

It was really it was really well, it's just a melodrama.

It's sort of like a you know, a tragedy sort of story about a woman who is married but falls in love with, you know, a man and leaves her husband and then it all goes back and you do as you do, as you do, and then it all goes bad as it should because you're she's a she was, she should have stayed with her husband and her children.

Yeah, but you know, and it's the star is Ruan li yee liu.

Some someone will need to correct me about that.

But she was a huge star in Shanghai, and she committed suicide I think due to a scandal because of an affair with a married man.

The Stanley Kwan movie Center Stage is about her.

So this was the first movie I'd seen with her in it, So I thought that was really interesting.

Center Stage, I think is a really fantastic movie with Maggie Chung.

So yeah, so that's that's the that's the thing that that's the most recent thing that I've watched.

Well, you know.

The other thing is there's a lot of people that follow all the physical media stuff that we always talk about that are just fully against modern movies.

Any twenty twenty five films that you've loved this year.

I don't understand the whole like, oh, I don't know ever want to watch modern film.

I mean, that's that's really stupid.

Yeah, I think that's dumb.

I think it's kind of dumb that people, because there are good movies made from every era.

They're made in the nineteen teens, and there are good movies made right now, you know, the whole era.

I watched less probably overall than you know.

And honestly, I have only seen two movies this year.

I've seen Mickey seventeen, which I liked, and Sinners, which I absolutely adored.

Sinners was fucking fantastic, the most you know, exciting American movie in the last few years.

I think.

Nice.

But that's it.

I think for new movies that I watch from twenty twenty five.

I tend at the end of the year, I'll like from a lot of the year end lists, especially like from Asian movie centric sites.

I'll take those lists and sort of create my own list and sort of go from there and try to watch whatever, you know, more recent Indian or Korean movie has been out, you know, and there's tons of that kind of stuff, and you can find it on often find them on Netflix or Amazon Prime, that kind of stuff.

So so twenty first century movies I probably watch more than anything else or is Asian stuff, particularly India.

The last few.

Years, Netflix has a pretty extensive Asian collection that just never gets any attention because it's unless you're looking for it.

It can be hard to just simply stumble across them.

Yeah, but if you put like one movie on your list or watch one thing, then you'll be like you're you're suggested to will be like, ah, Like I'm pretty sure they think I am like Tamil or something, because because like I have tons of you know, yeah, of you know, recommended Indian films or or like Korean dramas, you know, because my wife and I will watch those two.

So yeah, that sort of annoys me about Netflix.

People talk the discourse about Netflix, people will oh, they've got nothing, They've got no movies.

Well maybe they don't have any good, you know, American movies, but there's tons and tons of great Asian stuff.

I mean, come on, expand your horizons, and that could lead me onto the New York My complaints about people's New York Times lists, but what are the plays?

Just that they're like you would think there were no movies made outside of the United States in the twenty first century if you saw any of those lists as people were putting out, especially when the number one movie ultimately from the New York Times was was an Asian film Korea two of the two of the four top four the not think number four was in the Mood for Love, which was why was one of my guesses for what would be I was sort of surprised about parasite, So.

My in my in my top ten was the White Ribbon, which I guess was German mm hmm or Austrian, Yeah, probably maybe maybe Austrian, you could say, Platform, which was mainland China.

In the Mood for Love, which is Hong Kong mm hm.

Oh, Fishing Cat, which is Iranian.

Oh wow, yeah, I have yet to see that.

Oh my god, Wild Boys, which was what French, I guess, and then Visitor Q, which is obviously Japanese.

Yeah, but I did have a pretty interesting list.

That's uh, that's some things that aren't uh you know, that's not you know, everyday things you saw on the list.

That's that's pretty interesting.

I saw the same for for Ryan for Ryan.

For your list was also a few things I had.

The Chaser for some reason that didn't make the top ten on the New York Times list some shock.

Yeah, the Whaling wasn't then the fucking top one hundred, and I am completely flabbergasted.

The Whaling is my If I had to pick the number one, like the number one twenty first century movie would be Memories of Murder.

Number two would be The Whaling.

It's it's a fucking masterpiece.

But the Chaser is really really great.

Have you seen that?

Chris the Chaser?

No, no, okay, the guy who made the Whaling.

If you've seen that, it's his first film, The Whaling.

If you've seen that.

You know the guy that made the guy that made what it's his first film.

The Chaser, The guy that made The Whaling he did The Chaser.

Oh, oh, I may have that, I m I have.

I mean, I'm sure that's me speaking of that.

Do you know what's going on with the rights for his films in the US?

Third jeered, like, have you ever looked at.

Honestly, don't It's funny, Yeah, because neither The Chaser nor The Yellow Sea are are available on Blu Ray in the US.

I don't think.

I think The Chaser was available on DVD.

I think in the US it was.

Yeah, but I bought the Australian release, and then of course there's like a UK release of The Yellow Sea and a Korean release of The Yellow Sea.

The yellowc is also incredible.

Yeah, I haven't seen anything from from Nahung Jin.

I need to success, right for me?

Knowing your taste, Chris, you would literally love every single one of his Yeah.

I'm honestly quite I'm surprised.

I would say, Yeah, these should be on your radar for sure.

The only one that fits within when I was really hardcore watching movies in theaters would have been The Chaser, Chaser or The Chaser.

After twenty ten, I've just been at home watching.

But anyways, Yeah, I have to check this out.

That's a good tip, thank you.

I'm discovering in the Mono Macabo podcast.

As a very chat everything.

Whaling is a very cheap four k out there from will.

Go oh okay, yeah and yeah, yeah, yeah, I've got I've got that and the Korean Blu ray release which is big in deluxe but has like no special features that are in English unfortunately.

But yeah, I actually, honestly, we could just do a podcast about the whaling and that would be fine with me.

We don't even have It.

Would be like an eight episode series and yeah, yeah.

We could do a commentary.

Check that gets out, see if it gets.

It's a long movie, it'll be it'll be a long recording.

It's like a full three hours long that one.

Uh well, not talking about modern micabre, let's get back to that.

It's been u I won't say quiet because it's not been super long since the last double feature of releases came out, which were both double features.

How has the reception been to that last bundle?

Pretty good?

There, you know, not necessarily setting excuse me, setting sales charts on fire.

But that's okay, we didn't really expect that.

But I think especially for the even Man release, there's been a really warm reception to it.

I think the people are reacting to it the way we hoped they would that there it's fun and interesting and you know, if nothing else, sort of a nice anecdote to a lot of the more toxic discourse about trans identity that's in the media right now.

And it's just funny that these you know, movies from the early eighties.

I mean, this is you know, there have been trans people forever, there have always been trans people, and here's you know, here's an example.

And they're just fun, great movies.

And I think a lot of people are sort of vibing on that, and you know, even some people I didn't really necessarily think would necessarily vibe with them.

I've been just been talking to how much they enjoyed them and how fun they are.

I mean, they're not masterpieces by any means, but it's they're really really neat little movies, and so it's been nice to see some positive reaction to them out there.

I would like for there to be a little bit more like I always I think I say that every time when we talk about one of our releases.

But it's nice to see and you know, and I'm happy that it has sold as well as it has sold, so still copies.

Still got a few hundred copies left of the limited edition.

If anyone out there here's this and gets the gumptionin, it's at our Big Cartel.

You can just google Mando Macabro Big Cartel.

It'll come right up.

So yeah, it's fun.

And if you're waiting for a retail release, I think we're a couple of months away from putting that in.

We just want to give the limited edition a little bit more time.

But so yeah, yeah nice.

Speaking of retail releases, everybody seems to be pretty happy that Cafe Flesh is finally going to be get its release, and then Bohachi Bushido.

You hat a couple others that are about to drop, I believe right something around.

There, Yeah, I think.

So we have the Blu ray releases of Bohachi Bashido, Cafe Flesh, and Girl Slaves of Morgano La Fay, which we discussed on the last the last time I was here, we sort of went in depth on all those movies, just the Blu rays though, So the UHD of Cafe Flesh is coming next uhds we will be putting out retail uhds of Bohachi Bashido and Girl Slaves just a little bit further down the road, like we wanted to make sure that the limited editions of those you know, sold out Bahachi Bishido will sell out any day now.

Honestly it's very close.

Morgana La Fay has a little bit to go to go, but so we're sort of giving those again a little bit more time, but those are those are coming if anyone is curious, if anyone's been wondering, But Cafe Flesh should be announced any day now.

I just QC the covers for those, make sure so so that and the punishment from the from the Halloween slate from last year.

We'll also finally be making its retail debut with a retail safe cover.

We we had a hard we had a hard time, Like we submitted something to our distributor and they were like, no, go back, give us something else.

Well, speaking of that, though, there's an inevitable retail edition of You a Man.

Yes, yeah, yeah, it will have a different cover then.

Yeah, I'm honestly really surprised that we haven't like got it in more trouble.

It's a volva, I mean it is it is you know, unsubtle.

Awesome.

Yeah, no, it's right.

I don't know what the cover it's funny.

It's funny.

Though.

On I got slammed on Facebook.

They nearly shut us down because of the even Man covers, but not that cover.

It was the return It is the flip side, the return of Eva Man cover that has a like a tiny little cartoon woman with little period like little tiny nipples, little tiny pinpoint nipples.

They shut us down over that.

They removed that image.

They they you know, gave us this big warning spiel about that.

But the the you know, the vagina cover was fine.

I just had to.

Go look that up.

The other side is not even it's tiny.

Yeah, yeah, it's it's really weird.

Uh.

I don't know.

Part of me wonders if it was somebody who like had a you know, beef with us, was like look at this, look at this, Look there's nipples and submitted it, and there was an issue because I don't even know how their their algorithms would catch that.

To be honest, it's so it's so ridiculous and it's you know, what are you going to do?

To be fair?

If I was going to guess on an AI algorithm that was trained for a female part, like a part of the female anatomy, I would assume that it's better trained for nipple than actual labia.

Probably probably because that's probably a bit easier to feed into some interesting language.

We're using her and just like nipples, right like, like there's just more that it's probably seen at this point.

Yeah, no, yeah, I mean they they are notorious nipple haters at Facebook, so uh, you know, even cartoon nipples, I guess at this point, little like period at the end of a sentence, nipples on a cartoon woman with you know, it's it's so, it's so dumb.

So yeah, So those will probably have different covers for the retail edition.

I don't know what they're I don't I haven't talked with Pete yet about what that's going to look like, but I'm guessing they'll be something different.

This is an amazing conversation.

We always know in very interesting directions when we all get to go outside.

It is the wild side.

So yeah, we talked about the last bundle, and you have been sharing some stuff all over the internet, blu ray dot com forums.

Everybody's getting excited about a couple of titles coming up, like Mystic, some Balie, Queen of Black Magic, anything you want to talk about.

For those, nothing that hasn't been already been revealed, just that those will be for our Halloween slate.

So the I mean, the plan is now to you know, have those as part of our just regular Halloween slate.

But uh, you know, we're sort of I think I went into this a little bit the last time too, is we're we're sort of very conscious of making sure that there's not another delay.

So the plan is for those to be Halloween slate.

If for some reason it seems like they won't be ready, then we may have to change that up a little bit and maybe just have the Halloween sale be a sale and we put them you know, on pre order a month later or something.

I don't know.

But the plan right now, and everything seems to be going okay, is for those to be part of the Halloween slate.

And currently that slate is five going to be five releases.

Wow, so.

Five releases with so six movies, one of which with at least two versions of one movie, you know, two at least two uhds, possibly three uhds.

So yeah, So that's that's I mean, it's a big slate and so in fact, I mean it's sort of one of the reasons why I wanted to for us to record this episode is so we could sort of talk about so what of our upcoming schedule is, because we're going to be kind of a little bit quiet for a little while.

I think we would we would be having probably a pre order right about now, but we rearranged our release schedule to facilitate, hopefully facilitate the Halloween sale at the end of the year.

Not a big delay, so we sort of shifted a few things around, a couple of things to next year, and we've shifted what was going to be the pre order for now probably for next month, and it will be four titles instead of three.

That's the plan.

Wow.

So yeah, So and then that's so that's August, shipping in August and September, and then the the Halloween stuff hopefully again you know, on sale at the end of October, but probably still shipping not till January, just because shipping in November and December sucks so well.

I mean, even that is remarkable.

Talking about like a sparse and quiet rest of the year.

But you're working on nine films.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's like looking at the schedule like yeah, okay, yeah.

I was gonna say, are there any double features for that August thing?

No, they're not.

So it's just four films for four releases.

Four films, ten films.

Even, did I get that wrong?

Halloween was six films.

So yeah, wait one, two, three, four, five, six, Yeah, so six six releases.

So yeah, so for Halloween, yeah, I think the ones we revealed are black Magic, Queen of Black Magic, excuse me, Mystics in Bali, and Devil's Nightmare.

So you know Devil's Nightmare.

Uhd.

So we have another thing another uhd.

It's an upgrade from a Blue Rex.

I'll leave that mysterious.

And then another sort of fun, sort of much requested, sort of sixties Spanish horror monster thing that'll have to mysterious as well.

But it's one of those things that sort of fans of like old school euro horror and drive in stuff I've been clamoring for for a number of years.

I see it requested quite a lot, So that's that's something.

And then the big one for me, and again this is just a tease.

The big one for me is that we are finally after years of however long Mondo Micabre has been alive, has been been in business ten years at least before I got involved.

There's all we've always wanted to do a Hong Kong horror film, an early eighties Hong Kong horror film, and we've finally got one, and it's a great one, and so we're working on that right now.

That's a that's a big project that I'm working on right now, especially with the guy that's helping us out, who's really doing a lot of hard work.

And I'll be able to talk about that more when we get there, but it's I'm really excited.

I don't know if anyone else will be excited when it comes out, but I love I love the movie, and it's just something that's only been available in like crappy vhs or VCDs with you know, a cropt picture and really fuzzy nth generation bootlegs kind of a deal.

And it's just amazing to see it like cleaned up, even like I've not seen full HD, I've just seen sort of low res screeners of some of the restored footage.

Just amazing.

It's the kind of thing that makes me I get excited all over again for just working in this business, for seeing that sort of stuff.

So yeah, that's a tease.

So hopefully that gets other gets people excited about what we have coming up.

We'll see speaking on behalf of everybody that I always love seeing comment when we post that the podcast is up, and people are always excited about like the behind the scenes stuff.

What is what is the reason for not being able to do Hong Kong Core or before now?

What has been the delay?

What has been any issues theoretically for the US.

It was this goes back to like the nineties.

Pete wrote the book Manda Micabro and did a lot of research on stuff, and he you know, Pete's been around the world, and he traveled around the world.

He would even go to film markets and try to talk to people and try to talk to licensers and find licensers for particular films, and he just always came up like no one, no one knew anything.

I think that it was a very sort of like especially after the handover to the mainland, there was just this sort of sort of down period for Hong Kong sales, especially from movies from the early eighties to the West.

So for whatever reason, just Pete could never could either just not find who owned a movie, or maybe if they found him, he just couldn't find materials.

And so that just sort of that's luck just sort of extended to me when I started looking and started asking now, and obviously other people have had better luck, like Vinegar Syndrome with the release of Devil Fetus.

So devil Fetus was something when I first started working from Monto Macabre like ten years ago, that was on my list, and I, you know, I sent an email to or the Fortune Star, the company that you know, represents rights.

They just would never answer my emails.

I don't know.

I did finally actually get an answer and they told me they they told me.

I think they just told me they didn't have it, which was not true what happened.

So I don't know, It's just it's just weird bad luck.

I was really interested in Centipeede Horror and tried looking for a little bit for that, and then Air four four four like pulled it out.

I don't know, those those young guys they got it going on.

They had another they did.

They announced Challenge of the Lady Ninja, which was another movie I actually talked to someone about and they quoted me some obscene dollar amount and I was like, well, would you take ten times less?

And they're like, no, no, not at all.

So and so I I.

But apparently the Air four four guys, you know, found a way to make that work, and you know, big props to them, great label.

Well they still haven't they have released it, so we'll see.

Well, yeah, that's true.

Yeah, And in some ways I'm not surprised because you know, I mean, it's that's it's an area, and that's the other thing is that it's an area.

Do that's it's problematic due to a lot of poor storage in Hong Kong and in Taiwan a first, especially for a long time, they were not not as good about film preservation as maybe they are.

Now.

There's the Hong Kong Film Archive, and there's like the Taiwan Audio Visual Institute or something like that that basically serves as as their sort of official film archive.

Yeah, there's a there's a there's a label called Kannie.

I don't know if you're familiar with them, but they.

Absolutely yeah, yeah, good friends with good friends with them.

Okay, awesome.

They lovely people, but they talk about the Philippines have some similar issues with you know, preservation and and there's some some one of the labs they recently shut down, so there's hopefully yeah good.

Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, that's it's that's a that's another area.

I mean, we've obviously done a few Filipino films, but you know that that's it's a meager amount compared to how many we've wanted to do over the years.

Uh.

And that's it.

And it's the same thing.

It's you know, tropical countries, it's it's hard to preserving film requires a lot of time, effort, and money, especially in countries where it's harder to preserve stuff.

It requires a lot of energy to be used to keep them cool basically.

And moisture is as bad or worse than just pure heat.

Right, it's terrible, absolutely terrible.

Yeah, mold is going to be a big problem.

Yeah, it's just the film is a very very fragile thing.

Uh.

And you know, and especially when you when you take a lot of these movies were considered trash in the sense that they were easily disposable, like I mean, and that's the same all over the world.

That's the same with you know, you know, like the stuff that's something weird released from the US, these movies, like they were amazed to discover that as many films still existed, as as there as there is as they do.

But it's because these were considered disposable things, the stuff that would just get out there, play for a few weeks maybe even, and then just be and then on and you know, maybe someone would hold onto a print or or even the negative, but more unlikely they wouldn't.

It just nobody because nobody thought anyone would ever care.

And now we've come you know, now we're in you know, a quarter of the way through the twenty first century, and people care a lot.

I mean, it's it's as exciting to I mean, it's as exciting as you know, I talked about Love and Duty that the Chinese film.

I mean, it's incredible that a Chinese silent film, a lot of which are lost, still survives.

It's almost just as incredible that movies from the early eighties, uh in some of these places still exist, especially from places like the Philippines, in Hong Kong and India and places like that.

I mean, it's it is.

It is miraculous and they're just as you know, mystics in Bali is just as important in my mind as love and duty or anything else, you know, or an Ozu a silent o zoo film, you know from jan you know, it's just it's just as important.

They're just as exciting and you know, and you can you know, sell them.

There's there's there's absolutely an audience for these kind of things.

So it's it's exciting to be able to do that now.

And that's so that's how very long winded sort of answered, is what the problem?

Why?

Why Why has it taken us so long to do Hong Kong horror?

And that's sort of it's sort of all those things.

A lot of it is kind of just bad luck on our part because other people have been able to do it.

But you know, it's finally happening, and I couldn't be more pleased.

That was one of my goals when I first started working for Mondo Micabre was that was like the missing piece of the puzzle for Monto Micabre, because honestly, my interest in Hong Kong cinema comes from the Mondo Micabre book.

Like I liked One Car why going back?

But I had seen The Killer by John Wu and I really didn't like it back in the nineties, like I didn't like So it's sort of like I sort of ignored Hong Kong movies for years.

I was reading the on to Micabre book and reading about all the Black Magic movies especially, that really piqued my interest, and and it was always something, well, why hasn't Manda Micabre ever done any?

You know what the label, why hasn't it ever done any?

And that was one of my goals when I first started working, was to try and get one.

And it's only taken ten years, like ten years this year to finally get one, and it's it's gonna be a big project.

Like I say, we've got two different cuts of this film, one of which is basically never been seen so.

Well Jared when roughly if things go right, let's say happy path as they say in in the IT World, what's the happy path for?

When we could see this, if everything goes right.

See that Hong Kong horror film well, hopefully as part of the Halloween slate.

So okay, so yeah, so on sale at the end of October.

I mean we've signed the we we have the film, we've got the right slock down, we've got materials.

We just this last week finalized because there's some missing scenes for one of these cuts, and we've and the guy who's helping us out got a print located, a print that has everything that we need.

Now, it's a it's not gonna look as nice as the stuff from the negative because it's from a print and as like burned in subtitles like so many Hong Kong movies do.

But so so we've got everything for it.

I'm working on extras right now.

You know, it's not gonna have a ton of extras, but it's gonna have some things.

Yeah.

So the only thing is if it takes a little bit longer to do some of the restorative work on this footage from the thirty five milimeter print, we may have to shuffle it off the next year.

I'm hoping that isn't the case because I would like to see it.

I would like to see it done as soon as possible.

So hopefully, hopefully the Halloween sale at the end of October, we'll have that as part of our new release pre order slate, shipping in January, So hell yeah, to.

Get a kind of sentimental for a moment.

Working with a bunch of these labels, it's always interesting to hear somebody's like, behind the scenes, this is the one thing like and not not like a Disney title that people know will never be possible, but something like this that is just no, damn it, I want to do one of these things.

And like, watching you gush on Facebook when you finally got this was one of my like, I'm so happy for Jared moments, I know, and yeah.

I don't know.

I mean, I'm glad that you that it is.

You know that it you know, makes an impression.

Uh, my reaction to it because I also feel kind of silly, and I even I felt I had to mention that in that Facebook post, was like, you know, there's a lot of shitty things going on in the world.

So you take your joy and you take your victories where you can, right.

So that's so that this for me is a victory.

It's it's a one small step in achieving, you know, the goals that I set out to achieve with MoMA micabro So, and I don't and I don't want to stop there.

I want to keep doing that.

I mean, hopefully people don't think that there's too much Hong Kong stuff out there, because it's not all just kung fu movies and pistol operas.

There's so much more than Hong Kong cinema has to offer.

I like, just the other week, I I possibly got to clue into another licenser with some really interesting stuff.

That's you know, I won't can't say anything more about that, but like one of the films is like something that's unusual for Hong Kong cinema.

That's not that's not a pistol opera, and it's not even like h like one of these sort of gross out horror movies.

It's something sort of different.

That is a movie that I absolutely love and would still is still Monda Macabre Fair, So you know, it's I it's an area that I dearly, dearly love, and I hope, uh, I hope our I hope the people that like like our stuff are kind of willing to go along with us, and hopefully it does go on.

I mean, it could be end up being that this one we do and how we're doing now is the only one for a while.

You never you never know because there is such a situation, such a dire situation again as I said with with materials, so you just never know, but hopefully more to come.

Pretty much guarantee.

It sounds like.

I mean, well, I'm going to keep trying, and that's just it is.

Both Feet and I are very like you know, we we set our minds on something and we're going to keep going at it until until we do.

It so well.

And the reality is it's not gonna not sill.

I mean, right now, Asian films are like the golden ticket for everyone, which is crazy.

Yeah, I know, it's it's fun, it's I love to see it.

Uh.

Like I think I've said before, like the you know, the Japanese and Indonesian stuff is out selling the European stuff for us for US right now, which is weird and not something even four or five years ago I would have expected.

So it's it's really interesting to see now.

It seems like a lot of the stuff that is really popular is the more action oriented, which is sort of interesting because again, four or five years ago, I would have said only horror is the stuff that's really going to sell.

But I think the market has changed a lot and you see like the Kung Fu stuff especially seems to be Honestly, I'm sick to death of Kung Fu.

I you know, I hate to say that, but I really am, and I want to see so much more.

But it's great to see that it still sells and that people get excited about it.

So hopefully people will get excited about what we have.

Well, I think there's still a lot in the back catalog to get excited about.

Chris and I both prepared a title to talk about.

Chris, you want to tell us about the movie you want to discuss today?

Yeah, of course, I'm excited to finally officially talk about this movie because it was one of the early films that made me discover the Mona Macabro name.

In nineteen eighty one, there's a there's a or nineteen yeah, eighty one, there's a in the Philippines, there's a film festival put on by I think the President's wife, I believe, and they were really trying to promote Filipino cinema.

And they were very excited about this because they were going to promote the amazing art coming out of the Philippines.

And the only film that got signed from that festival and for international distribution was a Bond spoof with a two foot nine hero called Wang Wang and this mortified.

The leadership of the Philippines.

And the movie called for your height only.

And it is a movie that's very difficult to talk about with getting a little bit offensive.

But man is it fun.

Man is it a fun, fun, funny movie.

And I am so happy it's in the Mondo Macabo catalog.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's a it's a classic, that's that's sort of been a staple of our catalog for for for years now.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's just the most amazingly stupid fun you can have.

The dubbing on this movie, yeah is just gold.

It's just like every line is just gold.

Yeah.

You know, I was watching it again, not not for the first time, in preparation for this, and I was struck this time by the if you were to take a two foot nine action hero and try to create some realistic choreography that would sort of put him in a position to be able to knock out adult, grown adult, they did a pretty good job.

They were smart about the way they used his body in the movie.

Uh, it's obviously there's a lot of famous shots around him just being created with the different ways he can hit people in the nuts.

On the butt.

But there's even some clever things like he'll grab a hold of a gun and like flip around and kick him in the face or just there's just different things, and that there was one moment that really made me like, I was like, damn, it's pretty clever.

Like he had a giant shotgun that he used to to get a guy on the roof.

But this gun was longer than he was tall, right, and so naturally there's gonna be some kickback from that.

And this this man flew backwards like like five feet when he shot the weapon.

I was like, hey, like, yeah, it's like way to be accurate with that.

Yeah, it's a very realistic film.

I'm a verite.

Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it's really a very strange artifact.

And have you have you seen the documentary The Search for weng Wing.

I was going to bring that up, so yeah, definitely fascinating character.

But I haven't seen the rest of his movies, Like he had a few other ones that he made around that time.

I couldn't really I don't know, I haven't seen any other ones.

Yeah, what is it?

I'm trying to remember the one that I've seen most recently.

It was included on the DVD release of the Search for Wang Wang.

There's just Agent Double Zero, which came out I think right before this.

Yeah, and there's They're the Impossible Kid is one, and then I think the one that I'm thinking is called The Wild Wild Wang or something like like the Wild Wild West, but it's the Wild duh Wild Wild Wild Yes.

Uh.

And it was fucking fantastic.

It's really really funny.

I was kind of drunk, I'm gonna admit that when I watched it, so details of it are kind of a little bit fuzzy, but I just adored it, and I would advocate being drunk for almost any Wang Wang film that you watch.

It's the mindset to get into, but just really really fun, really bizarre, and a little bit of a different feel because for Your Height only was purchased to the West and it was dubbed in Italy, so you hear a lot of the same voices that you hear in like in like seventies Italian film, so it gives it this very unique feel.

But the other ones are just like dubbed in Hong Kong or whatever, so they have this different feel like and I think maybe the editing has been slightly slightly tightened up on for your height only, so it's a bit slicker.

So it's kind of fun to watch.

Some of the others that have there have been a little bit rougher feel to them, but just yeah, so much fun, so so much fun.

And the guy is honestly charismatic.

He really is like a fun like a really great little performer.

Absolutely, I shouldn't just say great little performer, that's all, just a great performer.

Uncomfortable thing about promoting this movie, right, how do you do it in like a respectful way, because not in a short film?

Very nice, very nice.

I do want to throw out there for people maybe that have seen this before, because I know right now we're really recommending this for people that have never seen it, but for those that have happened to come across.

And I knew that we were going to be doing this.

For the last couple of weeks, was just randomly listening to another podcast hosted by a dude I know named Andy Nelson.

It's called the CinemaScope Podcast, and it's this really well researched.

He tries to get someone who's at least a borderline expert, and I only qualify that because I'm on one episode and I'm certainly not an expert in anything.

But he gets somebody that knows a lot about one topic or wrote a book or something, and he just did a topic that he called Re'm sorry that was not a word remake exploitation, which it actually is not being interpreted as like let's discuss rob Zombies, Halloween two or anything like that.

It is mostly about ripoffs and things that are other countries remaking films, and so this gets a mention.

There's a long discussion on like Turkish Star Wars.

There are like dramas that have been remade that people have never heard of, and a lot of these things.

There's just a really interesting context and discussion to be had on when the trademark laws were a little more relaxed and we just saw people taking advantage of them.

But this is a really great example of it's technically a ripoff, but also they're just doing their own thing and it's a fucking blast.

I love this movie.

Yeah, it's it's a lot of fun and you're right, it is.

It could very easily fit into that sort of remake exploitation sub genre.

But and yet is there really I mean, you know, James Bond never you know, kicked somebody in the nuts or you know, bit them on the bum after diving between their legs.

Also, it's it has its own feel for sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's that's a really fascinating area.

That whole the sort of unofficial foreign remakes of films and the Philippines are just was.

There were tons and tons of them.

I mean there's like a James Bond meets either James Bond versus Batman or James Bond versus Dracula I think, or something like that.

And they made you know, and they made their own Bruce ploitation movies, and they you know, all kinds of stuff.

There are lots of superhero stuff, lots, that's the thing.

You get a lot of.

It's like Batman and Superman stuff.

Spider Man two.

Yes, yeah, if anyone has ever seen Deva dam or Three Mighty Men Thaturkish film, which is Captain America and Santo the Master Wrestler team up to fight an evil Spider Man who's a crime boss for some reason and uh decapitates peedle people with like uh you know, liket like outboard motors on from a boat.

Yea, god bless, I think we're talking about I love this whole but see that's like you can watch that making fun of it, for sure, I think it.

But like those movies honestly are where I love them so much.

Like, yeah, there's a great there's great energy.

I mean, these people knew what they were doing.

They and they weren't stupid.

They knew that they you know, they were having fun with with what they were doing.

And he knew that they had meager means, but it didn't matter.

There's so there's this great energy, especially the Turkish stuff as there's just amazing energy to it that you know, Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's it is.

You can just laugh at it.

You can, no, why not?

It's life is short.

Who cares?

Fuck it?

Just laugh at something.

But there is a deeper understanding you if you you can go into it and it doesn't have to have a deeper understanding of the film itself, which is very you know, it has a very shallow sort of narrative emphasis here and there, but it is the sort of social, historical, generic contexts behind all of it are really interesting and and is complex, like every culture is complex and every you know, every film industry has its own complexities.

So yeah, it's there's but you can just it is funny for your height only is funny and we should be able to laugh at it.

And it comedy.

Yeah, yeah, like it was made as a comedy, right, so there's there's humor built into it.

Sometimes it's a little bit difficult to discern the intentional versus the unintentional, but you have to assume that they're going in there knowing what they're doing as well.

So yeah, the reason they started with that story is about the film festival.

Is that story made me laugh about as hard as the movie itself, just because I can only imagine at the time, we're trying to show the world, you know, this amazing art coming out of the country, and this is they were just must have been.

Like yeah, I mean yeah, they probably have like Leno Broco movies like Mike de Leon, like these legitimate like tours, like like true intellectuals making really fantastic films, and you know, it's whang wang, but that is the thing that sells yeah, which is a perfect encapsulation of especially the sort of you know, anything goes international film distribution, especially of like the late seventies and early eighties, especially like the end of the sort of grindhouse drive in era heading into the VHS era.

You know, it's there was just so much wacky, wonderful stuff sold all over the world, and you know, unfortunately less than an audience in you know, Pasadena, California for Lionel Brockham.

You know, I just you know, that's just going to be how things go, you know, but thank god, because then that helps preserve some of these films.

Absolutely absolutely, do you I know, you can't talk about for your height only specifically generally speaking, Are there are opportunities for more Filipino movies to come out from Ono Macabo because they do have kind of an interesting exploitation history in general, right with the Dick Randall stuff and the Red Recordman and just the different people that were over there.

Anyway, So any chance that there's going to be more movies coming down the pike.

I'd tell you a chance.

Yeah, It's it's difficult.

So a lot of the problems, I you know, was just talking about Hong Kong or like it's almost tenfold in the Philippines, And it's a really sad situation that so many films have been lost, but we're always pursuing projects.

They're you know, like, do do you guys know the Zuma films?

Do you know that Zuma?

It's like this sort of it's like a very comic booky horror thing.

It's like this big green guy and he's like a giant, double headed snake that comes off of his shoulders.

We've been looking into those movies and have come like this close, like half a dozen times, but they just always keep then slipping away.

Either someone like the rights get sold off or and then we can't get in touch with the person who just has now has the rights, or there's materials like go missing.

It's just or someone who says, oh, yeah, we have that and then they don't.

It's it's been you know, it's been sort of a you know, chasing our tail sort of a thing forever with those.

But I mean that's always in the back of our head.

We want to do the Zoom films because they're really great.

There's a there's a project.

I can't do anything more than tease there's a long term project that that was brought to us by uh Andrew Leovold, our good friend Andrew Leovold, who is the director of the film and the book writer of the book The Search for Wing Wing.

Uh.

He is you know, the Western world's foremost expert on you know, low budget Filipino, especially action movies.

Uh.

And so there's a project he's brought to us that is possible.

It just is a matter of like us all working out the time to sort of inspect the materials.

There are materials that exist, and essentially the films are older, so I think potentially they are officially because of Filipino copyright law, are officially in the public domain.

So it's not like a matter of rights necessarily.

I think there's a all like sixties films, but really interesting stuff that's never been seen before.

That is a long term project though, that's you know, down the road, but is something that's definitely in the back of my mind because I want to see it happen.

But you know, it's it's it's a tough area.

Now, like you mentioned Connie earlier.

Now, Connie is doing a bunch of those some of the more intellectual films, some of the more sort of art house films but have but genre fans can I think, find a lot to love.

There's one that they released I think last year called kissp Mata.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's absolutely one of the best movies I've seen this year from like nineteen eighty one or two or three, something like that, like a true crime thing.

It's not a typical horror film, but it's like the main like antagonist in it is the scariest character in a film I've seen in a long time.

It's heart stopping at times.

And so I can't recommend that high enough.

And I can't recommend as far as like putting up and uh, you know, telling other people you should look at what a label is doing.

Connie is almost always right at the top for me for telling people that always always pay attention to what they're doing.

They're doing stuff no one else is doing.

I love that I do the same thing.

I promote them every chance I get.

Ryan's tired of me talking about him at all.

I do the same thing there.

I mean, not that this isn't going to turn into like an OCN podcast or anything, but they have so many partner labels there's kind of something for everybody, but Connie is one of I don't know four or five that I don't even care what the title is.

It's an immediate attic carte.

I know that I'm going to love it.

Their curation to spot on.

It's just like Mona Micabre.

I know that, I know that I will at least walk away with a lot of interest in something.

Yeah, yeah, and yeah, anyone anyone here who's listening but hasn't done picked up some of their Filipino releases.

That's some of the best stuff they've done.

And they have one of the best titles in Tagalo as well, which is Coakaba.

Easy for you to say, yeah, it's just anyways, So Manda Macabro, right movie?

That's yeah, all.

Right, so my title.

In nineteen seventy one there was a film festival.

I'm just kidding, I don't have no This was inspired by again the comment section on Mona Macabro stuff, because it seems like no matter what, when you're teasing something getting announced in the future, you're going to get at least seven point three is about the over underline comment saying is there going to be a Jallo and remembering the days of Jollie not being released by every label under the sun, so that they're all available at the moment.

One that is still available for Monna Micabro that I love is The Fox with the Velvet Tale.

This is a nineteen seventy one movie that is Italy and Spanish co production that I don't know, there's something just super like homie and viby about this movie.

I'm one of those people that sometimes can just get lost in a film score, and this movie specifically is one that you can, like, I don't know, feel like you're hanging out just with a bunch of intellectuals and the score is.

Man, I just feel smarter being around these people and hearing this music.

And I mean it's beautifully shot.

It is one of those those movies that you just go, like, where where do they just happen upon the most beautiful spot in the world to make this super weird movie.

And it's a genuinely good story.

It's compelling, it's well acted, like it is a classic moud of Macabro story that most people probably never would have just happened upon a film and go, oh, The Fox with the Velvet Tale that sounds like the most I have to watch that right now movies.

But genuinely, you watch it and you go, well, shit, now I have to tell three people about this because they should all see this movie too.

And it's it's incredible the catalog you guys are put together with stuff like this.

Yeah, yeah, it's it's funny.

Yeah.

You mentioned the title being maybe something that isn't I feel we probably should have called it in the Eye of the Hurricane, which is one of the alternate titles.

It's a bit catchy or sounding, but at the time, I don't know why we just thought that we liked that title.

But let's be but like the real ones are going to be excited about a movie called A Fox with the Velvet.

Tail, the real Yeah, And honestly, we put it out at the same time as the Latvian film Spider, and so I think maybe we were just like, oh, it's our animal double stupid but uh but yeah, yeah, And what I would like to riff for a second on your comment about the location, and it's true, it's a gorgeous location.

And man, isn't that one of the neat things about like these especially the seventies and early eighties European films.

Is that they got these location I mean these are all like that's somebody's real fucking villa, you know, it's like and it's amazing, and like that's something Jess Franco was like a genius at getting so many like those are like real weird locations, real mansions that he was filming in.

Like it it's so fascinating to me that the weird connections that have to exist for these to have, like you know, just it's some wealthy playboy, some wealthy you know, air to a fortune.

He's not even used in this villa right now, and you know in the south of France.

So go ahead, make you know, make a movie there.

Maybe maybe send one of the one of the girls that's in it over to me.

And that's that's that's all, you know, Literally, I think that's a lot of how that stuff would would happen.

And it's it's so fun and I get very excited like looking at that and just thinking about the sort of milieu that existed at the time for this to happen.

So I just wanted to mention that because that you're spot on.

It's it's a wonderful location in that movie.

It's very beautiful and you know likely you know, it was probably just someone the producer or the director, they knew, someone who again would just say, oh yeah, I'm not using this right now, go ahead and use it.

So it's just amazing what these low budget filmmakers could do with the meager means at hand, you know, and often that is, you know, through connections.

But what great connections to have.

And that's one of the beauty's absolute beauty things about European genre cinema is just the beauty, the beautiful locations, the beautiful people, you know, everything, it's just yeah, I love it.

I love it.

And let's be honest, I'm not going to claim to be bisexual, but if I was ever going down.

That path, I know where you're going with this, Scott.

Sorry, yeah, it might start with John Sorell because.

Holy man, yeah again saying I'm in the same boat.

But you know who could deny what a good looking human being Jean Sorel is.

Wildly attractive.

Yeah, yeah, I love this movie.

And again, not enough people talk about this.

It's not Halloween time yet, but just as a random back of your mind thought, if you don't have the standard for this one, yet you should probably add it to your list, It's for sure.

With the watch.

Yeah, yeah, it's great and just as a movie in and of itself, sort of apart from its attractive people and locations, it's it's a very it is a very smart, twisty little foam the the director let me see Jose Maria fourque.

Yeah.

I haven't seen a ton of his movies.

We released one other movie that he did, It's Nothing, Mama, Just a Game, which I also really like a lot.

I think that one it's it's a bit uncomfortable because there's like a woman who's sort of very mistreated throughout the whole thing, and so you know, some people may you know, that's just not going to be their cup of tea and to fully understand that.

But I mean again, I I sort of enjoy very dark, you know, entertainment.

So I think that is a really great movie and that has got you know, David deep Red Hemmings in it, David blow Up Hemmings in it and gives a really great sweaty performance.

Yeah.

And I think Shot in Shot in Colombia or Venezuela unique sort of there was a sort of a unique sort of time period where Spanish films were being shot in that area, including another one of his movies, It's in the Emmanuel set that Severin did A Woman from a Hot Country, which I watched earlier this year for the first time, and I really liked it.

It's an unusual film.

It's not going to blow anyone's mind, but I really, I really liked it.

I thought it had a very unique sort of atmosphere, a unique sort of well done narrative.

Laura Gemser of course is in it and is really really great.

And wait, who's the Who's It's like a Stuart Whitman is the faded Hollywood star?

Who's the male lead?

It's always fun to see faded Hollywood actors show up in these movies.

That's one of the kind of joys of European track cinema, so that, you know, all great, so an interesting director with obviously a sort of point of view, uh and uh, some real intelligence and making stuff that's a little bit different, a little bit has a little bit of twist in the tail to it.

Yeah, but this is what I like so much.

Like there's a there's a director from Mexico called Juan Lopez.

Juan Lopez Maktezuma, which famous for Alakado.

But he is getting some love right now.

And you know, there are these directors that are just maybe under scene but prolific, Like this is a great example, Like, you know, this is not some fly by Night director.

Jose Maria Foque made fifteen movies.

What is the Yeah, it's credited for over fifty movies, So this is like a very accomplished you know, like this is this is his career.

It's not like some fluke.

You know.

I love I love that these people are getting attention as well.

It's a good time for it, you know.

With all these labels.

I think I mentioned on here that like early last year I did account worldwide and I was sitting somewhere at around one hundred and fifty active boutique labels, which is just insanity to think about that, right, Yeah, it was at the time.

I know that there's at least a handful of show I mean even just literally the day that we're recording.

This was the launch of one that you and I have talked about before, Jared the Cloud Door over in the UK looking at South Asian Cinema.

So I mean, we're still getting brand new boutique labels popping up pretty much out of nowhere.

And what's crazy is there's still so much untapped wells that theoretically could be delivered to everybody.

But yeah, the elements are going to be an issue.

Rights are going to be an issue, and finding finding an audience because if people aren't buying them, there's nothing that people can do.

You got to survive, and people can't just do this out of the goodness of their own heart, as much as we'd all want to, it's just you got to be able to pay for these things.

They cost a lot of money.

Yeah, it's and it's you know, it is sort of a worry for us sometimes that there's a sort of glut in the market, not that you know that there's a lot of people just releasing draws and that's just it.

That there's a lot of people releasing really interesting and cool stuff.

So it's something we sort of worry about, I think just because we're sort of a long lived, long lived label that you know, and there's all these sort of young whipper snappers that are that are coming up, and you know, it gets harder to like I talked about Air four four four snapping up some things that you know, I had gone after and and failed miserably to get.

So it's it's a concern, but at the same time as a fan, I mean I love to see it.

You like that cloud door thing you mentioned.

I mean, that's that's an area that's you know, really really untapped, is South Asian cinema.

It seems to be.

There's again I don't know how.

I don't think it'll ever be as popular as like Hong Kong stuff for Japanese stuff, but there's more and more of that stuff coming out.

And I think one thing to get excited about is Cholet just got a four K restoration, which I mean, if anyone you know, hopefully if you're listening to Amanda Macabo podcast, you know what Chole is.

It's the most important Bollywood film.

It's like the biggest Bollywood film ever and it's just an amazing, great spaghetti western inspired film, you know.

So it's gotten a big four K restoration and is premiering over in Italy right now, or it just did recently for that big wherever that I can't remember where it happens.

But you know what I'm talking about yep.

I think you got mentioned in my in the podcast I did with the Cloud Door guys.

I think they were hyping it up too.

Oh is that right?

Oh cool?

Oh cool, And you interviewed them.

That's really that's really neat.

I haven't seen that yet.

I'll need to check that out.

Yeah, So hopefully, Like I mean, that is something that probably requires a criterion or an arrow to go after, but I hope they do, and if they do, that could really I think turn a lot of people on to ah, to Indian cinema, South Asian cinema in general, because that's it's just a crowd pleaser no matter who you are, so, you know, very very exciting.

That's and again that's one area that I think has has got a lot of growth potential potentially, is the Indian cinema.

There's one thing, there's just so damn much of it.

Uh so much of it that is fun and is great, but again there's the downsides that we've talked about before, saying with the Philippines, same with Taiwan and Hong Kong is the film preservation is a huge issue there as well as just a crazy amount of films that are made so literally like there's just no room to store I mean, because there they may like they make you know, you know, and have always made several hundred films a year all throughout the you know, the country, in different languages and everything.

So it's it's a difficult area.

But I think, uh, it's it's nice to see there be more were physical HD releases out there now.

All right, So to bring this in for a close for a lot of people that are into the limited editions or are there any titles that are on the brink of being gone soon if people want to jump on those quicker than not.

Yeah, the one that's the most on the brink right now is the limited edition of Bahachabashido.

At the time of recording, and who knows what it'll be like when this actually comes out.

There's only ten copies left, So ten copies of this that slip cover is going away forever featuring that unique justin coffee art and this is the only place that'll ever be available in the booklet that's in it from Mark Shilling, Japanese film expert.

So that's yeah, So that is the thing that's most on the edge, and in fact, who knows by the time this comes out in a couple of days, it may be gone.

So so if you hear this and then race over there, then yeah, then sorry.

A few other things.

Let's see, I've only got one hundred left of the Sex Apocalypse, the Spanish Spanish softcore thing with Lena Ome and Judah Wilson.

Only thirty two left of Fata Morgana or f organ so no many.

Shadow of Death has got thirty seven remaining as of this, so very very close.

Only ninety four of Sinister Doctor Orloff, which is always I love the Sinister Doctor Orloff and it's always baffled me, but this one doesn't sell well.

Really great early eighties, uh Franco take on the Orloff thing from his Golden Films period, which which is some of his most interesting movies are are from that period, and I think this is one of them.

It's kind of great, it sort of got to it sort of gets a sort of lukewarm right up in the in the Stephen Thrower book about it.

I don't know if maybe that's colored people's impressions, but he's wrong, Sorry, Steve, sorry, uh so, yeah, So so that's let's make that one sell out by Hallew.

But during the Halloween sale, come on, people, you you want to buy Sinister Doctor or Alf And I think that's about it is close Apocalypse after Chris.

I know you're a big fan of that one.

Still like one hundred and seventy five copies of that one.

That's that's wild.

I think that's just one of those ones where people just if they had any idea what a good filmmaker Mendica was, that would have been gone instantly.

Yeah, I think.

I mean it's got the sort of short thing, short film thing going against it.

I think people like that.

I don't know, it seems like it's a good bang for its buck because it's like twenty movies on there, but like you would think that would attract people and again, and you know, and like the thing we were sort of let off with is maybe there's a lot of people who are like, ugh, new movies, you know, and that's just dumb because there are there are filmmakers like Mandico who are doing just as interesting stuff as filmmakers from any period.

I think that's just what I want to call out.

Like I'm a little honestly, I'm a little skeptical about new movies.

I get shitted on Ryan's discord for it when I when I if I go on Reconnected, which I should.

I know it's a character flaw.

I'm not presenting it as a saint.

But Mandico reminds me of somebody that would be talked about as a canonical filmmaker if he had been making movies in.

The sixties and seventies.

I agree, they're just.

Phenomenal, like they're just they are classics, Like what he's doing is just unreal.

So yeah, so sort of someone you think will probably maybe be underappreciated during the time that he's most active, and at some point someone will discover how unique his work is.

Again, not to talk about something that's not minda macabro.

Sorry, but have you seen she as Conan yet?

Not yet?

Not yet.

Again, I'm as guilty of this as a lot of people like of especially of like European stuff.

Those are definitely that.

That and some of his other movies are definitely on my radar.

And there's a lot of other stuff, like some weird French stuff that I want to see, but man, I just never get around to watching, especially European twenty first century stuff because I usually I am watching Asian stuff or sort of the bigger films that come out over here, like Centers or something.

You know, it's just because I do love going to the movies, so you know.

And unfortunately she and Conan did not play at my local regal.

I didn't get a chance, but I should.

I know it looks fantastic and Pete is a huge fan.

Pete raved about that movie to me, so I know it's something to say for sure.

Cool.

Well, this has all been great, covered a lot of titles, covered a lot of information for the upcoming year.

If anybody has any questions or comments on the episode everywhere, I always post this on social media.

I'd see those comments and I try to bring stuff up in the next episode, so let us know.

All three of us here are very receptive and want to hear what people think.

It's always exciting because with such a varied catalog, you get varied opinions and there are numerous people that have you know, either grown up on these or never even heard of it, and either way, we just love seeing people love the film.

So it's always a good time.

Yeah, it's especially fun when it's new people who are sort of new to what we're doing, and it's fun that we're still getting those people.

Yeah, you know, it's still that there's still people you know who you know, maybe get you know, attracted to one thing that we've put out and then you know, maybe they just got, oh, Cafe Flesh, I've heard about this, and then it just hopefully opens up, you know, a whole world of weirdness that you know, maybe they didn't know existed exactly.

Well, it's always fun to see people discover the wild side.

What a way to put can it?

Chris Jared, thanks for your time today.

Everybody else, make sure you subscribe and check out our past episodes.

There's some really great conversations there.

Thanks for everything.

We'll see you next time.

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