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Speaker 2Sweetee.
Speaker 3Yes, Hey everyone, I'm Wa and I'm Chris, and welcome to docu Sweeties.
Speaker 1We're two longtime friends who discussed the riveting and sometimes trashy world of reality TV and docuseries.
Speaker 3Yes, but through our own lens, which sometimes is pregnant and sometimes has given birth and sometimes wishes that they could have a child and still hoping out you know, like a geno.
So at the end of the day, hopefully mildly sweet you know, yeah, looks like a Matilda.
Yeah, she is sweet.
Speaker 1Well, this episode is ninety day fiance Happily.
Ever, after season nine, episode eighteen, Love actually is complicated.
Great now, we actually understood one of the titles of this Oh no, you know, it's it's toe that I never understand that the titles of that's what it is.
But anyways, this one made sense because it is actually complicated.
Let's just I mean, do you want to start out with the juggernaut of the episode or do you want to just use something stupid like Juliane Brandon you.
Speaker 3Know, yeah, sure, or like you know, a quick one.
Obviously there wasn't a lot.
Oh yeah, I was an also, I mean I guess Darcy and Georgie was kind of quick.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 3It was kind of like the it should have probably been what happened last episode, but they wanted to save it for this for really no reason.
Speaker 2But well, okay, now, can we talk with them about them now?
Because I feel like I have kind of okay.
Speaker 3So that's why I feel like it's annoying because obviously we're on the tail end of the last like the sentence that Georgie was about to say that they've already kind of showed us that, he says of last week's episode, which is them having a very staged sexy lounge cocktail bar meet up where he had downed a glass of wine, one whole glass before she got there, and then she showed up with one whole fucking titty out and like you know, in a cream ensemble, you know, like and he of course was like, hey, so when my sister mentioned kids to me, the word kids, I've been thinking about it ever since because I had never considered the concept until she said, like that's what we were like, okay, and Darcy.
Darcy for God bless knew in that moment what was coming, but that's when the episode ended.
So waw one minute, what guess what what happens this episode?
Speaker 1She he says, he says the words and then in this episode he says, so then we got together that the word is kids or like children.
He said the word in last episode, and then he said drin in this episode is what is what it is?
He said the word I'm gonna do another one.
He said the word pra in last episode, and then Jannie in this one.
You know what I mean, Like he just I didn't.
Speaker 2Know where you're gonna go.
It was like praian.
Speaker 1Progeny, Yeah, yeah that he said the word pair and then the word rent this yeah, you know what I mean.
It's just like it and she's like, uh, Turgie, just like, let's just end it.
And he's like, I felt as though he was alluding to the fact that he wanted to maybe have some kind of arrangement where they either did assarrogate or that he was allowed to go and have a baby on somebody and di da da da da or cause that's when he at the end of their segment, was like, well, if you don't want to try she and I was like, wait, wait a minute.
He made it seem like she was the one who was ending their relationship, and I was like, well, yeah, she ended it for good reason.
And it's weird for me that you want to remain married to her when you've now said the untake her back.
You can't take that back.
There are just certain things that once you say them, you cannot swallow that back.
And that is telling a woman who cannot have kids that you want kids, Like there's just no way she's going to get over that.
And she's like, I've asked you over and over again if you wanted kids.
And it's interesting that men, some men not Brandon, but that some men are just like out of sight, out of mind with like kids and like family and like altruism, if that's the right word.
Speaker 2I feel like that's a were in my brain.
Speaker 1Until they see examples of it in their own family and then they're like, oh, maybe me too.
It's weird.
It's a weird connection to make.
And then I think he finally is confronted with his parents as for thirteen years and he's like, I should probably have kids and I'm with this old biddy who's like half crazy, and I could just get with someone who's younger than me and we could go on to live a simple life or not or whatever.
But I just wouldn't have this hanger Honor and I and I actually I did.
I listened to you and Maddie last week, which was so fun, and I think that they do need their own spin off again.
Speaker 2They do need season five of The Darcy and Stacy Show, okay, because it was interesting.
Speaker 3I thought we were gonna be sharp, because I thought they were gonna set us up for that, like and in some way like because you're right.
Speaker 2He then he makes it seem like he.
Speaker 3Was just this is what he this is what he almost and this is okay.
He makes it seem like he was just sharing his honest feelings and that her reaction was mean and selfish because he never shares his feelings, so for him to open up and finally speak his truth, and her reaction was almost to shut it down and not be there for him and not like sit with him in this moment as he processes it, as if as he would then get to the option list that she never got to because she had a react like that's what he almost makes it seem like.
Speaker 2But at the same time, I also feel like it's a.
Speaker 3Little gas liddy because like, what are the options and if they were, like, wouldn't the producers cut?
And me be like so if Darky, if I was.
Speaker 2The producers, I'd be like Georgie.
Speaker 3If Darcy didn't have the reaction that she did and was able to like listen to what your feelings were, what were you going to go on to say as being what you thought could happen next in the relationship if it were to continue, what were You're right, because you could have been surrogacy, could have been adopted.
Who knows all the things?
Speaker 2Right?
Yeah?
Speaker 3I mean yeah pop and m so what pop?
Which is ethnical nominogamy?
Speaker 1Okay, but here but here's all this Chris, oh sorry, good say no.
Speaker 3For a moment I thought I had messed up with the EDC.
But I'm and or like the music and I'm happy I didn't.
That's why I had caused it.
Speaker 1Was like pop.
Ok Anyways, I think that well, what I was gonna say, oh, she doesn't want kids.
Speaker 2She doesn't.
Speaker 1Even if he had brought up the idea of Syracusey.
Speaker 2She's done.
She been done.
Speaker 1I cannot imagine Darcy getting back to a place where she's waking up at all times of the night, she's changing diapers, and like when she had kids, she lived with her sister who also had kids.
And it seems like based on Twin Life that you know, reality show that did so well in the early odds, that they lived together and their husbands like all live together in one home and they raise.
Speaker 2Their kids basically together or at least very close by.
Speaker 1And I think when you have that kind of village, it's easy to not easy, it's easier.
It takes some of the burdens off, right, And like now Floria and Stacy are not going to be babysitting, They're not going to help her do any of that.
Speaker 2She's done with that.
That's the bed part of her life is over.
Speaker 1And so I think that's another reason why she's like, well, just Georgie, let's just end it, Like why do you keep wanting?
And he's like, I love you and she's like, yeah, I know that, but you're not.
At the end, she finally says the thing that we want her to say.
It's like Georgie's not going to give me what I want and so it's just time to end it.
And I was like, thank God.
Speaker 3I wonder if in her mind she thinks that he's been waiting and baiting a time in which to find a good reason to justify to not want to be with her or not or admit that he didn't love her enough to her standards, and that if in this moment it's like the thing that is like, well, the of course you're gonna use the kids, because you know I can't give them to you pre naturally.
Speaker 2Weel, oh, if this is.
Speaker 3What it will like, it almost feel like cr energy is if this is what it always was.
Fucking you should have told me early on because you knew it was this and and you know, like I get that side of it too, you know, because it just seems so crazy, as you said, just to be like, finally I've actually sat with the thought of kids and me and honestly and realistically yeah, and it's like, well then you just never I mean, it just seems like kids, career are certain things you should have sat with at some point in yourself to like realistically know if you'd want them.
If in certain situations, Like I know I want and have wanted kids, but I also want them in a certain situation, which I haven't because of my own things, you know, like whatever, So anyway, had that hasn't hapened, that's why I haven't done it yet or whatever, God bless, But I know that enough to like if someone asked me, I think I could be honest about it, well, I mean you didn't even know, and I'm oversharing.
Speaker 1But yeah, you're right, You're right.
It just it just is a weird thing for some you know that.
I think some men, except for Brandon, you know, just just in their minds, like they can just make a decision on one day and then be like, Okay, yeah, I think I do want someone who wants kids.
And you're just like, remember I told you that, like my ovaries were gonna shut down in two years.
I told you that two years ago, and now you're telling me you want kids.
But remember two years ago when I told you that that that's when we needed to jump on it, Like that's when we needed to do the thing.
So yeah, yeah, this entire rented out bar space too was like really very interesting for them too.
It was like the space they rented out so that they could break up.
Speaker 2Right, that's very nice of them.
Speaker 3Like why you know, like because often they won't pay for anything, Like was this space free?
Like was it just no one was in the bar but it was open because I just I can't.
Speaker 2Imagine they pay the money.
Speaker 1Yeah, to me, it looked like, you know, like when YouTube has these kind of spaces where they're just presets and just go in and act on them.
That what I was like, I was like, is this a sound stage?
It's just just like a did they just like that's very smart.
I just feel like there's certain places and where they are in Miami there would be a bar setup.
Speaker 2That's very smart.
Speaker 3And I'll tell you why I wish I Okay, I realized I must have said this.
I have pictures from that night on the other feet or whatever anyway, but I had taken pictures of the wine that they had served, And now I go back and realize it was one brand of wine that they showed, which is weird, right if you're at a bar the multiple So yeah, I think it was a sound stage.
That's exactly what it was.
Speaker 1Think you all right, let's move on to the couples.
So you've made You've made mentioned I have inquired about s'mores and you have talked about them like yeah, and I've been like, it's so crazy to me that anytime they get to show a s'more happening with the American they will let a shline does smores.
Everyone does smores.
And the time that I actually had, the times that I've had one or two is so overwhelmingly sweet that I can't even finish it.
Like, so to me, it's this like thing that I'm like, oh, yeah, I want, but I guess I never had it as a kit.
I never had it as a kid, to be.
Speaker 2Honest, if we're being honest, no, please be always.
Speaker 3Yeah.
I think that there must have been like some seo search algorithm where they realize every time they so like they show it on TV, like there's a lot of searches for it, because yeah, like it feels like fetish content at the time, because it's like, how does there so many smores?
Like you know, there's like just not that many tear massous or PoTA krems or like boudinos or puddings.
Speaker 2We just don't talk about them.
How come?
Speaker 3But there's smores everywhere.
Now I'll tell you this, I fucking love us more.
But I think that you have to do a couple of things.
Hey, never use milk chocolate because it is too fucking sweet.
You have to use dark chocolate because you have the marshmallow.
And the Graham Cracker is a sweet bread, you know, like, so because of that, you have to cut out the sweetness and fucking milk chocolate, dark chocolate, marshmallow.
And yeah, like a gram cracker, the better, the the you know, the more homemade or the like more artisan or the more mom and pop.
Away from Honeygrams, you can get the better obviously, and away from her She's chocolate obviously better, the better quality dark chocolate, not as sweet, truly, so goddamn great because of the textures, you know, and and I think also just the atmosphere.
There's a smokiness.
But let's talk about it's moores morphs that turns into.
Speaker 1Smurf and he tries to like make fun of her.
He's like, yeah, those are two different words.
I'm like they are, but like we can just relax on the fact that like s'mores and smurfs are pretty close.
Like, let's just give.
Speaker 2It to her.
Speaker 1Yeah, let's just someone who speaks more than one language.
Let's just give it to them when they say the wrong word.
Speaker 3Yeah, especially when she's so much hotter than you.
You ask like he is trying to nag her all the goddamn time.
And also smorph sounds exactly like some sort of weird chair they.
Speaker 2Sell at Ikia.
Yeah, like smo rf.
Speaker 1It also sounds like a power Ranger move, like I'm smorphed him.
Yeah, you did, you smorphed him.
We were all saying s'morph in the nineties.
Speaker 3It's fine, power Ranger mover is now smorphed kind of like if you like hook up with someone, Like there was a time in which I think British people use the word snogged, and I always thought that was so dumb, but also like envious of it in some way because no one was snogging me, so like I don't know if I was more envious of the word or the act, but.
Speaker 2It sort of sounds like smorph.
Speaker 3She's at like at one point, yars like are these gluten free?
And I was like, oh my god, you are.
You're gonna say something obnoxious now every episode for me anyway, even though I like gluten free shit, I hate that for myself anyway.
At one point, Jovi starts to skewer his more, not like you do a s'more, like everyone knows how you do a s more.
Speaker 2I mean, like, if you don't know, I'm so sorry.
Maybe you don't.
That's a privilege.
Speaker 3I'll just tell you, I guess, because I've already been telling you how to make a god one.
Speaker 2But it's like you obviously, okay, you have to heat up.
Speaker 3The marshmallow over a flame, and that's like on a stick, and usually you know, and then there's obviously sweetbread that like you wouldn't heat up because it's a cracker and it would heat up and it would fall off, Like doesn't make any go damn sense.
Nor would you heat up the chocolate too much because it's gonna mel It's over a goddamn open flame.
Speaker 2So the marshmallows what you eat up.
That's the magic of it is that the marshmallows.
Speaker 3All you need because once you put it in and smashes all it down, everything else gets hot.
It's perfect test anyway, But this asshole Jobe is gonna tell her she doesn't know how to say the word some more, and he's gonna try and like kebab it like a goddamn shish to look like it has chicken and then like an onion and a goddamn red pepper all in one skewer and put it on.
Like everyone is like, Nope, that's not how you do a buddy, take a step back and look at yourself.
Embarrassing.
M Borrowsing is honestly with Libby is like, no, you're dumb.
Speaker 2Yeah, definitely he was.
He yes.
Speaker 1So we get Andre and Libby, they come out to sit down and talk to them, and I think that if Libby were allowed to just speak without Andre trying to like overbearingly yell and talk, then like at least she would have had a decent argument, because I think that she's I think that she is right.
I think that she is wrong for telling Yara what she told her because it was petty.
But I just think the idea that Yara and Jovie are the ones that kind of shake shit up.
Yara is the one who told her that Lauren was talking shit, so Yara is involved.
Jovi is the one who demanded that Lauren know that Libby has said about Yara's clothes like it is that they are.
They are the potsters, whether or not they mean to be, they are the potsters.
And when Libby calls them out on it, she's like, I don't know what they're talking about.
I think that I'm just trying to be everyone's friend.
And I'm like, don't take the I'm trying to be everyone's friend attitude at like, don't do it.
Cop to what you did.
And that's the part that annoys me.
And then Andrea is like, oh, yeah, you guys have tried to put both sides of the fence, and I'm like, Andre, shut up.
Your argument's stupid.
Let Libby talk.
So Libby is like explaining that, you know, there's a lot of things that have gone down and there's a lot of been a lot of miscommunication, and she's relatively calm because here's the truth.
Libby doesn't like awkward situations, so she usually wants to get out of them.
But when she's willing to like sit down and like have a decent conversation, it's easier for me to like understand put what she's picked put, easier for me to pick up what.
Speaker 2She's putting down.
Speaker 1Without Andrea's loud insistence or whatever.
And then I do like the fact when he's like, let's go bibe and Yaa is like, what do you mean that's go bibe?
Sit down, we're shooting a scene.
Speaker 3Man, be mature, sit down.
I'm talking to you.
Yeah, Like that was she does.
There's a part of her that will stand out to him in a way that Libby won't, and I times just feel like it comes from the Eastern European place of like, I know you m m mmmm, like the kind of thing that you can do because he's one of her own.
Speaker 1Yes, Like to the point where she's like, Andre are like drama king, He's like an animal, and I'm like, well, it only made sense because you said that, like drama King is hilarious and an animal is hilarious.
And so then Jovi tries to point out that Andre makes enemies wherever he goes, and then Lebby tries to like explain that that's not true.
But I was like, it is true.
That's true, it's true.
But I can see in this in the in the instances that you cited, Yes, your family was antagonistic towards him, Yes you know that, but there's still gonna be at least in the United Day Fiance franchise.
Of what we've seen, that's how Andre gets paid is by coming in and making up something stupid like saying that people are jealous of him in order to get you know, clickbait.
Like he he gets the game.
Now, like maybe his first season he was probably an innocence, but like after that first season with him in Shock.
Speaker 3Yeah, Libby was like, yeah, guys, just you know, my family was really fucked up before he came in.
We've all hated each other and now we'n't even fucking talked to each other.
And I wanted to know a little more about that because I've already complained that I would rather have her family on this show and their drama, you know, like I because I like the trash of it all, Like you know, like I don't mind those people being trash in her fucking brother and like his you know, god bless wife and anyway and the sister.
So but we haven't seen them.
And then now I'm like, well, is this a real reason?
Why?
Speaker 2Is because they don't talk?
Speaker 3And now I'm like, okay, I'm guys, I'm gonna have to fucking go to her Instagram during this holiday season and see if she posts with any of them, And if she really doesn't post with any of her family, then I'll be like, oh, maybe they just real Maybe they just cut yea that shit out, cut it out?
Speaker 2Yeah, I know what was the ID this?
I don't even know because this is easy.
Speaker 1Yeah, cut out.
Maybe it was that.
Yeah, okay, because this is out.
Speaker 3Well yeah, we could we establish what the book ends are.
Speaker 1It must have been cut it out.
It must have been that anyway.
Speaker 2Yes, so that's just it's.
Speaker 1Now Libby says like dos donia, which is not what she said, but she said something, and the Yara is like, oh she said bye bitch and not nice by bitch, and I'm like, there's I was like, you need to say it again and tell me the difference between the nice and the nice bye bitch and the mean bye bitch by you fucking cunt, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2Like, yes, spasiba bitch.
Speaker 3I don't know, but yeah, I didn't know what she said either, and I wish I did.
Speaker 1And obviously if Libby learned that, she learned it from Andre, so it would not be the nice version of.
Speaker 2It, of course not.
Yeah, how was she supposed to know?
Speaker 3She don't learn from Becky you booby or whatever the fucking booty I recovered it called Bookie, Okay, what do you want to move on to?
Speaker 2We could do Julia and Brandon.
Speaker 1So they First of all, she is taking out his motorcycle.
Who knew he had a motorcycle?
Who knew that?
Speaker 2I didn't know that about him at all?
Yeah, I don't know, I guess.
Speaker 3I also was like, is this real?
This could just I don't believe.
There's a lot of things I don't believe about them.
There's a lot of things that even in this.
Speaker 2One early scene where we're looking at.
Speaker 3This motorcycle and she's like, I'm gonna sell it on I don't know, Facebook marketplace for nineteen nine and ninety nine dollars.
She also says He's also like, yeah, you know, we're doing this because some good news and bad news.
I was able to jump back into work right away.
And the apartment didn't sell, and I was like, oh, is that because you didn't really quit your job?
And is that because she didn't really put up her apartment to sell?
Like I feel like right, And the timeline's so crazy, So it's like I don't even know, Like I get I can see a part of Brandon that's like I just want to be known as like a guy that would have a motorcycle, Like I could see him run one, and it's being like, yell, I have the scene.
We are you gonna sell it and then we'll never talk about it again, you know.
Speaker 1Yeah, I can't even imagine that Betty would allow him to have a motorcycle, like her only son could die from a motorcycle accident.
Speaker 2Never, You're absolutely right, Like why would she allow not?
Speaker 3Why would she not want him to go to Europe for like two weeks, like take down the streets of wherever he is Kansas on like a death death scooter.
Speaker 1Yeah, because her only child is going to Europe without her.
She can't let that happen.
So they talk about wanting to move to a bigger house.
Speaker 3Uh.
Speaker 1And so now they're trying to see if they can sell some stuff to recoup the money that they spent in Europe.
We find out that she does not want to tell Betty about the baby.
She's in her second trimester and she doesn't want to tell Betty because Betty's gonna cause her stress, which I think is valid.
I think it's a completely valid point.
But now she's five months and they're talking about whether or not she shows in her alpha and I was like, you show in your neck.
Yeah, it's unfortunate it's in your neck.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3That was interesting when she was like, yeah, you know, like if I were clothes like this, no one want to tell.
Speaker 2And I was like, babe, no, it's.
Speaker 3Like I hate it's like yeah, it's because you know, yeah, yeah, because you are you know, like.
Speaker 2I mean it's hard bodies hard.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean I show on my neck too.
I look at old pictures of myself and I'm like, oh my god, then my face has gotten so round.
But you know, it is what it is.
I show in my neck too, So it is we're living, We're in our lives.
Our necks are showing fat, so we get out of hide.
Speaker 3What's you're making me want to be?
Like, it's give me like stuck on your neck, nones king, don't do that.
I'm just it's a horrible joke, but yeah, it's just it.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1So I was like, girl, you're not hiding anything, which led me to believe like, okay, so you truly haven't seen them and maybe, Okay, I'll give her two months.
I'll give her two months.
She hasn't seen them in two months, because three months you may not look pregnant, and so I was just like okay, So then they do this stupid scene with carrying a baby and a baby carrier.
I yes, it is such a foreign concept to me that and not anymore.
It used to be a very foreign concept that there are people in my life that I knew who had never really been about around babies, and so there are just things that they get so excited about, like they never like them being so excited about this carrier is so weird to me, And I'm like, oh, you're one of these You're these people who just like don't know anything about baby stuff, Like you've never perused an aisle and Target just looking at all the baby things, You've never gone to baby showers.
You just I've owned so many baby showers that there is no way that I could come out of this unknowing ignorant.
Speaker 2So many baby showers.
Speaker 1Since I was a kid, like going with my mother to the places to buy things for people who are who's going to seeing pregnant people and being around pregnancy it's been a thing in my entire life.
So it's always interesting when she's like I know nothing about babies.
I'm like, oh god, you need class or two.
This doesn't make me feel like, you know, And and I was watching or I'm not watching something.
But just in my travels of listening and watching things and having people say women that after they give birth that like they can just take their baby home and nobody, nobody stops them, I think it's such an interesting thing when they're like, so I just had this baby and now I'm just like supposed to just take it home like there's no help.
I'm just like leaving the hospital with this baby and everyone expects everything to be okay.
And that's what they reminded me of of two people, just like what do I do?
Speaker 2Take a class?
That's what you do?
Google it.
Speaker 3In high school I had to do that thing where like I had to like take care of an egg, like a raw egg, for like I don't know, like three days.
Speaker 2I can't remember.
That sounds crazy, like how was the egg?
Okay?
Speaker 3I guess it still happened though, and like you know, you had to like pretend that egg was a baby or whatever, and they kind of give me that vibe like they've been like assigned like a high school task of like being the parents of like some fake doll you know that like will like record if they don't, you know, pick up the doll when it cries after five minutes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2But at the same time, you know, you're thrown in the fire.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, you wanted a baby so bad, Brandon.
I figured you would have done some kind of research so that you could be prepared for every single moment of your wife's like pregnancy and after pregnancy.
I mean, but that's obviously.
Speaker 2Not the case.
Speaker 1Now, he says that the extension of their family is such a core experience that he feels like he's missing it with his parents.
And this is where I Okay, I don't know if you've seen this on TikTok or you've seen this maybe is it on Instagram?
I'm not sure, but there is this creator called Shanna the Mom, and Shanna the Mom has created a series on TikTok of this McAllister family and how they interact with the different members of the macallics of their family.
So it's Shawna, her husband, her two kids, and then her husband's side of the family, specifically mom and dad and sister.
And it's such a testament to like what a healthy family and or like unhealthy or anyways, those people out there who know Shanna the mom and the Callagier family, you know exactly what I'm talking about.
So there's a segment of this Brandon and Julia where the friends of Brandon and Julia when they finally tell them in some kind of chocolate doodle that they're pregnant.
And we can go back to that if you want to expound on it.
Now that there's this insistence that Ron and Betty need to be a part of this experience, and I'm like, they do not.
It is not their inalienable right to be a part of this child's life.
It is Brandon and Julia's decision and choice.
And if Julia does not want Bed in her life at this moment, but for everyone to be like, well, you should tell them, like it's important for them to know.
I'm like, y'all are toxic, like not toxic actively, but you don't realize that what you were pushing onto them.
To me, it can can be toxic because sometimes parents are not it and Betty and Ron don't seem it from what they told her before they left for Europe and the way that they acted, like, I see why she doesn't want them indwelved, It's like.
Speaker 3Very hard for me to not give grace to whatever the mom wishes.
Speaker 2What is the mom the whatever?
Speaker 3Doli like, unless she is so wildly unhinged, and even then I'm gonna blame hormones and be like you, then why would then just let her be for a moment, Like it's going to be very difficult for me.
Speaker 2Not to just one hundred percent be like whatever she wants for her do is she's cooking?
Speaker 1Yep?
I agree, Like, I just think it's so weird that they were like, well, you have to tell Betty.
Speaker 3No, they don't have to tell Betty and Ron.
I mean, he's he's Brandon says something dumb.
He says, it's a monumental event in my family tree.
And I thought that that was like a weird entry into like the linear infrastructure of his head, you know, because it's like then every then then the tree that matters is his family tree, and a branch of that is Julia and Brandon.
Speaker 2And Julia is literally a leaf.
Speaker 3On the branch of his family tree without considering the forest, and.
Speaker 2That Julia is actually a leaf on a branch of her own family tree.
Speaker 3And so Julia's own leaf is as important as Brandon.
This is like, so why am I can't get out as goddamn metaphor?
But you know, like it's just it's obvious that he's like, this is important to me and my lineage without being like, no, Julia's priority and whatever she wants is what it is because she's the mother of this child.
Speaker 2Fact, there's a brand new tree.
Speaker 3She's the seed, and I just get to be the little gopher that like I don't know, buries holes around the tree and puts nuts in them and then just basks in the glow of the shade.
Speaker 1Get me out of this, Okay, So, yeah, you're right, this is so interesting that he feels like this like this is the core.
Yeah, this whole core experience, this whole family tree and branch.
And it made me go, well, then Ron and Betty should have had more kids.
Now I don't know their story, so maybe they couldn't.
And so that's the first thing I thought, And I was like, no, that's not generous, because you don't know what Betty's story has been.
However, I still think that Betty is too involved in Brandon's life, and I understand why Julia would not would want them to not know as long as possible.
And then they're like as though there's gonna be some monumental like blowback from Betty, and I'm like, how much?
Why are all these people scared of Betty?
How does she affect everyone's life so much?
Unless it's monetarily.
Speaker 2I think it's that.
Speaker 3I think that when he listen, Yeah, when his first option of like talking to his parents was that they would give him a down payment on a home, I was like, Antenna, Oh, you're financially reliant on your parents.
Speaker 2Yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 3That's one but yeah, one dumb thing that we know.
We glossed over it, but just yeah, like when they ask NICKI and Jude, it's such a they have no personality.
God bless cub.
I mean, but we've never I don't know if we ever met him.
I can't imagine if we have, because truly, I think we've met a lot of his friends, and these people don't remember their faces at all, nor their names.
Speaker 2So just whatever, God bless They're like, will you be God?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 2Are you calling us fat people?
Yeah?
Speaker 3Meanwhile, you know, I love Julia's like, I'll get the notches with the pretzel and pretzel nuggets, please, you know.
And I wonder if and she was like and a side of chocolate sauce.
For a moment, I was like, is she gonna fucking dunk one of those salty ass things in some goddamn chocolate sauce?
And I was happy to know that No, she was just gonna like ruin a plate by pretending to be like someone who's wishing happy birthday to their friend.
Speaker 1You know what, I wouldn't be mad at her if she had a chip, if she was doing the pretzels and she dunked it in chocolate as well as then junked it in the like not at the same time.
But those are two different sides.
She could do like a chocolate pretzel salty pretzel, and then she could do like a cheesy salty pretzel.
Speaker 2That's like kondu.
That's some fondution.
Speaker 3Yeah, okay, do you even have to say about them?
Speaker 1Nope, let's move on to the p the resistance.
I don't know that's the right term.
Gino and Jasmine.
So we get this scene of him in this bright, beautiful kitchen, and I said, whose home is this?
This is not the home where Jasmine moved in.
This is not that home.
This is this is not that townhouse.
This is a different space I had.
And so I was immediately mad because I was like, so he moved or they moved, there was a move, and this is the house he kicked her out of, Like it's crazy.
So then he's like, I just love cheese and crackers, which upset me because I also love cheese and crackers and I don't want anything in common with him.
Then two, what was that?
Speaker 3What is this summer sausage?
Yeah, it's okay, this is what this is.
I really broke this down.
I also am someone who have maybe half my body is cheese and crackers.
He has a summer sausage that he starts to cut up, and his fingers are in the summer sausage, and the summer sausage starts to like it maybe it's warm or something.
It's very soft, like it's like almost those like it's made from frosting.
But it's summer sausage, like the kind that isn't refrigerated that you get like in one of those weird baskets or whatever, and you get like the different toponades in the same basket, and then what looks like a Brandless mild cheddar cheese block product.
You know what I'm saying that he is cut on the bias.
I mean, as he's as if he's like, you know, Liz lemoning it up.
And that's a thirty rock deep joke for anyone who watched a lot of thirty rock.
Speaker 2That's why moving on.
Speaker 3But he really is like I haven't been eating walalace.
It's been frozen food since Jasmine's gone.
And I was like, well, that's one.
Speaker 2Thing, but I mean.
Speaker 3To me, it's like, how are you Italian?
And you don't seek out better food?
But he doesn't seek out better of a lot of things.
That's why when he even goes to like a kind of like a normal nice shop, it's like I'm doing the biggest thing ever, you know, because it's like he doesn't seek out the better or best.
He's like quite comfortable with like lower than acceptable levels in all things.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's like it's not that it Yeah, he doesn't seek it out, but it's because he's so busy trying to seek out the cheapest like he's it's not like he's just like, oh, I don't know where to go.
He's seeking, he's seeking the least.
And so talk to me about this summer sausage.
Is it blowney?
Is that what that is?
Because that doesn't look it doesn't look like any I don't.
Speaker 3It's a product.
It's a processed product, that is.
Yeah, so it's process different parts.
Speaker 2Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1It's it's like a hot dog without casing.
Speaker 2There's a casing that has casing.
Speaker 3Yeah, he see that thing on the very common on the very side with the stuff on it.
That's usually sometimes it comes like in a dark burgundy or brown casing.
Speaker 2I mean, you know, I've eaten.
Speaker 3Some summer there's there is some good summer sausage, but you have to, you know, like seek it out.
And I did not look good.
There usually is marbling to it.
So the fact that that looks again like Tony, let's move on.
Yeah, I just didn't know what it was.
I've never seen it, I guess in real life.
So next time I get an opportunity to see some summer sausage, I'm gonna note that he still has the ugliest, nastiest version of it in my mind.
Speaker 1So anyways, he's making that play and he's telling the cameras just about everything that he's gonna do to shit on Jasmine.
He's still talking about Jasmine, and he's still like, I'm not gonna die to ruin my life, even I wasted four years of my life on Jasmine, and I was like, you got your toes sucked.
You got on this show.
Like the last four years with Jasmine was not a waste for you.
Like you did thing you were, you had a good time.
Speaker 2I it's so interesting that he.
Speaker 3As like in his mind a court case or like to stand on about like being mad of the money he paid for her when they met on sugar baby websites.
Yeah, he literally, which is which is why it's so dumb for him to go into what he's about to do, because he signed up for the exact thing.
I mean, he got more than a sugar baby.
He actually got a sugar baby that pretended to love him.
He could have not you know what I'm saying, Like he could have just gotten someone who's like, all right, no, I'll pretend you know, I'll show to your fans like it, you know, but we're not gonna like, I'm not gonna suck your toes.
Sucking your toes is more than just what you need to do, Like sucking your toes involves unless you like it.
You know, it's a hard challenge.
Speaker 2I think.
Speaker 1Yeah, right, so that's a lot's put a lot of you know.
Speaker 3So having said that, yes, he it's just I hate him so much, let's talk about this.
So then he's like, I'm going to make a profile on a dating website.
And we're like, oh, first of all, which one?
And he is like, you know, and it's got to be it.
And then what he does is he opens like a Google doc, which I thought was so weird.
And then he's going to just like prep his Google He's gonna prep a dating website that's.
Speaker 1Not a Google doc, that is a word doc that that person opened up office.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're right, he does.
Speaker 3What I meant to say is yes he opened a word processing program.
Yes, yes, And there's like all the options he could have done so many things.
Gino's dating profile rough draft and it's I mean middle in the middle underlined I hate him.
And then Okay, this is why I think it's psychotic.
Speaker 2Just know this.
Speaker 3I think that even formatting things are psychotic.
It's gino is capitalized.
No other part of it is.
It's the title of this fucking dumb essay that he's writing.
That's again bolded and it's italicized.
And then off to the right he's going to do another bold italicized.
Speaker 2Love to love to travel World.
Speaker 3Now, have we, in our entire knowledge of him, besides Legoland and Panama, seen this man leave Miami, Legoland, Panama, Michigan.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's like, do you mean he says the world?
He's like, well, I've been a brizil.
My first wife was wrong, then I went to Panama.
That's not the world, Okay.
The world includes Australia, all the China place, all the like Asian countries, China, and east of that.
It includes Europe, like there is there is.
You can't tell me you're a world traveler and you've only been to Europe.
You're not a world traveler.
You're a traveler.
You travel, You're.
Speaker 2Traveled, you've traveled.
Speaker 1Yeah, but you got to be traveling in the world.
Speaker 2You don't have the money to travel the world.
Speaker 3He wouldn't have money to travel the world, and he's not gonna world traveler.
Speaker 1Makes it seem like, Hey, I love to travel and I'm gonna take you with me.
Speaker 2That's exactly what that means.
Speaker 3It actually means you expect world travel, yes, for the rest of your life, that you want someone in your soulmate to be a world traveler.
Speaker 1That's the first thing he writes down.
Speaker 2It's a lie.
Speaker 1It's a lie.
I'm so mad about it.
Speaker 2I have to a picture.
Speaker 1It's so it's such a lie.
And then he's like, oh, I'm gonna get it pictured from twenty years to Go with Me and beach with hair, and then and then they show us as like this picture of him and he's even the fact that he's even considering putting that picture up there is wild.
I'm like, gino, that picture belongs on a like memory on Instagram or Facebook.
It doesn't belong or maybe hanging up like in an album or on the wall somewhere, because it was a great memory, not something that you have on your computer ready to utilize at any moment.
That is not a relevant picture of you.
It's not a factual picture of you.
So I was like, oh, he's trying to catfish low key.
That's like if.
Speaker 3Sean Aston used a picture of young Patty Duke his mother and was like, same person.
That's how far away those two people look in those pictures and the same thing.
I just like, don't even get how You're like, I want to put down love to travel the world, and I don't want sugar babies.
Yeah, there are there are obvious high falutint women, sugar baby.
Ask like, whatever you're gonna say kind of things, maintenance women, whatever, And I am not saying I'm not one things that are like obvious, like if you're like fine dining, if you can't be like, I don't want sugar babies, but I'm a world traveler that loves fine dining, nice hotels and looking for someone to appreciate cultured events.
You're like, well, I'm not saying you don't want a sugar baby, but you those are lies for you women?
Speaker 2Are you attracting?
Speaker 3Yes, okay, let it go, just I can't much.
Speaker 2Yeah, you know he's a fucking liar.
Speaker 3That's wait, except for this member.
Then he googles how to avoid sugar baby?
Speaker 2What do you mean?
Speaker 1How do you avoid them?
You don't go on sugar baby sites.
That's what you don't do.
You don't go on sites looking for women or go on a regular site and then start talking about how you're gonna spend out your money and you'll pay for them to do all this stuff.
That's what you don't do.
The fuck my god, goddamn nerves.
So then he so he's sitting there plotting, you know, what he's gonna do on his uh fucking thing, and he's like, I don't you know, I I don't wanna get a divorce with Jasmine right now because of my immigration complaint and you know, I have a lot of investments and things right now, and also because she's a cheater, a liar, and a hoe.
Speaker 3I would have I would have I would have given him a little more grace if he would have given me like the Italian word for that, Oh it's not fungoul, but because that means I can fuck you, I think, and I him sorry, I'm black and meet to say fuck, but there's you know, I'm assuming there's an Italian word for it.
Speaker 1Yeah, but I'm just still like a hoe.
Okay, a liar, a cheater, and a hoe.
Speaker 3I know.
Speaker 1Just next scene, uncle Daddy Gino calls I mean Marco calls him and tells him, uh that he just got a message from somebody else on Facebook telling him that that Jasmine has posted a picture of herself and the baby.
And I thought this was so messy of uncle Daddy Gino.
I was just uncle Daddy Marco.
I was like, is this for the show?
Speaker 2Like it didn't.
Speaker 1He just finish saying that he doesn't give a fuck about Jasmine and what she's doing, but here he is like leaning into it and being like, oh, I guess she had the baby.
Speaker 3Oh okay, and Dana like I almost want to know more, like yeah, you is there been a conversation with Marco and Dana that seems like it'd be like a great conversation to have because you have two povs on Gino's like family tree.
I want to see what they say to each other because Gina's like dumb, so it's like he's, yeah, I want to see two people like talk about that for yeah, I don't know that.
And also I just feel like one of the weird thing is that Uncle Marco de Gina was like, don't worry Gino, like you'll get one someday, And then it was like, are we really supposed to believe that Gino's like one of Gino's chief goals in life is to be a dad.
Speaker 2You know, if it was, he would have fucked his wife, which one didn't.
Speaker 1I see that Goofy has a picture of him where he still has like slivers of hair, but they're all sticking straight up his wedding photo where they.
Speaker 2Want on his wife's face.
Speaker 1Okay, so yeah, it's like, g you know, if you really wanted kids, you see, she's fertile as fuck, you could have had a baby on her if you had just had sex with her, but you were so busy trying to teach her a fucking lesson that you decided.
Speaker 2To not do that.
Speaker 1And it's it's really crazy.
So we do move on to Jasmine, who is nervously packing and making Matilda look cute because Matt's mother is coming.
And I don't know what I expected from Matt's mother.
Speaker 2What do you expect?
Waw would you spat pa?
Speaker 3What'd you that.
Speaker 1She she?
Speaker 2What do you think she's gonna look like?
Well?
Speaker 1I just don't.
For some reason, I thought she's gonna look like Natalie's mother.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
I thought she's gonna look like Natalie's mother.
I thought we were gonna have a good Christian Romanian woman come in and she was gonna look real Eastern European and she was gonna give us like a nice little face or whatever.
But she distinctly gave me like the whole time I'm watching her, I was like, Baba Yaga, like who is this?
Who is this woman who entrapped Hansel and Gretel?
Like do you have a candy house in the wood, ma'am.
Anyways, that being said, Matt looks like his people's them.
They all had the same coloring.
And I have never thought to say that about anybody, but I was like, oh, this is what they say when they say you all have the same coloring.
The hair was the same, was a strawberry blonde, I don't know, but it was.
I was like, Wow, you guys all look cookie cutter copies of this mother.
So from the.
Speaker 3Same cloth, if you will, cut from the same cloth.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And the way that Matt held on to Matilda like a Matt Matilda was his shield.
The whole time he was holding onto that baby like whatever you say, look at this little bundle of baby in my arms.
Because every time, every time his mother looked at him to be like, Matt, what you doing, he was like, I just like lifted the baby up and hid behind Matilda.
And also it doesn't hurt that Matilda also looks like them.
So the cloth is a thick, hereditary cloth.
Speaker 3Okay, Jasmine was the scissor, but she cut from that cloth.
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, yeah, Jasmine literally was just the soil.
That seed is theirs.
And and that's a weird thing to say, but like it's it's very interesting.
So mother comes over.
Matt has lied to mother.
Matt.
Matt has told mother that they are engaged and that's not true, and so she she does her best to try to impress them with some like really terrible porridge.
And I don't know who's i I it was.
Speaker 3She describes it as polenta Latina style.
I love creamy polenta.
Oh my god, an Italian creama polenta with like some parmesan or some truffle oil.
Speaker 2So good.
So yeah, it was watery.
Speaker 3And before they even started eating it, they started to describe what it should be and they said things like fetta and basil and then, so when I saw it, I was like, where's is it?
The feeda hasn't been melted completely.
I just haven't even had completely melted fled feta before.
Like usually, the consistency of feta is that it sort of like maintains a certain gloopiness that like exists in any and so I was like, where's even in the glue?
I don't even understand?
How did you pure it?
The mot okay?
So the mother's name, Olympia.
What a beautiful name.
Speaker 2What a beautiful name, What a gorgeous name?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3And I think that a lot of things happened here a Rebecca, the daughter came over.
Rebecca's a lovely put together lady.
Rebecca knew she was being on TV.
Speaker 2We've talked about this, you talk about this.
Speaker 1That's what it is.
Speaker 2Here's the thing.
Speaker 3It's like, No, Olympia, God Bless could have used a little help.
And I am not saying that Olympia should have known, but I think that she had enough people around her, like Matt and Rebecca to be like, hey, mom, we love you so much.
You're gonna be like on like the kind of like a big ass TV show or whatever, so like let's make sure just like to brush that hair.
Let's make sure to like, you know, let's make sure to just like you know, put like it's hard because you have to style your hair in some way, like it took me a long time.
It's like your hair has a style, give you whatever it is, like you master that style.
But it's like there's a there's a thought process behind it.
And I have been someone that has had haphazard hair where it's like, well, this is what it is.
It is there, and I recognize that when you're like in certain situations, more is asked of you, you know what I'm saying.
And if it's and if you're not used to that, people around you that love you should like be like come on right before let's like get to like dry bar.
Let's put a little like root in there, kind of like give it some dimension, kind of like give some different tones.
You know, like you know how everyone is not into the area on a grande look right now, even though I think she just dyed her hair back brown, it's because you know, ariana grande God bless at always one color, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2Where it's like.
Speaker 3There's no delineation, and so we all know what could happen, Like we all know that this lovely woman, Olympia, what a beautiful name, the middle name of Matilda, could have just gotten her hair just like a different tone that like gave it some.
Speaker 2Dimension.
Speaker 3And then just like she needed some makeup, right, she needs some color on her face.
We all do like she could have.
You don't have to give her a spray tand my god, but you definitely have to give her like some bass and some eyebrows, brows, browse.
Speaker 1Blush, alash, not alash, just a mascara just like a yeah whoop.
And maybe it's their religion.
Maybe her religion is like no makeup for women.
But I was like, if you could just give me a little rouge.
They're Orthodox, they're Orthodox Christians.
Speaker 3I thought I thought that he said they a Greek Orthodore like they're they're you know, like Eastern Orthodox, and I they can make up.
Speaker 2Yeah, okay, great, thank you, that's what Natalie is.
Speaker 1Yes, oh okay, well then yeah give us a I give us a lip.
They gave us nothing.
So that's why, you.
Speaker 2Know, Baba Yaga was at the top of my mind.
Speaker 1Okay, Anyways, though, I Another thing that I noticed is that I saw a lot of like the way that I was conditioned to believe and think, because all I've ever wanted in life is just a roadmap and like a set of directions so that I can move forward and know exactly what I'm supposed to be doing.
And so several times in my life I have created such roadmaps for myself and been very staunch in my beliefs of.
Speaker 2What things and how they should be.
Speaker 1And listening to his mother talk as though they are on a pipeline straight to hell for not being married, She's like, I never wanted my son to be like promiscuously immoral and devilishly sexual, So I don't know how this is what this has turned out to be.
He has to tell his mother that you know, she's still married to Gino, and that the and then they they keep, not keep, but to me, the way that they talk about the fact that Matilda could technically be Gino's by legal kid is and they joke about it, and I'm like, I don't I wish you guys would stop like using that as like the punchline of like ha ha ha, he could he could take Matilda Matilda doesn't belong to Matt, And I'm like, no, Matilda does belong to Matt.
Like, I know that's Florida and Michigan have these laws, but I just in my mind, I can't imagine them enacting them and him being like, yes, I'm gonna take Matilda.
Why he even mention it as a funny possibility when you're when you're trying to tell this woman that you all have just sinned, and keep sinning.
Speaker 3You're right, especially because we know there's an easy out, which is that now we just take a paternity test and then we would know who the father is.
And that negates all Michigan law is saying is that it assumes, it assumes that Gina is the father because they're married.
So you all you have to do is prove he's not, and you prose he's not by a fucking praternity test.
Speaker 2It's very fucking easy.
So it's, yeah, it's a good point.
Speaker 1And it just doesn't it just doesn't make sense that they keep talking about it like ha ha ha.
Speaker 2So that was annoying to me.
Speaker 1Uh yeah.
So then the mother's like almost breaking down into tears and her her daughter has to like walk her back from the edge and be like, you can only love them.
And obviously God doesn't make mistakes.
And so if Matilda's here and she's so cute, Matilda Olympia, oh my god, that's me, you know what I mean.
I'm like, yeah, they strategically named that child Matt Olympia so that she could at least be like, I have a grandchild, even though this is a sinful child.
This child is born of sin, but I'm gonna love this sin this child born of sin, because this child is born of sin, all not only has my face but my name.
Speaker 3So she just like her Mom drives away listening to Diana Ross's love Child over and there again until it sits with her enough.
Speaker 1It was just it was such an interesting scene, and I could see why Matt was scared, but also I could if he had told Rebecca, I think Rebecca would have figured out him, or Rebecca could have put their head the sister could have put their heads together to come up with a way to like break it down to Mom.
And that's what Rebecca said.
She's like, it's weird that he didn't tell me or like that they had to find out this way.
And I was like, yeah, why didn't you bring in the sister earlier?
Speaker 2Yeah, well, Rebecca, why didn't you get your mom's hair done before this?
I mean, lots of things should have happened.
Okay, let's go back.
Listen, I make mistakes too, you know, you never know.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean long lasting ones that are on TV for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 2I'm sure.
Yeah, yeah, I've done.
Yeah, you should see my homemark movie reels.
Speaker 3Anyway, Okay, just so the next scene, we're back with Gino, which we're like, no.
Speaker 2Thanks, yeah, no thanks.
Speaker 1He goes into a fancy mcman's warehouse and this At first I thought the pants that he was doing mc hammer dancing in was something that he had picked out from the racks and put on.
But those were his, in fact own pants that he wore there, Right.
Speaker 3Why don't they just be like, take off those fucking pants, well we're gonna put on.
We can't even because it's like, yeah, when you go to those places, they are a little snooty, and so I can't imagine they wouldn't be like, you know, honestly, to get a good accurate representation of the top half of you, we're gonna have to just take off those pants.
I just don't fit you.
They don't sit where they're gonna sit.
It wouldn't even sitting where a normal one was.
So it's like it doesn't make sense that they let him come on or leave that on.
Speaker 2I mean, at.
Speaker 3First he's like, okay, let's give you my first choice.
It's this kind of like camel beige with like this textured thing they tried to like fit with those pants.
I could have told you that's not like a gino thing.
He looked at it and he was like, absolutely not.
I mean, you have to have like charisma to pull that off.
Like I he saw what walked into that store.
That was a bad move.
I think, just like on his part, as like someone who like immediately reads the customer and can be like, I know what this person's gonna feel comfortable in and will equate a sale and not me wasting my time, unless he's doing one of those weird psychological things where you like show someone something ugly, show something ugly, and then show them something great and then they're like, oh my god, that great thing.
I must get it because this is my only option.
Everything else is ugly.
You're shaking your head, as if you did this before.
Speaker 1Yeah, So I didn't do this, but somebody did that to me.
When I was looking at apartments.
They showed me a too small apartment.
Then they showed me a too big apartment or something.
They did too big first.
Speaker 2Goldilocks, yeah, goldilocks yeah, And.
Speaker 1So they did that and then and then I was like, h I see what you did there, because I used to be in sales as well, and we laughed about it.
But in the in this, in sales, I would just bring people things that I knew.
I would bring the higher price thing two as an option for them to possibly splurge on, and then it did force them to buy the median thing or the thing that was like a little cheaper, or the thing with a leather a rubber sole instead of a leather soul, or like things like that in order to kind of get that to happen.
So but it was just interesting, and I was like, why don't you just bring him some pants that look like the ones he walked in with, except for in a more modern fit, like yep, that's yeah, maybe he'll buy three of them.
But the kischer is that he went there.
Speaker 2I mean, that's what I would do.
Speaker 1He went there with like three Hawaiian shirts that needed new buttons and was like, can you fix each for me?
It's like, no, sorry, you had gonna have to leave.
We don't do this material in this shop.
Go to the thrift store and get them and fix that shit for you.
Speaker 2I know.
Speaker 3It's like, I love you know I would.
He's shops obviously at Salvation Army, and like, that's totally fine.
I wish that he almost could get like a stylist.
Speaker 2I could shop with.
Speaker 3Him at vintage places and teach him what to look for and actually buy, you know, like because of the cutter or whatever, so that he could, you know, have I guess the best of both worlds, because I don't want to like just be like this man, you know, picks the worst of the worst.
And it's not he picks the worst of the worst that his style is so bad so wherever he is will be the worst the worst.
But you know, I like the idea of like sustainable fashion, so it's not that I I want to just clarify something.
I don't like Salvation Army.
But he also was like, I'm taking up a notch.
I want to like George Clooney or Richard Gear.
Speaker 1I mean those are your references.
Yeah, I mean, okay, I can see you doing George Clooney because okay maybe, but Richard.
Speaker 3Gear pretty woman he wants to think about.
Yeah, I know, pretty Woman.
Speaker 1That's a long ass time ago, Chris, Though you cannot reference Richard Gear.
You cannot reference this man.
Yeah, you cannot reference him anymore.
Speaker 2He doesn't want a sugar baby though.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's crazy, but he's picking two men who notori.
Okay, well, George Clean redeemed himself with this.
Speaker 2So crazy.
Speaker 1He's like, I can't deny that I like white hips, Nippi and booty, and I'm like, it's more than that, you know, you like them from a specific place where they have less than you and they can be grateful for the little you offer them.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Also, for so long he'd be like, I like brown long hair, like I thought he you know, I guess he has a whole physic human Yeah, he has a whole Latina type yeah or whatever.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 1He's just like, yeah, I just I guess I need to move away from that.
It's like, no, you need to move away from wanting to control people with money.
You need to move away with like you're not listening to your partner when they tell you what the things that they need, Like you need to move away from.
Speaker 2A lot of shit.
Okay.
Speaker 1So we get back to Jasmine and Matt and this is after the mom leaves and they've you know, told her all the rotted secrets and he takes her out.
Speaker 2I guess Matilda's with a producer asleep.
Speaker 1So he takes her outside in the back where there's like a boat and I love that they're on like some kind of doc.
And he produces a string and asks her to marry him, and she's like, I don't know, ma, I'm a scared and he's like, damn if I can't get her to marry with a string.
And she married to Gino And I'm like, you're still comparing yourself to Gino.
This is very this is a very sad situation, Matt, for you don't compare yourself to Gino Gino, Like it's weird, but also like, yeah, why would she marry you?
Speaker 2Because she has no one else in America?
She wants to stay in America.
She doesn't have a place to live, and I mean I don't I mean.
Speaker 1Like I just say, I'm most like, I'm like, she's just been through a lot.
I just don't understand why.
Speaker 3Why she chose I read the moment of it.
She's been married already so many times.
You have a lot more grace now.
That's why I'm like, yeah, I know, I can I think.
Speaker 1But yeah, but like I guess, I just think like, if she's she's had all of that, maybe it is time.
Speaker 2For her to slow down and make better choices.
Yeah.
Speaker 1Like to be mad at her for breaking her pattern is weird to me.
So anyways, the string was like, he's like, oh.
Speaker 2He must not think she's part of the pattern.
Speaker 3He must think that he's the disrupt disruptor and that he's upset she hasn't recognized that.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, he's not the disruptor.
M Well, anyways, that's the end of the episode.
No, yeah, great, we did it.
We did it.
Speaker 2We did do it.
How exciting for us.
We're more coming.
Speaker 1Is this the last episode and then they're going to do a bunch of tell alls?
No?
Speaker 2I think we No, I think we have one more episode.
Speaker 1Okay, I think that we have more.
Speaker 2I think that we have I know.
Speaker 1Matt said episode that this was the last one of the and I was like, wait, what I feel like if if the last episode is like the we could beat, it's four tell alls, meaning it's four partell all.
Speaker 2It was like, because I know November thirtieth, obviously, I think it's the last one.
Speaker 1Is the last one?
Yeah, so if this was the last episode, then we are gonna have a four part Tello, which is gonna be hell.
Speaker 2It's gonna be hell.
Speaker 1I have not I hope we have one more.
Speaker 3Week, which is interesting because the streets obviously, as we've brought up as saying that, you know, Tiger, Lily and ad none have been gone great so have been literally cut out.
So I would think it would be less of a tell all because you had less footage, and also maybe it'd be confusing to like keep up what actually is happening in scenes if you had to cut out the whole last people.
Speaker 2I mean, I have no idea how they're gonna deal with that.
I mean, who knows.
Speaker 3But yeah, this was a great episode.
Thank you so much for listening.
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