
·S5 E33
2008: Step Brothers / Most Annoying Siblings Draft
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I'm brad, no Pete, and I'm giff.
Wow, that was good gift seamless.
Speaker 2Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1You took over for two.
So Pete, he's not with us, is he?
Speaker 3No?
Speaker 4He is a traveling man.
Speaker 1Yeah, either he's either he's out of a job or he's traveling with a job and can't work us in here.
But we'll do okay without him.
Speaker 2We'll get by somehow.
Pete is a is the cog that holds together the gears of this podcast, but we'll try to make it work.
Speaker 1I was gonna say he is the wild card of this podcast because you just really never know what's going on there.
Speaker 4Right, Yep, that's fair.
Speaker 1But he will still get our episode ready to put out there for the for the fans.
Yes, in a week or so.
Speaker 2Pete's always good at putting out.
Speaker 1Yes, that's what he's always been known for.
All right, Well, we did the Dark Knight last week.
Now we're back to kind of something we like a little, you know more often on the show or the comedies.
Yes, and we've got a very very well known and I think beloved comedy.
Although you know, when you look at some of the stats, I don't know's it's got this more of a cult status.
I guess, well, we'll get into it.
Speaker 4Yep.
Speaker 1So Gifford picked Step Brothers much like I picked The Dark Knight.
It was a mutual decision.
Jefford, are you are you a major fan of this movie before you watched it this time?
Let's just say, you know, going into this, I.
Speaker 4Was very very very late to this party.
So this was the you know.
And the weird thing is.
Speaker 2Like I I, you know, there's so many things that I love Ferrell in, and John c Riley is absolutely wonderful in just about anything I've ever seen him in.
But again, like in two thousand and eight, I wasn't going to a lot of movies, and so this one just kind of slipped by, and I really didn't get into it all that much.
It's not but you know, as I've watched it in subsequent years, it's one that I have grown to appreciate.
I mean, I'm shaking my head while I'm watching it again last night just at some of the stupidity of it.
But at the same time, God, there's so many funny, funny things in this and I can see why it had as such a good cult following.
It's it's a really fun movie.
Speaker 1And you picked it not because you love it, but because we decided that we hear people talk about it so much that it is like you gotta do it.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1So you know, personally, I would have picked for getting Sarah Marshall over this movie if we were picking our favorite comedy of the year.
But I mean, I have no problem doing this movie because I know that people talk about it all the time.
Speaker 4Right, and I probably would have went maybe Iron Man.
Speaker 2But again I was talking about comedies, but right, But that's why I say, like, this is more your favorite movie of the year.
Yeah, yeah, of one that I would have picked because Dark Knight is just so phenomenal and you know, and then then there's also the idea all you're covered to superhero movies in the same year, like that's not you know, let's cover a little more ground.
So just just a fun, dumb cut your brain off and enjoy.
Speaker 1Definitely, Yes, So do you remember when you did first see it or any of your memories of this movie before I go.
Speaker 4No, I mean I would have watched it.
Speaker 2I think I caught parts of it on you know, regular broadcast television, probably like TNT or TVs one time, and then since then, I've watched it, you know a few times on streaming.
This time, I think I've found it for free on Pluto, so I watched about a half an hour worth of ads along with it because I don't want to.
I think I have paramount right now through my kidwork.
I think that's what it's on for free because I didn't pay for it.
Speaker 1But is po Yeah, yeah, all right, Well, I don't remember when I saw it first either.
I I watched it.
I'm pretty sure by myself, and I mean I don't know if it would have been on a probably on a Netflix DVD maybe.
Well, Kim probably watched it with me, because this is back, we would have got DVDs all the time.
So my guess is we got it through there.
I did not see it in the movie theater or anything.
I do like this movie a lot.
There are so many memorable quotes.
I mean, that's what people like.
They quoted all the time, Like you said, I love John c Riley.
So one year before this, Walk Hard came out, which we have an episode on, which is one of my just all time favorite comedies, which I hadn't I might have seen this before I even saw walk Hard, because I didn't see that at first either, But that one hit me immediately when I saw it, whereas this one it was a slower build.
I think the problem is you mentioned Will Ferrell, and I think I was just getting farrelled out at this time, so it wasn't like I was excited to go see it.
So in the same year, Semi Pro came out, which I just I thought that was just I watched.
I tried to watch it once and it just it seemed hideous.
Blades of Glory came out before this, which yeah, there's some funny stuff, but it's like, okay, another one of those.
And then we did Talladega Knights, which after some time passing doing it for our show, like a year ago, I did find it really funny, like it's pretty good, but at that time I wasn't a big fan of it.
Now, he did put out Stranger Than two years before this, which was his kind of dramatic movie, which I thought was just incredible and still love to this day.
And he did Curious George, which I thought was kind of cute, you know that I went to that with my kid and it was nice to see it was something different than these dumb sports movies.
But he's like, that's a lot of movies in like three years, and some of them really sucked.
Speaker 2So that bankable and you're that hot, like do it, man, Like get make the movies, get the money, throw throw whatever you can at the wall.
And you know, in a case like this, like you know, Anchorman was huge, Talladega Knights did really well.
This one did did did good.
I mean on a sixty five million dollars budget in one hundred and twenty eight.
Yeah, I mean that's that's still a good return on investment on that.
Speaker 4But I think this.
Speaker 2One just took a little longer overall to build that following.
Speaker 1Yeah, and like you said, parts of this movie are just so ridiculous.
We've got some categories on that coming, and that's kind of what keeps it from like a top shelf comedy to me.
Like I like it a lot, Like if it's on I can watch it all the time.
Like there's enough in there that makes me laugh, and it's grown on me and I've gotten to like it more and more over the years.
But I you know, I don't put it in the same category well like walk hard, which I means speaking of ridiculous, but like that, it's a Bible, but it's a biopic.
It's a fake.
It's supposed to be stupid and everything, and I don't know, I just I don't get it, Like why are these guys like this?
And are the adults or are the children?
And they just you know, it's just it doesn't always add up, but it still makes you laugh.
And there's a lot of great actors in this movie, so that's part of what makes it good too.
Speaker 2I think it's a little bit of escapism for dudes, right, Like I mean, this is a forty year old and a thirty nine year old.
You know, at that point in your life, you know, you're you most of us are.
Speaker 4You know, in a career.
Speaker 2Maybe you got a family and kids, and you know you're kind of set as far as what you're trying to go for.
But you know some of us made pine for those easier times, and you know, sitting on the couch watching cops in your underwear and you know, just being stupid, you know, And I think that's a little bit of what this offers the male viewer anyway.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's definitely escape.
Yeah, all right, So you said the budget made a lot of money.
Came out July twenty fifth, two thousand and eight.
So what I was surprised by not that it got fifty four percent from critics on Rotten Tomatoes, because I wouldn't expect it to be all that high, but only sixty nine by the audience, which the way I hear people talk about this movie like they talk about this movie like it is the best comedy ever, like it's their favorite comedy, and I hear that all the time.
And so I was shocked when I saw that it was only sixty nine percent, because that seems not to add up to what I hear out there in the world.
Speaker 2Well, it's that that's where you know, it's it's a rigorous sixty nine if you will.
You know, they they're very full throated in their in their.
Speaker 1I'm always up for a rigorous sixteeds.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, in a full thrown at sixty nine percent, it is, you know.
So yeah, I think I think that it also lends itself to the I don't know, the baser qualities.
So I think people who really love it are like, yeah.
Speaker 4This is this is the ship Man.
Speaker 1But it's got enough haters.
I guess that right too stupid.
Speaker 2Speaking of the haters, Ebert was one of them, with one and a half out of four stars.
Speaker 1And that was my next bullet point right there.
Speaker 2He's he mentioned that it was mean.
He doesn't understand why it has to be so mean, and he kind of felt dirty coming out of it, you know, so that that was one of the reasons he wasn't quite as high on it.
Speaker 1Well.
Not a hater is Joaquin Phoenix, who reportedly says it's the movie he's seen more than any other.
Speaker 4So which just me I I love.
Speaker 2I love to hear it because I think a Joaquin Phoenix and I think, yeah, I mean, he's obviously out there, but I mean he's such a great actor, right, I Mean, that's what you think when you think of Jaquein in Phoenix.
Speaker 1But he's guys like that you need to escape too, I mean, and that's that's the fun of it, Like he, you know, deep down is just a kind of a weirdo and loves the escapism if you will of this movie.
I'm trying to think if he never did any movies with either of these guys, has he or at least like a Will Ferrell movie.
He's never been.
I'm trying to think of what he's done.
It's kind of maybe more funny.
He's done more quirky movies than I would say, like comedies.
Yep, right, yeah, you can do a quirky movie.
He's good at those.
Speaker 2But we've got director Adam McKay teaming up again with with Ferrell.
Yeah he was.
Speaker 4He was on.
Speaker 2SNL and then uh moved on to the movies and he's directed Farrell in Anchorman, Talladaked Nights and the other guys.
So these two team up and it's usually a pretty good, pretty good combo.
Speaker 1When he went on, I think, didn't he write and maybe direct, but at least like The Big Short, like he's done some of the more Yep, he's not.
He's stepped out of the realm a little bit as he's become more I'm sure powerful in the.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think he did The Big Short and then he was also uh Netflix movie, Don't Look Up the Oppressing movies I've ever seen, because it was so close to unfortunately, what's happening in the world, you.
Speaker 1Know, And that's when people hated.
I thought that movie was great, not because man I agreed it was.
People said, oh, it's so unrealistic.
I'm like, no, it's not.
Oh my god, this is everything and this is true.
Like so I disagree with that, but.
Speaker 2It's it's the same.
Is like idiocrisy.
If you watch that movie and it's supposed to be stupid and funny, but you know, when you really look at it, it's like, oh God, this is really what's this is where we're at.
So yeah, I mean, and Judd Apatow is a producer, so you know, he's obviously got a laundry list of great comedies during this time.
Speaker 1Also popular from this movie, the Boats and Hose video that they made has hit over one million hits on YouTube.
Yes, and to leave its mark for a while at least.
I don't know if it'll go on forever.
But the Catalina wine mixer, the fucking Catalina wine mixer.
It did not exist before this movie began, but it has since been created and it's a thing now.
Speaker 2So yes, because of this movie, the Catalina Wine mixer has been forced into a reality.
A couple other crossovers I wanted to talk about here with McKay and Ferrell.
We got obviously Riley and Ferrell in this.
They had just done Talladega Knights and they were also letting Homes and Watson together.
Speaker 1And then we never also Man that looked bad and it was horrible.
Speaker 2I have not either.
And then of course we have Steam Virgin, who played his step mom in Elf, also plays his mom, Ferrell's mom in this, despite only having a fourteen year age difference.
Speaker 1That totally went over my head that yeah, she is.
McKay also, I think is the either producer or creator of the Winning Time show on HBO, isn't he?
And that the Lakers Show?
And there there was a little I think you're right, I think controversy there because from what I remember reading is that Will Ferrell really wanted the Jerry Buss part and John Ose Riley got it instead.
And I don't know if it led to a thing between them all, but I do know that I read that, you know, Riley got the part, and he should have because he was amazing and he fitted but Will Ferrell really wanted it as well, and so there might have been a little bit of a fracture of some sort there between these guys that have done so much together.
Speaker 2Right, Yeah, And that makes sense because I mean Farrell obviously huge sports fan, right.
I mean you see him on the glass at King's games, He's at Laker games, he's at Clippers.
Speaker 4You know, he's all about sports.
Speaker 2So if he had an opportunity to be in that Winning Time show, and it was great.
Speaker 4I loved the show.
Speaker 2I watched it.
Speaker 1I wanted to.
I thought I would, I I did not.
I thought.
I watched one season and I thought I got through it, but it was it built up.
It got so close to being great for me, but it just it just never did and it just never went where I wanted it to.
And then I never watched the second season when it came out.
Speaker 2So what I liked was Riley was great throughout the whole thing.
Yeah, he was great, of course he was the biggest complaint I would have about it is that they didn't it almost It was almost like the writers and producers of it were Celtics fans, because they would show the Lakers' downfalls during this time and like skip over them winning championships for the most part, Like I think the second season started with the team rushing into the locker room after winning another championship.
But it's like, well, no, no, no, let's let's show that.
Let's show the good stuff.
Speaker 1You know, that's not what sells.
You need the controversy.
Speaker 2But they had plenty of controversy.
They showed them losing, Like, let's show them winning.
Let's see know it's the name of the show is winning time.
How about we show the times that they win.
Speaker 1So we're not talking about that show tonight, but if you want to watch it, it's an HBO show.
The next segment of our show is sponsored by Google Gemini, who writes our AI summaries.
Now is our new thing?
Or did you have more fun facts?
First?
Speaker 4Do you have a couple more fun facts?
Speaker 1Shoot, now we're not going to get that sponsorship.
Speaker 4Well we'll We'll plug it twice.
Speaker 2So we got Ahoglo's pizza car light in uh in uh Brennan and Dale's bedroom and of course that's from Talladega Knights when Ricky Bobby wasn't driving anymore and he had to be a pizza delivery guy.
Speaker 1Oh, I don't remember that either.
Speaker 2The last thing I got here, well, I got two more, the role of Derek.
There were auditions by John Hamm, Thomas Lennon, and Dak Sheppard, and I think all three of them, I mean, don't get me wrong, I love what do we got in there for Adam Scott.
Adam Scott is awesome in the role, but all three of them would have been.
Those other guys would have been great too, I mean, can you imagine.
I mean Thomas Lennon, I mean he is, He's smarty already, which I think would have been perfect for the role.
Uh.
And the last thing is there was some ad libbing of lines in this in this movie, and one of the scenes is the first talk dirty scene between Catherine Hahn and John c Riley outside of the house there and Han said that the line where she talks about wanting to shove him Dale into her vagina that came from the darkest recesses of a recovering Catholic is how she put that.
All Right, yeah, all right, that's what I got for fun facts in this one.
Speaker 1Okay, Well, our new segment is we try to see if AI really works and so Google Gemini, we ask it to write a one paragraph summary just so people if they're not familiar with the movie or if they've forgotten parts, can catch up with us.
So let's see how Google Gemini did this time.
Step Brothers is a comedy film about Brennan Huff, a thirty nine year old sporadically employed man living with his divorced mother Nancy, and Dale Doback, a forty year old terminally unemployed man living with his widowed father Robert.
When Nancy and Robert meet, fall in love and get married, Brennan and Dale are forced to live together as stepbrothers.
Initially despising each other after their childish rivalry threatens to tear their parents marriage apart.
The two man children eventually bond over their shared immaturity and interests, and they team up to launch their own entertainment company, Prestige Worldwide.
Though their antics cause their parents to divorce, Brennan and Dale are eventually forced to grow up, find jobs, and orchestrate a plan to reunite their parents at the prestigious Catalina Wine Mixer, ultimately leading to a rekindled romance for Robert and Nancy and success for the now mature yet still eccentric step brothers.
That's really good.
Speaker 4That's not too bad.
Speaker 1The robots are going to take over.
Unfortunately, every time they bring up Prestige Worldwide, it makes me think of Entertainment seven to twenty from Parks and rec and John Ralphieo and Tom have Herford.
Okay, well, I mentioned earlier, this has a great cast.
We've already mentioned some of them.
We've got Will Ferrell and John c Riley, Brennan and Dale.
They hate each other at first, We've already mentioned them.
Anything to add about those guys here, Uh No, not really.
Speaker 2I mean I love I love their uh the wardrobe that that they wear throughout the movie.
Speaker 1I love.
Speaker 2I want to know what Dale's wristband collection looks like.
I don't know why he's always wearing, you know, like sweat wristbands, but it just adds for me, it adds a little something to it.
Speaker 1Think's just such a great team because they size and look of them.
I love it how Will Ferrell constantly calls him like curly headed and stuff when he's got the same hair.
Like right, yeah, so all right, you mentioned Mary Stein.
Virgin Is Nancy Brennan's mom as she was in elf and not real mom of course an elf well so a little bit different.
But she is just wonderful, you know, married to Ted Danson, she's in uh occasionally pops up in Curby Enthusiasm.
She's she's just awesome.
And I mean for an older lady, older than us, she's always been a real good looking woman.
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 2I have a note here that she could be my step mom any day, if you.
Speaker 1Will, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2Okay, thank you, yes.
Speaker 1But then a highlight in this movie is Robert Dale's dad is Richard Jenkins.
And this guy has won an Oscar or I forget was he one or just nominated?
He's been nominated for two Oscars.
I believe he won.
Speaker 2One, nominated nominated for two.
Speaker 1Okay, and you know you think of him as serious, although I look back he's done more comedies than I remember.
But like his straight man in this and the way he hand handle these kids and everything, which is you totally feel because who wouldn't I mean, in real life, who wouldn't act that way?
Yeah, he's just fantastic.
He's a great actor, and he's great at this role here.
And pulling off the foil.
Speaker 2And you you know, he comes in as you know, just the straight guy.
But some of the best parts of the movie is watching his frustration boil over to where he just can't hold it in anymore and he has to exnores himself.
Speaker 4And it's not.
Speaker 2Always constructed either, because he's dealing with these infantile men and it's just great to see him just lose it, you know, on how many times during the movie.
Speaker 1And he is a very straight man because the very first thing we see is him presenting at a conference and bringing up Mary stein Burgin's breast in front of the entire crowd because he's so smitten by her in the crowd.
Speaker 4Yes, all right.
Speaker 1You mentioned Adam Scott in here as Derek.
You know, you think of him like how much he's in now, But at this time, you know, maybe he wasn't in quite as many things, and he wasn't quite the house old namey is.
But man is he He pulls off the dick role magnificently and he just looks his hair is just horrible in this movie.
He just looks like a tool.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1Yeah, Well, but so he went on to be in Parks and Wrecks like two years later, also a big part of Parks and rec not a full time cast member, but Katherine Hahn, the always wonderful, awesome Catherine Han is his wife Alice, and her role in this movie is just I mean, it's just fantastic because she she doesn't like Derek, she's not doesn't want to be married to Derek, but yet she is.
And she turns to chile Dale and it's just she's she can pull off so much as a comedian, but like she gets to do a lot in this movie.
She's great.
Speaker 2Catherine Hahn, to me, I always think of her as an SNL cast member, Like she seems like she would be, like you said, she can do so much, Like to me, she could be she'd be perfect as a sketch artist where you just go from to thing.
Speaker 1Kind of like that where she just pops up on shows all the time like Parks and rec And she's not always maybe the main person, but she'll pop up in things and just steal the scene and just be great.
Speaker 2It's amazing.
Speaker 1Yeah, this is a long time before the show came out, but Andrea Savage is in this movie as a therapist and she was in the show on Netflix a few years ago called I'm Sorry, which I believe your wife watched.
Speaker 2Yes, did you watch it?
Speaker 4No?
Speaker 2I have never seen it, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1Oh, if you want to watch just a Hidden Gem, my wife and I watched I'm Sorry.
I don't know if it's still on Netflix or not, but this woman is hilarious and that show is one of the It's a short one kind of kind of like I brought up the in between Hers two weeks ago.
There's not that many episodes, it's only two seasons, but it is laugh out loud great and people pop up like Jason Manzukas and all those just tons of funny people just show up all over on the show.
Speaker 2Well, I'll check it out.
I'm writing it down.
Speaker 1But she gets to play like the one kind of straight person, like real like like looks like she understands things are wrong, although then you're not sure.
Speaker 2So yeah, right at the end, there a little strange.
Speaker 1A couple more people pop up in Small Rosie have Ken Jong as a job interviewer of these guys when they're trying to get a job.
You have Roble in a patented rob Riggle type role, just a loud mouthed asshole co worker of Derek.
Speaker 4Yep, is he seeing Powe?
Speaker 2Is he seeing Powe?
Speaker 1You got Horatio Sands, the band leader of Uptown Girl eighties Billy Joel cover band Yo another throwback to Elf.
In several of our episodes, he brought up Matt Walsh tons of times.
He's the heckler of Billy Joel.
Speaker 2Everything was going fine at the Catala wine mixer until Matt Walls shows up, that's right.
Speaker 1And then a guy that I totally forgot is in this but in the sporting goods store, the the employee there that's kind of working with these guys is Seth Rogen and I completely forgot he had part this movie.
Speaker 2I did too, yep.
Speaker 1So that I think is all I have.
Do you have other people that you wrote down?
Speaker 2Nobody of real note that jumped off the screen at me.
Speaker 1No, But that's a pretty damn good murderer's row of a cast right there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Of comedians, I mean these guys are and women I mean Katherine Han Andrea Savage or two of the funniest women there are out there.
Speaker 4Right.
Speaker 1Okay, we're gonna get into our favorite scenes and then a couple other extra categories this time, as well as our favorite lines as we always do.
Yeah, not my favorite scene, but I do want to point out the two weeks ago I drafted Vampire Weekend in our music draft, and this movie starts out with the song Apunk is the overlaying music right at the beginning, the catchy fun song that you probably know but didn't even realize who it was.
It's awesome.
So there's that.
Speaker 2Yeah, I love the just the opening scene with the you know, you got Brennan eating nachos and working one down on the living room couch as his mom goes off to work.
So yes, that was interesting.
Speaker 1So what would be one of your favorite scenes?
Give?
Speaker 2Well, I think one of one of my favorite scenes.
A lot of the scenes are tend to be a little shorter, but the scene where Brennan and Dale finally have it out on the front lawn and they get into a fight where one has a bat, one has a bicycle's yelling rape and you've got you've got Nancy standing there with the garden hose trying to hose them off and cool them down.
And then it ends with the simultaneous bat and golf club to the head, which knocks them out.
Speaker 1So where we're gonna throw out quotes as we go to then I have two quotes from that scene that I have down actually, uh Mary Steinberg, and the mom is so upset she just yells out, what the fucking fuck?
Yes, But then you brought up that he's yelling rape and it's Dale.
I think that says, I am so not a raper.
That is hilarious.
Well, I'll go kind of follow up on that one.
So they make up, but then things go bad again.
And one of my favorite scenes is where Brennan goes to play on the drums, which you know he's not supposed to.
So there's the first scene where he does it where they put actually puts his balls in the drum.
This is later, but Dale goes in there and grabs his symbol and just cocks him on the head with a symbol.
I laughed out loud so hard at that.
And then he thinks he's dead, so he wraps him up and tries to bury him in the back heart.
Speaker 2What does he saying, He drags him out, something about this is just like some show or whatever.
Speaker 4He keeps repeated it over and over.
Speaker 1I don't remember that, but he's trying to bury him, and then of course Brennan wakes up and hits him with a shovel and instead buries Dale.
I mean time as he's burying him.
Over the top scenes in this movie, and that's one but one of the good ones, Like that one I laughed so hard at.
It's like perfect because it's it's crazy, but it's like just right, I think.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I love it.
I got like the first the first time they meet, like you can just feel like this coming that, you know, this tension rising, and I just love how I think.
Speaker 3Uh.
Speaker 2Dale says that that Brennan needs to call him Dragon, and yeah, Brennan fires right back with you have to call me Nighthawk.
And it's just all this one upsman between them of calling each other names, you know.
I love also like the scene where right before they get into the big fight, you know, Brennan has gone and played on Dale's drum set and Dale comes home and Brennan is laying on the couch and Dale goes, why are you so sweaty?
Speaker 1I was watching.
Speaker 2Cops And that makes sense to Dale.
Dale understands I can be sweaty from just watching cops.
I think that's one of the most underrated lines in this whole movie because that, you know, strikes a chord that's good.
Speaker 1So Derek is Brennan's brother, younger brother, and he's a total asshole to him, and so that actually is what brings these two together.
So of course they're not animies through the whole movie.
They become best friends, which is one of the best lines.
When did we just become best friends?
Yep?
I mean that's maybe the most famous line in the movie for sure.
But so that brings him together, and then I love when they like try to actively work against him.
It is because he's trying to sell a house and one of them is mowing the lawn with a Nazi outfit on a neighbor with a KKK hood on.
I mean, that's actually pretty smart of those guys and shows that they have a little bit of a resourcefulness to them.
Speaker 2You're gonna love the neighborhood everybody recycles like while he's wearing a clansman hood.
Speaker 4It's just so wonderful.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1But then after the whole part where I brought up that they almost bury each other alive, they do split up to go on their own.
And this is one of my favorite scenes too, because it's it's a little more serious but it's still you know, funny.
But Dale's paying his bills but he's wearing a Chewbacca mask.
You see Brennan at Costco, and how happy he is when he comes out with the soilet paper.
Dale is reading and going to sleep early.
It's it's a montage.
It's a ontage of how they're trying to become grown ups, and it's actually it's funny, but it's also like it's the kind of scene I like because it's a little more serious, but it has to move the plot along and it's important to that.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm gonna back up just a little bit.
This is when they're having Derek's boat.
Speaker 1We can go any order we want here because this movie is just insane anyway.
Speaker 2It's insane when we're having Derek's birthday party, and this is where we have the presentation of Prestige worldwide and they they played the video and it's you know, them singing boats and hose on on Robert's boat, and I just love how it starts dawning on Robert, like, wait a minute, these numb nuts are on my boat who's driving the boat?
And then they keep it.
Speaker 1In the video the crash, the crash.
Maybe edit that out.
Speaker 2It's just they're so stupid.
But also, is this not also where Dale has sex with Derek's wife in the bathroom, so like sticking up up against the sink, she just like mounts him.
Speaker 1No, that's earlier, is it.
It's a different one where I think that's the one earlier where Robert is just so smitten by Derek the first time and he's just like a giddy little boy because he thinks he's so impressive.
This is another one later, I think because I'm looking at my quotes here.
But my favorite, one of my favorite lines is when he when they show the video and the boat crashes, and then they act like so are you gonna invest or not?
And they're like still pushing it and he's like, you wreck my fucking boat, you goon right, So that's the dad talking, and I just love the use of goon there is perfect.
Speaker 2Yeah, and they're even yeah, they're pressing it when he gets home, like they're screaming at him like are you not gonna you know, we need ten thousand whatever?
Speaker 1Yeah, if they want to throw in the first time they have sex in the bathroom.
That's great too, because Dale goes, it's so.
Speaker 4Slippery, it's so slippery.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2Then she's sitting there.
Speaker 1They're standing up yet she's like, you know, and she's like moving and she's like in a bathroom a at like dinner, and she's like, this is just the way I imagined it.
Speaker 2She's hiding out in the in the toilet and Dale's in there, and then she she turns around and goes and uses the urinal afterwards like throws her wag in the corner.
It's so yeah, it's yeah.
I like the the montage when they finally do become best friends and all the stuff that they're doing, and then.
Speaker 1To me, there's so much more room for activities.
Speaker 2To me, the best gig in the whole movie is when they finally get the bunk beds put together with what hockey sticks and a random board and whatever, and and Will Ferrell's on the bottom bunk and John c Riley jumps up on the top and immediately the thing just collapses.
Speaker 4On top of him.
Speaker 1That is maybe the best gag.
I agree, so great.
Speaker 2I mean, there's no like it's creaking and teetering a little bit.
I mean it's as soon as his body hits the top of that bed, it's just wowd as it should, right.
Speaker 1And that's another one of those fairly famous lines.
It would give us so much extra room for activities.
Speaker 2For activities.
Speaker 1Oh, I'm just so excited.
Yeah, I love that.
I love it when it falls on.
We got to talk about the Catalina wine mixer a little bit too.
Do you have some other ones before that?
Speaker 2I've got the the job interview day, so, you know, they Dale says, hey, Dad, you know I don't have any nice clothes.
He's like, yep, go in my closet.
Both of you put on, you know, whatever you need.
And they both find tuxes.
First off, these two ship heads decide that they're gonna wear tuxes.
Speaker 1And then they meet right because he thinks it's funny at first, He's like, yeah, your style.
I'm gonna hire you guys because I like your style.
You're funny.
Speaker 2So they show up to do these in tandem, these these interviews together, and of course the first one is with Pam.
Speaker 4Which might be the thing.
Speaker 2Courty and I say the most back and forth to each other is I'm sorry, did you say Pam or Pam?
Speaker 1My god, that's so dumb.
Speaker 2And the fact that she's interviewing Brennan and Dale is sitting directly behind him and you don't really see him at first, and then he you know, tilts his head to the side and starts getting into you know, the interview and trying to figure out if it is Pan or if it's Pam is outstanding.
And then they go to another one and they start interviewing the interviewer and ask how much money makes and what I love here is let me ask you a question, Oprah, Barbara Walters and your wife fuck Mary kill.
Speaker 1Just like I don't remember that line at all.
Speaker 2Oh, that's that's the middle guy, the interviewer.
And then they go to the sporting goods store with Seth Rogen and they've got the job.
They've nailed it.
And then John c Riley comes out with the longest awkward part in his facial exsions.
And this this hearkens back for me to the burp from Elf when they're when they're sitting at the table and he downs all the coke and then burk's right in the kid's face.
And then asked, did you hear that?
Speaker 1And dear, when it's not a real elf sitting.
Speaker 2There correct and then you know the fact that you know.
Seth Rogan's like, did you just fart?
And he's like, I don't know.
And then he tried, he tried to explain it away at home.
He thought it was gonna be silent.
He kicks him out because it smells so bad and he can taste it in his mouth, taste it.
Speaker 4Oh my god.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1All right.
So at the Catalina wine mixer, you've got the Horatio Sans Billy Joel eighties cover band.
They only play eighties Joel and there's this Christina Brickley look alike who just dances around like she does.
But he freaks out, which almost ruins it.
And this is their big moment.
And I do like like the movie.
A lot of these movies sometimes they have terrible endings or they just go so far.
But Brendan gets up and sings and Dale's playing to get the drums and it actually touches everyone, and it's a really touching ending.
Actually it's funny and touching at the same time.
And when Derek and Brennan try to hug and Derek physically doesn't got a hug because he's such a horrible person.
It's like, it's funny and it's well done, and you love to see the parents who are so proud again and even even Robert comes around.
It's good.
And actually I also love when they first meet because they haven't talked for a long time and so when they first meet they have like a real adult conversation and it's so ridiculous and and and the mom and the dad are just like, oh my god, what happened to these two?
And they don't like it because they want them to be, you know, who they are.
So they're even like conflicted about what's going on.
Speaker 2Well and what did Dale?
Dale had to sell something to get his car insurance?
Brennan asked him, do you still have oh, night vision goggles nor insurance?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Speaker 2Yeah, But now they're they're responsible people, right, like they're you know, they both got jobs.
They're responsible, they're good at their jobs.
Yeah, pretty quick turnaround there from being just complete and utter useless human beings.
Speaker 1And in one of those montages to it, it is actually you find out it's more a kind of a Christmas movie too.
Yeah, we have We have some Christmas scenes towards the end there, which is nice.
Yeah.
But then after they get home and everybody's happy again, they get they find out that they're the boat, the one I presumably that they wrecked, has been put into a tree as a tree house.
So that these guys are gonna work, they're gonna be real adults, but they're also still gonna be able to have their idiocracy.
Yeah, they have yep, hustlers.
Speaker 5Uh.
Speaker 2I've got a few other lines that I would like to go through because again, these scenes, they're not necessarily like well thought out scenes, but there's these lines that are in there.
Speaker 1Before the before other extra categories here.
Speaker 2So I like the uh, the part before Brennan and Nancy move in and Dale's trying to have a heart to heart with his dad and he doesn't think that, you know, they necessarily need to move in, and he.
Speaker 4Says, we're men willing to shit with the door open.
Speaker 2We talked about pussy we go riverboat gambling, and Robert comes back with, we've literally never done that ever.
Well, that's right.
Speaker 1Where So he's also talking about how the new mom might you know, be interested in him, and he says, what if she sees this luscious v of hair growing from my chest pubes down to my ball throw and she says, I've had the old bull and now I want the young Calf.
I had to write that one downward for her because that is fantastic.
Speaker 2I got one where it's the first night with Brennan in the house and Dale's given him the tour, and Dale goes house was built in eighteen twenty five by Custer.
Speaker 1What early on when they're fighting too.
I think it's Brennan that says this one.
It's just such a ridiculous image.
It just makes me laugh.
I'm going to take a pillowcase and fill it with bars of soap and beat you with it.
Speaker 2Yes, And that made Dale shut up because Dale, I think visualize that and go, you thought, yeah, this is something that's actually gonna that's actually gonna happen.
I Like, there's a part where the boys are sleeping and the parents come in to wake them up, and the last thing that Dale says as he wakes up is the plown has no penis.
Speaker 1Well, okay, the sleepwalking that might come up here in a little bit too.
Speaker 2Yeah, sleepwalking.
There was some pretty crazy shit there as well.
Speaker 1Yeah, well we've said most of men already earlier.
But there's another great one at the end.
It's a very under the radar one.
But the dad is trying to convince him to go on stage and play the drums because he wants his son to go up there and save it and be who he is.
And he gives this story about when he was young he wanted to be a dinosaur, and Dale just goes in the most seriousness, you're human, you could never be a dinosaur, the voice of reason.
Speaker 4Dale.
Speaker 2Yeah, another one I have, and the last one I got here when they're up in the treehouse and Brennan tells Dale that he has such a great selection of porn, and Dale tells him because, yeah, I got stuff from the seventies, eighties, and nineties.
It's like masturbating in a time machine.
Speaker 1Time machine.
Yeah, I think that pretty much the other ones I had we said in the earlier portion here, Yeah, I mean, and there's more.
I'm sure we could get people that are listening to offer more because there's so many great lines and people love the movie, right, But to just go a little bit deeper here, I created a few extra categories as time as we like to do occasionally, and so we've talked about how it's over the top.
So what is your most over the top moment in this movie?
There's no of options.
Speaker 2Mine, honestly is the end where where Brennan is singing and everybody just all of a sudden comes around, like Derek start thinks of a time when they flew kites and now my brother's wonderful and like, you know, even like Rob Wriggles's character and all those like they're getting into it, and the parents come back together and everybody's clapping and it's just absolutely amazing, even though in the background you've got Dale and just random spots like that was the part, And that's where I love how the therapist came in and she's like the only rational adult that hasn't been put under this spell of Brennan's singing until the very end, which is kind of confusing to me.
Why the hell is she at the house with the family.
She she has made it clear that she is not interested in him whatsoever in any way at that time.
Speaker 1Yeah, right, and the way she the way she words that every time is pretty fantastic too, right, so that even the parents are too stupid to buy it.
They're like, oh, come.
Speaker 4On, she's a keeper.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 2Uh, that that's my over the top moment.
I guess, go ahead.
Speaker 1I didn't expect that.
I'm surprised.
Mine is the sleepwalking, which is two scenes, but more so this Christmas one where it's they start bringing the presence in and just throwing them on the floor in the bedroom.
But then they bring a tree in, which I thought that was hilarious, which to that point it's pretty funny.
But then of course Robert wants to wake them up and she tells him not to, and so he wakes them up and they just start beating the ship out of the dad.
I mean, it's like, oh my god, this is that's where you get to screaming in the craziness and it's like people don't sleepwalk like that?
Speaker 2Right?
Speaker 1Oh that was mine?
Speaker 2Well, And the first sleepwalk scene like they're independent of one another.
Yeah, but in the second one, like their quaranteam the team sleep walking together.
Speaker 1My backup for this would be the boats and hose video and the bogeting ruin and then he actually spanks Brennan.
I think that's that was great.
That's maybe deserved but still that over the top to spank him like that, it's funny.
Speaker 2I I gotta I gotta give it to Robert.
Not not that you know, I was a you know, I spank my kids or anything like that, but interesting technique to mount him from behind and then reach behind yourself.
Speaker 1Well, you're doing a full grown adult.
You might have to take a different tack.
Speaker 4You might have to take a different tech.
Speaker 2Yeah, probably don't need to do that with a with a smaller child.
The one thing I will say is, you know, Robert and Nancy are just they're such nice people, and they're obviously driven people and grounded people, and it shows you that even good people can be absolute shit parents because there's no way you would allow one of your kids.
Speaker 1To or they're just so nice that they just, you know, sound easier to let them do what they're doing.
Yeah, all right, Well, this is a Will Ferrell comedy, so he could be an easy choice maybe, But who is the most over the top actor in this movie?
Me first?
This time.
This is a really tough call because you could pick so many, but I'm actually going with Robert Richard Jenkins, and the reason is because he is such more more of a serious actor than the others, so seeing him act this way coming He was nominated the next year for an Oscar.
But his love for Adam Scott when he first meet him is so disturbing, how much he loves him, and then even though you totally feel it and he should be upset at these kids, the way that he is quite selfish at times and kind of pisses off what's her name man, you know, and he and he like can't let it go and let keep his wife happy.
At the same time, I just think there's a few scenes where when he gets which to the limit.
And I don't mean it in a bad way because I love that he's willing to do this, Like, it's great that this guy did this movie.
But that's why I'm picking him, because it's so much against kind of type.
Speaker 2Sure, well, I'm I'm going the opposite way.
I'm taking the low hanging fruit here.
Uh, I'm going Rob Wriggle.
Speaker 1Think of him.
But that's great.
Speaker 2Yeah, the guy eats a dick in international waters, so he couldn't be charged.
So yeah, to me, he is just so absolutely over the top, you know, bros out harder than anybody in this in this movie, complete, complete psychopath.
So for me, it was Rob Wriggle.
And I like Rob Wriggle.
I think he's very funny.
I loved him in The Hangover.
Is the Cop.
Speaker 4Great?
Speaker 2You know, yeah, he can be a lot, right and I and I mean I liked him in the Other Guys as you know, the guys who come up to try to be the next cool cops.
He was good in that too.
Speaker 1So that's a great pick because I didn't even know.
I wasn't thinking of him.
I was thinking of the bigger characters.
So h He's a great choice.
Okay, our next we have two more categories.
The next one is the biggest Dick, which is kind of an obvious choice, but I'm wondering if you might go off the border or not.
Speaker 2I'm staying right down the middle on this.
We're gonna have a draft a little bit later in honor of this character, and I'm going Derek.
I mean, he is just such a magnificent dick in this movie.
He plays it so well.
Got you know, the younger brother, so you know, always you know, maybe a little bit of inferiority to the bigger brother.
But I mean the scene from High school at the talent contest and then he wins my lip syncing ice.
Yeah, he's he's just a complete nuttered douchebag.
So I got Derek for this one.
Speaker 1He's mine too.
But I did think that Robert again is a sneaky pick because the way he gravitates right away to Derek and doesn't even like you can see why Dale, who's an idiot of course, but like he'd be so upset that he wouldn't even listen to his kid talk because he's fan bowing over Derek so much.
And there's times where he does go too far, as I just said on the over the top now.
So I think he's a sneaky backup pick.
But Derek is the biggest dickhead I.
Speaker 2Think for Robert, he is so enamored with the thought that a child could be true, just anything other than Dale, you know, you know, have a career, have a family, not live at home.
You know, it's just such a it's a brand new world for Robert looking at looking at Derek, all right, and then our last so you know, we could have called that the Roger Ebert Memorial Biggest because he said the movie was mean so to finish a little happier.
Speaker 1Who's the best person in this movie?
There is there any redeemable character?
And who would you pick?
Speaker 4You go ahead?
Speaker 1Oh well, I mean even Nancy has some issues here and there.
So I'm picking Andreas Savage the therapist, because she's the only one that doesn't buy it.
Although at the end she's at their house and it seems like in the time in the past her end, Brendan have become a thing, and then she says he can wear the shit out of that pirate hat.
Yes, yes, so I think that she should be the best person because she does not give into any of this.
But again, I'm gonna keep going back to Robert.
He could fit all these categories.
Again, He's a sneaky pick because he can't really blame him for how Maddie gets at the kids.
I mean, the kids are absolute idiots, and then when they most need it, he does support them, and he's kind of the thing that really he's kind of the thing that switches him around at the very end and gives them the push.
So I did want to give him credit for that.
Yeah, so I will put him as my backup.
Speaker 2I'm going with the Ray of Sunshine.
That is Nancy Mary Stein Virgin.
I mean, she is just she's always so soft spoken, except except in the fight scene outside where she you know, screams, But but she's always so sweet and she's you know, so happy to see Robert, you know, at at the end of it, at the Catalina wine mixer.
She's always more than supportive of her kids, which is maybe why they turned out the way they are.
But she's maybe nice to a fault in that way.
Speaker 1That's why I didn't pick her, because I felt like she enabled this and she it's she's she's part of the problem.
Speaker 2Well, and that's what the therapist said at the end, Like there you go.
Speaker 1That's why I put her over Nancy, even though you know she's obviously a very nice person, right yep, okay, uh so, Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
Even if it's not your favorite or you know, my favorite comedy.
It's a fun fun movie to watch and talk about.
Yeah, yeah, what do you think about it now, Gifford?
Are you like a fan or are you still like lukewarm?
Speaker 5No?
Speaker 2I mean I it's one of those where if you just want to watch something dumb, like turn this on and you're gonna laugh.
I mean, Will Ferrell is he just he does such a wonderful job.
Speaker 4And John C.
I love John C.
Rather, I think I might.
Speaker 2Love him more than more than Ferrell because he holds back a little more consistently, more consistency.
Yeah, So it's it's great the whole way around.
I I really enjoy it.
Speaker 1Yeah, And I think the thing to me that makes it hold together and become not too stupid or over the top is that Richard Jenkins and Mary Stein Virgin as the parents.
They're they're great, and they gave a little more legitimacy than maybe some other people would.
The anchor the ship, the anchor.
Yeah, okay, well what are we doing for our draft?
Speaker 2So our draft tonight in honor of Derek in this movie, We're gonna draft from any media, movies, TV, if you've got a music video or something you can think of.
We're gonna draft the most annoying siblings, not necessarily.
Speaker 5Like like.
Speaker 2Diabolical evil whatever, but really just annoying and and and you can you can take it however you want, whether it's annoying to you or if they're annoying to their sibling.
In the show or the Yep.
Absolutely so tonight I'll be going first, then Brad, and then Pete has honored us with his list, which Brad as, so we will.
Speaker 1Just pick whoever's first on the list after us, whatever order he's got him in here, Yes, sir, he even made a few little comments on some of them too, so we'll toss those in.
Speaker 2Awesome.
Well, I am going with my heart on this first one.
This show is one of my first loves.
We've covered it on this show.
I'm going with Wayne from the Wonder Years.
Speaker 1Yeah, good, pick.
Speaker 4Constantly on Kevin.
I don't know.
Speaker 2Maybe it's because I'm a younger brother.
I've got a few older siblings on here, rather than the younger siblings being the best, because I was the best younger sibling.
But yeah, Wayne, but Wayne still cared about his brother.
He wasn't, you know, all out gonna kill him.
I mean there, it was a good brotherly rivalry and Wayne was always there to poke fun.
Speaker 1And funny enough.
Pete and I both have it on our list, and we both have him listed at number nine on our list.
Speaker 2Nice.
Yeah, well, I'm glad that he made your lists.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Oh, I thought of him.
He was one that I didn't need to do much research on.
All Right, Well, my top three, I wonder if I'll get all three.
I think there's a good chance that I will.
They are three that I thought of that I don't think anybody would jump ahead of.
And the first one I thought of.
It's not a big part, but it's one of my all time favorite movies and it's from nineteen eighty four and we talked about it a few years ago on this show.
And the first kid I think of when I think of a jackass annoying sibling is Mike Baker, Samantha Baker's little brother in sixteen Candles.
That kid is just such a puke.
He offers next to nothing to the movie.
His comments are really not funny, they're just lame, and he just walks around like he thinks he's something else.
He sucks.
Speaker 4The first sucks.
Speaker 1First one I thought of because of my love for the.
Speaker 2Movie for sure, Right, yeah, you love the movie?
All right?
Speaker 4What's Pete got?
Speaker 1So Pete's number one overall?
He doesn't have any comments on this, but this is one where I have some as well, Like, there's six kids in this family, and I could think of four.
Speaker 4He good picks.
Speaker 1Yep, he went with maybe the most common one, although I don't know if she's the most annoying, but he picked jan Brady from the Brady h I would put some others that's more annoying maybe than her, but she definitely has the reputation of being kind of the outcast siblings, so she's a great first choice.
Speaker 2Excellent, alright.
My number two is Roman from The Great Outdoors.
He's the brother in law to Chet, which means he's the brother to his wife Connie.
Very annoying throughout the entire movie, you know, always a lot of one upsmanship.
He knows better than everybody else.
That's right.
Dan Aykroyd is Roman.
Speaker 1That movie is not one of my favorites.
So I thought that's who it was, but I had to just confirm, Oh sure, yep, it's okay.
I mean really, all I liked about that movie that I remember is when John Candy gets jumped on by.
Speaker 2The bear on the Big Bear Chase Me.
Speaker 1You think, yeah, that's that's that's of course it has a very memorable part.
Yes, I'm okay.
My number two then is here, so this is from You can call it one of my favorite movie series of all time, although it has a movie that I really can't hardly stand in it, Okay, and part of it is because of the sibling and in European Vacation.
So our friend Dave thinks Rusty in European Vacation is the best Rusty of them all, and I wouldn't go that far at all, but he's no, he's miles better than Audrey.
Audrey and European Vacation is one of the worst characters I can ever see in a movie.
She is so off putting, she's so terrible, and she is annoying in every way, and we'll talked about.
Speaker 4Her and crying over zab Gun.
Speaker 1Well, we did do an episode on that because we did all four Vacation movies, and actually it's a really good episode because Dave was on to make the case that it's the best vacation movie and the three of us were like, huh no, but it's a good conversation.
Speaker 2Yeah, I had that was the third person that I wrote down.
Well, so you did have her up there was Audrey from European Vacation.
Yeah, oh, then we're back peaking again.
Speaker 1Yeah, this one was a surprise to me, so he picked Mallory Keaton Justine Bateman on Family Ties.
He said she's kind of annoyingly dumb compared to Alex, who was pretty smart.
Now I get that, but to me, it's low hanging fruit.
If you're going Family Ties, it's Jennifer, Tina others.
Speaker 4All the lay right.
Speaker 1So that's why it surprised me that he didn't pick her when he did pick Mallory.
Speaker 2All right, Well, my third pick is going to be a universally hated character on a university universally loved show.
Speaker 1Interesting.
I would describe my next pick as well.
Speaker 2I am going with Skylar White from Breaking Bad.
That's that's Marie's sister.
Speaker 1We're in the same universe though, okay, good I have.
Speaker 2A similar one there too, So I mean, she's just absolutely one.
Her whole character is just annoying to watch.
In general.
Marie is annoying herself, but you know, she's not quite as bad, I would say, as as Skylar.
Skyler cheats on her husband obviously doesn't tell Marie that the guy that her Marie's husband's been hunting for five years is in fact Walt, you know, I mean, she's yeah, she's just annoying as hell.
Speaker 1So yeah, I know you hate her and I don't like her character either, but I didn't even think of her as a sibling.
But yeah, she she does have a sister on the show, So yep, you and include her easily.
Well, I'm going to go to the spinoff better call Saul, and when I watch this show, like, I love the show, but I hated Chuck McGill with a passion.
Yeah, he was just one of my most all time villainous characters.
I couldn't stand him.
And I get it.
Saul's not great, he makes mistakes, but god, I hated that guy well.
Speaker 2And Chuck, he's one that he believes he's right all the time, all the time.
He's an amazing legal mind, yet his mind doesn't get out of his own damn way in order to allow him to function as a you know, a member of society as you would and completely annoying that you know, Jimmy is doing all this stuff to try to help him when he can and bring groceries and be basically his lifeline to the rest of the world, and Chuck, just time and time again, he can't get out of his own damn way.
So yes, I I have Chuck.
I wrote Chuck down first, and that made me think of Skyler.
Speaker 1Okay, so we both had him.
Great pick, thank you.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I was glad that I didn't forget about him because oh I just got he sucked.
Speaker 4Yep.
Speaker 1Okay, the next one I don't have any notes on from Pete.
I'm assuming it's just because you know, sometimes the youngest sibling on some of these comedies was kind of the forgotten one and kind of annoying or like didn't need to be there.
Again, I could go Family Ties because you had Jennifer, and then they added another kid below that too.
Eventually he picked number three, Ben Seaver on Growing Pains.
Speaker 4Oh that the.
Speaker 1Youngest, right, I don't remember him.
I didn't like him.
Again, this reminds me of same time frame, same basic thing.
If you go in that category, I would have picked the little brother on Who's the Boss because that kid was annoying Danny Borrow.
Speaker 4But he wasn't the brother.
Speaker 2He was Angela's kid, and and Samantha was Tony's kid.
Speaker 1I don't remember that.
I mean, I guess you're right.
Speaker 2I thought of him, but then I was like, oh, wait, he doesn't he's not a sibling.
Speaker 1Well maybe he didn't pick him for that, but he has been sever, which I get because he's kind of like, just what's the point of ben sever Although I'm sure some people would some people would pick a Tracy Gold too.
I mean she's.
Speaker 2Yeah, yep, Tracy Gold would be a good one.
Speaker 4All right, So I have my numbered.
Speaker 1Yeah, now I gotta go off my board and see who's gonna fit best next.
Speaker 2Let me see I think I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna change this up here.
Uh, I'm going with Genie in Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
She wants nothing more than for her awesome brother to get caught in the act, doing whatever she can throughout the whole movie to get him busted, and it takes a drugged out Charlie Sheen to set her straight at the end.
That's how messed up she is.
Speaker 1That's good.
Okay, My next one's a good one.
This is one of the just absolute most idiotic annoying siblings there ever was.
We have a show.
We have a show on this one too, requested by my sister when we did a fans Choice one job Arrested Developments.
Speaker 2Oh yes, and.
Speaker 1I have Lindsay right behind him because they pulled just terrible.
Yes, but job, oh my god, is the just absolute biggest idiots and that Michael has to put up with that guy is just amazing.
Speaker 2That's a that's phenomenal.
Speaker 1Thank you.
Speaker 4That is a.
Speaker 2Great, great pick.
Holy Yeah he should have been.
Yeah, but you could let him slide because I, I mean, I wasn't a huge, you know, watcher of arrested development, so I was not gonna I didn't have him on my list.
Speaker 1So I'm looking at Pete's list here.
He did have Genie number six.
Okay, very close.
I'm wondering what we want to do here, So his four and five, his number four is Audrey Griswold, but he picked the original vacation, which again I don't understand why why he picked her at all.
But do we go with that because I already picked her in a different one?
Do we go with his number five from a variety?
Speaker 2I think we because you already picked I think it's kind of like, yeah, the character's off the board, let's do that.
Speaker 1So I'd like to hear more about why he picked her over the European Vacation one or even like Julie at Lewis like, I mean, I mean yeah, because I love the original Audrey, I don't get it that was his next So anyway, we go to his number five overall instead, which is Buzz McAllister from Home Alone.
And I had him high on my list as well.
Speaker 2I had Kevin well he I think he has Kevin too.
That that he gets left behind.
Speaker 1So he took Evans annoying, I get it.
But he's a kid and they treat him like crap.
And you get what.
He's a kid.
That's why he acts the way he did.
This Buzz guy man, he's a he's a piece of work, he is, and he doesn't do anything to like keep things going well.
So I like that.
I think that's a better pick for Pete.
Speaker 2There, all right, So I'm on to my last one.
Correct, you are all right?
This is the first person I thought of when I thought of this category.
I'm taking Bill Paxton's character Chet from Weird Science.
Older brother, older brother, always on his case.
I mean, he's you know, a little more crude, a little rougher, but completely fricking annoying, to be sure.
So that's my fifth pick.
Speaker 1Pete has him at his number eight, so right on the same line there, and his only note is total dick.
Speaker 4Yes, it's the only note you need.
Speaker 1Okay, I am picking another movie that we have done on the show, and this one he's not as bad as a character, as a person as some of these.
Some of these are bad people.
This is just an annoying, pathetic sibling.
And that would be Kip from A Napoleon Dynamite.
Yes, I mean this guy is like the Stepbrothers guys.
He has zero gumption, he's dumb, he's annoying.
He acts like a child Kip, Yeah all the way.
Speaker 4That's good.
Well, and you're gonna take a Napoleon too.
Speaker 1Look, Napoleon man, he's got some He's got some one, believe it or not.
He's the one trying to keep that family together.
I mean he really is.
Speaker 2And then we got Pete's last one, deep last pick.
Speaker 1So his next one on the list is Randy Parker from A Christmas Story.
Speaker 2Oh come on, ye, yes, I didn't have Randy.
Speaker 1I have Randy as well on my list.
I thought of him too.
Speaker 4That's really good.
I like that.
What else does Pete have on his list?
Speaker 1Okay, here's the rest of Pete's list.
He has Billy from Stranger Things.
He loves his character, but he's intended to be the heavy and so he didn't like him as a sibling.
He has Ginny from Harry Potter.
He thinks Harry could have done better.
Okay, Ginny Weasley one of many many siblings.
This is a good one.
I thought of this one too.
Monica Geller on Friends.
He said she is the most annoying of all the Friends characters, and I sister.
Speaker 2He did say the dynamic added a great storyline between the two, but I would pick her too, Like we we love Ross on the show.
Speaker 1People that don't like Ross, they just don't get it.
Ross is the star of the show.
Speaker 2The one thing willybe not the first two or three seasons, but Ross holds that show together for the last six years or so.
The one thing I will say is Ross himself is so peculiar that.
Speaker 1You could put him on there too.
Speaker 4That I I.
Speaker 2Have Monica, but she may seem less annoying to a peculiar person like him, because they also went so far as to have the dance, which you know, those two, You know, if you're basing it on the siblings reaction.
I don't think he dislikes her very much, no, but heat's reaction, yes.
Speaker 4And that's why I put her on there too.
Speaker 1He has three more.
He has Lisa Simpson from The Simpsons, opposite of Mallory.
She's the intelligent one, and that made her annoying.
I had Lisa too, yep.
I don't really remember the character here what she was like.
But he has Gerty Drew Barrymore an et and all I remember is, you know, Drew bary Moore is the cutest, So I don't remember her character and being annoying or anything.
It's been a long time.
And then he has Carlton on the Fresh Prince.
Yes, all right, all right, why don't you go next?
And then I'll have whoever's left over?
Speaker 2All right?
So of course Derek again.
We went through another draft where the the impetus for the draft is not picked.
Speaker 4I have got.
Speaker 2I had Kevin McAllister from Home Alone.
I also put mcaulay culkin miles character in for Uncle Buck.
His older sister did not like him very much.
I love the line where she comes down the steps she's gonna go out, and or he comes down the steps and he goes are you waiting for your sex?
I think that's just such a great replied by an annoying little brother.
When I picked Genie from Ferris Mueller's Day Off.
Of course that took me to dirty dancing.
And Lisa Baby's sister is extremely annoying.
Morgan from Goodwill Hunting Casey Affleck's character Ben Afflex brother in the movie Give Me My Burger Sandwich, David from Ship's Creek.
I love David to no end.
Speaker 1Okay, I had David and Alexis down because at different points in the series they're interchangeable, so I couldn't pick one over the other really, but I would pick David probably first.
Speaker 2And the last one I have is Bud from Married with Children because he Bud Bundy would do he was I don't know why that took me a second there it So those are the ones.
Speaker 1Those are the ones that I mentioned, not just Joe but Lindsey and Arrested Development, although she's probably a little less annoying.
So if Pete would know this one.
We all love the show Cobra Kai and the younger LaRusso.
Anthony LaRusso, the boy, he's just what a what a just a dumb character.
He's annoying, and then he gets older and he gets worse, because you know what, kids like that get older and bigger, they just whatever charm they had is gone, and that's gonna fit in the next one.
I'll say Manny on Modern Family.
I loved him at first.
He was great, but he just very annoying as the show went on.
And he is a sibling because they added Joe the younger kid to it.
M Cinderella's stepsisters.
We should throw them in there.
Oh yes, I mean I guess they're stepsisters if you're not counting.
Speaker 2That, but yeah, that's pretty good again.
Speaker 1I had Jennifer and Family Ties on my list, same era I picked.
You could pick either Vanessa or Sondra, maybe even Denise on The Cosby Show.
Most of those older girls siblings were not great, and Vanessa could be really annoying, but Sondra was like just dumb.
She was like, why do we need Sondra?
Get her off the show?
M.
He picked jan I actually wrote down Cindy and Bobby before jan because and Cindy's probably the most annoying if you really watch a Brady bunch.
Speaker 2Of Sidney was the one I thought of, Yeah.
Speaker 1She she's a tattle tale and she does so much stupid crap.
And then I had Randy from a Christmas Story, and David and Alexis and Chit's Creek as well.
In that complete I had Wayne like you had from Wonder Years, and Lisa Simpson, I had Buzz so all those same ones.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, there's some good ones out there, very very annoying and and for that reason memorable.
They did a good jobs as those actors.
Speaker 1So a lot of these are actually remembered without really doing any research or looking it up to see what I missed and forgot.
Speaker 2The one caveat to that would be the actress who plays Skyler in Uh Breaking Bad.
I don't think she has any redeeming qualities.
I don't know if Chuck McGill does either, But he's a great I mean he's a good actor.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, well yeah, I mean Michael McKeon.
Yeah, he's a good actor.
So Pete came through tonight for us by giving us a list.
Next week is supposed to be his choice, So I guess we'll find out everybody if he's going to give us a choice or if Giff and me are gonna have to like maybe do something on the fly, which could be fun.
Speaker 2Yeah, we could throw something together.
It's uh, you know, we've been doing this long enough.
Speaker 1We think we're talking about Family Guy next week, but that's Piet's pick, and we don't know, and between the two of us, I don't know if we really could pull that off without his telling us what to do.
Speaker 4Expertise.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, but I mean tonight, you know, excellent subject.
Glad glad that we covered it.
I think we you know, for our audience.
I think you know, this was something we needed to to delve into, and I'm glad we did.
It was always you know, it's fun to rewatch the movie and see it again.
Speaker 1Well, and I hope they appreciate it that we picked it for them.
Speaker 2Absolutely.
Hey Brad, Hey, Hey what hey?
Which band had its breakout hit with the song ships and Prostitutes?
Speaker 1Oh that was a preacher row that was way before Boats and Hoes.
They like totally rip that off.
Speaker 2That is correct, That is correct.
You know their album or their catalog very well?
Speaker 1Yes, And you know, surprisingly you listen to Ships and Prostitutes, it's catchier thing.
You think it's hard a rhyme but doesn't roll off the tongue as easily.
Speaker 2But but it works.
Speaker 4That's the beauty of it.
Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1All right, well we will see you next week as we close the yearbook.
Then on a two thousand weeks.
Speaker 4Yeah for sure.
Thanks, thanks for listening, everybody.
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