Hi, you doing, everybody.

I'm Ken Bikoff and welcome to the Pigs postgame Live.

Indiana wo ooh doctor twenty to fifteen winners at Iowa in a game that Indiana did not play its best game.

In fact, I will go so far as to say that that was maybe the worst game that I've seen of the Kurt Signetti era in terms of coaching staff, in terms of just everything that goes along with what was going on.

But Indiana got the win.

They made the plays when they needed to.

Indiana's defense was good for the most part on all day.

I can't say enough about the gritty job that the Hoosiers did today.

Just the second time and the first time I'm in IU history that the Hoosiers have opened a season five and zero on back to back seasons.

Coming off of that win over Illinois, it was absolutely huge that Indiana could come out and get the win.

It wasn't pretty.

I really felt that Indiana's offense really really struggled in a big way.

I got a lot of questions about the decisions that were made in terms of run versus pass ratio because that seemed a little bit crazy to me.

But the result is a W, and I say all the time, it isn't how, it's how many, and the Hoosiers pick up the W they find a way to do it.

Twenty to fifteen, so much to go over in this game.

Eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is the number.

Indiana picking up just its fourth win at Iowa since the nineteen eighty season, so that's forty five years.

Indiana has won in Iowa just four times, first time since two and seven.

And you might remember that game, the two thousand and seven game that included Kellen Lewis scoring a touchdown on a long touchdown run.

Josiah Sears fumbled and the Hoosiers and Lewis picked up the fumble, ran the distance, got flipped into the end zone and had the score.

And that's that's how was the highlight of that game.

This one, it's obviously going to be Elijah Sarrat and the forty nine yard touchdown reception with just a minute twenty eight left in the game.

Sarat had a nice game, had a really nice game.

Six catches, one hundred and thirty two yards and that touchdown.

Fernando Mendoza finishes thirteen of twenty three for two hundred and thirty three yards and two touchdowns.

He had his first interception, It was a real bad one at that got clocked in the face as they went and Indiana overcame all of that, made plays when they needed to, got a couple of key interceptions, bounced back even though they fell behind.

But this was a gritty, gritty win for this ball club.

Eight one, two, three, nine, three, twenty six hundred is the number of the lines are open.

I want to hear from you here on this Saturday night.

Just a massive win, Just a massive win Indiana three hundred and thirty seven yards of total offense, two thirty three through the air, one hundred and four on the ground.

That includes, though the forty yard loss on the final play of the game, which was a safety, which was exactly the right move for Indiana to do.

We'll hear from Kurtzignetti.

I don't doubt here in just a little bit.

But it was a outing that I ain't gonna lie to you, folks.

I thought Indiana was in a lot of trouble through most of that second half.

Iowa was sticking around, and I know Iowa likes to make it dirty, but that was something I was really really concerned about as the day went on, and I just felt that it looked like they were going to be able to Iowa was going to come out with the win on the winning on the road's tough.

It was ugly.

Indiana got it.

We got our first callar color practicy, name where you're from and what you got?

Hey, this is Ryan from Blooington Ken.

How you doing.

I'm doing great, Ryan.

How are you doing?

I'm all right, man.

Heart was racing there for a long time.

You know, I don't think I could say I was fully calm until really when there were zeros on the clock.

There a lot of confusion with the refs and that victory formation stuff.

But you know, like you said, super goody win.

I think this has got to be considered signety's best road win, not necessarily for style points, but hey, at the end of the day, like you were saying, they pulled it out and a wins.

But I had a question for you, Like I was saying there with those rests, just thought they didn't have a great control of the game, and there's a lot of confusion there, not only not only at the end, but there's also that scuffle there, right, and just your thoughts on that.

Well, I mean, I'm not quiet about how I don't think the Big ten officials do a very good job.

And let's start with the scuffle at the end of the third quarter.

You had a flag on the play and it was an offside and then the officials, after huddling for a long time, decide they're only going to call this offside penalty, and then he announces it wrong by saying that it's offside.

On the defense, it'll be fourth down, but it was third down.

If the penalty was accepted, it had to be third down.

But he missed the word of declined.

So that was a problem in and of itself.

The scuffle and all of that that was I I was happy they didn't throw any flags there because nobody got out of hand with that wasn't a late hit.

I wasn't worried about that, so at least cooler heads prevailed with that.

But when they explained the off side, that didn't make any sense.

The officials missed several holding calls.

I felt on Iowa they missed a targeting call on a play as well.

They just I believe it was Cooper I think got popped and the kid lowered his head, hit him with the crown on the head, right in the face.

No call with that, and then the end of the game that to me, they were blowing the whistle without Mendoza taking a knee.

You can't anticipate that.

And I don't want to hear about well he gave himself up or anything like that until he hits the ground.

He could pull up and throw the ball.

He could go ahead and run.

So whatever they want to argue on that one, I think is garbage because the Indiana was doing exactly what they were supposed to do and the officials were essentially giving Iowa some extra time.

So I'm going to need a huge explanation on that because what I saw, uh, there was not.

It was the officials whistling with anticipation instead of calling what they saw.

Couldn't agree more, man, I mean even Signetti said as he was walking off the field on on the uh on Peacock, he was saying, hey, I need some clarity on what was going on there too.

So but I always appreciate the show.

Ken, have a good night, man.

I appreciate it.

Thanks for the call.

Ryan eight one two three nine three, twenty six hundred is the number.

Uh we have.

Just it's the officiating.

When you're talking about that kind of thing, people are going to miss calls.

And that's fine.

Uh And this game, if it had been won or loss, wouldn't have been one or lost on officiating.

But when you have things like that where yes, you know they're going to take a knee, but you have to wait until they actually take the knee.

I don't understand uh uh that sequence.

It just didn't make sense to me at all.

On the chat, Troyka says for that sideline hit, I know Mendoza was going for that first down, but he's got to be aware he's a target when he's until he's actually out of bounds.

Yeah, that's a tough one because you want to be a football player.

You want to pick up that extra yard.

But he got popped and he ran into an equipment box.

And I know that the walls at Kinnick Stadium are really close to really really close to the sideline wall, so it's tight over there.

JM says.

On the radio call, Buck said that Mendoza can only take one step back, not multiple steps.

Said this was changed a few seasons ago.

Well, that's fine, but who's to say that they're going to take a knee there.

I believe buck Buck knows his stuff.

But if you have a situation like that, you could have a guy pick it up and run.

It's a regular play.

So I think that that one is kind of an odd thing, an odd thing, and I was very happy to see that they went ahead and on the final play, ran the forty yards backwards, got to the end zone, took the safety.

Was absolutely the correct call in that situation because you didn't want to punt it to Iowa's kick returner, who has been awfully good this year.

Eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is the number want to hear from you.

Mendoza thirteen to twenty three, two thirty three, two touchdowns in an interception.

I think part of the thing with him today was his decision making wasn't great.

He got the w we can't discount that at all, but I thought his decision making wasn't always great some on some read option plays that he had.

Signetti said in the post game that a lot of those short yardage on fourth down were called from the sideline.

I am baffled, just baffled at the fact that Indiana on the day ran the ball thirty nine times thirty nine times in this one, and that's a lot against an Iowa team that is pretty damn good at stopping the run, and that decision right there to run the ball as much as they did, especially because the offensive line wasn't exactly killing it when it came to just blowing open holes.

E were out right, but it just it was not something that I just don't understand how it is that they ran the ball or why that decision was made to run the ball as much as they did.

I'm trying real quick to figure out what exactly their ranking was against the run in the Big Ten.

So as I'm talking, I'm pulling up stats and I can't find it.

That's okay, hey, win two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is the number Indiana thirty nine rushes for basically one hundred and forty four yards or is it thirty eight carries for one hundred and forty four yards lost forty yards on the team thing.

Travis on Twitter says worst bad beat I've ever had in gambling had IU minus six and a half.

Very strange by the officials and in fact, Mendoz, according to Zach Osterman from the Indianapolis Star, says, I know I shouldn't be saying this, but I probably cooked people's spreads, and I apologize for that.

But my jab job is to win the game.

I understand that completely.

On that lines are wide open.

Join us.

I hope that here on the Saturday night, we can celebrate this victory as I want to hear from you, because this was an IU team that showed me a lot today.

It showed me a lot again.

I was very concerned, but this defense did a great job picked up the slack for the offense.

Then the Hoosiers made the plays down the stretch that they needed to to win.

Obviously got a boost from the Iowa kicker going wide left on his shot, but sometimes you need that and then you have to capitalize on it.

We have another color color.

Have your name, where you're from and what you got?

Hey, Ken, this is t Bone Todd Plumber Browns down, Indiana.

How you doing.

I'm doing good?

T Bone?

What's up?

Hey, buddy?

You know I watching that game.

It was the rough one to watch, but a win to win, I tell you if anything, that I will back up quarterback that poor kid.

You know, he had that incomplete on third down to give you the ball back with what like two minutes left, and then Iowa fans had to have zero confidence heading into that last drive with that kid.

I mean, he you know, God love him.

He looked bad though, he almost looked as bad as my neighbor's lawn.

But anyway, that ending, the ending there is weird.

You know, it's unusual for him to take a safety, but it seals the w and I'm not quite sure.

What the change in rules have been.

So the question for.

You is how does Mendoza's performance today impact the discussion about him as a leader for the Heisman.

I'll say that the fact that he was able to come back and lead him to the win I think makes a difference with that.

I also say that discussion about who's the leader in the Heisman race on September twenty seventh is kind of not silly.

But there's a lot of football left to be played.

I mean, we're talking two thirds of the season left, so you know he's still going to be in the discussion with that.

And but he did not have a good day there's no question, and if we get to the end of the season, people are going to be able to point to this game as being something that he really struggled with.

But the thirteen to twenty three he still threw the winning touchdown pass when his team needed it the most.

And to me, he did show a ton of toughness today against an Iowa defense that really, uh, you know, was putting the pop on him.

They were hard, and they were blitzing the hell out of him, and he didn't always see that blitz And that's a little bit of Eyebarrow razor for me, because you guarantee other teams saw that as well.

Well, you know, he took a lot of hits, and he's been prone to taking some hits this season so far too.

And hey, I'm thankful that it was I was backup quarterback that had to go.

In, not ours.

But I'm gonna let myself enjoy watching Oregon versus ten State tonight.

But this offense can't struggle on the road like that if it wants to seriously contend for the CSP.

I know, like you said, it's just September, but it's hard to not let yourself think about later on down the road.

Gritty defense though, I'll give the team that gritty defense.

I've really enjoyed watching Isaiah bones Jones.

What a game that kid had tonight.

End of the day, Indiana's five and zero, can't beat that.

Heading into the by, everybody looked like they stayed healthy.

Absolutely, I appreciate the call, T Bone, Thank you so much.

Thanks can Eight one two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is the number he was mentioning.

You know that I use offense on the road, has to get going.

It was just it was an odd game.

It was an odd game because there were so many runs even though Iowa was stacking the box, and they weren't dropping out of those blitzes very often either, And so I mean, with all of that, I think that that was an odd thing.

I'm looking forward to Monday when we talk a little bit with the coaching staff about that that run to pass ratio.

It worked out you can't be one dimensional, but normally they tried to be a little bit more balanced, and it was thirty nine carries versus twenty three passes.

Eight one two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is the number.

We got.

Another caller caller if I could have your name, where you're from and what you got?

H Hey, Ken, It's Rob Thompson.

How you doing, man?

I'm from Greenwood.

Hey, how you doing?

Rob?

Hey?

Man?

Hey?

I called last week?

So this is going to be our new tradition.

I asked you last week after that drumming, what what do you think the ceiling is for this team?

Like that was a tough road when wasn't pretty, right, was not pretty?

But what has it changed from last week to this week?

I'm just curious.

Well, I know, I don't if anything.

I think this is a great lesson learned by the Hoosiers to go on the road and be able to battle through an ugly game where they've been rolling and improving week after week after week, and in this one they didn't improve, but they still managed to grid out the win.

I think being able to win a game like this is really really important for this team as they continue to go through the tough Big Ten schedule.

Going to Iowa, beating an Iowa team that you know isn't ranked, but it's still you're You're winning on the road at Iowa.

It's not something that a lot of teams do and so that that to me is something that it's a great lesson learned for this team.

Yeah, but still, I mean I think Iowa dictated right the line of scrimmage most of the game, right, But to be able to still do that, I mean, and I guess still and not I mean been a fan for years, right, but I you doesn't go in and win these games?

Yep.

And it's just amazing what is happening with IU and every week belief comes more and more.

In my opinion, right, it sounds like you, what do you think they're going to do against Oregon?

Do you think you're gonna be able to go in and do this?

I don't know, you know, and I'm right where you are.

I think that I you know you that's that's a bad place to be.

Can you never want to be in the same place.

I'm ass you.

Keep waiting for it to fall apart and not you.

I mean, I you fans no.

No, me yeah, me no, me me me yes yeah no.

But I know what you're saying, yeah, because that's that's just built into our bodies, right, I mean, it's football.

We haven't been doing this long enough and being successful long enough to where it's surprising that, oh my god, Iowa was the one that missed the uh the field goal and open the door for Indiana.

Yeah, it's surprising.

So when you're talking about going to Oregon, I like the fact that they have two weeks to prepare.

I think that's an important part.

Everybody is healthy and for the most part, obviously le Bb Junior is out for the season.

But I think that, you know, beating Oregon is going to be a tough task, and Oregon also learned a lot of lessons from watching Iowa.

But Oregon's defense and Iowa's defense, they play a different style.

So you know, I don't expect them to win as we sit here two weeks from the game, but you know, I at this point, you need to start winning some of those level games, and that's where Indiana has come up short, just against Ohio State and Notre Dame last year.

You gotta believe, you gotta believe in Sig a little bit on this thing, because it just the sixteen and two is sixteen and two.

No.

I wish I could cuss, because I would, but I won't.

Hey, and I will tell you that we're on.

YouTube there nobody's getting fine tonight, baby.

Big baddest shit, isn't he?

Like?

You have to believe in what Sig is doing, don't you?

I mean, it's just unbelievable.

Yeah, I will tell you this.

He made a great yeah.

Hell yeah, Hey, you made a great point.

Right.

We don't know like this has never happened.

You know what else has never happened.

I've never called into a show two weeks in a row, Ken today I did.

Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.

Hey, this is going to be a tradition.

I'm calling next or two weeks from now to see what the ceiling is.

All Right, this is Rob from Greenwood.

All right, roight Man, thank you so much.

All Right, buddy, we'll see you how far.

Eight one, two, three, nine, three, twenty six hundred is the number.

I love that.

I love a good new tradition as a history guy.

I love traditions just in general.

And it's a ton of fun.

I bet you a lot of you are like me and a lot of the listeners to where this is still wonderland as far as we're concerned, because that's just how it is.

We got another caller, caller, if you had your name, where you're from and what you got?

Hi, I'm Larry from Peru, Indiana.

I was unable to watch the game.

I listened to it as best I could on the radio, and Don and Buck did not say much at all about screen passes, but they did talk about all of the blitzeinged.

Uh did did the Hoosiers run many screen pass plays?

If they did it, it was a handful.

I'm just trying to think back down and I'm you know about a screen pass.

I'm sure that I saw one.

I know Iowa did a number of times.

But yeah, that's what I thought, too, is go ahead and run a little screen pass and uh and break that up, which is something Illinois was trying to blitz a lot last week and it ended up being a touchdown play.

So yeah, I mean that that is part of it.

And again we didn't see a ton of that, And to me, that's what you can do to kind of let the pressure off when when they're going all out blitz on you.

Well, I just wanted to see what someone who saw the game thought because I kept thinking to myself, why aren't they running screen passes?

And I know those those coaches have forgotten more about ball than I will ever know.

But I couldn't help but think that so well.

But coach coaches do that a lot because you think about the fourth and two play.

I think it was you had Iowa had nine guys in the box, and Sig said that after the game that it was a run call.

That was was a call to play from the sidelines.

It wasn't an r PO.

And if it wasn't an r PO, then that's that makes me feel a little bit better.

But still Iowa was packing the box and Indiana was was, you know, busting into him.

It was like watching Jerry DeNardo going to the line four times against Penn State back in two thousand and two, which is a deep cut there for for a lot of a lot of fans.

But it was also a little frustrating for me to watch what.

Happened on the touchdown play there at the end with the reatt.

I did not get a good call on that on the radio.

Yeah, of course, my internet was blanking out.

Yeah, So so rot was one on one on what when if you're watching on the far side of the field, they brought the blitz It was one on one.

He ran a slant, made the catch, the defender missed the tackle, so Rot went the distance.

It was pretty simple.

He didn't have to beat a lot of people because they had brought a lot of pressure on that one.

Okay, all right, well thanks a lot and go Hoosiers.

I appreciate the call, Larry, take care by now.

Eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is the number.

Jim on the chat says, we didn't deserve to win, but I'm not giving it back.

And I'll tell you what.

As I was watching, I thought, yeah, Indiana's gonna escape with this one.

I don't know if they deserve to win it.

But by that same token, it's not like Iowa bayed themselves in glory in this one.

So what you had was two teams that didn't seem to want to take it, and Indiana got it.

And again that's the important part.

They got the w And it's also a thing to where Indiana made some plays, I mean on defense, they eventually did.

They got some turnovers, got some tip balls that turned into interceptions, and it made a difference.

It made a difference other people wins that.

Aaron says, wins at Kinnick are hard to come by.

I'm pumped up about that, Kyle says, great, gritty win.

Any update on Ponds, I haven't heard anything updated on Ponds.

I came on the air.

I did not see if if Sig addressed it in the post game that I don't know, So I'm sorry I don't have an update on that.

And you know, in terms of Aaron again says, I've seen many highly rated teams in the Big Ten go into Kinnick and struggle and that's the key to me, that's the key is this was an IU team that it just continues to find way to win five and zero for back to back seasons, first time in program history.

Saeg is now sixteen and two as a head coach at Indiana, and that's extraordinary in and of itself.

You got a bye week coming up, and look, Iowa is not does not have a good offensive football team in any way, shape or form.

That is, you know, one of the constants for college football.

But the Hoosiers found a way to win despite you know, the Iowa builds everything on running and defense and wearing teams down, and Indiana made the plays late when they needed to.

Again, missing the field goal gave Indiana a huge boost, lowered the pressure on that final drive, but you still had to perform and then they get the touchdown to Serrat.

You kick the ball off.

Now you got to keep Iowa out of the Endzel and Indiana made the plays that they needed to to walk away with the win.

The last weird kneel down sequence notwithstanding to me, it was it was really This is an important game to me, a really important game because it teaches this team a lot about what it is that they can do.

And you could win games in different ways.

Indiana put up sixty three last week, seventy three the week before.

Today, they score twenty points, they don't score in the third quarter, and yet they walk out with the twenty to fifteen victory on the road in the Big Ten against an Iowa team that's tough to beat every day.

I think that's incredibly important.

Eight one, two, three, nine three, twenty six hundred is the number.

Lines are open, So please pick up that phone, give me a call, throw me something in the chat.

Andy says, this game reminds me of Michigan last year.

Both games, it took a little extra effort to get it done.

Good teams find a way to and the ball bounced our way tonight.

Didn't feel like it for a long time, didn't feel like it at all, but they ended up getting the victory.

And I give you know, Indiana runs for one hundred and four yards, really one hundred and forty four if you take off that safety Roman Hemby fifteen carries for eighty six yards.

He averages five point seven yards a carry.

That is really important because I've wanted to see more from Hemby than what we've seen, and we saw some really tough running tonight.

That kid deserves a ton of credit because he slipped a lot of tackles.

He did a great job.

Kaylon Black eleven carries for thirty eight yards.

It's three and a half yards of pop.

It's solid.

He didn't always have a lot of room to run.

I felt Iowa kind of controlled that line of scrimmage from a defensive standpoint.

Mendoza eight carries for twenty six yards.

Meanwhile, Iowa's bread and Butter is kind of running the ball.

Thirty one carries for ninety two yards.

Today thought Indiana did a good job for the most part.

There were a couple of times that they got gashed, but it wasn't a ton It wasn't a ton.

And let's see, I'm looking at the chunk plays here.

Let's see, Iowa had four plays chunk plays that those are passes of fifteen plus yards or run plays at ten plus yards.

They had four chunk plays offensively in the passing game, three in the rushing game twenty two yards, ten yards, and fourteen yards on that.

So that's pretty solid.

Hey, let's talk about Indiana and their kind of a soft zone defense.

Iowa wasn't trying to stretch the field in any way, shape or form.

What they were doing was just sending guys out into holes in the zone, turning around, making the catch, getting hit and brought down.

And yet Indiana state in that very soft zone even on some fourth down calls, they were still in that soft zone, and Iowa just did what Iowa does.

And so I thought that that was a really really interesting choice by Brian Haynes to stick with that zone even on fourth down.

That was a little bit odd to me.

Jm's checking with asking about Andy back also a twenty to fifteen final against Michigan last year.

I could checked that for you.

Jam, pull that up real quick.

I'm pretty good with this Internet Michigan, Michigan, Michigan, Yes, sir, twenty to fifteen last year in Bloomington.

So that was also an important win, get that win over Michigan.

Beating Iowa.

Who is You know there are years that Iowa's great years Iowa isn't, and so this is isn't a great Iowa team, but it's an important win.

My water bottle, this looks brown.

This looks like I'm just chugging a pint of bourbon and it's not not there yet, but some water with some MEO in it.

So my throat to dry out.

Want callers, I want to talk to you people.

People don't want to hear me.

Talk lines are open.

Eight one to two, three nine three, twenty six hundred is the number.

UH going to try to pull up the video of sig in his postgame press conference, which this audio is always a little bit odd, but we'll see what we can do here.

So without any further ado, here is Kurt Signetti during his postgame press conference at Iowa.

I would like to credit there's the football team.

They've They've UH laid it on the line.

I give our UH players and our coaches a ton of credit for UH you know when you uh.

We made the play when we needed to.

Was back and forth.

Game was a gut check game.

It a lot is good, bad and ugly, more bad and ugly, except uh, you know, defense kept out of the en zone, got a couple turnovers when we needed to partially uh deflect the punt.

A field goal kicker was awesome under pressure, and when we needed to make the play we did.

Uh.

We really struggled on third and short.

They came after us with the glitz and uh, but when we needed to make the play we did on third down against the house blitz again to Surrat broke the tackle.

And it's a great really warm so very proud of.

Team players exacting, is I guess, Kurt, you talked about some of those third and short, fourth and short stops on the run.

Was the option for a pass there for those was it?

Was it a different call with the Serrat touchdown or was that maybe Fernando shifting to something else when he saw that zero blitz?

Yes, Uh no, Fernando didn't do any audible in today and the noise that wasn't the plan.

There were not our pos on those plays.

Uh, yeah, they they came after US and uh we couldn't get a York so and on the last play the Serrat it was they had house blitz to play before.

Maybe they're bringing along when you blow and uh so we went to our uh seven man protection.

Uh we called that m We'd called that three or four times, uh maybe five or six today.

Uh and against Indiana State as well, and house blitzed us.

Uh and uh Rat ran the slant, he went inside, broke a tackle that was where it needed to.

Be and uh he scored.

And somebody's asked me after the game, and I think the TV reporter what we remember from this game.

I'll remember SAP running toward d MS as well.

I remember.

I give our players a lot of credits.

It was a great team, isn't it that I mean you mentioned.

I mean obviously maybe not everything went You're away in the final two minutes, but she was a gut check, you said, and and you got there for a team that hasn't played a lot of those games.

I mean you lopside wins, a couple losses, haven't been in kind of these moments.

How it was important to have that and come through, even if the execution wasn't I've.

Been in a lot of those games.

Uh, like a elong we won eight in a row, and like almost all eight went down the.

Last played game storybook, the story to rule.

We haven't had many of those here, and we didn't have many of those a game either.

So I thought our coaches did a great job our players Nmber when it was game on the line, I is what I could do to keep her by kind of loose asking.

Theybody if they're having fun?

You know?

So it was working for me, be honest with you, and when we needed to play to be made.

And then those who made the throw that's wrap made the catch and defense stuff.

Matt and Rabbi coach.

The final play with Fernando running out.

Into the end zone, was that way you designed or were you were wanting him to go down before that?

Its like he kind of slowed down and sped up and slept down.

Well that was Groundhog Day.

Would you beat that state?

Or first some belt game of JMU.

After they beating Nay and them, we have something called victory delay.

And I gotta get a clarification from the Big ten.

Okay, I would had all three timeouts left.

I think there were sixteen or seventeen seconds left in the game.

So in theory, like if you took a knee, you can only run eight seconds off the clock because they got three time outs left.

So we have something called victory delay where he goes back and he delays delay the leg before he gets hit.

And then it takes me when you're trying to run four or five seconds off the clock, well, I would didn't even rush on the first one, and he went back, and you know, and then the ref blew the whistle and one guy on the sideline gave me one interpretation and the referee gave me a completely different one.

So last play of the game, we had to take the snap from the shotgun and run into the end zone.

He's supposed to go through the en zone.

But he got caught and our quarterback coach channel Woodmer's and I can't understand why he said, no, he didn't need to go all the way into the end zone because the time it was only three seconds left of the clock.

I wasn't taking any chances.

It was a hard fought game.

And get both team's love credit.

Grabbing this out and take us through Serrat's play if you will.

There's sort of Yeah, you know, we've been getting some houseplitz this season.

Started with Odu Kennesaw a little bit Indiana State quite a bit early in the game.

And you know, quarterback coaches and offensive coordinators they hate like seven man slide protection, three man routes, no running backs on checkdowns.

It's just doesn't look real pretty on the blackboard, you know what I'm saying.

But when you get those kind of blitzes, and that's what you got to be in and then freeze guys up to work one on one and gives you time to throw the football.

So we actually had called that play earlier in the game on third down and Surratt didn't win on a slant against press, and we had a quick out the field to go and then the ex has quick slant this one because it was third and seven and not third and two and it was house instead of blit's one.

They were off.

They were off, uh, and we're at one inside and spun and.

Yeah, good play, huge player, think Seth Ryan Fenti, Scott.

We talked a lot of in the beginning of the season about how hard you coached your team, trying to teach them how to win even when you guys were up by a lot.

How much did you see that type of mentality payoff in a game like this?

Yeah, it never goes according to script.

Uh, you know, there's a lot of variables involved, and there's gonna be games like this, and you know, I think when I was hard, I said, you know, mindset's really important.

Everybody's right to play the first game or two or three after that's who's ready to play?

And so.

What was the question?

How much did you see that mentality you know that you were trying to instill about, you know how teaching.

Your team at this point, then you're you're kind of like, as.

You know, when Mendez go on the sideline, they didn't call uh roughing the quarterback.

That really kind of pulled our guys into there right there, and uh, you know, we got a lot of new guys, but we.

Got a lot of good uh a lot of great stuff on this team, and we were testing really hard and.

Uh we fell on the way to put it through it Scott and Jim, is it important to come on the road and play a team like this and you're gonna get this kind of struggle knowing what you will face and the next week and then throughout the rest of the season.

Just well, Uh, I think you know, all wins are great.

You know, we got a week off, coaches have a day off tomorrow.

We're five and zero.

You would much rather.

Win decisively that than put this on tape, cause, let me tell you, we left a lot of players out there in the past game.

And there's some bad stuff on that tape.

But uh, the defense and and teams.

HM.

But I give by Owe a lot of credit and uh, but to go in a hosstile environment, this.

Is a hard place to play.

They got a great home record, they were they were juiced up in this game and come out with a win when when maybe you didn't play your best and love it's because.

Of that huge.

Yeah, Jim, the exactly, Kurt, what what they are the success they were having in the first half for preventing the run when the pass games from getting going.

Looking back quickly, is there some things that maybe could have done?

Play called why is the story?

Well, the first passway through, Uh, the right guard you got beat, got smoked or man rushed sacked, third and two.

And a half and that kind of spooked everybody a little bit, I think, and Uh, you know, guy's gotta trust this technique and not guess what the detach what the three techniques can do.

And you know you came in a half to.

Unloved the stats with any thrown any tasks and the Colt cut they had thrown the seventeenth that last drive theyve and a half seventeen seconds or twenty seven and we found a way to get three points out of that was.

Huge, huge, And then uh after that even I thought things started while the first drive the third quarter, I thought, Okay, here we go.

But then nope, and you know became what it was.

Zach be angry left that one.

When Fernando through that interception late in that fourth quarter, what did you see from him on the sideline afterwards?

How did he react to that?

I didn't see him on the sideline?

Uh afterwards, you know it was another hosplitz and uh he did a good job of escaping.

I thought he was gonna run it, you know, throw it and overthrow Cooper a little bit, got me a nice place six good player.

Uh, I'm just glad he didn't score.

And uh, you know he'd come off on the sideline and uh, you know, maybe there was a fight left on the field.

He knew was left over too.

There were a couple of times in the third quarter where I noticed and talked that he had lowered his eyes.

You know what, she hadn't done anything in a long time.

But you know, I was putting some heat on the quarter and then he was pulling the ball run into you know, put a lot on the guy.

But at the end of the day, passed the test because he made the key playing.

All right, thanks for plating.

So they're sorry, guys.

A one, two, three, nine, three, twenty six hundred is the number.

I was just saying that SIG's attitude with a win.

Yes, you're happy that you got the win, but he also is not sugarcoating the bad.

And can you mentioned that there's a lot of bad on that film, A lot of plays in the passing game that were missed.

Talking about Mendoza having his eyes down uh in the pocket.

Uh.

And those are all learning experiences, all learning experiences along the way that make it make a huge difference.

With that.

So again, all of these things, every one of these wins, say for last week or you know, or maybe even Indiana State.

Uh, there wasn't a lot to maybe learn off of this one.

You're gonna learn off and it's a lot easier to teach off of a win than it is off of a loss.

Eight one, two, three, nine, six hundred is the number.

JM says ken how many reporters are in uh SIG's press conference compared to Tom Allen's final season or two and let's see loss.

Yeah, okay, uh So the people who cover i U football, it's the same crew.

I have.

Let's say there is for for me personally.

We are at Don Fisher obviously has been around for fifty plus years.

Pete ta Premio has been along for a long time.

This is my twenty first season doing this and I am third in the list of tenure for people covering this program and on a daily basis, the people who do it do it every day.

Zach Osterman, Seth twe Jim Coyle, whoever is at the Herald Times.

There's been a number of people at the Herald Times, the IDs Kids, Sammy Jacobs has been there for a while now.

It doesn't change too much.

The interest doesn't change, so there aren't more people now.

That said, going out on the road, you might get a few more people to come out.

I obviously wasn't there.

I'm here in my home studio, which I kicked on a light because otherwise it looked like I was a serial killer sitting in the basement.

Just the fact that they were able to UH, you will draw more attention when you're five and oh or four and oh and ranked number eleven in the country.

When you go on the road, then it makes more sense to send people out there.

But the people who cover I you, there's not a real difference in UH in who's out there and who's not.

Eight one, two, three, nine, three, twenty six hundred is the number.

Lines are open.

We want to hear from you.

I want to hear from you in particular.

You know it is UH looking forward at this year five and oh.

Now, okay, once upon a time, we spend a lot of time talking about where would Indiana find six wins for the second straight year.

You start with five straight wins, h coming up here, you have the bye week, and then at Oregon.

Depending on the time of that Oregon game, we may not have a call in after that Oregon game because I have a family commitment that's very important.

God, somebody who's getting married and want to be a part of that.

So we'll see depending on the time of that game.

But you go to Oregon, you come back, you have Michigan State at home, you have UCLA at home, and then you have back to back road games as we get into November.

But Indiana has set itself up very nicely to have another special year and learning to win in a game, an ugly, gritty game like this is really important.

That bad film that Sig was talking about, that's going to be a positive for Fernando Mendoza.

He's had great days, he's had now a not so great day and there's gonna be a lot to learn from it.

And Mendoza as improved as each week has gone on.

Today his accuracy wasn't where you wanted it to be.

Also, I thought it was interesting that Sig said that, you know, they go in halftime in the look and they'd only thrown the ball eight times and we were like wow.

And the third and two play that Mendoza was sacked and the right guard just got toasted, just absolutely toasted.

Yeah, that'll make you raise an eyebrow, but you also have to stick with what it is that you're going to do.

And that's why I said, I'm just really incredibly baffled by how it is that a good defensive team like Iowa, why you're busy trying to do what they were to just run the ball.

It doesn't make sense to me, It doesn't make any sense at all.

But Indy animated work for him, and so that's really important.

Some of the highlights defensively are Isaiah Jones eight tackles, including four solo Jones and Wyatt combined for Indiana and sack on the day.

The Hooshers six tackles for loss on the day, and this against an Iowa team that I felt their offensive line did a pretty damn good job today.

With that, Aidan Fisher was active, had a couple of quarterback hurries, which we were talking in the press box last week about the difference between a quarterback hurry and pressures and exactly, and it seems pretty subjective.

Seven tackles for more, five solo stops for Fisher, seven tackles, five solo stops, more, seven tackles for solo stops.

You had the big interception by Farrell more all So got an interception as well.

He is not credited with it.

The stat crew gave it to EJ.

Williams, which obviously he didn't intercept anything.

He is a wide receiver, but they wear the same number, so there was an issue with that that'll get cleaned up.

But more had a very important interception, and it's really great that he was able to at the very least, at very least got cleared for the rest of the season.

That's behind him now he doesn't have to worry about that.

That's a pressure off of him.

Justin asks how are you feeling against Oregon?

We talked about this a little bit earlier on the show with a caller, but you can't count Indiana out of any of these things now.

I mean, we're at that point, guys.

Sixteen and two is sixteen and two.

So do I expect them to go on the road and knock off Oregon?

H It'll be a tough, tough thing to do, But do you think sig can't pull something together.

It's gonna be a tough one.

You're gonna have to play a really good game with that.

But they're gonna have every opportunity.

They're going to need to play like they did against Illinois and not like they did against Iowa to get away with that, but look, I don't put anything uh past this.

Matt asked, how does the Iowa O line and D line stack up compared to Oregon and Penn States.

I'm gonna be real.

I'm gonna be real with you, Matt.

I haven't looked at Oregon's uh D line and Penn State's D line this year.

That time will now come with Oregon, but with Penn State, I haven't even seen Penn State play this year.

So that's that's, you know, just being honest with you on that been focused on Indiana's opponents.

With all that, uh, Kurt's as, we definitely got tested across all phases tonight came up strong.

Two weeks of work to do, Yeah, And that's exactly if you're going into a bye you got plenty to work on.

It's easier to work on things coming off a win.

And the Hoosiers did just that.

So I think that that is a a huge positive because you could build off of it two weeks to prepare for Oregon.

Oregon is a team that let's see here what I could find out about Oregon.

And at least they're they're rushing stats.

The Hoosiers, by the way, still lead the Big Ten in rushing yards.

Oregon is third with one yards.

They have obviously this Penn State game, uh to go.

But you know Oregon's going to be tough.

There's a reason that they're ranked as highly as they are.

Eight one, two three, nine, six hundred is the number.

Lines are open.

I'll even give you a last call.

I want to hear from you, guys.

It's Saturday night, it's a road game.

You guys are watching probably Oregon and Penn State.

Now I respect that, but want to hear from you if you have anything otherwise, we'll we'll wrap this up pretty soon.

But Indiana, uh god, what an important game for the Hoosiers.

Just a hugely important game because they were able to come out and and win the thing, win ugly, and did it by playing a completely different game than they have played to this point.

It was a smash mouth game.

It was a matter of you know, putting people on the ground, getting hits.

I don't want to say Indiana benefited.

That's the wrong, wrong situation.

I certainly hope the Iowa quarterback Gronkowski Gronowski rather not Gronkowski.

That's a whole different thing.

Mark Rodowski went out with the knee injury.

Hopefully he's going to be okay.

You know you're being cautious in that situation.

That kid went nineteen to twenty five for one hundred and forty four yards.

The nineteen completions for one hundred and forty four yards.

Again, as a journalism major at IU, not a math major.

But let's see when forty four divided by nineteen is seven and a half yards per completion, So those were all just very short passes.

Indiana was right there to put guys on the ground when they did that.

In case you're wondering, by comparison, Mendoza per completion was seventeen point nine yards, so Iowa was peppering them with the short passes.

At least Indiana was there and making hits and getting guys to the ground after they made those receptions.

That is a huge difference between this Indiana team now and the Indiana team that we've seen in the past, because they do a really good job of if somebody makes a catch, they're brought down pretty quickly.

Had a couple mistackles today, but I thought Indiana's defensive backfield did a nice job of getting guys to the ground after they made catches.

Wasn't wild about the scheme at all times, but they did a very nice job with that.

We need to talk a little bit too about Elijah Surat, and we've talked about his long touchdown pass touchdown reception on the day.

Six carries one hundred and thirty two yards touchdown ninety two yards after the catch.

Sarat's ability to shake loose after he makes a catch changes this offense.

It really does.

And what it does is it's gonna it forces defenses to swarm toward him, especially if you're looking his way.

Now why is that important Because if you on your scouting report, you know that Sarat can get those yards after catch.

So if Mendoza's looking his way as a defender, naturally you're gonna start to cheat a little bit that way.

And so at times you could use Serat as a decoy a little bit to where you're looking this way, and then all of a sudden you could cut back this way and might open things up for Cooper, for Williams, for Henby, whoever's in the backfield.

So that in and of itself, sometimes you have a receiver who's good enough with that, and the kid's gonna play Sundays in the near future.

I think Mendoza has has a great future on Sundays as well, and his presence, Sarat's presence on the field changes what the Hoosiers are able to do.

Justin on the chat says, I know Iowa's O line was rated number one in the country and they did a good job of controlling that line of scrimmage.

The Hoosiers didn't get a lot of pressure in the backfield, but in the run game, Iowa averaged three yards of carry, so the defense was was solid.

Indiana's linebackers, I felt, had a really nice game and that is something you could continue to build on.

Iowa did not reach one hundred yards on the ground.

Time of possession, especially in the first half was a little bit shocking because Iowa really held the ball.

The Hoosiers defense did a poor job of getting off the field.

But for the game, Iowa just six of sixteen on third down and Indiana six of fifteen on third down, oh three on fourth down for the Hoosiers, which isn't great, but Indiana five and oh for the second straight season, first time in IU history that that is something that has been accomplished.

A huge win for Indiana, gives them one win away from being bull eligible.

And to have this victory, Mendoza still hasn't taken a knee.

I'll just say that as my voice cracks.

Mendoza still hasn't taken a knee.

That pisses me off.

And I know that.

You know, there's there's explanations for the rules.

Not wild about that.

On Twitter, THEO says, well, they they hot to get rid of the hand signals because the defense was timing it up every single play.

We have to come up with, like guys on to go on two or three instead of hand signals.

The thing with that is it's a silent count, and so yeah, you could time it up a little bit.

That's the disadvantage of being on the road.

But that's just part of the equation.

Every team has to deal with it.

Illinois had to deal with it last week.

So when you're in a loud environment, it's difficult to have that delay and still have everybody fire off the ball at the same time, which is why you don't see quite as much of fall starts and things like that in a loud situation.

When you're going silent like that, But twenty to fifteen is your final.

The Hoosiers five and zero, top of the big ten.

Let's see who's some of those top twenty five scores for today.

Some of these finals, what we got.

LSU lost, so it was they won't drop far enough to let Indiana move off.

Well, let's see if there are any other upsets there in the top twenty five.

Florida State lost, so there's a chance for Indiana to move up into the top ten.

Winning on the road at Iowa is impressive and being able to do that, I think is something that the Hoosiers can build off of.

They got a tough road ahead of them, there's no question.

I mean, you're talking about Oregon and then Michigan State and UCLA two out of the next three at home.

That's a positive.

You have the break here, but the toughest tests left for the Hoosiers on their schedule Oregon in two weeks and then at Penn State November eighth.

Both of those games are situations where you're going to have to play about as well as you can to pull off wins on the road.

We'll see if the Hoosiers are able to do that.

They did not play their best game at Iowa, they still walked away with the win and learned a lot and have a lot of opportunities ahead of them.

I appreciate all the callers and I thank everybody on the chat, but we're gonna go ahead and wrap it up for this victory.

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