So I'm in the room with Barack Obama and I want to do one more video.

I take out my Mitch McConnell glasses and I go, Barack, good to show you again, and he looks at me and goes, no, we can't do that.

That is giving me serious PTSD.

Put those away.

That's freaking me out.

Hi.

Everyone, I'm Katie Couric and this is Next Question.

It's that time of year everyone, A new season of Next Question is beginning, and we thought it would be fun to have my friend Matt friend come by because he's having a moment or is it just because he had a moment with me recently at the US Open.

Take a listen.

Hey Matt, Katie, I'm I am.

This is like a make a wish.

I really am excited to be.

Here, except you're not dying.

No I'm not, thankfully not.

But this is iconic.

I'm in being interviewed by you.

This is a dream come true.

Thank you for having me.

I haven't been this excited to get interviewed since Charlie Rose interviewed me with his towel on and that was quite the experience.

But we'll talk about that later.

Well, you know, every time I listen to you to speak in your normal voice, I'm like, who is he impersonating?

Isn't that funny?

This one is me?

Which is hard to believe.

Sometimes I'm confused myself.

Who did you have a great speaking voice?

Matt?

I remember who was it?

Oh?

You were with Seth McFarlane.

McFarlane at an award show.

I think you were interviewing him and you said he was your idol and he said, why isn't it Peter Jenny's With a voice like that.

You do have an incredibly strong voice, and you could be a newscaster, don't you think.

You saying this is outrageous to me, Katie Kirk to look at me and say that I could be a newscaster.

I mean I do have resting broadcaster voice.

Yeah, I'm nice.

I'll be on a date and I'll be like, I will have the gaspacho right after commercial.

So that's kind of my I always sound like I'm delivering major breaking news.

Well you do, you do.

You have a great, great speaking voice.

But you're only twenty seven years old yet, and you are in a role.

Although I've heard about you for quite a while now from my husband John Molner, who also hails from Chicago.

Yes, you're from Lincoln Park.

You grew up in Lincoln Park.

He grew up in Highland Park.

And we should full disclosure.

I mean one of the reasons I'm talking to you.

You're an Eppo baby for the first time.

Yeah, exactly.

And John and your dad, I guess knew each other as kids.

Talk about this connection.

Yeah, my dad grew up with John.

And then there was also Richard Marx and rich Appel.

These are some of the Chicago luminaries in my mind, right, Richard Mark, Richard Mark's legendary singer, rich Ad Pell, execut producer of Family Guy.

So it's very interesting connections.

And then there was Harvey Weinstein, but we don't talk about that one.

Yeah, Oh my god, your dad did they Did he go to school?

Yes?

Did he go to high school North Shore Country Day?

Yes?

Yeah, it's very sounds very preppy.

It does.

Yeah.

Really, how small the world is?

Yeah?

So John Mulner has been telling me about you, Matt and how funny you are, and showing me he's like your videos.

He is, I know, are you going to give him ten percent?

Maybe?

Maybe?

But I'm fascinated by how you got into this line of work, Matt, did you?

And I remember interviewing Barbara Streisan once, and I love to find out from people who are kind of found their thing when they first realized they were good at that thing.

And she told me, I think growing up in Brooklyn, she was in the lobby of her apartment building, and I guess there was a banister and the acoustics were really intense, sort of in this lobby, and she sang, and she realized, Oh, I sound good, isn't that.

It's just so interesting to me where you have these gifts and you suddenly realize that you have them.

So when did you notice that you could really do a good job of impersonating people.

I was four years old and I watched Austin Powers seriously, so I watched that movie and then I started to mimic Fat Bastard and gold Member and Doctor Evil.

And then basically it just began with me trying to make my parents and their friends laugh, and then my teachers, and then I would do my grandfather Don Levinson.

Hello, how you doing.

That's him, Yeah, hugely popular in the comedy clubs.

And then it really does start with trying to make my parents laugh.

And then I'm just turned twenty seven, like you mentioned, and I'm a product in my generation.

So I grew up with YouTube, and through that I discovered old comedians.

I loved Don Rickles and Johnny Carson and Richard Pryor.

And make sure you're not seventy two twenty seven.

I'm one hundred years old.

I don't know what it is now.

What is it about those guys that when you watched them, people like Don Rickles, who I interviewed once and all he did was insult me the whole time.

And by the way, I got to be on the I mean, I'm.

Your own cushion.

I was on the teach shows.

Okay, Katie Kirk, how you after the show?

On the program this evening is Katie kurrk She's on.

I'm sorry now I'm getting.

I have to say, that was the thrill of a lifetime insane.

Were you attracted to him?

Was I attracted to him because a lot.

Of people there's a sexual charisma to him?

You know?

Not really, although I do.

I did find him well according to moment.

We like him a little bit younger.

I would say, sorry, that wasn't me again, well, it'll come out later, but I did.

I mean I was.

I was almost too an off into attraction.

That's how I feel right now.

Yeah, I'm not attracted to you, but I'm in awe of you.

You're not attracted.

It's both, No, it's both.

Uh.

But yes, I was really thrilled to be on the Tonight Show.

And So what was it about some of these older guys or really legends in comedy that that appealed to you when you watch them.

I think number one, it was the era.

I mean, show business just seems so exciting at that time.

There were I guess fewer people doing it seemingly, and I think just that era of the sixties and the rat Pack and Sinatra and Vegas and just the importance of Late Night, but specifically the Tonight Show format in general in terms of breaking new stand up comedians.

And I also loved that that show, specifically Carsons Tonight Show, it was less about a promotional vehicle and more about generating authentically hilarious moments.

Frank Sinatra and Don Rickles were on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show, and Rickles tells a story of how he was younger at a restaurant.

He asks Sinatra, who he sow at a restaurant to impress the girl he was with.

So he said to Frank, can you come over and say hi to this girl helped me out?

And then Sinatra comes over to the table and says, hey, don how are you?

And Rickles says, can you see I'm eating Frank and then he turns him away.

And it was just but that's like one little story of why I loved that.

Era jo and as something was sort of so pure about that time, where you didn't feel like they were making fun that much at someone else's expense, Right, It just was a kinder, gentler era comedy vicious.

Oh well he.

Could, You're right, But now I feel like that was his stick, you know, like he was he was like, what was it the insult Dog?

What he was?

The merchant of venom they call them.

Yeah, but what was the.

Name of the Triumph?

Yeah?

Try It was like Triumph the Insult Dog before Triumph existed?

Right?

Yes, So anyway, so you started impressing your parents and making them laugh.

Can you still do a lot of Austin powers people.

A little bit?

Yeah?

I just did a movie actually last week with Seth Green, and so I was getting to do a lot of doctor Evil in my fantasies.

Okay, well, can you do a little of doctor I didn't.

Spend six years in evil medical school to be called mister thank you very.

Much in himself.

Yeah, that's going to be tough.

You can, really, I got to figure it out.

You can't do Mike Myers's Often Powers.

It's been so long.

Do I make you harm?

Yeah?

Baby, I gotta figure we'll circle back to it.

One thing you might not know about me, Matt is I did have a cameo in Austin Power's Gold Member.

I played a prison guard.

I had a unibrow, and I had to stop Frau and Doctor Evil from making out in prison.

And my big line it was like.

Me stopping you and Moelner from making out the us open.

It's really hard for us to keep our hands off.

That was no.

You want to know what my line was?

What was the line?

Well, first of all, they were like making out like crazy to that song Evil Woman anyway, and I had this sort of polyester prison guard outfit on, as I said, with a unibrow, and I walked up and this was my line.

Time's up.

And that was it.

But Mike Myers was so fun to work with because we did some mirror exercises and he's like, I'm the kitten.

You're a kitten.

I'm a kitten.

You're a kit to.

As in costume and character like yeah.

He was, Yes, he was so funny, and that was That was one of the highlights of my career.

Matt, that is so much for anchoring the CBS Evening News.

But anyway, I can't believe you don't do Austin Powers anything.

Now.

I know you're really see this is Katie, she breaks the news.

You know, I talk about this movie all the time.

I haven't done that one in a long time.

Okay, well that's okay.

You're pretty good at work.

In my mind, I'm not gonna make that joke.

Okay, good, Okay, okay, I have a filter.

Go ahead, Okay, good.

So you obviously started doing Trump, which was like mana from heaven.

Right, yeah, in a way.

So when you start to do an impression or learn how to really have someone's mannerism since speaking voices, how do you do it?

Do you watch videos them?

My sister called me a glorified parrot.

Recently really so, I mean, do you do you immerse yourself?

I do?

I mean I watched so much content, like, for instance, I would watch this podcast on YouTube.

I spend so much time in front of my iPad my computer watching again old talk shows, YouTube clips, and I watch a lot of you know, television.

But also there's also has to be substance behind what I'm saying, right So, It's one thing to get a voice down or to get the essence of somebody down, but the writing actually has to matter.

Like when we did the video that in the case of Trump together, I think part of the highlight was maybe the substance of what I was saying right now, It's so true, you have to get what they're gonna say, right so, but a lot of it has spent watching.

Then I'll walk down the street as.

Like I walk down the street as King Choles, and it just happens, you know, King Charles comes out of me.

I don't know why, but I just I con told my body and I just look at the clothes and I think it's great to be the King.

I don't know, it just it just comes out.

It's weird, But you're right, I think you have to be smart and kind of not only impersonate the voice, but you have to truly get in character.

Yes, you do, right, which in my case because I love the political stuff.

So it's also an awareness of exactly what is happening in our world and being able to be super tuned in like Peter Jennings and just tune into what people are talking about.

And I also want to know who's relevant, you know, like I do a lot of older impressions, but like what like I don't think Rodney Dangerfield is really lowered beel from the network.

You've got to get mad.

You've got to get mad.

Sorry, that's weird, h I love, I want you to get up now.

Yeah, but say I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore, you know, Like that's weird.

But then I look at who's younger, like Timothy Shalame, Austin Butler.

Those are actors that are people are talking about more.

But also you, I mean you get there sort of as you just did with Prince Charles.

You do get kind of the way they move their bodies and contort themselves.

For example, there are some physical one like for I do want impression to seduce women.

This is how I get laid.

And I'm gonna warn you, Katie.

I know what every.

Woman and it's making me hot already.

Well, every woman in America I found wants to have sex with this man.

Do it?

Wait?

Wait?

Wait is this well this is a Kentucky Schenator, Mitch McConnell.

Let me begin by stating what a privilege it is to be aware.

Katie.

Today, I've observed your journalistic questions, whether it's to share a pair, letting, or any number of illuminaries in our society today.

You always know how to get the best.

Oh you're having that moment, Mitch, come back, come back, mitche.

Sorry I stopped functioning, but did it work?

You're right?

Yes, there there are physical ones.

Yeah, and also like I know, like when you do Timothy Chalomy you kind of hold your.

Rommie Allix another.

He was just at the US Open.

Yeah, Bohemian Rhapsody won the ostre.

He just right.

He's always like squeezing in his face, like Katie is SENI delight.

It's creepy.

But then when I'm near a microphone, I want to get deeper.

I want to go Howard stern On those.

Let me ask you this.

You're a beautiful woman.

You've been at the Tapa show business, which celebrity goes has had the worst breath?

I need you to tell me that right now.

Who have you just been?

This guy is disgusting.

Who is it, Katie?

You you're Timothy shallowmy Timothy.

Well, it's such an honor to be here with Katie Couric.

She's one of the greats of our time.

And uh, you're making me laugh.

Yeah, I don't know.

I'm nervous because you have a young staff here who really knows what he sounds like.

Well, I think it was Austin Butler is in a new movie.

Tell me about it.

Well, he we had an interesting moment on the carpet of the Golden Globes because he still sounds like Elvis.

He's from Anaheim and he dogs like this.

It was such an honor to be playing the role of Elvis and bez Lerman's Elvis Presley.

Katiekirk is a great legend of journalism and I love so.

I'm like, dude, you are from California?

Is fuddy still got the us still going?

Yeah?

Yeah, it's crazy.

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So let's talk about Donald Trump, because I think, right now.

What do you want to talk about Katie?

She's a beauty, right, I Like, when you go.

She is one of the great beauties.

I will tell you she looks fantasic.

Go ahead, ask the question.

Well, go ahead, I mean tell me.

About like you want to talk about his person, like the way he speaks, the way he his mannerisms, the kind of expressions uses, the way he pauses, the way he kind of you know when yeah, tell me all about it.

So there's a I say this in my standup, But if you want to sound like him, to accurately do a Trump impression.

You just have to mispronounce big words whenever you're talking.

So I was imagining Trump summarizing the plot of Harry Potter, and he would just be there was a boy wizard named Terry Pooter befriended these lefty loons, Rune and hermany they were pigs, went to this school.

Who wats terrible?

The headmaster Elbows stumbled, probably gay, okay, and that's him doing that.

And then he proved my thesis because he called hamas hummus, which was interesting, and I just wanted him to keep naming random foods like hummus needs to be destroyed.

The leader of Hummus, Baba Ganush, is a nasty guy.

It's the worst invasion since Tika Massala in the nineties.

Tika Massala is also the name of JD.

Vance, his wife's sister Ushe Tika Massala Vance.

We love the Indians, great people, right.

So the thing about Trump is I use it, I like when you go.

I use him to say things I can't say as myself because any other person would be their career would end.

Right.

But so like whenever politically incorrect.

Well, this is a good thing for your audience.

So whenever you're frustrated or in a situation where you just you can't find a way to release your anger, say it is Trump, and you might even win a third term.

Like I was on a plane last week, very upset with my seat because while I was sitting next to a fat pig of a woman.

Honestly, she was terrible.

She looked like a combination of Chris Christie and Rosie o'donald.

But I didn't say it.

Trump said it, So it's completely fine.

Now again, it's not me saying it, you know.

That's the other thing.

I go on Fox News, I go on Katie Kirk, I go on MSNBC, and I remind everybody I'm just repeating exactly what he has said.

So people, are you making fun of him?

How could you say that?

Well, the President said it, so I'm using his own words.

But he had never said that.

Did he say Rosie o'donald and Chris Christy had a baby?

Not exactly like that.

That's me merging terminology or merging his words.

But he's had a lot of words for both of those two people.

Now I know that you've never met Donald J.

Trump.

I have not, and would you like to meet him?

And if so, would you do your impersonation for him?

Wow?

Katie Kirk has great questions.

Well, I'm supposed to be putin at Kremlin next week, so no, I'm not, but I like, can you do this?

Sucks?

My sin War meeting got canceled.

But we're supposed to ry Hanuka again.

Yeah, wah, you're coming over.

No but uh no, but really So I met Obama.

Uh and that was an incredible experience.

That's the closest I've ever gotten to being like Katie Couric.

So I got to do my Obama next to Obama.

I got to sing Amazing Grace with him, amay Ze Grace.

It was great.

He was a good sport.

Where where was that?

That was in Chicago?

And then I debated him as Trump and that was just it was incredible an event.

So it was ahead of the DNC, and his team reached out I think they were trying to get a get out the vote thing, and then they reached out to me and I think a couple other people, and then I got to go at a hotel.

We met at a hotel in Chicago and there were security, but you wouldn't really know he was there.

And then I go up like fifteen floors.

I'm waiting in this private area, and then probably forty five minutes pass and then I can hear that voice.

It almost sounds like the TV is on.

And then I walk into the room and there's coming in so it's very well lit, and it looked like a mirage.

It looked like I felt like I was hallucinating.

It didn't feel real.

And then Obama's just standing there and his assistant is off to the side.

He goes, Matt, how are you what are we going to do today?

Thank you get in here, and then he goes, Michelle, and I are watching some of your videos.

It's very funny, and I'm like freaking out like it's it was crazy.

And then I go, well, I want to do you next to you.

So the camera starts to roll and I go, hey, everybody, this Barack Obama and I am here with Then he looks and goes, actually, I'm Barack Obama, and then I basically did three of his biggest moments right next to him, and I go.

Tonight.

More than two hundred years after a former colony won the right to determine its own destiny, the task of perfecting our union moves.

I memorize his entire twenty twelve acceptance speech, and then I did him saying that's what I do when he made a three point shot, and then I sang amazing grace and it was just like surreal.

And then we debated as Trump at Obama and I said, you know, I have a much better golf game than you, actually, Barack, I do, and he said, well, how about those crowd sizes?

Take a look at those.

And then the video ended, and then I tried to do Mitch McConnell and he actually looked at me.

So I'm in the room with Barack Obama and I want to do one more video.

I take out my Mitch mcconnald glasses and I go, Barack, good to show you again.

And he looks at me and goes, no, we can't do that.

That is giving me serious PTSD.

Put those away.

That's freaking me out.

So that was surreal.

Now meeting Trump, you know, I have not met him.

I think he's a Well that's the thing.

If I met Trump, I would want to do exactly what I did with Obama, which is I would want to do what he does, and I'm not sure he could necessarily handle it, because again, I would say to him, you look a little bit like a fat pig.

I would say, you're a little bit a little overweight, you're a little heavy.

Shit, the makeup is drifting off.

We call you, uh, just tweak.

You're a weak guy, You're tired.

I might ask about the bruise on his hand.

The bruise, it's bruising.

It's terrible.

But I don't know, like, I don't know.

I don't know if he could handle it comedically, you know.

And maybe if you if you didn't call him fat, maybe if you could.

But but but but what would he do?

See I get into the mind of the person.

You think he wouldn't do that.

Oh no, he That's what I'm saying.

I like to do to do justice to the character I hear you.

All I'm doing, as I remind audience, is I'm just repeating stuff that he he would say.

But obviously it would be tough to envision myself actually calling him fat next to him.

But uh, if given the opportunity to meet him, it'd be It'd be an interesting question because look what happened to Jimmy fallon not too pretty with the with the hair tussling thing.

Because we're in a very divided society, and I've been kind of trying to thread the needle a little bit, because if you go into the lions Den like that, then it's a different it's a different level.

I don't know if there's an offer, I guess we'll, as he would say, we'll take a look at it.

We'll take a look at it.

How about Joe Biden.

I know that he's but is he more difficult?

But I did meet him.

No, what's it like impersonating him?

Well, you have to change with the volume of your voice, right, Yeah, Sometimes he'll say something really that and then yeah.

He'll lean like it's no joke.

We'd beat medicare, come on.

I was doing a bit on Biden.

He was more difficult to do.

I think that's why he was less comedically tapped into by people.

But I did a bit on Biden that I was always amazed that he was eating children's desserts, such such serious moments, like he was always eating ice cream, And toward the end of his campaigner report goes President Biden, when will there be a ceasefire, and he was holding a dripping scoop of ice cream.

Then he took a bite out of the cone, but the ice cream fell on the floor, so he just took a bite out of the air.

So he was like, seize far Monday.

Ice Cream's on the floor, And I'm thinking, there's never been a time in American history where an elected official has eaten a children's dessert like this.

You know, have you listened to Josh Sapiro and how much he sounds pencil.

He's like a Jewish Obama.

But Newsom kind of has a little bit of that.

Well can you do?

Gavin Newsom is kind of like Will Arnette from SmartLess, the actor from Smartletts.

Gavin news Donald Trump is a bully, he's a fraud, He's a narcissist.

Yeah, but Will's over here.

But but Will is super real Will.

I don't think Gavin is quite as rad Will interesting.

I don't think just like when Gavin's wife speaks Spanish, I find it funny very white woman or not so.

Jennifer Cheba, I'm like, I love the she has like sort of an accent to it.

It's it's incredible, But he's a good looking guy.

Yeah Yeahvin Newsome, Yeah he's got he's got, he's got that pat Riley here.

He does right, he's slick.

Yeah yeah, And I guess that's part of the criticism of him.

But a question for you, Katy, Yes, yes, of course, I've wanted to ask you this for a long time.

What is internet?

Ah, this was nineteen ninety four.

Exactly what's the world Wide Web?

We should go an updated version of this, Katie.

What is only fans?

What is it?

Alison?

Alison, can you tell me what OnlyFans is?

What is that?

How does it work?

They upload their body onto it?

How does it tap in?

Alison?

Does it tap in?

Well?

I did.

I did make a VMW commercial with Brian Gumpbell making fun of us not knowing what the internet was.

But you have to remember that was nineteen ninety four.

Let's talk about some of the other people that you've done, because I know you.

You're good at Bill Maher and you did something with him.

I did, wait and I'd love how you kind.

Of do that?

Oh oh yeah a lip smack?

Right?

Yeah.

And finally, new rule, if you're going to do a podcast, make it Katie couric.

Okay, Oh, I used to have the biggest crush on you.

I still do.

Here's what's wrong about the modern left.

They're not the modern right.

And here's what's wrong about the modern right, They're not the modern left.

Okay, that's real time.

What did he think of your impersonation because you did it next to him?

Yeah, you always.

I don't hear it.

I just I don't hear it.

You got to work on it.

Is that what he said?

A little too flamboyant.

Okay, but you.

Are on Howard Stern a lot.

Yeah, how it's been great.

And so Howard gets a kick out he does, right, he does, And so I know you did it earlier, but give me a little more, Howard.

Well, let me ask you this.

I mean, Katie's a beautiful woman, right, your a beauty.

You're a beauty.

Would you say your top three sexiest news anchors of all time?

Because Robin and I are attracted you.

Robin, you like Katie, she likes you.

She likes you, But I do like the eighties nineties.

Howard.

He's a little dirtier than.

He's Yeah, you know, yeah, go ahead, give it to us.

Give it to you.

Oh, Jesus.

Okay, are you a good musician.

I'm just curious because people I think who have this kind of ear I do like he said, Yeah, do you play any instruments?

Not no, but I sing a little bit.

I do edit with Michael Boublay.

That was I did Michael bl and I did Luke Bryan as Luke Bryan.

Oh that's funny, So do Michael Boublay because you can probably sing like him.

If I love Michael Bouble.

Luke Bryan and Bouo Blair are my two favorite singing ones.

Okay, I'll do it.

So Luke Brian I met her, he said, mad, if you want to do me, you got to do one thing.

You got to mix golomer Pole and Elvis and you got to bland them together real todd.

Then you get country girls.

Shake it for me, Now, shake it for me.

So thank you so much, Luke Big Kermit the frog vibe out of this.

Yeah, come on now.

Ronda Santus twenty eight and we always try to forget that you brought Ronda Santa's on stage.

Oh, State of Florida.

Welcome to the Free State of Florida.

Sorry for a smile there uh, and then Boublay, well, let me miss it.

Hello friends, Michael Buble, I'm here with Katie Kuric O the Tree of Life.

I just picked me a Kuric baby birds flying High, you know how Katie fee Sorry that was a little mini one.

Wasn't terrible?

Was it?

No?

It was good?

Not great.

Oh I liked it.

I liked it.

I think I think I sang with him.

Oh God went no.

This is the problem with doing Katie's podcast.

No, it was an Austin Powers.

He's saying with that.

Okay, no, no, no, no.

So David Foster really discovered Michael Boublay, and I think Michael came on the Today Show and we sang, and then I go and spoil it.

Up by saying something like the Today Show was actually my first TV appearance really remotely over zoom?

Was it during COVID?

Oh?

I was going to say, my childhood at home?

So what did you do?

Fifth hour with uh?

Isn't that right?

In the fourth hour?

It was on the fortieth hour with Hoda and Jenna.

Yeah, I'm just glad you haven't asked me what I'm reading.

Sarah balin question, what are you reading stupid?

Was that, Eric?

Can we just talk with it?

I mean, she wants to be the vice president of the United States, So what are you reading?

What?

No?

I think when I had paper, Matt, I said, well, I was interested, you know, just as I'm interested in when you realized you could impersonate people, or Barbara Streisan realize she could sing.

I was interested in what had shaped her political ideology.

Yes, So the.

Question was what newspapers and magazines do you read on I think on a regular basis that have helped shape your worldview?

This is in credible, asked me the question.

I'm so excited about that.

Really, Yeah, go ahead, Governor Palin.

Yes, what newspapers and magazines do you read on a regular basis that have help shape your world view?

Q andon?

Truth?

Social and q Andon?

Yeah?

You bet the way to do it, you bet you.

I could never understand why she didn't say I first and foremost, I read all the publications about Alaska because my my responsibility is to my constituents.

Yes, as governor.

And then of course I read every major newspaper in the country.

And I'm a I like to I'm just so intellectually curious.

I like to google everything, and I so my sources are really wide and varied.

It's it is interesting to look back on these iconic interviews that you've conducted and I think how people answered questions in that.

I hope I don't look back at this and I'm not running for anything, but I mean, yeah, but you you do have a way you can lock in, like for me if I were to answer that question.

I truthfully, I'm consuming like everything because I want to know what all people are thinking.

Because if you're in your echo chamber eco echo chamber, uh then you then you you really, I think you lose a lot you miss out on because especially as a touring comedian like I want to be able to make different audiences laugh and that's the challenge.

So I want to see what Peter and Steve Doocey are thinking.

And I want to see sure you did yes in Washington.

Unbelievable, of course, you see unbelieve It's just it's out of control.

It's it's unbelievable.

Uh well it's just your ledge.

I'm so old and I think you are the.

Ship, Katie Kirk is the ship.

That's what the podcast should have been called.

Yeah, you know, what maybe we'll remake the.

Best, but but I want to I want to be able to talk to a variety of people.

So, I mean, I watched so much MSNBC, I watched I want Fox News, I watch CNN, I watch Katie Kurk, I watch it just all pops up, and I think it's just also a generational byproduct, like it's all coming at me on TikTok and on YouTube.

But also obviously reading the failing New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, so.

They're not taking it easy on President Trump.

No, No, Emma Tucker, the new editor in chief, I think has really done some great reporting on Trump.

But you know, getting back to Sarah Palin, I know, I always sort of thought if she I mean, she could have answered the question in two ways.

She could have talked about what she reads, but she could have also said, I was really influenced by Ronald Reagan and his speeches government, you know, or William F.

Buckley was really you know, and believe it or not, Katie, I've been very influenced by the Bible because a lot of my sort of life philosophy is fundamentally in the Bible and the life lessons that it imparts or something.

Right.

Well, what's amazing about this moment in particular, and this relates back to Trump, is that in the case of Sarah Palin, that was a moment that arguably was a defining moment for her that interview, Whereas with Trump, he's had so many of those moments and we don't even remember it.

For example, President or mister Trump, he wasn't president yet.

What is your favorite Bible verse?

Well, I know the Bible very well.

There's like so many, but there's just a lot of them, actually, and I'm a big fan of it.

Honestly, I wrote it, but I'm a big fan of it, and it's tough to pick.

And like we write, he's a master and not answering question Like if you ask me a very serious question, I guarantee you, like I could do it as him in the way that he never does it.

That's why I want to debate him, actually, because all these Republicans they tried to challenge him, and I'm thinking I'm the only one that could do it.

Well, let me ask you again, mister President, do you worry about developed?

Look it up beautiful When she asked the question, Look at that smile such a and she smells great too.

She's a beauty.

Look at her.

Are you worried about forging such a close personal relationship with Vladimir Putin?

Given such an animosity that he.

You have animosity towards me, Katie?

Go ahead?

How do you feel?

How do you I mean, do you worry about that?

And really kind of changing the global order as it has stood since the end of World War two?

Well, I said, I said, a couple of days ago, I said, Vladimir, you're going to have to end at Vladimir, you're going to put this thing doing.

So you got to talk to these people, Katie.

If you don't talk to them, then you're in real trouble.

You're in real trouble.

So you got to talk to them.

I know him very well.

He said, we're going to end this very quickly.

It's going to be very easy.

We're going to end it quickly.

I want to go to heavan, Katie.

Do you feel like he's playing youdent talking?

Men are talking.

Okay, he's playing all of us, but he's not gonna play me because we're gonna end it beautifully and very bigly.

And well, that's why we're getting the DC patrol at.

We got the patrol at.

We're going to look at what's happening, these bigger problems.

They said my health was a problem.

You know who's healths AP problem?

Put his health SIP problem.

Okay, not my health.

I'm in perfect health and you know it.

Fake news.

Next question, Sorry, go ahead, I'm in character.

Let's keep talking.

You see, he didn't say anything right right.

In fact, I just watched a clip where somebody asked a question and he just started talking and rambling and he didn't answer it at all.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's weird.

It's very weird.

But that's why it'd be interesting for me to debate him, because like if I met him as him, i'd want to meet him in that format because I think I can do him like he could do himself.

Yeah, and I think I can get under his skin.

You've done such a great job with your interviews.

But I've always wondered that, like why aren't people challenging him, but also on the democratic side, like just doing what he does, Like the whole one they go go high thing was always so stupid to me, like you just got to go right back at him.

Well, Gavin Newsom is doing that.

I just saw Ron Brownstein on Bloomberg talking about this new breed of politician called a confrontational centrist, and he was saying that he thought that was the best way to beat Trump, to not go further to the left but kind of take him on but not lose your sort of centrists.

Is this breaking news?

No?

No, no, But I you.

Know, I would say eight years ago they should have done that.

Yeah.

But that's why I would have loved to have seen an Obama Trump matchup, because I feel like he has he had that inquality, just to kind of go right back in a really cool, non forced, non cringey way.

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But I'm curious why you believe you know, you were talking about Donald Trump not being able to come up with the Bible passage or doing things that would have really destroyed any other candidate or any other president.

Really, and why do you think people forgive all these things that he does and they he's he's more teflon than teflon.

I don't have an answer.

I think it's like it's it's like a it's he's just a complete anomaly in our society.

I don't think there's anyone that's going to ever like, maybe this is a naive thing, because there's always a leader or someone that sucks oxygen.

But especially in the moment we're in now with social media and how much attention he's been able to gather for himself, he's such an anomaly.

There's no one that has been able to suck as much oxygen and also get just a group consistently get away with saying the things that he does, whether you like it or not, it's like it's unbelievable.

Well, I think he's a living example of all press being good press.

Like he doesn't.

He doesn't really care what you think about him as long as you're talking about Yeah, that's true, as long as he's living rent free in all of our brains.

Right, it's it's it's really wild.

It's weird, wild stuff, thanks Johnny, spiky stuff.

That is funny, funny struck.

It's funny, funny stuff.

What about?

All right?

I got to ask you for a couple of more.

No, I want to I don't want this to end.

Okay, all right, Bernie game, I know you do.

Bernie.

He's conducting a small Jewish orchestra.

God, Katie's so good.

I did my research back Bernie centers.

He always sounds like he's conducting a very tiny Jewish orchestra with his hands all the damn time.

I always worried that Trump will insult Bernie and it will literally kill him on the spot.

Like this guy looks like he's having a heart attack.

Oh that's because I actually am having a heart attack right now.

And I apologize for blowing out the microphone.

Yeah what uh?

Some people, I'm like, they were designed for comedy.

He was designed for comedy.

What about Jeff Goldbloom.

Yes, and you lost over Ted Cruz.

How dare you?

Oh?

Oh sorry, yeah, I dare you?

Okay, talk to me, as.

I said, Donald Trump, I said, here's what, here's what I think about Ted Cruiz, Ted Cruz.

There everybody's talking about.

There needs to be a mental and mental acuity test for the President's either saying there's be a physical test for the presidency.

I think there needs to be a vocal requirement because you cannot sound like Ted Cruz and lead the free world.

Donald Trump may have called my wife an ugly pig back in the day, but by god, he's right, he is right.

I don't see it either.

Now again, I'm pretty sure he did call his wife ugly, right, right, Okay, But anyways, I don't think you can sound like this.

I gotta go to can kun.

Let let let's wrap this interview up right now.

That nasal it's ridicted Ted Cruz.

Do solemnly sweat like that's just not going to work.

Yeah, yeah, it's that's a tough one.

Need I would do my JD Evans, but I forgot my eyeliner in my apartment.

Well, I was going to ask you about Jady Vance because I'm thinking someone who has selective memory, like Ted Cruz when he's insulted.

I mean jd Vance said.

That Donald Trump, you know as my me, mom my, peepa, my wie wan my woah wee wa, would all agree Donald Trump is he was.

I did say he was America's hitler, but now I know that the way he talks to Usha, I mean, he's a great guy.

And if I could have dinner with anybody throughout all of world history, it'd be him.

It really would be on behalf of all senators in this country today.

I mean it, I do.

I don't know he's I'm gonna work on him.

He's going to get better.

No, I think that's frue the obscure.

Ones like Chuck Grassley.

Chuck Grassley during the Kavanaugh hearings.

Okay, Janator lay, Jannator lay, We're going to be mar shooting to the floor.

Janator lay, Chuck grass like we really do have.

I talked about this on said cho I think we have a problem in our government.

You could say this as agist, but I think we have a legitimate geriatric Congress, and it needs to be to take care.

We need to take a look at it.

I mean on both sides of the aisle.

I mean Ruth Bader Ginsburg dying on the job, Diane Feinstein, Trump and Biden.

I think it's a problem.

Well, I think people want term limits.

I think we have term limits.

But also like it is interesting and you can see the the the generational gap really shines whenever there's these technology hearings and they invite like a young tech executive or CEO to come in and testify, like Chuck Grassley.

We'll interview the CEO of TikTok, like mister PF Chang okay, mister General cho is checking.

Oh he's Chinese.

Okay.

I understand that China is stealing and manipulating our data, But how do I turn the brightness up on my iPhone?

Like he's asking basic tech questions.

This isn't the genius bar.

So it feels very weird.

We have AI, we have a lot of future technological challenges.

But is some of this material in the world what you're using?

It's all right in itself.

It's Tim Cook going to the White House.

Oh yeah, mister President, We're so thrilled all the work you've been doing to expand technology globally.

Here's a gift we've given you.

It's a it's a gold plate, like what didn't even like a gold plate or something.

I thought he gave him an apple, So you guys, didn't he give him an apple?

A gold apple?

But Sam Altman like all these people again, it's like the world.

It's it's literally writing itself.

It's it's wild politically.

Yeah, but gold Well, you know, I did notice that you do very few women.

What context tell me about your sex.

Let's get into it.

Come on, but you know you.

Do Jennifer Coolidge, right, and you were you cracked her up?

Yeah?

I do cool Well, I actually pulled the Katie couric.

I had breaking news.

I was on the Golden Globes carpet and I can tell you about that.

Yeah, who were you working for?

So well that?

Do you want to take a sip of your riceed coffee?

Go ahead, No, I'll do it, Yeah, I'll do it.

I'm sorry.

I hope your audience.

I'm psychotic because guys, you never hender said.

Being in the presidence of Katie it gets me energized.

I am excited.

I feel like I'm at a Tony Robbins event.

This is This isn't like some boring comedians podcast.

This is Blazer icon Katie Kirk.

I'm in a studio in New York.

She has like a staff, there's cameras.

I feel like it is nineteen ninety five.

I'm on the Today Show.

This is it?

Okay, like this is iconic?

And I hope and I'll wake up to myrow morning.

What happened?

What did I do on that show?

But here we are.

Let's let's just rewind.

Let's take a breath, let's ground ourselves.

Okay, where was I saying?

Yes?

Golden globes?

Gods, I'm excited.

It's Katie Curric, It's Katie Kuric.

This is like look at that, Look at that Emmy?

Are you kidding me?

No one does a podcast with a big Emmy sitting there?

Do you know how many idiots have podcasts?

Katie Kirk the legend with her Emmy.

I also have a few from the Macy Thanksgiving Day parade.

We're just going to turn this back.

Arn Let's amaz Sally, Yeah no, please, no.

The Golden Globes.

I've been lucky to be on the carpet past three years for Dick Clark and first Golden Globes.

Yeah, and my friend Jeremy Jeremy Lowe who works at the company.

He's been huge advocate for me and he's put me on the carpet and I've just got to do my thing.

It's kind of what vintage SNL was like, where you can do the person next to the person.

Oh, you know, by the way, I was going to ask you, I'm surprised that nobody has called you, although I think the guy who does Trump on SNL is excellent.

You know, I was always a Barbara Walters fan, more of a barber than a Katy.

You like how that felt?

Katie?

Did you like how that fell?

I'm going to call up Savannah.

Let's end this going over to the Today Show.

No, he's got James Austin Jensen.

Very three names, yes, three names, yes, three terms, three names.

Would you like to do that on SNL?

I mean it was always my dream as a kid, but now, like again your proof of the changing world, and like, look at what Katie Kirk is doing.

You create your own show, your own format.

I'm again, I'm just a product of my generation where I always wanted to do it, but it's such a different world now and to have the opportunities that I have created, and.

I'm not buying it, Matt, I'm not buying it.

No.

Jeff Lauren Michaels called you and was like, Yo, Matt, Yeah, yeah, I mean I want you to audition for SNL.

I'm sure you'd be like, oh my god.

I mean, I think it's a different world to be honest, I really do, really, I really do.

You wouldn't want to be on SNL.

I think it'd be interesting.

I mean, I'm not going to be chasing it at this point, but I think it'd be a really fun experience.

I mean, especially given the history of it and also like the nature of my skill set and what I do, but I got to be focused on what I can control.

Do you think you you know, other than impersonating?

I know you did some stuff with Second.

City right now, I interned there.

Yeah, yeah, did you have any desire to kind of pursue acting more?

I'm doing it.

Yeah, I'm starting because you know, you got to start somewhere.

So I've just been been building and twenty seven now and I've created this platform for myself and now I'm creating content I'm doing carpet interviews.

I'm doing voiceover just to my first movie last week.

Yeah, what movie was it?

Can you talk called Grace period to rom com starring Ashley Green and Seth Green.

Oh well that's right, you said, Seth Green.

Yeah, and what do you play in it?

I play this younger Sioux chef to Seth Green, who is a chef who falls in love with this woman played by Ashley Green who is going through the egg freezing process and then she meets the right guy at the right time, and I'm like the younger roommate who has a lot of sex and has a lot of jokes.

Sounds like a good part.

It's great, But it was really surreal and fun experience.

And I'm very focused on my stand up now yeah and doing my first hour.

But to answer the Asino question, obviously that would be a really cool, like dream come true, But I got to be focused on what I can control.

Yeah, And you're right, you can go directly to an audience and kind of do your thing without somebody kind of giving you permission to do that.

Right.

So we were talking about Jennifer Cooley.

Yes on the Globes.

Yeah, I've gotten to do my impression next to the actual person on the globes, and so I did Coolidge next to Coolidge, and the news broke because people didn't realize that she had a regular sounding voice, because she's always like, oh god, oh, Katie Kurk's the best.

Fuck oh God.

And I did Jennifer Coolidge after sipping on a cold drink.

So I just go, ah, that's it.

That was the entire And then I did Goldbloom next to goldbluem I do Goldblom core Katie Kuric, wonderful journalist, iconic, very beautiful.

Yes, of course I have a wife, Emily, Emily Goldbloom, Olympic contortionist.

As Sandy Meisner, my acting teacher said, have ever given the platform to appear on Katie Kirk Tell her she's fantastic, She's wonderful.

There may be trouble ahead.

He speaks in jazz and orgasm.

Jeff Goldbloom, I do have a mild sexual experience whenever I do go something about him.

He's the greatest.

I've been lucky to do him on Family Guide, on the Simpsons and in a Marvel show.

And it's glad he has ensued me but and then I did Paul Giamaty and that was very fun too, Katy, very fun indeed.

Oh yes, you know, Katie Kirk is any of your many presidents, many politicians.

But today's the first time you'll ever speak to John Adams.

Very good.

That was really fun.

Yeah, so Golden Gloves was Paul Giamatti the cast of Succession.

Uh oh, really, can you do Brian fuck off?

Fuck off?

I do Tom Wam's gams from.

Oh Yeah please, because you know he's British, which is so interesting.

He says, hey, Hoddy, buckle up, fuck ahead.

Oh hey, shive, you know I have a dick the size of Red Sequoya and I fuck like a bullet train.

That's a quote from Succession.

I apologize again I'm quoting the show.

But The Gloves has been a huge platform for me and it's been like the highlight of my career.

I've loved it.

It's been surreal.

Well, I am so happy for your success and it's.

What it's done.

Don't don't want, don't want to.

I want to get grill.

Okay what else I can't?

I want to be grilled by Katie.

I just want one grill.

Go ahead, really imagine I just announced that I'm running for president.

Let's go come on high see I don't know I'm ready, mister friend yep.

Obviously, income inequality is a huge problem in this country.

Most people don't have four hundred dollars to spend in an emergency.

Now CEOs are making so much more than their average worker.

It's really gotten out of control, and I feel in many ways it's made this country right for revolution.

How would you solve income inequality in this country and create opportunities for people who aren't in the lower rungs socioeconomically.

Well, Katie, I'm really glad to ask that question, because if anyone is in a position to talk about income and equality, person who looks like they had a very expensive bar Mitzvah party, I look like if Pickleball was a person, Katie, I looked like the whole cast of succession in one person.

So me, the kid from Lincoln Park, isn't a position to talk about income inequality.

Katie.

I think it's a real problem that we're facing today, and I think that we have to look at this issue as a whole holistically.

On the left and on the right.

We had to come together because Katie, it's just not right.

It's just not right.

And before we wrap up this question, i'd like to say, uh, I'm sorry that was that was But before we wrap up, I want to say, thank you so much for having me.

You were so nice when I met you the first time, and uh, the work that you have done inspires me and will continue to inspire many generations.

And I'm so happy that you have this new platform and you're that you are so cool and uh, what's amazing about you is you have you define an era with your long god no no, no, that's true.

That era is Deadlight a Doug, but you define that era and now you're you're defining the next one.

So thank you so much for having me.

This was so so cool.

Thank you, and come by the show please.

I will, I will.

So.

Where can people find you on tour?

Mattfriend dot com for tickets and.

Go see Matt everybody on tour.

Thanks for listening everyone.

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