Episode Transcript
This week on the RV podcast More than Lyme disease, the hidden tick borne allergy that you've never heard of.
Get ready for the fall RV show season, what to expect, and why the RV industry is starting to breathe a bit easier.
Why RV tires seem to have more blowouts than cars?
All this plus Mike and Jen's RV story time coming up in episode five sixty of the RV podcast.
Hello, everybody.
I'm Mike Wenlan.
This is my lifelong traveling companion and my bride, Jennifer.
Hello, my dear.
Hello, mister Mike.
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We are really excited.
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Thirty days.
We usually do seven days.
This is a thirty day guide, and we're really excited about this book.
Alright.
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Now for the RV news of the week, here's a fascinating shift in how people are approaching RV travel in 2025, and it might surprise you.
According to major industry reports, 63% of travelers say they will take fewer trips in 2025 but spend more per trip, focusing on one big annual RV adventure rather than frequent weekend getaways.
They're calling these splurge cations, and campers are willing to splurge on upgraded experiences, premium campgrounds, and adventure activities like zip lining, guided tours, and fine dining.
What's really interesting is the rise of passion driven travel.
Instead of just picking a famous destination, more travelers are choosing trips based on their interests like baseball stadiums tours, brewery crawls, historic sightseeing, or outdoor adventure travels.
It's like the RV community is saying, if we're gonna do this, let's make it count.
The trade off makes sense too, quality over quantity.
And with inflation hitting everyone, people are being more strategic about their travel budgets.
That's what we're doing in just a month.
We're gonna do a thirty three day trip down the Mississippi River, tracing it from where it starts in Minnesota all the way down to New Orleans.
And I think about our Pacific Northwest travel guide, that new travel guide.
It's a region where you really can spend time and dig in deep.
So I think we're right on top of this trend.
I really do.
And I'm just thinking practical that you're not packing up every weekend and unpacking, packing, and unpacking.
Doing long trips.
And you're gonna go.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's good.
Hey.
Speaking of going, if you drive a diesel motor home or a diesel pickup truck, you're gonna be excited to hear that it looks like manufacturers will no longer be allowed to program in that severe immediate power loss when diesel exhaust fluid runs low.
Hopefully, this is gonna start with twenty twenty seven models.
The EPA has now called on truck and engine makers.
They say you gotta scrap this aggressive limp mode software.
Boy, we got stuck with that once.
Remember?
I think it was our first RV trip.
Our first trip, we have had that lymph mode Oh.
Many times, and it is so frightening.
But the very first trip My very first trip.
It happened.
Yep.
And what it what would happen is when your DEF fluid gets low, it would just it immediately cuts power to the engine.
And, the EPA says that's unacceptable.
It's unnecessary.
And, of course, it's been a long sense of frustration for a lot of RVers.
The fall RV show circuit is bringing some interesting dynamics to the industry this year.
Dealers are motivated to move inventory before twenty twenty six models arrive, meaning some of the best deals we've seen in years.
Show organizers are working closely with exhibitors to change their message and produce mix to best fit the market condition.
Translation, if you've been waiting for the right time to buy an RV, this fall show season might be your golden ticket.
Speaking of fall shows, all eyes around the the largest RV show, they say.
That's its official name.
America's largest RV show.
That's the official name of the show.
Born yesterday.
They weren't born yesterday.
They coined that phrase fifteen to sixteen years ago, but that's the official name of it.
Attendees are gonna be among the very first to see a lot of the twenty twenty six models, RV models.
That'll give you a chance to kinda get ahead of the curve if that's what you gotta have the latest.
Last year's show saw an interesting trend with destination trailers having a much larger footprint than they've had before.
Representatives like, campsite reserves, Cedar Creek, Wildwood, Coleman, Homestead model.
They were very prominent in the show and the front aisles of the show.
So we don't know what it's gonna be this year, but the show has become more than just an RV showcase.
It's where the industry really tests out their new concept, gauges consumer reactions.
And that's because it's like this giant massive focus group.
They get 60,000 people at Hershey.
So the industry really gets to see what kind of catches everybody's eyes, and then they fine tune that for the Tampa RV show, the Florida RV show every in January.
But Hershey for industry watch is probably the best barometer there is to see where RVing is headed.
Behind all these shows, there's a bigger story about how the RV industry is adapting to post pandemic marketing conditions.
The RV Industry Association is projecting wholesale shipments to reach a median of 350,100 units in 2025, a modest increase from 2024, which suggests the market is stabilizing after the wild swings of recent years.
Retail registration data for June 2025 showed the first year over year increase since late twenty twenty three with 37,596 units sold, an indication dealers are beginning to see improved consumer activities.
You know, what's really interesting is how manufacturers are responding.
Some of them have scaled back a lot this year, scaled back production.
Others have been doubling down on trying to come up with innovation, and several brands introduced twenty twenty five models with incremental but pretty practical enhancements.
And And I'm thinking like Thor Industries.
They just upgraded their whole class b camper vans with things like improved insulation and expanded solar capacity from 700 watts to 800 watts, better Internet connectivity.
So it's interesting.
The industry seems to be finding its footing in a more measured sustainable growth pattern rather than the breakneck pace that we saw during those pandemic years.
Alright.
That's our news of the week.
Show notes for this episode can be found.
You can get learn more about them or find links to the resources and stories mentioned at rvlifestyle.com/podcast.
And Jen and I always love to get your comments and your questions about anything you hear in this episode.
Just send us an email.
Our private email is mikeandjen@rvlifestyle.com.
Time now for the RV conversation of the week.
Last year, a few hours after eating a nice juicy hamburger, our veer Fred Church became violently ill.
He shrugged it off as a virus or a touch of food poisoning, But then a month later, the Little Rock, Arkansas resident had another hamburger.
And this time, he woke at 1AM, pounding itch on the palms and soles of his feet.
His tongue started to swell.
He threw up.
And as the tongue kept swelling, it was hard to understand.
Thankfully, Benadryl helped that night, but the incident led Fred to an allergist where they did a blood test, and they showed he had something called the alpha gal IgE antibody.
It's more officially now known as alpha gal.
And he was, they said allergic to red meat and the cause a tick bite.
And everybody it seems has heard by now of Lyme disease and how prevalent that is.
But according to the CDC, ticks cause at least 15 different human diseases spread over all kinds of different ticks located all over the country.
And one of the perhaps least known and easily missed illnesses is that alpha gal one that Fred and is gonna talk to us about in this week's episode.
Fred and his wife, Kathy, are longtime RVers.
They camp in a coach house RV, love the outdoors.
But this whole experience has changed their approach to bug spray.
Today, Fred's here to share his experience on the little known but extremely serious condition called alpha gal.
And we think it might change your approach.
It's taking tick precautions too.
So come meet Fred with us.
Kinda walk us through this story a little bit.
How how you got bit by a tick?
Let's start with that.
Honestly, I don't remember where I was to get it.
I think I may have been at my daughter's place, in North Arkansas where they have five acres, and the dog likes to play in that big yard and the grass is tall, but I fish a lot.
It It may have been that way.
But I got a tick bite June '24, maybe in May, and it was on my back.
And it was there for a day or so because I couldn't see it being on my back.
And then I realized something was there.
Had my wife look at it, and she goes, oh, yeah.
There's a tick.
So she got it off.
Didn't think that much about it other than it then started to itch.
And I don't think the itching has much to do with the syndrome, but that's why I remember the tick bite.
It itched for weeks.
And that was it.
Didn't think much about it.
And then, I'm not a big big eater anyway.
But one day, we decided to go to lunch, and I got a hamburger.
It tasted great.
I hadn't had a hamburger in a long time.
And that night, about
maybe 06maybe 06:00, we were just about ready to eat.
And I just looked at her, and I stood up and went to the bathroom and just threw up and threw up and threw up.
Yet when I finished, I felt great.
I mean, I didn't feel sick.
It was just it was gone, and I thought, well, I got a bad hamburger.
And, apparently, that is just very classic for people's first reaction.
Why do they call it alpha gal?
Well, it's a it's a allergic reaction to a sugar that is alpha galactose.
And I'd I'd heard of it.
I kinda knew generally about it before I had it.
We have a friend who has it, but I didn't know anything really.
And, apparently, all mammals have the sugar, alpha galactose, except humans.
And that's the reason it becomes a problem if you acquire it.
So you came down with this.
Now you got sick.
You just thought that first time was bad burger, food poisoning.
Oh, how did we drill down a little bit more and find out Well, about two months later, it was time for another burger.
Got a burger, and this time it was at night or in the evening.
And about 01And about 01:00 in the morning, I woke up because my tongue was itching so intensely that it woke me up.
And then I realized my palms were itching and the soles of my feet were itching, and that's a pretty good allergy when that starts.
And then I so I get up and, trying not to disturb my wife, realized go to the kitchen and realized my tongue is swelling.
And by the time I got to work in the sound like I was, I got her up because I thought, you know, if it gets any worse than this, we're going to the ER.
Unfortunately, the ER was, like, two or three blocks away, so it wasn't like it was gonna be a a terrible something.
It was tear it would have been terrible, but it wasn't gonna be a thirty minute ride.
Got some Benadryl in me.
Actually, I threw up again and, got some Benadryl in me after that, and that's when I started kinda putting two and two together.
That's because Did you did not go to the ER that night?
No.
I did not.
So you took some Benadryl, felt better, knew it was in order to clean It never got to my airway.
My tongue was swollen really quite a bit, but I could breathe fine.
Right.
And then with the Benadryl over the next three or four hours, it kinda went back to a normal tongue and, quit itching.
How But there you go.
So how did you, how did you ever get diagnosed and figure this out?
Well, basically, I started with the Internet, looked it up on Google, and realized that my reaction, both of them, was very classic.
Most people most people will start with a food poisoning like reaction and not think very much of it.
And then their next one is the one that starts to get pretty big.
And mine was actually fairly minor compared to many people's.
Many people do wind up in the ER with true full blown anaphylaxis.
And, there have been people who die because of this.
This is not something just to take for, lately that, oh, well, I got this little condition.
What else besides beef, are you restricted?
Is it any other foods?
We're also tested, though.
Let me yeah.
One thing I will throw back in about getting diagnosed.
After reading about it on the Internet, I had some blood work run, you know, for the IgE components of this disease, and everything was elevated.
And I had pretty classic reaction there too.
It boils down to really pretty simple.
If, if meat has hair or fur, I shouldn't eat it.
If it has feathers and scales, I'm okay, which limits you a lot.
Now you have a medical background as is your wife.
You are retired periodontist, your wife a retired physician.
With your medical background, what has surprised you about about this?
I think the thing that surprises everybody is the fact it's such a delayed reaction.
Typically, when you have an allergic reaction, as it gets into your system, you pretty quickly have a reaction.
Like, if you take an amoxicillin and you're allergic to penicillin, probably within fifteen or twenty minutes, you're gonna start having something.
This is hours.
Average is four.
Mine was closer to six.
So that throws off most people's instinct on what's an allergy or what you're gonna be allergic to because you you're sitting there going, what did you have?
And you're not going far enough back time wise to think about it.
I'm willing to bet that you've become kind of an expert in ticks and, tick borne diseases from all of this.
I know to be very careful.
I'm I'm much more careful when I'm out now, mostly because nobody really knows if it lasts forever or not.
But they do know that if you continue to be bitten, it tends to be the lone star tick.
That's a type of tick.
It's not the only one, but that's the primary one that carries this.
And if if you're bitten again, it just starts the whole process over, and you may not ever get over it.
So I'm being real careful.
But the suggestion is two years after your bite to be completely retested to see where you are.
And by then, I may be okay, and it may still be just like it is.
It it's a total crapshoot.
Now our folks, of course, who, follow us here in this podcast, they're active.
They're outside a lot, with, the RV lifestyle.
Some advice for people.
Ticks are now everywhere.
They really are.
Obviously, you know, be aware of them.
They're mostly gonna be in tall grass.
I tend to wear long pants now when, normally, I would have worn shorts, and I just about don't do that anymore.
They make I don't have any, but they make clothing that has been immersed in special chemicals that really repel them.
I don't I haven't gotten to that point, but I do really spray my feet, socks, pants very heavily with just a good bug repellent with DEET.
One of the one of the things I saw recently, which makes a lot of sense, is to take duct tape, reverse it, and put the sticky side out and roll it around your pants legs at your socks to kinda compress them, and it kinda preps the tick on the way up.
No doubt that ticks are now pretty much, all over the 48 states.
No.
That's good.
Well, Fred, thank you for sharing your story.
That's a a part of a disease that most of us would be unaware of.
We don't like ticks.
It's the number one reason adults wind up with anaphylaxis right now, which is Really?
Yes.
Which is just amazing.
You didn't have any trouble with an insure with insurance or anything with, with all this, did you?
No.
Because we've heard scary stories about people, and maybe that's changed in recent years.
People with Lyme disease who could not get insurance coverage, they were very slow in recognizing that as a true problem.
We we handle that differently in Arkansas.
This is sort of a joke, but it's true.
There's no Lyme disease in Arkansas because our health department does not test for it.
So if you don't test for it, there is none.
That is true.
Wow.
Well, that's Don't ask me why.
Yeah.
That's that's a big question for, Arkansas because they sure Lyme disease sure is everywhere else.
Hey, Fred.
Thank you.
We will pass along some more information about ticks, but, love love hearing getting your story and great warning for people.
Just need to know about this.
They do.
Thanks so much for making time.
You.
Good talking with you.
Wow.
I never heard of anything like that.
Yeah.
Here, I've always just heard about Lyme disease, which is bad enough.
Yeah.
But all these different types of diseases that ticks carry.
And ticks are so rare in places we never saw them before.
They're there.
So it's crazy.
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Now it's time for the social media buzz with Wendy Boyer.
She reports on the hot issues most talked about this past week on social media and our RV lifestyle community group.
Hi, everybody.
This past week, the buzz in our private RV lifestyle community has been mini meetups.
August is mini meetups in our group where members of the group get together and meet up.
And our first one was in Nashville, Tennessee where some members got together, shared a meal, some camped at the KOA, and it sounds like lots of laughs and fun by all.
And can't wait to hear about the others in the next week.
But what I'd like to share with you today are three tips that I saw that make RVing a little bit easier, and here they are in no particular order.
The first one was from Wayne and Susie.
They shared it in our private community, and they wrote, we are in a campground with 30 amp power, and it's a 100 degrees.
So I set up my swamp cooler by tying freezer cold packs on the back of our portable fan.
It helps immensely.
Just wish I had another set of four freezer packs to switch out when these need to go back in the freezer.
And they shared a picture of their fan with this setup.
Sounds like a brilliant idea.
It sounds like it could be really helpful to a lot of folks when it's hot out as it's been this last few weeks.
And then the second post I'd like to share with you was in our RV lifestyle Facebook group, and it was from Jane.
And Jane wrote, found this to be the best kitchen appliance when it's hot outside.
It doesn't heat up your RV.
And for those listening to the audio only version of the podcast, Jane shared a picture of a single burner induction cooktop that can be placed outside on the table, plugged in, used to cook, keeps all those smells and heat outside your rig.
Many also chimed in when they saw this post, said they had it as a game changer, helped with them even save money because they use less propane for cooking.
And the only thing is you gotta make sure you have induction capable cookware, but wanted to share this idea with you in case it could help someone else out there.
And then the third and final post with a tip came from Renee, and this one has to do with the kitchen, specifically your kitchen spices.
Renee took picture of all the things that she brings in her RV in their original packaging, plastic, glass, all the different spices.
And what she did was she transferred them into something called mason jar ziplock bags.
She picked them up online.
She they're stored in a clear glass box.
She got from the family dollar store, huge space saver.
Look like a great idea.
Many people were super excited to see this and said they were doing the same thing.
So wanted to share this as well in case it could help somebody.
And that's it for me this week.
Three different tips that were shared on our social media platforms, and we love seeing tips, love seeing hacks, and hope it can help someone.
I'm Wendy Boyer, and I'll see you in either our private RV lifestyle community or Facebook group.
I just love hearing all those tips and suggestions and the friendship that develop on our community.
They're they're really amazing, aren't they?
There's so much to learn from each other.
Yep.
There is.
Hey.
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A lot of folks are looking at multi acre parcels that they can develop into their own RV retreat.
And there's only two places in the country right now that we know about that offer developments like that.
One of them is in Arizona and the other in Tennessee.
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It's pretty incredible.
Jennifer and I took a trip to Las Vegas and Arizona to look at Windmill Acres, a brand new RV property being offered by Western Land and Ranches.
They're selling off one and two acre parcels starting at only $14,900.
Now these are big.
An acre is the size of a football field.
The properties are on a plateau with big valley views, and the location is amazing.
Next to Lake Mead National Recreation Area, We had a blast.
There are so many places to explore near the property, the Grand Canyon.
We took a boat ride on the Colorado River below Hoover Dam.
Boulder City was a fun little town.
That's right off Route 66.
And, of course, we had to enjoy some nightlife in Las Vegas.
It's a lifetime supply of fun things to do when you own a camp at Windmill Acres.
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I'm always reading about RV tires blowing out.
Why don't car tires blow out so much?
That was for Nancy.
That's a really great question.
A great question.
Yeah.
The short answer is that RV tires are used under much harsher condition than car tires.
There's a lot more cars out there.
They certainly travel more miles than RVs, but the reason blowouts are more common among RVs is because RVs use those tires in a tougher way.
And there's a lot of explanations for that.
First of all, RVs are very heavy, and often they carry loads close to the maximum rating of the tires.
Or over the maximum rating of the tires.
It's so easy to overload your RV.
Yeah.
Put extra stress on the tires whenever you do that.
Car tires usually operate well below the maximum weight, so they have more of a margin of error there for you.
And RV tires run hotter because they're carrying these heavy loads sometimes at higher pressures.
RV tires often age out before they wear out.
An RV might sit parked for long stretches so the rubber degrades, dry, rot, cracking.
Even if the tread looks fine, cars are more likely to be driven regularly and stored in garages or shaded driveways.
And I I think another thing is let's be blunt about it.
RV manufacturers, some of them, cut their costs by equipping their rigs with the cheapest tires they can source often from little known overseas brands.
Critics sometimes refer to these as China bombs because of the reputation for failing under stress.
And it's true that many tires today are made in China, but the difference is that cars typically roll off the lot with well known reputable name brands.
We want to have an RV dealer give us some advice, give us a rule of thumb on how to know if you, wanted those tires.
If you can't easily pronounce the manufacturer's name, it's probably best to steer clear.
Yep.
Bottom line, RV tires blow out more because they carry heavier loads.
They sit unused for long periods, and they suffer more from age and heat.
Car tires are used more regularly and under less strain.
Hey.
Do you have a question?
We love to hear from you.
Send them to us at mikeandjen@rvlifestyle.com.
And now it's time for Mike and Jen's story time, the Ogema County UFO encounter.
So we're gonna talk about this week.
So, Jen, do you remember we were boondocking from the middle of nowhere in Ogemont County up in Northern Michigan?
How could I forget?
We were so deep in those woods.
I'm pretty sure our GPS just gave up and started showing question marks.
We're talking like no cell coverage, just us, the RV, and about a million trees, and it's dark.
We're sitting around outside the camp chairs, got a little fire going, and we're enjoying the peace and quiet.
Probably 10Probably 10:00 at night, and Jen goes, Mike, what is that?
Because there were these lights, you guys, just over the tree line to the east of us, and they weren't like airplane lights or anything normal.
They were moving really slowly from north to south, and here's the creepy part.
They kept turning on and off.
Like, not blinking.
Just turning completely on and then off.
Just floating there.
Then they're gone, then they're back again maybe in a slightly different spot.
We're watching these things for twenty minutes.
And Mike's got his phone out trying to record, but of course There there's it's dark and it's a long way away.
I'm getting a black screen, maybe a tiny dot.
It could be something, and you zoom in on it.
It gets all out of focus.
The phone wasn't very helpful.
But we both saw it.
Multiple lights moving in this weird pattern, definitely not following any flight path that made sense.
And we're looking at each other.
Are we really seeing this right now?
We've watched enough YouTube videos to know that UFOs are supposed to look like that.
Right?
And this was checking all the boxes for us, mysterious lights, the middle of nowhere, no logical explanation.
We went to bed that night, and I was like, Mike, I think we just saw actual UFOs.
And he's I think so too.
Neither of us slept great that night.
I kept listening for that, whoo hoo, weird humming sound that they show you in all those old silly science fictions movies.
I I was waiting for the RV to start shaking and a big light came down.
Yep.
Right.
Every little noise have me convinced that the aliens were coming.
So the next morning, we drove into town to hit up the local general store and one of those places that has everything from fishing bait to breakfast cereal to motor oil.
And the guy behind the counters goes, y'all camping out in the woods?
And we said, yeah.
Why?
And he said, I thought you might have been.
There's some other people out there.
And he started telling us about how there's apparently this other campsite about a mile from where we were, which we had no idea existed, and the people camping there last night were celebrating something.
Setting off Chinese lanterns, he says.
Probably saw them floating around for quite a while last night.
Chinese lanterns.
We just stood there looking at each other, feeling a bit sheepies.
All of our UFO excitement vanished with the Chinese ladders that we saw.
But you know what?
For about twelve hours, we were absolutely convinced we'd witnessed something otherworldly.
We were ready to call the Discovery Channel.
I was already planning our interview with the local news.
Camping couples spots unexplained phenomenon over Oklahoma County.
Instead, it was more like camping couple mistakes, party decorations for alien spaceship.
The moral of the story is sometime the truth really is out there.
It's just way more boring than you hoped.
But, hey, at least we got a good story out of it.
And those Chinese lanterns were actually really pretty even if they weren't from outer space.
Before we go, let us again invite you to become hang out with us at the RV Lifestyle Community, our private ad free group for RVers who love to share stories, share tips, hold rallies, and meetups, and share great places to camp.
Check us out @RVcommunity.com.
That's it for this episode of the RV Podcast.
Thanks for watching and listening.
Happy trails.