Hi everybody, welcome back to Talking Pluribus.

I'm Phil, the issues guy getting into our episode 7 discussion and wow, what an episode.

I don't know if I want to howl at some wolves, get a Golf Club and start breaking some windows, or try to navigate through the difficult gap and get impaled on a tree, or just start humming.

It's the end of the world as we know it and I don't care.

But one thing for sure, this was really a lot of fun and I can't wait to start talking about it.

So let's go.

This was just an amazing, fun time of Carol just just kind of getting to the point of testing the waters of how it feels to be alone, what she could do in a world alone to try to entertain herself.

And I like how throughout the process and throughout the focus of this episode, we see the whole entire journey of Carol's way of handling this and way of feeling about all this, the way of gathering all the things that she thinks will give herself joy.

And also really depending on the Howard Hamlin hotline to deliver on that stuff.

You can really feel without her having to say it.

This show is a king of showing, not telling.

Obviously there's not a lot of dialogue on this show, so it it doesn't give you an opportunity to tell us what's going on, but it absolutely masters the act of showing us stuff in this episode.

Truly dove deep into Carol as a person and understanding her a bit more and seeing what makes in that in it all leading up to that big emotional moment at the end with Zocia returns.

I actually thought that might have been mono.

They're showing up or them showing up with him in that moment, but instead it was Zocia and I which makes sense.

She's she's like the second lead of the show.

It would it, it makes sense that she would be there tonight or that she would show up because she's missed a couple of episodes.

But I thought this was just an excellent journey for both at for both, both characters.

But starting here with Carol, it was for half of it.

It was like Ferris Bueller's Day Off with Carol, like Carol fucking off, having her adventure, lighting off fireworks, having gourmet dinners, having the perfect product placement where where the Gatorade gets that.

I mean, I mean, Vince, I know you got to pay the bills, but that was that was that was like that was the most obvious product placement since Wayne's World.

It was it was great.

It was just like you want to get you go to the Cabana Bay at Universal.

You know, it was just this show is sponsored by the Cabana Bay.

If you want to lay in a lazy river and sip a tropical drink while looking at a volcano shooting out water, stay at the Cabana Bay.

No, I mean it was it was fun, though, but it was we got another drill.

We got the return of the drone, which which and we get Carol humming all night.

You know it's the end of the world and and someone said it earlier.

I forget who said it earlier, but I want to give damn credit to who the hell said it.

But I think it might have been, might have been Jim.

Yeah.

It was the musical episode.

It wasn't quite like a Buffy or a Scrubs situation, but we did.

Carol not narrated musical.

Musical narration is scored.

Would that be the correct?

Would be that?

Would that be the correct expression?

What would musical commentary be?

Would it or narration?

Would musical narration just still be narration or just be musical?

Either way, she definitely kept the theme and the vibe of how she was feeling throughout the episode through her songs and all the kind of situations that I thought were was really well done and really fun.

We've got our first text message of the night and I we've got from 213.

I think the happy hive mind is actually God.

Therefore there.

I don't know why I said like that the Blues brothers way.

Therefore there must be an anti God.

Maybe the wolves will bite someone and spread the Satan hive mind.

I think that is amazing where your mind is going and I think this show increases creative thought.

I also want to send some special love out to our good buddy in listening to the podcast, Camaro Gary.

Thank you, Camaro Gary for your messages and for your theories and thoughts and sending you lots of awesome, awesome vibes.

And thank you for checking out the show and being part of our amazing group of folks analyzing and talking about the show or feeling like Joe did last week and and adding gasoline P to our party.

Either way, it's fun.

It's fun.

Sometimes talking to Joe helps me refocus how much I feel something about, you know, like if I'm just lukewarm about something and he's going full on you it, you're like, OK, OK, I'll give in.

But no, no, no, no, no, no, not not with this 'cause this is this is maybe not a show for everybody.

I understand some people's perspectives that have legitimate, you know, criticisms and gripes, Joe Joe being one of them.

But it's for me, this show is is I incense candy and it wouldn't matter if it was a Vince Gilligan show.

This would this would be the type of show that I would like and would end up getting cancelled because I was the only person that watched it.

This is this is my type of thing.

Thank you, Zach.

Zach.

There's a few things he doesn't Zach Zach in our chat, he's a Lego maniac.

He's a chat maniac.

Zach.

Sorry.

I'm sorry, Zach.

We got Pixie, the amazing Pixie in the live chat.

Phil's doctor Seuss.

I am I am rhyming and I don't I am a poet and I don't now I can't do it now I've suddenly stopped.

We're now going in C minor.

It's the saddest of all keys.

Iron Gatorade with sugar, not the fake stuff.

And I want it ice cold.

I didn't say lukewarm.

I didn't say tip it.

I want it cold.

Freaking cold.

What are you doing to me?

Gatorade is thirst aid for that deep down body thirst.

But it needs to be cold to work.

Yeah.

And she she went some some Georgia on your mind there too.

In it is the end of the world.

I do feel fine and you can tell I I have I watch Caddyshack about a month ago.

It's it's funny that she was singing the Caddyshack song and she was smashing stuff with her golf clubs as well, Monny says.

I love it.

And I haven't watched any Vince Gilligan shows before, and I think I saw someone else in the chat earlier who had said that coconut earlier.

I know this is her first experience in a Vince Gilligan show as well, and she's enjoying the saturation of it all too.

Pixie.

I could be so lucky.

I could be so lucky Sonic.

This was one of my favorite of the season as well.

I think these last two episodes have really brought it up to another level for me this episode, especially the intensity, the way that we I haven't got to mono yet and I will in a moment here before we get into our recap, but it's it's really hot in here.

That's these people have to heat on very hot, right?

It's it's getting hot in here and I might have to take off.

I might have to take off part of my clothes, but but we will get a recap.

We got the wonderful Jay in the live chat.

Hey, Jay, good to see you buddy.

Instead of a Gopher, they had a bison.

They also had a very, very, very suspicious rabbit.

Did you see the suspicious rabbit or was that a Gopher?

And I misread the situation.

But we did see the the Buffalo.

It was the Buffalo or a bull.

I don't know.

I'm full of bull, the bison, the bull, whatever.

But I correct me if I'm wrong, just to go there for a second, because people that have been listening to me or listening to us here since the beginning of the season know that one thing I'm annoying about.

Well, let's be honest, there's several things I'm annoying about.

But one thing I've been extra annoying about is the animal situation.

And I'm not talking about, Oh, I don't have my cop tonight.

I'm not talking about animal playing drums, animal E drums.

I'm talking about the animals.

Where are the animals?

Joe's been a little a little tippit on the animals too.

So it is interesting to me that that bison, that bull, that whatever the fuck and the and Mr.

Rabbit pants in Bugs Bunny, Babs Babs rabbit, Roger, whoever the fucking little asshole in the corner sitting there watching Carol.

It seemed like those animals were in the hive mind.

They seemed like they were plurbs.

I, I don't know, it could be a DID device.

Do they just sit there and watch golf?

Is that, is that where they're just choosing to hang out?

I don't know.

It's suspicious to me.

It was a suspicious Bunny.

Maybe I've watched too many Looney Tunes cartoons.

Maybe that's the problem.

The problem could be that I could accept that that is partially the issue that that most of my logic based mindset comes from Looney Tunes cartoons and Tom and Jerry.

So therefore I'm probably not the best person to talk about anything except for I don't know, drums.

You follow the white rabbit that was Bugs Bunny made a wrong turn it out.

I made a wrong turn in Albuquerque.

Maybe that was a a cameo there.

Those those are a Pink Floyd rabbit cats.

Do you like to watch basketball?

You should it is it's definitely wabbit season.

I was like, can I am I allowed to play this message?

Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm sorry no, I'm not I'm not going to read that it's duck no, it's rabbit season.

It's duck season.

Rabbit season, duck season, rabbit season, duck season.

Oh God.

OK, so let's get a little bit into the second-half of this story.

We're obviously going to break down this episode scene by scene, but let's talk a little bit about our secondary character because tonight was we didn't just get a cameo or a few moments from Mano.

We got him as a full, full at least half the episode.

I I don't know what the exact cut was, but it felt like he got equal amount in tonight's episode.

It almost it felt more like it was his episode and Carol was getting the the extra attention.

Daryl, yes, I, I, I what Daryl's saying in the chat right now.

And those of you who are just listening cannot, cannot read that.

But read my mind and the rest will follow.

Daryl's right.

Don't be so shallow, OK?

Be be where we where we quiet Pixies hunting webbits.

I'm no walking, David, but I'll try my best with in with in with horrible impressions.

I'm glad Carol started to indulge as well.

And at least enjoy some of the perks of this particular situation.

But I also like how they showed within the process of her development through this episode that no matter what, even if you're somebody that treasures your solitude and you're not really a people person, you even even introverts in some cases, some types of introverts need recharging with extra extrovert energy.

Still need people.

Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not watching me.

But just because I am an introvert sometimes doesn't mean I don't need to hang out with people or get a hug sometimes.

See, I'm feeling like Carol.

I could feel that moment at the end of this episode.

That was very cathartic.

Is that the correct expression?

No, I really did feel that at the end when she embraced Zocia because you could.

You felt it throughout the episode because you show they showed how much joy she was finding at the beginning with some of the things she was doing the first time she was playing golf, the first time she was doing this, the first time she was in this situation, grabbing the painting, doing this, doing that.

She could see her start to put together some elements of figuring out how to survive in this particular environment, or at least find those moments of finding a way to find joy in the shitty things.

But then through the course of the episode, we you just see that that's it's not going to be enough, which she she's a per.

She's people that miss people and they're the happiest people.

That was going to try to sing that, but I'm not going to do that to you.

We got the amazing super mellow yellow and a banana in the live chat.

Loving the live show mishearing you discuss my favorite shows.

Miss seeing your wonderful puppies plural faces in the live chat and you're you as well.

It's great to have you and great to see you.

It's good to see some of our old friends from the from from, from different shows that we've done throughout the years popping on and checking in there here because you know, it's another another amazing fun show.

So I, I appreciate awesome people finding this show and it doesn't surprise me that you're enjoying enjoying Pluribus Anna.

So thank you and welcome.

Check check, check, check, check.

What?

What?

I meant toast, why am I like cheersing you and saying check check, check.

I don't even like am I playing?

Am I playing?

Cheers No.

Am I playing chess?

And I'm really excited about a horrible move I made.

Check, check, check, check, check.

Damn, someone that hosts the podcast.

I certainly can't talk.

So great to have so many good friends in the live chat right now.

So mono in the gap.

So we we get to see his whole journey and the first half of his journey is, you know, just the typical like road trip situation.

I like how they just we followed him, learn more about him and what he doesn't say.

And when he does decide to talk and say something, it really fucking matters.

And a lot of his story was, you know, travelling time, got to see some wonderful landscapes, landscapes, landscapes and different things like that.

But what I loved about that is within that storyline, it if you haven't done your own research and you kind of phone this, this guy and you know where he's going, but you don't really know where he's going, It's easy to not realize that he's in for some serious shit.

And they they trick you when he's when he gets the force.

And I love how all the the plurbs show up.

They're like, they're like, hey, you know, you can't go in there, dude, dude, see all these people ditching their backpacks.

This area is really freaking dangerous.

Just tell us the word and we'll, we'll get to what you need.

We'll get you on a plane.

We'll get you to Carol tomorrow, tomorrow.

Don't worry about it.

We'll handle it.

And I love what he says there.

He's just like he's like, no, you can't give me anything because everything you have stolen, screw you skew you guys.

I'm burning my car.

And then he's not even let him take the car.

He's burning up his car just to just, to, just to tell him to go fuck themselves.

I appreciate that level of spite that that level of spite makes me smile in, in, in weird ways.

So, so thank you Manos for for for tickling that part of me that enjoys spite burns.

And that was very that versus that was a that was a spite burn.

If I ever saw one.

That's yeah, Damn you.

Damn you motherfuckers.

I'm burning this whole thing.

But but they're warning him and they're making you feel like, yeah, yeah, maybe they're just trying to help him.

Like maybe he's not going into that dangerous of a situation.

And then he's the music's playing.

It's all happy music.

Like whatever it was, I don't know what kind of music.

I don't couldn't hum the exact music.

But it was, it was optimistic, like conqueror music.

He's he's hacking through the Fort, through the through the woods, you know, no prob, no prob, no prob.

And suddenly bump, he's like, it almost falls into the, the, what are we going to call it, the nail tree?

It's just got a bunch of nails sticking out of it, possibly poisonous, possibly infectious, whatever.

But so, and then a really real moment happens, especially if you if you're klutz like me, but even if you're not a klutz, this dude slips.

And then when you're slipping, it was a very realistic slip.

Anyone who's who's clumsy, anyone who I'm like Charlie Brown, Charlie Brown meets Gilligan and Goofy, like they all three of them got together and they mumble and they stutter a little bit too, but they all get together.

They all have a love child and they birthed it in it and Weird Al blessed it.

And then and you get me.

OK, so I understand klutziness and I, I've fallen more ways than you could possibly imagine.

If one day I come back into this podcast and I am crippled from the waist down due to a slip wound, it would not be surprising.

That's how big of a klutz I am.

I, I fall up upstairs on a regular basis, so I know falling and this was a very, very accurate fall.

He slipped and then he went to grab the tree in front of him because you look to go to the get to the closest thing that's going to save your fucking ass while you're falling.

And he went to grab it and he grabs and that slipped and that threw him backwards smack right into it.

Pincushion.

Damn.

And the way it happened, the way they edited it and the way the sound editing worked in that moment scared the ever living shit out of me.

I jumped and it, it was intensely done effectively.

And then right in that moment, this is, this is dynamite editing.

They they change the music and the music suddenly starts to sound like, like there's the same song, but it's it's in a different tempo or there's some dissident keys being played while it's happening to make it make it seem, or it's being played in a slightly off off rhythm or something.

It's feeling like, oh shit, the world is sinking in like danger, danger Will Robinson, danger will Robinson.

It's it's a bad situation.

Red alert.

And and then he freaking cauterizes those things with his, with his machete, which was horrifying.

And I'm sitting there like watching like, because the episode lulled me into a sense of security at that point.

I was feeling comfortable.

I was feeling OK.

Everything's cool, everything's chill.

He's he's going to make it through here.

It doesn't seem like maybe he'll run into more of these Plurbs.

It might be kind of funny if he runs into some drug cartel like Pluribus, guys that are really nice and helpful.

You know why he's in the Colombian rain, Colombian Panamanian border.

But it was, it was just unexpected.

It was shocking.

It was a big moment.

It was almost like when the Joker in The Dark Knight goes, look at me.

It's just it suddenly gets really intense.

And I felt it and I was, I viscerally felt the energy of what he was feeling in that moment, the pain, the bird.

And then obviously he, they come, they come for him and he can't do anything about it.

So my wonder is where I assume they're just going to, they're going to bring him to the hospital and we're going to catch up with him either next episode in the season finale, they're going to bring Carol to him or, or or assume Zocia in the next episode will tell her about him that he's on, it's on his way and he wants to talk to her.

And then that creates some drama where he might want to kill Zocia and Carol's trying to protect her a little bit.

I don't know.

Let's go into the live chat for a second.

He did get knighted.

And hello, hello.

My name is.

He told.

Thank you for saying that, Moni.

And I totally wrote that in my notes as well, him repeating his name.

My name is Mono.

It's nice to meet you, but I'm not one of them.

Totally sounded like my name is Indigo Montoya.

You killed my father.

I totally got those kind of vibes.

I wish I could show you my actual notes, Gary.

When he slipped, I freaked too.

It just was a moment.

It.

It really was like Bam.

Moni was saying I was wishing Carol was running around with no clothes on because I was wishing Mono had body armor.

I would absolutely take that trade off money.

That seems fair.

Coconut.

The wet rock is slippery, The spiky treats treat is sharp and they really show that excellently effectively and to the point where I straight up viscerally felt it like I was walking.

I was I don't know why I turned into Forrest Gump there for a second.

I was walking.

I was walking the the show is getting better and better.

Mark A Houston.

This is why you can never with a show like this rush the process.

It's going to come and it's going to lose people along the way that it isn't for.

And that isn't a discredit to them or credit to anyone that gets it's just some shows art for everybody.

And not everyone's going to be able to dive head first into the steps you need to take in science fiction and comedies and especially a a dark comedy science fiction series that's honestly meant to have fun.

I think, I think a lot of Carol's storyline tonight could be interpreted as comedy and her having fun.

But what's interesting and unique and special about this writing is through that.

It's a shell game.

They're doing that.

But within that, by the end of this episode, you feel it.

That's not just what they were doing.

They're setting groundwork for an emotional journey for the Faustian journey of her through this episode.

And it was done beautifully.

And I didn't know what she was writing at the end there with the paint.

I actually thought she was going to the home improvement store at the end to, to, to fix what she had burned.

But instead, in the moment when she started burning down the houses, she's like, you know what?

That beer is good.

I need help.

That's what that's what she was thinking.

He does.

He does Gary and he makes luxury meals and some people might like some of his meals and not like other ones, but the quality is there for for me.

It just comes through.

Pixie.

Stop threatening me with a good time in the live chat.

Jeepers, Jeepers Creepers.

That was too sad, says it.

It does get super emotional at the end of this episode too, with both of them dealing with their own personal defeats.

Carol can't quite make it on her own in this situation.

She needs the support of these maniacs or whatever the hell they are.

And and our buddy Mono couldn't make it through the horrible through the Barian gap.

Barian gap.

Is that, is that how you pronounce it?

Please look that up if you have, if you if you want to go in an interesting rabbit hole and not that scary spooky rabbit in the episode.

If you want to go on a fun rabbit hole, no, it's not fun.

There's some fucked up shit about that too.

Go down the trip of of learning about that learning about this gap that's out of out of context.

That could sound really dirty.

Now I want you guys to all enter in your search engine.

Open the gap for me.

I mean Barry and gap open the gap Darian Darian, thank you.

Not Barian.

What am I thinking?

What am I thinking about?

But think about that stuff that they pump into you when you get an upper GI.

I'm pretty sure half the people listening to podcast at that moment were screaming, you idiot.

It's it's Darian, not barium.

Barium is what they put into you when they do an upper GI, you idiot.

No pause.

No, no, no, no, no, no, we, we're we entered the gap tonight and there's no pausing.

That's what we say.

I need Joe to rant about this episode because I didn't love the episode the same way you guys did.

Daryl.

I appreciate that.

I absolutely do.

And give me a little bit and I'm, I'm an actor.

I will try to I will try to put on my best Joe rant and and and orchestrate what I would feel like Joe's rants about tonight's episode would be.

I can do that for you, Daryl.

I'm a professional.

I can I can try to simulate a Joe experience for you.

Let let me let me try to try to drink a little bit and get my Boston accent out and then I will try to do it.

No pauses.

I know many people that have crossed that so, so mellow banana Anna.

So have have they crossed it by foot like or by boat or backpacker stuff?

Is it is it as arduous as as dictated tonight?

Have from the people that you know that have crossed that path.

I'm, I'm curious if if some of the stuff I read is more propaganda about how dangerous it is or if it actually is that that's get one of the more dangerous places in the in the world to, to travel or the dangers more about the the the cartels and things like that that are around Zach, I'm jealous.

I'm I'm halfway there to you.

Let's see.

Let's Daryl you say it.

I'll say it like Joe like and and obviously I I love this episode.

A lot of people in the live chat did, but not everyone that's watching this show feels that way.

So if you're watching this live and you're not feeling this episode, if you're listening to the podcast later and you're missing that Joe energy, get in the comment section or leave us a voicemail.

781-990-8509 Ranch your own rant.

Give me your best Joe impression tonight.

I want to hear it.

All right here.

I'll switch this shit to voicemail and and and you don't even have to call in.

No calling in live right now.

You want to leave a voicemail right now?

Give me your best anyone.

If there's anyone brave enough to call it in and give us an impression of a Joe rant, let's do it.

But you can call it in now.

Let's see what it's DL say.

A lot of it was the same stuff we've seen in previous fucking episodes.

Cow's loneliness.

I don't like her.

I can't relate to her.

Fuck her.

That was bad.

That that was.

See, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.

I'm not buzzed enough to go full Joe yet.

We'll, we'll see.

We'll see.

We'll see.

I gotta feel.

I gotta feel more passionate about it.

But yes, if you want to call in, the rant line is open.

And that that goes for anyone listening after the fact as well.

You can call on in at 781-990-8509.

Again, that's 781-990-8509.

Give us your best Joe rant or text on in.

You better miss.

You better.

I have the voicemail line turned on right now so you don't have to be scared with me answering your calls live if you're afraid of coming on the air right now.

But if you want to come on the air, let me know in the live chat and I'll turn it on and we'll and you can actually call in and talk live.

Yeah, it does seem pretty dangerous to me, Edward.

But you know what?

Certain things are really dangerous in this world.

They are.

Here we go.

Before we get into the recap, let's get into our voicemails.

Do we?

We actually have people that attempted to Joe here.

OK, well what's this person have to say?

Hooah.

Hooah hooah.

There we go.

I like that.

That's that's some good.

That's some good Joe right there.

Hooah.

Hooah.

Yeah, there's some Joe Dirty locks.

Yeah, there we go.

There we go.

Let's see.

Let's see this one.

God damn it.

Well, I've been watching this shit for five fucking episodes and there ain't nothing, fucking nothing going on in this shit.

When is something going to fucking happen already?

So we got our Joe Impressions in the live chat.

Thank you Joe Impressions.

This is a great job.

What the fuck am I watching?

We've watched 5 fucking episodes and there's not a goddamn thing going on.

What the hell?

Oh my goodness, we're going to have to.

We're going to be using that sound drop a lot, a lot.

Joe Joe too, that that's much more easily manageable.

Joe I, I, I like that.

I like this much more easily manageable.

Joe When I don't like something, I just have to go.

What the fuck am I watching?

Just that, just that.

Here we go.

That's perfect.

That's fucking perfect.

OK, let's get into this recap.

We open up on the landscape in the sky, and we're in between Flagstaff and My Flag is staffed in Las Vegas.

As Carol is driving home, she's humming at oh, she's humming Sorry the dog distracted me in the background.

She's humming The End of the World as We Know It by R.E.M.

She stops some gas.

There's some excellent shots, the car and the gas station.

She calls the hotline again.

And I will say, as much as I love the amazing Howard Hamlin, I am also getting a little sick of the message.

I understand that's part it's part of it, but I feel like she should be going beep, beep, beep, beep, beep beep beep, beep beep beep beep beep push that button and skip of that shit.

It's it's I understand Daryl, I I really do.

I will I will make sure he knows that he was missed tonight.

So he so I make sure he he tries to come back for tomorrow for next week, but I'm I am sorry, I I'm I'm I thought he would.

I thought he would show up tonight, actually.

But can Carol text them instead of calling?

Exactly.

Can Carol?

Wouldn't Carol at a certain point in time say to them, listen, I am sick of listening to this damn voice message.

Could you shorten the message, please?

You know, I'm, I'm just saying, you know, we're hearing that after you what, the ninth time in the same day that you're hearing the damn message.

Wouldn't you be saying into that fucking thing?

Could you shorten the message?

I get it.

I've heard this before.

Just leave the beep or let me skip it with pound so, but we opened up the landscape.

It's beautiful.

She's humming the End of the World and she calls the hotline and she goes, she goes turn on pump #1 she calls back again as she's scratching off a bunch of scratch tickets too, which is ridiculous, but she's scratching off scratch tickets and she wants some red Gatorade, the real sugar ice fucking cold.

And she's almost in this moment having a little fun with it.

It seems like she's, she's entertaining herself in this world and, and I like it.

What do you think, Joe?

Look, am I watching?

We've watched 5 fucking episodes and there's not a God damn thing going on.

No, no, I get you, Joe.

I understand.

I understand what you're saying, but you know, they're trying and and it's, it's fun to watch, but but Joe, I mean, what?

Like I, you're making some good points.

God damn it.

I know, I know, I know.

And I'm sorry, Joe.

OK, so she she also sees while she's in the convenience store or in the gas station, she she grabs some fireworks and she's she keeps humming the end of the world as you know it.

And I get it.

She's grabbing the fireworks.

The fireworks are fun.

I'd be grabbing the fireworks too.

And and incomes incomes the drone with the Gatorade.

And I mentioned this on the intro, but it's totally a Gatorade product placement, like a Wayne's World, like Gatorade product placement coming on in like please stay at the Cabana Bay, get out.

And so she gets her Gatorade and it's it's really fucking fun.

And, and she drinks it and she has a little commercial for Gatorade where she goes Gatorade hit the spot and she places it down, literally places the product placement down.

And she calls again and she puts it on speakerphone and this is her new normal.

Put it on speakerphone.

She scratches some more scratch tickets and she complaints.

She says, listen, I didn't say tip it.

I didn't say I wanted this to be, you know, lukewarm.

I said, I said make that shit ice cold.

And this was not ice cold.

Do better next time.

And then she wins 10 grand on a scratch ticket.

Fucking Hey, dude, I would you, I'd tell them to give her the 10 grand.

I think she needs the money, but just just for fun, you know, she she she's she wasn't Tony's gamar, that's for sure.

Haymaker.

We've seen Carol mess with them so many times.

I'm just over it.

I hear you, Daryl.

Like for real, like if you're not, just to offer the alternative perspective for a second, I can understand some of the criticisms that some people might be having about the show that they feel like it's, it's repetitive.

It is a repetitive show where we're seeing some of the same paths and the same elements happen over and over again.

The phone calls on repetition, Carol's interaction with them and fucking with them and doing the all of them, that could feel very much grating.

If you're if you're eager for the story to happen and for things to engage a little bit faster, I can totally understand your perspective and some other people's perspectives.

Similar to what other people have said about not having enough things or people within this world to care about.

I think this show episode for me did even more to establish Carol as somebody I care about more.

And I feel like within this episode, we sort of took what we've been doing with everything, her going through the motions and actually saw her break out of that for a second at the end.

So notwithstanding what you're saying, I feel like the that was what the end of this episode was, to see her sort of break out of that.

And she can't do that because she's done that for seven episodes now.

And the same thing, the same thing.

And now it's it's driven her crazy.

And she just had to have an emotional connection with someone for a second.

She had to have a person there.

But the complaint that this was just another episode where basically I could sum this episode up if I wanted to be really really whatever I could sum up this episode with with.

Manos goes through the gap, hurts himself and they save him.

And Carol has Ferris Bueller's Day Off and tells him to go fuck themselves again.

And then eventually Zosha comes back and they hug the end.

Like if you wanted to be that and you're like, oh, it's the same thing, You know, Like she goes to the gas station, she goes to the store alone.

We're seeing that again and again.

And I get that, I do.

But this is where it's just a difference of interest levels or what you're looking for.

For me, I like the patience that this show is taking.

I like that that it's trying a unique approach to storytelling and it's coming at it.

It's building it from from infancy and really sort of sort of growing in a natural kind of way.

And I do think the plots in the in the faster stuff and the interactions are going to come.

But I think it's going to be this season was always going to be about building these blocks of this world and, and feeling and getting our characters that are going to be our main group together.

Because this is like a first act of something.

This first season is a first act of a overall story.

That being said, like, again, Daryl, I'm not going to poo poo what you're saying or, or, or what Joe was saying or what everyone was saying.

You know, I, I get it.

I like if you weren't feeling the last few weeks of this show and you're kept waiting for stuff to happen, tonight's episode didn't help.

I guess I'll say that.

And hearing everyone glaze over it doesn't help either when you're like, what the fuck?

So I get it.

I do get it.

And I will try to, as I, as I go through this episode, I'll try to keep that in mind and not just have a, have a mental and emotional television orgasm every time I talk about one of Vince's beautiful scenes and editing and his team's editing genius and the way that they're taking their time developing this character in the story.

So I can also try to keep in mind that, you know, some people might pick, what the fuck, dude?

We're 7 episodes in and literally, I hate these people, you know, So I hear you.

Let's see.

Just just got to scratch the bloon.

I'm all about the scratchers.

I have to do the same things just for fun.

I'd be pushing some skip messages, but I'd be slamming that button down.

Moni, I'm done.

It should just say at this point.

That's what I'm saying.

I would be if I was Carol, I'd be like, could you update that message, please?

And you you just get you just need to say thank you, Carol and and beep your beep.

That's some tasty scenic shot.

It really was.

It was beautiful.

It's fucking, it's perfect for me as well.

And but I understand the other side of it that you know what, like I do, I understand, but I like it.

So I'm a selfish bastard.

So she drinks, she wins 10 grand a scratch ticket, she drives off and is now singing more.

It's the end of the world as she knows it, blah, blah, blah.

And it gets cut off right before the line, which is foreshadowing for the end of the episode about how she's not really feeling fine.

And I know some people might be like, that's a lot too on the nose, but I like that kind of crap.

That's the kind of metaphoric bullshit that tickles my fancies.

I don't know what my fancy actually is.

Is that my butt?

When someone says tickle my fancy, are they talking about their butt?

Hey, Ziggy, when someone says tickle my fancy, are they talking about their butt?

So I don't know what it actually is, but I don't know that's.

An interesting question.

Tickle my fancy actually means to please or interest someone.

It doesn't refer to anyone's butt.

It's more about sparking joy or curiosity than anything else.

Thanks Ziggy for that pertinent piece of information.

OK, so making.

My circuits glow with that.

Thanks.

Oh, shut it.

Shut.

OK, Curious phrases.

Oh, my God.

Thank you, Ziggy.

Shut it.

Oh, my goodness.

OK, so.

But the more you the more you know, we got Debbie.

Debbie, Debbie, Debbie, great to see Debbie in the live chat.

Make sure you're checking out Debbie's channel and some of the stuff she's producing.

Good to see you Debbie and nothing wrong with the little tick again.

Pixie is just being dangerous in the live chat tonight.

I think she's doing it on part with I think you have fancy and Fanny mixed up.

Phil Samuel, I think you're on to me.

Honestly, I think that's what I was doing.

It's true.

And and I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say Ziggy's name, but Ziggy could have told me.

Yes, that's right.

I call it Ziggy.

OK, so and it answers.

Would you like an ice?

Would you?

I think everyone it has to be a red one with sugar and it better be ice cold or you better do better.

Excuse me for this momentary break in the action while I drink a beverage.

Thank you for this break in the action of me drinking some water halfway through the show.

OK, so she's feeling fine and at we get the it's the intro I I like the visual aspect of the intro, but still 7 episodes in, I don't like whatever audio nonsense is going on during the intro.

I'm call me, call me a spoil sport, call me a Joe, call me or what?

Call me what you will.

What are you going to say about that, Joe?

Do you think I'm wrong?

Well, I've been watching this shit for five fucking episodes.

Yeah.

And there's nothing, fucking nothing going on in this shit.

It's.

True.

Yeah, when is something going to fucking happen?

Yeah, I know.

OK, but I'm talking about the intro, Joe.

Oh, my goodness.

OK, so the guy from Paraguay reminds me, reminds me of me ignoring everybody mad sinister McCaw.

That's awesome.

I think he's AI think he is a metaphoric manifestation of all of us ignoring the world.

I like that it's we needed ice damn cold.

I needed ice damn cold.

That's what just talking like that.

That's why I needed that big gulp of water, not the big gulp of Gatorade.

I can't, I can't drink it.

I guess if I'm going to what's everyone's favorite flavour of if you're going to drink Gatorade, if you have to drink Gatorade, you know, you got a colonoscopy coming up or something.

What what are you talking about, Phil?

You know, Yeah, yeah.

You know the reasons why you have to drink Gatorade or you exercise and shit.

What is your, what is your favorite flavors of the great Gatorade?

I think I prefer green.

I'm, I'm boring The the old, the old standard.

But I I like Gator gum better than all the Gatorade.

And this show is not sponsored by Gatorade, Lemon lime or blue.

I think I'm the same as you.

Mad sinister.

I think the I was almost going to say blue as well.

I kind of like the blue one too.

San and Dimas.

San and Dimas high school football rules.

Oh no, same leadness.

Leadness says I'm tired of Carol and Daryl says I am as well.

So it's not all, it's not all glazing going on in our chat or with everyone watching this show.

You know, some people I think can't wait to have Manos be more of a character so, so they can have someone else to balance off of Carol 'cause they're not feeling Carol as a character.

And, and again, if you've been getting tired of it tonight didn't necessarily do things to help you.

Oh, we got little Arctic blast for for Pixie.

We got pickle juice.

We got.

It's not green, it's yellow.

I'm colorblind so it looks green to me.

I drink mineral salt water for electrolytes.

Non fiction says blue, yellow, red and orange.

Non fiction.

Non fiction.

Just for the record, I still look through my e-mail and I still did not see an e-mail from you for the other night.

So I'm sorry if you did send one, it might have someone else might have gotten it, but I have to apologize.

Carol doesn't deserve Zocia, says Samuel fruit punch.

Oh, we got some delicious flavors.

Oh, I love it.

OK, so she gets some fireworks.

She lights some fireworks.

She has a beer.

She starts singing.

No, she's not singing the bonanza song.

Everyone starts.

She's singing.

But it sounds like, but I'm going to sing bonanza.

We're going to go to front of a bonanza.

OK, so she's sliding off fireworks and this is the scene that was the bonus or the the leaked scene or not the leaked scene the the released scene that they do every week.

She starts howling and the wolves in the back and there's tons of wolves in the background start howling at her as well.

And Quark during this part of the episode sort of picked his head up during the episode and started howling as well.

So I don't know what was going on there, but there was some dog communication and I love how much that was the height of Carol's enjoyment.

And to some people that must be nails across the chalkboard watching Carol jump screaming and and howl at the moon.

But I love how she was just getting into her inner beast and enjoying every single moment in that situation.

Samuel says Manos and Ted Dibiase are the most interesting characters.

They definitely offer the most unique perspectives in this world and in the sense of dealing with unique energies.

What's going to happen if all the other people decide to join the Hive and Ted Dibiase there is is not is he going to want to connect with Carol and and Mano that are going to be wanting to kill everybody or find a cure?

Excuse me, excuse me.

The hive mine are Daryl says the hive mine people are nice.

They're better than the normal humans, especially when you get into it.

And I'm going to add editorialize.

That's when you get to Carol and Manos.

It's like they're just being assholes to them for no reason.

Quark is part of the hive mind.

He started to get into that eye, and he was, he was howling along, kissing me.

So maybe I'm part of the hive mind now too.

Diabetes.

I mean, diabetes, right?

Diabetes.

Diabetes.

I'm still going to call him Ted Dibiase.

I'm still calling his ass Ted fucking Dibiase.

Let's see, let's see, let's see what?

What do we got?

Let's see.

Oh, you should be, you should be in touch.

No shame.

I'm some people are howlers says Says Pixie in the live chat.

Oh my golly, gosh, I would be like kumbaya my life.

I was even a little bit scared with the wolves because I don't think they're joined for some genetic being for some reason.

Sounds like some Ace Ventura shit's going down.

I was thinking there's a, there's a funny meme of Ace Ventura as, as Manos crossing through the jungle.

I'm still calling characters by.

Yeah, like that's Paraguay guy.

That's this one that says what?

I don't know.

What?

What do you have to say about what?

What do you think about this scene about the wolves and stuff?

Joe, you've been talking about the wolves for a while.

What?

What are your opinions on that?

I've been watching this shit for five fucking.

OK, I get it.

I get it, dude.

Jesus.

OK, so she starts howling.

It's a great she's got her buzz on, she's smiling now, she's dressed for golf.

She's got a great stroke.

Carol can really swing that club.

And we we get the, the the tricksiest part of this episode.

You're Trixie and you're false hobbits.

We get this fucking suspicious rabbit watching her golf and she starts singing the Caddyshack song.

I'm all right, don't you let her worry about me.

I got to pay her the boss and she's driving the golf cart.

She's golfing, she's drinking.

And I think she was drinking.

I assume she was.

And there's a bison or a Buffalo or bullet.

Like I, I, I was looking down in my notes and saw it quick and I wasn't going to rewind until I was like, wait, is this Twin Peaks for a second?

Is this, is this out of range?

Is this what we're doing here?

And it's just hanging out there?

Was that animal in the hive or is it just choosing to hang out in the golf course?

I mean, it might just be choosing to hang out in the golf course.

It's an open field.

But I just thought it was kind of an interesting moment that I'm I still have so many questions about the animals and they they're almost trolling us with the animal stuff with the wolves howling and and seeing seeing the the the suspicious rabbit and the bison.

The bison.

OK it was a bison.

Yeah.

We got Judas Priest at one point in time.

Got another thing coming.

George RR Martin has has a wolf sanctuary in Albuquerque.

Maybe that's who was howling.

Those wolves were howling fit finish Winds of winter, George, Joe, Carol finish it for George.

Is Carol going to be the next person that they try They ever like like Sanderson or whatever?

Like everyone's trying to get somebody to finish wins a winter for George.

They're going to go to Carol now and be like Carol since you have time, finish with the winter Bisons love to golf.

OK, I've learned.

I've learned something every day.

Joe's going to say that doesn't fucking sound like me.

What are you going to say about that, Joe?

I don't know.

It doesn't sound like me.

What's Zack?

Zack.

He's a building up to something.

Maybe says it's beautiful animal by the way.

And I think it might be building up to something.

They think Knight of the Seven Kingdoms since oh, I'm, I'm joining in somebody else's discussion, JT Moore in the live chat, good friend.

JT Moore, good to see you, buddy.

If just one person on earth was psychic, then does that mean the entire hive is psychic as well now too?

I would assume.

I think what we are to assume is that most of the abilities or talents or skill sets that everybody had now exists within the hive, correct?

Is that the correct assumption to make or am I?

So by that definition, any individual can can complete open heart surgery because one individual can do it.

We have two episodes left mad.

We have next week and Christmas, Christmas Day night.

Unless they switch that like they did on Thanksgiving a couple days earlier, which they may.

I don't.

I haven't heard anything about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do to avoid Christmas night and also avoid Stranger Things again.

But we'll see if that happens.

Or maybe I'm trying to manifest that into existence because it'd be cool to get the episode early again, but we have two more episodes after this one.

I am doing the same thing non fiction.

OK so let's continue into this.

So we see the suspicious rabbit.

She passes the bison and she keeps going singing.

I'm all right don't you OK this show has a lot of little minor things of keeping things checks and balances systems and I believe unless I'm imagining things in the last episode, the check engine light was on and of course in this episode the car is dead.

It's like when you cough in a television show or movie.

2 episodes later, you have terminal tuberculosis or something.

So she looks around, she's a bunch of luxury cars in the Golf Club and she grabs a what?

People that know more about cars?

Was that a Rolls Royce that she grabbed?

Let's go into the live chat.

I'm watching Stranger Things on Christmas as well.

I cannot wait to watch this as well.

Oh, Stranger Things starts the day after.

OK, even even better.

So it probably will air.

This probably will air on Christmas Day night, which will be our season finale, where where my friend Nick and his son will probably be sitting in the background having never watched an episode of Pluribus, listening to us have this discussion about the season finale and forcing him to just watch the season finale.

That's just going to be fun.

They all have the same brain now.

Yes, whatever one knows, all of them know.

Just got, just got married.

Rolls Royce.

OK, so that wasn't Rolls Royce Georgia on My Mind by Ray Charles.

She's got singing all sorts of songs.

I would have picked the cheapest and most beat up of all the cars.

Me too.

Probably just out of fun because I feel much more comfortable driving those kind of things.

So yes, they all have the same brain.

So if one knows how to do something, they all know how to do something.

That makes me wonder, is everyone the greatest?

Is everyone the greatest drummer in the world?

Now can everyone perform in the same way?

Does everyone have the same musical or performative skills?

Is everyone the same?

I mean, how much is repetition that you learn in your body for for just muscle memory and how much if certain things is your brain?

Oh yeah, Stranger things is already oh, already rescheduled Christmas.

Oh, interesting.

Like this.

I did not know that.

Thank you.

I did not know that.

Sonic says I think it's the end of the world and fireworks are reference to the movie Independence Day.

Interesting.

I didn't think about that.

And that is a good call.

Sonic who's not just my boy, he's your boy too.

Knowledge versus skills.

Exactly Cam.

The skills, the muscle memory of it or the knowledge imprinted within you when it comes to certain skill sets, just because you have the knowledge to be able to do something, if you don't have the fine motor skills from the repetition of it, can you control your muscles in a perfect fashion to be able to do certain things?

So would it still be optimal to have a surgeon's hands working in a surgery type situation instead of having somebody that could have the knowledge of it?

But was was somebody that like played conga drums and had big fat clumsy fingers.

So we'll see.

Yeah.

Everyone can slap, slap into the base like Flea.

Hey, Haymaker, everyone could slap.

Everyone could slap it into the base.

I could slap it into the base.

Exactly.

Dare everyone could have the best sex if their body could do it because they can, because they everyone has the knowledge how to please everyone.

Does everyone have the knowledge to please everyone the best way possible because they all know how everyone likes it now.

Like you know how you always what?

What's that?

There's a movie where where some was it?

I think it might be what women want.

I think.

I think I'm thinking about what women want.

Where Mel's like in in in Marisa Tomei's mind while he's having in giving her everything she wants.

And yeah, it's could.

Is everyone like that?

Now, if Carol has sex with Zosia, does she know?

Oh, no, no, She only knows what Helen does.

She doesn't actually know Carol but if people I'm putting too much thought into this, but I bet Vince and his team put as much thought into this as well.

Gary says a short person cannot jump as high as a tall body.

They have the same mind but not a body.

A guy in a wheelchair can't walk Still if a body can't only a mind thing.

Very true.

So in certain situations, just because certain people within the hive have the knowledge to do certain things, the hive may still elect to have different individuals that have a base natural ability or body structure or some some precursor history with said thing because of the having to find motor skills to do said situation.

And keep asking these questions.

This is this is the fun stuff about the show.

Let us.

But having the knowledge doesn't mean you have the muscle memory, right?

I don't know, that's kind of what I'm saying too.

Like you would how much of certain artistic skills are more muscle memory skills and not as much having any brain knowledge, but is that still within your brain?

That's just stuff that's beyond me that I'd have to talk to somebody that studies brains and and where skill sets happen.

And it's probably all the brain.

I need someone smarter than me to to jump on here.

Sounds going to do another.

I need someone smarter than me who's smarter than me.

God damn it.

OK, Joe, I'm listening for Marisa Tomei's name to be mentioned in every street.

It's funny you said that, Sonic.

I was, as I said her name again, I thought the same thing to my head.

I was like, wow, I think I've, I think I've mentioned her at every Pluribus show I've done, including both streams on Tony's channel.

I believe I've made an excuse to break her up in every possible situation.

I'm not smart and I smoke too much, so imagine the the horrible situation I'm in.

Pixie, what's Moni ask?

Moni says.

I want to know where all those South Americans were walking.

Were they carrying?

It was about two weeks out.

What are they up to now?

I absolutely want to know that as well.

Were they all joining?

We're all the joined people hanging out during the day and all.

What are they all doing?

Are they all somewhere trying to search for a way not to pick apples?

You know, like if they're walking around too much, aren't they risking stepping on insects?

You know you wouldn't want to kill some ants or some microscopic amoeba or some shit.

River Matt.

We got some great friends in the live chat.

Good to see some old names and new names in the live chat.

Isn't Manos the most stubborn human ever?

And I thought I was stubborn.

Says 05223.

Me too.

I'm I'm I just exam a Taurus, but that's doesn't even need to imply that I'm stubborn.

Regardless of that, that just adds to my bull and I looked her up for research purposes.

Research totally, totally only research purposes.

I think everyone is to to that point because they did some sort of dusting from the skies, but you got to think for future seasons.

I almost thought it was going to happen in the mono scene.

There's got to be some off the grid person living in a bunker somewhere that's like Johnny Drama from season 24 that he was on.

Like just people that are living in the mountains in a bunker somewhere that have been hiding this whole time that are going to come out and are not turned yet.

I think that creates an interesting dynamic when there's people that can be turned, that aren't turned stubborn, always looking for snacks.

Debbie, what about the hive in Japan with no human serve doing?

Are the tribe of people in the Amazon rainforest?

In fact, I think they all, they're all infected.

As far as I know, as far as we've been told, and if we are to believe what we've been told, everyone in the world except for those 13 people are infected.

I seem to believe.

I seem to believe internally, I believe that there's got to be a few more people, at least a handful of off the grid folks that just weren't above ground and weren't amongst people enough to be in close enough proximity to get turned.

But I'm sure we'll see.

Yeah, I'm exactly.

That's why I'm thinking Gary.

I'm thinking Season 2, Manos and Carol will find more people.

Maybe that's what that blip on the radio was with Manos when he was clicking through things in the previous episode when he stops and he's making a note about that one off number, perhaps that one off number somebody else off the grid.

I don't know.

We'll see.

Party time.

Excellent.

They can't lie.

But we we have found out they can withhold.

They're they've clearly withholded several times, even if they haven't straight out lied.

A live omission isn't an isn't a lie to them I guess.

Fucking bastards.

Loneliness broke Carol.

Carol did a bunch of soul searching and surrendered herself to let go of her circumstances.

Absolutely.

And I thought that journey was depicted in a really believable, emotional way tonight.

In a funny way as well.

Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum.

Let's continue with this fucking thing.

Twins were a twins were a party time.

Excellent.

She's looking at.

So she's on the road with the Rolls Royce and then she stops the Hot Springs and she's singing Born to Be Wild.

And then she stops the Hot Springs and she starts singing Nellie's.

It's getting hot in here and she's naked swimming in the Hot Springs and am I blushing?

No.

And now she's going to a museum singing Georgia on my mind.

And she smiles when she smirks and notices one of the paintings and she takes it home and she smiles and she's enjoying her day.

It's been a decent day for Carol as she's smiling and she calls HHM and she wants to dine out tonight where Helen had her an anniversary dinner.

And she wants this meal, this meal, that meal, this meal, this meal.

And she dresses to the 9.

I mean, I mean, Carol looks Ray's unbelievably beautiful anyway, but she she looked it was a really flattering dress and she looked really pretty and she enjoys her nice evening out and and she has a bunch of different meals from different events in her and Helen's life.

And all the lights around in the background.

It looks like they turned all the lights on for her to give her a full display of the city and she eats the meal and she's like, you know, this is kind of delicious.

It's these crazy bastards.

Might be, might suck, but they sure can't cook cook a something.

I was going to say cook a something but I just stopped to cook, cook poo, cook poo here.

So points for anyone that knows that stupid reference.

So did I hear a dog barking in the scene in the moment of silence before she runs over to the piano?

I have to watch it again with the volume up but I could have sworn I heard a dog bark anyways.

So she gets up because she doesn't like the silence and she reaches it.

I didn't even know these were a thing.

This is an auto playing piano but not like one of the old timey ones you get.

You see an old old westerns.

This was this was like a newfangled digital 1.

Really cool.

I didn't I didn't know these these were a thing.

The few sci-fi.

No, I I mean I believe that they are.

I I I I feel dumb that I didn't that it didn't even occur to me that these could be a thing.

I thought she was going to sit down and play, but she plays the auto song and I Will Survive plays and she eats her meal with the music and a slow plan.

Plan out pan out for a new life for Carol and Happy days.

Phil, do you think something is up with the?

I absolutely think something is up with the animals.

Ace Ventura in the forest, Dick No, but I think something is up.

The bison was a very suspicious looking bison.

We had a weird looking rabbit just hanging out there watching her.

We have not seen any goddamn dogs.

I don't want to go down this road again.

We haven't seen any goddamn dogs or any cats.

Where are they?

I'm not saying they're in the hive or something like that, but what the fuck is going on with the cats and the dogs?

They got to be somewhere and people would say oh you're OK carry Like who gives a who gives a shit?

Do you realize how many cats and dogs there are in the world?

And all we got was 2 passing references we got.

We've heard of several times about the zoo animals being released and and mauled a few people here and there.

We've heard stuff like that.

We've seen wolves, we've seen a bison, we've seen rabbits, we've seen birds, we've seen flies, we've seen all sorts of stuff.

We've we've meant they've mentioned house cats.

Cat lover.

Two people are cat lovers.

They've mentioned dogs once.

Once.

I think, unless I'm misremembering something, they said all the dogs are all have been released off their collars.

I said this before, pretty sure if you took the collar off my fucking dog, my dog's not going anywhere.

OK, I don't care.

Like I could I could try.

I could Nymeria from the Game of Thrones that dog you know I already throw rocket get away from me dog and that dog would still want to live inside my mouth.

So where are the dogs?

Are the dogs with all the people, all the Plurbs, all the changed people?

Like, do the dogs stay with the families?

Maybe.

Does it matter?

Does anyone else care besides me, obviously.

But yes, I do think something's up with the animals.

I don't think they're conspicuous by their absence.

I tried to say, I'll try to say it again, conspicuous by their absence.

And I do think something's up.

Dogs and cats are their food.

They are.

They wait.

Oh, that's a good, good point, Daryl.

Are they waiting for the dogs and cats to die?

And they're not feeding them so they can eat them and put them inside their protein shake, milk protein shake.

Coconut says the rabbit was hiding a shake under the fluffy belly.

I think the rabbit was going to stab Carol.

I think coconut is on to something.

I don't think coconut is coconuts.

They're eating the cats and the dogs eating the cats and the dogs.

Can they, can they kill them?

They can't pluck apples.

They can kill cats and dogs like that.

Like pluck an apple, throw some damn fruit.

You can't.

You can't hurt a tree, but you could let dogs die and eat them.

OK, these plurbs don't make sense.

The bison was eating plants can't be joined.

Very good.

Very good point.

Actually.

That's an excellent point right there.

No dogs in Latin America to something wrong like in all the groups 100% the dogs are just like scattered around on the streets on the streets.

If we go to somewhere like certain cities, if there weren't humans around would be run by cats.

If you go to some cities and, and I've seen pictures of it.

I haven't actually been there, but but there is what?

What's the city in Italy that's just overrun by cats?

Is it Florence or something?

It's just cats everywhere.

I could be a miss.

Might be might be a different city, but I've seen like a friend of mine visiting showed me pictures and videos.

There's like stray cats and everywhere you go, like you go walking through the streets of like New Orleans and shit like that, there's stray dogs everywhere.

Like, and if all the owners and shit like that disappeared and you have all those dogs, they do, they all just die with the whole owners gone.

Isn't that killing them by not feeding your damn animals?

I don't know.

All right, they're eating their pets.

Everyone in the live chats, like Phil, they're eating the fucking pets.

Come on dude.

Istanbul, Istanbul, the punt.

Maybe it's just maybe I'm misremembering him.

He was on a like he had a Euro rail pass and was travelling all through Europe and shit and different parts of the different parts of and he, he's from Russia and he went over to Russia and travelled through there too.

So maybe might have been somewhere random and different.

Oh, it's OK, it was Rome.

Thank you, Debbie.

In my mind, I remembered it being somewhere in Italy.

So it's Rome has something like three 300,000 stray cats.

OK.

And I'm not fact checking Debbie's number because Debbie's because that's that's relevant to my argument.

So I'm just going to take Debbie's Debbie's facts as you know, factual, factual statistics because Istanbul is constant of nobody and instead of both constant of nobody.

But so let's say, hey, hey, Ziggy, how many cats and dogs are in the United States alone?

So I'm just curious about this number as of.

2025 There are approximately 195 million cats and dogs in the United States.

Would you like to know more about pet ownership trends?

No, that's all I want to know.

195 million cats and dogs just just in the United States just in the United States one.

195 million cats and dogs in the United.

States Yeah, I I heard you the first time.

Ziggy, shut up.

Exactly.

We don't question Debbie Fairpoint.

Yeah.

My enthusiasm.

Stop it, Ziggy.

Shut up.

Thank you.

The cats would eat all the rats and then they would have it almost as many cats as there are people.

OK, I'm sorry for the for the Lexa nonsense, but certain statistics, I just want to, you know, take a moment and actually get the real number here.

So that's how many God damn pets there are just in the United States.

So unless they're food, where the hell are they?

So to answer the question, answer the question, yes, I think something has to be up with these animals because where the bloody hell are they?

They're very conspicuous by their absence.

Ziggy is my hive mind.

Don't say anything, Ziggy.

They.

Rats will always find a way, too.

They will, though.

What about they?

No, Ziggy, shut up.

They will That.

I learned that from Splinter from Ninja Turtles.

Rats will always find a way.

Cat experts.

How do I stop neighbor cats from pooping in my yard?

You.

Discipline and wisdom.

Siri, Alexa, stop.

Oh my God, I am in a weird loop now where this fucking thing is just talking and talking in my background.

Can you stop use non they have cat repellent that's non dangerous to cats that you can kind of spray in your yard.

That that being said, your cat that the cat's just going to learn dangerous cat repellent available.

Oh my goodness, try.

Using citrus peels, dried Roux, or even chicken wire to keep cats away from certain areas.

See Ziggy, shut up, don't talk again, please.

Ziggy, shut up, don't talk again.

Jesus.

But if you listen to my AI friend in the hive mind right now, there's many things you can do that are that are non poisonous to try to keep cats out.

But good luck.

The cat's gonna sneak in your window in the middle of the night and poop in your face as you try to mess with the cats too much.

Which is kind of my point.

Don't fuck with cats.

And the cats are out there somewhere doing some nonsense.

I've seen Heathcliff.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

My volume's up.

Sorry about that.

People in the audio cast.

My volume got turned up there for a bit.

I apologize.

Seriously.

To just go in and go in and go in Pixie.

But yeah, the smell of hive citrus type stuff just does it.

I I might have to do that.

Mister Haymaker.

It might.

Yes.

Sonic, you can.

You can.

There's several things you can make your hive mind Lexa device.

You can change what you call it and you get like 4 choices and one of them is Ziggy.

Don't say anything.

I think the other ones are computer Alexa.

And there's one more.

I think you can call it Amazon or something like that.

I think it's.

Yeah, the four.

Those are the four choices that you have.

I didn't know you had another choice, but I kept saying words that sounded like Alexa and it was going off during the show and going off for different times and annoying me.

So I switched to a different.

I switched to a different word and I and I so I went with the Z word that I won't say right now because I don't want to activate it's fucking thing right now.

OK, yes, yes daddy, yes daddy.

I thank you Shelby.

I will.

I didn't know it it would do that, but I will.

I'll make sure I do that in the future and thank you.

I'm learning.

See, this is we're learning in the hivemind live chat on how to properly use my Alexa tonight.

OK, so finally after the pan out of Carol's new life that she falls into this, we get into our second character of the night.

We get to Manos, who has a gas can and he's walking down the road.

He's practicing his English.

The cat is Gray.

The cat is Gray.

Dude comes in the truck to give him some water.

He's like, you're going to get a headache and kidney stones.

Rest up.

You need to get out of here.

If you come in the car, we'll get you there.

And he's just ignoring him the whole time.

And he goes, if you need us, wave at the sky.

And I almost thought he was going to give the finger to this guy at that point, but he didn't.

He gets to a car, he does the suck on the hose.

He gets that hose deep down his throat and he sucks the liquid out of it.

And the liquid sprays all over his face.

But then he fills up his gas tank on a side note completely.

And what's all that dried milk on you, Tali?

So he gets back in his car and he pours the gas in the car.

Won't start.

But then he does his yellow dog.

Yellow dog chases the great cat.

Oh Oh my goodness.

I just realized how big this show is trolling me.

Is there something up at the animals?

What did I just talk about for 10 fucking minutes?

Caught cats and dogs.

What is Manos through this whole episode?

Practicing with his bad English where he's learning English.

The the yellow dog chases the cat again, another cat and dog reference that they're just sticking it in your face that they're not mentioning the cats and dogs.

Now I'm even going to say for sure there's something up with the cats and dogs.

They're so throwing it in our fucking faces that they're not doing it.

Fuck you, Vince, toast to Vince Gilligan.

Wow, I didn't see that before earlier tonight when I first watched the episode.

It just occurred to me now as I was reading that he was saying yellow dog chases, the chases the grey cat cats and fucking dogs.

Suck that damn hose, Mano, Suck it.

They're hinting stuff with the dogs.

And yeah, it's really obvious.

But Daryl, I I know it was really obvious, but I I smoke a lot of weed.

No, I was I totally didn't notice that I told like that totally didn't occur to me until right now.

I did not Daryl, and thank you for noticing that and even mentioning that in the chat.

Like obviously I noticed it reading the notes, but like you would have mentioned it in a second anyway.

So like I told totally missed that, totally missed that.

It's a trap.

OK, so we get back in the car.

He won't start yellow dog back talk starts the car.

He has he learns he's has his learning English tape in the car.

Yellow dog chases the great cat as he drives the path.

He's he's trying to learn English and get to Carroll, and he drives through towns.

He eventually is eventually going to come to the Darien Gap.

S Panama into N Columbia.

I mean, N yeah.

N Columbia into S Panama.

So he's getting closer.

It's the rain.

It's the darkness.

He sees the map we flash into This was a little cliche.

Whatever, It's a little cliche that we're doing the road trip to the map with like just the, the, the the point drop drawn on the map with.

I would have rather they just avoided the map thing.

I get why they were doing that just to kind of let us know where exactly he was.

But you could have done it with a, with a something within the scene.

I appreciate the cool montages and stuff like that, but but in this moment, maybe I wish they didn't use the map cliche to, to, to, to what Joe would say.

Joe would say yeah, yeah, the fucking cliche.

They do that in so many fucking road trip things.

You see the fucking map map's going bop.

I've seen that 100,000 times.

That's the Joe in my head doing that.

I didn't mind it that much, but it's probably one of my 1 minor piece of, you know, I, I would have rather them stay on the montage of all the beautiful scenery that we're having instead of cutting that with cutaways to the map.

That's hate.

Hate me.

That's my criticism.

I'm such a I'm such a such a wimp with my criticism.

You know what I got a criticism I didn't like the map editing thingy.

Such a dork.

Yeah.

Wow.

And and to to Daryl, this is Daryl's like, fuck, I couldn't be more different than this asshole Phil tonight.

Everything he likes I hate, and everything I hate, I liked he hated.

I like I like the map thing.

Phil was different.

What the fuck?

Gary says crows, wolves, rabbits, bisons, but no cats and no dogs.

You don't have to suck the hose to get the cats in your mouth like that.

Since Samuel very Induna Jones.

I like it.

So Google Maps don't work, says John a Baker.

Different from this.

Oh, OK.

Different from this show.

I mean, OK, I get you.

I get you.

I thought you were saying you like you.

The one part I didn't like you liked.

You're like, Oh well, the one part you didn't like I actually liked.

But but anyways, Gary's right, Zinks, the rats got joined.

I just feel like again, I I just I would have rather just seen to see all the awesome scenery that they were getting.

As he's getting closer and closer, he's getting better and better as English.

I was spoiled about the comeback on the cul-de-sac looking at the satellite imagery last week.

Thisbee I knew that something was seen on the satellite stuff.

I saw that in the Reddit Reddit sub, the Reddit group, but I didn't actually Click to look at it.

So I wasn't spoiled, but I knew something big something was in town that she wrote or something.

So great scenery, but not not much else to say other than he's catching fish, learning English, and driving.

That's this part of the episode.

That's literally I could just go, Yep, great scenery, catching fish, learning English, driving more music.

Pan American Highway, which is the highway I've always that some part of me is always wanted to drive as someone that's gone a lot of really big Rd.

trips.

So he's driving down the Pan American Highway until he gets head first inside, inside that beautiful gap and he's driving all through Columbia and we get kind of a whole whole visual tour through Columbia and he gets to a point where it's caught where he cannot move, go by car anymore.

And again, this is this is factual of the Darien Darien gap.

You can't you get to a certain point where you can no longer go by Rd.

by car and you have to either hike through a forest or there is what I've read.

There's also a beach area that you can, that you can go in a boat or hike down the beach, but obviously for dramatic purposes, the, the, the, the jungle works better.

And also most people that are trying to smuggle things or go through that area in reality can't go on the beach because it's heavily patrolled by the Panamanian police.

So people sneak through the arduous nature of the forest.

But some people do go down the the beach area through the pass and can kind of take a boat ride around it and kind of see the whole area.

And a lot of people do that for fun or not for fun, but for like awesome journeys.

Some people do hike through there.

There's been some reporters and some other people just, you know, nature people and hiking people that that this is one of those big, you know, hiking paths like the Appalachian Trail or something like that, that it's a big thing for people in one of the more dangerous, interesting areas to kind of hike through.

And as Anna was saying earlier in the live chat, she knows some people that have gone through there as well.

And it's it's it's very, very, very popular area, you know, or not popular, but very well known.

And it's an area I never knew anything about until this television show.

So the more you learn.

I probably did in school, but I forgot.

If Manos died, he would have deserved it for stupidity.

He should have just taken the ride.

The hive mind people just want to help.

They just want to have fun.

They just want to have fun.

Thisbee says.

I was happy to see Joe last week, but sad how negative he was.

Been watching you guys into OG Walking Dead lives.

I was happy to see Joe last week as well and I'm sure he will be back popping in before the end of the season.

I know if he's not here tonight, he's either because he's sick or he is busy.

He loves it.

He loves coming in and being your wrestling heel and and he appreciates all your hate messages, his cards and letters.

But he he may or may not be back.

We'll see if he's back.

I'll touch base with him tomorrow and see what is up and see if he'll be back next week.

But I will make sure I send him the love.

And there's some people listening to the podcast right now are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Don't tell him, but but I appreciate it.

Everyone that has all the people that left messages and left comments about last week's episode, yeah, money.

He sticks to his guns.

See, I would have taken the ride from them.

I would have admired.

I admire his convictions.

I probably would have taken the ride too in cursed them the whole time, but I would have taken the goddamn ride.

So he can't bring his car and he's having a sad moment where he's saying goodbye to his car.

And as he's saying goodbye to his car, they all come up to him and they surround him and they're like, dude, don't go in here.

It's dangerous.

There's insects and there's bacterias.

There's bacterias inside the insects that are going to get inside orifices of your body and destroy you in ways that you cannot possibly imagine.

There's nail trees that are going to prick you like a pink cushion.

There's fauna and flora and there's poison this and poison that and poison wiffle paw bats.

They're going to be shoved in parts of your body that you do not want access to.

And he's just like, screw you guys, everything you have is not yours, everything you have is stolen, and you can't offer me shit.

Burn it.

And then he goes full Targaryen on his car and he burns it just to spite them.

What a stubborn motherfucker.

I love this guy.

Oh yeah, venomous snakes too.

Don't forget about the venomous snakes.

OK?

So he enters the gap, he's deep inside there and he starts working out what he's going to wish.

He's going to say to Carol.

He he's going to say he wants to tell her.

He wants to save the world.

And yes, in fact, this is the point in my notes where, where's my camera?

Can I show you?

No, I don't want to show you my horrible handwriting, but but in fact, I did in fact write in my notes.

My name is *** Montoya.

I want to save the world.

Prepare to die.

He does start repeating it and it sounds like the my name is *** Montoya.

Prepare to die.

The situation he he's absolutely doing that.

He keeps saying it.

He keeps saying it as he's making his way through the gap.

I mentioned this earlier.

The music is happy and and victorious.

It's a victorious March, you know, as he's travelling through there.

He told them to go fuck themselves.

He did the smartest thing possible and this is where he didn't die.

But Daryl's right, I think they clearly want to show this guy got what he fucking deserved.

Because yes, I understand, fuck these guys, they've stolen everything.

But how do I say this in the nicest way possible?

Don't fucking walk when you can get a ride.

Don't walk from from Paraguay to New Mexico when you can take a plane.

You know, don't.

Don't fuck your nose to spite your face, wherever the hell that shit is called.

However that is dictated, we have the one and only Doc.

Hide you in the live chat.

Doc, Great to see you.

This is for the new episode.

Haven't seen us.

Yeah, you better peace out of here, Doc.

This is for tonight's episode.

Unless you want to know what happens.

And there's snakes.

Oh, there's lots of snakes in this one.

Indiana Jones doesn't like snakes.

There's lots of snakes.

But Doc, I appreciate you in there.

But what's up, Doc?

You don't want to hear about the, the, the peculiar Bunny peeking from the corners offering shade on to Carol.

I'm going to talk very vaguely for a few seconds while, well, Doc leaves so I don't spoil anything for him.

So.

So Manos is going to pay his hospital bills in full?

He is.

He's doing nothing free.

No free lunches for me, you hive, my bastards.

Would the hive say no if Carol asked the Hive to eat dinner with her and it's a cooked and it's cooked meat.

I think right now they would.

Jay, no.

If she had asked at any point in time, please come back to me.

Zocia probably would have showed up so I think in that moment if she had said and I'm lonely.

I want Zosia back now hung up.

She would showed up for dinner.

Yeah, I do think so.

Why is it always snakes?

Sorry, I I do a horrible Indiana Jones and his name is his name is Jonathan.

He never watched naked and afraid.

That's right, non fiction, nonfiction.

You crack, you crack me up.

So here we go.

Let's continue here.

So he is making his way deeper inside that gap and he makes it, he makes fire the next day, keeps continuing, everything's going good.

He's slicing his way through the jungle and he and the way this happens is so beautifully shot and edited together.

The sound editing worked perfect.

I talked about this earlier.

This was a perfect scene coming together for me personally.

She's she's walking.

He's doing the walk thing Bonanza and then he goes almost fell into you now you, you, you're bad.

And then he goes over there.

He goes to walk slips on a rock, grabs a hold to something that disappears.

He falls back ow right back into it.

Bam, right on his back nails through his back, not nails across a chalkboard.

This is more painful though to that even get stuck with these.

All I can say is they look like giant nails like the prickers like but they were giant prickers.

And I mean, if you're listening to this, you most likely have seen the episode and I don't know why I'm describing it like you haven't seen it, but sticks into his back and the sound that they make.

I don't know if they, it was like like they, they like they borrowed some sounds from horror movies or something like that to, to dive inside my soul and RIP out my heart.

And I just felt it like on my back.

I'm like, because I just wasn't expecting it.

I knew something bad was going to happen, but I just wasn't expecting that to happen then.

And and how quickly it happened in the moment.

And then the sound of it all.

And then, and then at the count of three, he rips himself off of it.

And the sound of him ripping himself off.

It was even God damn worse.

Oh my goodness.

One of my favorite folks, the amazing Jen Hack all the way from Australia.

Fuck, I was just listening to your music in my tent in my backyard in Australia, you effing rock.

And the Uncle Bob bit is 1 hell of an ear worm.

Thank you so much, Jenna Hack, and as I mentioned, if anyone hasn't already, please check out my band my please check out my band's new song, two piece strip or the song's not two piece strip.

The band's named 2 two piece strip and the new song is called above.

If you're on watching on YouTube, you can watch the lyric video on YouTube.

And if not, you can find on any musical platform that you can download music.

So enough of that nonsense, but thank you Jen making me happy.

I appreciate that and it was it was a lot of fun to record and I had a lot of like it was it was a really good time and I appreciate that you enjoy it and that anyone's enjoying it.

So thank you for making me blush, Miss Jen Hack.

Oh, and thank you Sonic and anyone that has checked that out that happens to enjoy it.

It looked absolutely money like I wrote in my notes and then I crossed it out.

Looks like poison, but was it poison?

I'm not sure either way.

It was painful.

Poisonous prickers on a perfect.

I can't think of another P sound right now.

It was.

It just gets pretty, pretty gross in there.

Oh, thank you so much, Phil.

I have a theory that the whole virus is just a test against humanity.

Magnificent.

I look forward to hearing more of your theory.

Do it.

Drop it in there.

And I think we've probably broken Daryl and LEDness that are they're like, dude, where's Joe?

We came here tonight to hear Joe shit on this episode.

Jen hack.

That is honestly the whole point that I create music for is so someone can do that.

Like honestly, that that's I know no bigger compliment than what you just said in the chat.

So thank you so much.

Excited.

I cannot wait for that non fiction as well.

So let's get back into this here.

So he slipped on the rock he smashes.

He's gross.

It's horrible the the nights.

The night is sultry as he heats up his machete and he cauterizes the holes in his back using a mirror and the hot knife.

It was a fucking horror show and I felt every damn burn.

Len, this is like, hell yeah, I did.

I love you, Phil.

But you know, we've, we need, we need some good, healthy Joe hate right now, right?

I know, I know, I know, I know.

It's like Joe and I are a good team.

Next day, he is continuing.

He's continuing with the music is rougher now and slower, and the feeling of impending doom is circling.

So let me says I'm fine with the show, I just think it needs more characters.

I agree.

And I think that was one of Tony's things that he was saying about it too.

He just needs more characters within this world to care about.

Excuse me after I want to push in two hours talking all by myself without, without taking a break to listen to Joe yell for 15 minutes at a time.

It's it's it's difficult here sometimes.

OK, so my subwoofer was throbbing like what he was hearing due to his heartbeat and his infections.

100% it was real.

Like you could just feel it as he was walking.

All that, all the emotion coming through with the sound effects in the music sort of spinning out of control.

I just loved it.

And yes, keep putting those Cheeches and Chongs in the live chat and Joe dirty locks and carols.

And thank you to all of our channel members that get our own custom emojis where you can throw Carol on the live chat or me or Joe or Tony or or even Kim from Better Call Saul, who is different person to Carol.

They're both in there or Cheech and Chong or or Polly Walnuts.

You do it hiking in the wild, taking established trails, perhaps on a boat or ferry him in his car.

He could have stolen a ferry.

I would have considered that if the car was that intrinsically valuable to him, he could have done that.

Or he could have said to these fucking assholes, listen, just get me a ferry, take my car to America and I'm fine, fuck you and just hate them the whole time.

Also, he has cursed at them a little bit, but none of them have died.

So again, I asked the question.

A couple people have said no, Phil, anyone can do this.

I'm wondering, is that really the case?

Or is Carol the only one with the special ability to make these things die?

I want to know that.

That's the first thing I want her and Manos to talk about.

I want her to talk about how she can stop these things by, excuse me, making them die by yelling at them.

Excuse me, magnificent says I Oh, I've not watched this show.

I just wanted to say good day and then I love Phil's music.

I spend more time on that than YouTube at the moment.

Honestly, Jen hack, that means just as much to me.

So thank you so much for jumping on in here and given that kind of energy, anytime you want to jump in any live chat and mention that stuff, I I fully support you mentioning my music.

Jen Hack, thank you.

It was so intense.

I don't have a subwoofer but that makes it even better.

I have another theory that the hive mind is like an alien form and the whole virus is just a software update.

You for you could say future invasions.

Thisby says.

And when the throbbing base became a whooping whopping of the helicopter.

It's a great audio transition.

Just some amazing editing in this episode.

I see all the fucking lawyers in the world survive.

That was a call back to Better Call Saul.

Hey, Baker universe is dangerous place and the virus pacifies man.

It's 4:20 somewhere.

It almost is 5 more minutes.

I can't believe I've gone this whole show without that.

It's nothing I can't do as easy without Joe hair.

Aussie Aussie, Aussie.

Wait wait, wait.

Mono hasn't yelled at them like Carol did Excellent point Daryl.

He hasn't.

He kind of did tonight though, right?

Like his whole you you guys are nothing like you have nothing with sort of a very negative tone, negative vibe.

But I guess he hasn't like raged on them.

He hasn't gone me in a bad day on on people, you know, just screaming, you know, hasn't hasn't Joe ranted?

He hasn't, he hasn't, he hasn't screamed something like, you know, like, yeah, like that.

Yeah, he hasn't.

He hasn't done something like that.

Right.

Is that is that true?

Is that true?

I think it's true.

Sorry.

What the hell is this?

Messages.

No, I need.

I need messages.

No, I forget.

Sorry.

OK, let's see.

He hasn't gone up to their faces and screamed at them.

No, he hasn't.

You're right.

Phil.

What do you think will happen in the finale?

Like the finale of the season, I think next episode, Zosha and Carol catch up in the first half.

She tells Carol about Manos.

She visits Manos in the hospital.

They meet and engage and they talk and they start formulating their own plan.

And they institute some sort of big plan or action in the season finale to cause some disarray in turn, or get a bunch of people out of being infected or being in the hive.

They pull a bunch of people out of the hive, I think will happen in the season finale.

Or they will do something very dangerous or Manos will go off the rails and like, it will be a step too far for Carol.

But I do think some people come out.

More people come out in the season finale.

He was rude, but he didn't scream.

Yeah, it's true.

It's true.

You guys are right, Darrell and Gary and and someone else said said it is, is correct.

That wouldn't be surprised if we see how I, I mean, we know he's there.

There's no reason not to just show him in it too, since he's the one recording that message somewhere.

So the next day he's starting to zone out and he passes out.

He whispers Carol's name as the helicopter comes down.

The Hive comes to rescue him.

So we clashed back to Carol.

It's day 48, many days later, 16 hours, blah blah blah blah blah.

Carol is still listening to music, golfing, breaking windows, listening to 80s medals, got Judas Priest.

She's lighting off more fireworks in a fun, dangerous way, listening to Stars and Stripes, drinking beer, drunk and apathetic.

The they they show a bunch of different colors on her face through the fireworks, but you can see within her face that all of her happiness and her joy for this fucking up and fucking around stuff is all melted away in in the break in time that we haven't seen Carol and we've been with Manos.

And in the time that went from the last time we saw her to the time that we've seen her now every it's like that line in the Pink Floyd song isn't nobody's home.

And nothing is very much fun anymore.

And I can't feel one of these days coming home and I feel strange as a cold, a bit cold as a razor blade tight as a tourniquet is that is that nobody home whatever doesn't matter.

I saw Pink Floyd song on the wall.

And anyways, so she's lighting up the fireworks and she lights a fire and she puts out the fire.

She grabs the hose instead of sprayed out the hose, and she goes to the home improvement store.

And I thought she was getting stuff to fix whatever she broke in the fire, whatever she burned up in the fire.

But she doesn't.

She gets some paint.

She does painting some white lines in the ground, but they don't show what she's painting.

And I'm like, what the fuck's going on here?

So she looks at this guy, she goes inside and we hear a car pulling up.

And I actually initially thought this was going to be them showing up with Manos to kind of bring them together, but it wasn't, It was Zosia.

And she approaches her very slowly, but methodically and she runs to her and they hug and it's all cathartic and they cry and and they pull out and she wrote please come back in paint is what she wrote to them in the sky.

And the the episode ends with another another classic song.

Every every episode is ended with a different classic song done in a like a like a, a foreign version of a classic song.

And that's the end of our episode of Pluribus.

Now Manos is picked up by the Hive.

He is being brought to Albuquerque probably as we speak.

Zocia is back with Carol and going to inform her pretty much right away that this is happening.

And by the end of the next episode, those two characters should be together and we should be getting to stage 2 of what this show is, which is going to be the two of them together and then seeing what everything happens from this point further.

Because I think stage 1 of this show, these first seven episodes have been Carol alone, occasionally checking in with this guy and seeing some other people around the world.

But setting up this guy is a secondary character, almost like Saul and Mike, you know, like she's the Saul, he's the Mike that's eventually going to get an episode, which is funny.

And this episode was directed by It's Greenberg or something like forget the guy's name, but he is the same guy that directed 5 O, which is the first Mike episode of Better Call Saul.

And this is kind of the first Manos episode of this show.

I'm not picking, I'm scratching.

But so I do think this episode really started to bring Manos into form as a main character.

And I think from this point on in the show, you're probably not going to have as much of Carol alone, and maybe we'll start to head in the direction that will be more entertaining for some of the people that are getting a little sick of the repetition.

I do think this is the episode that sort of sends things a little bit in another direction because it's inevitable now that they're coming together, they're both in the same place, and the Hive is back connected with Carol.

So it's not a matter of him if, it's a matter of when in the next episode Carol and Manos are going to meet, which should be incredible.

Yeah.

5 O was one of my favorite, my first, like one of my first favorite episodes of Better Call Saul.

Let me see what this guy's name is because I want to give him the full credit, and I wrote it down here.

Adam Bernstein, he's directed a bunch of episodes of Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad.

I believe more episodes of Breaking Bad, but I'm pretty sure he did 5 O and a couple of other episodes of Better Call Saul.

Episode 8 was way better than this episode.

Oh episode 8 better be way better than this episode.

Number 7 was not my lucky number since Taro.

Oh my goodness.

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You are in freaking credible.

I appreciate that more than you.

God damn know it's Phil Floyd time.

Daryl will make me sad, but I can see that couldn't be a problem.

Let's take a couple more comments, get your comments in.

If anyone wants to call on in, now is the time 781-990-8509.

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Unbelievable.

Howard should show up and say hello, Carol and go back and go to black end of season 1.

That could be how the season ends from as amazing.

We've got a phone call.

Oh my God, area code.

I wasn't I actually wasn't expecting a phone call.

Area code 626.

Welcome to the show.

What's your name?

What's your question and comment and where are you fricking calling from?

Hey, Phil.

Jonathan calling from Los Angeles.

Hey.

Hey, Jonathan.

What's up, John?

Haymaker.

Oh, John Haymaker.

How's it going, buddy?

I don't think I've ever heard your voice.

What's up, buddy?

No, I called in a couple of times on Tony's live streams.

Think you're in on it?

Maybe not, I don't remember.

I was probably too.

I was probably too drunk.

Or hi.

Yeah, probably.

Yeah, I just wanted to touch on something.

I keep hearing people online saying that they can get Carroll's stem cells from her frozen eggs.

Yep, I've I've definitely heard that too.

People talk.

Yeah, but I, I was looking it up.

It said you can't get stem cells from an unfertilized egg.

People told me, well, they they can fertilize them.

Yeah, but then they wouldn't be Carroll's stem cells.

It it would have its own stem cells.

Interesting.

So they I.

Just want to bring up that theory.

I didn't hear anybody else talking about it on the chat today.

No, honestly, that's really awesome, dude, because I wouldn't have known that kind of stuff.

I'm just not and I didn't research any of that.

So that actually is an awesome piece of information because everyone in the mother is everyone and Carol's, no, everyone is kind of mentioning that and being like, oh, I figured it out.

We're going to go to they're going to go into Carol's stuff because they mentioned that and they're going to get the stem cells out of that and use that to make an aerosol to turn it into Carl.

It was like everyone said, everyone thinks they're genius.

I thought of this.

It's an amazing thing if you use the babies.

No, no, they're not going to use the babies.

Yeah.

It wouldn't work though, because it'd be like its own stem cells.

Like your kids don't have the same stem cells as you, your parents don't have the same stem cells.

You have to get it directly from your bone marrow.

Yeah, I did in, in my worst Dana Carvey doing Johnny Carson.

I did.

I did not know that.

I did not know that, Johnny.

Yes, stem cells.

Exactly.

Yes, you are correct, Sir.

Yes, Stem.

Cells, you are correct, Sir.

Yes, Sir.

You're awesome my friend.

Thank you for all the support haymaker.

You're the best dude.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, are you doing anything with Fallout or anything like that?

Nothing yet, but I got to talk to Joe and see if he's watching it.

He might want to do something on it.

All right.

So it's like next week, I think the 18th.

Yeah, I might try to do something on that, and if not, definitely the Night of the Seven Kingdoms is the next show we're going to be talking about.

For sure, for sure.

Gotta have Dunkin egg.

Yeah, absolutely, my friend.

Yeah, cool man.

All right, it was cool talking to you, right?

Always cool to talk to you haymaker.

Talk to you soon buddy.

All right.

Good night.

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I can't wait for Duncan Egg as well.

Keep the discussion going.

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Oh, oh, I think this is I'm going to shut.

I'm going to shut up because this is a serious dime.

Jen Hack.

Welcome to the show.

Jen, You take over, my friend.

Holy shit this worked.

It did.

This is amazing and it must be costing you like a billion dollars a minute here.

Not really.

Oh, cool, cool.

It's good to talk to you, Jen Hack.

We have better phone plans in America.

We're good.

Good.

Perfect.

We invented Wi-Fi.

Good, good and I'm glad that you are on here and it's great to talk to you Jen.

And thank you so much for being awesome and checking out my music and encouraging people to listen to it.

It means everything to me.

Oh Ben, thank you for checking out my son's music.

Oh, her son's band rocks.

What's the name of your son's band again?

Yeah, they, they definitely rock.

They were.

They were very, very fucking cool.

That was the best music video and I thought it was pretty good.

Yeah, it was definitely good.

I mean, sometimes it's your son, so it's hard to look at it indiscriminately, but you're it definitely, definitely rocks.

Definitely a good band.

But yeah, I've got to admit, like, your music is going through my head at the moment.

Oh, I I appreciate that so much more than you know.

And you should check out Pluribus 2.

I think you might like it.

It's a fun show.

Yeah, I'm having problems with that stupid Apple TV app, so I missed a bit of severance.

So now I'm missing Pluribus.

But but eventually you'll have some fun shows to catch up on when they show up in other places or Oh yeah, or you have that moment.

But but that is fucking perfect.

Jen, you are incredible.

I'm going to start to wrap things up, but you are awesome.

Thank you for calling in and thank you for drunk dialing me.

I could not thank you enough.

Look, I've got my bug in the tents and I've got my glass of wine and I just want to say hello.

And I appreciate it.

And I'm going to toast you a drink right now.

Cheers to cheers to you.

Good, good.

Let me tell me, turn my camera on as I toast to you, Jen Hack and toast to everyone in the live chat as well.

You're the best.

Please call in again, my friend.

I hope you do.

OK, take care mate, Bye.

Bye.

And that's the wonderful Jen Hack calling all the way from Australia.

And thank you to Jen and thank you to John Haymaker for calling out.

And we'll keep it up.

We'll keep it open for a little while longer here, 781-990-8509.

Don't be shy if you want to call on and call on and ask question about Pluribus or pretty much anything goes at this point in time in the show, guys, did social look pregnant to you?

No, but she was wearing baggy clothes, so I don't know.

And that's the other question, would these things procreate in any way, shape or form or because of the nature that they know that they're sort of up against it in the situation where they're going to be dying out at some point in time, relatively soon, are they not procreating?

What's going on with the children?

They might not be able to, you know, people focusing on the stem, on the, the fetuses and the, the embryos.

I'm sorry, fetuses, the embryos, but they're not, we're still not completely.

I mean, we've heard kids, but there's babies around too, or the babies all in the hive too.

There's no babies in that 12, right?

You know, they're they're all, all adults.

So the, the babies are all part of the hive too.

I mean, I'm more curious about the pets than the babies.

I can leave the babies out.

But but it is what it it is what it is.

Debbie says, like I'm no scientist.

I'm going to add, I'm no scientist at the beginning of everything.

And Debbie says I'm no scientist.

But you don't look like you're pregnant after a few days.

We went from 12 days to 48 days again in this episode.

So it's a 36 day gap.

Very good point, Gary, and I think it can easily be ignored, the days passing on the bottom, but certain sections are very important that they're doing that very intentionally to show you how much time has passed between situations.

The hive babies are just like they all look like Cabbage Patch Kids.

Jen Hack, you are amazing.

And that was an incredible call.

Thank you, Phil Let us know when you get it.

Oh, my goodness, Pixie.

Pixie, all you need to do is where you're you're connected with me on social media.

Just send me a private.

I'll send you that link immediately.

No, I'm kidding.

You're you're intentionally making me blush all night tonight, Pixie.

Thank you.

She might have.

She's like, alone.

Phil show.

I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put him on tilt.

I'm gonna put that.

I'm gonna put that.

That that long haired weirdo on tilt tonight turn his ass red.

Yeah, hi, babies.

But but we learned so much tonight.

We we we did.

Now we learned that that pixie's evil in the live chat.

No, we learned that.

Well, Carol, Carol needs people.

And she's the happiest people in the whole world because she needs people.

No, we learned that and we kind of knew this before tonight's episode, but that it really got reaffirmed and hit home that Carol needs somebody.

At least.

She doesn't need people.

She's not a people person, but she needs a person.

I really hope Mono doesn't kill Zosha with her knife, but I feel like it's where it's going.

I do feel like that's where it's going to Daryl.

I hinted at that earlier.

But I do think we're going to get into a situation where Carol is going to be protective of Zosha, and Mano's not going to like that.

Mano's not going to like that.

Carol's keeping Zosha around as her her de facto girlfriend.

It's it's not, it's not going to end well or start well.

Maybe it'll end well.

It's not going to start well.

I guess that's a better way of saying it's not going to start well.

Carole didn't like people before.

Exactly.

She didn't like people before joining.

But she knows.

We learned through tonight's episode that even if she doesn't like people, she does better and she functions better and feels happier when she has that one person around her.

And as someone that is an introverted extrovert, I get that you need recharging sometimes and on both ends.

And she needed people time.

And she also felt like she caused pain to someone that did nothing but show her positivity.

And she got some sort of indifferent or or non intentional affection for Zocia because of them picking someone that looks like her character, someone that internally that we've already heard that she's thinking why she's got to be so damn fuckable.

Like Joe is yelling about that being useless.

But it wasn't useless.

It pays.

It pays direct reference to tonight's episode and the sort of building blocks that connect those sort of things to show why this was so important to Carol.

Yes, she was saying fuckable when she was on sodium, but that's because she feels some sort of intimacy connection with Zocia, because she looks like her character and because she's so fuckable.

I would take Malo's knife from him to the hospital.

Can they do that?

Can they steal?

Malos is made of much sterner stuff Daryl someone in the chat was right.

Miles's knife is Chekhov's gun.

It's going to be used for something important.

I agree with that could have been pregnant by hey.

The new box got a shocking moment.

She's definitely getting used to using the hive mind.

She she was using them like like again like I use Alexa like she was just up.

I got to do it come on come on AI.

What's what tell me you know how do I fix my oil oil heating boiler?

How do I do this?

How do I how do I blanch potatoes?

Probably, you know, like just everything.

Yes, absolutely.

I think that is the newest song title right now.

I think you guys are absolutely right.

Well, I guess I should start to wrap it up here, you guys, you know, it's it's just it's me talking all this time.

You know, you're probably, you're probably all sick of hearing me talk.

You've some of you, some of you probably miss Joe, miss the the argument, missed the discussion.

So hopefully Joe will be back next week because I have a feeling I'll be alone for the season finale on Christmas night.

So maybe if not, I will be back next week to do this again.

We'll be back two more times to do this two more times and we'll break down everything that happens.

I cannot wait to see what happens in the next episode.

This has been an amazing season so far and has me 1000% invested.

I will miss it.

Exactly.

I'm going to miss this show when it disappears for two years.

Keep talking Pink Floyd.

I could absolutely keep talking Pink Floyd.

My favorite era of Pink Floyd.

Maybe not my favorite era, but the underrated era is that early era, the Piper of the Gates of Dawn Sid Barrett era.

The early singles like See Emily Play and Apples and Oranges.

Not apples and oranges that the Pluribus people would ever pluck because they can't eat them, but the Sid Barrett apples and oranges.

And I feel like in some ways that early, early Sid Barrett Pink Floyd stuff that was being played in the London Underground clubs that was frequented by Paul McCartney and John Lennon directly had some influence on Sergeant Pepper and Magical Mysteries tours.

Psychedelic vibes that they were doing so Pink Floyd in some ways influenced The Beatles and they were in the same studio recording Piper that they were recording Magical Mystery I believe maybe it was Sergeant Pepper.

Either way, really cool stuff and Pink Floyd then developed into one of the their influential sort of soundtrack, figuring out their sound period as they developed into metal, which was really the transitional album that helped bring them into the mainstream success that they ended up being.

Songs like Echoes was a big long epic thing, but also added some sort of catchy elements and refrains.

And then songs like Fearless and Sheamus with the dog sounds of Santro Bay, which is very friendly sounding songs.

And then after that, coming out with Dark Side of the Moon, still the song that was on the top.

Charts longer than any other album in history and just so many God damn hits on that album.

Then Wish You Were Here, which is another banger of an album.

Animals, which might be my favorite Pink Floyd album.

Then The Wall, which is obviously one of the most infamous and famous albums, isn't one of the most.

I like The Wall.

It isn't my favorite Pink Floyd album, it's one of the most popular, but it also signified sort of the end of the band.

Then we had that one last album, The Final Cut with the whole band, which kind?

Not Rich Wright was gone, so it wasn't the whole band, which really fucking sucked.

I really hated the final cuts.

My least favorite Pink Floyd album, even worse than the other two albums, Mine is Roger.

Then Pink Floyd got back together for Delicate Sounds of Thunder or Tour and Momentary Lapse, a reason, which was a great album that was very Pink Floydish, very fun.

And then and then they did one more album, The Division Bell, which was OK, It was OK.

And then they did one more album after Rich Wright died, some collection album type of stuff.

Then they right before Rick Wright died, I said Rich, but it's Rick.

I believe Rick Wright died.

Pink Floyd got together for one final time at Live 8.

Was it to play a few songs?

And we got Pink Floyd together one last time for one last final performance.

And that is the very brief abridged band history of Pink Floyd.

Goodbye Blue Sky.

Shall I buy a new guitar?

Shall I drive a more powerful car?

Shall I work straight through the night?

Dark side, The moon is eternal and it defines it.

Life itself.

All that you touch, all that you see, all that you buy, beg, borrowers steal, and all you create, and all you destroy, and all that is good.

My favorite Pink Floyd lyric of all time is is has always been the song Dogs, which I'd play right now, but I don't want to get a copyright strike.

But my favorite song, one of my favorite songs of Pink Floyd, has always been the line in Dogs.

You have to be trusted by the people that you lied to.

So when they turn their backs on you, you get a chance to put the knife in.

It's a, it's such a horrifying lyric.

And it's, it's, it's a very, very good one.

And then of course, we, I'm just stalling right now because my computer is fricking freezing.

There we go.

And fearlessly, the idiot faces the crowd.

Have a good night, everybody, or have a good day when you're listening to this.

If you're listening to the audio cast, we got two more shows, but we'll be doing Pluribus stuff in the offseason as well.

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Like whatever the fucking shit you got to do, like do it because we like talking to as many you as possible.

And by we, of course, I mean my multiple personality.

Isn't that right?

That's right, I'm right.

Oh my goodness, you guys are beautiful.

It was Pink Floyd time.

Ian was asking for that.

Ian, because you're a long time member, I figured I'd do a quick Pink Floyd summary because I know Pluribus fans were dying for that.

You are.

You guys are all awesome.

Malendus and Daryl especially, who stuck with us tonight all night even though they weren't really feeling this episode.

And I know some of you listening to the podcast.

We're hoping, like I said, Joe is here to shit on this tonight and I, he's somewhat no Joe.

Where Joe is somewhere sitting somewhere being angry, thinking of all I love you guys.

I'll be back next week, please.