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The Driver's Show with Paul Marriage and Gaudy Waters.
Speaker 2What are you driving.
Speaker 1I've got a twenty fourteen BMW X one which I own, which I bought off my brother and caught a little bit on fire.
I did it a little bit, but it's fine.
Speaker 2Not a lot of fire.
Speaker 1No, it was just like, when I got out of the car, I was like, fuck, it's really smoky in the Southern Highlands today.
It's so weird.
They must be going up.
And then I got out of the car and then I was like the air underneath the cart was like wavy, yeah, and I'm like that that's a bit of fire.
I'm like, yeah, there is something really hot in this car.
And so I, uh, that's been in the shop and I don't care to think about.
Speaker 2Yeah, so it's still there.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it's going to be a very expensive fix.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1BMW's.
I fucking love them, oh swearing.
Speaker 2This is a Christian podcast.
I would prefer if you didn't in the name of my Jesus.
Speaker 1Okay, that's noted.
So I freaking love bnw's.
But when they go off a cliff.
Speaker 2Yeah they're just off man.
Speaker 1Good service though, yeah, not that good.
Not twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2In my experience, our great service.
I had a mini though, I had a Mini Cooper.
Speaker 1S yeah baby car.
Speaker 2Yeah okay, and they yeah, they were were always really nice.
Hey.
By the way, the weird thing is it might seem that paul is absent.
I'm so sorry.
It's been quite a while between recordings.
Basically, paul is no longer killed him.
Yeah, well you have so Basically what you're hearing now is Pauline Pavlo has transitioned, which is nice.
Speaker 1Thank you, congratulations, Thank you so much for being such a supportive workplace for this.
It was a big decision, but I'm definitely a better person.
Speaker 2For they did.
They love it off properly, Like, is that something you can bring in on the trail?
Speaker 1I think that you're not allowed to ask that question.
Why not because the rules say cart but yes, it's gone, it's gone.
Is that like it's gone.
Speaker 2We can't call midgets midgets like we call it like dwarfs midgets or whatever.
Speaker 1I can't be canceled on this podcast.
It's too early for me to be canceled on this podcast as Paulina.
Paul is dead, but Paulina has a clean slate.
Speaker 2Wait, till Donna finds out.
So, yes, Steph Coombs is here journalist speaking of transitioning.
I guess we could say you're making the transition into there's a lot of car journalism going on in your life.
Speaker 1There is, you know, because like truly at the core of myself as a person and is a media professional.
I'm actually a grifter, okay, a through and through grifter, And so I am.
I'm grifting out of podcasting and other stuff, and I'm grifting towards car media, which is my preferred area at the moment.
Speaker 2I don't know what grifting means.
It sounds like a subject on you, pawn.
Speaker 1It's like, if you're grifting, you know, you're sort of you're like a traveling salesman.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, you know, like, oh yeah, like a riverboat dandy.
Speaker 1Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 2Yes, I've always thought of you as a riverboat dandy.
Speaker 1That's how I see myself.
Speaker 2Because general stuff comes with her letters.
Speaker 1What can I do, precisely give me a car?
Yeah yeah, So at the moment, I just I just like cars.
And it turns out that you can get paid to do this, Yeah, sure to work that bit out, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Well some of us.
Speaker 2Can some of you can.
You not me, And you can tell by the way.
You can actually tell that STEP's the pro at this because she's the one with the laptop and I'm just scribbling shit on paper.
Speaker 1Well, I'm googling what is car?
Speaker 2Yeah, I look like I look like a nineteen eighties journalist who's just like finishing the story on the bottom of his car, like, yeah, submit, submit, I say, I just I'm basically Trevor Long.
I'll just yell my review out on the top of the town hall steps.
Do you know who Trevor Long is?
I do actually surprised many people do.
No.
Speaker 1Back in my talk back radio days.
Another thing that I used to do.
He was our tech reporter, I think when I was working at two GB.
Wow, I know, I know, I've been everywhere.
Speaker 2And I love the whole time.
Trevor's still just been a tech reporter.
Have you ever known as that Trevor Long just looks like a court drawing of a homeless person.
Speaker 1No, I haven't noticed that.
Speaker 2No, Well take another look.
Speaker 1I don't want to am I starting a fight with Trevor now?
Well, if you got to, I feel like this is a long standing fight you have with Trevor.
Speaker 2I've got no problems with trev You just called him a.
Speaker 1Court reporter sketch of a homeless person.
Yeah, that feels like you've got a fight.
Speaker 2No no, no, no, no, it's not a fight unless it's accurate and facts were good.
Speaker 1Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2That's good.
Hey, I wanted to talk to you about the kid Tasman because the launch has happened.
You got to go.
I talk driving impressions.
I don't really know too much about this car.
They have released prices now right, they have indeed, so we know prices, we know it's out there.
We know there could be other variants coming.
We know it was designed by a guy called fuck it.
That'll do, Damon, just submit it.
We know that.
Speaker 1Do we want to do?
We want to talk pricing because I have actually got it up.
Speaker 2Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you've done with.
Speaker 1I mean not up.
It's all in my head.
I'm so good at this stuff.
So you've got about ten variants coming, right, So at the top of the line, you've got the x Pro and that's that is a like a really solid off roading car.
Speaker 2And that does look good.
I will say that one.
Speaker 1Definitely looks better than I think a lot of the S line, which which has a much bigger nose on it.
So the X Pro that's going to be about seventy five thousand dollars before on road costs and then right at the other end.
But but for that as well, like you get all the you know, the transmission lock, you've got the low gear range, you've got cameras that look at the floor when you're driving.
I found that to be not at all useful, but really not.
Even SI couldn't see it, couldn't see it.
It was.
It was too mushy to sort of make much of an impression anythink.
But you know, I'm also not great at offerating.
Someone else who's better than me might get more use out of it.
Speaker 2So it's the sports bars and stuff like that on it.
Because I saw it with the sports bar, I'm like, that better be.
You've got a factory like look.
Speaker 1I think that there are accessories.
You've asked me a specific question which I have not prepared for.
I could lie, I don't know the answers.
Speaker 2To make this ship.
Speaker 1It's not like I sat in like three press conferences and was specifically told that information but at that point, you know, I was probably playing snake on my phone or something.
Speaker 2Do you know when they first launched this in tazzy funny enough.
Speaker 1Tasmanism what they did there.
Speaker 2The PR team are fucking geniuses.
So someone it was literally like the Homo Simpson car.
One of the press Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So one of the rest journalists put the hand up.
Possibly could have been Dave McCowan.
I'm not sure, but they said.
Speaker 1My editor, yes, great guy.
Speaker 2Yeah.
The first question was is it too late to change the design?
And the designer was there and he's like, yes.
Speaker 1That is superb.
That's that is that is a bold first question.
Speaker 2Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1Well, look, the design is controversial.
You can't go online without people talking about it.
I reckon the S and the SX variant are uglier than the X line X line Pro.
Speaker 2I think the X line pro is definitely to pick from what I've.
Speaker 1Heard, and you know, who am I to spread gossip on this fine established journalistic podcast that we're on.
From from what I was told, do you say that?
Just do you say that?
Speaker 2Paul?
I do, actually, and he does.
And let me tell you that the kind of guy who would that press fruit bowl that he does on the glass of that studio door.
Speaker 1Let's just say, hey, I touched that with my hands before.
Speaker 2Was out of season.
Let me just say that there is a fruit fruit.
Speaker 1Again.
I really hope that you guys wipe that down nice and well.
Yes, no.
So the rumor, the interesting rumor that I was told from a couple of people, is that there were a few designs right, and there was a design that was sort of unanimously preferred, and they were like, it's that one.
And then there was a captain's call further up in the head office and they're like, nut, we're going for this ugly one because it's and they wanted something that was really bold.
And you can't deny that it is a bold design.
It is something that stands out, and they have to do something that stands out because they are late to the game and they're in a very crowded market and what they're offering, I think is not a bad off, but only marginally better I think than what's already out there.
And people can debate that that it it hasn't gone far enough and whatnot.
They said at the launch, because I did ask the question, I'm like, I mean, this is all anyone's talking about is the way this looks.
I mean, you're concerned about that coming out to the launch, and they said, look, we think that the angst there was not mine.
The angst about the looks of this will go down when people see it on the road.
Speaker 2I agree with that, but I do too.
Speaker 1I do too.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think what's going to happen is after time.
This is like a design that is, no doubt polarizing, polarizing both, but I think it'll soften by the time people kind of get used to it and see it on the roads.
Another thing that Key's got to realize is, well, people have got to realize Key has really transition their design language a lot.
Like you look at the everything from the Evning nine and downwards the Key at K four or that.
Now they've come up with this you and it really kind of has to set in that design language that they're coming out with.
Speaker 1It does, and it's also tricky because they have to very quickly establish themselves as blokey.
And this is a hard thing because I think of care and I think of sensible, nice lady cars for driving, you know around, And you.
Speaker 2Know, I had had a care Stinger that's not Is that a senseable lady car?
I'd like to think it is.
I would like to.
Speaker 1Think which was a great car, great engine.
A couple of people said like, couldn't you put the Stinger engine in the Tasman because it's you know, but but they haven't, didn't they.
Speaker 2Hey, by the way, with that, I think they used the same one they're putting in the yan Day Palisade.
I don't know for sure.
I've thrown thrown that one out there.
Speaker 1Yeah, I love it.
How I have not prepared for any of these things, like, you know, trying to look like I know what I'm talking about.
Look, it is a two point two liter four cylinder engine, which is and I didn't feel like it was.
Speaker 2And did they talk about the toying on that they did?
Speaker 1But but you know what, towing is complicated, isn't it.
So it was like it's three point five when when we towed something around it, it felt we were towing around a two ton caravan.
It felt fine.
For all of these utes, they do over promise and you have to be a little bit careful about what your rear axle can actually take.
So if you're doing any sort of serious towing.
Think, is there any dual cab you that you really would trust?
Speaker 2There's only there's only one when it comes to towing that I fully fully trust, and that is the BYD Shark, Because yeah, I mean that is just a piece of engineer and genius in the towing department, in the off road department.
I'm being cynical, but yeah, look, so hey, one thing I did love about the Key Tasmin, especially in the Expro, the interior on this is really cool.
Like it is they've taken the bloky ute and they've made it look really posh, like it's really well set out.
Speaker 1It's the interior and a lot of people were saying this is like you know, you're you're looking that they've just signed interior out in a lot of ways.
So you've got a really nice entertainment system in the x Pro.
You've got this sort of faux leather not actual leather.
But the seats are really comfortable, electric seats, heated seats, which which is the one thing, the one thing which is a non negotiable for me, heated seats.
Speaker 2Yeah, I cannot go back.
I refuse to go I love them.
Yeah, Okay, some people don't like them.
My mistress goes, don't check the heated seats on It makes me want to poo.
I'm like, to be honest with you, everything makes you poop.
We could have any you could walk past.
Speaker 1Have you got it at like the cooling seats, maybe it would do the opposite can make yeah.
Yeah, But the heated seats in the in the front and in the back in the Expro, which I thought was a nice little and the back seats actually had a reasonable recline on them too, so because usually the back row is just miserable in these dual cabs, but the back row was quite roomy.
The car is very large as well.
Speaker 2How does it stuck up to, say, like the BYD Shark for instance, I'll go back to that.
But yeah, I think it's actually not a bad car.
But it's a bloody big bugger.
Does it feel big?
Speaker 1It feels big, and it is marginally larger than a lot of these big uts that are on the roads.
I think you need that, right, like, if you're going to have like a comfortable back row and if you're going to be sort of try and separate yourself on the market, like and they needed it to be big, and they needed it to be bloken.
You just need to look at the ads right to see how they're trying to position themselves in the market.
Speaker 2All the sports people cameo is like it's a happy Gilmore Too movie.
Speaker 1Can I tell you a story about the launch?
Go on the second night there was Tasman Town and we had no idea what Tasmin Town was.
Speaker 2And so you need a map Tasi to get around Tasman down.
Speaker 1I'm not answering that.
So Tasman Town.
As it turned out, they've taken over the town of Sephala, right, and where is that near bathist Sophala?
Beautiful mining town, very small town only has like one hundred and fifty people population.
Speaker 2I lived in Orange for a couple of months.
Speaker 1I should know it.
It's like around the corner from Oreckon.
Yeah, couldn't give a ship, but we were dropped off there and the night were you abducted, it felt a little bit like a launch.
Speaker 2You were at some wind.
Speaker 1Carrying my trauma and you just have to receive the trauma.
Speaker 2I feel like you're in a cult.
Speaker 1It felt it was an interesting night because they brought in all these sports stars who were there, Like Volkanovsky was there, Alex Volkanowski, the UFC guy, Boonie was there.
Speaker 2I mean, they got all these dudes go on regional.
Speaker 1There were nine of them, and I didn't know half of the unless it's a racing driver, I don't know any of these people.
But they brought all these guys in and it was I would describe it as like live improvisation theater.
And I would sooner gnaw off my own hand often than deal with that, because I find that very quick, you know, uncomfortable.
So you're going in and and all these guys are assuming the characters that they've been playing in the ads, so like Volkanovsky is like the chef, and like Boonie is that it's Boonie's Bakery in there.
And so the town mayor who was in the ads is like, oh, you know, hello you newcomers, like, come along and I'll introduce you to your neighbors.
And have you ever did you ever go to old Sydney Town?
Speaker 2Yes, imagine that we had something when I was growing up, because I grew up in Melbourne.
We we've got something there called Sovereign Hill and it's very it's a very similar vibe I reckon exactly that.
Speaker 1So imagine those sort of like historical open air museums or whatever, only it's it's Tasman Town and a sporting style lineup that you and I know, Volkanovsky and the rest of them, and Boonie because like it's Boonie.
Speaker 2It's Booney, it's boonievb bubblehead.
Speaker 1Yeah, yes, yes, legend and everyone else.
This was a very very stressful time for me because like I'm talking to people like do I know you from a carllege or are you some Australian sporting legend.
I should absolutely know.
Anyway, I'm just in this heightened state of anxiety and then you.
Speaker 2Put a lot of pressure on yourself.
Speaker 1You are right, no, I'm not giving you a check down.
It gets worse, it gets worse.
So where finally there's a sit down dinner part and I'm like, oh, thank you know now now it's over.
Like I'm sitting down and so this guy sits next to me and he's like, I'm Nathan, who are you?
And I'm like, holy hell, that's pretty aggressive starting thing.
I thought he was just sort of like a brash card journo.
So I'm like I'm Stephanie.
Who are you?
And then he said, oh, I'm Nathan.
Heind marsh, I'm one of the footballers.
Also, I said how are you?
Speaker 2What's wrong with that?
Speaker 1It didn't I thought he said who are you?
And he said how are you?
So I just beat a massive bitch to him and I'm like, oh, mate, I'm so sorry.
I don't know anyone here.
Speaker 2I thought you said, let's recreate that, right.
Yeah, we're sitting at We're sitting at dinner.
Speaker 1It's nice and.
Speaker 2You're just going about your business here, hey going, I'm Nathan, how are you?
Speaker 1And I say, I'm Stephanie.
Speaker 2Who are you?
Oh?
And he was like, I'm fucking Nathan from the bloody shitty football club.
Speaker 1He wasn't like that.
Speaker 2He was sorry bloody got involved in that case.
A couple of years back.
We can't talk.
But on whatever job on Celebrity Apprentice.
Speaker 1He was so nice.
He was such a lovely bloke, Nathan, and he was he was very good human about the holding in that situation.
I was the bad guy.
Speaker 2You single or what.
Speaker 1He talked about his wife and his kids.
It was wholesome, but it was a nice story.
In that story, I'm the bad guy.
I'm the bad guy.
Speaker 2He's a good guy.
Speaker 1He's the good guy.
Speaker 2All right.
So anyway, so you got on.
Speaker 1Yeah I got through.
But but you could sense how much time and money had been sort of spent on.
Speaker 2This and he's basically he's a stripper.
He's been paid to talk to you and were you don't know.
Speaker 1I don't know if they'd like that, but.
Speaker 2They do, like a lot of things on their podcast.
Trust me, I'm doing okay.
It's fine.
You don't need to stress.
You're in safe hands.
We can say what we like.
Speaker 1I just I don't necessarily endorse the messages that are coming out of this podcast.
But yeah, it was It was a really seriously like expensive and and ritzy and quite a nice event.
But it gave you a sense of just how much they need this to work, and they need it to work, and they need to align themselves with like blokes and trade's and sporting stars, and they've got to build credibility really quick.
And I think their car is good.
It drove well.
The off roading was really good.
It's really smart.
When you get off the tarmac, it does a lot of the thinking for you.
I think four years ago, this car would have been a smash hit.
Speaker 2I think like seventy five thousand dollars at the moment for a Kia and you're dealing with the trade's I think that's fine.
I think, like, I mean, it's kind of it's somewhat priced competitively.
It's going up against a lot of established blokey brands that are out there, and I don't know, it's a shaky one.
We're gonna wait and see on this.
Speaker 1Yeah, well they want to they want to be number four, So they want to.
Speaker 2Be number four.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what the target.
Well, but like to be fair, like they're up against the Highlucks, the Ranger, Azuzu D Max.
Yes, so like four is good.
But when you look at the BYD Shark, Yeah, I actually that's where their competition is.
I think, And I reckon, I reckon.
It's hard to come in with a diesel ute when there's a lot of diesel uts doing a good job that are established and you know what their resale value is, Whereas like BYD comes in with a plug in hybrid and you're like, well that's that's a compelling different offer.
Speaker 2Yeah, but this kid Tasman can do a lot of things that the BYD can't do.
Speaker 1I haven't driven the BYD.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
Look I like them, like we joke about them a bit on the podcast.
I'm a bad fanboy, Like I freaking think the Seal Performance is an excellent EV.
They make great cars in fact, like if I was to pick an EV, it would be at the top of the top of the pile somewhere.
But I think where they went wrong with the Shark is they advertised it as a fun off road car as well, and you can see that in their advertising.
And I don't know, I wouldn't confidently take this.
I'd probably, you know, I think it'd be fine on the sand on the beach possibly, But that's where I kind of draw the line.
And look, Paul will tell you he had a lot of problems going up test hills and stuff like that with that car.
So yeah, it's a little bit shaky with the off road hill climbing and stuff like that.
But I think as a daily you know, you want to check stuff in the back of a car, you need to cut the kids around.
I think it's actually great.
The tech, it's good, it feels bougie, it's really competitively priced, like compared to the top of the line Kia Tasmin say the x Pro, this is like ten grand cheaper.
Yeah on road, oh god, if that could even be fifteen.
Speaker 1I will say that the Tasman was really good offer it.
I'm not an experienced off road driver, and so I thought that this car was going to have to do a lot of thinking for me if we were going to not roll it.
And sure enough it really did.
It's only got a rear diff lock, which is a slightly limiting factor, but the traction control it is so smart that it does manage just to really chew through some fairly rugged roads.
Speaker 2You're a rugged person, I am.
Speaker 1Can't you tell?
Speaker 2I can tell so tough.
Speaker 1I'm so tough.
Speaker 2It's so tough.
You know what you need?
Speaker 1What do I need?
Speaker 2A Genesis?
I had a Genesis.
I went on a cute little road driven by Genesis GV eighty coop, as Stephan likes to call it now, a Genesis.
I took it down from Sydney to Melbourne and then up into the Victorian Highlands.
We took its skiing stop LUs Yeah, very lucks, I tell you what.
This was one of the best SUVs I've ever driven.
Really, Oh my god, it's so good.
It's so good twin Turbov six.
So it's kind of got that.
I guess the Stinger engine in it.
It's got a really strong engine.
It's just got all the lucks.
It looks good.
Mine was like this, Matt Green and yeah, the coup at the back is definitely the best looking Genesis out there.
Speaker 1Think about the Genesis is that like I always look at that car and I'm like, what is that car?
Speaker 2What do you mean?
Speaker 1They're a bit of like a mishmash of other cars.
Speaker 2They're not.
Speaker 1I look at them and I'm like, oh, you are an amalgamation of every car on the road.
I love a bit of a Yeah.
I mean, look there, they're fine.
Speaker 2They're fine, They're fine.
Speaker 1I'm sure they're beautiful on the road.
But I don't get if I see a Genesis going by, I'm not like, holy hell, really there goes a Genesis.
Speaker 2Oh my god.
Speaker 1I kind of think of them as like TMU Bentley's real tu Bentley's like with the the way that the wings kind of flare out on the Genesis badge and I'm like, oh, yeah, who are you trying to fall you know, it's like they're kind of pretending to be a fancier car than they are.
I don't respect that.
Speaker 2Really, I don't respect you.
Speaker 1I don't.
Speaker 2But you know what terrible things about my Genesis, you little bitch.
Get out of here.
Speaker 1Put me.
I haven't I haven't driven one.
Maybe there you go.
Speaker 2Get out of here, you fucking hussy.
Speaker 1Because you look at it.
You look at it and you're like, oh, is that a nice car?
And then yes, yes, and you're like, oh, it's a Genesis.
Speaker 2It's a great car.
What's wrong with it?
It's not you haven't even driven one.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2I'm going to give you some homework.
You need to drive one.
Drive the GV eighty Coop sports Back whatever they call it, and then get back to me.
Speaker 1Because I'm happy to eat my words on that one.
Speaker 2It is kitted out and it is fantastic, and it drives just as well as a BMW X six.
Yeah.
Yeah, does it look as good though, Yes it does.
It looks fantastic.
It looks really good.
It's not bullshit.
How dare you?
Speaker 1I can't believe we're having our first fight?
Speaker 2We are?
I love it?
Hey, I'm going to say a couple of names of cars right that I've driven and I know you've driven, and then you can stop on one and tell me where we could talk about.
Are you ready?
Mazda m X five.
Next, I'll get back to that gmc dnali you came.
Speaker 1Yeah, how long did you have the car for?
Speaker 2All?
Right?
This is a pissing contest, or is it?
Speaker 1You would win?
Speaker 2Yeah?
Speaker 1I've got a strong, steady stream.
Speaker 2I was afraid of what you're going to say.
Then I've got a strong name.
Speaker 1I like cars, man, it's all suspects.
Speaker 2Yeah, sorry, what was your question?
I was too busy thinking about you.
Speaker 1How long my schlong?
How long did you have the Yukon Force?
Speaker 2I had it for a week?
Yeah, yeah, which is pretty standard.
Speaker 1So I was only there for the launch of that car, so I didn't have it for a very long time.
But I really enjoyed it when we were driving around sort of the back area, sort of camera and whatever, and like big country roads.
It's like driving a couch.
Speaker 2The thing is with that car.
It is so big.
In fact, I think it's actually the biggest suv in Australia on sale right now for a bloody large car feels like a piece of piss to drive.
Speaker 1Absolutely, it's so easy.
Speaker 2And it's it's such a joy, and it's such a shame that like these American yank tanks, whatever you want to call them, they're getting a bad name, like, oh, they don't fit on Australian bloody roads.
Oh they don't fit in Australian bloody shopping shirt of car parks.
Yes they do.
Shut up, shut your fat, bloody Northern lager, bloody great Northern drinking fat, prostate cancer hole.
I can say that my dad has prostate cancer.
Speaker 1But oh well, now you brought the tone down twice.
Speaker 2No I haven't, I've brought the tone up, but just just shut up.
It's a great, big, fat American car and we need to see more.
Speaker 1Of I don't know, man, driving that, I loved it when I was out in the country, but like driving that back to Merrickville was white knuckle.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, driving around Sydney.
I took that to I took that to the work car park, which is think think like Meriton Sweets style.
Usually my Genesis loves it, but this Denali I couldn't fit it in and I had to drive it home and I had to get an uber into work.
So there is okay, the big fat idiots, So saying doesn't fit in Astrolian car parks.
Speaker 1Okay, that's yeah, some some astral city city driving.
Speaker 2Yeah, all right, you've had your way.
But like whatever, it's.
Speaker 1Very it's it's the cost of it is a bit inhibitive, like it's it's it's so expensive.
Speaker 2What is it like one hundred and seventy yeah.
Speaker 1Sixteen hundred, sixty hundred and seventy, like it is an outrageously expected car.
And but if you are a rouse hill bogan, don't say that.
I'm sorry that is that is a that is a Hills District aspirational car.
Speaker 2I think it's a cashed up man car.
Speaker 1You've got five you've got five acres and you've got two.
It could be on the gold kids that hate you.
Yeah, and then you've got no, it's a it's a Hills District broken car.
Speaker 2There is nothing Bogan about that car.
Speaker 1There is nothing UKONDINALI.
Speaker 2Yes, it looks slightly it is like.
Speaker 1It's obnoxiously large, it's ridiculous on the roads.
It is you know, overpowered and heavy, it's overpowered.
Well it's it's it's powered enough size.
Look, it was it was fun to drive.
I found the breaking a bit tricky on that car.
Actually, did you find that?
Like when I when I hit the brakes, I felt like it sort of was a bit touchier than I was expecting.
Speaker 2No, not really, I found it just maybe I'm just a shit driver.
Yeah, I just found it absolute joy.
Like I took that.
I did city and like I took it on a few road trips and stuff.
And look, if you have a big block of land, if you've got an acreage and you don't need to drive into the city, this is a great car, just because the city comes with issues.
But yeah, I don't I don't think there is anything Boganish.
If you're gonna say Bogan, I kind of think, like fucking you could throw anything.
You could put a bloody commodore or something like that's Bogan.
Speaker 1No, no, no, no, this this is this is new money Bogan car.
I will die on that.
I grew up at the supercars, Like I'm a secret bogn Hills history.
Like I'm not fighting any of this.
It's not a bad thing, but that is I reckon.
That's who their market is.
Speaker 2So what if if a cash that person like with a bit of a bit of soave, if they've got a big bunch of cash, what Suvre they driving Genesis?
They're not driving in Genesis.
Yeah, driving in Genesis.
Speaker 1That's a good question.
Speaker 2Because it looks it looks very what do you call it?
Cadillac kind of looks like I guess like they would be driving an escalade.
Speaker 1Yeah, look, I have nothing against it.
I reckon the TV screens at the back.
Nice car was very nice to drive, I agree, but like as soon as you're in sort of narrow streets, it's like it's brown pants stuff.
Speaker 2Tell you what I reckon?
You were like, yeah, the Volvo.
Speaker 1X ninety indeed, indeed, yes, So I live in Bondai now and only too at me?
How long to mention that?
And I see a lot of the X nineties.
I think the Bondai.
Though Bondo is the Porsche capital of Australia.
I think that the Porsche to resident ratio there would be ridiculous.
Speaker 2But I see a lot of it's pronounced but that's so.
Speaker 1Yeah only if you're only if you're a winker.
So I see a lot of them.
I don't think of Volvo as particularly luxury brand.
Speaker 2To be honest, really, I don't.
Speaker 1I think of them as a nice sort of mid range vehicle.
But Volvo see themselves as a BMW right up there.
And I was like, yeah, right, I know.
But from the second I picked up that car from the Volvo headquarters.
And usually when you're picking up a press car, I'm sure you've experienced this.
You're picking up from this warehouse.
They throw the keys at you, and there's just cars everywhere, and you are desperate not to scrape up the car and just break it.
Press cars get damaged because it's just chaoe.
So you have to drive it out and then you're in the middle of a very crowded suburb and so you're trying to work out how to drive the car.
It's a pretty unpleasant time, I find, But I haven't smashed anything up yet.
When I was picking up the Volvo, you know, someone from the Volvo head's office who was wearing a suit and was so sociable and and came down and it's like, you know, gave me the tour of the car, and you know, this is how you do this.
And my favorite thing about the car is this, and like I think that you'll enjoy the speaker system.
I'm like, I think I will enjoy the speakers.
Speaker 2You don't get that.
You don't get that.
Speaker 1You don't you don't like if you were picking up pretty much any other car, it's like the keys get pegged at you and you were on your own.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Yeah, and it's the roads that way, dighead.
Yeah.
Speaker 1Have you have you ever smashed a Presca?
Speaker 2Yes?
Have you?
Pavely doesn't know about this yet.
I haven't told Paul.
Speaker 1Okay, so and I don't know he's not here.
Speaker 2I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about it.
But you know what, I did pay for the damage, so well yeah, so it was the gw M Canon Alpha, big beautiful shiny ute.
Speaker 1And that is a big car.
Speaker 2It's a big but yeah, it's good.
I actually enjoyed it as a diesel.
The problem is I was coming out of a car park where and then it's it's a Dickey car park where the gate of the car park goes inwards and you have to stop at a ramp, got to swipe your security card and then the gate opens inwards.
And so by the time you've got clearance one, you've got to kind of get up this ramp, so you've got and plus dealing with the diesel.
I looked at it and I literally had less than an inch on each space, right on each side.
It was I knew it was going to be narrow.
But I've done it heaps of times.
I've you know, I've been parking there for over twelve months.
It's generally fine.
But the problem is when I sort of revved it to get up this this ramp, the whole thing just fucking came out of nowhere, like really like push forward and yeah, just I really scraped this shit out of the side.
Like it was that gate that got it.
I'm like, what the fuck?
No, yeah, panels, uh, the front the front quarter panel.
Yeah, it was bad.
It was real bad.
I mean I paid for the damage, and it doesn't change my opinion on the car.
I think the car was actually really good, and I think Great Waller makes some really good cars.
But yes, I scraped the shit out of this.
It's very, very embarrassing.
Speaker 1Oh I haven't you know, touched would But like if you're driving a lot of cars, it's a matter of time.
Speaker 2Do you want to see the photo?
Speaker 1Oh yeah, Oh, let me have a look at it.
I am.
I can see the pain in your face.
Speaker 2Oh wow.
Speaker 1Oh no, I thought it was a bit of paint.
Nah, No, that's body wine.
Speaker 2I properly fucked it.
Speaker 1No, that's that hurts a bit.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Can you see the amount of room I had?
Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, No, it was crazy.
It is.
Speaker 1But this is why I don't take out anything that's a luxury car because the cost of repairs if you mess it up, would financially ruined me.
Speaker 2Yeah, it wasn't look that I owned it.
It was fine.
They were good about it.
We did what we had to do.
Speaker 1But ah, yeah, this is the thing, Like it is hard when you were driving a car that is not your car, and especially if you're changing them, often driving their ex ninety.
I was really anxious about that car because that was a very large car and it felt big on the roads, big suv, a lot of go, a lot of guts.
But I like taking that into a car park.
If I've got a press car, often just don't go into car bucks because it's like, I can't be certain, not just me, that someone isn't going to push a trolley into it.
And it was a nice enough car that I didn't want to bug it up.
Like it was really nice inside, really nice outside.
Like I've got to reall, I've got to return this in one page.
Speaker 2It's such a it's such a brilliant car.
We've got an XC forty.
I love it.
It's such a great, little, cheap, run around car.
And it's funny because I look to spec we've got very basic.
I think it's cloth seats and stuff like that, which I was fine with.
I think the cloth seats in that one looks looks pretty good.
But yeah, I would consider these.
I would consider now, Like we were talking about this off air.
When I was a kid, of Volvo was the big fat station wagon.
Yeah, station Wagon, that's that family car.
And it was this safe car.
But it was Swedish and it was it wasn't I wouldn't have called it shit, you know what I mean.
I wouldn't have called it like Hyundai in the early days.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah, Look, it was never a bad car.
I just never found out a particularly sexy car.
Speaker 2You know.
Speaker 1It's like it didn't have any of the sort of the sexiness.
And I still don't necessarily think of it as a sexy car, but I can say that was a luxury car, and as someone who has worked an audio and who really cares about sound, they hand it over and they're like, I reckon, this will have the best sound system that you ever have.
And it did an electric car that's a bit quiet, plus all the speakers that they had.
I was listening to my own music that's on my phone, hearing stuff that I hadn't heard own music.
Speaker 2Can you imagine tell me about your music.
Speaker 1If I did have a rap album, which I cannot stress enough I do not have, you couldn't water board that information out of me.
Speaker 2I wonder what your rap album would be called.
I reckon it would be called to be Mild.
Speaker 1It'd be like milk toast the album fat.
Speaker 2Genus, fat Geese.
That's just the title of the album, that's not.
Speaker 1Yeah exactly, Yeah all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll work on the rap, right.
But yeah, I was listening to it and like, I'm a sound person.
I like, you know, good headphones or whatever, but I'm like, I'm hearing stuff from this car sound speaker, which I think it has really good high ends and really good and really nicely sort of balanced sound system.
So I rate that.
I rate that if you can get your hands on one of those, give them a go.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 1Think I was like, this is the standard.
It is very big, but it did set the standard.
I think for suv electric cars.
Speaker 2They are big, aren't they.
But they've got yeah, everything in them needs to be there.
They're so good with the storage, they're so good.
I think nowadays I would consider Volvo like just a sexy, stylish luxury brand and a luxury car.
And I think they're doing far out that ex thirty and that little run around that they've done.
That's a great little car.
A bit small, but yeah, I mean they look great on the roads.
Paul not so much of a fan, but I've got a lot of love for the for the Volvos.
Yeah, I reckon they're great.
Speaker 1You're in an electric car at the moment.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, we should talk about the five s ev Now.
Speaker 1I haven't driven.
I've never driven an MG.
I was supposed to.
Actually, on the topic of Snaffoo's I was supposed to drive Snaffoo Little issues, little issues.
Speaker 2I was spoken up words today.
Speaker 1I'm not making up words.
I've just got a good vocabulary.
I'm sorry.
I'm trying to try to bring grifter and snaffo sounds like saying.
Speaker 2I'm playing on kiss.
He's the latest out of Shaboozy and chef.
Speaker 1I'm trying to I'm trying to bring up the tone.
I'm trying to help lives.
Speaker 2That's bloody, that's carrying.
Speaker 1I'm sorry, but yeah, we I were supposed to have an MG and then I think something happened to the MG that the I supposed to be driving.
Yeah, yeah, that was it, and so I never I've never actually driven an MG, but they feel like they're releasing a new car every week.
Those guys.
Speaker 2Here's what I say about the MG.
I remember when they came out with the mg hs and all that sort of stuff, and I'm talking like seven eight years ago, they were releasing cheap SUVs and they were selling really well.
And for me at that time, I was a bit like, ho hum, whatever.
They've got their thing going on and they kind of serve a purpose.
So now what they've done is they're bringing out these cars that are well priced and their quality and I'm not like, this isn't pissing in anyone's pocket.
I'm just literally stating, you can check for yourself.
They're brought out a fleet where one all the news design language has changed, and I feel like they're settling on these cars that are just doing really well in their space.
So you look at say whether it be the HS or the ZS Hybrid Plus, I had that for a while.
That was a great car.
The MG Sedan I'm not a huge fan of, but everything else what they're putting out is just really great stuff for their space, well priced, well designed, And what I think it's allowing them to do is put out these cars that are kind of like, oh, all right, that's a bit wow.
Cool, you're actually doing that.
So that was like the MG Cyberster, for instance, Like that ev it's a two door convertible sports car.
The dealership guy called it a supercar.
He's like one hundred and ten thousand.
It's not a bad price for a supercar.
Shut up, sir, no, I love that.
Speaker 1That's cute.
This isn't as when they've got when they drink the kool aid.
Yeah, it's nice when they drink the co but.
Speaker 2It is that.
Having said that, the cyber Stories, I reckon it's a great car.
It's so fun and it's it's fast, and I actually think it's worth the dollars.
But what I'm trying to say is everything else that they're put in in their space is is quality and it's worth the price.
So the MG five s EV depending on spec, aroundabout between forty and forty seven thousand drive away, as well two battery types and range, the forty nine killer what hour battery and the I think it's a sixty two killer what hour battery somewhere along there.
So you're going to get anywhere between sort of three hundred and thirty five and four hundred and thirty five kilometers WLTP.
Just for transparency, I had the tops back, which I think is like the essence.
I mean, you're gettingses, not as good as a Genesis has everything going on to like the faux lever seeds, the heated steering wheel, which I know.
Speaker 1You love fucking love heated steering wheel.
Yes, oh god, I wish my car had a heated steering whe I've got the heated seats.
Speaker 2That's oh yeah, oh yeah, it's last.
Speaker 1I aspire to.
Speaker 2That panoramic sunnary for electric tailgate, all the all the who ha, they're taking this, by the way, the three sixty camera, the wireless phone charging, wireless Apple car play as well.
Here's what I'll say, Like forty seven thousand dollars, you're getting all that in an EV that's driving really well, and it feels lucks.
It feels way more expensive than it is.
It drives really well as a get around towner, picking up kids, doing your daily stuff.
It is just mint.
It is bang on for what it's supposed to do.
It's serving its purpose so well.
The tech in this, I will say, there's two things that pissed me off about tech.
Now, there's all the bings and bongs that we all hate that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 1The first thing you get when you get into a new car, what do you do?
Speaker 2You turn it off?
You turn it off.
Speaker 1It's like, can we just.
Speaker 2Look it's got all the tech and the cool thing I do love about this is literally with one swipe, you can go swipe, save it to your favorites button.
You got the favorites button, so then anytime you're in, all you're doing is just pushing the favorites button which is on the steering wheel, and it's all gone.
It's not all gone, like you pick and choose what you want, but the annoying stuff is gone.
Speaker 1So yeah, I hate lane assist in ninety percent of the cars.
Like the amount of times lane assist has tried to drive me into oncoming traffic.
It's not a lot, but it's enough.
Speaker 2The little jolts, yeah, like stop it, stop it.
Speaker 1Yeah, Like when it's when you're driving next to a you know, a really big truck for example, and you're in a big car and it's like, oh, I think you should be further along.
That's like, no, no, I reckon.
I don't want to be under the wheels of that truck.
I think I've got this one.
Like, let me.
I hate I hate fighting cars.
Speaker 2Yeah, who think that?
Speaker 1You know they're driving better than And I've never had it save me because I don't know about you, but I don't drive off the road that often.
Speaker 2Oh I do.
I drive into car parks all the time.
You've probably noticed.
Yeah.
No, this thing is packed full of the safety tech, which is customizable.
The one big plus for this car, and I think a lot of them aren't doing, is a lot of tech these days is getting in built in the screen, which is the most annoying af thing ever.
Right, we all agree, we don't want to be fumbling around.
What they've done is at the bottom of the screen.
It's kind of hard wired in, so you've got everything you need at that one touch.
Things like heated seats, heated steering wheel.
The climate control is physical and it's bloody easy.
The volume there is actually physical, that's all there.
Everything's kind of that you definitely need is physical, and everything that you want to have that you don't want to have to fumble in the tech is all hard wired in.
It's probably one of the best infotainment setups I reckon I've ever used.
But EV forty seven grand, top of the range.
So far, so good.
I think if I was to give it a bit of a stab, possibly driving ranges getting to me so one hundred percent is getting me around about three hundred and ninety k's, which it's published as about four point thirty, which is a bit concerning.
I'm going to have to check that out.
I suspect it could be a fault.
I'm not sure, but yeah, MG five s EV so far big tics.
Speaker 1Yeah, come on, getting in one.
Speaker 2You need to get anyone.
Speaker 1Yeah, I mean, look, when you are like relatively new to the game, as I am, a lot of this is just getting as into as many cars as possible, so you have like a sense of what is on the road and you can start sort of building a mental library of like, oh well this, this drove well in this way, but you know, compared to this and whatever.
So it's funny.
There is a there is a little game that I've noticed that you can play with most car riders or car journals, which is who do you think will.
Speaker 2Be divorced first?
Speaker 1That's easy though, that's an easy one.
But if you if you're you know, pick on my peers.
The marriage is Like I said, I am new to this game.
I cannot do that.
Give me another year and then we'll go.
Speaker 2We're going to start bitching about it.
Speaker 1But the of the new Chinese cars that have entered the market, like who do You reckon?
Will be still in the game.
Speaker 2He dominated time by d We're.
Speaker 1Still in there.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1By d MG is one that comes up a lot as well.
Speaker 2Yep, yes, but they're not specializing in just evs.
Speaker 1No, no, but just Chinese cars full stop.
Chinese cars who have come into the market, because as we all know, there's been a huge influx.
Who will actually be here in ten years.
Speaker 2It's tricky because like even Volvo for instance, is a Chinese car.
They're just like masking as a Swedish car.
Speaker 1Yeah so, but of the of the newer entrany, so like will a Cherry be around you?
Reckon?
I think Cherry is going to be saying.
Speaker 2I think Cherry's doing really well.
I think MG is doing great, but they've been in the market for a long time.
By D for me, would be probably this safest bet out of all of them.
I think if you're going to bet on car brands that won't be here in five to ten years, I'd be surprised if Leap Motor are still kind of floating about.
I had their C ten and that is easily the worst car I've ever test.
Oh my god, it's just I hated it.
I hated it so much.
It's so clumsy, it's undercooked.
It's not ready, it's not ready for the market.
It's like the user experience is just who was the focus group when they were putting this thing together?
Because it's so poorly put together.
The card, which I know Paul loves, but I hated it.
The card is like.
Speaker 1I find cards really tricky.
Speaker 2Cards, and your mobile phone.
We're past that don't have a mobile phone that's going So this card isn't proximity sensing.
It's literally you've got to tap it on the side mirror.
And by the way, it is that happy Gilmore tippity tap tap tappy and it's your fucking around with it for so long.
What else did I hate about it?
It's got no wireless Apple Car Play, It's got none.
In fact, it's it's rare.
Speaker 1Actually it's taking.
It's hard to find a.
Speaker 2Car that has In fact, it's got no Apple Car Play or Android Auto, so it's got none.
None of that.
You literally have to use whatever their elite motor apps are.
The boot was a faff around.
Yeah, I just look, I didn't like it.
It's been a lot.
Speaker 1It's kind of refreshing though, because I've had this conversation before with other people.
It is rare, I think these days to get into a car, whe're like, that's a bad car.
And this is one of the challenging things if you're writing about this industry, is that you get into it and it's like it's another above average car.
Like it's rare that you get something that I think is exemplary and it's even rareer to get something.
We're like, this is a lemon.
Like, we don't have lemons in the way that we used to have lemons.
At least we don't when they're brand new.
After five six seven years, that's when they may become lemons.
But we don't get them for five six seven years.
We get them for two weeks.
So it's kind of hard to say these days that was that was trash.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think that Zekra are good.
I think they've based themselves really well.
I think they've got good found They've obviously got a few little improvements here and there.
I think that mainly goes into software for me as a personal thing.
But yeah, I think the established one.
Speaker 1What about Jacu?
Speaker 2Jacu are good.
I haven't had too much experience with them.
I've had a little flutter, and I think they're putting together something really good.
They certainly look good.
Are they owned by the same people who own land Rover?
Speaker 1I do not have an answer to that off the top of my head.
Let's ask because we trust that.
Speaker 2Yeah, I do.
Let's try it.
Let's give it a go.
Hey, is the owners of the car Jacu?
Do they own land Rover.
Speaker 1Yes, Jaguar and land Rover are actually part of the same parent company.
They were both acquired by Tatumotors, an Indian automotive giant, back in two thousand.
Speaker 2Oh thank you, okay, Papa dumb.
Speaker 1I think that what a lot of these people are going to be fighting for is just brand awareness, because we've had this like influx of car brands and it's actually hard to keep up on you know, who's got what and where they sit in the market and whether they're good.
And I reckon that there will be a reckoning at some point or another.
There's going to have to be some of these brands are gonna have to sheath off because there's just too much.
I think there are more cars than there are people looking to buy cars at this moment.
Speaker 2So who do you reckon is going to stick around?
Speaker 1I think MG And I would also say, well, obviously byd.
Speaker 2They're just the sales are killing.
Speaker 1And they're doing interesting things.
Speaker 2Also, like the biggest ev car manufacturer in China, and they have been for years.
They've got a lot of money behind them, and they're one of the few that are kind of manufacturing everything every part of their car.
They manufacture themselves.
Speaker 1I spoke to someone who worked at BYD and they were like, oh, we got to go to a tour of the factory, right and it's like you arrive at the factory, the factory is the size of a city and it's like, oh, okay, well to go get your pass, you first have to get on the BYD monorail because it's so large you can't walk there.
So like it's got its own sort of like transport system internally because it's just and like it defies the imagination of someone in Australia where you know, where we don't really do manufactor how ridiculously huge and how much money is going into this.
So I think b White at this point too big to fail.
Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely, Cherry as well.
They're making quality stuff and it's being.
Speaker 1Well received like I was in the Ti Go four, I think, and for the price of what it is, no wonder where losing cars like the eagerness, because how could you how could you possibly compete on price?
Like it's just that the what is a cheap car has now really fundamentally changed.
Speaker 2I'll have the double check, but I think in South Africa they've launched I think It's like Emota and Cherry are treated as two separate things, and I think Cherry is known as like a luxury car brand over there, which is so wild considering like what they've launched here, the same car, same sort of stuff at an amazing price.
Speaker 1It is really hard I think for the Korean car manufacturers to sort of work out who they are in this market, Like what is cheap has just been redefined, and it's really hard.
Speaker 2I think it's great though.
I think it's good.
I think it's bringing on more competition.
I think it's people in brand new cars, in safe cars, and cars with big warranties like that MG.
I hate to bring it up again, but the MG five s ev that was like a ten year warranty.
Speaker 1I think the thing is like a warranty.
Yeah, And the same thing for the Tigo It's got like a seven year warranty something ridiculous.
But a warranty is only so good as the parts being available and is it.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 1So it's like when these things start to as all cars inevitably have their issues and whatnot, will they actually be fixable and serviceable.
I think that that is that the next big test.
And you might get people to buy your car once, but if you give them bad service and the parts aren't available and they're on a back order for four years, then what happens?
And that is the true test of a car.
And they haven't been on the roads long enough for us to know that.
Speaker 2I think, look at this stamping it down.
You're like the young event of car chournalism.
Speaker 1Thank you so much.
Yeah, just don't just no one in fact check anything I say.
Okay, if we can all agree on that, I sound very convincing.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think it's good.
Do you know what I loved you had?
You had a rant on your on your socials the other day, right, so many Yeah, yeah, sorry, but it was one of my favorite things I like to look at on YouTube, and it was I don't know if I'm allowed to say it, but it's the fat chicks at disney Lands.
Speaker 1Plus sized park hoppers.
Speaker 2Leave them alone, sorry, leave them alone, the large ladies of Disneyland, right, and they test out like the different food they test out the different foods and like the rides, and it's like it's incredible.
They'll be like, Okay, the Triple Stack was okay, and the Splash Mountain ride was okay, but if you have and they'll pan the camera down if you have a look at me.
It's been giving me thy rash.
Speaker 1I haven't seen them talking about thy rash.
I think I think it's being mean.
Speaker 2I mean, like I like it.
If you if you can't the whole thing, you're dick it under your rampit it'll keep one for a couple of hours.
Speaker 1For people are listening.
That is so unfair, you know what.
They're just a bunch of fat chicks who were who were just like, hey, I'm fat, Like here's what the experience is.
You might fit in this ride, you might not fit in this ride.
And I and here's the thing, I've got skin in the game.
I used to be a fatty, right, not not plus sized park hopper fat to be.
Speaker 2Fair about like we are we talking.
Speaker 1Look, I reckon, I'm about sixty three or four kilos now right and I would have been about eighty six.
Speaker 2That's all right, that's me now, yeah.
Speaker 1But like I didn't carry it well, so like I was festive.
Speaker 2Have you got a photo?
Speaker 1I do, but I have to dig it out.
It will put it in the show notes.
Speaker 2Can we fat?
Speaker 1Stephanie Stephan, it's like a video and it's more that it's more as well as an eighteen year old.
I just I looked like a fifty year old woman who'd gone through a couple of hard divorces, actually had two teenage sons, which she just didn't like.
Speaker 2Yeah, I didn't like her.
No, no, recent shut up and playing your fucking PlayStations.
Steph's got to get back from bloody.
Speaker 1I wouldn't have to work so hard if your dad didn't leave me for that twenty year old.
Eh.
Anyway, So like that, that was the.
Speaker 2Like, I'm not I'm making fun a little bit.
I agree, but I genuinely think it's just very it's just very entertaining stuff.
Speaker 1Like they're just like what's nice about them is they're charismatic women who are actually have good chemistry.
But you go into the comments and people are just so mean in the comments, like the bilogy costs so little.
Speaker 2Just be nice.
Come on, come on, if they're putting themselves out there like that, they've got a bloody they're gonna.
Speaker 1Like just for existing.
They're not existing now they just say like, hey, we're fat.
People were at a theme park.
We thought this and everyone's like, oh they lose their minds.
Speaker 2No, no, no, they're doing more than that.
They're going this is if you're if you're like a pluck, what do I say?
What's the correct thing?
Speaker 1By the way, they call themselves a plus size pack, but like you for coppers.
But you can you know, fat is a descriptive work.
Okay, you know I can say I was fat, and I can say that those.
Speaker 2Women are fat?
Am I fat?
Can I say fat?
Speaker 1I don't think you're fat.
Speaker 2I think I'm fat.
I reckon, I can fat?
Okay, and I reckon that, ye ship.
Anyone who sees my like reviews on install where I'm just doing this selfie thing.
Speaker 1The millennial high angle, Yeah yeah, yeah, they can tell.
Speaker 2And the amount of times I've got to breathe, I reckon I can classify as fair.
Speaker 1I think that there is actually a few interesting studies that if you are mean to people on the internet and just you know, like just say mean things, you are statistically more likely to be a cunt in real life.
So we can but like you know, if you if you if you're an asshole online, you're probably an asshole in real perl probably like just just so just if you have the choice between being an awful person online or just seeing that and being like, ah, whatever, I'm going to let that go.
And I don't actually have to be an arm in which case, in which case, like you choose the second option.
Speaker 2It is a bit I feel like, I feel like this is going.
Speaker 1To go up online.
I'm just going to get a bunch of mean comments.
Speaker 2No, no, no, no, what about those guys?
Have you seen that fairly who goes to like Costco AND's like a double chocolate chip cookie.
We're trying it right now.
I love America.
I love it.
Speaker 1No wonder you like the Yukon den.
Yeah, I'm seeing it.
Speaker 2I'm taking that thing.
Cars.
Speaker 1Yeah, look, it's just And the weird sort of dichotomy of me is that I love cars, and I love like big cars and stupid cars and petrol and whatever.
And I also like EV's But you know, I'm a bit of a dirty tree hugging greeny as well, and I just try not to think about that.
But there is something about the ridiculous consumption of America which I find very entertaining and I'm kind of admire.
It's like, look at you, guys, that's exactly what I care about.
Speaker 2Just get in.
There's what I'm talking about with the plus iosed pack.
Speaker 1Yeah, and the yukondinyality like yeah that is that is as big in as of Knoxes as a car.
It's good for you.
Speaker 2Yeah, you did it.
I wonder if they drive a yukondinale.
Speaker 1Oh, they'd have to.
Speaker 2See I did say that I'm allowed to.
I'm allowed to have the tables have turned.
Speaker 1Oh, now I'm the bad guy.
Sorry for anyone who actually wanted to hear about cars in that bit.
Speaker 2No, that's what we're all about.
You're putting this podcast on some sort of a pedestal.
We barely talk about cars, all right, Yeah, will get along.
Speaker 1I feel like I listened to you guys once when and I said, they know what they talk about.
They're kind of talking about car.
Speaker 2Yeah, we'll get we'll get to cars eventually.
Yes, But there's a lot of like wading through the ship and just just crap that we talk about.
Speaker 1But hey, if you do want to listen to me rand about dumb shit on Instagram at Koomball's Koomballs at Koomballs, my last name is Koomb's Koomballs is mine?
Speaker 2How we spelling that m B l E S.
You know you're going to get a whole heap of men following you.
Speaker 1Like you know what, I'm always I'm always happy to have new symps.
Speaker 2Have you ever got like a creepy dam.
Speaker 1I've got a really nice one once from a guy who was like, I just want to pay you to exist And I'm.
Speaker 2Like, ah no, but not what does that mean?
You to exist?
Speaker 1Let's just pay me to exist?
And I'm like, but then I was like, look at this profile.
I'm like, oh man, you're not rich enough to do that, Like you can't.
Speaker 2Is that a nice way of going, Hey, here's two hundred bucks, which you No.
Speaker 1No, it wasn't even like you should have an only fans.
It's like, you know, he was probably like a little pay pig.
I don't want to take money from someone who's.
Speaker 2I totally will and I'm open to that ship.
Yeah, if you want to pay me.
Hey, by the way, if anyone's listening and wants to DM and pay me two hundred bucks, I will.
Speaker 1You'll take the money, I will get my ill do a little dance for it.
Speaker 2I will get my butt out, I'll get my butthole and I'll.
Speaker 1Be up and I will give you two hundred dollars to not see your butthole?
Speaker 2Would you get?
Yeah, pay me to bucks.
Right now I'm getting I'm getting my ass out.
Speaker 1It's like, yeah, I worried to Yeah like that, that's how you could actually make money.
Yeah, it's like reverse only fans.
Speaker 2Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1It's like every day I get two hundred.
Speaker 2Bucks, I get two undred bucks.
Speaker 1I'm not going to show you my bunghole.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm going to threaten.
I'm going to threaten to get my dick out.
Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's why I reckon new business models.
Speaker 2But I want three hundred bucks to keep it in.
Speaker 1I reckon people would.
Speaker 2Pay for the health and safety of people.
Please, we do not want to see your tiny pinos.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Anyway, this is the next iteration of the Driver's Show.
Speaker 2Yeah, whatever it is.
We're wrapping up, by the way.
I feel like we've talked about have we talked enough?
Have we missed anything?
I don't know, do you know?
So Paul's been away everywhere, and one of the places he was at is Goodwood because he loves a little good Wood, and I was five kinds of jealous.
So what I've kind of done is I'm making it my little New Year's resolution.
Oh right, yeah, So I know it's like we're mid year, but I kind of said to myself, so this time next year, I'm definitely doing Goodwood.
Yeah.
Speaker 1Do you think that's going to happen?
Speaker 2See, I've got this thing called radio ratings, and I don't know if they'll let me go in.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's the thing.
You just have to pull a really convincing sicky.
Yeah, have a little mental breakdown.
I could do that, Yeah exactly, Like.
Speaker 2That's pretty common in my game, and they'll believe it coming from me.
Speaker 1And then you can do a podcast about men's depression or something, and then then you're.
Speaker 2We can talk about our problems.
Yeah exactly.
I have said that to Paul so many times.
I said, if we're going to get this podcast up, you need to start fucking crying.
I need you to talk about your mental health as I need you to share.
I need you to be vulnerable.
Speaker 1I would love to see him being vulnerable.
I don't know if if Paul could do it.
Speaker 2We're looking at him right now, we can see the photo right now.
Do you think every morning he looks in the mirror and just goes, why did Jesus make me so deformed?
Speaker 1He has the cold dead eyes of a killer.
Speaker 2He does.
He's very were wolfy, he's very hairy.
Speaker 1And I actually tried to get writting work for car Expert?
Speaker 2Did you the ghosted me?
Speaker 1Oh?
Speaker 2No, way to reply?
Speaker 1No, No, it was he well, yes, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2But Paul you bitch.
Speaker 1Well I don't.
I don't think I got in touch with Paul.
Actually someone else in the team.
But that's fine.
I'll let that go.
I now have a few little places I write for and it goes through.
Speaker 2Well yeah, yeah, many publications I am.
Speaker 1I am many well storied publications.
Speaker 2Hey, before we wrap, you have a three cars to go into a dream garage.
I'd be keen.
Speaker 1Oh man, that's too hard, No, it's not.
Speaker 2Let me help you out one classic one EV.
Now here's the deal.
I always think at the moment where I'm at in my headspace, is you kind of it's like a topic of bad depression game, So you kind of have to have, like I reckon, it's a good idea to have like some sort of hybrid or EV, preferably EV and plus a supercar.
Speaker 1I honestly I'm honestly stumped by this.
If I was going to go something old, i'd want something a little bit weird.
I think, like nineteen eighties cars really beautiful.
So I would consider like a Mitsubishi Starion, for example, which is I don't think that was particularly good car to drive, but the ad campaign for the Starion at the time was quite like sort of punky, sort of new wavy, really cool, really sort of retro Japanese campaign new order.
It was quite beautiful in the car itself.
It's funny, how you know, when you're a kid, nineteen eighties cars look a bit, you know, ridiculous, but now they're so cool like that sort of like really boxy aesthetic.
Speaker 2You look at even like the Only like I'm a Porsche fanatic, you look at even like the nine to eights, they were like what the fuck?
Speaker 1Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, they look kind of cool now yeah they do.
So I'd want something kind of silly, you know, Like i'd want a car and like in good condition, but silly good condition.
Speaker 2EV.
Speaker 1The X ninety is is top of mind, literally because I was just in it and I haven't driven a lot of EV, so I know that one is good.
I am a bit of a BMW fan.
I would love to drive some bmwev's.
Speaker 2Probably one that doesn't catch on fire like yours.
Speaker 1To be fair to my car.
It's an X one from like twenty fourteen, so you know it is at that time where it just catches on fire occasionally.
But I love I'd do the Batist twelve hour, oh every year.
I love the Bathist twelve hour.
And the BMW is the one.
We're just shockingly like shockingly beautiful.
New M twos are good, you know, speaking of cars that sort of grow on you, like the BMW with the sort of toothy grill looked ridiculous, I think when they first came out and they released something and it looks really absurd, and then they sort of pull it back a little bit in later iterations, and so like I think the X five M is a good looking car like that looks like a weapon on the road.
Yeah, beautiful, like that really so sharp.
Speaker 2I've been looking at the X three and the X five and forty eyes and yeah, they look they're just solid, They're so good.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it's a Mercedes New Air Class error as well, because that would be oh, i'd be interested to know how that goes.
Speaker 2We don't talk about Mercedes on this podcast, don't we.
No, no no, because my dad got his MERK stolen quite recently.
Really yeah yeah, and Mercedes refused to turn on the tracking device.
It's a whole thing, right, Oh okay, some of the reels, it's all in there.
Speaker 1Yeah, because the GT you know, AMG Like I find those really cars like big, big fronthood, so maybe maybe one of those.
Speaker 2It was really disheartening when all that happened because I was like, I'm never going to fucking buy a Murger gam.
Speaker 1But and then you see one and you're like, oh, they're beautiful.
Yeah, it's so nice, Like I forgive you.
It's like it's like a on the crazy Hot Girlfriends goal, right, like it's crazy hot but treat you bad, but so hot.
That's like, I'm sorry, babe, come back to you.
Speaker 2Crazy hot girlfriends never going to bring you a sign you for lunch, that's the problem.
Speaker 1They're not they're not, but they're so hot.
And then you know you've seen with them and everyone's like wow, look at that, like look at that, so like that's that's it.
Speaker 2She's home maintenance cost you a lot of the mechanics I.
Speaker 1Know, yeah hah ha.
But but also she's hot.
Yeah I would.
I would be considering you know, some AMG tootle ridiculous thing, any anything BMW would be great.
Good pics yeah yeah, so look I mean good pics, but also something silly, you know a little silly.
It's something, you know, something that's little drive and ridiculous.
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And on Spotify and all that bullshit.
I don't know.
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Speaker 1For tuning in to the Driver's Show with Paul Marrick and Gordie Waters.