
·S4 E44
The Kids Are All Right: Messy & Cargo Short
Episode Transcript
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Speaker 2Hi.
Speaker 3I'm Sienna Jacole and I'm Leanna Holsten, and.
Speaker 1Welcome to Toss Popcorn, the podcast where two idiots watched every film on the AFI's one hundred Greatest American Movies of All Time, the Very Slightly Less Racist tenth Anniversary edition, and are now watching films directed by women.
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Today we're watching the kids are all right?
Speaker 2I love lesbians.
Speaker 1Great warning.
Speaker 3There will be spoilers about this lesbians old film.
Yes, exactly, let's go lesbian Lesbian's old Lesbian?
How many lesbians old?
Speaker 1Are you?
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Speaker 3Sienna?
Had you seen this movie before?
Speaker 1I think you know, I think I actually had, but maybe i'd watched Maybe i'd watched part of it because I was surprised my prediction.
Oh and what about you, I don't know.
I now know that I hadn't.
Speaker 3Okay, but I will be surprised at whatever I said in my prediction.
Speaker 1Well, would you like to hear my prediction?
Speaker 3I'd love to hear your prediction?
Here it is okay, Hi, Leanna, this is Sienna.
Speaker 1I'm about to watch the Kids Are All Right.
I predict that a lesbian couple's life is is made complex when one of them, yeah, has an affair with Mark Ruffalo.
Question.
And also the guy from I think one of the sons or one of the children is maybe the guy who's in Hunger Games?
Speaker 2And so is that right?
Speaker 3Oh?
Oh my god?
Speaker 1Yeah?
Zathura?
Wow?
So I really remember the plot of this.
Speaker 3But Zasura is the board game that takes you to space?
Speaker 1Is that right?
That sounds right to me?
I think about math and the colors annoyed.
I'm thinking aliens in the attic.
Hmmm, it feels like The Baby where there's an alien in the attic.
I think it takes you through space time.
Oh that's even worse.
Okay, well, I'd love to hear your prediction, Leanna.
Speaker 3Okay, here it is high Cna, Leanna.
I'm about to watch the Kids Are All Rgged.
I don't remember any specific details about this movie that I have not seen, so I predict it's gonna be about a white family.
Speaker 2Is this one where they go to the pool for the summer?
Speaker 1No?
Speaker 2Or is Paul Rudd in this?
Speaker 1No?
Speaker 2Wow?
I don't think either of those are correct.
Speaker 3But if they go to the pool, I think I actually have seen it, Okay, in which case I don't really care about it.
Uh yep, love you by Wow, what movie were you thinking of?
I haven't figured that out.
That's awesome.
There's some movie you have seen it.
I've seen a movie where it's summertime and this kid keeps going to the pool and it's again, it's like a white family and it might have Paul Rudd in it, but I don't know.
Speaker 1That's awesome.
Again.
Speaker 3I think it's a film about family dynamics.
And I definitely watched it because it was on TV one time, you know, years ago, back when I lived in a home and back when we lived in a society where you would turn on a TV, yeah, and have television that you just like scroll through channels of Wow, a different age.
Oh my god, girl, have you heard about this Netflix Warner Brothers acquisition?
Speaker 1No, we're doomed.
What's happening.
Speaker 3We're so doomed.
Netflix is acquiring Warner Brothers, which already acquired HB.
But listeners so scared.
Speaker 1It's just like.
Speaker 3There's famously laws, there's supposed to be laws in place forbidding this there's antitrust laws.
But I guess all that meant is we we do not have trust in our society.
Speaker 1Mm hmmm, We're cooked.
It's over this.
It really felt like watching a movie from another time.
This one.
Speaker 3Yeah.
We had ten We literally, we had hope, we had Obama.
Yeah, we had what else was going on in town?
I thought a lot about Obama during this movie.
Really, yes, I was like, Obama is president.
Obama is president.
So many things were happening where I was like, uh, Obama.
Yeah, she's like compost, We're gonna compost Obama as president.
I'm sorry, it's an Obama era stance.
Now we're like Obama a novelty and stance.
Yeah yeah, now we're like we're composting, but they're still not taxing billionaires and they're taking jets from Santa Monica to West Hollywood.
Yeah, but anyway, let's try composting.
Speaker 1Oh good, Okay, I'm now understanding why I saw a lot of posts about certain things that it was about that this acquisition.
Speaker 3Oh yes, I just know that that.
Speaker 1Means I understand lots of what that means.
And also it scares me how much I don't understand.
Like, yeah, I don't know all the this.
I know that Warner Bros.
Must Own things that I don't even know about, you know.
Speaker 3For sure, my and I know this is not correct.
But when I read that initially, when I read the headline, I thought, Okay, so that's the last two companies and now one is eating the other.
So now there's just one company.
No, and I don't think that's that far off.
Speaker 1Wow, I guess one Bright said for us because we're with iHeart as Eventually maybe we'll get a Netflix contract.
Speaker 3Yeah, maybe we'll Maybe we've been acquired by Netflix and we just don't know it.
Hello, Ted Sarandos, if you've stopped being transphobic for a second, could you just let us know if we've been acquired by you?
Speaker 1Are they?
Speaker 2So?
Speaker 1Are any of these on network television?
Are any of them related to network television?
Girl?
I don't know.
Speaker 3Do we still have network television?
Speaker 1Because there are governmental organizations that do regulate that somewhat such that Donald Trump could take stuff off the air, right, But now it would be like through him having a tech bundy that he would maybe do that anyway.
Right?
Oh yeah, old baby girl.
But hey girl, hey girl, what else is going on, Well, girl, you said it's Christmasy, and it's Christmasy here.
Speaker 3We had our office Christmas party this week, and once again I cannot hang.
Wow, I cannot hang with finish drinking culture.
I've been hungover two days in a row now because Mama, I should not start drinking at noon and keep drinking until six pm.
It's a bad idea.
Oh hey, girl, girl, I did my first ever escape room this week, and it honestly was very fun.
Speaker 1Are they fun?
Speaker 3But my kookie thing about it was I left it being like, I want to do one by myself.
Speaker 1You're like, forget these chumps.
Speaker 3I want to figure out.
I want to see if I can figure out by myself.
And also with no hints, because they were giving us a fair amount of hints.
Speaker 1I don't like that.
Speaker 3To make sure that we actually.
Speaker 1Got out, I always say no hints please.
Speaker 3Oh I love that.
Speaker 1No hints please.
No, I'm paying for this.
I don't want any hints.
No.
Speaker 3Whoa, I didn't know that was even an option.
Speaker 1It's okay, it was your first one.
Speaker 3I think I was really good at it, and I think i'd be I would be better at it by myself.
Speaker 1Okay, that would be a really fun thing for us to do together someday.
Oh my god, after you've done one by yourself.
I would love to do an escape room with you.
I feel like we'd be really good at it.
Speaker 3I think we would, And I also don't think we'd kill each other because we've already had to figure out how to run a business.
Speaker 1Together completely completely true.
Speaker 3So we know how to be uh frank with one another.
Yeah, but not take it personally.
Yes, we've been through the most stressful things you can be through, which is taxes, which is taxes, which is taxes.
Speaker 1Wow.
I'm so excited you did an escape room.
This is huge for the pod.
Huge news for the pod, big pod news.
Who did you go with?
Because I know that you said that you'd want it to be a specific environment.
Speaker 3It was.
It was part of our work Christmas party.
Speaker 1Okay, okay, So how was that?
It was a work event.
Speaker 3Honestly, I think it was good because when you're with your colleagues, you have to retain a degree of patience that you don't have to with friends or family.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that's to maintain a veneer of politeness.
That's so true when people around you are being idiots.
Yeah, and that's not to say people were.
I think there were very some real assets on the team outside of just me yeh.
And it was honestly, unexpectedly very fun.
Speaker 1Oh, I'm so glad.
What was the theme?
Christmas?
Speaker 2Oh?
Speaker 1Christmas game through?
I just think they're fun.
You know why riddles are fun?
I love a brain game and somebody put in work to make it like just just an immersive enough that it's something you couldn't have thought of your on your own.
Yeah, and you're like, Okay, it's just something where I understand.
When I go, I'm almost always like, yes, that was worth money.
Mm hmmm.
I see the work they put in, Like, and this one was great because it wasn't my money, that's even better.
Wow, that's that's really exciting for the pod.
Speaker 3Thank you, Yes, thank thank you everybody.
I know we'll probably be getting a lot of congratulatory messages.
Yes for Mama's First Escape, Big.
Speaker 1Escape, Mama's Big Escape.
Wow, that's gonna be my theme for next year.
That's gonna be my twenty twenty generally.
Yeah, Mama's Big Escape.
Because you're sort of all about Mama's Big Escape.
Speaker 3That's how I escape.
Speaker 1I do want to.
I want to escape.
Okay, okay, girl, girl, Hey girl, Oh, I just ordered some dresses for a wedding that I'm going to our friends.
Speaker 2Oh this one.
Speaker 1Yes, I'm ordering form dresses.
Okay, so yes, these are dresses for cold weather.
I'm doing newly for the first time, not to sponsor it.
To have you ever done like one of those online subscription things.
It's like one of those you can you can rent clothing kind of thing.
Speaker 3Oh.
Speaker 1I love that, And it's yes, so that you get to try out all these like fun, different different pieces and then just send them back.
But also this is so genius because if one of these dresses works out, then I can just mail it back while I'm in New York because afterward, I'm going to go visit New York City afterward, and I don't want to have to lug it around.
So because it's one of these subscription whatever services, I can just mail it away from wherever I am.
Unfortunately, I don't know if things will fit because it's any I never know what size anything is.
It's impossible to know.
There's no way to know.
It's impossible to know.
I don't think any dress has ever quote fit like a glove.
Speaker 3No, well, it's a dress.
Speaker 1Anyway.
Speaker 3Imagine if you wore one big glove.
Speaker 1Okay, let me imagine that for a second.
Which finger do you think that would be?
I was I was not imagined.
I was imagining the top, oh or the part the hole, so the and then my legs were in like a like a in the finger with five tentacles.
Yeah.
And then the tail was more of a tail.
Yeah what what tail?
Like the train?
I meant the train, the tail, you know, the tail the dress wags around?
Speaker 3Okay, yeah, well, listeners, send in your illustrations.
A woman was to wear a glove as a dress.
Where do you think do you think everything would come out of?
Speaker 1Yeah?
I guess I did tell you guys about my dress this last time.
Well, you know what, I'll let anyone knows if I ever get.
Speaker 3Because you've got two huge weddings coming out.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's so exciting.
Well, Leanna, I want to talk about the film.
Speaker 3Yeah you know what?
Yeah?
Speaker 1What did you think?
Altogether?
Speaker 3To be honest, altogether, I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed it as well.
I was just like, this is it's it's just it's telling.
Speaker 1It was a story that they told through the film medium, through the media in a good job.
Speaker 3Oh my god, you have to do a synopsis.
My god, you saying it's a story they told through the medium of film reminded me that, all right, although that's basically it.
Yeah, all right, here we go, a lesbian story told through the medium of film.
Speaker 1The kids are all right.
Nick and Jules are struggling with their marriage, their lesbian marriage, you know, their kids, Laser and Jonie decide to research their the their mom's sperm donor slash, their biological father.
They meet him and they click with him.
Jules, who's played by Julianne Moore, is struggling with her career and general career identity, and she starts working at Paul's property doing sort of landscape architecture.
They are two lost souls and they randomly start hooking up.
Everyone finds out eventually, and it's terrible.
But they're all gonna be okay, we think, and probably forgive each other someday because marriage is hard.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Then Jeweles goes to college.
No, not Jewles, jels mom, Joony goes to college.
Speaker 3Jewels goes to the College of Life.
Speaker 1Jules has an affair and goes I'm sorry, I gotta go to college.
Speaker 3I got to enroll the end yay.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, well it was a really nice story.
I know, it was nice and I thought also an interesting premise.
Speaker 1Yeah, and there were moments where I was laughing a little bit, being like this is kind of it felt like at a time where the idea of like a modern family was really novel.
You know, like they're like, wow, this is how they're doing families these days.
How modern cool.
Yeah, in a way where they would make some little jokes where I was like, lool.
But even through all that, I was both like, I'm really quite enjoying this, and it's more than that.
It's like just a it's a story about a family who's going through all sorts of changes.
And then also I was like, it's nice.
It's nice that if this wasn't represented that much, I guess that they were representing it.
And yeah, it was just an interesting story them trying to meet there, Yeah, their dad.
The threats were the threats.
I don't know, it was like a small story.
We were enjoying that.
It wasn't like all like the most insane existential threats of all time to their family, you know.
Yeah, we got to get through this time.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you'll excuse me, I am trying to figure out my career.
It can be kind of hard out here, so I don't know.
Maybe I'll try looking up with Mark Ruffalo.
We'll be right back.
Can't hurt, cannot hurt.
Speaker 3Well, let's get into our phone notes where we read the notes the other person took on their phone while watching the film.
Yes, Siana, you first noted Gay Moms and Vampire Weekend.
Obama is President.
Obama is President.
Obama's president.
Leanna, your first note is I just want to play.
Speaker 1The WI.
Speaker 3Film.
That's nothing against this film, that is very Obama era.
I just really I've been so busy that I've not had time to play the WI in a long time, and I yearn for it.
Speaker 1The fact that we are going on our separate journeys and we're still we're both finding ourselves playing video games and going to escape rooms is very exciting to me.
That's really beautiful.
Yeah.
Did you know that?
Speaker 3I learned when my family was in town recently.
My brother dabbed and I said, did you just dab?
And he said, yeah, I've been trying to bring back dabbing, And I said, I've been trying to bring back dabbing, both of us separately in different nations.
That's so beautiful.
An ocean away have individually been dabbing.
Speaker 1That's so beautiful.
When the time is in the year of twenty twenty five.
Mm hmm, that is so beautiful.
I just can't believe.
It brings a tear to my Oh.
Speaker 3Yes, okay, Sianna, you've asked what do we think of Mark Ruffalo?
Speaker 1What do you think of Mark Ruffalo?
Speaker 3I love him, Okay, I have specific reasons why I love.
Speaker 1Okay, that makes sense to me.
Yeah, I was the only person who feels the same way that I do about Mark Ruffalo.
About Mark about Mark Ruffalo is my brother, and I just found out that we feel similarly in our separate lives.
I just found out over this last holiday.
He put it really well where he's like to me, because I never really get Mark Ruffalo.
I don't have I don't have a problem with him, but people love him so much that I'm like, when did this happen?
It's kind of like my little Sebastian, you know in yes rec where yeah, Ben like little understand.
Yeah, sorry, sorry, I didn't understand.
Speaker 3A little Sebastian.
Speaker 1Wow, that is a really loud siren.
Oh you can hear that.
Speaker 3It's the police coming to arrescue.
For your tepid opinion on Mark Ruffle, it's tepid.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Basically, just in high school when there's someone whoever, everyone's like, that guy is awesome, He's the he's the bomb.
I love him, and then I like chat with him and I'm like, he's totally fine.
I don't I don't get it, but he's I think he's a good actor.
I enjoyed him in this movie, but I just people will be like, oh, Mark Ruffalo, and I just don't get it.
And I didn't even know he was supposed to be a heart throb until this movie.
When my roommates were like, I didn't know that until this movie, okay, and I said, he's hot.
Okay.
Speaker 3My love for Mark Ruffalo stems from he plays the Hulk aka Bruce Banner in the Avengers movies, in the Marvels, the MCU, and he's a sweet little gentle boy and in real life he's been very outspokenly pro Palestine.
Yeah, I do, which I like very politics.
Speaker 1I respect his policy is quite a bit and from like early on as well, yeah, for like he is a king in that way.
Speaker 3Yeah, so I do really love that.
All that being said, I hated this character.
Speaker 1He was so he was so annoying.
Speaker 3I hated this character so much everybody.
I think there were a couple of things about this movie that I really hated which were not really the fault of the film, one of which is that it was set in La Yeah, and I just hate Los Angeles, yeah yeah, and I'm tired of movies being set there.
And the other one was just this concept of a man and this type of man who exists where everything just happens for him, yeah, including like becoming part of this beautiful family.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3And also like women happen for this kind of man in a way that so infuriates me.
But it is so true and so real, and I find that so annoying, like they get with women or just general just like he's a really passive guy, like he wasn't pursuing anything, but people would just like happened to it.
I'm having to put in any effort, and I don't respect.
Speaker 1That or like that at all.
Yeah, totally.
He I like the ways that they pointed out that he was annoying in this MM.
There were just ways where I was like, yes, this is thoughtfully directed by a woman, like being like, I don't know, I'm just weird in that way.
I don't know.
I just like that, it's just weird.
I would have killed him.
I would have killed him.
Everybody's so mad at Nick in this movie, but she's right to think he's I am her, she is.
I love her.
Speaker 3Every opinion she had was correct.
I love Annette Benning in this movie.
Yeah, I love her so much.
Speaker 1So good.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 1By the way, the parts of LA that they were hanging out in are like where I live.
There was a shot that was like of my street, and then besides I were like in silver Lake and then the hills.
Yeah, wow, Okay.
It was cute the ways that they were predicting sort of my generation of people in LA right now.
The things that they kept putting the lesbian moms in, I'm like, that's just what all my friends wear.
Oh the oh ah, the like baggy clothes.
And I loved Julianne Moore's shorts in this and yeah, god, she was in a pair of cargo shorts.
Yeah, they were cool cargo shorts though.
Yeah, kend of Bermuda's.
I don't know how she pulled it off.
Speaker 3Legs, that's the secret.
Speaker 1There were moments where I just I was looking at her legs and I was just like, wow, m R.
Speaker 3Calves specifically, I was like, they're so strong.
Speaker 1They're the shape.
They're the best shape, the best shape.
Leoni, you said basketball not for long short king.
He is kind of a short king, ding Josh Hutton excuse me, yes, famously short.
Speaker 3I didn't know.
Speaker 1Wow, that's made me a short boy.
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3Yeah, of course, and me less.
I think he's a chill dude.
He seems chill, but yeah, his character is talking with Mark Ruffalo about what this team likes to get up to, and he was like, yeah, I play sports like I do this one and this one in basketball.
And I was like, you do basketball?
Speaker 1Yeah, sure, okay, sure thing small fry uh huh yeah, maybe maybe shrimp basketball.
Oh my god, the atuare basketball.
What Leanna you said, Clay seems like he kicks dogs.
That is an excellent prediction.
Speaker 3And also yeah, yeah, well it was when the dog came up.
I was a feared that Clay was gonna kick it.
But then he did something something I've never heard of.
Speaker 1Leanna.
You even noted it right below this note that you didn't highlight.
You said, you said, let's pee on his head?
What?
That was so sad to me, and I'm very happy that Josh Hutcherson was like, no, what are.
Speaker 3You talking about?
I've never I've never seen a living being have an instinct of I'm gonna pee on this other living being's head.
Speaker 1I feel like, do you mean?
I feel like that is what disturbing?
Disturbed teens are.
Speaker 3Like, let a pee on its head?
What what are you talking about?
Why would you ever want to pee on something like that?
I don't pee on its head?
Speaker 1Huh.
I think they're just like, what kind of have an ideal vandalism can we do?
It's like cruel, I don't know.
Yeah, it's very jackass, corpsybe.
Speaker 3That he was very molded by jackass.
I would believe what was his name, Clay Clay?
Yeah, yeah, this is what happens when you leave a boy with too many freckles alone for too long.
He got sun damaged and now he wants to pee on dogs heads.
Such a weird bitch.
Speaker 1Now he wants to pee on dogs heads.
He was just insane to me, he was insane.
He was really He literally, out loud, said what he made them film that trick?
And I don't know what the trick was.
Speaker 3It was him falling on a dumpster.
I had to mute the film.
I was scared it was gonna be like a breaking down.
I thought he was gonna handle it.
Speaker 1I don't know how he didn't break something.
Speaker 3I don't know how he was fine.
He probably he surely wasn't.
Speaker 1He fell.
Speaker 3He surely wasn't.
Speaker 1And that's why he needs to pee on a dog's head.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, totally, because he's broken many joints, but he's not told anybody.
Leanni, you said, now he has to pee all the time.
Speaker 1I have to be somewhere.
Speaker 3The next thing I see I'm peeing on.
It's just what I gotta do.
I'm destoyed.
Speaker 1Leanna, you said, ma'am, you're being a bitch.
Are you talking?
Who are you talking about?
Probably not being Julianne Moore.
Speaker 3Oh to the man she was working with, Oh my god, when she fires him, that was because he definitely knows she's sleeping with Mark Ruffalo.
Speaker 1I was like, this is a different kind of white guilt, because you feel guilty and then you're being white.
Speaker 3By just firing anybody who were whitely abusing someone and like accusing him of having a drug problem.
It was insane.
Speaker 1Also, did you notice that their affairs started after they were making fun of Luis's accent?
Yeah, they were like joking around about it, and then they started making out.
I was like, what is this?
Speaker 3Yeah, and then they broke up after she fired him.
He was the glue.
Speaker 1He was the glue that held it all together and she messed it up.
That was wild guilt.
Speaker 3Leanna, you said, I have gasped so much during this film.
Oh my god, Oh my god.
I kept being shocked.
The first time I gasped was when it cut directly to the middle of an intense sex scene with Mark Ruffalo and that unbelievably beautiful who worked at the restaurant, so beautiful.
Speaker 1It was.
Yeah, I didn't know.
I was speechless.
Speaker 3It was unprocessable to me.
Yeah, That's where I was like, yeah, is Mark Ruffalo.
Speaker 1I'm not trying to be mean, but he's like for heart throb or I get it, I get it to an extent, but they just put him with a gorgeous, a gorgeous model goddess lady ys his default.
Speaker 3It's also like, I didn't know people were banging like this in twenty ten.
Yeah, And I didn't know that that was allowed to be portrayed on screen.
Yeah, in twenty ten.
I was really scandalized.
Yeah, it was very graphic.
Speaker 1Mm hmm, it was very graphic.
Speaker 3It was very graphic.
And then everything I just kept They're kept being surprised, Like when they kissed and you wrote, oh, why did they kiss?
Speaker 1It was surprising.
Speaker 3I guess she was gonna go kiss cheek.
Speaker 1Was she doing that like out of habit of kissing her other loved ones on the cheek or was she saying goodbye to him by gissing all the cheek because in movies people kiss on the cheek all the time.
People don't do that all the time in the United States of America in the US, and if you're European, you do it on both cheeks.
So yeah, and then they just start making out in a crazy way, which I I got the thing.
I got the thing of them being like lost souls and that she's like it's just like so weird and there's so many emotions that this is like I get that, there's no it's just kind of a weird, exciting thing for her or something, you know, it's just something.
Speaker 3It was something I get that she could do this and still be gay.
Speaker 1That was so funny.
Later on the phone call where he's like, let's do this and she's like, I'm.
Speaker 3Gay, I'm gay and then hangs up.
Speaker 1I loved that really cracked me up.
Speaker 3I did love that a lot.
I appreciated how his character was treated by the family by the end of it, Yeah, that he wasn't really a part of it, because I do think like, oh, yeah, you that's ft.
Speaker 1It was interesting.
Speaker 3It was that these people and yeah, I really likes being very selfish.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know this is a later but when when Nick is like, this isn't your family and he's like no, no, no, I know, and she's like no, you you don't know, Like.
Speaker 3This just is not your family, go away, Yeah, I was like, yeah, it.
Speaker 1Really isn't his family because we've only met, we've been watching this movie.
He's been here the whole time for us.
But he's just a man who's like it's nice if he has a nice effect on their lives, but like he can't be a big part of it.
That's no, Like I can't come in and blow up this family.
He wants to be a part of all of this, and she wants to have a different life in some ways, to be on a different path.
Yeah, hmmm, he was kind of a perv.
He was so flirty.
She was very, very flirty.
Like I know that it happened randomly, but also he'd been kind of like, oh, let me look at these papers.
Oh yeah, it looks good, looks good like ill.
Speaker 3You generally, yeah, sensual vibe.
It was a bit of a leg I think.
Speaker 1And then he's looking at her thoughts.
Speaker 3Yeah, he was looking at her way tail, and I said stop doing that.
Also, I thought that the conversation with him and Mia wassack House at the end, Who's she's a very iological father.
She's actually good inness.
I thought that conversation was really weird because some of the dialogue made it made it feel like they were talking about a romantic relationship that which they want.
Speaker 1To portray that when we've seen so many relationships between the older men and younger women.
Speaker 3True as well, but she's like so you like the affair you had with her, Like uh huh, does that mean what we had was nothing?
Speaker 1Oh yeah?
And I was like that just sounds.
Speaker 3Interested talking about is a relationship.
And I get that it it is, it is a relationship, but it's like, I don't think they quite captured that there was nothing going on there.
Speaker 1Right, And then yeah, yeah, because you nerdy guy, it's just how he.
Speaker 3You were like, don't put your hands in that teenager's shoulders, please, Yeah, which I also agree with.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was crazy.
If if nobody should touch a teen that would actually be very strange.
If yeah, a man, if somebody's dad and I know that he's got it, holds a different space as the biolog father sperm, knowner whatever.
And I don't know, but like if a dad in your class growing up put your hands on your shoulders like that, on her bare shoulders and held them there for that weird, It just is weird.
He made some strange choices.
Speaker 3Yeah, And then she was like he's flirting with me, and Mia was like, you're being a whore.
And I was like, no, she's right, you're a you're a slutty horror.
Speaker 1Stop being such a horror.
And then she calls him on the phone and she's like, I'm sorry, my friend was being a whore.
And I think that she just thought you were flirting because you put her hands on her shoulders, so she knew.
Speaker 3He's like, I literally didn't notice.
Well, her mom is in bed with him.
Speaker 1Oh so crazy.
Speaker 3He's a let he's a leg.
Speaker 1Okay, uh Leonni you said, if you are a woman in a film and you are admiring a Joni Mitchell album, your spouse is cheating on you.
Speaker 3Oh my gosh, you're right, h love.
Actually, oh no, no, Jony Mitchell is for the cocks, the cooks, and the letches, letches and cooks.
I that sounds like a British pub name the letchend cook, the letchen, the cock letchend cock, the cuck and heading down to letus cock didn't know what's gonna come out.
Let's just cook.
Speaker 1Sounds like an Irish seaside.
Speaker 3Come on, I'll meet you going down to the lecheres cock.
Speaker 1Come I When Nick was singing, Joni Mitchell was very unsettling.
Speaker 3I see.
He said, I'm wondering if maybe being a parent is really hard.
Speaker 1It seems so hard, it's so hard.
The The dialogue was really good in the I think they did a very good job.
When Joni is like, she comes back drunk, and they're at first like because they're kind of cool, they're kind of like chill parents who you know, Nick has high standards for them, but they seem pretty open about talking about stuff in a healthy way, and they want to let them go to like explore them, like explore and party a little bit.
And so they're not just like getting mad at her for being drunk.
They're like, Okay, it seems like you're drunk.
It seems like you drove home drunk.
Like I am mad at you, but I want to maintain your trust.
And then when she's like I hate you both, like I've done everything you wanted, so like stop yelling me, and also, how are you mad at me mom?
When you just cheated on mom?
It's just like, damn, what are you supposed to say back?
Yeah, and you're just you're trying to be an authority, an authority here because you know that's what your kid needs.
But also you're like, literally, what am I supposed to say?
You got me the teenagers?
You did get me the teenage years seemed very hard.
Yeah, turbulent, turbulent.
Speaker 3I really reason you with with the kid though, when she was like, I've done everything you wanted.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was like, oh yeah, dang, yes, it is very confusing.
Mmm.
Speaker 3I think I think, like just all the characters were really well rounded, so you really did see kind of where everybody was coming from.
Yep, it's true why they did the things they did.
Speaker 1It's true.
Speaker 3Are you currently gazing lovingly at a Joni Mitchell album?
Uh oh, get ready for some tough conversation.
We'll be right back, Leanni.
He said, someone hug this crying lesbian when a net bending is crying when Julianne Moore is the speech in front of the family the night before they take Jony to college.
Yeah, I was like, excuse me, children, hug your crying mother.
This woman needs a hug's crying.
It's a Huggianna.
Speaker 1You wrote PERV penance.
He's doing PERF penance.
Yeah, you gotta pay the PERF toll.
Speaker 3That's what happens.
What happens when you're a PERV.
Speaker 1You stared down that woman's whale tail, and you broke up a family and guess what they are?
The family they love each other.
So guess who's getting kicked out?
PERV You PERV, that's the perfer, mister PERV, have fun at fun at PERF camp, mister PERV, mister PERV.
Audios, mister PERV.
Leanna, you said being able to drive to college is such a privilege.
That is true.
What college did she go to?
Speaker 3Did they say where was she going?
I want to ask you about that.
It looked like maybe Ucla.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, that's where they met.
Speaker 3Huh.
They didn't like name it where she goes, but they did specify UCLA earlier and it seemed suburban enough to not be usc right.
Speaker 1Let me see where they shot, but it was a short.
Speaker 3Enough drive that my guess is Ucla.
Speaker 1They did shoot this in Highland Park and Eagle Wrong, that's right by me.
Wow, I want to know where they shot the college part?
Oh, Occidental, which is also by me.
Speaker 3Oh okay, but I think she's Yeah.
Did you see how insane the layout of that dorm room was?
Yes, At first I was like, Okay, she's in a single but no, that too.
That actually looked like an amazing room.
To be honest, her well for her because her bed is in the corner under both of the windows, but the roommates is across the room in darkness, right by the door.
Speaker 1That was a total art department, total art department thing.
They got there and then they were like, crap, we need to have her have a moment with the window.
Do you think it would be normal if we could put the roommate's bed here?
And enough people went yeah, it's fine.
Oh my god.
It was the same with enough of us were like what, Yeah, the suitcases on top of the car.
I was like, those are too small to Actually they would have shoved those in the car.
No person is attaching two small suitcases to the top of the car.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Also, if you live close enough that they can drive, your moms can just go pick up the rest and drive it there.
Yeah, get it.
It was anyway department.
Speaker 3Also, like when my parents moved me into college, they helped me, like set up my bed.
I I thought it, dropped the boxes and then hot back in the vehicle.
Speaker 1I liked that.
She was like, I have to if I want to be independent, I have to ask for it.
But which I learned about this year.
But but yeah, I'm like, you can go to dinner you can get lunch.
What the hell does she hasn't even gone and gotten like her key card or anything.
No, does she have any roommates?
Like, what is going on?
Does she go here?
I don't know?
It was weird.
Yeah, does she go here?
We find out that she just like went to any random college found a room.
Yeah.
Uh, Leona, your final note is that was a sweet film.
I liked it.
Speaker 3I liked it.
Speaker 2Yay.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, Well let's move on to badges and trages, where we award badges.
Speaker 1Badges for biodegradable yes, food in the compost, and trages for.
Speaker 3Tiny boys playing basketball.
Speaker 1Yes, that is very tragic.
My first bad boy for basketball dream.
My first badge is for cute.
I thought it was cute.
Speaker 3I have a badge for a huge headboard and lavender walls.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3I loved this house.
I did like the beautiful.
Speaker 1They had a really nice home.
I had a badge for good acting.
Good acting everybody, it's very well cast.
Oh my god.
Speaker 3My next badge is I think the acting is very good.
Speaker 1Yeah.
I was really like, I would love if they'd make a normal movie again.
I know they're doing too much.
Speaker 3Really again, is like I was like, Yeah, this is what films are.
They're just like would be.
Speaker 1I don't know when the last time I just saw a shot of somebody like having a conversation while they were brushing their teeth instead, it's all like Emma Stone getting is bald form the stone is bald, or like a baby, or like getting painted with something.
I don't know.
Speaker 3Did you see bog Am I hearing that you've seen.
Speaker 1I keep seeing her movies.
I support her in some ways that I just want to.
I just it's fine for there to just be a married couple brushing their teeth in the bathroom talking about their kids.
Speaker 3I'm sorry.
Speaker 1It was very refreshing.
Speaker 3Yep, yep, totally totally.
Speaker 1My next badge is for this is film's right in my neighborhood.
It really is.
Speaker 3My Oh my last badge, okay, is for the line I wish you were gay, you'd be much more sensitive.
Speaker 1That was so funny.
My oh my last badge as well is for om G, I'm so happy he saved that dog from getting pe on.
Yeah, it's on its head.
What it must be hard that that was a wayward teen, Oh my word, a wayward deranged teen.
Speaker 3Deranged trages trages.
Speaker 1Uh uh first trages.
You know, I don't think anyone in this is actually gay.
Speaker 3I wondered a netbending might be it's but I don't know.
Speaker 1Uh, she was married to man.
I don't know.
I can't I can't decide people's sexualities.
And also it was like a well directed it didn't feel like it wasn't about like, yeah, it wasn't like about gaining political rights for for like gay people, and then it's like only straight people working on it and whatever.
So I didn't I don't think it was extremely problematic, but I just felt that should probably be noted because I don't know if that was whatever at the time.
But I still think it was very good.
Speaker 3You know, I have a trage for white dreadlocks.
Somebody who works in the garden at the restaurant has white dreadlocks, is white with dreadlocks.
And I said, no, that's the way they were predicting our time without quite getting it right.
Speaker 1Mmm.
Speaker 3I'm like, but I guess people really did people have there's a lot of white people in London with dreadlocks.
Speaker 1Really, Yeah, that's so embarrassing.
It's really troubling.
Wow, imagine being English and having dreadlocks, Like, what, wow, that's that's that's so tough.
Head of hairstyles.
It is of white hairstyles.
Speaker 3Yeah, a trag for it.
This is too awkward.
I want to die so many of the interactions intentionally.
Speaker 1Yeah, we're so awkward.
Yes, yeah, and I was.
I was shriveling into a little shrimp ball on the couch.
This isn't really a trag so much as a question.
And that last scene when he was talking to them, when he was talking to when he came to the door, was his voice really really scratchy?
Oh, because you know he always kind of talks like this, but it was almost comically he was like, God, I ever see you again?
Oh?
Speaker 3I wonder if he was a star is born?
Speaker 1Whoa.
If anybody watches this, watch out for it.
Speaker 3In that scene, I couldn't tell what's going on with Maybe it was getting night or something, the vocal fry, the rasp, maybe he was getting emotional increasing Yeah, passive man experiences emotion for the first time.
Hmmm.
My oh last trage, Well, no, I'll add a trage for it being set in LA that's fair.
Speaker 1I don't want to watch that.
I'm sorry, it's fair.
My last trage is for there are too many movies and things with this name.
Okay, when you look up, the kids are all righty oh yeah.
There was another thing that was like a TV show.
There was a TV show which I actually had seen that TV show and it is good, but uh, there's just a lot.
And then there's also, oh, a documentary with the name I think, or something like that.
There's too many options, you know.
Speaker 3What I was thinking would be funny.
What if they did a documentary about boys of these days who've been red pilled and they called it The Kids are alt Right?
That's for Clay Clay mister p Yeah, Clay is the kids are all The kids are all right?
He has his own movie going made me laugh.
My last trage is a trage for a bit long.
It was a bit long.
I thought it could have wrapped up, but I think that's because I thought it was going to be exactly ninety minutes, and then when it passed that, I was looking at my watch like, really, what the that doesn't say still stuff?
Not that they could have ended it's funny, but I think it could have been tightened up.
Speaker 1I said that the movie left me wanting more who figure, go figure, I guess I just support the gay community.
I don't know.
Speaker 3Famously, I don't.
Speaker 1Oh well yeah.
Speaker 3Also, I had a note in here that bisexuals will ruin your life, and this film further approved.
Speaker 1She did when she when she went bisexual, she ruined everything.
Everyone got really mad at her.
She really yeah mm hmm, well yeah.
Shall we move on to our next segment, Lena, which is, of course, how to pretend you've seen this film.
This is for You're eating in a nice farmed table restaurant.
You're just dreaming of the days when Obama was president, just kind of going back in time.
You're composting, and h Clay comes up to you.
Oh, I'm so sorry, and he goes, oh god, hey, can you film me?
Do this real quick?
Can you film me?
And you say no, I'm not going to film me.
He goes, oh oh my god, wait wait wait wait wait, Holy moly, this just reminded me.
I just had deja vu.
I was remembering this really funny movie where this guy he almost peas on this dog's head.
But then these for some reason, this guy who has a crush on these lesbians he like, messes it up because he's like a total total curve.
He like, I don't know, but they're almost as awesome.
There's a couple really awesome stunts in the movie, and I'm gonna tell you all about it.
Speaker 3And in order to kneecap Clay, we're gonna give you a few sentences you can say to pretend you've seen the film The Kids are all Right.
Yes, Clay, I've seen The kids are all right.
Now, please leave me be to enjoy my delicious wine and food and go put on some sunscreen SPF fifty or higher.
Speaker 1Clay, Yeah, oh my gosh, Yes, Clay, I have seen the film The Kids Are all Right.
You and McGregor was originally cast to play Hall.
Speaker 3Oh, I would have liked that.
Speaker 1Would have been good.
That would have been catching him with a Scottish accent playing that role.
That would have been I would have really bought into this character in another way in this Okay, it would have been really interesting.
This is insane.
Mark Ruffalo filmed his role in only six days.
What what, I guess he's mostly around the same I guess he's in like three locations.
Oh my god, that feels really weird.
What the wow?
Okay, random Wow, that's disturbing to me.
Oh the whole thing was filmed in twenty three days.
Damn.
Oh well, okay, that makes more sense.
Huh work wow, because they're trying to finish it in time for Sundance.
You go, Mama's I love that girl vibes.
Get her done, Yes, girl vibes.
Yes, Clay, I've seen the kids are all right.
And when it comes to my thoughts on a film, I'll say to you it's something that I do find crass, but it does apply, which is what Nick said to Mark Ruffalo in this film.
I need your observations like I need a dick in my ass.
I can't.
Speaker 3I can't commit to that sentence.
Speaker 1I need to go.
Speaker 3Can you see how high my shoulders are.
Speaker 1Haunched?
Haunches?
Speaker 3Yours are like your legs.
Speaker 1You are your gay?
Speaker 3Wait?
Speaker 1What is it that your You're what?
Speaker 3I'm hunched?
Speaker 1Your whatevers go up?
Speaker 3What is it called my traps?
Speaker 2No?
Speaker 3Hackles, hackles, your haunches are I'm the dog about to be pissed on.
My hackles are raised.
Speaker 1Your hackles are raised.
Your haunches are raised well because I've raised my hand.
No, uh, yes, yes, Clay I have seen the film.
The kids are all right.
Okay, I need to get on board with Mark Ruffalo because everything I learned about him is so lovely.
I just need to get over it.
This is this is sad but beautiful.
Mark Ruffalo based his performance on his charismatic brother, who died not long before filming started.
In his grief and disillusionment with his career, Ruffalo honestly believes that this would be his last acting performance in favor of transitioning to directing.
Seeing an audience react to the film at Sundance changed his mind about quitting acting.
Oh dang, so this was a moving moment of his career.
Wow, dang, that is beautiful.
Speaker 3Sorry I said how much I hated the character.
Speaker 1I know, sorry about that.
Yes, Clay, I've seen The kids are all right.
Speaker 3And Clay's friend, who I've met before but haven't really liked or been nice too, is in and I'm trying to like be polite, but the friend is asking, why are you giving me that look?
And I have to say, as Louise said, that's no look, that's just my face.
That's just what I look like.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's a good line for you.
Yeah, can I tell you.
Speaker 3I had to say that on a commercial shoot once.
No, I'm that like the one of the one and a half commercials that I shot in La.
On one of them, they were like, oh, Leanna, is the sun in your eyes?
And I had to go, no, that's just my face.
Speaker 1Sorry, no it's not.
Actually, this is me.
Speaker 3That's what I look like.
Speaker 1Oh my gosh.
Interesting.
Jodie Foster, who wasn't out at the time, turned down the role of Nick.
I didn't know if she wasn't out.
Wow.
She was so a lesbian for her.
Speaker 3Whole career much sense, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1We watched a lot of her movies.
She was so a lesbian.
Speaker 3She was like, that really tracks that.
This feels like it really could have been a Jodie Foster role.
Wow, but a Nett Benning's laid at it.
Speaker 1She was really good.
Yeah, this really is this deserved the Oscars.
This is the kind of thing that the Oscars should be for.
Yeah.
Speaker 3Did it get any nominations?
Speaker 1Yes, And in fact I can tell you that now, yes, Clay, I have seen the film.
The kids are all right.
The cast includes one Oscar winner, Julianne Moore, and two Oscar nominees Annette Benning and Mark Ruffalo, and it's the only film to be nominated for Best Picture of the Academy Awards, but not at the Critics Choice Movie Awards.
Speaker 3Okay, all right, did they get any acting nominations.
Speaker 1Anette Betting and Mark Ruffalo?
Oh what do you mean at the Critics Choice Award?
Speaker 3No, like for this movie.
Speaker 1I know that they are, but I was I didn't understand.
I thought that that was saying they got it for the movie.
Oh but no, it wasn't.
And Met Betting and Julian Moore were nominated for Best Oh no, these are just best.
Speaker 3Oh no, these weren't for the Best Annual Woman.
Speaker 1It doesn't say here that they got an the acting nominations.
Speaker 3For this which is crazy, which is great, that's annoying.
Speaker 1But also I might just be not seeing it on here and there's no way to know.
There's no way, no doubt, it's not knowable.
Speaker 3Well, Sienna, Yes, let's drive forty five minutes across town, yes, to a college campus and inform the kids we think we should they should watch this movie or if they should do something else with their time.
In our segment, should you watch this or.
Speaker 1I would say that you could totally watch this movie.
Yeah, I like m M.
And if you don't want to watch this whole movie, then you could watch Chris Fleming's bit about Emma Stone being in your ghost films.
Yeah, I loved that.
What about you?
What do you think?
Speaker 3I think absolutely?
You can watch The Kids Are all Right and then the follow up haunting documentary about young boys on the internet these days, The kids are all Right?
Speaker 1Yeah, I'm sorry.
It really makes me look So you're recommending people can watch right, yes, or you can recommend people are watching a documentary.
Speaker 3That learn about how the kids these days are all right, but also watch the movie The Kids Are all Right?
Speaker 1Yes.
What would you rate the film?
Oh, my gosh, I think I would give this movie four point seven cargo pants out of five.
I thought it was great, but I agree it took place in La Yeah, at the end of the day, and they weren't nice enough to Luis for all he was doing.
Oh my god, that was crazy.
Yeah, I thought it was great.
I really liked it.
What about you?
Speaker 3I would give The Kids Are all Right four strong pale calves out of five to go in the cargo pants, to go right?
In those cargo pants.
I enjoyed it a lot.
Yes, it's set in LA and there are some twenty ten lines in there that are like ooh, of just referring to non white cultures in a.
Speaker 1Way that's like yeah, oh.
Speaker 3Yeah, there's a lacking, lack of deliverance.
Speaker 1He was a Mexican accent in a way.
He's not respectful.
Yeah, mm hmm.
Speaker 3There's some misses for sure, you know, figuring it out.
And this was the first one of the tens.
Speaker 1This was ten.
Yeah, they were just starting out.
They didn't know.
Speaker 3Okay, thank you everybody so much for listening.
This has been Tossed Popcorn's review of The Kids Are All Right.
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Oh?
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She made a delicious one.
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