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I couldn't help wonder ask me anything.

You ask many questions.

So first we have from Amelia who emailed us hi ub team.

So I'm curious, what are some beauty procedures or treatments you'd never try.

I feel like I get so caught up in the hype and what I see on social media without doing proper research.

Would love to hear your thoughts on what's worth avoiding.

It's so funny, isn't it?

Because I read this question from Amelia and I had a bit of a giggle because I'm such a.

Rat, elaborate, like I'm a labrat.

I'm so happy to always take one for the team and try pretty much anything and report back.

I just feel like that is part of my duty being Yeah, the host here.

I used to be like that.

Oh, she's like, I don't take my job very seriously, and I'm not being a labrat anymore.

Yeah, well I used to.

But then if you've got skin issues, Yeah, so back in the day, I would do anything whatever.

Now I'm a little bit more selective, only because again I just know how much pain it's going to cause if my perioral dermatitis flairs up, which I am a bit more cautious.

We touched on in Amy's the Formula episode.

We can leave that in the show notes if you fancy listening, because I don't know where your skin just.

Ye had a bit of a flare up and then it just Now it's just something that will flare up at different times, if you're stressed, if you're like, haven't been sleeping, just the usual life stuff.

But is there anything that you wouldn't try.

I definitely wouldn't try the plasma treatment, the face treatment where they take your blood, like the very facial I would do that.

Yeah, I absolute wouldn't because I hate blood and I hate it.

Oh okay, so the idea of a needle with my own blood then go like yuck.

I can't even we've done a couple of episodes, and I remember I did a deep dive onto that treatment once and I actually when I was interviewing, I can't even remember who I was interviewing because I couldn't pay attention.

Did you pass out?

I actually took my headphones off at one point and was only half listening.

That's how bad it was.

And I was so dizzy even having the conversation about the treatment.

Wow.

Okay, so that's a definite no.

Yeah.

But apart from that, there wasn't really that much that.

I mean, I wouldn't really just do anything invasive for the sake of it.

For if I was going to do something invasive, it's something that I have thought about for a long time.

I'd personally want to do.

But just your everyday treatments, it's more so that i'd be selective about where I went.

Yes, that was one of my things.

So I guess, and I don't want this to come across a certain way everyone to themselves.

But when my friends ask me about where should I go and get layser, where should I get skin treatments?

I generally say, don't book a pack of five or go somewhere where you're gonna get like disponded by thing because you never know what your skin's going to be like on that day.

Like, I just always think it's much better to go with the approach of having the consultation.

Like just because you had a laser treatment three weeks ago doesn't mean then your skin's gonna want it this time.

So that's just something that I personally wouldn't.

Do unless it was like LED or something really.

Yes, absolutely LED, like book that literally I love how you can book as well those express like it's like fifty bucks and you can go under it for twenty minutes or like a pack of ten for provents and things like that.

But for things like Fraxal Clear and Brilliant and skin needling, there's a lot of places that do.

And not to say that all of those places are bad, but there are a few that I think you kind of it's more just an approach to getting treatments that I wouldn't do.

The other thing I wouldn't do now is microdemobration.

Have you done it?

Though?

I have?

So that's where because I was like, there's things that I wouldn't do again.

Microdermibration is definitely where.

Only because I think there's better, more modern treatments out there now for resurfacing.

It's very old.

It is old school, but other than that, that's pretty much.

You've got pdo threads on yours, which I also agree with.

I've done it, but I wouldn't do it again because I don't think And the funny thing is is that I'm on the record of saying that, oh my goodness, the results are incredible.

I loved it so much, But I'm also on the record saying that it was one of the most painful treatments I've ever had done, and I don't think that the results last long enough to justify the pain.

Pdo threads.

I mean, Kelly's had them done, but essentially it's like dissolvable stitch, stitch that kind of helps to like lift the infrastructure of the skin.

And it works like I've got before and after that.

I who but a year really for that much pain?

It was agony.

Yeah, it looks hectic.

Maybe maybe one day never say never.

Never seen it, but I agree there's better and a lot of people won't do them anymore because they're so expensive, they're so time consuming.

I probably would just go for one of those this in like ten years time, I'm probably having the Christian Andy plane face lea over like, pdo threads.

Yeah, once a year for the next ten years.

I don't think you need oh oh instead of yeah, yeah, that makes sense.

I'm like, I don't think you need a facelift every year.

Amy, That's not how it works.

You're right.

I like that you knew what I had written down and I'd forgotten about it.

Yeah, pdo threads.

I'm just like, don't feel like it.

And I've done Reduran and I've got actually two more Reduran treatments coming up.

So that's that left.

Like the salmon sperm under the eyes good for duck.

Seven DNA guys, that's we're calling it a dura' not juking off salmon.

No, we've moved on from the like the weirdness term of salmon sperm.

But I've got two more of that to go, and that seems to be fine but filler.

In general.

I wouldn't do it because I don't need it number one, but also I'm a bit nervous about it.

My grading stuff that's come out lately.

I actually I know what you mean.

I'd be very curious.

I've had little bits here and there over the I'd be very interested to see my face under one of those things, to see if it's not dissolved and it's just moved everywhere.

Some people say that it stays in.

It could stay in the lip for like seven years.

So I wouldn't do that.

But things I would do on the flip side, and that I do do injectibles, you know, anti wrinkle injectibles, needling.

I don't do needling that much, but I would do it and I have done.

I love like a frax or a clear and brilliant session.

I did that in the lead up to my wedding.

It's auchy, but that is really great if you're like a freckly sun damaged person like me.

Laser Genesis is a great like entry level treatment, really good for pretty much everything.

Oh and I love a good peal, like if I'm having a skin treatment.

I love a pel and LED of course.

We love LED.

I also actually me, I'm a librod.

I'll do anything.

I wouldn't do one of those hectic pills or lasers that require a fair bit of downtime.

I might do it if I really wanted it.

But it would be not just me being elabright, Like, I'd have to really lock that in and make sure probably next winter or something when I don't want to go out for a while after, just because it also looks very painful.

It's not that I care what I look like when I go out.

I've gone out looking like Freddy Krueger, but postneedling, I've looked so ridiculous.

And got Yeah, sometimes you're in your in the mindset for like a bit of no pain, no gain, and then other times I have gone to have a skin treatment, I've gone, oh, I've actually got some shit going on, and I just don't I feel emotionally ready for something painful.

But what I would say to Amelia in general is just take the extra time to do your research, especially if you're spending your own money.

You know it's your face, especially, just like, do a bit of research and make sure it's the right kind of treatment for you, and then go forth do whatever.

And you don't need that many things true, don't just go try everything.

Find one person that you trust that you have a good connection with as much as you can sort of have a connection with someone that does your facials and don't just start chopping and changing and doing everything like you could damage your skin barrier.

Yeah, at the very least, and at the worst, you could actually cause some harm by trying a lot of different things.

So I know that it can be tempting and when you see different ads for things or just see people raving about things, but nine times out of ten, you don't need it.

Agreed, All right, Next up, we've got another juicy question.

I love this question, right, such a good question.

Ali sent us a DM on Insta saying a question for the pod if you could choose one of those five umbrella companies and shop only the brands owned by them, which one would it be?

And why I'm going first?

Wait, you've got two.

That's cheating.

Yeah you can't, but we.

Can go first.

But I want to not everyone listening.

Not everyone listening knows what well, even I sort of had to google it to remind to myself.

So I will quickly just want abrute the five umbrella companies.

Not all beauty brands fit unto these, but I would say ninety percent yes of them, ten to two.

So number one, we've got the s day Lader companies.

So brands like these aren't all of them, but just a lot of the main ones s Day Loader, Mac Clinique, Bobby Brown, lamer Avida, I'm Alone, Tom for two Face, Doctor Jart and the Ordinary.

Then we have the Laurel Group, which are brands like Laurel, Maybolene and yex Gannia, lung com keels ysl Georgio, Armani, Urban Decay, Skin sutical Sarah v Laroche, Pose Vishi and Red Can.

We have P and G, Procter and gamble Ol, Panteen, Head and Shoulders, Herbal Essences, Ski two is it?

He pronounces K two?

Oh?

Sorry, I know every time I laugh at you pronouncing badly.

Sorry, I'm such a beauty snob.

Old Spice and Gillette Galette.

Oh I don't know about that, Okay, Uni Leer, the man can the best a man can.

Get, Unilever, dove Tresume, Sun Silk, Vacline, Simple Ponds Our Glass.

Then we have Cody, Cover, Girl, Rimmel, Max Factor, Bourgeois, Kylie Cosmetics, and then like a lot of the fragrances are under them.

So now you can go first.

Yeah, it's so it's wild.

How Yeah, basically, and I feel like in the next However many years like this will slowly it's like there's five big groups and then it's just gonna Shesado is actually another like one that's quite relatively big as well as I feel like Elf with Road and all of that.

But yeah, it's crazy to think just how many brands are all owned by the same company.

So I am cheating, as Kelly said, But whatever skin care and hair care lrel reason being that, like I've got in that mix for Larel, I've got skin suiticles.

So if I want to do my ce for rule I serum, which I'm always buying on sale by the way, never full price, or I want to do my serav lauroch Pose SPF, that's skincare ticked off.

And then hair care.

Kerastars is one of the brands that you didn't mention, like I'm gonna do Kerastars who are they under lorel Oh sorry okay, Laurel and Garnia as well, so like I can do like I love a good Garnia as I know you do as well hair care product.

But Kerastas is like one of my just favorite haircare brands if money was no object, So I do that.

And then but makeup like I like maybe Lene, and I like my Nicks and ix Nicks lip products.

But when I was thinking about the products that I use the most, they're probably from brands like Mac like my Face and Body foundation blushes, Bobby Brown like my correct stick.

I feel like I could really be quite happy to use just Bobby Brown, Mac and Clinique makeup.

Okay, that's all well and good, but I do feel like you cheated because the rule was one.

So I would choose the Laurel group because yes, I love Bobby Brown, I love OLEA, love lots of other brands that are under the other umbrellas.

But I'm a good girl and I'm just choosing Laurel because I think that they've got the most diverse and also the most amount of brands to play with.

And probably they'll have more and more brands.

Exactly because they've got so much money they just keep buying them.

Plus they are frequently recognized for ethical business practices.

I loved see there's gotta be one rule breaker on the show.

Usually you're probably the.

Rule yeah, and then now I can be them, I'm the one like no, it's also looking up the ethical practices of all of them, because I thought that does come into it, yeah, in terms of who you can only shop with for the rest of your life.

Anyway, that's a great question.

I thought it was just so juicy.

Yeah, I loved it.

All right, Amy Beauty Bite.

My beauty bite is actually for anyone out there who is struggling with like seasonal skin changes, like this time of year, like hay fever.

We've got like shit blowing around in the wind.

That's like getting in my eyes and getting in my nose and flaring up my you know, things that I always need to talk about, which is my perioral dermatitis.

So I want to do two little hacks for our seasonally affected ubi's.

I'm also yeah, yeah, so thank you.

Tell me.

Number one for running eyes.

I'm not saying anything ultra new here, but if you're not using tubula mascara, switch to a tubula for this time of year when your eyes are running.

I just love the m CO, the MC beauty, the extend slash, but that will not come off when your eyes are running when you've got tears, you know, leaking down the side of your face.

So that's number one, and then number two for my perioral dermatitis.

Friends, this is a little hack that lets you still use all your other fun skin care products without kind of aggravating and looking after this area.

So what I do when I'm applying my skin care, for example, when I have a flare up, like my vitamin C serum, that's no good.

Even my sunscreen gets a bit spicy, just like because it's only this area for anyone listening, it's that like nasy triangle, yeah, Bermuda triangle, your front of your nose just smile lines around me.

It's the corners of my mouth so crusty.

And it's got that so bad at the moment too, like just around his mouth just so red.

Yeah.

And so what I like to do is before I put any serums on, I get my larosch Poseesica plus B five or like I use an even soothing recovery cream moisturizer.

Put down a layer of your moisturizer over any of those affected areas.

So I just literally go over my mouth, then mirror, and then I go and apply my serums to the rest of my face.

And that it gives a buffer there.

So sometimes just having that buffer is enough.

And because if I don't do it sometimes still migrates or you're so trying to be so careful with the application, but it can still migrate and the tiny thing can set it off.

So that's just like a little, a little tip so we can keep using our serums and asking care even when we're flaring.

I love that.

That was great.

I loved that because mine is.

This morning, I was doing my makeup and I didn't do anything differently.

I did my skincare the way that I often do.

I then did my makeup the way that I often do.

I didn't use any new products or techniques, and I was looking at my makeup and I was like, whoa, you have already separated in so many different areas, Like it was just not playing nice on my face, and I didn't have any time to fix it.

So I just was like, oh, whatever, it is, what it is.

It's just going to look a little bit shit today.

And three people have already complimented my makeup.

And so this is just a reminder that because we often get questions or dms about oh, my makeup separating and all this is happening on my skin, and it's just a reminder that no one is ever looking at your skin in the detail that you are.

That's no one looking at you that closely to notice that your makeup has separated, or that your skin's a little bit crusty in an area exactly a giant pimple that's bright red.

Probably people notice that, but that's okay, Yeah, it's just a big pimple.

I love that.

And also because like for example, when you're seeing people day to day, you're not unless you know, you're really close.

Or you're weird and you're paying so much attention, you're no.

One's talking to you stood right up to your face, and it's like, I look at you from here ground, so I don't have my glasses on.

I'm looking at you, and I see overall glow.

I see the blush, I see how the light is reflecting off the highlight and the lips.

I don't see pause or exactly any crust or any If.

You looked closely and you were trying to look for it, of course you would see that I'm a bit crusty, and it's all separated in between my eyebrows and on my chin and next to my nose, where I've also had some acne breakouts I've also got my periods, so that could be part of the reason.

Why, Oh, you're really going through it this morning.

Yeah, it's just because we get so caught up in details and oh, little hairs on our chins and that sort of thing.

No one is looking, no one is paying that much attention to our face the way that we are, So it's just a little reminded just to be nice to yourself when you're worrying about things.

Thanks.

Cal If you have a question, like I said, we'll pop everything in the show notes and we'll be back in your eyes and ears next week.

Bye.