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I'm Chelsea Hoy, the entertainment writer here at Mamma Mia and a massive lover of all things.

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So today we're going to be talking about all things denim.

So the trends we're seeing, the styles we feel like will kind of never go out of style, and really how to revamp your denim wardrobe without having to buy a new genes.

Licinda and I are also both bringing in some trends that we've been seeing and showing how you can really style that for every season totally.

And I guess the thing with denim, it's evergreen, like whatever suits your body and whatever you love, like, Denim's not going anywhere.

No Denim was actually founded in eighteen seventy two.

It's been around for so long by Levi Strauss himself, and it all started as overall.

So did you know that it started as overalls before it became Gene.

Can I just say I love all your fun facts.

Every time we do this, I always learned something I didn't know, But yeah.

It started as work where it was very much workman's practical overalls, which then sort of became glamorized in Hollywood with James Dean and almost that West Country Western cowboy era as well.

Also another big brand, Levi's, was a big one to begin with.

And Oshkosh, for gosh, you know that brand.

They started as men's wear overalls, had some random fabric leftover, thought they'd make a kid's line and bull Matt went off and then it became a kid's brand.

So yeah, Denim's been around forever.

And trends do cycle, as we know, they're cyclical to go round and round, but there are prominent trends that stick around per season.

So I guess with spring summer, I should say twenty five.

So what we're heading into now, shells, what would you say is some of the biggest trends that we're seeing in Denham.

So one thing which I feel like this has kind of been around a few seasons, but jaworts, and I don't think they're going anywhere, so I do feel like it is on trend.

I wouldn't necessarily say it's a trend now just because we've been seeing it kind of stick around for the last few seasons.

I don't predict that we're going to see them kind of be out of style for a period of time.

Across fashion weeks.

For the last few years, we've been seeing jats, whether it's with like a really sleek kind.

Of sneaker or like a heel.

I really feel like they can be dressed up or down.

Which I really love jawts and just bermuda pants or shorts in general, don't you think.

And then it's now turned into denim jawts.

Bear Park recently came out with a bear Park's, the Australian brand.

They just recently came out with a denim range, including Denham jawts, which are really nice.

It's either you love them or hate them.

Yeah, I think it's a shape that's a little bit polarizing to be honest, would you ever?

So?

I love them.

I have so many joughts.

Also, I feel like they're a really easy trend to hop on because For instance, some of my favorite jawts were hand me downs from my dad.

So he had these pants that he no longer wore that were just like kind of three quarter length, like baggy denim pants, and they look great, I think, because that baggy fit is really what's in.

So I kind of I love that.

That's good, Yeah, I do.

I don't think I'm going to do denim jawts.

I love a Bermuda short.

I can't get physically around a denim jort yet because I can't figure out how i'd style it.

But maybe as I see more of it, I'll get inspiration to then give it a go.

I guess yeah.

I do also feel like a Bermuda short feels a little bit I don't want to say dress yet, but a little bit more elevated, which I think is a little bit easier to style.

As a question early, I.

Think some other micro trends within denim that we're seeing is animal print.

I we've spoken on the pod about zebra print being sort of taking over the cheetah print, and I did give zebra arrol jeens ago.

I do love them, but I find them I never gravitate towards them in my wardrobe, right, So I do see animal print as a micro trend within denim.

I kind of love.

I mean, I'm wearing like capprint.

Animal print in general is a trend.

And we did see cowprint at New York Fashion Week.

Brandon Maxwell had something, so we did see we spoke to us about fashion week.

We saw New York.

Had cow print, So I love animal prints around.

I think a micro trend within denim.

We'll see, Yeah, what else are you seeing in trends with Denham at the moment.

We've spoken about this previously, but distressed denim kind of really full circle moment, coming back back around, very like twenty ten's New York Fashion Week.

Also, we saw a lot of distressed and and ripped jeans exposed scenes that sort of thing, which I love.

I feel like I've got a whole wardrobe waiting to pull back out.

I love that.

Yeah, I love but you've got them.

I love it.

I love that you haven't thrown them out and given them to Vinnie's you.

I love that you've kept your things.

I think, deep down I knew that one day they would sort of have a research and I mean, like all trends, they kind of come and go.

Yeah, yeah, because I do encourage people unless you really know you're not going to wear it, hold on to things because we are seeing I think now with social media how fast these.

Trends are moving.

I'm actually doing a trend forecast for an Australian Deni brand at the moment, so this isn't really it's such a good.

Time right now.

It's long range forecasting.

So looking at next to you, what are these trends going to be?

It's an educated guess on what these trends will be.

You're just looking historically at those cycles and what you can predict.

So things like the distressed people say, is skinny back in his skin?

Oh no, like all the millennials are screaming inside is skinny back in?

None of them isn't necessarily going anywhere.

It's just what's going to be.

I guess pushed more through wholesalers and designers, like skinny jeans, spray on jeans are around.

But yes, skinny's definitely a big trend as well.

I can't say I'm happy about that one.

I love it.

I feel like anyone who's like a cool fashion girl could wear any shape of jean it's just how they're styling it.

I agree with that.

Yeah, I think personally also, like I talk about this way too much on this podcast, but I.

Having a sensitive stomach, skinny jeans on my.

Worst nightmare are supposed to be that tight.

So when we had like obviously loose fitting pant white leg jeans coming back in, that's that's like my dream.

Yeah, well, gin, I love skinny jean.

I know what you mean.

They can be tight.

And the jeans I was wearing last time on this part, I had the top button.

I'm done, so they are tight, but I do love I just think how they're styled now.

So I think millennials back in the day would wear skinny spray on jeans with an ankle boot and then a tight top and there was just no proportion or silhouette in that outfit.

So I think if you're doing a skinny jean, I don't mind.

It with like a sumber.

I think whatever shoe you're wearing changes the whole shape and silhouette of the outfit.

But just having a bit more oversized on top an Oxford shirt or the oversized jacket something like that to balance out the skinniness.

Of the gene.

So if you are a learnal.

Listening and you think, oh, I don't want to touch skinny, just try playing with the different balances of proportions.

Just back to sort of that what I was looking within the forecast.

This is a really random one.

I think you can't how many times can you recreate denim?

Right?

I think a lot of people think it is really just going back through that cycle.

But one thing that is relatively new that I'm somewhat seeing.

I don't want to sort of mark this down as a trend yet, but watch this space and tell me if you've seen this cells.

It's the double waist.

Oh so we saw it with Jack and Mouss.

We saw it with Loeva.

It's basically where the buckle bit of the denim.

There's two of them, so it's a double waist.

It's interesting.

I've seen it a lot also as a styling technique.

So even on home soil, we saw Nagnata just styled recently in a photo shoot.

I think at photographs really well, that double waste.

Are we going to start seeing it at cotton on?

I don't know yet.

It's more a watch this space.

It's interesting and it's an interesting rework of denim.

If there's a brand that's trying to do something different.

It's interesting.

I mean I haven't thought about it like very much, but I think visually I love it.

So I've seen it one hundred percently on runways and certain brands doing it.

I love the way it looks visually.

I just don't know that I personally would wear that or pull it off, or I don't.

Know necessarily maybe how I would style it.

Maybe I agree problem and it's a little sort of micro trend esque or a bit too fashion fashion, you know what I mean.

Yeah, I sometimes do feel like like you were saying, jeans are so universal.

I have so many pairs of genes, like different shapes, styles, washes that have just lived in my wardrobe for so long that I can pull out at different times.

I don't know that that.

Style is one that I would, in like two years time, pull out and be like this is a super wearable.

How many genes do you have from one of what the average pair of des people are.

I really have to think about that.

Twenty to thirty.

Wow, you're a real geen lover, i'd so tim.

Okay, Yeah, I do live in jeans though no one who knows me you're the perfect person for.

Yeah, I love denims, but I do love like all kinds of washes.

I know, dark washes kind of having a bit of a comeback, like a very clean darkwash, and like that denim suit where like a boxier top nice.

But I still do love like a lightwash, washy washes.

But do you go some other trends I've been seeing, Like we spoke about the loose, low rise baggagines, which you're a huge fan of, but also the loose set of cargo style pants with lots of pockets, so like cargo pants but in denim.

We saw heats that was cleaner strata just off the top of my head.

With New York Fashion Week, yep, interesting style, fun, very gen z.

I think, yes, I agree with that.

I do also love a cargo pant, I think because it kind of similar vein of what you were saying, like low rise, loose, kind of like wider leg, which I.

Think is very in now.

And I do think while you know you're not going to use any of the pockets, I do love a pant that kind of has you know, I have the option, you know, I love that.

That's cool.

And then a couple of other trends.

I saw cuffing the jeans.

So Kate did this New York Fashion Week.

We've seen it a little bit as well in Copenhagen.

This sounds so simple and it's not.

Again, it's not reinventing the wheel, but cuffing jeans and actually purchasing a pair of say Kate denim that that has that cuff look was really interesting.

I guess that's something you can just do with any pair of jeans, or buy a pair that's cuffed already.

Yeah.

I think it's kind of nice because I mean, if you want to save costs on tailoring, you could really just like and just a cuff them off.

And it adds a bit of two tone and differentiation within the denim.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that.

And then big belts as well.

I know that's not quite denim, but yeah, seeing big belts and belting with denim, I feel like belts sort of lost its way, sort of file no one wore belt.

Yeah, and they're definitely everywhere now.

I do think it is kind of the millennial in US where we were so traumatized by those like massive belts.

Yeah, wearing dresses with these like horrific.

Body belts, and we kind of moved away from it, but I do love that it's having a resurgence, and I do think it's a great way to kind of revamp your wardrobe and your denim and like a nice way to accessorize if you are kind of bored of what you have.

A belt is a really nice way to kind of feel fresh again.

What are some of your tips for if you don't necessarily want to go out and buy a new pair of jeans, how can you rework some of the genes that you have in your wardrobe.

I feel like layering and really playing with texture is a really great way to kind of feel like create a new look with your denim.

So something I really love to do is putting jeans under some.

Sort of a dress.

So it works really well for like a tunic style one or even like a slip dress.

I think that's immediately looks.

Partakean so chic, or even like a denim waistcoat or vest, or like a denim dress.

I feel like putting that on top of like a shirt or oven a long sleeve or some sort of like a really thin knit.

I think is a really great way to create a new look.

Yeah, I'm very curious about your take on this because I love it, but I do know it's kind of polarizing.

So charms on your jeans, I'm a massive fan just because I'm sort of like a charm girly in general.

So like on my phone, on my bags.

Where do you put them on your denim?

So I've seen people and this is sometimes I've been doing, is like a chain kind of on the belt, loop down and then having charms on that.

And what you can do is like you can kind of even repurpose like charm necklaces or bracelets you have kind of clip into your jeans, which I think is really cute.

Something else I've been seeing people do, which I haven't tried yet, is if you're wearing a kind of a straight leg pant, same thing charm necklace, charm bracelet, wrap it around your ankle and it kind of creates this really fun shape in your jeans as well and makes them feel.

A little bit an interesting getting great.

Okay, I wasn't.

Sure I've done it yet.

I like the idea of it, Yeah, would I do it?

I don't know, I guess color, it makes it interesting, It does feel quite gen z it does me.

Yeah, but I'm a fan of it.

I do know some people also like it.

Really is that maximalis style.

That we've talked about.

But I do think it's a fun way to add a bit of personality to your outfit.

I love that.

I wouldn't Okay, I wouldn't do it, but I'd appreciate seeing it on someone.

Okay, okay, are there any tips that you have?

I guess piggybacking the back of that with accessories, the bad downer belt, I've done that a few times.

Actually.

Have you dipped your toe in that trend?

Yeah?

I love that trends so much, and I love how burst tilt.

Is and it can really change the denim.

I quite like that.

This one's if you've got heaps of genim, like you do Chel's thirty genes, But if you've got a lot and there's some that you might not wear as much anymore.

I particularly have this because I've had with three kids, I've gone through up and down in sizes, so there's like size.

Eight to fourteen in my wardrobe.

So some of those that I'm not going to wear or they're just not the right size, I'd go get them tailored.

So rather than just taking them to the op shop, go get them tailored, not just to resize, but making it a midi skirt.

So I'd cut the jeans.

You know, the long midi skirt denim.

Yeah, you're sort of a trend a couple of years ago, and went and got that tailored, not just to get sitched in the waist, but to make a midi skirt.

So rather than buying into that trend, take a pair of existing jeans and turn it into a midi skirt.

I've also done it.

I said I wasn't into jawts.

I've tried to dabble with an old pair of cotton on jeans, So I wouldn't do this with an expensive pair of jeans.

But if you have got some that you sort of over.

It was a barrel pair of jeans.

I know they're in now, but for some reason, I don't like barrel jeans.

You're a fan, aren't you love Yeah.

I just feel like it adds that little bit of drama.

Yeah, the jean, but I know it's not for everyone.

Yes, I knew I wasn't going to wear them, so I just turned them into jawts, still warm them, but it's an option, So think tailoring rather than just threethe out the denim that you've got at home.

Yeah, I love that.

I think the same with like even distressing.

We've talked about if you want to try that trend, you have an all pair of jeens you haven't worn for a long time that you're really not going to miss if you know for sure a fan of it.

I feel like that's a fun one to try, maybe some sort of distressing and just see if that trends for you.

I love that and just you you've how to do it?

Yeah, that's what I do.

There's like a million videos on YouTube how to do it nice.

So Chelse, we both brought two pieces of denim to the pod to talk about to discuss how we can style them four ways for each season, which is sort of tricky when you think about styling denim for summer.

But this is a trend we've been seeing.

Denim is becoming an evergreen piece and stayfle within our wardrobe.

So did you want to start with your first piece?

Chells?

Yes, what it is and the four different ways you can style it.

So my first item is a midi denim skirt, which I actually wear very very often.

If I'm not wearing jeans, I'm generally wearing some sort of like a denim skirt.

Nice.

I feel like for summer, I would wear it very simple, I feel no fast, just some sort of like a cropped top or even tuck in a white tea with like a sandal or a kitten hill.

I feel like the less material.

Yeah, very easy, breezy.

In autumn, I mean I love a white tea.

Tucked in a white tea, I would do a leather jacket, sort of that blazer style jacket.

Are you belting as well?

Yes?

Yeah, always with a tucked in white shirt.

Love to throw a belt on.

And I actually love the look of like a white sock with a loafer, especially an autumn.

I love that.

Yeah, you are such a fashion girl.

I love it.

I wear those very often here in the office.

Yeah.

Nice winter.

I love the look of a midi skirt with a knee high boot.

Yeah, I feel like that.

Silhouette would wear that and then throw like a warm kind of like dark long coat over it, which I think would look great.

And finally, for spring, I.

Would do kind of a classic white button down, maybe tucked in or even something like what I'm wearing, like just like a button up that's a bit light.

I would throw on over the denim and then throw on some sneakers I love my Addidas, or maybe a pair of flats.

Cool.

And is there a particular colorway of the denim MIDI?

Yeah, so I have quite a lot.

Of lightwash denim, which I feel like is very versatile because for summer, sometimes darker denim can be a little bit I feel like hard to style for summer.

Lightwash I feel like kind of works for the warmer seasons.

That's a really good point that we didn't talk about, because yeah, those lighter wash have that versatility.

I do love it.

Indigo though, it feels very clean, chic luxury.

Yes, and that's having a massive comeback now like a clean darkwash.

Yeah it is, isn't it.

It went a bit off for a little bit, but I've been seeing that Indigo the Dering World I wore in a few weeks ago with this like Indigo really nice, but you could wear them out to dinner.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so true.

That actually can be styled up I feel like sometimes a lightwash can be hard to make it a little bit more elevated.

I feel like lightwash does look quite casual.

It does.

It's a darker wa wash kind of can be started for a night out or dinner or something like that.

Nice.

Yeah, what's one of your items?

The first item I'm actually wearing today.

It's a denim jacket.

So I really do wear this all year round.

We saw a lot of denim jackets as well at Burbery London Fashion Week, and yeah, this is a soubi jacket and it's oversized as well.

I'm just wearing it as a top, so it's if you're listing at home.

It's literally an oversized jacket that I've got buttoned up.

It was just like a bra underneath, whereas normally if it's sometimes I'd wear like a white shirt underneath.

But what I love about a denim jacket in summer, I tied around my waist, I wear it over my shoulders.

It goes with everything.

You know, how you just want to sort of grab and go with a jacket.

Just in case it gets cold in summer.

Yeah, this'd be my go to spring, which is what we're in at the moment, I'm pairing it with a mini denim skin.

So what I really like and a tip for anyone at home if there is a brand, so for example, this is SUBI, this is the matching skirt.

I was gonna ask because that color matches like identical.

Because that's a bit of a pet peeve that I don't like.

You're trying to match danim and it's like a little bit off and it's like, oh, I hate that same So if you're going to buy a denim jacket, buy try and buy one where it's got the matching skirt.

And I've actually got the matching jeans from Sube as well, So I think I keep mentioning Subie.

I think one teaspoon do it.

There's a few brands out there that you can buy the jacket, the skirt and the jeans, and that gets me through every season.

So right now in spring, I'm wearing it with the skirt and yeah, it's in this Brooklyn color wash is what they call it.

I do also feel like like you were saying, with denim, either you have to be completely the tones need to be far away from each other in completely different or identical.

They're too close, it's yeah, yeah, you're trying to make it work.

That's so right, either completely opposites, which works.

Well.

That's why I really like black and white denim as well.

Yeah yeah, yeah, So this jacket in spring with the miniskirt in autumn, I like wearing it with some sort of layering, like with I could wear this with a MIDI, a lace, miniskirt lace again, anything, as long as you're not trying to pair it with a different style of denim.

Yeah yeah.

And then in winter the Canadian tuxeder I regularly do.

So it is this jacket with the jeans that I've got here, and I only just brought them because I wasn't sure exactly the weather and what I was gonna wear.

But it is this outfit.

If it's super cold, like it does get where I'm from in Barrel, I wear a turtleneck underneath and then the denim jeans and the jeans are just like a straight somewhat baggy yep, and.

It sort of gives like ninety sitcom Ver nineties.

I love that look.

I don't know, I.

Don't think I own actually any like exact matching sets.

I think I just don't do a lot of forward thinking, so when I go to purchase it, I don't really think about purchasing the same thing, like the bottoms from the same brand.

It's a really it's probably my face.

I've got three sets actually, so this one's SUBI.

The other one's wardrobe NYC, really nice black.

I actually got it on eBay because it's quite an expensive brand.

But yeah, secondhand I found both matching.

And then my other one's Age the Australian brand, and that's actually in a light pink wash, really fun.

I love that colored denim actually, like really really nice.

Yeah, that's actually coming back.

I saw Degnata I had a really nice pair of red den and that I wanted to buy.

The Basics was another one.

They had some bubblegum pink jeans which I was so tempted to get.

They're just such a sort of micro trend.

Unless you can tell yourself, like what we're doing now, how can you style it four ways?

Or how can you wear it?

It's not worth investing in it yet.

What's your second piece, sheells.

My second one is a pair of barrel jeans.

You know you won't be wearing.

So barrel jeans for people are listening who don't know.

It's sort of that loose style that kind of wos out and then there's cuffs or like kind of comes in at the ankle, the foot and really just kind of a bit more of a dramatic silhouette, I would say, which I really love.

So for some I would keep it very simple, white tea, tucked in, belt it and then with a pair of sandals or maybe a pair of sneakers.

Very easy.

For autumn, I'd love to do like an oversized sweater, but then like a button up.

I love that.

Yeah, I love very preppy, very like autumn appropriate winter.

Again, I would tuck it in with some sort of like a long sleeve shirt, belt it sort of like a brown coat, a long brown coat over and ballet flats I think would be really really nice for.

See that with a white barrel.

Yes, And then for spring, I actually love the look of just cardigan but nothing else underneath, and just doing the top two buttons top of the poking out a little bit of show.

Yes, I love that.

With like a sneaker.

Yeah, that's feeling very Megan Markle.

It is well not skin exposed, baby Katie Holmes.

Actually, yeah, that cardigan, the cake cardigan.

Yeah, yea, yeah, yeah.

I love how you've style all of that, and I can appreciate you in the barrel jen.

I don't not like the barrel jean.

I just think it's not my go to pair.

Do you own barrel jeans or you're just kind of like.

Do yeah those zebra ones I was talking about barrel Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, So maybe if I were just playing barrel jeans potentially, but I don't know, you know how you sort of grab and go.

It's just a straight classic.

Yeah, I like, and that's sort of what we're talking about at the top of this pod, right any pair of jeans goes right now, yah, bootleg goes.

It's got that Western feel to it.

Yeah, that's true.

So my second item, it's more the color way.

So it's a white pair of denim jeans I have.

That's probably my most own denim I was wearing this last time on the pod, just white pair of denim jeans LEVI riped, cage, high wasted, my go to.

I think I own that white pair of jeans in three different sizes.

You know, sometimes its.

The same white feeling, especially utaels with your ibs flaring up.

You might want to go the worl just some days you want to looser fear, you want it to be a bit more cinched in.

So yeah, I really like the white and I find yeah, I'm just they get dirty so easily.

Anyways, love white denim.

I think it can be scary to some because millennials I remember growing up and we'll be we're so afraid of white because I think fac to they weren't good quality genes.

So they you could sort of see the cellulite through your legs.

They just weren't nice.

Whereas if you can get one hundred percent coddon pair of denim, quality white denim, I love so in summer where religiously with like a cabby or the cuff.

The bottoms rolled off as well.

So if you are sort of beach side and you want to be, because I know denim in summer's a bit weird, but just roll them off.

It's got this cool look to it.

Those square to habanas are talking about spring love white denim with like an Oxford shirt.

I feel like this is maybe a bit more Megan Markle and the good thing with white literally any color goes.

I don't know if you find this shells.

But sometimes with those blues, sometimes you might try and pair it with a color top that doesn't climb match, and only you get it.

I think everyone else would think.

It matches, but you just don't love the combo, whereas at least with white, it goes with everything and it gives like a clean, crisp, clean.

Girl aesthetic look.

I suppose autumn I'd explore a little bit more of the layering, and I find white gives me that clean palette.

So again I could put like a peach or a more like a greeny lime color of brown, or some sort of satin or lace MIDDI skirt over the top.

I also like playing a lot with the vandana belt with white, just to add a little bit of color.

Yeah, and then in winter I do so much tonal dressing, so I'm very much head to show white or hamels, and like, I really play in that space.

I find it if you're wearing white jeans, a nice sort of brown boot somebers I wear all the time, but I like the brown softness of say a boot, not so much heel.

I guess you could wear a black here I wouldn't wear, Yeah, I think brown boots go really nicely with white.

White.

Yeah, yeah, I agree.

I think white is a trick.

I'm one of those people, probably one of those millennials that is just so terrified.

I don't own a white jean.

I know white, black, blue, every wash of blue I got.

I think white, I think white.

It really terrifies me.

I feel like you're right.

Maybe it is the quality of the jean, because I think I have in the past when I was younger, maybe my teenageers owned like skinny jeans that were white.

People think they're not flattering, but I think they're the most flattering color.

That's interesting.

I do think it is that myth though when I don't know if you had this when we were younger, just that the idea that white bottoms are very unfluttering.

Yeah, And I think that's just sort of still playing in my mind because I've seen other people wear them.

I think they look great.

I've just never gone in water pair for myself for that reason.

I think, yeah, well, there you go.

I encourage your day to go have a girl white.

Okay, I'll do white if you do barrel jeans.

At some point I could try.

About It's very expensive.

I wonder, let's jump into bougie and budget, Chelse.

Let's start with your bougie.

What have you got?

I've got barrel jeans.

I feel like that's all I've been talking about people, and I think I'm obsessed with them.

But I've got the gold lunar frayed high rise barrel egg jeans.

They are one hundred and seventy five dollars, which I feel like for a pair of good jeans, like I would pay that for sure, jeans that I would wear and keep.

Do you own it?

Is it a gold or Goldie?

Like call it a Goldie?

I don't know these goldie?

Do you Goldie?

Do you own any Goldie?

I do, yes, it's not these particular ones.

But I do really like their jeans.

I feel like they fit well, They're comfortable, and yeah, I do love that.

A lot of mine are really worn in now, so they're quite comfy and.

Stretched out, which I like.

What shape do you own of the gold.

I have straight leg ones, but I do think I may have to.

I feel like this happens every time where I'm like I recommend something and I'm like I need to buy it.

But I do love a barrel leg jeans, so I feel like this might have to be on the wish list.

And they are such good quality jeans.

There's zero stretch in them, I find.

Yeah, they're very they're quite like tough, I would say, like and like quite structured.

Yeah, they're the most expensive jeans I own.

Actually, oh yeah, okay, interesting.

What kind of fit do you have?

I've got the nineties pinch wast Yeah, okay.

One thing I would say as well, I don't know if you do this just but no one sees the size of your jeans.

I find I sometimes think, oh, I'm gonna get the size, and it's like not really my size, and they don't fit one hundred percent.

Like I just wish I got a size that would look good and like you're good, look good, feel good.

Yeah.

I was wearing a pair of jeans the other day on this podcast and they're just too small.

I ended up having to give them to a friend.

They're just not comfortable.

Yeah, and I have to repurchase them again in their right set.

I love them, they just weren't quite right.

So yeah, look always get the right size because my goaldie, I wish I got a size up.

Actually, yeah, I think I'm the same where I don't do that anymore.

But I feel like there were countless pairs of jeans where I'd always have to undo the top button like eight, and I think now I just kind of go, this is why.

Also like the low rise kind of trend where they kind of set a little bit lower than a little bit looser.

Yeah, I feel like it just kind of takes away the discomfort.

Yeah, that's when you think about they were practical den and they're meant to be comfortable.

And worn all the time.

Yeah, my bougie is the Kate Danny El jeans.

There's us going everywhere on TikTok like they're like the trending, the Danny El Jean.

It's the pair of jeans that Kendall Jenner is obsessed with apparently and always spotted wearing.

And I was in a deep rabbit hole looking at these Danny L jeans and I was so close to pressing by because they just sell you the dream.

They're perfect, they fit perfectly on you, they elongate your legs, and they sound incredible.

It's just the price point I walk at so thousand dollars, like, I just can't do that.

So I put a more practical one in there, the Bear Park Jawts.

If you're going to do jawts, do the bear Park ones.

She's cool.

I love how Gabriella, the founder of Bear Park, styles them, so go look on her instagram as well.

I don't think I'm there yet, but they're very cool.

Yeah, I might have to look into those because I'm a big jawt fan.

I don't know if that's a great entry point at like four hundred and ninety dollars at my stage, I do feel like that feels like a good option.

Yeah, that's true.

That's the best thing with like the cotton On options.

You can experiment with a style and then if you want to invest, go for like.

A bar part.

Yeah, agreed, And what's your budget?

Chelse Well, speaking of cotton on, mine is the cotton On barrel gene and like a medium wash sixty nine ninety five.

So I feel like, yeah, like you were saying, it's a good entry point where if you're not really sure about a style or something that's trending, it's a great way to test it out.

And then yeah, if you really feel like the fit is for you.

It's something that you want to invest in, then make that investment and purchase kind of a more long wearing pair of jeans.

And they're actually not I used to love the condon on Mum jeans.

Looking last night, I couldn't see them online.

I just don't know if they're discontinued.

But the Mum jean my budget is H and M.

It's an oversized denim jacket, similar to what I'm wearing sixty nine to ninety nine.

So if you don't have a jacket, you want to try playing around with a denim jacket.

An oversized denim jacket for spring summer.

Nice entry point because again I don't know, you either have one or you don't.

Do you have a denim jacket?

Yes?

I think my might be from H and M years ago, though not like a new version, but that's actually held up really well, had that for years, and I do feel like a denim jacket is.

Like a course steple for sure.

Yeah, especially for like springing somewhere where like it's you don't want to be too hot.

It's something that you can just throw on that's like very breathable.

So yeah, and generally as well do some shop shopping.

Yeah, that's a good and.

If you do it, just size up, get a few sizes, big good at tailored in.

There's such nice pieces out there.

There's vintage stores like the Redone or Paris Reader where it's vintage Jenim I was looking last night, and great pieces of eighties so jeans from the nineteen eighties Levi's.

But they're like, you're still paying like eight hundred dollars on these sites.

For vintage, but you could do it yourself.

So it's finding that pair and then just tailoring it yourself because that's really all.

You're paying for.

Yeah, that's true, and the styling.

But if you found a really good tailor who could like cut in and start and taylor properly, you could definitely.

Do it yourself.

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