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Puppets: Chapters 7&8

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Speaker 1

Passages contains graphic and explicit sexual content.

Listener discretion is advised.

Welcome, Oh yeah, welcome to Passages.

Passages.

Speaker 2

Indulge me now if you will hang cobwebs and shadows in your mind, think darkness and danger too, entails from another time.

Speaker 1

Travel with me, please, into the darkened recesses of other people's minds, to a world of.

Speaker 3

Wood and cloth and stream.

Speaker 2

This season of Passages is a Harlequin intrigue again, Puppet's Bobby.

Speaker 3

Passages Puppets.

Speaker 4

Hey there, everybody, I just wanted to jump in here quick to let you know that for once, we had a T shirt idea and actually followed through on it.

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We talk about the shirt design towards the end of the episode, but I just wanted to jump in here at the top and let you know new shirt is now available.

Okay, that's all for me.

Speaker 2

So Amanda and I and Aarin just watch the Little Something.

You guys, you.

Speaker 1

Guys, Okay, if you listen to Wine and Crime and you're you're subscriber, then you've probably heard I think Lucy did a drunk dive.

Speaker 2

This sounds very much like a Lucy topic.

Speaker 1

So I made halves for a chin joke on TV that some YouTube thing we were watching I don't even know, and Robbie didn't get it, and I made him stop whatever we were watching to the point where I don't even remember what it was.

There was a red letter media something, so they flashed like some scary picture of something.

Anyway, we just watched the most amazing video by was Lindsay Lindsay Something does history tea time time?

Yeah, with Lindsay Holiday, maybe I think you're right.

Speaker 2

I think that's right.

It is wow s spectacular.

Speaker 3

It's just about the Habsburg.

Speaker 1

We were fucking gags from the beginning to end.

Speaker 2

It's got thrills, it's got chills and all.

It's just this is what happened in sequence.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and it's it's it's all historical fact.

Speaker 2

Seems very well researched.

Speaker 1

Very well researched, very straightforward, very dry.

It's not there's no comedy, no, no, no.

Speaker 2

The comedy is.

Speaker 1

Purely even see her, you hear her and see photo references like historical port.

Speaker 5

The comedy is purely in how deadpan she's.

Speaker 2

The divine retribution they're talking.

Speaker 1

About when King Charles the third or whatever habsburg brought it was a baby and he was like covered in scabs, and just the list his brutal didn't the fotel didn't, and just the list of brutal, and he had a constant weeping sore behind his right ear.

Speaker 3

So they just put a bonnet.

Speaker 2

They were like, put him fixed a bonnet to it.

Speaker 3

Robbie Positive just goes, I don't know, put a bond of it.

Speaker 2

So uh No, the comedy comes from just the well, the savagery of genetics.

I mean, just all the circumstances.

Speaker 3

But it keeps pointed moment.

Speaker 2

Oh god, brutal shade.

Speaker 1

It was such and again it's a totally deadpan purely historically.

Speaker 2

This was not done maliciously.

Speaker 1

This is an educational video they're talking about.

Speaker 2

Sorry.

The Habsburd job, for those of you who don't know, is a famous mutation that the very very inbred like royal family, I think the kings of Spain and Austria.

They were super powerful warlords.

They were trying to cling to power, and one of the ways that they did that is by securing very literally incestuous power or alliances within the families.

And they got they got to the point that they could predict facial deformities and things that were going to happen to the next generation.

They didn't know what they were exactly.

Speaker 1

They thought they were cursed.

Speaker 2

They literally thought that they were caused by goblins at one at one point in the story.

But they had these massive jaws, these insane jaws from a particular mandibular horror.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and they were trying to well, okay, they were trying to compare it to a more common not defect, but like facial structure of the jaw, where the jaw if you have an underbike bigger, Yeah, the jaw could be bigger.

You can have an underbyte that might need like correct or surgery or something like that.

And there's a cut to example and it's just a modern day photo of.

Speaker 3

The most formal.

Speaker 2

And it's like, so they had just this list of ghoulish nightmara here comes j leto and there's probably they probably show like three hundred photos or portraiture portrait.

This is the only modern just here comes leto again Habsburg job.

Speaker 3

It was we were dying.

I'm shore pants, so Lindsay Holiday.

Speaker 1

Channel, well done.

We immediately subscribed.

We'll be watching many more of your historical videos.

Speaker 2

We will be making reaction content to all of your deformity.

Speaker 1

That was honestly the most fun I've had in a minute, maybe outside of pro bit, because I really love this book.

Speaker 2

This has been really fun.

We've had a gutbuster per at least per episode where I like had tears in my eyes.

Speaker 3

I am consistently delighted.

Speaker 2

It's so funny because it's it's it's it's well written, it's decently plotted, but the comedy comes from just like the sheer earnestness and enthusiasm and with with which they present nonsense and absurdity non nonsense.

So I just heard a short, like little debate argument between Kristin Shall and the guy who does Anthony Jesslnick, who does the like tight tightly written jokes with a really shocking mean ending.

And that's like all he does is these really well written shocking little jokes with like a surprise ending, and so that's yes, So his assertion to Kristin Shawl was comedy come is surprise And she was like, well, it can be, and it can also be from commitment to the bit.

But and he's like, no, it's all surprised with the confidence of a white, medio, whiteyocre white man who's you know, he's very accomplished.

Speaker 3

But you don't have to be great to be.

Speaker 2

She's like, you can't just solve comedy.

You can't just solve comedy.

I think puppet solves comedy because I think that it is both the surprise and the earnestness.

I think that cringe is a kind of comedy too, yes, and that does not come from surprise.

No, no, And I think that's a So it's just like horror is broken into terror, the anticipation, the revulsion.

There's all these like ingredients in horror.

Speaker 1

So I think remember when Charles the Third's dad to fulfill a prophecy given to him by an astronomer that his next uh.

They were like, you know what, uranus is in retrograde, So you're having a son, but only if you only eat eggs.

Speaker 2

So he only ate eggs.

Speaker 1

So is this different monster?

Horrifyingly has had like ten about it.

Speaker 3

It makes me feel physically sick, Like the thought.

Speaker 2

Shoveling eggs after egg into his jaw that won't close into his jaw, that like is slung down bits of spittle and egg like oozing out on eating your Amanda mouth into your mouth where you then.

Speaker 3

Have to try eggs in a time when everyone reeked.

Speaker 2

Anyway, just the sulfur emitting out of that man's pores must have been breath taking.

Speaker 1

But has it worked?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

To his credit, to his credit, he had a.

Speaker 3

Little a little little little sun.

Speaker 2

Oh.

Yeah, they were not totally The short child was so deformed.

They were not totally sure of its gender, and they just went sun, we need an air son and they put a bonnet on it cover channel, which we decided was the end of the vagina vagina.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and that if you only eat eggs during concept, the time of conception, you could potentially give your child head ute uterus and wonderful this genitals grow in your head.

Speaker 2

Really pretty incredible?

What?

Speaker 5

What?

Speaker 6

What?

Speaker 2

Pretty incredible?

What cults and like money and power and the lust for it will do to humanity literally shape them into into caricatures of real humans right now?

Yeah, I mean I mean the g are them.

They are demons.

I'm sorry, Look, Judge.

Speaker 3

You're all deeply sick.

Speaker 2

He's so sick hiding in sewers and Alley.

Speaker 1

Cruz don't have a little there's no way.

Speaker 2

And and perhaps it's like some sort of spiritual corruption.

They're like evil seeping through their very poores.

So puppets, So puppets.

Okay, So that was great, But so Christian Shall said, comedy is more complicated.

She's like, no, there's like more into it, and like, of course she can't break down a I mean, like you can be you can be regressive and like argue anything back to surprise.

Sure, but like yeah, so yes, comedy evolved from people who had reactions to shocking things that were pleasant instead of debilitating, survived and passed down this trait where we if something like shocks the shit out of us, we laugh.

But there's something a little bit different.

It's not just that the things and puppets are shocking.

It's that they're a little cringe a little like, but they're so full throated and so fun is whimsical and weirdly and and yeah, and it's like and then this happens.

It's the confidence with it's the confidence with which something bad is like or sort of ill advised, necessarily bad.

But it's like I'm talking about like the the disaster pieces like the Room and the Obrien and these people are like where it's not just that what they're doing is wrong and dumb and shocking, it's that it's also just like so earnest and confident, erroneously confident.

Okay, So anyway, this is how we got into puppets with a man who an ill man, he's very sick, slithered through a secret in a puppet theater, which is it a.

Speaker 1

Secret door because we found out last week, but like five different people know he's down there.

Speaker 2

Okay, here's something that I think you learn in the next.

Speaker 1

And one of them also lives that he's got a roommate that he didn't know.

Speaker 2

Doesn't know about.

Yeah, Sophia the Goblin lives in the sewer tunnels with.

Speaker 1

Him and knows how to get roll the way out to the other end.

Speaker 2

But I was gonna say, I think that the puppet theater is so full of secret passages that people who know about the secret passages never know about all of them.

So because there's a scene a bit in the next two chapters where two characters are like, oh, have you found another secret passage?

Francoist like, so they know they're there, they just don't know where all of them are.

And apparently he neither does the architect who has the blue prints for the place, because he doesn't know about Sophia's ins and outs.

Wow, it's great.

So uh last week, last story.

Speaker 1

We met Sophia the Goblin, the goblin woman who lives in the vault.

Speaker 2

And in the labyrinth with David Bowie.

Speaker 3

Yep, and the Laby David.

Speaker 1

We also found out that Louise comes and goes from the vaults and literally asked him if he wanted anything from top side, and instead of saying please medicine, I'm very sick, he said, move the puppets.

Speaker 3

Around a little bit.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I want to.

Speaker 1

I want to scare pe Bet ruin Babet's week.

Speaker 2

That bitch.

Speaker 1

She's like sure, so she does.

Babbett does freak out, and then Ian her kind of the middleman between the puppet Master and their little thieving ring in the puppet theater.

Speaker 2

Wait for the puppet Master.

Speaker 1

Oh my god, it would be amazing.

Speaker 2

She's a thief.

Speaker 1

But anyway, Ian has lunch with the Master, who's still not revealed, and is trying to be like, hey, maybe we shouldn't use bad bet for a while.

She is a loose she's a liability.

This is like becoming a problem here.

Speaker 2

And I think that we are too suspect that perhaps this is what happened to the costumer.

Speaker 1

Yes, because yeah, we also found out that uh also was in this little thieving ring in the game.

Speaker 3

Yep.

So those are kind of like the important points.

Speaker 2

But the ending where he gets caught in the office.

Speaker 1

Raoul comes back out through one of the many secret passages that goes directly into Ian's.

Speaker 2

Office, probably one of three or.

Speaker 1

Four, turns his nose up at Ian's porn, which we say, fuck off Raoul, and.

Speaker 2

What a what a bad guy.

Speaker 3

He is a bad guy he is.

Speaker 1

We get a great scene with Philip Hambone Toppingham coming in.

Speaker 3

Hamlet hamble hamblet up Toppingham.

Speaker 2

Coming hambletub hambletub topping him.

Yeah, we really really get into that.

Speaker 1

I've been listening to the Scruples season.

Speaker 2

Oh those are the good old days.

Speaker 3

I really missed Russell.

Speaker 2

Oh god, I feel like my so my very first boyfriend was this guy named Scott Russell.

Speaker 3

Was this guy named Russell.

Speaker 2

Was this guy nam Scott, and he was lovely and pretty and blonde and very smart and nice.

But then after the summer that we dated, he he was going to move to France, and so we moved to France and he became a puppet.

Puppet he lives and I get emails from him on LinkedIn where he's like, He's like if you And that's funny because I've worked with puppets in theater and stuff, so like he was trying to LinkedIn me about puppet stuff and I'm just like no.

So he did not become a puppet person.

But what I was saying is all I dated other people after that who I liked or whatever, but I always.

Speaker 1

They never measured up to nevers.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so that's the thing is I kind of feel like I've liked I thought the Twilight season was fun, I thought PDA was super good.

Warriors Woman was obviously a mess that we tried our best to get through.

But I kind of I kind of always look back fondly, you know.

When I was in my twenties, I would look back fondly on that first beautiful buy that's my scruples.

I kind of feel like that one Scott was my scruples or something just really special about that book.

So but can I just say this one was fucking coming in hot.

Love it to come in hot.

Speaker 1

So yeah, we get a really funny scene with Hambleton drinking Ian's booze and like leaving him a note and then uh, he leaves.

Raul comes back out reads the note.

It's like a couple of names and an address like a cafe.

Yeah, and then he gets well, we'll find out if he gets caught, but he's trapped in this room in the.

Speaker 2

Office, definitely not going to be able to make it to his scuttle hole in time.

Speaker 1

Ian is finally returning to his office and going to catch him red handed, but he hopes that the sun coming through a window will be blinding enough.

Speaker 2

That he won't see him in there, for.

Speaker 3

Ian won't be able to tell that it's Raoul.

Speaker 2

Okay, that doesn't come up again, That's what he's like.

The blinding sun does not come up quite again.

So Ian is coming into the office.

The door has shut.

Raoul is inside, can't make it to his scuttle hole in time.

The door is shut, they're locked in together.

The door was closed, bolted, no chance now of escaping undetected.

That left only one option.

Bloody hell, Raoul muttered to himself, his muscles tightening instinctively.

Five strides carried him to the desk.

Ian was there already and about to turn.

Raoul couldn't allow that to happen.

He launched himself from the wall.

Ian's head came up.

He looked sharply right, but couldn't have seen clearly the man who wrenched one arm behind his back.

He cried out, but only for an instant, and then Raoul's hand was on his penis, stroking back and forth.

If you're quiet a sick, No, that's sorry.

Then Raoul's hand was on his neck, slamming his head with force into the nearest wall.

Ian's body swamped to the floor.

Raoul looked down frankly.

He found the side of Ian lying there, unconscious, strangely pleasurable, and he completed upon his prone body.

Raoul wasn't cruel, but perhaps he had a little.

He become a little bit colder, a little harder looking.

Get you in la, they're unconscious.

Since his confinement in the walls.

So he fucking choked him out.

He fucking knocks him out.

No, he chokes him.

Speaker 3

He doesn't even choke him out him.

Speaker 2

He slams his head against the wall and just knocks him the fuck out, so that later Ian has this like comic sandage front front of his forehead and it's like skin colored.

He's like trying to he's trying to hide.

He's like, I just I don't have a man stage makeup.

Yeah.

So yeah, he knocks him the fuck out.

Speaker 1

You know what, dude, you gotta do.

Speaker 2

Okay, He's like, fuck, what do I fucking do?

Okay, get back in your hole.

He has to look like a burglary, steal the poor.

He starts stealing all the stuff out of his Ian's desk, He steals his wallet, he takes his watch, He like rummages through, and then as he's about to leave, he goes fuck the safe.

The safe and the director's offices right across the street, right across the hall.

I have to crack the He cracks the safe, open, steals one.

Then I have to up the director.

I have to go get their offices too, because who would break in here and only after the stage manager and not the more lucrative targets across the way.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's actually really fair.

So he's smarter than I was giving him credit for the plotting in this Everyone he's hiding in the vault and it comes out every night to reveal himself.

Speaker 2

Two a myriad of different goblins.

Yeah, so I do think that it is interesting that just like a modicum of like thinking about what characters would or should do in a situation.

A long fucking way.

Yeah, I'm just gonna leave that there, Okay.

So he's like, all right, I have no choice.

I have to go get those offices across the way.

How quiet it was up on the fifth floor of the theater, Katerina thought this was the private level and unearthly sanctuary from city noise.

Cool Stone corridors branched off in a dozen directions to rooms that had been boarded up before two years, two centuries ago, and inside them what dusty furniture, cobbed webbed puppets or silent secrets?

Only riddles like Sophia, She murmured as she passed Ian's office.

Oh shit, so she walks the fuss.

Speaker 1

So he is office is at the end of a hallway that's full of like unused crosskey ghostridge.

Yeah, ghosts, Ian, you can have the Both of the nice offices.

Speaker 2

Are all the corridor of the ghost storage units where they keep all the ghosts.

And she came up there to see Francois.

So she's actually headed to Francois's.

Speaker 1

Office, like racism earlier was really uncomfortable.

Just because the potential architect is Venezuelan doesn't.

Speaker 3

Mean he's not gonna go.

Speaker 1

Yeah, she's gonna go and tell her she's gonna go advocate.

Speaker 2

Hey, actually maybe the hr person should be present form okay, uh So then she's thinking back on the girls like not pillow talk, but like chop talk, locker room locker room talk, gossip sessh about Francois.

She's heading up to see he never comes out of the shadows.

Genevieve and Wardrobe insisted when he goes out of the theater, he always wears a hat and a long black coat and white gloves.

Maybe they are not gloves at all, but he's skiing.

Speaker 3

France wall is the puppet master.

Speaker 2

Bloodless skiing of the undead.

So the girls in Wardrobe are like ghost stories about their surmising that he's a vampire, so they call him Count Francois.

So all the girls in the wardrobe department call him Count Francois because he's very handsome, but he's so pale those white gloves.

Speaker 1

Claudio worked in wardrobe.

M hmm, so they maybe he didn't like her nicknaming him Count Francois.

He killed her and he's also the puppet mass.

Speaker 2

The stab wounds cover up the holes in her neck.

He is a vampire and he drank her blood, but then he sliced her up so she wouldn't rise again.

Speaker 1

Is it undead?

Speaker 2

Okay?

Yeah, so she she starts to think about him like, ooh, he reminds me of No, She's like Francois was a spooky man, Katerina couldn't deny it, but certainly not an undead thing.

He was more like the Italian Merchant, a figure of mystery from a legend.

Bunny, so her fucking obsession.

Speaker 1

Remember the Italian Merchant, Yeah, gena, I'll make your dear Yeah.

Speaker 2

The puppet guy who had Little Mignon come to life.

Bought magical goulden thread like like Jack and the Bean sock from an Italian merchant because you know Italians are magic.

That's right, ever, you bog, that's your fulfillment of your deepest desire, your puppet to come a life, so you can fuck it's a change for this theater that you own.

Yeah.

So Katerina consistently is obsessed with this legend that she tells every day to children.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and so she's well the masses, yeah, but she's working in the theater.

Speaker 2

It's weird.

It's it's very obsessive of this legend of Genevic or whatever his name is and the Italians with She's like obsessed with this concept.

That's why I'm wondering if this phantom double phantom situation is going to happen.

All right, So she walks in and catches Yeah, like he's literally got poor snack of money under one arm, like with a big dollar sign on it on the ground, raccoon burglar out like har fits on.

She's like, what are you doing?

Raoul snatched his dark head up, don't worry about it for an instant he chokes her.

He bashes her head heads.

Speaker 3

Along and then puts a bontet on.

Speaker 2

To cover the weeping wound mine under her ear for an instant.

Katerina thought she saw a flicker of guilt in his eyes, a child caught with his head in the kuki jar.

But he vanished, It vanished swiftly.

A second later he had her I read this, has had her hair.

He had her by the wrist and was setting her firmly against the office wall.

Oh the cat didn't move.

Oh, there's a little kitty.

There's a kitty cat, Francoise, kitty cat outside the room.

That's important later somehow, it doesn't well funny that you should say that it doesn't actively snitch.

But okay, so the cat didn't move, Kurt, Katerina didn't breathe.

It was a ridiculous time to notice.

But Sophia was right.

Raoul did have beautiful, riveting eyes.

So she she catches him stealing.

He shoves her up against the wall and she's like, no, silly to notice it now, But oh, my god, his eyes are so beautiful.

No, we might kill me, but it's so hard, my god.

I hope he does kill me, and then he will be eats me afterwards.

Edward Edward head first.

Speaker 5

Head first, headward, God, he's Edward Colin, headward in a sexual capacity.

Speaker 2

That's so funny.

All right.

Speaker 3

So she's like lingas he's like, you should you shouldn't.

Speaker 2

Be head first, Edward.

H no, if we ever fucking talked about in the middle, he starts chewing on her thigh and she goes now and a manaespecially freak out special content.

Speaker 3

This is from like at least fifteen.

Speaker 2

Yeah, this is back.

We were in a loft Poison Ivy, Poison IVY starting to barrymore.

Yeah, because it was the original was Tom Barry or Drew Berry Moore, Tom Scarett, It might have been Poison Ivy two, they're all the same.

Speaker 1

We were not watching the original Poison IVY, but we were watching one of the other Poison ivies and it's really erotic like porn.

Speaker 3

But yeah, it took it to like the next level there.

You told me it was n C seventeen.

I would have been like.

Speaker 2

If there was an n C seventy cut of it somewhere, I wouldn't have been surprised.

Speaker 3

So, yeah, someone's like giving her head or whatever.

Speaker 2

You don't need to know anything.

But it's just just like it's sort of Lolita, like younger women's soft gorous.

Speaker 1

Soft corn soft porn, soft core porn, so like you don't even see nipple, Like you don't see She's in like a full lingerie and they are simulating and they're cuddling.

Speaker 3

He is so obviously just gnawing.

Speaker 2

His face is nowhere near her, and I was like, he's just binding her side.

That's not how you'll do it.

All the is going on.

Speaker 3

I don't remember which one of us.

Speaker 2

Yeah it was, and then I just we were portraying the water now in mana we I think as our pants just so fucked, so stupid, and from from then on we will.

Speaker 3

It makes me laugh every time we still say it.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah.

And so this this is one of those story scenarios where uh slams her into the wall and she's like, oh my god, he's so in the mid he punches and he patches her head against the no, no in the man Okay, So she says, He's like, you shouldn't be up here, and he goes, don't ask me to explain this, and she goes, okay, please put your gonna She's like, explain what you're robbing Franzois's office.

I know what's happening.

Oh no, she catches him like three robberies.

Duck, there's another office.

I guess i'd better, you know, he fucking just like drags all this furniture out of all.

Okay, you have to trust me.

This isn't what it seems.

And he and she says, talk to me, please.

I won't turn you, Raoul, turn you in, Raoul.

You know I won't.

He let out a deep breath, pressing his forehead for a moment against hers.

Well, he again still has her pined against a.

Speaker 3

Wall, and he's still sick.

Speaker 2

He is still sick.

Yes, you believe me, and I don't even know why.

Because you're hot.

I'm grateful for that, but you're missing something important here.

Every question I answer will only put you in greater danger.

I started this, but it can't go any And then she's like, no, tell me, and he's like, okay, this theft is necessary to cover up a similar one in Renshaw's office.

Blah blah blah blah.

You robbed Ian two.

That probably shouldn't shock her, but it did.

Why because he came in unexpectedly when I was searching.

Then he saw you.

She stopped as Roll gave his head a slow shake.

He didn't see you, She finished, Her momentary confusion cleared, Suddenly, you mean you knocked him out?

Yes, and then to make it look like a burglary, I went through his office and Pierre Fussards and now this one.

It made sense.

It wasn't ethicult, but ethics didn't concern Katerina right then.

Speaker 1

Now, when you're hot, ethics are all the winter.

Speaker 2

I think that's pretty privilege, so true, so real as I mean, if the guy was hot enough, I would definitely be like, tell me everything.

I believe you, the earth is flying, You're right.

I should kill myself and let you get away with it.

Sucker for her pretty face always have been Yeah, Aaron, it wasn't ethical, but ethics didn't concern Katerina right then.

As strange as it seemed, nothing mattered except proving Rabus innocent.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Crime after crime after crime.

Speaker 2

Is four or five crimes deep.

Speaker 1

He lives in the sewers.

Speaker 2

Your job.

The first time you saw him, he was like, got gotcha.

Speaker 3

He's Danny DeVito's penguin.

Speaker 2

He fucking lives in the sewer.

He robs, he lurks, he's evading the police.

He's the number one suspect in a recent homicide.

Speaker 3

He's a batman villain.

Speaker 2

Yeah, he's fucking if I love solve a riddle before he let her live.

He only could be more ghoulish.

And she's like, but he's hot.

I love him.

The sound of footsteps echoed far away in the hall.

The cat meowed loudly and took off down the corridor.

To Katerina's head snapped up.

Someone was coming.

She grabbed Rawooda's arm, but he had already heard okay, and I wrote the word cockmatized here.

Speaker 1

She is hard.

Speaker 2

So she now not only is not going to tell on him for the let's call it the fifth crime that she's seen him commit, she says, I'll try to stow them, and she she decides she's gons accomplice.

Now she's an accomplice.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so.

Speaker 2

Uh, She's just like, I just can't let this happen.

I can't let him get caught.

I believe him, and so I'm gonna protect him.

Speaker 1

Does he crawled back in his hole behind the wardrobe.

Speaker 2

And she's like Luther said, I was good at I was good at get Yeah, people's intentions.

Speaker 1

He's like the guy from the Shining Yes, that's what I picture Luther.

Speaker 2

Is, yes, for sure, Stay calm now, Caddie, she thought.

She tossed her hair and slipped into the right angled passageway.

But then a noise erupted from one of the branch corridors, and she froze.

Who else was up here?

Pierre obviously wondered the same thing.

He stopped walking.

Oh, so it's Pierre down the hallway.

Katerina didn't move.

She didn't want to attract his attention prematurely.

So there's like someone else in the rafters up here with them, so and so, and now.

Speaker 1

The are in the rafters.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

So now Pierre is up there and is looking down the hallway and hears like someone else off in the rafters somewhere.

So there's four people up here.

It's Katerina, Rahul someone in the darkness, and Sophia drops from the sea.

He throws a bag of eggs like into his face.

Stop with the eggs.

Katerina didn't move.

She didn't want to attract his attention prematurely.

Her fingers curled into a fist where they rested on the wall.

Do something, she willed him, see who's making the noise?

Rabu needs time to get away She's not thinking of herself.

She just wants him to see someone else and get distracted.

Francois, is that you?

Okay?

So now Pierre sees Francois rummaging around in the fucking rafters of the building.

Speaker 1

Ew the vampire man.

Speaker 2

Yeah so yeah, so there's four people up here, and this is where he finds another secret passage.

Speaker 1

Also, imagine going up to your office and your business partner is scurreying in the.

Speaker 2

Like and like secret passage was I.

Speaker 3

Have to buy him out.

Speaker 2

A chill slid down her spine, fear, not for all the horror she knew, but for the one she didn't.

This theater was a magic place, and yet a woman had been murdered here, killed by someone who still wandered about freely, someone who might decide they even need to kill a game.

She's like up there in the dark and is realizing, like, I'm like now involved in people looking into murders in this theater.

It's like she's realizing it for the first time.

If Raoul didn't do it.

Speaker 3

The consequences are very serious.

What you're fucking with here?

Speaker 2

Yeah, if Raoul didn't do it, then the person who did is it probably here in the building somewhere it's one of these people and not in the vaults.

And not in the vaults, yeah, because because he lives down there with many others.

Okay, So Pierre scolds Francois and then is basically like bitching about, Like he's like, if you're rummage around, if here, you're gonna knock stuff around, and you're gonna damage these doors, and where will we get the money necessary to restore that many rooms along here?

Oh?

Speaker 1

And then France Will is like, well, we've just been robbed and I saw the whole thing.

Speaker 2

No, then he says, you have the money, my friend, Francois replied, So he seemed to insinuate that Francois is rich, And that just just stuck out to me that he said that.

There was a mocking edge to his voice.

There always was, though Katerina never really understood it.

So these two like seem to not like each other very much.

Truthfully, she didn't understand their whole partnership.

Yeah, okay, so this of course immediately made made me be like, okyah, it's two grown men, they argue like a married couple.

Yeah, yeah, they own a puppet theater together.

Paris like, okay, it's all I'm saying.

They might be a little couple here.

Speaker 3

They have a summer home in Miami.

Speaker 2

If ever, two people appeared to not like each other, these men were the ones.

But what if that was even deeper than that?

What if neither of them thought Rabul killed Claudia.

Maybe each one suspected the other.

So she's eavesdropping on the two of them.

Now she's in the dark.

There's a murderer on the loose.

She's realizing she's now like involved.

Speaker 3

And standing in the rubble of two looted.

Speaker 2

Offices in a building full like of Swiss cheese secret passages with her prints all Scooby doo arm could come out, ye rabber into the darkness at anytime, all right.

So Pierre is like, where's your cat?

I'm a dais.

Francois chuckled.

I have not seen him.

Why because I saw the wretched creature he ran.

So he describes the cat ran past him but hasn't come back, and he's like, I want to know if your cat is in the fucking walls.

And then Francois is like, oh, you think I found a secret passage in here that you don't know about, and he's like, no, I don't think you found secret passages.

I don't care about secret passages, but but do care if they did tell me husband.

Speaker 1

Secrets of each other were partners business partners and only roommates.

Yes, so.

Speaker 2

They're wearing each other's shirts like okay, So so he says, no, I don't care about secret passageways.

I uh.

He says that he thinks that the building might be settling and that the cat has like gotten into the walls through like an opening, and I just want to know the wall.

So they get onto this arguing about you could pass away, and he's like, you don't give a shit about the cat.

Like by they're just kind of bitching at each other.

But then but the Caddy listens to them like bicker at each other about walls and architects and costs and just goes, what a spooky conversation.

Get out of here, Caddy now.

And then she like tries to make it down the hallway.

They hear her.

Speaker 3

Is Luther's voice in her head again?

Speaker 2

Yeah?

She runs down the hallway.

They hear her going by, and one of them goes, oh, mice, you know in the hallway and then she makes it around the corner just in time for them to come around the corner, and so she has to do that thing where she's going away from them, and then she swirls around.

No, I'm coming towards you.

So she's trying to make it back out, but then she gets cal god, I just she has to be like, oh, I just got here.

So it's like they're going down the hallway one way and if she could make it around a corner, she could escape, but she doesn't, so that she has to spin around and be like, I just came up here to find you.

Yeah, I came up here to look for you.

And she has his letters, that's what she brought.

They were given to her by mistake, and that is why she came up here originally.

But there's this great moment where she's like making eye contact with Pierre and Francois and like do they know?

Do they know that I was up here before?

Like but she doesn't know.

She can't like read their faces.

So I thought it was great.

It was a great little bit of like, yeah, back and forth intrigues, subterfuge, like who knows what about?

Who did you catch?

Me and are not letting on.

Speaker 1

I love it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it was all great, dispenseful.

Speaker 2

Yeah, this whole like little segment was all really nicely done.

Uh.

And then but essentially at the end of it, she seems to have gotten away with it.

Okay, it grows late.

You should change your costume.

That Bet will return from dinner soon, and then the mirrors will be lost to both you and Louise.

Please let route will have gotten away.

Katerina nodded, you're right, of course, I'll go now.

I hope you break a leg tonight, Pierre mart remarked in parting, and as she turned away, Katerina prey, that was the worst thing that would happen to her.

Oh shit, So there's so that that chapter is.

This is a great little game of cat and mouse in the shadows.

But again, the ridiculous thing is that she has decided to throw herself into intrigue and harm's way.

Speaker 1

With like not really questioning.

No, she didn't like this, this is happening now.

Speaker 2

She didn't even think maybe I shouldn't be doing this.

No, not really immediately jumps to raw Wolf's hot defense.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the second she sees him, it's game over.

Speaker 1

If she had only, like I feel like, if there had been more lead up to the like then bumped into each other of the first fucking chapter, we could have gotten there.

Speaker 2

She heard him like playing music down there, and she was like, I'm going down there to find the music.

Yeah, she had heard it.

It wasn't like she heard it for weeks and finally was like she was the first time.

Yeah, so she heard it and went down there like like like she was possessed.

Speaker 1

But these books are short, so we don't have.

Speaker 2

We don't know after the last one.

I'm here for it.

Would rather a book be underwritten?

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, Amanda, let's stop the smunt for just a moment.

Run some ads.

Oh, enough of this.

Speaker 6

Ian the puppet Master warned, your complaints, grotiaresome.

Speaker 2

You're just gonna do the puppet Master as Emperor Palpatine, possibly because you aren't suffering the after effects of a blow to the head, Ian thought, with a spite.

He didn't dare display.

They walked in picturesque monmart today Mountain of Martyrs?

Was there a message in that I inside?

There was sunshine on his face and a cemetery at his side.

The person in charge had a malicious sense of humor.

So he's brought him here to a place called Mountain of Martyrs and is having a chat with him by a cemetery.

And Ian is so paranoid that he's like.

Speaker 1

It will or would be so funny if this guy turned out to be Francois and he didn't know they were the same person, because at work, Francois is always like shrouded the dark darkness and wears like a big hat.

Speaker 2

And there's white gloves.

Oh, in the last chapter she did see that, and this might and why I'm bringing this up, this is a mystery book.

It could be a clue is that those are white gloves.

And his skin tone is very olive, so he's not actually super pale.

He just hides in the shadows and wears white gloves and is very a feet and vampire ish.

Got it?

Yeah, we verge on an important time, he remarked, finally, gazing out to the unripened vines beneath that impassive surface beat a scorpion's heart.

He hadn't even asked about Ian's injuries.

Speaker 6

Many parties I held this menth he went on, you receive the doubt if you praise name and address I Christ.

Speaker 2

Your thief did not steal this.

Now he mocked the incident, infumed, but said calmly, I have it good, then proceed as sense.

So Ian is like, wait, we're not gonna try and figure out who robbed me?

Speaker 7

And he's like, ship, no, you dumb ship.

We're not bringing the cops in here.

That's essentially what he says.

Do I make myself clean in three days?

Speaker 6

The Fontaines of Argentina I have planned, yes, that to celebrate that engagement.

Speaker 1

Of that, the Fontanes of Argentina are coming here to do their party, their engagement party at.

Speaker 2

The the King of Austria is cunning.

No, this is like modern All the Habsburgs are dead by this.

What Oh no, wait, there is one line of them, isn't there through France.

There's a little lingering in France.

Oh lord, okay, yeah, So the Fontaines are coming Desmond withd host there and you will spring geta at the chateau in Versay and these festivities we shell at tin.

Perhaps I will bring a date this time.

I have not decided date affair.

I will give you your instructions.

Speaker 6

Now we will wait on the other you mull pass my orders, allowed to out troop this evening.

Speaker 2

Eddian, you will watch Babet closely.

Inde, you will watch Babet closely in this and Ian looks over at the cemetery and is like, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1

I boss, Yeah, I'm not dying on this.

Speaker 2

Okay, And now we get to the real magic of this evening.

Bad Bet is drunk and so pissed off and throwing a fucking fit in the back room tantrum.

Oh, pretend me.

How does Giovanni bring his behevid Migno to the ife with the golden threads given to him by the Italian merchant, truly Maggie.

So she's screaming at Katerina about the myth that they tell tourists every day, and that's just how this starts.

I swear to God, I'm shy.

I am so excited to read this chapter to you because it comes in really hot and is so funny and confusing.

Okay, So she's screaming at her, and then Katerina has a little like flashback where she's like, everything seems chill after what happened.

So all the excitement after the robberies, after all the excitement after the robberies can died down quickly.

No mention of ra will Senna as a possible suspect.

Okay, so she's like sweet and and Philip described it as described it away as bad publicity.

Philip had informed her Riley the morning after, We'll have none of that in this theater.

Speaker 3

Ham Hambone smile dazzled.

Speaker 2

So what do you say, love dinner tonight?

I have it all arranged, dinner and stories and mysteries from another time.

I know how much you enjoyed it.

Yes, she did, and Giovanni's legend most of all, Philip did know.

Speaker 1

After working all day in the minds of Giovanni's legend, I have arranged a very special night for you to experience Giovanni's legend at a different restaurant.

Speaker 2

She's like that, fuck, yeah, it's.

Speaker 1

The thing I've always wanted.

Speaker 2

It's a thing I want most in the world.

Okay, okay, so she gets super excited about it.

She's like, you really know how to tempt me for that selfish reason, plus plus a few more disturbing ones.

She accepted his invitation last night, and as a result had to deal with Babette's jealous fury tonight.

Speaker 1

I a breakup to keep body Worlds exhibit.

I really wanted to see it.

This an expensive ticket.

Speaker 2

Did you tell Phelipe how Giovanni took the gold threads from the merchant and prayed me to Mino's hair?

Bet demanded, did you go further and pretend to be Minno for him?

With her free hand, she grabbed Katerina's arm, pulling her to a stop in the deserted corinor so she's assaulting her?

Black eyes glared, I hate you, Kaina had her arm free feelings mutual bad bed feelings?

Hack?

What do you know of feelings?

What do you know anything?

What?

Enough?

Katerina started walking.

Don't touch me, she warned.

When bet Bet would have grabbed her again, the woman's hand fell.

There was a slash of wine and then a venomous way.

Did you go to Philip's apartment?

Did he fuck you?

Did you let him fuck your ass?

Let me smell yours?

You smell that hambleton?

Speaker 1

Why is she okay?

Speaker 2

No, no explanation is given.

They weren't like fiances or like she just really likes him.

Speaker 1

Did you tell Philip again how Giovanni took the gold threads from the merchant into Mignon's air.

Speaker 3

I think she go further and pretend to be Mignon for him.

Speaker 2

When did you play like a little puppet for him?

Okay puppet?

Speaker 1

I think she thinks that Caddie is fucking Philip to somehow get the role of Mignon.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I think, And that.

Speaker 3

Might be where this is coming from.

Speaker 1

Yeah, oh, you know so much about Giovanni's ghost story.

Did you just like ride Phillip's dick while telling him.

Speaker 2

All about its spreads?

Speaker 3

Braided into Mignol's hair?

Did you dress up like discussed?

Speaker 2

But she is I feel like she is also like like teasing her for believing in it so much or I don't know.

I'm not totally sure what's up with, but she's fucking losing it, Mensieur Philip Hambleton.

That made a dramatic gesture.

Her voice was slurred.

Now you're what you're wrong?

Uneven footsteps carried her to the nearest seat and empty plant set stand next to the mini fridge, and again, now created.

Speaker 3

Are sneakers up above?

Speaker 1

I have put them all in sneakers and her Pepsi branded windbreaker hanging in the clouds.

Speaker 2

Then they have slowly morphed back into medieval characters and then snapped back again with the interest of the entrance of this mini fridge.

Incredible, it's a it's it is Philip's father who makes the money.

He depends upon Papa's good will.

Katerina glanced over.

Are you still and you still right?

Speaker 1

The moneyed what was it?

The moneyed only son?

Speaker 2

What did they call him?

Speaker 1

Spoiled moneyed only son?

The spoiled son only son of a father?

So the spoiled only son of a moneyed father?

Speaker 2

Yes, and you so.

Katerine is like, if he's so, if he's actually poor, and just says daddy's mummy money used to want him, and she goes, I love he?

Oh no, you don't.

It doesn't sound like you do.

What do you know of lava anything?

Katerina sent her a sullen look and tossed on a Sienna tank top to match up her sledge socks and.

Speaker 3

Ankle Bet said she loved him, yeah wow, sent.

Speaker 2

Her a sullen look as she tugged on a Sienna tank top and picked up her slouch socks and ankle boots.

What she meant it.

Speaker 1

You add that that's Katerina sent her a sullen look as she tugged on a Sienna tank top that's the collar and picked up her slouch socks and ankle boots.

Speaker 2

But I love that she's dressed like a fucking like Flash Dance.

Awesome, yeah she no, she has just lets her like the chick from Flash Dance.

I do not need Philips money.

That that went on with pride.

The wine bottle dropped to the floor.

Speaker 3

I'm a thief.

Speaker 2

I'm good.

She's fucking so close to confessing.

No, oh yeah, rolled away.

She tapped her chest with her fist.

Speaker 1

I have my own.

Well, okay, the why are you working triple shifts at the fucking puppet factory?

Speaker 2

And the puppet factory like the old spaghetti factory.

You have this all kitchen and amp flare that they have to wear so much flair and they cover out and they're like this puppet is one of Giovanni's first works.

Would you like a filet mignon?

And they have like a whole like menu that's up it themed?

You like the Mary and Nette noodles.

Speaker 1

And the every table that she has.

Does that thing that I hate the most as a server or tender, which is when you go up and you say hello and you like introduce yourself, and they.

Speaker 3

Just go like diet coke.

Speaker 1

So she comes up to do this whole thing that management makes her to corporate makes her do the bit about mignon and when you like the filet mignon, and they just go die coke.

Speaker 2

Because of course they want as much as because it keeps him so trim.

But but it doesn't keep you trim.

It's not magic.

So then bad that has this like bizarre shift in tone and goes my mother as a peasant Chatterina is like, what the fuck what?

And she just keeps going.

She's fit passion.

Do you believe she is happy to be poor?

I think she is stupid.

Wow, why you just said she's happy?

I also said she was paw.

Do you understand all day she washes other people's dirt, and all night she prays and reads her Bible.

So that pulled out a turkey leg, scowl, nothing else, clowns, no jewels, okay if I'm whare, and then goes on she pleg to just have a turkey.

She pulls a turkey leg out of the fucking air and fucking shoes on a turkey leg.

Speaker 8

While giving this next speech me, I have a dog.

Damn, damn, damn, I am going paces I will die in this Scotch.

Cloudy and I would go after her performance to Wed.

She's just eating this turkey lag while just flying off the handle.

Speaker 2

Cloud Yeah, she was my fland and now she is dead.

And so I go to him and I ask with whom we look now?

So she's like drunkenly gnawing renaissance turkey leg, admitting that she worked with Cloudy at and then Katherine is like, what the fuck is happening?

Wow, she just mowing down a turkey leg that she pulled out of the fucking air, his hat in her hand.

I laughed so fucking hard when I read that she materialized a turkey leg, that.

Speaker 3

Bit pulled out a turkey legs and.

Speaker 1

Pulled a leg.

Speaker 2

And he never comes up.

She just has this turkey leg and starts chewing on it.

And I went back and like reread, and I'm like, wait, was she had did she have like a meal or a basket or something in her hand or did this where did the turkey leg come from?

And and and this time reading it, I noticed the mini fridge, so maybe she got it out of them.

There was just raw turkey sitting out the.

Speaker 1

Oh okay, bending over, yanked, opened the refrigerator door and began rummaging around inside.

Speaker 3

Yeah, my mother is a peasant, so.

Speaker 1

She's screaming this, I think over her shoulder.

Speaker 2

So I read it to you the way that I had originally read it.

My god, I missed the I just wanted to give you The author does describe where the where the thing came from, but I didn't miss it.

I missed it.

So I just wanted to read it to you the way that it happened to me better, where a turkey leg just materialized out of nowhere.

But in full fairness to Jenner Ryan, that is not correct.

She did rummage in the minute, yes, but I fully pictured it.

That's coming out of her broth.

I misreading or just like Skimmy, thank you for that gift.

You're very welcome.

I really wanted to share that with you.

Amazing turkey leg just appeared.

Okay, it's not but so okay.

Also, shockingly, she is now gorging herself on turkey.

Drummy, and I will not not be rich.

I'm a good I'm a good thief.

Claudia and I were the best, and now she's dead, a dangerous thieving ring.

Speaker 1

And he that he never saw our full potential.

And who will I work for now?

Katherine is like, what the are your drunk?

Speaker 2

Psycho?

Where did you get that turkey leg?

Was there a whole turkey leg just in your fucking pocket?

Speaker 3

She had reached into one of the vault.

Speaker 2

A puppet, Raoul.

Speaker 3

Raoul, Raoul is scared that she's gonna he's gonna be found out.

Speaker 2

Yes, a turkey leg, which he gratefully choose to immediately.

Oh, thank god, turkey leg.

Okay, he's not fat that that insisted making an abrupt motion with a half naked drumstick.

She did nothing wrong.

Claudia did not to make mistakes, So you see I must have been the architect of Canada, Raoul, send it.

Wait, no, Caterine say silent at this point, I don't let her keep talking.

Speaker 3

Yep, let's see how long she can go.

Speaker 2

We send it.

Babet continued.

He murdered Cloudia.

He wanted to Besides, who Edison Theater could commit milt?

No one was that a quaver in her voice?

Bad sad Katerina catches on that Bebet is like trying to convince herself that that indeed we have only one suspect.

There couldn't be another suspect.

Speaker 3

Do you think Babet did it?

Speaker 6

No?

Speaker 2

I think that Babet really deep that she's going to be next, knows who did it.

Yeah, and knows the Cloudia got killed to cover up the thieving.

Yeah, and know and thinks that she.

Speaker 1

And no wonder she's freaking out so much because if she makes a single mistake, it'll be her.

Speaker 2

Get rid of her.

Yeah, they have someone already on the run to blame it on.

Yikes.

So so Katerina is like trying to get her to just keep fucking bitch.

I tell you she did nothing wrong.

We worked together.

I know he's worked, Katerina repeated.

Here at the theater now, that's where she sucks up and back is like, oh, how naive are you?

And then realizes like and then and this was actually like genuinely a little scary.

Katerina looked left and saw a face in the doorway, bland features and then part of a brown jacket.

Ian.

He was gone now, but the smell of French cigarette wafted in.

Speaker 1

No, he overheard the whole thing.

Speaker 2

She didn't get a good look at him.

Maybe it was Ian, but we just see, so anyone can smoke French cigarettes.

Speaker 1

So someone over Philip had gone into his office earlier, and when he was doing that whole bit of like drinking his booze, he smoked one of his cigarettes.

Speaker 3

Okay, I don't trust Philip at all.

Speaker 2

No, Philip smoked a French that's right.

Speaker 1

He is.

And Philip, who's known as the spoiled only son of a moneyed father, he doesn't even have his own.

Speaker 2

Wealth, any of his own money.

Maybe Daddy cut him off because he's like, you can't waste your life in a puppet theater, Like you can't, Like, no son of mine is gonna be a fucking puppet theater.

I'm so fuck daddy.

I love Daddy, I love Mignon.

Speaker 3

I just want to prayer and a lie.

Speaker 2

I want to bring it a life in my see Daddy, And you're like, I should not fuck my cousin.

Speaker 3

No, so it's Philip right.

I don't know Philip.

Speaker 2

I just thought that it was an interesting and Philip.

Speaker 3

More evidence, Page eighteen.

Speaker 1

Puppets Philip Gordon Hambleton was one of the company's performance puppeteers and a prime investor in the current production.

Speaker 2

Interesting, so he wanted he wanted the fucking puppet Mignon thing to happen.

Okay, he wanted it bad.

He wanted it real bad.

Speaker 1

Himself is a puppeteer.

I bet his dad is ashamed of him do that.

Speaker 2

How could he not be?

How could he not be?

Speaker 3

His son is a puppeteer.

Speaker 2

Haarras the gayest city in the world.

Speaker 3

Philip is for sure the puppet master.

Speaker 2

So that's why, that's why I wanted to give you that the way it specifically the way that it's written, where we see the face in the doorway Bland features.

So she's just getting a little.

Speaker 1

Bit supposed we're supposed to think it's Ian.

Speaker 2

And then Ian comes in later like there's a little beat and then Ian comes in.

But I'm just like, that wasn't necessarily Ian.

They had plenty of time for Ian to walk up after that.

So I just think it's interesting.

So if ba Bett turns up dead, I think we're supposed to be like, oo, he shut her up because she's a loose end.

But that we don't know who that face was.

For sure.

I just wanted to present it because it's a mystery.

Speaker 1

Katerina's lover is a serial murderer, tear God.

Speaker 2

But she's also a serial murderer.

Speaker 1

Well, I think she's at least killed her husband.

But she might have killed her parents, but they died.

Chose four probably Well, hey, it could happen.

Speaker 2

She could have killed she might have killed yeah, parents to her Luther, Luther.

Speaker 1

She killed Luther.

Speaker 3

She lost Luther and her husband in like the same month.

Speaker 2

And she liked Luth lost it.

Speaker 3

She finally snapped, fled to Paris to be a puppet so.

Speaker 2

Much more violent than it's gonna be.

It's just gonna turn out to be like Pierre or something.

I know, but I know.

And then it also gives Katerina a perfect get out.

Speaker 1

Of jail free card when she chooses wrong.

Speaker 2

Or she chooses Raoul, and then it turns out that he was the puppet master and true love kept her from getting stabbed.

Speaker 4

No, it was Raoul and Katerina is a serial murderer, so they're perfect together.

Speaker 3

She wanted to choose the murder.

Speaker 2

She needs to get her job.

Speaker 3

Oh no, Claudia work in wardrobe.

Speaker 2

Eh, you have failed, but she could have been a dozing I need both of the jobs you work at the puppet theater In twenty four seven, the puppet minds.

The puppet minds back to the mine.

I need to have this all the puppet water.

Uh so then knock, knock, knock, Ian, may I come in?

Ian's polite voice inquired.

There's a whole paragraph of them of Babbett backpedaling after she realizes she said to him mm hmmm.

And then Ian comes in, so he so again, I think there is a slight possibility that it was someone else and that Ian just happens to have arrived.

And then but but Babbett and Katerina are like, oh, it's too convenient.

Ian showing up just as be Bet was running off at the mouth, and she's like, whoa he, I wonder if he's in on it, overheard her.

Speaker 6

And then.

Speaker 2

But she kind of sneaks out and he offers her a ride home.

Ian offers Katerina a ride home, probably to hear her talk some more about what bet Bet was talking about.

The Katerina is like not good bye and.

Speaker 1

Goes and gets a taxi, but then she doesn't want to go home.

Speaker 2

She's like, I just feel I feel so amped up after all these things that have happened, you know, and I want to I want to be around people.

I want to go to a cafe.

I want to like.

I don't want to be alone.

I just want to, like, go and enjoy some humanity.

The Paris knight glowed around her.

Soft breeze is blue.

Off the scene, she thin she caught the scent of lilacs in the air.

In her mind, she saw Raoul's eyes, clear and dark and compelling.

Then she saw Philippe a pale imitation.

Wisdom told her to fall in love with Philip.

He encouraged dreams.

Raoul did not.

She shouldn't love a man wanted for murder.

I don't love him, she told herself firmly.

Katerina's head started to hurt.

She needed to think of something else.

What had Babbet said She and Claudia had worked together, and not just at the theater either.

Then there was the alarm in Bebbet's black eyes when Ian came to the door.

There had been a connection there.

Her mother was a peasant.

Babet had money.

Where did she get it?

Katerina looked up at the night sky.

What a complicated world this was, She sighed.

If I were Mignon, I would have stayed with Giovanni in the vaults forever.

But you aren't Mignon.

Sherry, A familiar voice murmured in her eye, Yes, and forever.

It's a very long.

Speaker 3

Time, isn't that, Sophia.

Speaker 2

No, it's Raul.

She has snuckled out of the vaults.

Speaker 1

I wanted it in.

Speaker 2

I wanted to be disguise what he's in, like crazy disguise, with like wild face, with like facial hair and mustache, and like she can tell his eyes peering out from inside of this like crazy makeup.

Speaker 1

I want the like nineties soap opera movie quality version of this made for TV movie of Papa's.

Speaker 2

He's like, He's like, She's like, fucking what if somebody recognizes you?

And he's like, I don't think they will look at me.

So she's like, oh my god.

He said immediately yeah, he's in like crazy makeup.

And then uh and she's like and she sees his eyes, like his expression come through his eyes, and she's like it is him.

She's like, fully, shit, did you do that yourself?

Speaker 1

Oh my god.

Speaker 2

Then he goes my sister Gina owns a salon.

She says, so she did it or from her.

She says, changed hairs, change appearances.

And he's like and and Katerina just gets obsessed, and she's like, oh, you have a family, huh.

And he's like yeah, and he has like a bunch of siblings and parents and and and all of her parents as dad.

And she has no siblings and her caretakers are dad, and her only friend is dead.

Speaker 3

So she's like, ew, that's a turn off.

Speaker 2

Now She's like, nah, how come you.

Speaker 3

Got all the loved ones and and uh.

Speaker 2

So he's like, hmmm, so you have no family?

Uh none, So no one would miss you.

And aunt and uncle and New Orleans.

Oh they're not Dad, but they don't count.

You don't miss your home in America.

I only missed Luther.

He took care of me when I was little.

He was my friend.

He died a month before I left.

I was married for four years, but my husband died too, in an accident.

He was a musician, you know, a guitarist.

Maybe he was good.

I'm not sure if he really knew how far his talent went.

He did drugs.

Speaker 1

She said that he said he never did drugs.

Also, you skipped this line.

A blast of hot jazz reached her through the day, and then a closer girl, she'd say the story of.

Speaker 3

Her dead husband, and rale just comes.

Speaker 1

A blast of hot jazz.

Speaker 2

Was married and call it jazz because it comes out of my horn and you never know where it's gonna go hot.

I was married for four years, but my husband died too.

David was a musician, hot jazz in the background, you know, a guitarist.

Maybe he was good.

I'm not sure if he really knew how far his talent went.

He did drugs, then he was a fool.

Speaker 3

Ra Will says Jesus.

Speaker 2

No, he was lost searching for something.

I think like Mignon, stop saying that.

So, she says her husband was tortured with indecision and a lack of la minio.

Listen, she's been out of the puppet theater for like twenty minutes.

Speaker 3

Your husband O d Yeah, and we calmed down?

Speaker 2

Can we calm down?

Speaker 1

It's not this is actually serious.

It's not puppet serious like real life serious.

Speaker 2

Puppets are we life?

They are?

Mira, we hold up to a puppet.

Speaker 1

Says someone kill her.

Speaker 2

She she is so deranged with this puppet thing.

It's so funny because she's great.

My husband was just like, I couldn't fucking and then I just picture the slow pan over Tora Woll being like, holy shit, ew she bh my god, she's fucking crazy for puppets.

She's like a Disney adult who fucking works at Disney.

She shed aerial tattooed over her heart and she fucking went.

She moved to Florida so she could work at the in the mines of Disney Disney minds, and she gives tours during the day, performs as a princess as like fion.

Oh no, that's dream work.

She performs as like as as like belling the Beast at night, and she she gives and she sleeps on the ground in the suit.

They have their own sewer system, and she's made a little home down there with all the princess merch, all the preppets, and every time something happens, she's like, this is just like when Ariel Earlsola.

Did you know Ursula was played by an academy of war.

Will not stop fucking talking about goddamn Disney ship.

A dude, HER's a Disney adult.

It's it makes a lot of sense her.

Yeah, it's just like someone who is or like a fan that is just like a Marvel kid who goes to work at Universal Studios, lives in a comic book shop, like anybody who devotes there everything to like a fbipet.

Yeah, and ra Will is realizing, like, oh, dude, I might have gotten in bed with a Craze.

I fucked up.

Yeah, but you know what, She's the only ally I've got, and then she fucking delivers I know something, she said, looking up at him now through her lashes.

An unfair tactic, but she wanted to know everything, the truth, from start to finish.

We could talk like batting her lash.

Yeah, we could talk maybe trade information.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but first I have to go on this date with philipp He's taking me to this Mignon puppet themed restaurant and I will not no.

Speaker 3

You know, it's everything I've ever wanted.

Speaker 2

He's his his smile told her he wasn't deceived.

I'm going to regret this, he murmured, But saying no to you doesn't seem to be possible for me.

He looked left.

Where will we do this?

Trade?

By the river?

You will I want to see her face.

She took his hand and tugged my apartments near here.

We can go there and be safe, safe, as I imagine.

Speaker 3

He's just in drag like really he's in like he's in an old drag like old drag outfit.

Speaker 2

So we've had him try to be sexy, well sick and while in disguise as Albert Einstein now and she's like, oh my god, draped.

Speaker 1

In like velvet robes and he has like a huge elaborate wig and then like a hat on the wig and then crazy drag.

Speaker 2

Man, super roosy cheese, just aste.

She's like, oh my god, come back to my apartment with me, safe again.

His dark eyes smiled at her.

With his fingers, he stroked the curve of her cheek.

No, Katy, I don't think that you will ever be safe when you are with me.

Oh all right, that's it.

Speaker 3

She does have a date with Philip, though it's going back to her.

Speaker 2

We're gonna go Blay Mignon and he's little in the in Giovanni the Diddler.

Speaker 3

Hmm okay, all right, well that was a lot.

Speaker 2

So she takes home this guy in full giche and she's like Oh my god, I can't bear to not see your fucking hot meeting for another second.

Speaker 1

I hope we get just an Absolutely, his disgusting makeup is like falling off.

Speaker 2

His weird caterpillar eyebrows pushing off.

Speaker 1

I want a sex scene in Crancy, in detail, every sight, sound, and smell.

Speaker 2

Not pubic hair.

I want to I want to feel the pubic hair stuck between my fucking back Moler.

Yeah, yeah, okay, we will not get that.

There is almost no way we will have anything that ground.

Speaker 1

We've been worn.

Speaker 2

Shall we insert one in our Let's just like, imagine what would this book be like if it did have if it if it craned just once.

Speaker 1

They get the one, bumb bud.

Speaker 2

He leaned down and bitter on the glitters, like, we get one.

Speaker 3

It's like, okay, it's a harlequin romance making and it's just.

Speaker 1

The most sick pray.

Speaker 2

He ships on her chest and she's like.

Speaker 3

Yeah, they can never hook up on camera again.

So there's just one in the middle.

Speaker 2

He says on her side.

Speaker 3

She's like, yeahs his drag makeup.

Speaker 2

We get one.

We only get one.

Make it count there.

Oh my god, she's a monster.

No she's great, she's great, she's where.

She's a little eerily obsessed with this puppet legend.

Speaker 1

I'm still not letting go of the fact that she well, not the fact the possibility that she killed her.

Speaker 2

I really think that she is sort of a brownie for I think that she's a little bit she's a little bit of a fangirl for for for puppets, you know what.

I like to imagine that the actual puppet performance has them being just jerked around on their marionette, like like the hand gone wrong.

Shit, I need it, No, I need it.

The episode's running along anyway, No, it's not.

Speaker 1

There's editing.

Who could resist watching human puppets act out a tragic love story that had supposedly taken place in this very building six full centuries ago, or listening to the ghost story of Giovanni Varoni, who was still said to roam the dark passages beneath the theater.

Speaker 2

That's one sentence.

Should we just put that whole thing a shirt?

Please?

Please?

Look?

Speaker 1

Actually?

Speaker 2

Actually yes?

Please?

Speaker 1

Yes, oh my god, yes.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the whole thing, the whole whole thing.

I lost interest.

Speaker 3

It's just a white shirt with it in black or black shirt with it in white.

Speaker 2

There's no other options, no embellished, maybe a puppet on the back.

Speaker 1

Fucking, oh my god, fucking, oh my god.

Speaker 2

I lost interest so quickly.

Who could resist a thing that sucks and sounds dumb?

It bar so it keeps going.

It's like, Noah, you everything you add to this makes it more niche You're already answered.

Speaker 1

I had written what on top of that pete.

Speaker 2

It's like you're already into like points zero zero one percent of the population by the time you get to the third layer of puppet tree to person to.

Speaker 1

Puppet to love story, back ghost story to god, not even out of this page, so that we never lose that again.

Speaker 2

Oh fuck, Well, we're getting a T shirts with it written on it, and.

Speaker 1

You can resist a T shirt with the line from Passages Puppets about human puppets that are also playing puppets and humans.

Speaker 2

I'm telling this story about the guy that had a little puppet girl.

Try.

Speaker 1

Okay, Well, we'll get the next clumpus in this mystery when we return next week four chapters nine and ten.

Thank you for listening to Passages.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

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Speaker 3

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