Episode Transcript
M hey everyone, it is the seeing the training cran scene and you are listening to eyes up here.
Speaker 2With cran scene.
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Speaker 3Oh I got on you got them birds.
Speaker 2Birds one another one today?
Speaker 3Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2Filming this on a Sunday.
Every time I watched the Eagles, especially this season, I have had ojeda because it's never like we're gonna win by a million points.
It's always down to the wire, you know what I mean.
Yeah, they're always making me sit on the edge of my seat while we pulled it off.
So we're five and two and it's a good game.
It's a really really good game.
So I'm very happy right now.
I feel good.
Speaker 3Nice.
That's a good feeling for the football fan.
The team wins sets the pace for their next couple of days.
Speaker 2I liked it.
Yeah, so I'm in a good mood.
How about you.
Did you have a good weekend?
Speaker 3Oh it's been a crazy weekend.
Let's see two four.
I've had six softball games in three days, so really, really really really tired of a softball field just about now.
I actually felt the most dirty today of any day I've ever played, because there was just wind blowing dirt at us and it was just incredible how much I was like it was where we were fighting and getting the dirt in your mouth.
It was nasty.
But yeah, six games in the last three days, and man it is it has been a journey, to say the least.
Speaker 2But I'm sure and the weather's been beautiful, so at least you have a good weather to play in.
But when do you stop, Like, how much longer do you.
Speaker 3So we got about i'd say a week or so of the regular season and then one or so extended weeks into November, so you know, getting down the home stretch.
Fall ball is interesting because you know, again, like I said, it's beautiful weather right now, but it can be cold and it could be miserable.
Luckily no rain, knock on wood.
But yeah, about I'd say about two weeks left and then look, do have winter workouts, We do have some like winter tournaments indoors, so it's not done yet.
But like the every day, three four times a week that is coming to a close in the next two.
Speaker 2Weeks, gotcha, gotcha?
Well, you need a much needed break because every time I talked to you, You're like, oh, I'm going here.
Oh I'm doing this, I'm doing that.
Speaker 3So I have been all over the northern part of Virginia in the last three days.
I mean like three different counties, you know, like all different So if it's yes, six different teams, I mean, it's just crazy.
It keeps on going.
But hey, we're trying to get that next generation ready.
Speaker 2To you know, they say Virginia is for lovers, but I say Virginia is for softball.
Speaker 3Yeah, no, got gab.
We got great programs there.
Speaker 2You go.
All right, Well, you know I was able to and I know you did as well.
I was able to watch Tenn's Bound for Glory.
I was away on vacation with my family, but as soon as I got back, I watched it.
It took me two days.
It was a long one.
Speaker 3It's like four hours.
This took a while.
Speaker 2Well it's a bit, it's the big one, you know what I mean.
Yeah, but let me let me just start by saying how great that building was.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2I loved the way it looked, just the way uh you know, the seating was arranged.
I love the entrance way.
I think they are improving every every pay per view.
It just keeps getting better and better.
I don't know if that's a w w E thing.
I don't know if it's an anthem thing, but all I know is I like it, and they are just looking more and more professional every time I watch them.
Speaker 3Yeah, I agree, And I said this going back to the whatever first show, we started really digging into them.
You see the influence, and it's it's gaining heavy, heavy momentum each show we watch.
This one I thought was for the positive because you reflect it in the audience.
Yeah, a crowd in a high building, and it just it had a great feel to it.
So there's yeah from a from that point of view, I mean, right out of the gate, it was solid.
Speaker 2Yeah.
And and you know, i'll give my overall grade at the end, but man, did I like this show.
I really really enjoyed it, you know.
And we'll go over the matches, but I can't stay.
There was like one match that I thought was the complete shits, and I usually think there is one on every card.
I didn't think anything was bad on here.
Yeah, you know, every everything was good.
I didn't watch the pre show.
I'm notauris for not watching the countdown show, but I think it was just the not the Outs World Tag Team Championship match.
And then they had the Mickey James and the Beautiful People be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
So I didn't watch that part I started.
Speaker 3Which I'm sorry interrupt.
If you wanted to really see what the building looked like, just wait till they panned the crowd and you'll see exactly what seat thirteen C looks like because for whatever reason, the director called for crowd shots when there was nobody in the building.
Yet they showed you everything in the kitchen sink, they showed you where the peanut guy was going to be setting up during the show.
That that was one not so strong point of the night in my opinion, on the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 2Yeah, did you watch it or did you just like see pictures and stuff?
Speaker 3I saw the Oh, I watched parts of the Hall of Fame inductions, so I did not watch the match on the pre show, but I watched the Hall of Fame induction of the Beautiful People, and I did not get a chance to watch the Mickey James Hall of Fame induction yet.
But yeah, the crowd shots and the beautiful people induction.
I was just like, well, maybe we should have gone a little tighter.
Okay, on who was in the building versus the whole spectrum of the audience.
Speaker 2I agree it.
You never want to see empty seats in an arena, you know what I mean that some of the shots on there.
Uh and and again granted it was before the pay per view actually started, but the wide shots were hard to look at, you know, but uh, let's see, Yeah it says it says right here.
The whole thing began at six o'clock and then Bounce for Glory begins at seven.
So with that, I'm sure people were just walking in at this point.
Not everybody had their seat for that, but regardless, we had a bunch of matches in the car.
What was the first match?
Read off?
Speaker 3Yeah, let's start.
Let me get and pull everything up here.
Okay, on sick, We've got The first match on the card was Steve Macklin and Frankie Kazeria.
Speaker 2Okay.
I sat next to Steve Macklin at Russell Khan in Newark, the first time I ever met him.
Nice guy, good luck to him.
Really nice Deanna?
Uh, how do you say her name?
Brazo.
Yeah, she's cute.
I like her a lot.
That's her husband.
I love Frankie.
Speaker 3Uh.
Speaker 2Frankie is uh, you know, a vet in this business.
He's been around forever and let me just say, Frankie can still go.
I was so impressed with this match.
This was such a great, great match, Steve going over and the title changed hands, which I thought was great.
I didn't know how much of Frankie Cazarian we were going to see in this show, because it was a lot it.
Frankie has so much heat and he is such a great worker.
I just enjoyed this match a lot.
I really did.
I thought it was great.
Speaker 3Yeah, I agree.
The one thing that was great was the callbacks to how AJ Styles gave the tribute to Frankie Kazarian in his match against John Cena.
Well, Frankie Gazarian gave the tribute back to AJ Styles in this match.
Speaker 2So one of my favorite parts of this match was Steve's mom was in the audience and Frankie and her were doing the jawjacking and I was hoping that she would smack him, but again she just gives him the double finger.
And at the end, when Steve wins, he puts the belt on his mob and they both give the finger to the cads.
Like, yes, it was cute.
It was really really cute.
So I enjoyed it immensely.
It was really fun.
Yeah, I would give that match a solid B plus, solid B plus.
Yeah, I thought it was great.
Next match it was Ga Miller versus.
Now.
If you're not out of the TNA bubble and if you're not familiar with like indies and stuff, many people might not have known that Gia is a Strean's professional wrestler.
You know, you only see her in her interviewing role in TNA.
If you follow her on socials, you'll know, because she's still very active on the indies.
But this was fun to watch because her character came out in this dark uh kind of like I don't want to say gothic, but kind of like just dark.
It was just a very yeah maybe so she looked fantastic.
I think she she looked like a million bucks.
You know, Tessa always looks good.
Obviously, she came out with Victoria Crawford like she always does, and I thought this match was pretty entertaining.
I think Gia could do a lot more and I think maybe they were playing it down a little bit because she's supposed to be an interviewer.
Yes, but in the prelude they talked about like Tessa talked about her training under some job or guy, so it's known now that she does have a wrestling background.
I just I wish they could have did a little more in the match, But for what it was worth, I think it extends the storyline, and I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 3Yeah, No, this was one of my favorites of the show.
I actually really enjoyed this, Okay.
And it was George South that she was trained by.
Speaker 2No, she I believe Tessa was dreamed by George and then she didn't she have to go to somebody else.
Wasn't that the whole catch?
Oh?
Speaker 3Is that what it was?
Okay?
Maybe then I got it confused.
Speaker 2I might be wrong, but that's okay.
Speaker 3But sova with Gea.
So that was my criticism when we originally saw this angle start, was that they were treating it like she had been murdered and that she couldn't take a bump and that she couldn't take a punch.
But she stayed competitive and it was a good match.
And yeah, she is a wrestler, So I didn't understand why they were making it like it was this dastardly, horrible attack on this interviewer when you know, and at this point in the game, we know who's a wrestler and who's not.
So I hated that in the beginning part of this angle, but I love the way it was executed on the show.
I think it was.
It was done very well.
So this was one of the matches I actually enjoyed the most.
Speaker 2Okay, so excuse me.
Tessa was trained by George South.
The job or was supposed to be a guy named Mike jack Oh action Mike Jackson.
So yeah, so that that's what it was.
Don't come for me, people, I corrected myself.
Speaker 3Yes, she corrected herself.
Speaker 2And actually you were the one that was wrong.
Speaker 3Not me, you true, Yeah, it was me.
Sorry, I got who was training?
Who is George South?
George South was quick, quick on the quick on the trigger.
Speaker 2That was the promo.
Now, whatever happens in real life happens.
But yeah, I liked it.
Again.
I hope, I hope that's not the end of it.
I hope this kind of continues, and I hope Gia, like I just want to see more from her because in my mind, is Gia going to be a knockout now?
And maybe Gabby takes over Gia's place because they had Gabby doing some interviewing as well.
Speaker 3Yeah, well she was introduced though as backstage interviewer.
G she was, so that tells me she's still backstage interviewer.
Speaker 2But if this you continue, she's going to come out again and rustle, So quite possibly we might see more of her as ankout.
Speaker 3Possibly, and I would like because I loved Jaya.
Speaker 2She's a doll baby.
So yeah, I enjoyed that match.
I thought it was really really fun and I want to see where where it goes.
Of course, So anyway, Tessa defeats Jaya.
Of course, I I kind of knew that was going to happen.
Speaker 3This next match my most hated one on the show.
Speaker 2Now, this is one of my most favorites.
Speaker 3I can't stand Gauntlet.
Hate it for reasons.
Speaker 2First of all, Okay, so it's money in.
Speaker 3The bank, right with a royal rumble style like aspect to it.
Speaker 2Kind of sort of yeah, they're they're they had to make it different in a way, right, Well, tell me what you hated about it.
Speaker 3I don't like so, I don't like the the the mix.
I don't like the mix.
I don't like the mix.
I don't like the competitors.
Speaker 2And it's you don't like any of the competitors.
Speaker 3I don't like some of them.
No, I don't like some of them in here.
I don't feel like some I think some being in here lowers their value.
Speaker 2Here we go again, and that.
Speaker 3They should not be in here with some of these other Jabbroni guys on the roster.
Speaker 2Okay, so Nick ne if Nick neath doesn't have a place on the card because he's not in a big angle right now or whatever.
Speaker 3Why why how do you not find anything for him?
Speaker 2What was the finish of this match?
I understand that you don't understand that.
You don't understand that because you're saying he has no place in here.
They put him over this matter to get it.
Speaker 3But how did before this, I know he's been in a tag team with his brother.
Speaker 2Brother they're doing the angle.
Speaker 3How in God's name was there just nothing ever for this guy as a singles.
Speaker 2There's nothing right now for somebody who has named value?
Do you just leave them off the card completely?
Speaker 3You would probably would you would.
Speaker 2Rather see somebody just sit in the back and do absolutely nothing than be in a match, like a gimmick match like this.
Speaker 3Well, somebody sat in the back wall.
A YouTuber got their spots.
So somebody did sit in the back last night that show.
Speaker 2Who was it?
Speaker 3I don't know.
I'm sure somebody in the TNA.
Speaker 2Ros You're being ridiculous.
Answer my question.
Speaker 3Somebody in the TNA roster probably didn't get booked for by.
Speaker 2There's no proof that that happened.
Number one, number two, answer my question.
Sure, Nick Nammath is my pencil.
Yes, he doesn't have a spot.
Right, there's this match going on.
Would you rather him sit in the back or would you rather him do this and get put over and then advance of course storyline with Frank.
Speaker 3Yes, of course, because if he's in the match, he has to win it.
Speaker 2Well he did, so what is your gripe?
Speaker 3My gripe is just that he's in the match and had nothing.
Speaker 2So if he's not in the match, he's not on the court.
Speaker 3I get that.
I get it.
Speaker 2You don't get it.
Speaker 3I do.
Speaker 2You're dogging all over the place, You're you're poop pooing as you say, do do poo poo taking a big dump on this match, And I enjoyed this match.
I thought it was fun.
I do feel the girls had an unfair advantage in this particular situation, unless you're like a Jordan Grace or a China or somebody who's built bigger, you know what I mean.
Yeah, like I do I feel that.
But I was happy that every girl that entered got the spotlight and they shined, which was great.
You have to admit that.
Speaker 3Oh, absolutely, yeah, No, I just don't love the mix of it.
I just they should have their own gauntlet, they should have their own things.
Yeah, they got enough, they should just have their own.
Speaker 2And then it would have been four and a half hours, and then they would have complained more.
Speaker 3That I advocate.
I mean, look, their tag titles match still couldn't get on the main show in a row, so I advocate for them to have their own match on the show, doing the same exact thing.
But again, I just find it's so weird that guys like they can't find something for Matt Cardona, Like they can't find anything for him.
Speaker 2Is he even signed with the company.
Speaker 3I don't know.
I don't know that, but it's just these guys that have these big names and these I just when they get put into these matches, these plunder matches, it's I just think it just it sucks.
And then you get the ten million comedy spots and I know there's a place for that on this card, but it just there's two many of them.
Two and again the YouTuber and then Santino.
So where where do we have to be in the comedy spot?
Was it with the YouTuber guy or was it with the Santino thing.
Speaker 2Santino announced at the end announcing two winners got one of the loudest booze of the evening.
The fans did not like this finish, so they're like you, they were, they were unimpress.
Speaker 3Those are two guys I would hey, I would have picked the same two guys as the as the winners if I could.
Speaker 2Okay, well, I thought it was entertaining.
I'm not going to say it was the best thing on the card, but I enjoyed myself watching it.
I'm not going to do doo on it or poo poo or whatever, because I found it to be entertaining and I want to be entertained and I want to see a lot of my faves in that match rather than not see them at all.
So I liked it.
Speaker 3This is just a quick sidebar and this is nothing about TNA.
Have you seen the AI wrestling clips on TikTok or Instagram?
They get shared to Twitter too, Like have you seen these at all?
Where it's like Abraham Lincoln fighting like Martin Luther King.
Oh my god, Okay, that's kind of like, you know what these Gauntlet matches feel, just like the randomness of them just there.
So, yeah, you haven't seen any of those?
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 3I watched one the other day.
It was so it was Helen Keller versus and Frank Oh dear god.
It was so ridiculous.
Speaker 2Yes, that's sad.
No, I don't want to see that crap.
Speaker 3Gaid it was ridiculous.
I didn't say it was quality.
Speaker 2Let's go to the next match.
We had a TNA Knockouts Championship match, Indie Heartwell versus Annie Jordan.
I met Kelannie, very sweet girl, might I add?
I thought this one was good.
There's something and I don't know.
I think Indy Hartwell's very very good worker, but there was something that was off in this match for me.
I saw her taking a lot of stutter steps.
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3Okay, explain.
Speaker 2Running the ropes but then stopping short and then stuttering up to where she's supposed to be.
I saw that done a bunch of times by her.
It wasn't as fluent as I've seen her work before.
I don't It wasn't that it was bad.
It was just like slower than usual for me.
And maybe I'm completely off, and maybe I have to watch the match again, but I just remember watching this saying to myself, Oh, she looked like she was thinking about the spot and she stopped and then she kept going, or you know what I mean.
Like it was it was very very strange.
I don't know.
But the spots that they did were wonderful.
I think both girls are really really talented, and I think they worked well.
I just I don't know.
There were a couple times I just felt like it was it was off a little bit.
Speaker 3I could see what you're saying.
Speaker 2I don't know, and there might be people who think I'm horrible for saying that.
I don't know.
Speaker 3I just but see.
That's what takes me out of a lot of the matches is because I see that a lot, because it looks like there's always some shutter steps before a lot of the moves that either they seem to rehearse and they're anticipating them.
Speaker 2Well, that's it.
She like it looked like she was thinking, and she stopped to think, and then she kept going, I don't and I'm not shitting on her.
I think I think she's wonderful.
I really do.
I'm a fan of hers.
I think she's got a great look.
They're they're both beautiful girls.
I just noticed there was stop and go during this match.
Yeah, it wasn't the whole match, just a couple of times, but they swearved me because I'm like, oh, there's no way they're going to keep this title on an NXT girl.
And they did.
And so Jordan defeated Harwell and she retained the title, and I guess we're going to see more of her in TNA.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, we didn't say that it was interpromotional NXT, you know, another one of these deals.
So you know, now the NXT girl has the belt.
So yeahs as it continues, I guess you know, the war, the war wages on.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean usually they'll give it back to them on the big pay per view and that's where they swerved me.
I was shocked when she got the pin.
So I thought it was a good match, Don't get me wrong, I just there.
There were a couple of spots that I was just like, ugh, what's happening?
You know what I mean?
But overall very entertaining.
And you had our family that they said came in from uh was it Australia.
Yeah, so that was nice to see.
It's always nice to see them being represented by family and friends.
So that was nice to see in the crowd.
So I thought it was it was good.
I thought the fans were kind of dead in a lot of spots though, Yeah, and that's that's terrible because they're you know, you're working so hard out there and without again I'm going to bring back the managers, without people on the outside trying to you know, doing something like that, or trying to get the crowd into it, You're just it's you and your opponent, and it's it's hard to keep them into do it, or to bring them into it.
You have to do like a super big spot to even get ooh or or.
So I felt bad for them at one point because you could hear a pin drop right.
I was just like, damn, you know, the match is better than that.
So I don't know.
I thought this match was the least crowd participation in the paper.
Speaker 3Well, I mean, and it was coming off the big plunder match, so well, they had a lot taken out of them in that that last match, so I mean, maybe that could be could.
Speaker 2Yeah.
I just I felt bad for the girls because I I know, when you you know, when you lose a crowd, it's hard to bring them back sometimes.
But they did.
They you know, doing one big spot will will help.
But it was just it was kind of like dead during most of the match.
I don't know.
Anyway, it was solid.
I enjoy it and they worked hard, so I liked it.
This This next match is up there for my favorite.
This next match.
This is what a W should have did with the thumbtacks.
This is exactly what I said when we reviewed the thumb tacks with MJF and I have to cough hold on me.
Speaker 3Thumbtacks, thumb tack, thum thumb tacks of doom.
Speaker 2I am going I'm gonna put Alicia over.
That spot was brutal.
She's such a tiny little thing, and she can go and she's hardcore and she took it like a champ.
But when she brought out the little bag of thumbtacks, it was just in one corner of the ring.
And that's what I said before, When you put them all over the place, it doesn't mean anything.
Having them in that one corner it was.
It was perfect.
And kudos to her for taking that spot because I'm sure a lot of girls wouldn't of But it was hardcore war.
It was ordered for versus the system.
And again I said, I don't like the system as baby faces, but here it worked because I mean, you have a listen, a listen, you have Lis Lish and her husband.
They're from Boston, Eddie Edwards, he comes out in a Boston Celtics gimmick.
You know, every everything's Boston to them.
So this they were baby faces to the umpteenth extreme.
I still like them as heels.
I don't know.
I even told Dreamer when I saw them, I was like, turning back as heels please.
I like the system.
Speaker 3They all had the Celtics gear, they all had the I.
Speaker 2Know, but Eddie was the first one to come out.
Yeah, so you know, and he's hometown Boston, you know what I mean.
And they were in Boston and that's why they all had the gear on.
But that him and List are from Boston, so.
Speaker 3It was they were in Plymouth, you know.
Is that the outskirts of bostonkirts.
Speaker 2Yes, there you go.
But yeah, this was so entertaining to me.
Lots of great spots back and forth and the system went over on order for so I thought it was fun.
I liked it again the way they they did the uh it was kind of again like Royal rumble.
Every I don't know how what what the timeframe was.
There's Alicia.
Look at it.
Look at her back.
Speaker 3You remember you talked about your poke.
Speaker 2I talked about one in my calm and I wanted to die this poor eighty seven of them in her back.
Speaker 3Look at that.
Look at that.
That's at least twenty right here.
Speaker 2That's a great spot.
Yeah.
Now, in ECW, they never asked me to do that, but if they did, I would have did it, and I probably would have regretted it after I hit the mat.
Speaker 3But like you said, if you look at the corner picture there as they are.
Speaker 2In this one right in the corner, right here.
Speaker 3Yeah, so that guy with the broom afterwards could just go sweet sweep.
Speaker 2That's it.
Yep, kudos to her.
It was great.
The girls did great.
I thought everybody did great in this match.
I love this match.
It kept me on my toes.
I I really really enjoyed it, you know, so I thought it was good.
Speaker 3But okay, all right, So back to the thumb tacks though.
Okay, so you know, look AW obviously, look they've got the vets, They've got the people who've used thumb tacks many, many, many many times in the past.
So let's go on the TNA side.
Alicia's a vet dreamer has used the thumb tacks many many times.
Is he going to be the guy who tells him stick to one side of the ring versus maybe somebody at AW telling them, Hell though, just override it and throw them all over the place.
Well, here, I want to see blood.
Speaker 2Here's the difference.
Though the AW match only had two competitors, this one, there were people all over the place.
Speaker 3True, that's a good point.
Speaker 2So you don't want everybody having to bump and thumb text.
Plus this was towards the latter part of the match.
Speaker 3So but your agent would be the one who would tell you where to put.
Speaker 2It right, Well, I mean he could, but the wrestlers have a lot of saying what goes as well.
So I mean the agent could X nay something and say no, we don't want that done there, or you can't use that or blah blah blah, and then you either listen to your agent or you go over the agent's head and you go and ask, uh, let's say, a Tony Kahan, or who's the guy Carlos what's.
Speaker 3His heart Carlos Silva Silva or.
Speaker 2A few minutes triple h or somebody, you know what I mean.
So yeah, there there's a different scenario though between these two matches.
But I will still stick to my guns and say it's more effective just in the corner because you can also tease it.
You can't.
You can also like you know, move to that spot and tease something because it's just in one section, and then you can work all around the rest of the ring, right And then when you finally hit it, you get that huge pop because everybody's waiting for you to hit the thumb tacks.
But when they're all over the place, every bump you take, you're gonna get a phone tack in you.
I'd rather just wait for the huge spot and keep teasing teas and teas and the build it up.
I don't know, call me dumb, but that's the way I will huh.
Speaker 3I will not call you dumb.
I will call the booking of this next match dumb.
Speaker 2Well what did you what did you think about this one?
Did you like?
Oh?
Speaker 3I thought, yeah, this was fine what it was?
This was perfectly fine.
Yeah that's what it was.
Okay, Yeah, it was a hardcore war.
Speaker 1It was.
Speaker 2It was all everybody got to bring one weapon.
I thought it was great.
It's a good time.
Speaker 3Yeah, I thought this was this is this was what it was.
Everybody got their stuff.
Speaker 2In the next match TNAX Division Championship Match, Davon Evans versus Leon Slater.
Both of these guys twenty one years old.
They look like they're seven to four, especially the the one, uh Javon Evans.
He looks like he's just eight feet tall.
He's like tall, he's so big.
Let me tell you and before you shop on this, because I know you're on it, No I'm not.
Speaker 3I'm not going to sho on it.
Speaker 2Okay.
I thought the athleticism in this match was by far the best thing on the card.
I loved it.
I liked the prior one more just because maybe because I knew people that were in it, and I like the story that was being told this one.
For me, I don't know how much of a build up this had.
I know it was like the Teams tea.
Speaker 3It was just it was building off, right, That's what I just said.
Speaker 2That NXT showdown they had on October seventh, blah blah blah.
I understand all that, but I never saw these two work.
And and I gushed over Leon Slater the last time we covered the pay per view.
I think he is going to be a rising star.
Well guess what.
Both of them are exquisite.
They had me sitting on my chair like what what just happened?
What was that?
What was that mean?
Every single time they did something, I was just blown away.
So freaking good, so good together.
It's like it's like they're a car kind of like a carbon copy of each other because they work very similar.
So being in two separate promotions, I guess is a good thing, you know, because they're not competing, They're they're not always competing against each other.
It's kind of hard when you're trying to develop a character and there's somebody else that kind of looks like you and does the same stuff as you, you know what I mean.
So I'm glad they're in separate promotions, but my guy, both of them are going to be huge stars.
The only thing that would stop them is maybe developing an attitude or or pissing off the wrong person because they have this to a t at such a young age.
And I know in the in the prelude they said that the one Leon they and he's been wrestling since age nine, which I was just like nine.
Wow, you know, so if you add that up, that's quite a few years under his belt.
But he's still so twenty one years old.
He's got thirty forty years ahead of him if he wants it.
And the same It just goes for both of them.
They are super duper talented.
So good.
I thought this was just so freaking good.
Speaker 3Yeah, now that was awesome, very exciting.
Javan Evans six foot one, six foot.
Speaker 2One, He looks like he's seven feet tall.
Speaker 3One hundred and ninety five pounds.
Speaker 2Wow, well he appears larger than life for some reason.
Speaker 3Oh, I agree, No, he definitely.
He looked so.
Speaker 2Much totterer than six to one.
My husband's six three and a half, and I would have thought he towered my husband.
Speaker 3Maybe it's just because he's so thin.
Speaker 2He's slender, very slender.
He's a slender, very slender.
But they were doing spots, isn't it.
Didn't they do a spot where he did a cutter in the air on to the ring apron?
Speaker 3Yeah, I don't amazing.
Those are scary, terrifying.
Speaker 2But my god, that was amazing looking.
Speaker 3Yeah, so good.
What I don't like about this is somebody like, why book this match?
If you're going to book to a draw and then have that lame of the dark state.
I have to say, I said, this is one of the worst factions that ever has been put together.
They are just they are they they They're just not good.
And I feel bad for these two guys that they got booked against each other and had to have that finish because they they found their way out of somebody having to lose, right, And if you were going to put them in a in a I know, bound for Glorio's t and A's big show, but to me, too quick to put them together.
Should have waited a little bit longer until they seasoned themselves a little bit more, their character, a little bit more, their their their, their reputation.
Then to put them together, I think the whole dark State thing kind of soured what was a great match.
I just felt that you put these two guys together, meaning somebody should have had to have lost, and then you kind of booked yourself with the draw, kind of like scapegoat booking.
I didn't love that, so I would have not put this match on this show.
Speaker 2Well, they but all of that aside.
They worked so well.
Speaker 3Oh absolutely, yeah, they really did.
Speaker 2And to me, it wasn't like like a spot fest.
It didn't come off like like that usual spot fest where everybody has to do spot spot spot.
It was more smooth to me, the way they played with each other, the way he went up and tapped and like laughed and you know what I mean.
It wasn't just like get your shit in done, get your shit in done.
No, it was gluing and it just I can't explain it the way I want to explain it.
That's in my brain.
I'm getting.
It just was more fluid.
It wasn't a spot monkey fest.
To me, But there were some spots and man were they good.
So I loved it, and I'm looking forward to seeing more from both of them in the future because I'm telling you, the only thing that's going to mess them up is if they get an attitude.
They are super talented, so good.
So that was fun.
That was a lot of fun to watch.
This next one.
Speaker 3I can I stop you for one second.
There's an article that was from a couple of days ago that said WWE had a significant say in the booking direction for the Javon Evans versus Leon Slater match.
Speaker 2They don't want them to lose.
Speaker 3So what does that tell you about what I lose?
Speaker 2They didn't want him to lose.
TNA didn't want to put another belt on an m XT superstar, So what do you do?
You have to do a draw or a count out or whatever you're gonna do, you know what I mean?
Like, you can't you can't switch the belt, not another one?
Speaker 3Come on, now, that's funny.
Speaker 2What are you gonna do?
That's okay?
This next match was something that you and I were looking forward to seeing, and it made me sad.
It made me really sad watching this.
It was the Heartys versus the Dudley Boys or Team three D one more table.
It was titled Man, I don't know if it's because I know these guys and I know the Dudley's very very well.
They are both close friends of mine.
I love them dearly.
But this made me emotional, it really did.
And the spot that got me.
And you don't see a lot of empathy in wrestling because it's usually heal and babyface.
This this was a babyface versus babyface match.
You don't really see a lot of empathy.
But when Devon was put through the table and he was out early, and then Bubba's going and Bubba's going and Bubba's going and Bubba goes through that table that was slaanted.
He's getting up and he's getting he's taking shit and he's getting up and he's taking forever to get up.
He looks broken and you look at his face and look, I know you're selling.
Maybe he wasn't selling so much.
Maybe it did hurt a little bit, you know, but joking aside, The hardies are holding the chairs and maybe they were planning the crescendo or something.
I don't know, but when they look at this man, and they drop the chairs and Bubba looks at them and just does a little nod like it's time.
Oh.
That made me so upset.
It was like he just gave up.
And I know it's wrestling, and I know it's scripted, but Bubba has always been as bad ass mother Trucker, doesn't take any shit from anyone.
And his last thing that I see is him being surrounded by the hearties and telling them it's time.
Yeah, and that that hurt the heart a little bit, maybe sad, you know, yeah, I don't know.
Man, they had a hell of a run, don't get me wrong, and we all age and our bodies give out, and you know it's time to hang up the boots, I get it.
I just seeing him like he it was such a vulnerable version of Bubba that you normally do not see when he's performing.
He's always been this rough and you know, rough and ready dude who will beat anybody's ass, and he just looked broken down and it just made me really upset.
I don't know.
Speaker 3Yeah, it was epic, it was.
It was very cool.
And then at the end, handing over the boots.
Speaker 2Boots, yeah, like passing them on and you know what's funny.
I had dinner one night, Bubba and I had dinner together and Matt was walking by, and Matt Hardy and he said, oh, can I take a seat, And we're like, oh yeah, and so he ended up eating dinner with us.
And I don't know why, but for some reason, Matt always appeared way younger to me.
And we were discussing something and I said to him, oh, please, were he a forty?
And he looked at me and he goes, oh my god.
He goes, I love you so much.
And I go what And he goes, I'm gonna be fifty what wait a minute?
And I said, I'm fifty three or whatever.
I was at the fifty two at the time.
I said, why did I think you were always so much younger than me?
He goes, I don't know, but I love it.
It's just like, you know, so it's like you're looking You're looking at Bubba and Devon, who are you know, mid fifties or whatever.
But the Hardy boys are not that far behind age wise.
No, you know, it's not like they're passing the torch to the youngins.
R Hardy's been around for a really long time too.
Yeah.
Speaker 3I mean, look, they took off in ninety nine.
I mean, and they had been around you know, the WWE since ninety five ninety four, right, so yeah, and Jeff was twenty getting beat up in matches.
Speaker 2I mean, I just don't know.
I don't know why.
I always thought that Matt and well, if Matt was younger, I thought Jeff was way younger.
But I guess not.
So I don't know.
This this ending was bittersweet for me.
I in one way I liked it, but in another way, I would have liked Bubba the going out fighting and then been maybe uh more endearing towards the end when he lost.
After he lost, I don't know, seeing him not put up a fight was just weird.
Speaker 3I get what you're saying.
Speaker 2I guess, yeah, it wasn't.
It wasn't like a Bubba thing to do.
Bubba always was a fighter in the ring.
So I don't know.
It just got me as a fan.
It got me, and again maybe because it's personal because I know them so well, but I was just like, oh, I just feel sad now.
Speaker 3And with Divon too, I mean I never thought Divon would step in the ring ever again, Yeah, you know, and watching the What I loved was in this build up when they did the promo.
I think I don't know if it was last week's Impact or two weeks ago when the Dudleys were dressed all in black, sorry Team three D, when they were dressed all in black and you know they were doing their final you know, jaw jacking for the match to build up.
Man, I was like, they're such badasses and like, I completely forgot Devon was just retired and told us on the show here like all the hell he had been through.
And I'm like, man, thinking like going to that match, I'm like, how's Devon even gonna get through all this?
Speaker 2That was the hook.
It's like, what are these guys gonna do?
Obviously, you work towards your strengths and you hide your weaknesses, right, so you go over what you can and can't do.
But I'm thinking to myself, Okay, they're definitely doing the what's up because that's easy to do three D.
They're gonna have to do that, But like, what else are they going to bump all around the arena?
Is this going to be a street fight?
Like what's gonna happen?
So I think the fans left happy with that one.
But for me, I don't know, I just didn't.
I didn't like the way Bubba just gave up, because in reality, I don't think Bubba would give up, So it was kind of it was kind of hard to watch.
But again, you know, you knew what was coming.
You knew they weren't going to switch the belts to the dudies.
Speaker 3You know, I mean those NXT tag titles too on the line.
Speaker 2Yeah, but I don't know for what it was worth.
I'm glad I watched it, and they had a hell of a career.
I'm super proud of both of them.
I love both of them, and they both got stuff going on and they're gonna be just fine.
You know, life goes on after wrestling, and you can stay in the business and not have to perform anymore, so they're gonna be okay.
But one I'm glad they got to have one last match on a big stage where everybody could see them, So hats off to them, and then let's see what we do.
Oh and little Spike, it.
Speaker 3Was nice, Oh yeah, just.
Speaker 2For a minute in the beginning.
It was cute to have him run out and put the glasses on them.
So I was happy to see them.
And then we got our main event.
We have the TNA World Championship match, Mike Santana versus Trick Williams.
I thought it was good.
Mike Santana is growing on me.
I didn't really know anything about this guy.
Are you a fan of his?
Did you know much?
Speaker 3I mean I knew you know, I knew them from tag team, but you know as a singles.
I mean, yeah, he's great, he's good.
Speaker 2Yeah.
I thought the which was really good.
Happy to see him win it.
I think they had good back and forth.
I think they kept the fans in it.
I like the inclusion of his daughter.
Uh you didn't don't care, Okay.
Speaker 3Just win the damn belt.
Just if he won the belt.
Just can't they do this stuff for like social media?
Why do we have Why does every person have to do the same.
It's just the same thing over, It's the same trope over and over and over.
Speaker 2Anyway, Mike Santana wins.
Speaker 3I'm happy for the guy and great victory.
Speaker 2We get the money in the back, I mean the Casher Gauntlet.
What's it called?
Speaker 3Uh yeah, gauntlet in the bank.
Speaker 2Call your shot, yes, call your shot?
Uh?
Nick Nevis runs down teasing the trophy, but the Elijah returning elijahs he hits him over the head.
Poor Nick.
And then we see Frank Kazarian again, but then he took a big lariat and then uh, the daughter came in a ring and then we celebrate and Santana is your winner.
So I guess nobody cashed in and we're gonna fight over who gets the cash in because you you need the trophy.
The funny part was, I feel like Frankie could have exited the ring on other sides and ran around and got the trophy, but he was just choosing the one side we couldn't get the trophy.
But it'll be interesting to see what they do with that, because it's you know, it's gonna now you got your wish.
It's gonna be Nick and Frankie in some kind of feud over this trophy who gets the cashing in.
So you're gonna be seeing more of these two.
Speaker 3Well good and Elijah too, because he's awesome.
Speaker 2Yes, I'm not ever gotten.
Speaker 3He's never gotten that spot that he should have had.
Speaker 2You think though he was getting pushed a lot in the beginning.
Yeah, I mean they they were all in on him at one point, but then he just disappeared.
I got to meet him for a really quick quickly.
He was very nice, didn't really talk too much ourselves, and.
Speaker 3One of the most creative reinvention videos post w W he ever, was Elijah very in Elias to become Elijah.
Speaker 2What was the thing he did with the brother when he would.
Speaker 3Have one of the greatest things in history?
A I, yes, what was the brother's name, but they were doing not Elijah Elias and no, no, oh my god, this is killing me.
Speaker 2It's okay, Well that was one of the great.
Speaker 3With Kevin Owens always coming out saying that he is you know, he was lying every week that was the great.
That was one of the greatest things they were doing at that point.
Speaker 2Yeah, so I don't know.
I thought this was a great, great main event match, and I thought it was overall a great pay per view.
I enjoyed it.
It wasn't a chore for me to sit through this because I literally enjoyed every match that was on the card.
And I can honestly say that I'm not kissing anyone's ass because I don't get any kick back from anybody.
They're not DNA, not w w A, not a w uh.
No one could care less.
Speaker 3It was Ezekiel.
Speaker 2No one couldn't care less to what I say.
Ezekiel.
There you go.
Yeah, no one uh No, one couldn't care less what I have to say in the business.
Although my co hosts over here Chad things that everybody listens to us and that's why things are updated.
Speaker 3Because they do.
Yeah, I definitely do AnyWho I do.
I think this was a strong show.
I think, you know, the WW influence is there, very very strongly.
Again, you know, I didn't shot on the commentary like I normally would because it just don't have to repeat myself over and over.
Speaker 2Over seven thousand attendance their biggest house yet, which is great.
They just keep breaking those attendance records and again everybody worked super hard.
So kudos to TNA.
Hell of a show.
I hope it continues for them and we'll see what happens next.
But let us know what you think in the comments section.
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So big, big deal, big big deal, So very happy about that.
Speaker 2Cool.
I could finally let you guys know I am booked for Restle Caid this year.
Me and the franchise Shane Douglas will be appearing Friday and Saturday, along with some other ECW talent.
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