[SPEAKER_06]: the last year.

[SPEAKER_06]: Our friends from the murder in the rain podcast have more.

[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to True Crime Tuesday.

[SPEAKER_01]: Today we're seeking information regarding the disappearance of thirty-two-year-old Alana Carroll, who's been missing since September, twenty-three.

[SPEAKER_01]: We were contacted by Alana Carroll's family who last saw her on August fifteenth, twenty-three.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like so many cases we cover, there are many unfounded rumors surrounding the circumstances of her disappearance, making for a complicated investigation.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is why we ask that you share Alana's story so her family can get answers.

[SPEAKER_01]: In September of last year, Alana was struggling with substance abuse, which led to her staying with friends and acquaintances throughout Northern Clark County, Washington.

[SPEAKER_01]: After she was reported to be missing, searches were initiated, but nothing significant was found.

[SPEAKER_01]: For reasons not shared with the public, investigators have stated that they believe Alana is deceased.

[SPEAKER_01]: Without her remains, it's unclear if she died due to an accidental overdose or homicide.

[SPEAKER_01]: The Clacamus County Sheriff's Office has stated that they have identified in our focusing on a suspect who is incarcerated on unrelated charges.

[SPEAKER_01]: Alana's family has informed us there was a tip sent in regarding a male who was with Alana possibly as she overdosed and may have placed her body in the trunk of his car or dispose of her body before scrapping his vehicle.

[SPEAKER_01]: This has not been confirmed by police.

[SPEAKER_01]: Alana is described as being a fair skined female with a slim build standing five foot six.

[SPEAKER_01]: She has brown hair and blue eyes.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you have any information surrounding Alana's disappearance, location or possible death, you are asked to contact the Clark County Sheriff's Office at three six zero three nine seven two two one one.

[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for watching and for sharing Alana's story.

[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be back next week with another true crime Tuesday.

[SPEAKER_03]: After that segment aired on Coins AM Extra, I was contacted by Melissa.

[SPEAKER_03]: Melissa is Alana Carroll's aunt and she, along with Alana's grandmother, Joyce, wanted to share Alana's story.

[SPEAKER_03]: For someone who didn't know Alana, her disappearance can be easily ignored, forgotten, or dismissed.

[SPEAKER_03]: As is the case with anyone who disappears or is murdered, there is so much more to the story and person.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana wasn't disposable.

[SPEAKER_03]: She wasn't just some junkie who no one cared about.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was a daughter, a sister, a mother, a friend, and this August will mark two years since she was last seen alive.

[SPEAKER_03]: Her family is desperate for answers, and they hope you can help find their beloved Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: propaganda and fear mongering would have most people outside of the Pacific Northwest thinking that Oregon and Washington are overrun with drug addicts who would do anything, including harm to get their next fix.

[SPEAKER_03]: While both states do suffer from a staggering number of people with substance abuse disorders, there is always more to the story.

[SPEAKER_03]: People with drug addictions are people, they are parents, grandparents, friends, siblings, aunts and uncles.

[SPEAKER_03]: There is also an array of reasons someone can be come addicted, self medication being one of the most common.

[SPEAKER_03]: Be it that someone can't get the right medical care for their mental health or their denied support for their physical health, street drugs from weed to fentanyl can be the only source of relief for those suffering.

[SPEAKER_03]: In twenty twenty two, Oregon was named the state with the highest number of people struggling with addiction.

[SPEAKER_03]: It has also been named the worst for support and recovery.

[SPEAKER_03]: Number.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we did it.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're number one.

[SPEAKER_03]: We're number one of bad.

[SPEAKER_03]: Number show that via self-reporting so they aren't exactly scientifically accurate that one in five Oregonians has a substance abuse disorder and the treatment system in place is about half the size it should be for that population.

[SPEAKER_03]: While most people think of those with an addiction turning to hard drugs like meth, heroin, or fentanyl, alcohol is actually one of the biggest killers in the state.

[SPEAKER_03]: On average, six people in Oregon died daily from alcohol-related causes, whereas in twenty twenty three, there were three unintentional drug overdose deaths a day.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alcohol is the third leading cause of death in the state and accounts for forty-two percent of drug-related hospital visits, whereas opioids, meth, weed, and cocaine combined make up forty-two percent.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was pretty surprised by that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I guess not shocked surprised, but the number was much higher than I would have thought.

[SPEAKER_03]: I believe that.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, you've been in the drinking scene of Portland.

[SPEAKER_04]: There are so many people who drink so much, so often.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a real problem.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I loved it for a little while.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a big part of Portland culture, a huge part of Portland culture.

[SPEAKER_04]: It's a brewery town, it's a logging town, it's a shipyard town.

[SPEAKER_03]: As someone who was a never a drinker, the amount of flag I got because that was most activities that everyone did was let's go to the bar or let's go to this place and [SPEAKER_04]: have some drinks.

[SPEAKER_04]: When I first met you, I thought we might not be able to hang out or whatever because I drank and you did not.

[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, oh, that's weird that she doesn't drink.

[SPEAKER_04]: And now it, I mean, it's a virtue.

[SPEAKER_04]: I love, I love it.

[SPEAKER_04]: When I'm like, that's not going to be a problem from this person.

[SPEAKER_04]: Wonderful.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think you would get less flack and questions and attention if you had an actual horn growing out of your head than to be a non-drink or important.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she's got a horn, but he's seen her put away the PBR's.

[SPEAKER_04]: They're only two dollars at this place down the street.

[SPEAKER_04]: He used the horn to open up the beers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Washington State is on the same track.

[SPEAKER_03]: In twenty nineteen there were eight hundred twenty seven opioid related deaths in the state.

[SPEAKER_03]: But in twenty twenty one the number nearly doubled to one thousand six hundred nineteen deaths sixty eight percent of drug overdose deaths among Washington residents involved an opioid.

[SPEAKER_03]: A huge contributor to the addiction rates across the nation is thanks to opioids and similar medications.

[SPEAKER_03]: Someone could be prescribed something like oxy by a medical professional unaware of just how addictive it could be.

[SPEAKER_03]: So they follow doctor's orders, but are soon addicted to something far more powerful than they are.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then when the doctor realizes there's an issue, they revoke the prescription and leave the patient hanging without relief or other options.

[SPEAKER_03]: seeking that same sort of comfort patients then turn to more accessible medications, such as weed, alcohol, or something stronger.

[SPEAKER_03]: One such patient was Alana Carroll.

[SPEAKER_03]: Before we talk about how she ended up on a path of self-medication, let's talk about who she was as a person.

[SPEAKER_03]: With information and stories shared by her Aunt Melissa and Grandmother Joyce, those who love her.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana was a fun loving woman who enjoyed makeup, pretty clothes, and Victoria's secret pink brand.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, she didn't just enjoy pink.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was obsessed.

[SPEAKER_03]: She loved to shop and pick up a new pair of undies to add to her already extensive collection, or a new purse was a great source of joy for her.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's believed she had a full drawer of pink merch and enough pairs of underwear to wear a new one every day for months.

[SPEAKER_03]: One of her prized possessions was a thousand dollars Chanel bag that she had purchased when she was young.

[SPEAKER_03]: It currently resides in the family's safe awaiting a lot as return.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some other words her family used to describe Alana were clever, funny, sweet and good humored.

[SPEAKER_03]: She had a million dollar smile, love to laugh, and to make others laugh.

[SPEAKER_03]: She loved her family, and when her twenty-eight-year-old mother Selena passed away in two thousand from carbon monoxide poisoning when Alana was ten years old, her grandmother happily took custody.

[SPEAKER_03]: It took three years to make the arrangement official as Alana's birth father made the custody battle difficult.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because he was behind on child support payments, he demanded the family formally adopt Alana to get him off the financial hook, so they did just that.

[SPEAKER_03]: With note on a lot of his mother, Melissa, Selena's sister, did inform me when I asked about her death via email, quote, my sister's cause of death was actually believed to have been attributed to exposure.

[SPEAKER_03]: Truthfully, there was not enough drugs or carbon monoxide in her system to cause death.

[SPEAKER_03]: The rest is speculation more than anything because nothing else was found to have caused her death.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, just wanted to get all that info out.

[SPEAKER_03]: As if losing a parent when you're young isn't hard enough, Alana still spent time with her father's family, and those times tended to wreak havoc on the structure her family was trying to implement.

[SPEAKER_03]: After her visits with her dad, she would come home with a bit of an attitude.

[SPEAKER_03]: Concerned about the differences they were seeing in Alana, her grandmother listened in on a phone conversation one day with her paternal grandmother.

[SPEAKER_03]: Eve's dropping, she could not believe what she was hearing.

[SPEAKER_03]: A grandmother telling a grandchild to not bother with going to school, to skip out on counseling until her father once again had custody.

[SPEAKER_03]: The conflict was heavy on a lawn as heart, not knowing what to do, she ran away.

[SPEAKER_03]: On that occasion, she was missing for sixteen months.

[SPEAKER_03]: That actually wasn't the first time young Alana took off to avoid the tug of war between her families.

[SPEAKER_03]: On another occasion, her family was looking for her, calling all her friends, checking her usual hangouts.

[SPEAKER_03]: And they got word that Alana was staying with a woman who was known to sell weed, so they went on a stakeout.

[SPEAKER_03]: Finally, they spotted Alana leaving the house and they were not going to let her get away.

[SPEAKER_03]: Somalisa chased her down, tackled her, and got a hold of her underwear.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana fell on top of Malisa, a wrangled around on the ground, and with one hand still holding the undies, Malisa called the cops, which for them was a hilarious sight.

[SPEAKER_03]: On another occasion, Elana didn't come home from school, so her family grew worried again and went looking for her.

[SPEAKER_03]: They checked the school, there's no sign of her, so they went to an apartment building that she frequented.

[SPEAKER_03]: No dice.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then they wound up at a burgerville parking lot.

[SPEAKER_03]: For those not in the Pacific Northwest Burgerville is a local burger place known for their fresh local ingredients.

[SPEAKER_03]: Josh and Ian put on burgerville.

[SPEAKER_04]: Great fries, great burgers, great shakes.

[SPEAKER_04]: I used to use one of their bathrooms all the time when I was driving for Uber and Lyft.

[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks a bunch.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana was not at the burgerville, but as they hung out, they were shocked to see how prolific the drug dealing was.

[SPEAKER_03]: There was a guy selling out of his car, another dude with an infant in his arms.

[SPEAKER_03]: Again, the ladies called the cops this time to inform them of the active drug deals taking place.

[SPEAKER_03]: The response, a laugh and a, uh-huh, yeah, like, what do you want me to do about it?

[SPEAKER_03]: Melissa asked for help because they realized high school students were targeted customers and the police station was just a few blocks away, but there was never any response.

[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of was sort of always on the move.

[SPEAKER_03]: She would often stay with friends and there was a bit of a running joke about how much she would pack when doing so.

[SPEAKER_03]: With a multitude of bags on her arms, her family would laugh, asking if she was moving in with her friend.

[SPEAKER_03]: Knowing she was just going to be gone for a few hours.

[SPEAKER_03]: Part of her overpacking was due in part to her being the queen of forgetting stuff.

[SPEAKER_03]: Was Alana over?

[SPEAKER_03]: Then you probably came across one of her jackets, a shirt, maybe even a cell phone.

[SPEAKER_03]: At grocery stores, she would need to get her wallet, which usually meant taking many items out of her purse to get it, which meant leaving cards and yes, her cell phone behind.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana could be hard to reach because her phone was always getting left behind somewhere.

[SPEAKER_03]: When Alana was just thirteen, she was walking down the street with her Aunt Melissa.

[SPEAKER_03]: As traffic passed, a car honked and a driver cat called.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thirty-four-year-old Melissa assumed it was to her and adult, but without hesitation, Alana flipped her hair and said, they were looking at me.

[SPEAKER_06]: And we're walking down the street and some dude hogs at her and yells at us out the window and she goes, they were looking at me.

[SPEAKER_06]: Her teen, I don't know lack of confidence there.

[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana was an intelligent and talented kid, but she wasn't the most fond of school or the accompanying homework where she really thrived was in social situations.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was also incredibly artistic and creative.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was a wonderful writer and storyteller.

[SPEAKER_03]: She had a neck for hand-drying photorealistic portraits.

[SPEAKER_03]: Her family had hopes of seeing her pursue a career in the arts.

[SPEAKER_03]: It can be hard for a teenager to see that kind of future though, while she enjoyed being creative, Alana wasn't as focused on it as a career path.

[SPEAKER_03]: At that time, her passions were shopping, finding a reason to flip her hair.

[SPEAKER_03]: She had attended a modeling school where she was also finding success.

[SPEAKER_03]: Really, she was just like most teenage girls.

[SPEAKER_03]: She liked to be girly and feminine, pretty and social.

[SPEAKER_03]: All of this didn't mean she wasn't talking about her future.

[SPEAKER_03]: And she had plans for goal she was hoping to accomplish in the future.

[SPEAKER_03]: Those plans would be derailed a bit when Alana wound up pregnant when she was sixteen years old.

[SPEAKER_03]: Her son, A, as we'll refer to him, was born when she was seventeen.

[SPEAKER_03]: According to Melissa, Alana loved her son very much, and the family was overall supportive.

[SPEAKER_03]: Saying, quote, obviously it wasn't what we wanted for her at such a young age, but family is family and we loved him from the moment we locked eyes.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's a precious child.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's now seventeen and going into job core.

[SPEAKER_03]: Not sure what he'll be learning yet, he looks so much like her.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana's life was changed after becoming a mother.

[SPEAKER_03]: Five years later, Alana would give birth to her daughter, Jay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now, a mother of two, Alana's life seemed to be on a matrily path, focused on giving her children a beautiful life, and hoping she'd have more time to spend with them than she spent with her own mother.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana may have been focused on her future and her children, but life is not that kind.

[SPEAKER_03]: In twenty twelve when Alana's daughter was just four months old, a trip down a road changed the entire course of Alana's life and eventually led to her death.

[SPEAKER_03]: On that day, Alano was driving her car with her boyfriend and brother as passengers.

[SPEAKER_03]: Going down a blind dip, she hadn't seen there was a tractor in the road ahead and attached to the back a hay bailer rake.

[SPEAKER_03]: Unable to stop in time, the rake's teeth came crashing through the windshield.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thankfully, along his brother, who was in the passenger seat, was extremely tall, and in order to fit into the vehicle, he had to be basically laying down.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because of that, there was enough distance, and the rake did not impale him.

[SPEAKER_06]: Part of it came right through the window where his face would have been if he were a normal person, he would have been dead.

[SPEAKER_06]: So he was very, very lucky.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana survived as did her boyfriend, but she was not unscathed far from.

[SPEAKER_03]: The accident was very nearly fatal and her injuries were horrendous.

[SPEAKER_03]: On our blog at murder in the rain.com, you can see the photos that were provided to us from Alana's family, including X-rays after the accident.

[SPEAKER_03]: One of which is of Alana's elbow.

[SPEAKER_03]: The specialist who treated her pulverized elbow said that he had never seen a worse injury.

[SPEAKER_03]: Her bone had been turned into crumbs that were being held together by pins, plates, and screws.

[SPEAKER_03]: Another devastating injury was to Alana's femur.

[SPEAKER_03]: This happened when the car slammed into the tractor, transferring all of that power from the brake pedal up through Alana's leg.

[SPEAKER_03]: The fracture required a titanium rod to be placed in her thigh.

[SPEAKER_03]: Her wrist was fractured in five places due to the same pressure, but from holding the steering wheel.

[SPEAKER_03]: Understandably, the accident left Alana in a lot of pain.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was out of the hospital surprisingly fast, but that didn't mean she was healed.

[SPEAKER_03]: Going home to a four-month-old baby in a five-year-old child, Alana was unable to be a mother.

[SPEAKER_03]: Complicating everything was that her right leg had been broken, and her left arm was destroyed.

[SPEAKER_03]: She didn't have a good side.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was physically incapable of even holding her baby, caring for herself, or finding a comfortable position.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was an actual nightmare.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because of her condition, Alana's family stepped in and started to help with the kids.

[SPEAKER_03]: To manage the severe pain she was in, Alana's doctors prescribed her pain killers, like oxycodone.

[SPEAKER_03]: The meds took the edge off, but Alana's injuries left her nearly non-functioning.

[SPEAKER_03]: The complications didn't help.

[SPEAKER_03]: The titanium rod was in her thigh, but her hips soon began developing calcification.

[SPEAKER_03]: The rod was removed and irradiated.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because of that treatment she was warned that she was now at an increased risk of cancer.

[SPEAKER_03]: On another occasion, a pin started to protrude through the skin of her elbow, so that had to be removed.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana had very small skinny joints, so there wasn't much fat padding to work with, so doctors had to remove a plate because there wasn't a way to keep it in place comfortably.

[SPEAKER_03]: This accident and the accompanying pain is what led Alana down a path of drug use.

[SPEAKER_03]: A split second, a moment an accident, then boom.

[SPEAKER_03]: No more holding your babies, no more being a mother, just survival and attempts to get through the seemingly unending days of unimaginable pain.

[SPEAKER_03]: A moment in time that no one is immune to, combined with flippant prescriptions of leafly addictive medications.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was around this time that the conversation around oxyprescriptions was changing, and the severely addictive nature of the medication was realized.

[SPEAKER_03]: On top of that, Alana's doctor no longer accepted her insurance.

[SPEAKER_03]: Instead of offering Alana alternative medications, pain management, or other options for medication, they simply cut her off cold turkey.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now she was in pain and withdrawals.

[SPEAKER_03]: To try to manage the pain along a turn to her friends and family, seeking any kind of relief, that very slippery slope led to her self-medicating with harder drugs.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was quickly addicted and the next thing her family knew she was no longer managing pain, she was managing a full-blown addiction.

[SPEAKER_03]: In the beginning of her addiction, Alana was behaving as she always had.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was functioning and seemed to be herself.

[SPEAKER_03]: But as time went by, it got worse and worse.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana's addiction led to dark days.

[SPEAKER_03]: The drugs started to affect her mental state.

[SPEAKER_03]: She'd come home and have arguments with someone who was not there.

[SPEAKER_03]: She would verbally attack her loved ones.

[SPEAKER_03]: She would leave, go to her friend's place, then come back home, acting like nothing had happened.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana was welcome in her family's home, but only when she was sober.

[SPEAKER_03]: When she wasn't, her family told her that they loved her, but she was not allowed to stay in that state.

[SPEAKER_03]: On one of her sober visits, Melissa made dinner for them.

[SPEAKER_03]: They had a lovely visit and even a slumber party.

[SPEAKER_03]: It felt like old times.

[SPEAKER_03]: And what Melissa didn't know is that that would be one of the last times that they'd be together.

[SPEAKER_05]: She never, I never thought that whenever she left it, she wouldn't be coming back.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, she's like the bad penny.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, she always came back.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, she always came back.

[SPEAKER_03]: Throughout the years, Alana overdose at least five times usually due to fentanyl.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thankfully, on one occasion, Alana's cousin had Narcan on her and was able to save Alana's life.

[SPEAKER_03]: This would lead to her being hospitalized.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was also dealing with infections and other health care issues that come along with drug use.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana's health was deteriorating and her overdoses and hospital visits were increasing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Melissa felt that because of this, Alana wasn't going to be with them much longer.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was thin, unwell.

[SPEAKER_03]: Her family decided the only way to keep from losing Alana was to give her an intervention.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana did eventually go to rehab, but not because of the intervention.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was court ordered and she received two and a half months of treatment.

[SPEAKER_03]: When she was going through inpatient and taken away from her contacts in the drug world, she would get clean and seemed to be on the right path of sobriety.

[SPEAKER_03]: When Alana exited rehab or inpatient care, she was always right back to using within a week.

[SPEAKER_03]: She would simply come home, contact her connections, and was right back to it as if she had never had any treatment.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's how intense the group of addiction was.

[SPEAKER_03]: The family needed to acknowledge treatment was not working, but it was too unbearable a thought.

[SPEAKER_03]: Their nightmare came true when they lost, not Alana, but one of her brothers, Lauren, to an accidental overdose.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was also struggling with an addiction, and in December of twenty-twenty-two, the infedemines he was using, unbeknownst to him, were laced with fentanyl, and he died.

[SPEAKER_03]: This was the same brother who had survived the same accident as Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was seven foot two, three hundred pounds, and a small amount of fentanyl took him out.

[SPEAKER_03]: That devastating loss shook the family and showed everyone just how dangerous addiction can be.

[SPEAKER_03]: And as we know too well, it seems that when grief starts to rain down, it pours.

[SPEAKER_03]: Melissa informed me that Lauren's father, grandmother, father and uncle all passed within a fairly short amount of time.

[SPEAKER_03]: Melissa told me Lauren, quote, struggled to do what came naturally to most people, the basics like taking care of himself, getting a roof over his head, et cetera.

[SPEAKER_03]: I asked if Alana dealt with any kind of mental health issues, which would only amplify her need to self-medicate.

[SPEAKER_03]: Her family informed me that she had severe anxiety and PTSD from the accident.

[SPEAKER_03]: She tried to get medical treatment for her anxiety, but because she was actively in addiction, no doctor would prescribe her anything to help.

[SPEAKER_03]: even though they were the ones that got her hooked in the first place.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana had proven with other medication and expectations that she was capable of managing medication, taking it appropriately, but the doctors did nothing.

[SPEAKER_03]: So she suffered through her severe debilitating panic attacks on her own.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was horrible to see her.

[SPEAKER_06]: It was really it was devastating to look at her going through that [SPEAKER_06]: and know that there was nothing that we could do to help her.

[SPEAKER_06]: We're close to hyperventilation.

[SPEAKER_05]: She and almost collapsing.

[SPEAKER_05]: She does.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: She's a little bad.

[SPEAKER_06]: And that's another reason for the drug use.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, well, you're not going to give me my medication that I need to deal with my anxiety.

[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm just going to drug myself.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_06]: So she did.

[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: As the summer months passed, there was less contact with Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: Her family was worried, but it was a worry that they had grown familiar with.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then Joyce received an odd phone call.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was from a man who lived at a notorious compound, famous for drugs, dark rumors, and disappearances.

[SPEAKER_03]: The man claimed he was calling because he had become concerned about Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: He said he hadn't seen or heard from her and it was unusual.

[SPEAKER_03]: Joyce told him that she hadn't heard from her either, but would reach out if she heard from Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: The man called soon after and repeated his story.

[SPEAKER_03]: This was strange behavior not only for the repeated call, but because Alana had been out of touch before and this man had never bothered to reach out to the family.

[SPEAKER_03]: Before that call, Alana's family was already on heightened alert.

[SPEAKER_03]: It had been a little longer than usual since they had heard from her, and they were putting fielers out to see if anyone had been in contact with Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: After that call, the search intensified.

[SPEAKER_03]: More calls were made, many went unanswered.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some people had info, most people had nothing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Then stories started to circulate that Alana had overdosed at the compound and her body had been dumped in a ditch.

[SPEAKER_03]: Joyce and Melissa went to the property and searched the two point five mile area, but there is no sign of Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana's family felt they wouldn't have to look far to find her because of her anxiety and PTSD.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana was known for keeping a very tight safety circle.

[SPEAKER_03]: She had her friends, family, and their houses that she would go to, but that was it.

[SPEAKER_03]: So when rumors started to come out that she had taken it upon herself to leave Washington to go to the Nevada border because she ran away or was offered drugs and left, her family felt that that would have been absolutely completely out of character.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was not a traveler, she stuck close to home.

[SPEAKER_03]: Even though Alana was known for being too trusting at times, she didn't feel comfortable around a lot of people.

[SPEAKER_03]: She found solace with her friends and family.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana's trust issues could be frustrating at times.

[SPEAKER_03]: She would immediately trust people and it would take them turning on her for her to feel otherwise, but by then it was usually too late and the harm was done.

[SPEAKER_03]: Due to the circumstances surrounding Alana's disappearance, there are a lot of theories, but let's start with the notorious compound.

[SPEAKER_03]: The compound is a private property located in Battleground, Washington, on nearly seven hundred and fifty thousand square feet of land.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's so expansive that even has its own little air strip and outbuildings.

[SPEAKER_03]: The owner was Charles R.

Norgard.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's believed it was his son Scott, who had called the family in September, voicing his concern for Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: The word about town was that the compound was a place filled with drug use, drug sales, trafficking of drugs and humans and many other illegal activities.

[SPEAKER_03]: These are the allegations based on hearsay.

[SPEAKER_03]: I will share some of Charles's background, he's the man who owned the property, to give you a better idea of the situation.

[SPEAKER_03]: However, Alana's case is active and there are not any public statements from the police giving names of suspects.

[SPEAKER_03]: They have implied that there is a suspect there looking at, but there hasn't been much movement on that in the last year.

[SPEAKER_03]: None of what I or Alana's family say about the North Guards or their possible involvement in Alana's disappearance is official or an accusation.

[SPEAKER_03]: These are allegations and not legal statements.

[SPEAKER_03]: In November, nineteen eighty two forty nine year old Charles Norgard and his two sons Curtis and Scott twenty seven and twenty six respectively.

[SPEAKER_03]: His wife Helen forty eight and his daughter in law Jerry twenty eight were all arrested for a variety of crimes.

[SPEAKER_03]: Around nine PM on Saturday, November, twenty-sixth, Randy L.

Handberg and his pal Alex Hunter, both just sixteen years old, decided they wanted to get their hands on some weed.

[SPEAKER_03]: Knowing that there was a house which was growing a substantial amount not far from them, they went to the home on West thirty-second in Vancouver, Washington.

[SPEAKER_03]: After they broke in, they stole a few bags of weed and took off.

[SPEAKER_03]: And by a few bags, I mean about a hundred and fifty pounds.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just a couple bags, a couple grammars.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hell yeah.

[SPEAKER_04]: He likes it for the rubbery.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's weed in here.

[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go see it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_03]: We stole as much weed as our bodies weigh.

[SPEAKER_04]: No one's going to care about this.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not at all.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they couldn't take [SPEAKER_03]: one pound, which should have lasted them a very long time.

[SPEAKER_04]: I cannot imagine having a pound of league.

[SPEAKER_04]: That would be incredible.

[SPEAKER_03]: They took up.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're like just grab it all of it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Grab it all.

[SPEAKER_03]: Don't stop.

[SPEAKER_03]: The following day, Alex was hanging out at a friend's house around two p.m.

[SPEAKER_03]: when nineteen-year-old Miles Mitchell, a friend of the nor guards, showed up and asked him to come outside.

[SPEAKER_03]: The two then walked down the streetaways when they came upon a car.

[SPEAKER_03]: Once there, a man inside the car pointed a gun at Alex's head and forced him into the vehicle.

[SPEAKER_03]: They then drove to Randy's house an hour and a half away.

[SPEAKER_03]: Busting inside, they found Randy and his mother Barbara, who was doing her hair in the bathroom.

[SPEAKER_03]: Not knowing what was happening, Barbara attempted to call the police, but one of the men ripped the phone from her.

[SPEAKER_03]: Another one of the men then said something about twenty K worth of pot that had been taken by them.

[SPEAKER_03]: Both boys were then put into the car again and driven to Vancouver.

[SPEAKER_03]: Once there, a plan to get the weed back was made.

[SPEAKER_03]: In a panic, having watched her son be kidnapped, Barbara called her brother who lived in Vancouver.

[SPEAKER_03]: She described the men and the situation and her brother realized, that sounds like my neighbor is the Norgards.

[SPEAKER_03]: So he went to the Norgards house, spoke with Charles, and talked him into letting the teenagers go.

[SPEAKER_03]: As soon as they were both home safe, the police recalled and an investigation began.

[SPEAKER_03]: The police interviewed the boys and this led to getting three search warrant for the property.

[SPEAKER_03]: Once their pounds and pounds of marijuana had been harvested, they were huge watering systems in a thriving greenhouse full of cannabis plants.

[SPEAKER_03]: This interview led to a raid on the property where police found about three hundred pounds of cannabis.

[SPEAKER_03]: So illegal possession was obviously the first charge of many, followed by charges for kidnapping illegal possession with intent to distribute.

[SPEAKER_03]: Helen and Jerry were charged with unlawful possession of marijuana with intent to deliver.

[SPEAKER_03]: The street value of that much weed and today's money would be between eight hundred and twenty two thousand and one point three million dollars.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, understandable why they tracked those boys down to get half of their stock back.

[SPEAKER_03]: Scott and Curtis pleaded guilty to unlawful imprisonment and possession of marijuana with intent to deliver.

[SPEAKER_03]: Helen also took a plea deal claiming that their weed operation was only to raise money to put their sons through college.

[SPEAKER_03]: She was placed on probation.

[SPEAKER_03]: Jerry's charges were dropped.

[SPEAKER_03]: Scott was given a minimum, one hundred and eighty days in jail as part of a five year term for the kidnapping and possession.

[SPEAKER_03]: Curtis earned the same.

[SPEAKER_03]: Both would have three years probation.

[SPEAKER_03]: Charles was sentenced to six point five years for the kidnapping and possession.

[SPEAKER_03]: What really sucks is that these kids who were just making very stupid decisions, which teenagers make were then charged for their own part in the burglary.

[SPEAKER_03]: There were even threats of them being charged as adults and facing life in prison when it was their actions that led to the biggest weed bust in Clark County history to that point.

[SPEAKER_03]: Luckily, Alex and Randy went through Juvee for the charges of first degree burglary and first degree theft.

[SPEAKER_03]: The boys ended up pleading guilty, although I couldn't find what their actual sentence is wound up being.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was recommended that they only serve about a month in Juvee and then do some community service.

[SPEAKER_03]: Apparently that wasn't the best deterrent.

[SPEAKER_03]: When Randy was twenty three, he was arrested for second degree criminal trespass after driving through the gate of a state park.

[SPEAKER_03]: In ninety two and ninety seven, he was busted driving with a suspended license.

[SPEAKER_03]: But it looks like maybe that was the extent of his criminal doings.

[SPEAKER_03]: For as many crimes as he committed or was accused of, Charles Norgard loved to be in the paper.

[SPEAKER_03]: But not for the reasons you'd expect.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was a frequent contributor of the letters to the editor.

[SPEAKER_03]: In nineteen ninety two, he was ahead of his time when writing about the lack of protection from police.

[SPEAKER_03]: The delicate nature of the Republic and hate groups.

[SPEAKER_03]: Here's a sample.

[SPEAKER_03]: How about that neat little organization calling itself Oregon citizens alliance?

[SPEAKER_03]: What acute euphemism?

[SPEAKER_03]: They are so good at giving organizations a label, shades of George or well.

[SPEAKER_03]: Again, you say it cannot be so, not here.

[SPEAKER_03]: I imagine there were thousands of people in Germany thinking exactly like that in the nineteen thirties when that madman Hitler was telling them how great they were and how Jews and elderly disabled are insane people were deserving only of a cruel death.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's different here, you say.

[SPEAKER_03]: We are a free people, able to determine our own destiny.

[SPEAKER_03]: We are free to vote for a choice of leaders, free to defend ourselves with firearms of necessary.

[SPEAKER_03]: Most of us are not aware that the police in this country are not sworn to protect us and defend us from danger.

[SPEAKER_03]: State and federal courts have repeatedly reconfirmed that law enforcement officials have no duty to protect individual citizens, but only a general duty to enforce the law.

[SPEAKER_03]: In nineteen eighty two a U.S.

[SPEAKER_03]: Court of Appeals seventh district declared that the fourteenth amendment to the U.S.

[SPEAKER_03]: Constitution gives no right to police protection.

[SPEAKER_03]: But the politicians seeking to avoid responsibility for riots and crime, diligently searching for a way to avoid the real problems, blindly try to enforce more anti-fire arms laws.

[SPEAKER_03]: Trust me, officials say, we will protect you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Did they protect Anne Frank?

[SPEAKER_03]: In seventeen eighty-seven, just after the signing of the U.S.

[SPEAKER_03]: Constitution, a citizen won Mrs.

Powell asked Benjamin Franklin, well-doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?

[SPEAKER_03]: Franklin replied, a republic, if you can keep it.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's time to keep it folks.

[SPEAKER_03]: Read, learn and vote.

[SPEAKER_03]: We deserve what we get for political leaders and we deserve what they do to us.

[SPEAKER_03]: Our elected leaders are not gods.

[SPEAKER_03]: They are servants of the people and paid excellent salaries to represent us instead of lining their own nests and abusing the very people who vote them into office.

[SPEAKER_03]: Charles R.

Norgard lives in battleground.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that was one of his mini letters to the editor.

[SPEAKER_04]: Hitler was bad.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hitler's bad cops are not protecting us.

[SPEAKER_03]: Politicians are not protecting us.

[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of his other letters were about gun rights.

[SPEAKER_03]: Basically everything he wrote was circling back around to why he should get to keep his guns.

[SPEAKER_04]: You're telling me a person like that wrote a self-serving letter.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Scream it into the void.

[SPEAKER_03]: In July, nineteen ninety-two Charles had been moved and frustrated by the riots, aka civil uprising against a fascist police organization that had gone down in LA in April of that year and he had some words for citizens.

[SPEAKER_03]: That event was proof that the cops were not going to look out for you and you would need to get a gun in order to protect yourself and your family.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was a staunch supporter of the Second Amendment and signed this essay Charles R.

Norgard is a Korean War veteran.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's very interesting Charles was a war veteran because I think that explains the compound lifestyle.

[SPEAKER_03]: The reasons behind Charles' dislike of cops and love of guns and freedom was probably due to the fact that he was actively and often breaking the law.

[SPEAKER_03]: In nineteen ninety nine federal agents rated the compound and seized twenty four guns marijuana and over seventy five hundred rounds of ammunition and he had made threats against officials.

[SPEAKER_03]: In March of two thousand Charles was sentenced to just shy of five years in prison in three years probation, after he pleaded guilty to being a felon in possession of a firearm.

[SPEAKER_03]: While behind bars, he completed an intense drug and alcohol program, which earned him a year off his sentence.

[SPEAKER_03]: This deal actually led to a lawsuit because the Bureau of Prisons reneged on their offer and he did stay in additional year.

[SPEAKER_03]: The suit asked that since he had to serve more time, his supervision should be terminated.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was living with his wife, they were both retired, and he had passed fifteen random drug tests.

[SPEAKER_03]: The government agreed that Charles did spend more time in prison than he should have per the deal, but argued he only served in extra eight months, not an entire year.

[SPEAKER_03]: While making their decision, the board looked at Charles's history.

[SPEAKER_03]: He had gone to prison for kidnapping, had a history of drug manufacturing and dealing.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was in prison for having a cache of weapons.

[SPEAKER_03]: On the flip side, he was at the time, seventy-one years old, working well with the supervision team, had completed courses, and in doing the math regarding the eight extra months in prison, and the fact that he served seventeen of his thirty-six months of supervision, it was decided his parole would be terminated.

[SPEAKER_03]: Scott Norgard, his son, also continued down the criminal path.

[SPEAKER_03]: Josh, I'm just checking in that you're following all of these people.

[SPEAKER_03]: So we've got Charles Norgard, who was the owner of and patriarch of the family that was at the compound.

[SPEAKER_04]: He used the one that's right in these letters.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's writing the letters and he was the patriarch of the weed house that was robbed in the eighties.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Northern.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: So this is his son Scott, North Garden.

[SPEAKER_03]: He's the one that had called Alana's family in September of twenty three saying, Hey, she'd been at the compound.

[SPEAKER_03]: Haven't seen her for a while.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that's Scott.

[SPEAKER_03]: Charles is son.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just want to make sure that's all clear.

[SPEAKER_04]: That is clear.

[SPEAKER_03]: Scott Norgard also continued down the criminal path.

[SPEAKER_03]: In two thousand eight, when he was fifty-one, he was arrested for suspicion of delivering heroin.

[SPEAKER_03]: Interestingly, it was reported that he didn't have any drug history.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess the episode from eighty-two hadn't been added to his record.

[SPEAKER_03]: In twenty-ten, Charles faced additional charges for possession and making threats which had been toward parties involved in the investigation, including the district attorney.

[SPEAKER_03]: In May of twenty eleven he was arrested for suspicion of manufacturing and delivering drugs at that time he was seventy eight years old.

[SPEAKER_03]: On August twenty third twenty twelve while awaiting sentencing for the other charges Charles was arrested in the parking lot of a dollars corner store.

[SPEAKER_03]: Police had set it up that they were interested in buying a boat but instead they were sending Charles up river.

[SPEAKER_03]: Eighty-year-old Charles was charged with being a felon and possession of a forty-five caliber handgun and two clips of ammo along with six other firearms.

[SPEAKER_03]: Probably why he wrote to the paper so often about his right to bear arms and shoot at random.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also I think it's he's a good example for why static ninety-nine is garbage because he's eighty years old but he's still creating drugs selling drugs and is armed.

[SPEAKER_04]: Can't wait to get out and continue the life.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, static ninety-nine.

[SPEAKER_03]: official review.

[SPEAKER_03]: Authorities then executed a search warrant on the compound in battleground.

[SPEAKER_03]: There they found other firearms, including a loaded AK-Forty-Seven Rifle with body armor piercing ammo, loaded cap and ball pistols, some heroin and fifty marijuana plants.

[SPEAKER_03]: After the search, a sergeant on the team said, from what we found at the scene and appeared Mr.

Norgard was prepared for defending himself and his property.

[SPEAKER_03]: It makes our apprehension of him away from the home more valuable because a standoff may have been likely had we done so there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was unable to find if Charles was ever sentenced for his wrongdoings in the twenty-tens, even if he had been, he didn't serve much time as he passed away in twenty-fifteen at the age of ninety-two.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana's family believes there have been even more horrifying crimes committed at the compound and by the Norgard family.

[SPEAKER_03]: Once all the Norgards were out of prison, they continued living at the compound and it quickly became a haven for the illicit.

[SPEAKER_03]: Scott moved in along with his drug buddies, their ladies, sometimes even children.

[SPEAKER_03]: For the most part, it was believed the group just spent their time getting high and working on ways to get their next fix.

[SPEAKER_03]: Other allegations presented by Alana's family were that there had been at least two women who had supposedly died by suicide on the property, hanging specifically, which if it is true, though I was unable to substantiate the claim, it would be odd for two people to take their lives in the same way on the same property.

[SPEAKER_03]: Also, it was reported one of the women's boyfriends spoke to a member of Alana's family and felt his girlfriend would have never harmed herself.

[SPEAKER_03]: They also alleged that there had been at least one murder at the compound, and not long after Alana disappeared, a new fire pit had been dug into the yard, and renovations were being done to the house.

[SPEAKER_03]: The work on the house allowed for a search warrant to look for any sign of Alana, cadaver dogs were even brought into the scene, but there were no hits.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that's the story of the compound.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now that we're all educated on the questionable history of the Norgard family and their drug filled and fueled the compound, it maybe makes more sense why people haven't come forward to say exactly what happened to Alana while she was there and why it was concerning to Joyce to receive a call from Scott.

[SPEAKER_03]: For those who most likely know what happened, it's believed they've been warned to not talk to anyone about Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana's family had a contact to inform them that they were ready to come forward and wanted to tell them what happened to Alana.

[SPEAKER_03]: And according to her family, that person wound up dead.

[SPEAKER_03]: If parties involved are dealing in trafficking of all varieties, it would make sense they would want to keep their secret safe.

[SPEAKER_05]: People are afraid to say anything.

[SPEAKER_05]: They have been warned not to talk about her because the people that's involved are very, very bad people.

[SPEAKER_05]: They're not somebody that you want to mess with.

[SPEAKER_05]: And they're dangerous people.

[SPEAKER_05]: There was a couple of people that wound up dead.

[SPEAKER_05]: One of them wanted to tell what they knew about her, what happened to her because they were there supposedly [SPEAKER_05]: And he wound up dead.

[SPEAKER_05]: So many people are afraid for their lives, they're afraid to speak up and I understand that and some of them have got rap sheets, some of them have got words, maybe out for them for something that they did and they're afraid of being put in jail.

[SPEAKER_05]: and they're free to talk.

[SPEAKER_03]: Again, these are all allegations and I do not have proof or evidence to any of these statements.

[SPEAKER_03]: These are the opinions of Alana's family.

[SPEAKER_03]: As the family continued to investigate, they spoke to Alana's ex-boyfriend and some of her friends.

[SPEAKER_03]: Her ex Steve said he hadn't seen Alana in about two years.

[SPEAKER_03]: But after speaking with her friends, it was learned there had been a physical attack on Alana by Steve, not long before Alana disappeared.

[SPEAKER_03]: On this occasion, Alana was planning on meeting up with friends.

[SPEAKER_03]: Before they got there, Steve found her and started to beat her.

[SPEAKER_03]: It took an intervention by some good Samaritans to get him to stop.

[SPEAKER_03]: Alana was okay and her friends eventually got to her.

[SPEAKER_03]: But this was concerning for several reasons.

[SPEAKER_03]: Not only was Steve violent and dangerous, but he was specifically violent toward Alana and he had lied about how recently he had seen her.

[SPEAKER_03]: As for Alana's friends, some were able to share helpful information, like the incident was Steve.

[SPEAKER_03]: Others were unwilling or unable to cooperate and would not respond to Alana's family's calls for help.

[SPEAKER_03]: Looking to get more help from the public, Melissa turned to Facebook.

[SPEAKER_03]: She started by utilizing Alana's Facebook page, which had been signed onto via Melissa's computer.

[SPEAKER_03]: Somalissa messaged any and everyone who had been in contact with Alana, or was on her friendless, to see if they had heard from her.

[SPEAKER_03]: She even started to reach out to friends, of friends, and friends, suggestions.

[SPEAKER_03]: Several responded, saying the family needed to connect with people at the compound, so they did.

[SPEAKER_06]: I started messaging everybody that was on her friends list to see if they'd heard from her.

[SPEAKER_06]: And then I would find people that they said, you know, friends, suggestions and whatever, I would, if they had common friends, I would message them, do you know, Alana, have you seen Alana?

[SPEAKER_06]: And I was able to talk to a lot of people and they all started saying, yeah, you need to go talk to this person.

[SPEAKER_03]: She then took all the information she had about Alana's situation and personal life and created a Facebook page.

[SPEAKER_03]: She dedicated to the search.

[SPEAKER_05]: Melissa, she was more technologically advanced and she helped to put up a page about her disappearance and they have members that join that maybe have missing loved ones of their own that they are looking for.

[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody loved her though.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, every that knew her, the real her not drug addicted Alana, everyone who knew the real Alana [SPEAKER_06]: They always thought she was just the nicest person, the sweetest person.

[SPEAKER_06]: She was so vivacious and charismatic.

[SPEAKER_06]: I took over her for Facebook page.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I've had so many friends with us.

[SPEAKER_06]: I've had to just turn them away.

[SPEAKER_06]: One just came in right now because she was so beautiful.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's like, man, I'm a hover.

[SPEAKER_06]: They're just, you know, saying I'd like to go out with you.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm just saying he was beautiful on the inside.

[SPEAKER_06]: He was.

[SPEAKER_05]: He was an emanated outward.

[SPEAKER_03]: The page has become a place to share memories of Alana and any information that might help garnertips.

[SPEAKER_03]: For some friends, they reminisce about a song that they would enjoy with Alana, or talk about the activities they did together.

[SPEAKER_03]: The page is also a place to celebrate who Alana was as a friend, a daughter, a mother.

[SPEAKER_06]: I found out my dad had me go through his computer.

[SPEAKER_06]: I ended up finding a photograph.

[SPEAKER_06]: And a lot of them are off her kids and her with her son and her daughter.

[SPEAKER_06]: Actually, that's something I should post one of them.

[SPEAKER_06]: I've been posting pictures on the group.

[SPEAKER_06]: I was posting like pictures some of the pictures she took or she also like to make up.

[SPEAKER_06]: She was a theme and she had all kinds of makeup.

[SPEAKER_06]: She post pictures of those and so I told those pictures and posts is like to kind of let people connect with her.

[SPEAKER_06]: Say, OK, this is the stuff that she was passionate about.

[SPEAKER_06]: She posed pictures of like a unique foods that would come out, you're like, and the unique flavors don't at or you are cooking things like that.

[SPEAKER_06]: So she was, you know, like, carry kind of get to know her by what she posted and what she found important.

[SPEAKER_06]: I think I'm going to post, she liked to post poems.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I think that's something that can connect people with her.

[SPEAKER_06]: You can see how she felt inside by what she posted and, you know, the kind of stuff that she was saying to share [SPEAKER_06]: So they're the pretty shoes that she would choose.

[SPEAKER_06]: She looks pretty high heels.

[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, they're the same size.

[SPEAKER_06]: So if I wanted to, I could say those things.

[SPEAKER_03]: It started to seem that for every person the family spoke with, they were given a new story, a theory, or a trail to follow.

[SPEAKER_03]: Some of the thoughts and theories were that Alana had left with someone because they had offered her drugs and then they killed her, and her body would be found at the Oregon Nevada border.

[SPEAKER_03]: One man was going around the group, brazingly sharing his story of throwing Alana out of his moving vehicle.

[SPEAKER_03]: Others claimed she had just run away.

[SPEAKER_06]: And he's like, you don't know or like I do.

[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, well, I know or a whole lot better than you.

[SPEAKER_06]: She would never leave her safety zone.

[SPEAKER_03]: Here's Melissa enjoys talking about some of the rumors they've been told.

[SPEAKER_06]: Everyone that we talked to, if they said, oh, I saw her in September.

[SPEAKER_06]: And so we tried to confirm it with these people that supposedly saw her.

[SPEAKER_06]: And none of them that we actually spoke to could [SPEAKER_06]: confirm that they'd actually seen her it was it was all here say and I'm saying okay can you give me this person's information let me talk to them and I'll see if if what they have to say is legitimate and it never paned out none of the deciding is the only sightings that we had for certain were at the compound where people were admitting that they had seen her there said I saw her there said she been there and that he had supposedly given her a ride I believe it was [SPEAKER_06]: It just didn't, none of it early added up.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, with the stuff that he was saying, it was like he was saying things that we're trying to, you know, make us look elsewhere.

[SPEAKER_06]: Don't look here, go look over there.

[SPEAKER_06]: She took off.

[SPEAKER_06]: She's somewhere in, you know, that or again, or at least she's anywhere better here.

[SPEAKER_06]: Because everyone kept saying, oh, she overdosed.

[SPEAKER_06]: She overdosed.

[SPEAKER_06]: You know, like with the group rent, the body and the trunk thing.

[SPEAKER_06]: And we're just like, well, there's no way that if you overdose, well, why would you dispose of her body?

[SPEAKER_06]: Why would you hide it?

[SPEAKER_06]: Because [SPEAKER_06]: There's obviously you could have just put her body somewhere and someone would have found, is it okay, she overdose.

[SPEAKER_06]: But if you did something to cause the overdose where you provided the drugs, that's still a felony.

[SPEAKER_06]: So it makes more sense that it was felt like, especially if you combine it with what we have, you go, okay, I don't believe that this was an accident.

[SPEAKER_06]: We do believe that she was at least held against her will and that she was killed, our person will believe on that.

[SPEAKER_06]: having the evidence that we do is is definitely something that leads us to that conclusion.

[SPEAKER_06]: And all the stories we're hearing, they all sound like, well, she overdosed because someone gave her something and an overdose.

[SPEAKER_06]: We've heard so many stories.

[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know what to believe.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, [SPEAKER_06]: We have, I wish I could share it with you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

[SPEAKER_06]: I can share it with you.

[SPEAKER_06]: You would be, oh, okay, I can kind of make sense out of that.

[SPEAKER_06]: We feel like the possibility is that she was dead at that time and that everyone that said she we've seen her since then, these are all people in the same community.

[SPEAKER_06]: These are all people that have a motivation to lie because the people that may have been involved are very dangerous people.

[SPEAKER_06]: If you're going to shoot so many over drugs in a drive by it and if you're selling drugs and possibly trafficking human beings, what will you stop at?

[SPEAKER_06]: So these people are afraid of them.

[SPEAKER_06]: We don't care.

[SPEAKER_06]: We have nothing to lose.

[SPEAKER_06]: We are desperate to find information.

[SPEAKER_06]: So we're like, we don't care.

[SPEAKER_06]: We just want to know how the career does the possibility exists that this guy could be involved.

[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.

[SPEAKER_06]: There is no reason to think that he isn't involved.

[SPEAKER_03]: You just heard the ladies mention a man named Luke Grant.

[SPEAKER_03]: There are a lot of stories and it's unclear what all should be believed and what should be taken with a boulder of salt.

[SPEAKER_03]: But before we get into the story of Luke, we're gonna stop here for the end of part one of Alana's story.

[SPEAKER_03]: Next week, we're going to hear all about Luke Grant even more of the theories of Alana's location and what you can do to help Alana's family to spread the word about her disappearance and maybe help solve her case.

[SPEAKER_04]: They'd be able to smell like the weed inside their house from miles away.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure them running away looked like Pepe La Pue, just like a green streak in the air.

[SPEAKER_04]: I can walk into a home and it's like, whoa dude.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you have a joint somewhere.

[SPEAKER_03]: They were huge watering systems and a thriving greenhouse full of cannabis plants.

[SPEAKER_03]: As going to say, sorry to send you off into fantasy land.

[SPEAKER_03]: Repeatedly confirmed that law enforcement officials on August, twenty-third, twenty-twelve while awaiting sentencing for those charges.

[SPEAKER_04]: Get out of your helicopter, chop in the air like a jerk.

[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa.

[SPEAKER_03]: In doing the math, math.

[SPEAKER_03]: Just do the math.

[SPEAKER_04]: Just do the math.

[SPEAKER_04]: Just do the math.

[SPEAKER_03]: How many times I got to tell you?

[SPEAKER_03]: Just do the math.

[SPEAKER_04]: Just do the math.

[SPEAKER_04]: You need to be answered.

[SPEAKER_03]: Do the math.

[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, a smart guy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Do the math.

[UNKNOWN]: you