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Start with Red's Reds Pictures and Catchers report in three days, three days, forty eight days until Red's opening day.

Graham Ashcraft won his arbitration case earlier today.

He'll make one point seven to five million this season.

The Reds had offered him one point two five million.

Scott Barlow, according to Baseball Insider Robert Murray, has reached agreement on a one year deal with the A's one year at two million dollars incentives that could add another one point three million.

Reds catcher Ben Rochevert has been claimed on waivers by the Dodgers.

Technically reclaimed on waivers by the Dodgers.

The Reds had claimed him from the Dodgers this offseason, carried him on the roster to this point, and then the Reds had the DFAM to create a forty man roster spot for Ay and who Suarez, and the Dodger said, all right, we'll take you back.

There'll be a quiz on all this.

A little bit later on, Brent Souter makes it official.

He signs a one year deal with the Angels today.

Best to luck to him all around.

Good dude, I'm gonna miss miss having him here.

College basketball dayton Flyers are at VCU and A ten play tonight.

We will cover the weekend slate later in the Kelsey Chevrolet College Basketball Weekend Preview.

Speaking of hoops, congrats to Ohio State women's coach Kevin McGuff.

He won his five hundredth career game last night.

He coached Xavier women from I want to say, like two thousand and two to twenty eleven.

He is also a nineteen eighty eight Baden High School grat Congrats on number five hundred.

Good news, bad news last night at the NFL Honors.

The good news Louke Keigley, the former San X linebacker, one of five new members the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

His coach, Steve Speckt joins me in less than ten minutes.

Bad news.

No Hall of Fame for former Bengals Kenny Anderson and Willie Anderson.

I have carved out time for us, you and me at six thirty five to talk about that.

Maybe vent certainly express our appreciation for both.

Hall of Fame.

Quarterback Sonny Jergensen, who has helped franchise passing records for both the Eagles and the Washington Redskins for more than five decades, died today at the age of ninety one.

Super Bowl sixty Seahawks Patriots kickoff on Sunday at six point thirty.

Catch it right here on seven hundred WLW.

After discussion with New Brown's head coach Todd Monkin, defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz resigned his position today with the expectation he will not coach this coming season.

He resigns with two years left on his deal.

Said to be miffed over not being named head coach, decided not to stick around with a new head coach named above him.

The Olympics opening ceremonies unfolded this afternoon of Milan, Italy.

Forty one year old Lindsay Vaughan.

I guess should I give a warning, like if you don't want to hear what she did?

It was a trial where like covery years, for like fifteen seconds.

Forty one year old Lindsay Vaughn completed to her first downhill training run today, one week after tearing her ACL.

She placed eleventh out of forty three incredible.

One week after tearing her ACL.

She's flying down the hill and making all these cuts and turns.

High school basketball tonight Lakota Wes seventeen and one, number one in Ohio according to Max Preps, versus Princeton number two, Princeton fourteen and one.

They've moved that one to Sentas Center.

Mike DYRAWCPO dot com reported this morning that over fifty two hundred tickets had been sold.

A cornycopia of college coaches expected to be on hand.

Recruiting tonight.

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What a list?

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The best news of last night's Pro Football Hall of Fame announcement the doors opening for a local product, Luke Keikley class of two thousand and nine, Saint X, one of five that got the call for more on that, Let's go to his high school coach.

We love talking with him.

The coach of the Bombers.

That would be Steve Speck.

How are you, Lance, I'm doing great?

How about that?

Unreal?

How?

What?

When?

And how did you find.

Out the same way just about everybody else in the country they'd watching the uh watching the show and it was so surreal.

Uh.

You know, you go through so many emotions when you see you know, he's he's a grown man now, but I still see him as a high school kid, and you go through so many emotions.

And then I thought to myself, you know, we've had what three He's the third Cincinnati high school football player to get into the NFL Hall of.

Fame, to get a gold jacket.

That is unbelievable because think of all the great players the city has produced, and to have one of three is just it's just so surreal.

In my opinion.

I'm sure that the first time you were around him and you saw him, you didn't think Hall of Fame automatically, but I imagine early on you realized you had something special on Luke Tiagley.

Yeah, there was a meeting.

I had a recruiting meeting with his parents when he was a junior, and I was talking about the levels of level of college schools that Luke could play at, and his mom was saying, he really, you really think he can do that?

And I made a comment, I said, I think he can play on Sundays.

It was but you never know, you never expect your kids.

I just compared Luke a lot to Rocky Boyman, and I'm always comparing kids to try to see hey, maybe maybe not, but you never expect this.

I mean, my gosh, what a what a Stella career.

I thought the NFL was a year late on it.

But I'm biased, Steve.

This is the this is the end result.

But it is fair to say that this was never his goal or reason for playing, to be a Hall of Famer.

Oh God, No, Luke loved the game of football.

Yep.

He played the game because it was fun.

He loved it, and you know I made a comment earlier, the game loved him back everything you're seeing that the Hall of Fame and the accolades, and he could care less about any of that, but it's because of how much he loved that game and what he poured into it.

And that's what we try to teach kids is if you love something, you're gonna give everything you have.

To it, and good things are gonna happen.

Maybe not the Hall of Fame, but good things are gonna happen if you do that.

And it happened for him, and I couldn't be more proud of Luke and his family and his parents and his brothers, and it's just for the community of Saint Javier I suppoted the community of Cincinnati length.

The fact that you're talking about this tonight, it means it's special.

He is.

He is so much more than, as you've eloquently stated, so much more than a football player, a person who's a good dude.

The Art Rooney Award winner in twenty seventeen.

And you've mentioned his parents a couple of times.

Obviously that all ties back to and ties in with the way he was raised by those parents.

Well, no question, I've said it a lot.

Parent I've got my parental hall of fame, and Tom and ii Leen Keighley are right at the top of it because they never cared about how much he played.

They didn't care if he played.

His brother John played for us too.

They said, hey, we just want him to learn and grow and have a great experience.

That's all they ever wanted.

And man, their Hall of Fame parents, and I've had more Hall of Fame parents than I haven't Lance and but the Keighley families, they're right at the top.

Take me back to two thousand and seven State Championship Division one fifteen and Zho tell me about him and the impact he had on that team.

Yeah, it was.

I was doing some I always go back and do cutups of the past year, and I started.

I went back to two thousand and five and I was watching film from five to six seven, just to see what we did defensively, and oh, my gosh, he jumps off the He jumps off the screen on a team WinCE.

He wasn't even a thought going into that.

Year because we returned.

We returned fifteen players that started on defense from two thousand and six.

Luke was a sophomore and then played some tight end and he had broken his ankle, so he didn't.

Play a whole lot.

He wasn't even in.

The mis And you watched the film of all these great it was like, no, wonder the people here the football coach, well, no kid, look at the town I had.

He was like going to roll the ball out and just they go.

So yeah, he he was.

It was on canny how he would track the football and you take it for granted when you coach it.

Because when I went back and I watched a film, I was like, Wow, we had no idea at the time how special he was.

We knew he was awful good, but we didn't know how special.

Have you had a chance to talk with him yet.

Not since I sent him a text.

And I'm sure his text are just getting he's getting crushed with that and phone calls.

But we had a conversation a couple of weeks ago.

He works, he does some work with Greg Olsen.

They coach a youth football program and they do some stuff with mental health.

And I called him because we're looking.

At partnering on a project or trying to partner on a project.

And it was so funny as you and I are.

Talking about him being inducted into the Hall of Fame now and at the time when I called him, he was just talking about these kids, these young kids he was coaching, and how important that was to him.

And it's like that's just who he is.

He's not worried about the Hall of Fame.

Will Will you be in Canton for the ceremonies at August.

Yeah, you'd have to.

You'd have to cut my arm off, o my leg.

You gotta be kidding me for something like this.

Absolutely, just to.

Be to know you played a small role in this journey is pretty powerful, and I would never I wouldn't miss this.

For the world.

Man oh man, what a what a cool story.

Hey, I appreciate you making time, good catching up and great hearing the stories of uh Luke.

Really really cool.

Thank you Lance, thanks for having me on and thanks thanks for all you do for high school sport in the city of Cincinnati.

It means a lot.

Thanks to coach.

Take care, take care right there you go, Steve Speck sat X bombers.

You know I was talking with Tom Gamble early this morning.

Chief first high school football the across our showdown, the high school football event, first player from that event to make the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

How about that for a little side note.

Seven Pro Bowls, led the National Football League and tackles twice, Defensive Rookie of the Year the NFL.

The Defensive Player of the Year in the NFL won the Buckus Award as the top linebacker three times.

Twenty four tackles in a game against the Saints, which tied an NFL record.

He surpassed one hundred tackles in all eight of his NFL seasons.

He's the fifth player since tackles were recorded to reach that mark in eight straight years.

Finished with over eleven hundred tackles, eighteen interceptions, twelve and a half sacks from twenty twelve to twenty nineteen.

Those eighteen interceptions led all linebackers and named the NFL's All Decade Team of the two thousands plus.

As I mentioned that Art Rooney Award for Sportsmanship back in twenty seventeen, and heck, you go back to college and it was the Buckus Award and the Lombardi Award and a three time first team All American.

He led the nation in tackles as a sophomore and did it again as a junior.

He's in the Lar Roses High School Sports Hall of Fame, state championship and one of three.

Think about that from Evendale, the third greater Cincinnati player in the Football Hall of Fame, joining Roger Staubach and Chris kerter Man.

Oh Man.

What a career.

Very happy for him.

When we come back, I'm bummed for Willie and Kenny.

Let's talk Willie, Kenny, what transpired and what you make of it?

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A follow up on that news bottom of the Air.

I was talking with Jack Grumley about this a few minutes before the bottom of the hour news.

Yas Ol Puigue guilty on federal charges of obstructing justice and line to federal officials involving his his involvement with an illegal gambling ey operation, facing up to ten years in prison on one chart, federal prison on one of the charges, at the five years on the other.

He is thirty five years old.

I was joking with Jack, We'll never forget the day he came to town and was introduced.

It was December twenty first, twenty eighteen.

I'm gonna say that was a Tuesday night because Red's Hot Stove that night was in studio and Yasiel Puig came to the station, and I'll never forget how it was brutally cold that day.

I mean, brutally cold and snow on the ground.

I remember thinking of all days to bring Yasiel Puig to town, It's this day came over.

In that gigantic trade, the Reds got Yasiel Puig, Kyle Farmer, Matt Kemp, and Alex Wood.

They gave up Homer Bailey, one of their top prospects at the time, Jeter Downs, and another one of their top prospects at the time, Josiah Gray.

That was a Dick Williams special in the twenty nineteen season, and yasie O Puig played ninety one games for the Reds, twenty two homers, sixty one ribies, fourteen stolen bases, and then at the trade deadline got traded in a multi team trade deal that wound up with the Reds getting Trevor Bauer and the Reds brawled that night the trade had gone through, and the Reds then fought with the Pirates and yasie O Puig was smack dab in the middle of all of it, and Dick Williams was hoping he wouldn't get hurt.

That wasn't part of the plan.

You've been traded.

I don't want you fighting, but it happened.

Uh yasie oh puig man thirty five years old now and facing some rather significant federal charges.

All right, let's do this.

Let's open up the lines.

I want to get your reaction to what is transpired with Kenny Anderson and Willie Anderson at five one, three, seven four nine, seven thousand, one, eight hundred, the big one.

I'm bummed.

I'm really bummed.

I feel badly.

I feel badly for both, more so for Kenny.

Kenny's now seventy six and man.

From my standpoint, when I was ten years old in Anderson Township, thrown to football, I was Kenny Anderson.

And one of the coolest things about being in this business.

Over the years, I've gotten to know Kenny and done interviews with Kenny.

He's been on shows, He's been with me on remotes where he's come up on the stage.

I've been on his podcast before at a time he had a podcast.

We text, not on a regular basis, but I seem to remember he texted me happy Birthday at one point, and I'm thinking, I'm like the kid who grew up wanting to beat Kenny Anderson.

I'm gonna get text from Kenny Anderson, and from that angle it he just so.

And as soon as Roger Craig walked out from behind the curtain last night, my heart sank because I knew he was one of the three in the senior wing of the voting, and if he was gone, I thought, that's probably it.

And I've thought about this, and I've done this so long, with so many players and so many years of voting.

I try, I try not to get angry anymore, because I if I always figure if I get angry, I'm giving the Hall power, and I don't think the Hall deserves the power.

I've come to grips with this, came to grips with this a long time ago, with the Baseball Hall of Fame and Pete Rose.

I don't need the Baseball Hall of Fame of the writers that tell me to tell me Pete Rose is one of the greatest players of all time.

I do have a great resentment for the Hall of Fame changing the rules and taking the decision out of the hands of the writers back in nineteen ninety one.

I believe it was.

But I try not to get upset and angry and rant and rave, because I just I know I watched Kenny's career, I watched Willie's career, I watched Pete's career.

I know how good they were.

I don't need like the validation from the Hall of Fame and a group of writers to say, yeah, you were right, they were good.

Where we're gonna put him in the Hall.

I know they were damn good.

And you know, on one hand, the last pass that Kenny threw was forty years ago.

Think about that.

He retired after the eighty sixth season.

That was forty years ago.

But so much has changed with the game since then.

And I go back to and I think part of it is because so much has changed with the game, how the game is played.

His statistics don't look like others like Drew Brees or others look like and and I think there's a there's a group that can only look at numbers because they didn't see his career and they can't imagine it in the context of that era.

If that makes sense.

I just know this.

You know, I'm a numbers guy.

When he retired in eighty six, he was sixth all time in NFL history in passing yards, sixth when he retired in nineteen eighty six, he was sixth all time in completion percentage all time, only ten quarterbacks had completed more passes when Kenny retired.

He was thirteenth in touchdown passes when he retired, and he was the highest rated passer in NFL playoff history when he retired.

The thing has always bugged me about the Hall of Fame and the years that pass, and how some guys then eventually be come.

And I always joke, well, they last played twenty years ago.

They haven't had any more hits since then.

They didn't win any more games or save any more games since then.

I mean, when he retired, he held the record for the highest completion percentage in a single game, ninety one percent of his passes in a game in nineteen seventy four.

I want to say that was against the Oilers, and he held the record for the highest single season completion percentage in NFL history seventy one percent.

I mean, all of that frozen in that moment.

You can't tell me, at that moment in nineteen eighty six that Kenny Anderson wasn't a Hall of Fame quarterback.

It's just.

He led the NFL pass in passing forty for years four.

He's the only eligible quarterback to win four passing titles that's not currently in the Hall of Fame.

He led the league in completion percentage three times.

That's more than nineteen other quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame.

He led the NFL in passing yards twice.

I mean, think about that.

He wasn't like a four hundred yard per game, you know, gunslinger.

But he led the NFL in passing yards for a season twice.

That's more than fourteen NFL quarterbacks in the Hall of Fame.

He won an MVP, he won an Offensive Player of the Year.

He wont a Comeback Player of the Year.

He won NFL Man of the Year.

He took his team to the Super Bowl.

I can go on and on and on, but I don't need to.

I shouldn't have to.

I don't have to justify how great Kenny Anderson was.

He was a damn good quarterback.

He's a Hall of Fame quarterback.

And I hesitate, and I don't the other thing I don't like about the Hall of Fame.

I don't like making a case for somebody.

And I know I did it by saying, you know, I loved the league in completion percentage three times more than nineteen other Hall of Fame quarterbacks.

I don't like justifying somebody being a Hall of Famer by downgrading somebody else.

I could compare him to Joe Namath, I could compare him to Kenny Stabler, but it, honestly, it wouldn't be fair to those two because there's no comparison.

But I don't think it should be about that.

It shouldn't be about well, you know, Harold Baines is in the Baseball Hall of Fame, and there's great arguments of Harold Baines is in the Baseball Hall of Fame.

I just I don't want to downgrade somebody else to lift up Kenny.

But man, that was tough last night.

And with Willie and Willy's gonna have more chances, I don't.

Honestly, I don't know if Kenny's gonna have another chance.

I hope he does.

He's seventy six.

Willie's automatically a finalist rolled over into next season.

This was Willy's thirteenth year of eligibility.

And offensive lineen are tough because there aren't like counting numbers on offensive lineman like they're on offensive players.

But it just so I thought, at least till the time they are I give you a chance to weigh it.

I avoid him.

What what did how did it?

How did it hit you?

Five?

One, three, seven, four nine?

The Big One?

Newport we go?

Hey, Paul, Heylance as uh As, one of the guys on that show, says, you got me all fired up.

It really is a person like you that got to know Kenny and his family and you can do You said it all, You said it the best.

It all boils down to me.

Is it the process or is it the people who are voting on it.

They can't be that you know, you could use a bad term for what they are, but they can't be that uneducated.

They can't not know the numbers.

So does it really come down to the process of the people voting?

I mean, he hears everything that a Hall of Famers should have, and he's good for the game.

So why Yeah, I just don't get it.

Yeah, Paul, Every time, if I walk down road of this conversation and I turned left and there's the didn't win a super Bowl debate, and I say, well, okay, Dan Foutz never won a super Bowl.

I could give you a list of guys in the Hall of Fame.

I've never won a Super Bowl.

It can't simply be about that.

And then I go down another road and I get this argument.

I say, well, I can't just be about that.

He just it never adds up to me.

No, it never does.

And then the guess who's going to come on about it here soon?

Matt Ryan never won a Super Bowl, shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame then, right, if Kenny can't get in, watch the Matt Ryan get in.

Why should a guy like Cam Newton who's coming up on the Hall of Fame?

Yes, great players, or the voters nowadays just happy with the or just know the new age quarterbacks, Oh I remember Cam Newton, or I remember Matt Ryan.

Oh yeah, he had a good career.

He should be in the Hall of Fame.

But they don't remember Kenny Anderson.

That's if it is comes down to a super Bowl and these new quarterbacks have never won a Super Bowl, should never be in.

Yeah, And the game has changed so much.

I mean in Kenny's a two hundred and fifty yards passing was three hundred was like unheard of most of the time.

And I know today that's so much more commonplace.

But he shouldn't be judged.

He shouldn't that shouldn't be held against him.

He should be judged in the context of his career.

And I watched the quarterbacks of his career.

Kenny Anderson's a Hall.

Of Famer exactly.

Roger Craig got in, right, what did he lead the lead the NFL in did you leave they lead the NFL in any single category at any point in his career?

Or was he just attached to the probably one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time and won a bunch of Super Bowls?

I mean it.

That's why I say, is it the system or is it the people voting on it?

That people voting on it know it?

You know, we know Bill Poland right, he's on the voting committee.

He apparently didn't let Bill Belichick in, but he knows he should know football.

Did he vote against Kenny anders or did vote with Kenny Orson?

Who knows?

It's just frustrated, really, and then I just hope that people, you know, it's every year it's this and it's just frustrated.

Ball hanging there.

Thanks for checking in, Enjoy your weekend.

Thanks all right?

Thank you.

You can hear it in his voice.

I think you can hear it in my voice, and I don't.

I you know, you can say, well, hey, last played forty years ago.

And I wonder if some say on the younger side of the scale of the voting, well, if he was that good, he'd already be in.

I know.

The The talking point is, how how did the NFL Pro Football Hall of Fame voters overlook and screw this up for this long that he's not on the Hall of Fame.

It shouldn't be a strike against him that well, if it's if it's been this long, he's clearly not.

When he retired in eighty six.

I don't know what else to tell you.

I don't know howse you're gonna judge when he stopped playing, when he was unable to throw another touchdown or pass for another year.

When he stopped playing, he was sixth in the history of the league in passing yard, sixth in completion prison eleventh and completions in thirteen in touchdowns.

In what world does that now not head up to Hall of Fame?

Quarterback?

I said I wasn't gonna get upset.

I said I wasn't gonna be angry.

I said, I wasn't gonna let the Hall of Fame have that power over me.

Still frustrating.

Do you think that's right?

Wait till you here's some of the Willie Anderson numbers when we continue.

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All right, Willy Anderson, We'll have to wait at least another year.

Thirteenth year of eligibility.

Thirteenth year of eligibility.

How about these numbers on Willy Anderson block for nine one thousand yard rushers, nine one thousand yard rushers including the Corey Dillon two hundred and forty six yard game all time record as a rookie in two hundred and seventy eight yard game all time in NFL history.

Later broken four consecutive Pro Bowls, first right tackle in over thirty years, in over thirty years, during three consecutive first Team All Pro honors in nineteen ninety nine, two thousand, two thousand and one, three consecutive seasons.

You know how many sacks he allowed?

None?

No sacks allowed over three seasons.

He allowed one sack in his career against nine of the top eleven all time sack leaders in NFL history.

One sack against that group thirteen years of eligibility.

That's a shame.

When we come back, I think there has to be a conversation had about U see basketball and West Miller and last night.

We'll have that after we check news.

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Stay warm, stay inside, relax, We'll have some fun.

We'll add an off the beaten pat topic one hour from now.

If you're just tuning in, welcome, you've been been with us through the first hour.

Thank you.

Steve Speck checked in the Saint X coach talked about coaching.

Luke Keikley, the newest Hall of Famer, got some college basketball and some NFL to get to in this hour.

The off the Beaten Path topic coming up in our second hour.

Let's be oh by the way I show my shoveled my driveway again today.

I'm so tired of shovel like my driveway.

It's another two inches.

What would it cost to like put like a heated driveway?

I if I wanted coils.

Somebody give me an estimate.

If I wanted like coils under my driveway and I just like flip a switch and it would heat the driveway?

Is there such I can't do it.

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It's that stupid crack in our driveway.

You can't get a good running star with a shovel because you keep hitting that damn crack.

Let's begin here this hour.

You see led by fourteen last night with sixteen minutes to go, they lost by five.

They shot thirty six percent from the field.

They scored twenty four points in the second half in losing fifty nine fifty four.

They dropped to eleven and twelve in the season, they dropped to three and seven.

In the Big twelve.

They allowed Hunter Huff to score fourteen straight in a three minute stretch of the second half to rally the Mountaineers fifty nine fifty four to the final up fourteen, lost by five.

There are so many times this year I've read a similar stat up by filling the blank, double digits lost by fill in the number.

But I think the most reveling thing to come out of last night happened after the game.

I want you to take a listen to Wes with Dan and Terry after the game here on seven hundred w OLW.

I'll say this to you guys and to everybody that's listening.

I uh, everybody deserves to be frustrated with us and with me, and uh it ain't okay to me.

I am uh, I'm sorry, it's not okay.

There's no excuse, So I'm I'm sorry to people out there.

We have to finish games.

Uh, that's the responsibility of coaching at this program.

And I'm really I'm really sorry.

I promise everybody out there, you deserve to be frustrated.

Say what you say or whatever, uh you deserve it.

I promise you.

I'm giving every part of my soul to this thing, and I care deeply about this program.

And it ain't okay.

So I don't want anybody to think I think it's okay.

It's not, and people deserve to be frustrated.

Nobody is more frustrated with the results than I.

Wes Miller after the game.

This is not going to be a fun conversation.

It's not what I'm really comfortable having.

But the reality is, you see, basketball is at a point of no return.

This situation is untenable.

That postgame almost heartbreaking.

But this isn't about if anybody wonders if Wes Miller cares about the program.

It's about the fact he's overwhelmed by all of this.

And I don't want to make light of this, but there needs to be an intervention.

He's spiraling.

You heard him, You've heard him lately.

You see has got to go ahead and negotiate a buy out with him.

Now those around the program know it, they talk about it.

He can announce he's stepping down health and personal reasons.

Whatever the press release says, you can't wait until the end of the season when the buyout drops again.

The only thing waiting does is further damage the program and shrink the pool of candidates.

I don't recall a coach or manager in this town with such a combination of immaturity and insecurity.

He's not equipped to handle this, let alone fix it.

This isn't about whether or not he cares about the program, or whether or not you believe he's pouring his soul into this and trying hard.

As Yoda once said, there is no try do or do not, and he's not.

And if you have any wonder why his team struggles to handle pressure in close games, listen to him.

He's all over the place emotionally.

He's a roller coaster.

You've heard the old saying about a team taking on the persona of its coach.

He is tight and frazzled.

His players play tight and frazzled when it matters.

This is not getting better.

We're one hundred and sixty four games in.

It is what it is.

He's flailing.

Last year it was we're coming and if you're not on board, we don't want you.

One game this year, it was sniping at Dan and Terry, and then he was apologizing to him in his next Coaches show.

One postgame, it was ranting about not hearing or caring about the outside noise.

The next it's about hearing all the noise and declaring it us against the world.

He's been told it to tune it down, tone it down.

This past weekend he declared he hates excuses.

Then he proceeded to whine about traveling three time zones.

Last night it was about granting fans the right to be frustrated.

Well, thank you.

They can't wait until Final four weekend.

The next buyout drop comes after March thirty.

First the buyout dollars drop in half.

They can't wait until the week before the Final Four to start finding the next coach, negotiate a breakup amount.

It won't be all that he wants, It won't be all in a perfect world that they owe him.

But if we're being realistic, he needs out of this situation.

He himself, forget about the job of you see basketball and what we think of the program.

He If you've heard the same thing I've heard lately from West Miller.

He needs out of this for his own well being.

Let him leave.

Let him leave with some grace and get help.

If I was exhibiting the behavior pattern that he has been exhibiting this year, I would hope my friends would pull me aside and say, hey, you might need to step away from this.

Players deserve the next six weeks to just play and then do what needs to be done.

Transfer go on their way, whatever the case may be.

Let everyone start healing.

Everything starts fresh, because this brand of you see basketball is embarrassing.

I don't feel I find it hard to feel badly for Wes when he walks from here.

He's gonna get four or five million dollars.

I don't feel bad for people who are gonna walk away with that dollar amount and he'll coach again somewhere.

He just can't coach here anymore.

It's an untenable situation.

And if we are being honest, once this is done with Wes, if I were President Pinto and the Board of Trustees, I would be negotiating the buyout to move on from John Cunningham because you simply can't afford to allow him to make the next hire.

You just can't all of this is going to cost a lot of money.

But right now this is costing you see all of its support from fans and alums.

It's time now, this isn't a It'll be time at the end of the year.

It's untenable and it's clearly not good for Wes, and it's clearly getting worse for Wes.

Did what you just heard?

Did that sound like the words from a leader of young men.

He's spiraling, help him get him out of this situation.

I thought.

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All right, let's jump into some phone conversation, man.

I mean the the immediate string of texts last night and the exchanges I had with UC fans, lums, U, CAT members, my dad's a UCT member, former players, you name it, and just the the tone of where this is now last night.

I don't think last night was a like the end, the deal breaker for anybody.

This last night I don't think changed anybody's mind.

I think the UC community has wanted a different coach for a long time.

This is the fifth year.

Last night wasn't a deal breaker on state or go.

But to me, listening to West in the postgame, I think there should be a raised level of concern for his well being.

With the swing of emotions from one game to the next and what he said last night, breaking into tears, he's just not dealing with this.

Well.

I don't think he's capable of dealing with forget fixing it.

I don't think he's capable of dealing with this.

And I think those close to him should be concerned from that standpoint.

And that's why, Yeah, you could argue, well, why would he why with the buy out the way it is, when he walk away.

I would worry him having to deal with this the rest of the year.

I don't think it's fair for the players to have to deal with that the rest of the year.

Currently, adults in the room, be it the athletic director, the agent, and Wes can say all right, look, this didn't work.

We know the contract says this.

Neither side wants to wait until after March thirty first for the buyout to drop in half.

Let's just do this now.

Let's reach a common ground here.

Wes, you step down, say you're gonna You're gonna focus on you.

We wish you the best of luck.

You'll coach some playoffs place else at some point down the road.

But right now, this this can't continue.

It just can't for his well being and the well being in the program.

Out to the phones we go Westchester.

Hey, Bob, you were on seven hundred WLW.

Hi Lance, Hey, I was.

One of the things I wanted to mention was he does have the option to resign.

So if he goes through his own well being, why doesn't he well?

But would you would you resign and walk away from right now?

As of today, nine point nine million dollars.

Personally, I wouldn't.

But if he's worried about his own well being.

You should.

Well.

I don't know that he is.

I think everybody should be worried for him.

That that's my point.

I don't think he knows.

I think he's he's flailing enough to try to fix this.

But what I hear and see from one game to the next from an emotional standpoint has to be very concerning.

I would think you see has enough psychological people there that can say the guy's having little issues and maybe you need to take a medical break.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I know they've told him he's probably best serve toning things down, and he tried that and then yeah, nothing's working.

I'm not a fan.

I'm I'm a fan.

I'm not an alum.

But he hasn't been a good fit for them for a couple of years.

Now.

I feel bad.

Yeah, thank you for the call.

I mean the reality is he was a coach at a low mid major for a decade.

He was never a fit here to begin with.

That's a John Cunningham call, and he made the wrong call.

Mount Carmel, we go, Harry, You're on seven hundred wlw.

Oh, I asked great programs always he was a basket case.

Got a basket case.

I know, would go say, Harry, you know you need to move on, you need to let let it go.

But this is a house that Huggins built.

Okay, seriously, I mean I know what you're I know what you're thinking.

But what they did the hug You know, Huggins had problems, but you know the way they treated him and railroaded out of they're all he did for UC.

Well.

But I mean, but Harry, that was twenty five years ago and we're administrations later.

I mean, that has nothing to do with today.

I know, I know, but to me, to me, it really it kind of does the way I mean.

We'll come any success unsuccessful coaches.

Really has gone as far as Huggins ever since I got Ruddy that USC is hired well, I.

Mean they've had Mick and they've had John, and they've had Wes.

Yeah, I mean, Mick took him to the tournament nine straight years.

So I mean, don't don't make it about Huggins.

If this program is gonna go forward, it can't be about Huggins.

It's got to be about what's in the best interest of the program.

Oh yeah, yeah, I agree with you that.

I don't know.

That's that's that's always stuck in my crowd the way you know they did him.

I mean, if you're gonna fire somebody, do the face, don't hire somebody completely out of town a woman to come in and do your do your job for you.

As far as the board of trustees, that was always wrong to me.

I got you, Harry, thank you for checking in as well.

I mean, now let's be I mean, that was twenty one years ago.

There are there are much bigger fish to fry and much more important things to deal with.

And that's Wes Miller.

You See's problems.

They're not Bob Huggins being fired twenty one years ago.

You see's problems are a coach right now that's incapable of fixing this problem, and who is flailing and as of today has a buy out of nine point nine and if they wait till after March thirty first, it only drops to four point six million that they would owe.

There's got to be a middle ground in the best interest of everybody.

They can't possibly wait till March.

After March thirty first, that's a week out from the final four.

Wes, I don't think can be put through this the rest of the season.

I don't think it's fair to him.

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Jeremy during the break sends the updated numbers.

He says, speaking of Wes and coaching, tight and frazzled in late game situations, and he added inability to make adjustments.

How about these numbers in the West Miller era, when you he trails at halftime, they're thirteen and forty five.

When they trail with ten minutes to go, they're seven and fifty three, When they trail with five minutes to go, they're three and fifty nine, and when they trail with two minutes to go, they're one and sixty.

Good golly, Franklin, we go and Jeff, you were on seven hundred WLW Jeff, Hello, Hello, welcome to Sports Talk.

Sorry so you said, Jim, no go ready ahead?

Well, I was thinking about Wes and how obviously overwhelmed the poor guy is.

I think about all these coaches in Cincinnati history that maybe weren't up to the job Gray Night, heah, maybe maybe even David Bell, Ryan Price, But I've never heard one actually come out into a press conference or a post game and actually confess that they weren't up to the job.

That's got to be a first to basically come out out and say I can't do it.

Not able.

That was close to a cry for help as I've ever heard from a.

Coach that that is the way to put That's how I felt when I heard it.

It sounded like a cry for help.

I can't do this any longer.

He was cracking into tears, and I just, on one hand, I want to feel badly for him.

On the other hand, I realize he's getting five million one way or another out of all this, so I really don't.

But it's just a really difficult situation that he knows no way out of.

Overwhelmed is the perfect world.

I think I will remember the the West Miller era is one that he was simply overwhelmed by.

Yeah, I think he's taken the program to I guess I'm old enough to remember it, but pre Huggins level.

Yeah, and I don't know.

The whole has been dug so deep now and you gotta figure there will be one way or another, there's going to be a different coach next year, and that's probably an entirely new roster.

So you're starting over again.

And it's just this is five years.

This is five years of digging a hole, and it's not gonna it's not going to come back easily.

And you know it's gonna be with nil and transfer portal, which all kind of saint if you if you bring in an ad hopefully a staff that can handle transfer portal and I own money.

Yes, you're going to have a new roster almost every season anyway.

Yes, that's a good point.

Yeah, if you've got somebody who can nail it, it does allow for a quicker turn around.

That's that's a fair point.

Well, it's for the best.

Amen to that, Jeff, Thank you, enjoy your weekend.

Thank you for checking in.

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Tomorrow night, Miami RedHawks shoot for twenty four and oh they are at Mershall.

That's part of the Max Sunbelt Challenge.

It is a sellout in Huntington Tomorrow four o'clock tip NKU North try to snap five game losing streak.

They host Milwaukee at five.

Jim Kelch and Rick Brewering have the call on Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

Kentucky's hosting Tennessee at eight thirty.

Catch it on fifteen ESPN fifteen thirty.

The Wildcats.

We'll be wearing throwback retro uniforms from that ninety five ninety sixteen Louisvilles at Wake Forest, Indiana's home to Wisconsin.

Purdue welcomes Oregon.

Also, Wright State plays host to Purdue Fort Wayne.

The Ohio Bobcats are at Old Dominion.

Sunday's Action Bearcats hosting UCF two o'clock tip.

Right here on seven hundred WLW at Ohio State hooks up with Michigan in Columbus.

All right, let's do this before we do that, and a couple of Super Bowl thoughts.

But first let me go to West Side.

Hey David, welcome to seven hundred WLW.

Good evening, Lambs, how are you?

I'm well?

How about you?

What's on your mind?

Good Brent, come over and show of my driveway too, since you've got all the Hey I want?

I always just I listened to you all the time I was gonna give you.

I gave you a high five.

I gave you a virtual high five.

I love what you said and saying it.

I don't want at John Cunningham, Willie Cunningham's brother, choosing this, choose choosing this coach.

I just it scares me to death because what I told you a guy that was screening, we gotta go big.

I mean, I'm just do a name out there.

I love if we could get Bruce Pearl or somebody.

If we don't get a really good coach, we're gonna be in purgatory.

For a long time.

Yeah.

I think you're right.

It's they've got to nail the higher, no doubt.

And I just I have no confidence John Cunningham would nail any higher.

I agree with you, he already he got two no names for one for football, one for basketball.

And we I hate being mediocre.

I want to get Cincinnatty back to the fickle and cronin.

Days when we were winning.

And you know, hey, it was a lot more fun, that's for sure.

And I felt bad for West.

Last night too.

Hey.

Enjoy your weekend hanging there with the weather, all right.

K you too?

All right, thank you you you know I looked it up.

Uh, and I'd love Man, the agent who negotiated Wes's deal and John Cunningham's deal.

If John Cunningham is fired before June thirtieth, he's owed three point two million, that's the athletic director.

If he's fired after June thirtieth, they owe one point six million.

Holy buy out Batman.

By the way, I don't have time to make this a topic, but I do this.

I make sure I bring this up every two years to keep it in fresh in everybody's mind.

And again, I don't have time to make it a topic, but I've always wanted this to be tried just one time.

And my crusade every two years is for a Super Bowl Saturday night and it's on Sunday, because that's the way it's always been, and I've always argued that times change and it's time to move the biggest game in sports.

If you say it out loud, super Bowl Saturday Night, it has a nice ring to it.

You have to admit it.

And if you move the super Bowl to Saturday night, the adults wouldn't have to worry about leaving a Super Bowl party early in order to get to bed to get to work the next day.

Think of the joy of waking up on Sunday morning after a Super Bowl party rather than on a workday on a Monday.

You can cite all the surveys how little work gets done on Monday anyway, the number of people who call in sick.

The Super Bowl is just a production a productivity killer when it is played on a Sunday and people have to work on Monday.

And I know every time I bring this up, people say, well, Lance, you obviously don't understand the TV ratings game, and the ratings will take a hit if you move the game to Saturday night.

Do you honestly think people won't watch the Super Bowl on a Saturday night?

And I know I will get cries and well, but all the people will be watching the Super Bowl at a bar, and it will hurt the calculation of the ratings.

The NFL is already struggling to try to figure out how to handle and count viewership on phones and tablets, and it's sports bars already.

I mean, the NFL plays games on Monday, they play them on Thursday, they play them on Sunday, they play playoff games on Saturday night.

They could play a super Bowl on a Tuesday at lunch hour and people would watch it.

They're always trying to expand their reach.

You know, if the super Bowl finishes, say eleven o'clock on Sunday night, that means pick the British.

They would have to stay up until around four am on Monday to watch the super Bowl live.

Don't be afraid to change, don't be afraid to experiment.

What do I always say?

What my kids?

They're rolling their eyes right now?

Oh here he comes with me?

What's the downside?

What would be the downside?

To try one time, one year, super Bowl Saturday night and if it bombs, you know what?

I would even offer guarantees to advertisers who are worried going in, say well, well, let's work on a little contingency deal here.

If it doesn't turn out, we'll adjust and we'll go back to it the following year.

One time, one time.

Just close your eyes say it, super Bowl Saturday night.

My every two year crusade is now done.

Well, head down the stretch.

I love.

I went down the rabbit hole on this to make sure I'm updated, and I found thirty seven Believe it or not, and boy does this speak to the area.

If you count all the Greater Cincinnati Northern Kentucky high school football players that won a Super Bowl ring, would you believe that total is now at thirty seven.

I'll give you some of the names on the list.

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Tonight on the road fifty to twenty seven, Think off the beaten path topic eight oh six.

I want you to think TV.

He I want you to think sports shows TV sports shows.

Further explanation.

I think this will work.

I'm proceeding with it despite the hesitation from UC Chris, but I did uh.

I did a lot of pre work on the topic, and I gave it a trial run earlier today on my Facebook page on Lance MacAllister Sports Talk, and indications are it would work.

Tonight we'll find out.

It's always up to you.

Let's go to Dell High and Mark you were on seven hunterd wlw Welcome.

Lance, Thank you so much.

Hey, I was going to call in a little bit ago, and then you started on the super Bowl thing.

Yes, real quick on the super Bowl, real real quick on the Super Bowl thing.

But I'm going to talk about Bearkatz.

I'm not disagreeing with you totally.

But no other.

Championship is on a Saturday, right, so everything's on a Monday, the college stuff, everything else.

I think it would take some things away from it, but I'm not I'm not unopen to it.

I think I would still go to dinner and bet it and then watch the end of it.

West Miller.

Yes, oh yes, so West Miller.

I'm a.

Everybody talks about how big a fan they are, you know we I mean, I was a Bearcat fan.

I was born in sixty two, So after that I followed the seventies with Cummings, and then I got into Tony Yates three and twenty eight, and he cheated, she cheated and went three and twenty eight.

So for the last fifteen years, me and my five friends hop in a minivan.

We've got season tickets.

When we were driving home last night, we were quiet.

We looked at each other and we said, oh my god, this guy needs help.

So you said the same thing we thought, and I thought to myself, I said, we can't even boo this guy anymore.

And I know it's a perfect storm.

Right.

You take a big major league city like us and you put us in the A twelve with a bunch of little, tiny cities that only have big giant college programs.

We knew it was going to be a failure for a while, right.

Luke Fickle leaves for a good reason.

He knew he wasn't going to succeed.

So I don't blame all the coaches, but everything you just said about the buyouts of both of these Cunningham and West, make perfect sense.

Yeah, it's it just it's sad that it came to this, But that doesn't change the fact it can't keep going on.

It's got to end.

There's got to be a break.

Wes has got to get he's got to be extracted from this situation for his well being.

And I think it's only fair to the players that they play with some freedom and pick one of the sixteen assistants to be the interim the rest of the year.

Just let them.

Hell, they got eight games left.

Let them each each assistant coach at half in the remaining eight games.

But they just need to change this for the final eight to cleanse it and start over.

Yes, and Lance, we say the same thing.

We sit behind this, we're in the second level, we sit right behind the bench in like first couple of rows, and we're like, look at all the coaches.

They had two coaches per every player.

It's again, whatever, Yes and West seems like he is.

He is a deer in headlights from the five minute mark down.

Yes, and there's no there's no reason to do anymore.

Let's do what you said.

Let's let's make sure he leaves without mental issues or any other fault or whatever.

Nine million, big deal.

We got fifty four thousand students and that's in that university.

Now when I went, it was a lot at thirty two thousand.

So we think it's time to just do exactly what you said.

And I'm so appreciative that you brought it up.

Mark, I'm appreciative of you listening and taking the time to call on jury your weekend.

All right, all right, thank you, an all right, thank you.

On a final UC note, I'd give you one name to just do some homework on over the weekend.

Jared Calhoun.

Just spend some time on Jared Calhoun this weekend, and maybe we can talk next week.

I came up with a list the Greater Cincinnati Northern Kentucky high school football players that have a Super Bowl ring.

I came up with thirty seven players.

Thirty seven, I mean from and I've got two quarterbacks.

I've got Roger Staubach and I've got Jared Lorenzen.

I've got a running back in Spencer Ware two Super Bowls.

I've got a full back in Mark Edwards.

I got a wide receiver in Greg Gorton Hubert height.

I extend a little, I extend geographically a little to fit this.

I've got four tight ends from Brent Selek to Don Hasselbeck to Jake Ballard to Michael Matthews.

I've got an offensive line.

I've I've got a couple of tackles.

I've got five guards.

I'm missing a center.

Here's what I don't have on this team.

And this team is charted out at seven hundred WLW dot com on my blog if you want to look at it.

Man the linebacker position headlined by my guy Rocky boy Man.

I've got eleven linebackers.

With a Super Bowl ring and that includes Jack Hacksaw Reynolds and Dick and Edwards and Marty Moore and Jordan Love and on Andre Fraser, on and on and on.

I do not have a center, a punter, or a long snapper.

I've got a coach, we Bu Banks Richmond, Indiana.

Again, I'm I'm extending a little bit geographically.

I've even got three one championships pre Super Bowl era with NFL championships with Steve Junker Elder and Art Mergenthal, Saint X and Bob I think it's Hornschmeier Elder I probably urt.

Yeah, it came close on it.

I've got four tight ends.

I've got three safeties.

They've got three corners.

I've got three defensive linemen.

It's an incredible list for this area.

I just don't have a center, long snapper, or punter.

It's really frustrated.

I got a kicker, Jim O'Brien, super Bowl MVP ach in high school and just don't have three spots to fill on this team.

And it's really bugging me.

All Right, we come back to the off the beaten path topic.

I'll explain afternoons, but I want you to think, I want you to think streaming services, frustrations, sports shows and programming Afternoons RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

The following takes place between eight pm and nine pm.

All right, let's do this Friday night eight o'clock off the beaten path.

Topic time concept, very simple, the topic that we can have some fun with.

It is it light and fun and nobody wants to rant and rave at eight o'clock on a Friday night after a long week in trouble on the driveway today like me, so I always try to find a topic that is related to maybe sports, TV, music, movies, food, I love list.

There's a lot of stress and panic into deciding on one of these topics from week to week.

My wife would vouch for that.

I walk around the house and I got nothing.

I got another of a Friday night.

Now, this one is a little bit concerning because I floated this idea that you see Chris, and he initially, while not rejecting it, didn't fully sign off.

And yet I sat with Kelly and I worked out this topic with her.

I said, what am I missing here?

What can I add here?

And then I said, all right, I'm going to give it a trial run, and I posted it on my Facebook page earlier this morning, Lance Pacallister sports Talk.

If you follow, thank you.

We have a blast in that.

Sometimes it drives me crazy, but we have a blast in that Lance Pacalister Sports Talk, and it seemed to take off.

I always say the off the beaten path topic is completely and totally up to you.

I just present the idea.

You decide whether you're gonna take it and run with it or kick its of the curb.

Here's what I want to try tonight.

I want and I know there is a growing frustration with the sports streaming industry that is out of control.

And I know that the REDS television side of things is now in great debate and hand ringing going on.

And where are they're gonna go and how much is gonna get cost and how much?

How do I find it?

It's an app or is it?

What I want to do tonight is I want to take control of the sports streaming industry.

I want us to create and program our own channel.

We'll call it SNN Sports Nostalgia Network.

Now there's no games on this TV channel, just TV shows from the past.

I put together a twenty four hour programming guide filled with these shows.

There are some fantastic blasts from the past, and the idea would be, Man, I'm tired of all this stuff, but that now you're talking you you give me the you give me SNN.

I will pay to add SNN, the Sports Nostalgia Network, because it would be a chance to watch shows from the past.

I'll give you an example from my lineup, and then I want examples to add to our programming of this twenty four hour day.

At seven o'clock at night, we're gonna air Coach, the sitcom Craig t.

Nelson and Luther and Dabber and the Minnesota Screaming Eagles and what was the way Annette Faberge?

Maybe I just made that name up.

What was his wife's name?

You know who I'm talking about.

The show Coach be on our program at guide seven o'clock at night.

You know it's on at nine o'clock on s n N.

The White Shadow, Ken Howard, Fantastic Basketball Show, Coolidge Salami, Morris Thorpe.

You know what I slotted in At ten thirty at night, we're gonna get Classic George Michael Sports Machine, Shelley Fabrae, that's there, you go, Thank you.

Russ Jackson.

Ten thirty at night, I think it's time for some George Michael Sports Machine.

I just want to see him standing there in a coat and tie and holding his clipboard in that big machine next to him, and I don't want him to press a button and start giving his highlights of the day.

Just it'll be a random like that.

It'll be October fifth of nineteen eighty nine, The George Michael Sports Machine and the ten thirty block tonight, and then the next night at ten thirty, it'll be another episode of the George Michael Sports Machine.

You know why I put it twelve thirty in the morning because it was a little bit I don't want to say raunchy, but I'll push it past midnight because it got a little u and so much so that George Grand refused to say the full name of it.

I have programmed at twelve thirty every morning the best damn Sports Show period.

Remember George Grand would never say damn.

He would just say best sports show period.

That show had Chris Rose and John Cruck and John Sally the NBA or John Cruck the baseball player and Rob dibble Right, it was Dibbel Dibbel.

Tom Arnold was on that too.

Was it all five of those guys?

Or they was Cruck on that show?

Or am I all right that?

I mean that panel and the things they talked about and the fun they had.

Imagine tuning in every night.

I'm not going to bed yet.

I gotta watch a classic episode of the best damn sports show period at twelve thirty or are you watching that SNN?

What the heck is SNN?

It's that New Sports Nostalgia Network at seven point thirty every morning, because starting the day should be like highlights of what took place the night before.

At seven point thirty every morning, you gonna be able to watch an old edition of Sports Center with Rich Eisen and Stuart Scott Cool as the other side of the pillow later on in the morning.

Who doesn't like a good sports trivia show?

I have programmed at eleven a m.

Stumped the Schwab.

Do you remember ESPN Stumped the Schwab.

It was the guy who knew everything and people tried to stump him, hence the name.

At Noon Perfect Lunchtime.

At noon, you're gonna flip on SNN Sports Nostalgia Network, and you're gonna get an episode every day of the Wide World of Sports, and you're gonna hit Dun Dun d D day and you're gonna see the guy going down the hill on the on the skis and he's gonna wipe out spanning the globe and you're gonna see like the Globetrotters for an episode, and then you're gonna see You're gonna see like a barrel jumping in, and you're gonna see like a boxing match.

And day to day it's gonna change.

But the noon hour is locked in with the Wide World of Sports.

You know what I plugged in at three in the afternoon.

Do you remember the Superstars Superstars on ABC?

They picked athletes from various sports and pitted them against each other in competitions like smoking Joe Frazier and Kyle Wrote Junior and athletes from Steve Garvey, athletes from all different sports, and they get together and they'd like have a bicycle race, they'd run, they'd swim, and you got points in all these categories.

Every afternoon at three, if you tune into SNN, you're gonna get the Superstars.

You just had a show pop into your head.

Say, wait a minute.

If you're gonna program that network twenty four hours day, this show has got to be on.

What's that show?

Five one, three, seven, four nine, seven thousand, one eight hundred, the Big One?

You know what?

I put it?

Four thirty in the morning.

If you can't sleep, little insomnia.

Four thirty in the morning, American Gladiators four thirty every morning.

Maybe you're an early riser.

American Gladiators at eight thirty every morning.

Sterling will appreciate this.

Sterling's probably in his car on the way to the station right now.

You know what, You're gonna get it?

Eight thirty every morning.

PPA Professional Putt Putt.

You remember Saturday mornings the Professional Putt Putt shows, the real Orange guardrails and at the end, the big giant paper check cardboard check to the winner.

You're gonna get classic pp A Professional Putt Putt every morning from eight thirty to nine.

You get the idea you'd pay for this channel.

You may not like streaming, you know, like, I can't keep all this stuff straight.

How many channels are there?

How much do I have to pay for another platform?

This one?

Will be worth paying for.

We'll keep it a nominal fee early on.

Hey, that's a good deal for these Sports Nostalgia Network.

What channel is that?

Can I give you one more?

One more?

This one.

I went running into my into the family room to Kelly and I said, wait a minute, I got one more because I'm programming the twenty four hours on this sheet of paper and I'm down to I've got an open slot, and my open slot is at eight am.

I said, think of something that was early morning a sports show that we could plug in there over the years, and I said, wait a minute.

What was the name of the workout show with the Woman on the Beach on ESPN that became wildly popular?

And Kelly said, Keana's Flex Appeal.

You know what we're programming at eight o'clock every morning on the Beach, classic episodes of Keana's Flex Appeal workout show on the Sports Nostalgia Network.

We are cooking.

Now, What have I left out?

What can we plug in?

Oh?

I just thought of one I don't even have on my list.

Take a time out of come back Stump the Schwab.

I would be so into watching Stump the Shrup every morning at eleven o'clock and there is something old school to just the George Michael Sports machine and hitting that button and it would look so like why like so basic?

Today watching a classic episode where it was just a button and he hit the button and then the machine would start turning in the lights would light up, and then he would show you highlights of the day that was fantastic.

Your calls are next.

It's RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW.

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This is ABC's Wide World of Sports.

O.

That hair is standing up on my arms.

What are you watching?

Well, it's noon, I'm watching Wide World of Sports.

What channels that on?

Oh, it's on that new streaming service they created, the Sports Nostalgia Network.

You know what I put because I I figured, if we're gonna do twenty four hours, it can't just be baseball, football, basketball, So I like included it was a pope pirie Like at one thirty in the morning, I've programmed HBO Boxing after Dark with classic Jim lambplay and Larry Merchant bouts at two o'clock each morning, two am, I've got classic NHL Tonight or Hockey Night in Canada shows at two thirty The American Sportsman.

See this will be a well rounded channel.

At five am, I paid tribute to bowling with King of Bowling.

I want Jack Moran, I want Richard Skinner hosting some of those classic episodes.

And because bowling should be more than a half hour on this network.

At nine am every day it's bowling four dollars on the Sports Nostalgia Network.

We go to Fort Thomas.

Bill, what can we add to the programming?

Hey, Lambs, how are you fantastic?

What do you got?

Buddy?

You're my favorite radio guy here in towner of a similar age.

But shame on you for not number one on the list.

Okay, and I can sum it up.

For you with just two musical notes.

Now for the record, time for twim notes.

For the record.

I have programmed in at one o'clock every afternoon this week in baseball.

Thank you, my friend, have a great all right, thank you?

See that's good now?

You know what?

And I figured we need some interview shows, and I programmed at four o'clock up close with Roy Firestone and maybe rotating with Chris Myers.

Remember the ESPN up Close interview format, they just had one guest on the set sitting in a chair across from each other.

Roy Firestone would like always make people cry in these And Roy Firestone was on my show once in Chicago, on the TV show I did.

I'll never forget.

He came in.

He had a book he was promoting, and he was addressed to the nines.

And as we sat down, he asked the floor director.

He says, can I can I get a one shot of me?

He wanted to see himself in the camera so we could check his makeup.

I'll never forget that, because he wanted to check in the lighting how his makeup looked before the interview began.

But I had Roy Firestone on the said, so Roy Firestone four o'clock every afternoon up close on sn N.

How about Dayton we go?

Hey, Pat, welcome to sports Talk?

Hey, Hey, what's up?

Lances wanted to bring up one of my favorite shows, Cheap Seats.

I don't you know if you remember that show with the bar Bar Brothers, and it was kind of like the original.

John Boy yeah, it was on it.

They would make fun of like the Hula Bowl from nineteen eighty eight, or Putt or Putt putt or something, and I and I used to love that show.

And I just always remember whenever a guy would go in motion during the hula Ball, they'd go, I want to be yours and it would crack me up.

And I just love that show.

I hope it's on there.

Oh that's beautiful.

You know what.

I'm adding that to the programming sheet.

You are the man.

Have a great weekend.

All right, alright, all right, thank you.

You know what else I have that's good?

I did not have cheap sheets, sheets, seats.

I'm gonna add that.

I'm also into the nostalgia.

I think if we're gonna do this right, you need like Sports Center type highlight shows throughout the day that kind of take you back to a certain era where you can see highlights.

So I think you've got to go with the classic eleven o'clock at night.

To me, the essence of Sports Center was Dan Patrick and Keith Oberman.

So my eleven o'clock block every night is a classic Oberman and Dan Patrick.

At the same time, my seven Am I loved CNN Sports Tonight with Nick Charles and Fred Hickman.

I thought Nick Charles and Fred together what a tannement and their writing was so incredible.

So I've got a tag team.

Every morning at seven am, We've got CNN's Tonight Highlights from Nick Charles and Fred Hickman, followed at seven thirty by Rich Eisen and Stuart Scott, like a double team back to back.

At nine thirty in the morning, I put because we're going to start our talk shows the later in the morning, we go some talk shows.

So Cold Pizza, remember Cold Pizza Jay Crawford, And Jay Crawford was from Ohio University, I think, wasn't he?

And he did it with a woman and I see her face right now and I can't think of it.

But I'm bringing back Cold Pizza for the nine thirty slot.

You know, I'm going to put Early Morning.

If you're an early riser, at five thirty.

Every morning is going to be classic home run Derby from the sixties, the one where like Hank Aaron would square off against the like uh Willie Mays or something, and and the winner with the host of it I think was from Cincinnati.

It only lasted for a year.

They filmed him in California and the winner got a check for like one thousand dollars.

And like Willi or Mickey Mannon would beat Willie Mays and will had come over and sit with him.

I think his name was Mark something.

Now that's gonna bug me.

And he'd get a check and he'd say, well, how'd you do today, Mick?

He says, well, hits them well today?

And Classic Black and White five thirty every morning?

Did I say five thirty?

Yes?

Now at six thirty, we're gonna go back to a sitcom Hang Time Deerfield High We could rotate between the during high school basketball team that was coached by Dick Buckus and the one that was coached by Reggie Theus.

It rotated, and the one of their best players there was Julie.

One of their best players was what's his name?

He was in the Shield, he's in the TV show Blackish.

Oh, And.

Anthony Anderson was on Hangtime Russ Jackson delivering the name.

Yes, so there you go.

So we're we're cooking.

Oh, now, wait a minute, I think there is a case to be made for adding this genre of sports.

Let me go to him and row.

Oh, Wayne, what are we adding to?

Oh?

Oh oh, I gotta go to news.

Hang on, hang on, Wayne, Hey, hang on there, I'm way late.

Look at that.

I'm getting all excited.

I'm already a minute and a half past.

Oh I'm sweating, so I get to check on news than more of our programming.

It's our no carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevallet seven hundred WLW, and we have created our own programming for our own channel.

We're calling an SNN Sports Nostalgia Network No Games because we wouldn't have the rights to re broadcast the games.

We're just picking classic shows and we're plugging those into a twenty four hour block.

And I'm very conscious of what we're putting at what part of the day, like late afternoon, you start getting into like investigative shows, like talk shows, panel shows like at four point thirty.

I've slated Outside the Lines with Bob Lee every afternoon at four thirty at five.

How about this block five o'clock The Sports Writers on TV, which is an ode to a Chicago Sports Channel show that was a group of individuals writers sitting around a poker table in a dimly lit, dark room with just an overhead laid newspaper scattered all over the poker table.

It was Rick Tellender and Ben Bentley and Bill Jows and Bill Gleeson and they were smoking.

They'd smoke cigars and they would talk about the stories around Chicago sports in the sports world.

That's my five o'clock block at five point thirty.

Keeping with the theme the sports reporters, we're talking Mike Lupica and Dick Schapp and Ralph Wiley and Bob Ryan and guys like Dad sitting in those chairs talking about the topics of the week.

How's that for a block of programming.

Let me go to Monroe though, because this we will find a spot for Wayne.

What are we programming?

Hey, my grandma used to go downtown Cincinnati and watch these guys Bobo Vizial Chic and Flying Fred Curry Big Time Wrestling.

Yes, yes, that could be like every night around maybe like eleven thirty or so, injured day watching Big.

Time Sweet to watch Saturday.

Yes, all right, I'm putting that out on my list.

Wait, I'm glad you were listening.

Thanks for calling.

I have a great night.

Now now I mean we wait, you know what we don't have in here.

We could get into weekend programming.

We need roller Derby, Classic roller Derby.

And did I do did I have a racing spot somewhere?

And what did I do racing wise?

Did I have a racing Oh, the Bob speed Week Bob Jenkins, I don't have that in the original grid.

I would add that speed Week with Bob Jenkins classic episodes I had On my initial ten o'clock at Night I had Brockmeyer, and I was never really comfortable with that because Brockmeyer was an okay show was a former It was a minor league baseball announcer who always got into trouble.

Hank Hank Ariza Arisa.

You know who I'm talking about, That guy, Hankhsaria, that's his name.

Was close.

I was combining him with Luisa Rise Yeah new uh the three hundred hitter.

But I never comfortable putting that in the ten o'clock block.

I think I know what I'd put in the ten o'clock Ted Lasso, Big Ted Lasso Fan, and these shows I think would run through different parts of the year.

We could break them up and do them in quarters, so we'd have a rotating kind of fresh programming angle and all this.

Let me go to Walton, Kentucky, because he expressed concerns about this, and I think those concerns have been erased.

You see, Chris.

I told you to be fine.

Lance.

You know, I just expressed the younger demographics, but remembering all of it, so as you recall in the seventies, right, yes, they're about I don't know, eight nine, and you're like, all right, let's watch Monday night football, aren't Oh it's time for bed, Well, it's almost halftime.

Can just stay up a little later to watch the highlight.

Howard Cosell halftime highlights.

That's exactly right, the halftime highlights.

Just that little segment in there could be, you know, a thirty minute segment with that.

Yeah, no, now you're talking.

I like that another little uh, I guess seventies ish Battle of the Network Stars.

Where you where do you see?

Uh?

You know, Captain Kirk running a hundred yard dash against mister Cotter.

All right, yeah, I've got this.

Oh, I have this programmed every morning at ten am.

Battle of the Network Stars in the first episode is going to be the the Dunk Tank with Shirlene Tilton.

How's that.

Or Suzanne Summers would be any better.

Then Telly Savalas we'll get in an argument with Robert Conrad and Gabe Kaplan.

Yes you got to you gotta slot thirty minutes for that every.

Day, absolutely, yes, all right, that's all.

I got to.

Thank you as well.

Wait, we got to wait, Russ Jackson with incoming intel time.

The Oakland Raiders with thirteen points, so the second Quada leading the then Broncoes and another Chris NFL game thirteen to seven, the scarring and the first half went.

Like this, Oh, Howard Cosell, that Moys is just so good.

You know I've got I told Russ, I've also got another football block in the afternoon, Double Dip one thirty Classic HBOS Inside the NFL with Nick bona Khani and who did Nick Bonakani do the show with Lenny Dawson.

Yes, And then at two o'clock it would be classic NFL Primetime with Chris Berman and Tom Jackson.

In as much as Chris Berman came became like a caricature of himself, the early day classic episodes of those two together doing highlights.

Can you imagine watching that every afternoon at two o'clock would be outstanding Cincinnati.

We go, Mike, what are we plugging in?

Programming?

Guys?

How about First and ten?

Don was on HBO.

Yes, Simpsons played the general Manager.

Yes, First and ten.

We'll put that at night, absolutely, Yeah.

You definitely have to put that at night because it was a little racy.

Yeah, we may move that to like one am.

We may move into a safe zone, a safe harbor for us.

How's that exactly?

It was a funny It was a funny show.

You know.

I think it only ran three seasons, but it had a lot of various actors.

Oh yeah, for each of each of a.

Couple of seasons, and uh definitely some attractive women and uh just uh just a good.

Memory that is going on the list.

Mike, Thank you for calling.

All right, take care of it.

All right, we're talking Delta Burke and Shannon Tweed and John Matusac.

Oh yeah, wait a minute, wait, wait wait a minute, wait a minute.

Where I have I have this on my programming grid.

I gotta find it.

I've got so many notes here, No eight you know what I I don't.

That was the biggest mistake I made in putting this together.

So I'm gonna let Jay and Fairfield rectify it all.

Jay, what are we making room for?

Well?

Lance, If you got got room for great one for the weekend, it has to be with some of the greatest baseball stars ever and the kids the baseball bet.

Oh my goodness, Johnny Bench in the Baseball Bunch with the San Diego Chicken.

Yes, and Tom Lesordo, Steve Groby.

I mean you had appearances by everybody.

Yes, Bob Gibson even made an appearance, Oh my poorness before we retired.

Oh I am clearing out space we were.

We may run back to back episodes of that on on our programming guide.

You got room for one more, got one for you the Football Pollague with Steve Sable Oh.

NFL films, Yes, oh oh that's a good one.

All right, Jay, you're the man.

Have a great weekend.

Oh you too?

Last right?

Great much, thank.

You, man.

I need to slide those over.

I've got another soccer show Men and Blazers Classic Men in Blazers Premier League Soccer.

Maybe that's like an overnight like three in the morning or something.

There'll be some who who would tune in for that.

If we want to go investigatory Real Sports with Brian Gumbel.

Maybe as a possibility, cornhole as a possibility.

We need more than twenty four hours in a day.

Well, this would be like slid into weekend programming Bellevue.

We go, Ernie talk to me.

Hey, hell are you?

I'm great?

How about you?

Oh?

Thanks for the good programming.

Thank you.

I really mean it.

And uh, one of the kind of stole my fire.

But I look this up, and Lance you need to look it up.

If you will.

Kelly Stabalis was the sports director of ABC wide World of Sports.

What No, I think he listen, you got to look it up.

I'm not sure.

I'm right.

No, I think he hired Howard Cosell.

I really do.

I mean, you know what, I just founded ABC News executive who served as executive director of Cavalcadive Sports, credited with giving Howard Cosell his first job in TV.

Now think about that.

We didn't know that.

I don't.

I don't think a lot of people know that.

And you know, when you look at him, when you look at his resume, the first thing on his line he sees a singer.

He sang in vegass, who loves your baby?

And I mean, I think that's interesting to me.

Oh, it's interesting to me too.

That's great stuff.

Thank you.

I think you could maybe.

I think your idea is great.

By the way, if you can make it work, they're gonna charge you fortune.

But anyway, thank you for everything.

I really enjoy it.

Thank you hand.

Yeah.

If you look up Kelly Sabalis, I guess he was a Greek generally, yep, and he was fantastic.

But I'm gonna go to work.

Donald, I'm gonna do some background on Telly Sabalis.

Hey, Ernie, have a great weekend.

You two, all right, Thank you man.

This is this is fun.

Let's wait, I gotta tell you, let me do, let me do wait a minute, this when I don't have this one, I've got amazing.

Ken, this is beautiful.

Give me your your recommendation.

Jack Klaane, if you're gonna do some old school fitness.

Yes, we'll put Tiana on at eight in the morning and we'll put Jack Lalaine following her at a thirty.

Yeah.

What about the O.

J.

Simpson trial.

Now, let's not go crazy here.

When you said wid a little of sports, that made me think of the thrill of victory.

The agony no doubt about it, no doubt.

Hey, I have a wonderful weekend.

Ken right, all right, thank you.

Let me grab one more, right, one more, because we need we're gonna do all this.

There's some serious programming here.

We need like a cartoon eat and we go.

Chris, lay it on me.

This is a good one.

Chris.

Hello, Chris.

Oh no, I gave him the big build up.

Chris, are you there?

Oh?

I think he's been lost.

I will offer up for him.

Laugh Olympics.

We will program Laugh Olympics on Saturday mornings at like nine am.

The Scoobies All Star Laugh Olympics twenty four episodes starting in nineteen seventy seven, perfectly time with current events because it was a spoof of the Olympics.

Let's take a time out.

We'll come back.

I gotta wrap up.

I'm gonna may be out of time.

When I come back, I'll put the finishing touches on it.

RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred ww yeah on the stretch we go.

This was a blast.

I got paid to do this tonight, islable, let me get the final word in Lawrenceburg.

Our final programming Notes of the Night Chris in Lawrenceburg.

You're on sports talk.

Hey, Lance, how's going to What a great subject matter you got going on?

And yeah, like you said, like you're getting paid to do this, that's even better.

I listened to you a lot.

I've called you a couple of times.

I called you one time about selling a bunch of baseball cards back in nineteen eighty nine.

To go to the Super Bowl.

Oh.

They were my dad's card And of course he had him the worst way you could have him if he had them rubber band.

Oh no, on.

His dad's cigar boxes.

But he had three and four like everything, and you know, nothing.

A huge major like any Mantal rookies or you know I had.

But he had like some mccovey's and the stream skis.

And I sold about twelve or.

Thirteen cars, and you know, I made like three grand, and he let me have half of it to go to the Super Bowl.

And I could have got a ticket for like around eight or nine hundred dollars, but it would have took all the money I had on me.

I was only nineteen, and that was a lot of money back then.

But I don't think I could have I don't think I can get a super Bowl ticket for eighty nine hundred dollars these days.

But anyway, I just I was listening you guys are talking about you know, Battle of the Network Stars, and I just remember that.

I remember watching it when I think his name was Dan Haggerty, Yes, the.

Gresley Adams.

I couldn't think of that.

Yeah, and he was like such a big dude, and you know, and he just was like in the tug of wool I think, and it was just it was I was exciting stuff.

Oh that would be so good to watch today.

Oh man.

Yeah, and You've been bringing up all this stuff and I'm like, I told your producer man, I I would.

Love I mean, sign me up.

Financially, I'm not I'm not going to be able to help you, but if you needed some sort of help, like driving people somewhere, going picking up something, I'll totally be down with it because I think you're on something.

I will have my people keep in touch with your people.

All right, I would love that.

Yeah.

Hey, have a great weekend.

I listened to you all the time.

Hey, ipe you.

Too, Thank you you made my night with the kind words.

Thank you.

H My final programming Notes.

At seven point thirty every night, I plugged in Sports Night, which was just a wonderful TV show with Josh Charles and Joshua Molina and Felicity Huffman and uh Peter Krauzer and Robert Goulet Guillone.

At eight o'clock, I plugged in Friday Night Lights, one of my favorite shows of all time.

I forgot you know what I put it in other and it's exact spot and I would love to watch this.

Give me the classic panel popos Sports of All Sorts.

Give me Ralph Lee and Terry Nelson and Scott Droud and John Popovich on Classic Sports of All Sorts from a Sunday night, I plug him in Ato eleven thirty.

I would add, See what else would I add that I haven't to this point?

Did we add WWE Superstars?

I think we need maybe a couple of wrestling shows, and I think I've pretty much hit most of the other stuff.

I had a NBA Inside, the NBA Classic Charles Berkley episodes plugged in at like four AM, and Baseball Tonight ESPN's Baseball Tonight at three thirty.

Each morning, I got a get out of here, this was This was a blast.

Thanks to Rus Jackson for producing.

Thanks to you for hanging out with me on a Friday night it's cold and you have places to go, people to see and things to do.

When you hung out with Sports Talk and we had a blast.

Have a great weekend.

We'll talk next week.

This has been RNL Carrier Sports Talk presented by Kelsey Chevrolet seven hundred WLW