I was at set Dry Bar when I was still on Dancing with the Stars and this woman sitting next to me goes, Danielle and I said yeah, and she goes, Hi, I just wanted to tell you I've been I've been watching you on Dancing with the Stars.

I actually went to high school with you.

And I said, oh, really, and she said yeah.

I said what's your name?

And she tells me your name and she goes, but you probably don't remember me, and I go, no, no, I don't.

I mean, should I say this?

And You're like and I'm like, sorry, I you know I was I was so often not there.

And didn't she just reintroduce herself and say you probably can't say me.

And she was like and she was like huh.

And then I was like okay.

And then when I was leaving, I was like, bye, it was good to see you again.

She didn't respond to me, so I leave and I text my friend Jamie, who knows everything about.

Jamie's one of those people who like someone tells me like, well, remember that big fight you got into with you and Jen and no, And I called Jamie and I'm like, Jamie, was there a big fight?

She oh, yeah, you don't remember you And okay, so you and Jen were and she'll have like all the deals about my life and.

I'm like, how do you remember this?

She's like remembers everything.

So I called Jamie and I'm like, Jamie, I just ran into this woman named this and she she did mention that she was friends with you on Facebook and she's like, oh yeah.

She sends me a picture of her.

She's like this woman she's a doctor.

And I'm like, oh cool.

Four nights later, Dylan Efron breaks his nose at dance rehearsal Ghost.

I'm like, I'll take you to the emergency room and he's like, no, it's fine.

I'm just gonna have my assistant take me.

I'm like, no, not, I'm gonna take you and he's like no, my assistant's on his way.

I'm like, okay, his assistant takes him.

He sends me a text two hours later.

He's like, the doctor here went to high school with you.

It was her.

It was her.

Here's the funny thing.

Here's how I know for sure it was her.

He goes, the doctor is the doctor here went to high school with you?

But she says, you.

Won't remember her.

And I said, well, now I do because I just wander a dry bar.

But I didn't remember her from thirty years ago.

But she didn't mention the dry bar running.

No, you didn't.

You make an appointment with her, find out whatever type of doctor she is, if she's a rhinoplastic.

Whatever it is you are, doctor are doctors.

You gotta just show up and then then introduce yourself and say we were high school together.

You probably don't remember me.

I told him.

I was like, please tell her.

I said, hello, we just ran into each other.

I don't want her thinking I don't know who she is now.

And I said, also, I want her to take good care of you.

I don't want her to like, yeah, I just I.

Just had this similar thing.

But that made me feel far more old.

Where I was, you know, in the hospital, and a nurse came up to me, and a nurse said, you went to high school with my mom.

So I was like, we have to you were in the hospital.

You were in the hospital for a family member, not for family.

It wasn't me, and everything's good, by the way, but we were there as a routine thing.

But we were there.

And she came up and she said, oh, yeah, I think you went to high school with my mom.

And I said what, and so.

Dude, you're grandpa in myself not that crazy in my mind.

I'm still only forty.

Eight, I know.

So yeah.

She's just so strange though, And then she did she texted her mom and said, oh, he's here, and then her mom wrote back, I think I remember him.

Was he friends with somebody else?

And I was like, the fact that you were on Boy Meets World?

No, No, it wasn't that, and she's like, oh, yeah, I think I remember.

So again, I got four seed by someone I went to high school with.

Forgot, Danielle.

You probably won't remember me, but we did Boy Meets World together, so.

Go o my gosh.

I know.

It's it is still shocking to me the amount of people who will come up and ask for a picture or something, and then I take the picture and I'm like, bye, it was so nice to meet you, and they're like thanks, my mom's gonna love.

This, like yep, yep, it happens quite a bit.

Yeah, my grandma, if you used to have pictures of you on her wall, I'm like, oh my god, and I've in my head I picture him like the old pictographs where it's just the cutout of like the half of my face, the silhouettes old the silhouette, it's just that like, oh my god, Duff, he's so cute.

Yes, nice, awesome, just getting old, damn.

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Holiday at is Odes continues, and even though Halloween is behind us, there was one spooky excursion we still had to make, returning to the universe of TGIF and diving into a rare TV episode sequel.

We are back at Family Matters for Stevel two.

This time He's not alone.

Guys.

Was Stevel won the best Halloween episode we have seen thus far?

I think it was, Yes, were the most full.

It was better than Fresh Prince and it was really yeah, I think because remember Fresh Prince just ended like the whole story just stopped.

Yeah, where Stepel was like, it didn't take itself seriously, but it was a little spooky and it had the puppet was really cool, and then they showed the making of at the end.

Like I thought, all around, it was a pretty solid Halloween episode.

Yeah, I guess, so.

What do you think of?

And then there was was Sean Part two would.

Have looked like, oh, it would have been great.

Yeah, it would have been let's see what was Scream part two?

Like what would have been the next evolution?

Because it's like.

Would you have done Scream or would you have picked a whole different horror.

Type of genre.

Yeah, Like we're.

At like maybe everybody goes to camp and it's like a Jason, No, we all go to we all go to ski lodge.

We all got to go to got to go to a haunted cabin.

Yeah, in the mountains.

It's a Phoene's cabin.

Yeah, and a great idea.

Phoene's cabin.

Yep, that's it.

And we do at idea we do like some.

BB episode, but but horror, Oh my god.

A moose can't be a killer a moss.

So Stevel two was season nine, episode seven of Family Matters final season and a year after the original Stevel So it must have been a hit.

The follow up aired on Halloween Night nineteen ninety seven, And if you want to check out Stevel two you can right now.

It's streaming on Hulu, so you can know about everything related to a possessed Rkle and reginaldville Johnson doll Okay, What are your early thoughts on this sequel episode.

I mean, I don't know, you don't really don't.

This was terrible.

It was good.

It was am because I like the idea of like going back and like having another ROMP and like, I guess, going in, especially since they're set up with by the first one so well, it was like anything goes and they kept it very small and like it's really just the two actors the entire time.

Like, yeah, nobody else everyone had finals.

Yeah, I think, I think, I guess.

I like the idea of there being two dolls, and I like the idea of Carl having his doll.

I thought that was funny and it looked funny, but then they just didn't do any in like the Vegas joke, like the whole like Hollywood entertainment thing.

When it went on for like five minutes of them dancing, I was like, oh, really, this is just dancing.

And it was also so much set up just get into it.

How many scenes were there going to be about Steve?

This was a dream, This was a dream.

You don't you got a sleep?

You got to I mean, they were like it felt like half the episode before it was like Okay, come on, yeah, get into.

It also seemed like it was the same director, but the voice seemed different, even though.

I totally thought the voice was different.

Right, well, I thought it was a different guy, but it's not.

It's the same guy.

And then Reginald vel Johnson doesn't even take off his shoes when he takes a nap.

It's the first time, that's true.

It was the exact same thing.

He laid down on the bed basically like this, with his full shoes on and his whole outfit.

It's you know, because then they got to get up.

Then they got to get up and run, and they can't have to stop and put their shoes on.

Sorry.

So what would you have done for Stevel too?

How would you have added to the the Stevel storyline?

I would have gone with what they did essentially in I wouldn't have made it reginaldvel Johnson.

I would have made it the girl he's in love with.

And I would have done because Chucky doesn't Chucky get a bride.

It's like Bride of Chucky.

I would have gone Bride of Chucky with it, and it would have been Laura that would have done it, and it would have been the two a boy puppet and a girl puppet running around doing stuff.

It would have been fun to just take the stevil idea and bring it to other characters, which they kind of did with Carl, but they should have probably had Steve not in this one at all.

Yeah, and like the Stevel and Lisz other family members and gets other dolls and then at the end Erkele comes back.

But yeah, as it was, it was just kind of like, oh, we're just doing this again.

Yeah.

Eventually the synopsis Erkele's evil ventriloquist dummy Stevel is back with a vengeance, and this time he's not alone.

His sidekick, Carl's Bad has arrived to help steal Erkele and Carl's souls.

It was directed again by Rich Correll.

He is a sitcom vet who directed the very first Stevel episode and it was written by a new name, Jim Gogan.

Jim was a big sitcom writer, starting his career on shows like Facts of Life, Silver Spoons, and Mama's Family.

He'd end up creating the Sweet Life of Zach and Cody, which is a fun career trajectory.

This is one of thirty two Family Matters episodes that he wrote, we went over the stars in our first recap, but here's a quick reminder.

Reginald Bell Johnson is Carl Winslow.

Joe Marie Payton plays Harriet Winslow, Darius McCrary as Eddie Winslow, Kelly Sheen Williams is Laura Winslow.

Brighton James is Richie Crawford, and the great Julia White as Steve Urkele.

Guest starring this week, Orlando Brown returns as three J.

Director Rich Carrell again supplies Stevel with his voice.

Josh Ryan Evans is also back as Stevel.

Evans, who was just thirty seven inches tall, was best known as Timmy Lennox on the soap opera Passions and as Baby Grinch in The Jim Carrey Grinch That Stole Christmas.

He passed back in two thousand and two at the young age of twenty, but now we have Ed Gail as Carlsbad.

Ed was a little person legend in Hollywood.

He appeared in over one hundred and thirty movies and TV shows.

Most famously, he was Howard the Duck in Howard the Duck and Chucky in Child's Play, which is the character this entire Family Matters premises based on Gail, passed away this past May at the age of sixty one.

Yeah, Howard the duck.

They also put a little kid in the outfit and it was like hot and he was like eight and they just tortured this little kid in the set.

Yeah it was bad.

Yeah.

Wow.

Jumping into our recap, we start in the cold open.

We are back in the Winslow's house and if this feels familiar, it's because this is the same warning they used for the first st Evil.

I get waiting for them to add to it.

I was like, no, it's gonna be and then they're like, turn the lights on.

I was like, that's my name.

I also thought I was watching the wrong episode, but the kids do look older, but I was like, wait, am I watching stevel One.

So if you've forgotten, Erkele WARN's viewers that this Halloween episode might be scary, so to watch it with someone brave.

Richie and three J luckily beside him on the couch promise they have his back, but Erkle still wants to turn on the lights.

Now we're in the Winslow's Halloween decorated living room.

Despite his best efforts to stay awake.

Urkle is falling fast asleep on the couch.

He quickly catches himself snoring and decides the best way to keep himself awake is to impressively dribble a basketball.

Then Laura, in a robe, makes her way downstairs and kindly announces she has a message for Erkle from her dad.

Erkle is interested to hear.

She aggressively shouts stop that.

By the way, this robe that Laura is wearing was a very popular nineties Yeah, this robe.

I think Tipega had this robe.

I think it was also on Friends.

It's a friend's robe too.

Yep, it's it was on every sitcom in the nineties someone had this robe.

So what is he up?

What is he doing up at three am?

Anyways, he reminds her it's three hours into Halloween night.

He's not sleeping tonight or tomorrow night.

In fact, he may not even sleep until Thanksgiving.

She wonders if he's still afraid of that nightmare from last year about his ventriloquist dummy.

Erkele insists Stevel was no ordinary dummy.

He was a diabolic, satanic evil force born in the heart of darkness.

He also never gave me my phone messages.

Laura doesn't understand.

M.

Laura doesn't understand how he's still afraid.

Isn't the dummy gone?

Erkle admits he is gone.

He chopped him up into a million pieces, grounded him in a blender, then flushed his sawdust down the toilet.

So Laura lists three reasons he shouldn't be afraid.

One Stevel's not real, Two he flushed him down the toilet, and three he's not real Erkele shrugs her off.

A man's got to do what a man's got to do.

She tells him he better do it without dribbling, and heads back upstairs with the ball.

Now alone again, Erkle decides he should watch some TV to keep him awake.

He clicks to turn on the TV and decides to check out what's on ABC.

Network.

Just no, it's worse than that.

The last season of Family Matters was on CBS to CBS, so he was actually insulting.

They were insulting the old network that let them go.

It is running.

You get a joke about the yeah.

So that was actually he was.

He was the old network.

Yes, yeah, yeah.

So he's like, let's see what's on ABC?

And he's back a sleeves.

Now we enter Erkle's dream sequence.

In the bathroom, we once again have thunder and lightning storm lights up a very dark scene.

The camera zooms in on the toilet.

The seat flies open, revealing a wooden hand, eventually an intact but what Stevel pops his head out and creepily announces, I'm back.

Do you guys ever?

Do you remember the movie Gholies?

Of course I never saw it, but it was always the cover of the movie at the VHS store was a hand coming out of the No, it was a little green guy coming it was a whole.

That's right, he's like pushing up the thing, pushing up the right.

I know, he's just like is.

Remember because it was like a rip off Gremlins.

It was like right around the same time as Gremlins.

So somebody made Ghoulies and I always wanted to rent it.

My parents would never let me.

Like a ghoule, Yeah, like a little but the cover was just legendary.

It was like a green little monster coming out of the toilet, and I just it's indelible.

And the second he said, you know, I ground him up and threw him down the toilet.

I was like, Oh, there's gonna be the shot.

There's gonna be a shot of him coming out of the toilet right away.

Oh yeah, they could have cut to it right away, by the way, about too much set up like that should have been it like ground him up and cut it a boom, cut to lightning strikes.

It comes out of the toilet.

We know what happened.

Also, Danielle, if you can avoid in the future saying a wet stevel comes out of the toilet, I really appreciate.

No, I'm going to say a wet stevel comes out of the toilet every episode.

Now and then we're back in the living room.

Arcle is now eating lots of crackers, paired with a giant tubo cheese, still in his pajamas.

Visual guys, we got a bucket of brittle later.

Did they did?

They?

Really?

Did?

They do it specifically because they wanted everyone to know we're now in the dream sequence.

I guess I think that's what it is.

I think they literally it was probably like on set they're like, oh, he's eating crackers and cheese, and I don't know, They're like.

We find at joke whose dream it is.

It's it's Steve now and then he wakes up and then there's another thing.

Yeah right, but so is Stevel.

Then only in carl dream.

No, stevel'sn't And this is dream, this is Streamestrea, this is Erkele's dream's two separate dreams.

And then I was waiting for the end to be like, oh and it's all a dream and somebody else, but it didn't do it didn't go that far.

No, it's just literally Steve has a dream and Carl has a.

Dream, and then they're real also, but are they wait, so then they're really.

Carl wakes up from his dream and comes downstairs and says, you have to tell me about oh no, and then.

They just talk about their dreams and they walk upstairs and that's it.

Yeah, okay, what are you.

Doing, Steve.

After some more thunder and lightning, the lights start to flicker, and eventually they go out completely, leaving the screen one hundred pitch black.

Then, after a few seconds, they turn back on and Erkele finds himself face to face with Stevel.

Erkele shrieks and terror as Stevel lets out another evil laugh.

Erkele backs away.

He can't believe it.

It's you, it's you.

Stevel responds, it sure is, bone butt.

You just made yourself laugh just by saying that I.

Love it, and I love bone butt.

Just start calling my kid's bone butt.

Thanks for flushing me down the toilet.

Pal I spent the last year hanging out in sewers, bobbing for rats.

Erkele asks him what he wants, and stevil grins, Oh, not much, just your soul.

The puppet hops down from the couch and slowly approaches Erkele, who pleads with them, why don't you take the guy's next door.

He's a lawyer, he's never used his classic lawyer jokes.

Lawyer it's yeah, it's there.

Used to be so many of them.

Lawyer jokes, mother in law jokes.

Those are like the go tos.

Yeah.

Erkele stumbles into the armchair.

As Stevell gets closer, he tells Erkele he won't settle for any soul he wants his.

Erkele shrieks as Steve hops onto him and declares, hold still, this is gonna hurt like the Dickens.

The evil puppet proceeds to shoot green laser beams into Erkele's eyes as he screams in pain.

But then the dream sequence starts to fade.

We're into a different scene.

Still in the Winslow's living room, Erkele is sleeping on the couch, tossing and turning in agony.

He finally wakes himself up and scans the room in fear.

He realizes he fell asleep and Stevell managed to come back.

How did this happen?

Then we go to a tense commercial break as Erkle checks behind a small pillow.

We return in the Winslow house.

The title graphics Stevil two.

This time He's not alone, appears just as Erkele is handing out carmel covered squid pray, lean prunes, and three bean taffy to Tricker treaders.

They are less than enthused and he can't understand why.

He asks for a thank you, and he's met with a barrage of candy thrown at him.

Eddie and Laura walk downstairs wearing some impressive Halloween costumes.

Eddie is dressed as Don King and Laura is wearing an elaborate alien costume.

So he tries to guess Halloween sitcom things he always gott to have like the presentation funny outfits.

And it's also it's.

Like you walk downstairs and it's such a sitcumting thing too.

You walk downstairs with the giant alien head on and then you have to take it off to show who you are and say you're lines, and then you have to put it.

Back on it.

Yeah, can I writer?

I think you said you you watched the Chucky movies?

Have you seen them?

I've seen the first one.

I don't think I've seen anything past that.

Does anyone just kick the puppet away from them?

Yes?

I think I think it's actually a key scene in the first one, like, yeah, there's a bit where god, I think she kicks it at one point you think the thing is gone and then like she it comes out from under the I don't know.

Yes, yes, they try to make it.

It's just slowly approaching.

Steve.

It's like, just kick the puppet, I know, just kick the puppet, Like.

How hard is that?

That's what I said the first time.

It's like when you can just take the puppet apart, right, like I I'm not scared.

Really the puppet should come in and psychologically torture them, right, Like that's what that's what a ventriloquist could do, is like insult them and and tear down their sense of well being, and.

He's just doing crowd works.

That's where we end up.

So it was pretty much pretty much Yeah.

So Eddie is dressed as Don King and Laura is wearing an elaborate alien costume.

Ercle tries to guess Don King and missus King.

Eddie responds with his best Don King impression.

Arkle's half right.

He's going to his fraternity dressed as Don on que.

Two pretty girls dressed in sports bras and boxing shorts walk in and ask miss mister King if he's ready.

Well, girls are dressed in scatter like they're at club.

Yeah, Eddie happily takes a girl on.

This happen anymore?

Does anybody like, do women walk onto a stage in a city.

Anymore?

But if there, does this happen on?

This is a regular thing.

Eddie happily takes a girl on each arm and continues his Don King impression out the door, Only in America, Only in America.

Laura asks if he got any sleep last night, and Erkle tells her all about the stevil guest appearance and his nightmare.

It was five of the most terrifying minutes of his life, second only to watching Lord of the Dance.

Erkle gives a cute little imitation of Michael Flatley.

Laura reminds him it was only a dream, but Erkle's adamant.

I'm not dreaming anymore.

I had eight cups of espresso, a six pack of Jolt Cola, and a giant bowl of fruit loops with extra sugar.

If you remember Jolt I remember I never drank it.

I never tasted it.

Yeah, it tastes as if somebody melted down lipstick and then just filled the rest with nerd sweat.

It's like, it's what it's like, the chemicallyst nastiest.

It is just disgusting.

It was like five times the caffeine or something ridiculous like Kenya.

Can you buy it still?

I have no idea.

I have no I can't imagine Arcia Cola.

Is still around.

I think I can get that somewhere.

I remember that taste that yeahs comminated.

I guess, OK, unless it's caffeine free.

For the records, I can I can buy Jolt cola.

It appears, and I'm wondering if I get it for you guys, would you drink it for a pre show chatter?

Yes, yes, yes, I'll take a sip, but I don't do caffeine, so five times the.

Caffeine will take a sip too.

But let's get let's get jolt and arc will do a taste test.

Okay, all right, I.

In I'll just call that a panic attack Tuesday, not just wipe your schedule.

For the rest of the day.

Exactly.

If your schedule planned to sit on the toilet.

There will definitely be a wet stevel coming out of the toilet that day, so let's be honest.

Then Richie and three J comes strolling in dressed as the men in Black.

Arkle realizes that's why Laura's the alien.

Oh my gosh.

Richie and three J reveal that after people give them can in ei, they're going to erase their memories.

That way we can go back for more.

They hold up their memory erasing devices and Arkle pretends to fall into a trance.

He asks the boys who are you?

And he loves his own joke.

Laura says it's time to go, and they walk out.

At the same time.

Karl arrives wearing his police uniform.

So I have a question, what do we think?

Why did the scene need to happen?

Why did any of this need to happen so.

We could see the other cast members in the episode?

Right?

Yeah, there are so many others that aren't in the episode.

Yeah, so why do they only need these characters in the episode?

Stupid question for season nine because I didn't watch the show.

Are did all the characters make the jump from ABC to CBS?

Are all the characters still on the show?

I mean I miss the character there and the grandma character they're still there?

Are they all still there?

I mean I read all their names, so you know when I said I went over the this that we went over their names in the first Reginald Bell Johnson, Joe Marie Payton, Darius McCrary, Kelly Brighton.

I guess the only one then who's maybe not in the episode is Joe Marie Payton, right, because Darius we just saw Kelly, right, and then let's see that's guest starring Orlando.

Yeah, the grandmother is not in this episode.

People and costume, they have the fun the kids in costume.

I'm just wondering, you know, if the show is the same having moved to CBS.

If it's all the same cast, like everybody made the jump, or maybe some people didn't.

I don't know.

Interesting.

Laura says it's time to go, and they walk out at the same time.

Carl arrives wearing his police uniform.

Erkele says, Carl looks a little peaked.

Tough day at the office.

Carl blames it on eating too much candy at the precinct Halloween party.

He's going to take a quick nap before dinner, but Erkele won't allow it.

Jumping jahouse a fat, it's Halloween.

Why if you can't do upstairs to say that he's going upstairs to take a nap, but he's coming down in his cop uniform.

He's not coming downstairs.

He came from the kitchen.

That's the kitchen over there.

He's like coming from the swing door.

He enters from the kitchen.

So he just got home.

So he got home from work.

Okay, he just got home from work and he's coming into the living room.

Gotcha, okay, so Urkle.

Says, Jumping j Hoosa fat, it's Halloween.

You can't sleep.

He's the one with the dream.

Why does he think other people are going.

To have are they may be doing, like trying to do like a nightmare in Elm Street thing where it's like whoever falls asleep can.

Get He doesn't think it is a dream.

Urkele's convinced it's a real character.

So why well didn't he already fall asleep and wake back?

And I guess in that case he thought and he said, oh, I fell asleep and he came back.

So this is not a dream happening right now.

No, he already woke up and has been dealing with Candy and he's drank the jolt, so he's going to stay awake.

So I don't know why he wouldn't just be like I mean, maybe he's just afraid to be alone, Like he doesn't want Carl to go to sleep.

I would, I would understand that, But that's not what he says.

You can't sleep you could have.

Does.

Carl quickly realizes and is disappointed to see this is about last year's stevel nightmare.

Rkele isn't embarrassed at all.

In fact, this time he's after his soul.

Carl agrees he's scared too, and Arkle can't believe it really Carl shoots back while pretending to suck his thumb.

Yeah, if I were five, Carl reminds Erkele, he's not a kid anymore.

He's a reasonable facsimile of a man.

This little nightmare can't get the best of him.

Toughen up, man Carl's right.

Erkele puffs up his chest and decides he'll be a manly man.

Carl pep talks Arcle by asking what he's scared of, and the manly man confidently responds nothing.

With this new found attitude, Urkel encourages Carl to go upstairs and catch some z's while he holds down the fort.

So, yeah, maybe it was about being alone, even though I wish he would I wish he would have said that, no.

Please stay with me.

I don't want to be alone.

Stevel came back, right, But it's also.

If this is before dinner, everybody's leaving, and so wouldn't Steve be handing out the candy which he did to the apparently the only three tree that showed up at the house, And like the dad's going to bed, mom's out, Well, the dad's going to.

Bed before dinner, He's gonna have a quick snooze.

Right, But Steve already was handing out candy, So why is he trying to stay awake at five o'clock?

So bump, It's just god, I know, but this.

One really didn't make a whole like the story didn't.

You're right, Why does he need all that to stay awake at five?

It's five pm?

Is he?

Is he a narcolepsy?

Is this now a problem?

I mean, it's one of those I gotta stay awake.

It's four thirty if I shouldn't be a problem.

It's four thirty on Halloween night.

Remember he stayed up since the night before so he was so he's now running on like twenty four hours.

Yeah yeah, yeah, of no sleep because he said it's three hours into Halloween, so at least he was up since like three am.

He didn't sleep last night.

So I guess that that is what's making sense.

I think maybe we're the problem.

Of course we are.

We know we're the problem.

Of course we are.

Carl sarcastically says he'll sleep better knowing that, and Ercle does not catch the joke.

He feels good about himself.

He's got everything under control.

Rkele casually sits on the couch right next to a decorative skeleton.

As he sinks in, the skeleton's arm moves onto his shoulder, and the manly man frantically stands up, screaming.

Eventually realizing it was not thing, he tries to brush it off.

I'm cool, I'm cool.

But now this wasn't a dream and the skeleton did move.

The skeleton did move, yeah, but I think it's just because of the way he sunk into his couch couch.

I saw that skeleton put its arm around him.

That I did too.

It's a romprider.

Yeah, relax, enjoy it.

Then we're in Carl's room.

Carl walks out of the bathroom holding a bottle of peptobismal.

He laughs about the evil ventriloquist dummy and takes a seat on the bed.

He reads his peptobismal bottle and realizes it's a new flavor.

He takes a swig in his face immediately sours.

Apparently the new flavor is chalk.

Question before you go on, just very quickly, because I was curious about this when I watched it.

How often do both of you actually talk to yourselves out there?

I was going to say, this is how you know.

Time you have this in a script, you have to change it.

Yep.

Right, time to rewrite, time to rewrite.

You cannot do it even on my thankfully, even on Disney Channel shows now, where it's so convenient to have a kid walk into a room and say something to themselves out of.

Everybody go all right, I guess I'll just go over here and have my find myself.

Yep, yep.

Nope.

Even on a very kids show now, people are like, we can't do this.

Maybe maybe one one thing like where is everyone?

Maybe, but pretty much it's.

One of my favorite things that you know, when I do the Young Storytellers, I'm teaching kids how to, like fifth graders, to write scripts, and we outline and then we get to the actual dialogue.

And it's always so funny because they all want to do this.

They all want to if the characters by themselves, they're just like and then they say, oh, I'm hungry.

I guess I'll go to the fridge and get some dy And you know, you you have to just let them write what they write, and then you like go back and give them notes the other thing that they always do.

It's so funny they have people say their lines simultaneously, so there'll be like two characters that we'll both be like who came to the party, And you're like, how do people know to just psychically say the same thing.

It's one of those like things you just have to explain.

You can have voiceover, you can have the ways to show what somebody's you know, thinking, without having them just say it.

But yeah, it is like first thought writing things, like everyone could just express themselves and then two people could just say the whole line together.

Yeah, it's so funny.

He sets the bottle down and turns out the lights.

He sighs aloud and once again talks to himself loudly, shaking his head in disbelief.

Evil ventriloquist dummy.

He calls it crazy as he falls asleep.

We enter Carl's dream in the Winslow's living room.

Carl walks downstairs, eating out of a big bucket o brittle.

He notices an, see, this is how you know where you're in dreams when people what you're saying.

You know, So it's like when you're in dream you're getting to eat your.

Giant Yeah, and for people watching to help make it clear Okay, when you're in a dream, you got these.

Big food equals big dreams, gotcha.

Exactly, They're all my dreams are made up.

Danielle just in a diet doughnut down to a cheeseburger house.

It's just her hole.

She's just skipping down.

I'm getting hungry, guys, yells.

Whole dream sequence is just that.

He notices a tall box in the middle of the living room that's labeled fragile.

The box is addressed to him, so he decides to open it.

Also, he's talking to himself in his dream.

Huh, Carl winslow, that's me.

And it's another Ventriloquis dummy, but this one looks exactly like him.

He's even dressed in a cute little matching police uniform.

Carl wonders who could have sent this.

He needs to sit and put the dummy on his lap, leading into a cheesy ventriloquist joke about mayonnaise.

Carl and his puppet love the gag.

Then Erkele walks downstairs and is terrified to find Carl playing with this dummy.

Carl says he's just having fun, but Erkele compares playing with a ventriloquist dummy to playing with a loaded gun.

Carl tells him it's just a hunk of wood.

He's not alive, and then boom, the front door comes crashing down and Stevel walks in amidst a wall of green fog.

He tells Carl not yet, then zaps the new ventriloquist dummy with his lightning powers, bringing him to life.

The dummy swiftly jumps off Carl's lap and stands with Stevel.

Carl nervously asks who are you?

His puppet doppelganger answers in a deep, gruff voice, you can call me Carl's Bad.

Thunder and lightning strikes again.

As Erkele and Carl stare at their look alikes in horror.

We go to a commercial break.

Then we return to the living room, now with the puppet slowly creeping toward the humans.

Carl's Bad declares that they have some big plans for these fleagh boys.

Erkele asks to rob and murder.

Carl's Bad admits, Nah, we're going into show business.

Erkele gasps, that's even worse.

Stevel asks his evil friend, when you become human, what are you going to do?

Carl's Bad shouts, I'm going to Vegas.

I'm offended, absolutely offended?

Are you?

Yeah, deeply offended.

You're not offended by this sixty two dollars coffee.

That's my favorite part.

That's not what offends you.

He swiftly jumps onto the couch and turns on a boombox.

Generic hip hop starts to play, and Stevel shows off some radical dance skills.

He even gives us, this is really painful.

I don't get it was.

It's like, if you have the joke, Okay, the joke is like they want to go to Hollywood?

Are they want to be entertainers?

Okay, it's just bad.

Fine, but there is a version where that could be, like what if they're like suddenly very insecure actors and or they really care about it and it's like gen you know.

But instead it's just like, let's have the let's have the Little puppets dance, yeah for and moonwalk and moonwalk yeah yeah.

Then he turns things over to Carl's Bad, who does his own share of cool moves, including the cabbage patch, the two puppets bump butts and spin in unison.

They end the routine by walking up to the humans and stomping on their feet.

As the guys are doubled over in pain, Stevel turns off the music.

Dance time is over.

Carl's bad ads, now hand over your souls so we can become human.

Erkle reminds Carl that he's a cop.

He asks, what do they do?

Carl stammers, well, section three of the police manual says, uh, run for your life.

They both dart in opposite directions, but their dummies are already there, blocking them from a doorway.

So Erkele and Carl quickly run upstairs.

Kick the dummy.

Kick the dummy.

Not a hard thing.

What are you running from?

They're not even armed and Carl's a cop.

He has a gun, I know he can't done with a nightstick And later seeing I was like, where was that?

There was?

Where's your firearm?

Yeah?

But the dummies are.

The second the door falls as Stevel shows up, he's his line, but dummies pleading.

End of episode hysterical.

That's Halloween episode of all time.

You start the episode at a crime scene with a tiny little outline of a dead dummis and you go back.

And you go, you go, what the hell happened here, Carl, Well, dummy broke down my door.

That would be great.

Now in Carl's room.

Ercle and Carl scramble inside and slam the door shut behind them, but within seconds the dummies pry it open a crack.

Both sides struggle in a frantic tug of war, each pushing with all their might to either keep the puppets out or force their way in.

Finally, Carl manages to close the door and lock it.

Carl comments on how strong those puppets are, but Erkle is staying positive they may have discouraged them.

He bends down and puts his ear against the door.

He doesn't hear a peep.

Then crash, an axe goes through the door, leaving a hole for Carl's bad to peek through.

A cute reference to the shining popping out of the splintered wood, he declares, here's Carl's bad.

But then Carl realizes they can use a nearby dresser.

They drag it in front of the door, blocking the hole and in turn those evil puppets.

Carl is certain they can't get through it.

It's solid oak.

Immediately after he says this, the top drawer shoots out and hits him in the head.

Various drawers start popping out and hitting Carl and the crotch and in the head, and one drawer even has Carl's bad in it.

He grabs onto Carl's nose and squeezes it thar she blows.

Carl screams for Erkele's help, but Erkele just grabs his ear, making it worse.

Carl clarifies, don't help them, help me.

Rkle quickly pulls him away from the possessed dummy, and they watch on as the dresser drawers open and close all on their own.

Eventually, Stevel and Carl's bad pop out of one, yelling peekaboo.

The lights go out as thunder and lightning rumble outside, flashing light on the dummies as they let out maniacal laughs.

Then they magically disappear.

Carl checks the drawers what is going on?

Then more lightning flashes and the lights go out.

We hear Erkle scream and when the lights come on, he's gone.

Carl calls out for him, but he's nowhere to be found.

He starts to panic, Oh no, oh no.

He looks directly into the camera and screams, they've got Steve, and then Carl creeps downstairs, looking through the pelvis bone of a skeleton and carrying his baton for protection glasses.

I think this is something Will would have done, Like Will done that, and then they would have been like, do that, and that's the one they would have used.

That seems like.

He calls out for Erkele and searches the room for any signs.

Then he sees something.

It's a large white sheet covering something that looks like a sofa chair.

Carl reaches for the sheet, terrified that he'll find Erkele dead underneath.

He pulls it off and we hear a woman scream it's a creepy skeleton.

Carl lets out a dramatic cry, and the door starts to creak open behind him.

Thinking it might be Arkle, Carl slowly walks to it and sticks his head outside.

Then bam, a skeleton falls onto his head.

Carl screams in horror as he shakes the bones off.

Then he hears noises coming from the kitchen.

Now he's angry if they touch my dove bars.

Dove bars are delicious.

He storms into the room to find Arkle.

Slows and scaring ahead.

Blinds is the only commentary I means, are delicious, delicious, and.

That's what Carl walks on the.

You're welcome.

Carl asks what have they done to him?

The thunder and lightning get more aggressive, and Carl looks very scared.

The lights go out, and the lightning lets us see small snippets of Carl, wide eyed, yelling what a terrible, awful night?

When will this ever end?

The lights turn on, and now Stevel and Carl's batter right behind him, standing on the dining table.

Carl's bad announces very soon, one soul down, one to go.

Stevel now speaks in Erkele's human voice, don't I look pretty in a human soul?

Carl grabs Stevel, pulling him off the table.

Well, is in the dummy?

Ercles in the dummy?

But then why is the dummy still evil?

Like at this point they should want to save the dummy?

Yeah, Carl Grass, Carl gret pulling him off the table.

Well, now that you have a soul, why don't you stop being evil?

I want to use the film award guys always on.

Dancing with.

A Lace, Dancing with the Stars four digits we've all accomplished this.

Oh, I got something.

I graduated with Latin honors from Columbia.

Guys, this.

Is what gets you.

I graduated magna CUMLOADI from fuller time.

Okay, dove bars are good, they are.

That's what I got to that conversation.

I graduated in high school barely.

Stevel explains, still in Erkele's voice, I'm still evil, only now I feel guilty about it.

Carl's Bad chimes in, I can't wait to get my soul and hit the road to Vegas.

Carl looks at him in disgust, but Carl's Bad is reveling in it.

He tells Carl to freeze while he sucks out his soul.

Carl warns him, You're never gonna get my soul.

I'm gonna fight you to the death.

Stevel and Carl's Bad declare war, and when Carl reaches for Erkele, the dummies pounce.

Carl's Bad jumps onto his back while Stevel clings to his leg.

Carl can't shake them off.

He begs, can't we just get along?

Carl's Bad bites his nose in response.

Erkele is still sitting in the chair looking completely empty.

When Carl is finally able to throw Carl's bad through the glass window, then he grabs Stevel and shucks him out the window too.

The audience applauds, and Carl grabs Erkele's hand.

They've got to get out of there.

Erkele says nothing as Carl drags him through the house like a zombie, but once at the front door, Erkele pulls away.

Carl wants to know what's going on, and Erkele's face goes sinister as a green light shines on him.

In a very deep, stevil voice.

A now very different looking Erkele asks, what's the rush?

A horrified Carl shouts no, no, as Erkele shoots green laser beams out of his eyes and into Carl's soaking out his soul.

Both evil, So Rkle, the body and and Stevel are somehow now both evil, even though one of them is supposed to have soul.

Right right, And then we slowly fade out of the dream sequence.

Carl's room, Carl is in bed, screaming.

Discussing, warns like right right, okay, So then Stevel.

Carl is in bed screaming, not my soul.

No, not my dovebar, there's no.

He jumps out of bed and sprints out the door.

See the reason we don't have to discuss it is because it's a dream, and you know, you don't have to make yeah, right, nothing has to.

Make like cheeseburger house in French Fries.

Totally exactly.

That's except and then there was Sean, who is a dream I know, and it's a good one.

Yeah, has actual character relationship, you know, has a point.

Yeah, this is this is just a yeah, it's a the Winslow's living room, Erkele is sitting on the couch laughing with the decorative skeleton, who he calls a great listener.

It falls limp on the couch and response a careful Karl slowly walks down the stairs, still shaking off the nightmare.

Erkele asks if he'd like any of the carmel covered squid.

He shakes his head, it admits he's just had the worst nightmare of his life.

Erkle guesses, was it the one where you have to frisk nell Carter, which is a I think a fat.

Joke, I guess, so, yeah, or give me a break joke.

I don't get it.

I don't get Carter, give me a break.

I don't I think must just yet.

Why would a nightmare beds?

Yeah, just that she's a larger word.

I thought, that's my guess.

Yeah, okay.

Carl says it was even worse than that one.

This time he had a dream about Stevel.

He tells Erkel about Carl's bad and the two puppets trying to steal their souls.

It made me realize I should have never made fun of your nightmare.

Erkele's shocked.

Really, Carl continues, I should have encouraged you to talk about it that way.

It wouldn't have seemed so scary.

Rkele thanks him for the kindness.

As Carl begins to walk away, Erkele follows after him.

Have I ever told you about the nightmare where I was locked in a cheese factory but I had no nose, And then Myra showed up and she wanted to give me a kiss, but I had no lips.

Then I tried to run home, but I had no feet.

Erkele goes on and on and on, and Carl again looks directly into the camera, regretting his prior words of dream related encouragement.

And then my mother showed up, but she was wearing velvet boxer shorts.

Carl turns away from Rkele, walking upstairs without a peep, but Erkele still follows.

Carl, still detailing his other nightmares, like when he was milk fed veal chop engaged to an elderly lamb.

Chop laughs and the credits roll, and then we're in the tag in Las Vegas.

We see various nineties Vegas hotels and a sign that reads now appearing in the oak room Stevel and Carl's Bad.

The two dummies walk onto stage wearing green and red sequined tailcoats paired with sparkly gold bow ties and cumber buns.

They think the audience for the warm welcome, and Stevell admits it's not easy being the short, and Carl's Bad asks why Stevel answers, because you're always the last guy to know when it rains.

The audience groans, so Stevel tries again.

He tells them I was dating this female puppet once, and Carl's Bad asks why'd you stop?

Stevel says, because she cheated on me with a Gi Joe doll.

Now the audience booze and the dummies can't believe it is this thing on Carl's Bad asks what are you people?

Mannequins?

A man heckles back, No, but you are.

Stevel asks him to repeat that in the parking lot, and Carl's Bad threatens, we'll rip your heart out.

The audience starts to boo even louder, and Carl's Bad tells Stevel they really hate you.

Stevel asks me, what do you mean me?

Carl's Bad's says he has all the funny lines and he's blowing them, but Stevell blames it on his bad setups.

They start to wrestle each other on stage, falling to the floor and ending with Stevel choking Carl's Bad out as the final credits role.

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