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Good morning everybody, and a happy holidays to you.

We are coming to you as a pre recorded episode here today, so I hope your holidays are going well and safe and mary for everyone out there, and that's awesome.

So we're not live today, we are pre recorded, but I have an awesome guest here with me in the studio today.

She is a member of my own team, Cryptid's Anomalies and the Paranormal Society, and we will get to that in just a second.

But coming up next year, we guys are going to be at the Contact Modalities Expo May first, second, and third in Delavan, Wisconsin.

There's a whole bunch of people there on your screen if you're watching this on video otherwise I'm not going to read them all to you because there's a ton of them.

Dean Bertram though also one of the other show hosts here on the network, myself, we are going to be at this event, big three day event there in Delavan.

Come on out, check it out.

Mediums and psychics and UFOs, contact Ease, all kinds of stuff.

Going to be a good time.

And of course we are going to be at Cryptid's Anomalies and the Paranormal Convention Saturday and May ninth in Fondolac, Wisconsin, with a Bigfoot expedition the night before that.

Tickets are very limited to that event and so tickets go on sale January first.

Coming up, we are also going to be at the Chicago Paranormal Convention Saturday, June thirteenth in Countryside, Illinois, and way out in October of this year, we are going to be at the Belleville Public Library.

More events as we get them lined up, but that's what we got for now, so hopefully you guys can come out and check those out.

That's all I got.

It's coming up here on the end of the year with the holidays and stuff, so only a cup more and we get into the brand new year.

So with that being said, let us get to our guest today.

It's always a good show here when I get to interview my own team members, so I'm really excited to have her joining me on today's show.

My guest is Ellie wisen Cell.

She is rooted in a deep lifelong connection to the spiritual world.

Elle wisen Cell initially pursued a path in science, earning two degrees and dedicating over three decades to the food industry and a science based government agency.

However, during the latter years of her scientific career, a more insistent spiritual calling began gently guiding her towards blending her analytical mind with the world of energy healing.

This unexpecting transition led her to become a Reiki master and a certified psychic medium, specializing in the compax works of entity release.

A soul or a role sorry, A role spirit revealed was part of her sole agreement.

Further expanding her expertise, Ellie integrated the emotion code and the body code into her practice, and, following a spiritual nudge to look deeper into clients' blood work, she learned to read blood chemistry, allowing her to connect emotionally, energetically, and physiologically imbalances in a profound way, all while maintaining her lifelong residency within the small radius of her Wisconsin birthplace.

Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show my own caps team member Ellie Wise and so Ellie, Happy holidays.

How you doing, Good morning, Happy holidays.

I'm great.

How are you doing.

I am doing wonderfully.

I am I don't know if you listen to the show, I talk about you and Stephanie all the time, and high praise to both of you.

I want to tell you right off the bat, I mean, you guys are absolutely amazing members of the team.

There's a lot of people out there, you know that you know, don't believe in City Cakes or don't believe in this stuff, and I have had nothing but respect for the both of you.

You guys have absolutely blown my blown me away on our cases that we've done, knowing just amazing things that nobody should know without you know, being able to do the things that you guys can do.

So off the bat, I thank you absolutely you.

You have some very unique talents that come along with this.

Like each each medium, each psychic, each person that I have on the show has different what do you call it modalities or whatever that they work specialties.

Yeah, yeah, uh, even on the team, like each one of us you know, as you know, has different specialties that we we delve into and that allows us to work better as a team.

And uh that's that's why you know Caps work so well.

But you we don't, you know.

I was talking to you before we started recording here.

It's like, there's so much about you.

I've worked with you for let's see, what three or four years now, Yeah, something like that.

Yeah, and I'm still learning stuff about you and the stuff that you can do.

So I'm really excited to delve into this because you have you have the blood work stuff, the body code, and the was it the emotion code.

I'm sorry, I miss And there's the belief yeah.

And I'm not familiar with that, and we haven't had a guest on the show that's kind of delved into that.

So let's start with the blood work code.

The blood work stuff, what is what is that all about?

Obviously you're not taking blood samples.

Well, actually, what it is I read blood samples that people do have taken at their doctor's office and then it comes back with the results and so and they're called blood work is called actually markers, individual markers, and so what I do is I take those markers and I read them on the functional side instead of the Western medicine side.

So as the doctor's looking at you go into the doctor with complaints and issues.

You don't feel good, you don't know what's going on, and you know something's wrong and something's off, and you go into the doctor.

They run a bunch of blood work, and they come back with the markers and they say, oh, everything looks fine, there's nothing wrong.

But yet you don't feel right and you know there's something wrong.

So the Western medicine reads it, and their parameters are way out here, because you're looking at one hundred thousand people's markers, and as long as you fall within their range, they say you're fine, it's normal.

When I read them, I read them on the functional side, and it's way down here like this.

So if they're outside of my ranges, depending upon if it's higher if it's low, then I start looking at what markers correlate to that mark and it's like putting a puzzle together.

The more markers I have to look at, the better picture I get.

But then I also work with spirit to find out how much deeper do we need to go.

Once we figure out what you're going on, then we look at, well, what are they missing vitamins?

Are the missing minerals?

What you know?

Is there something going wrong in the body.

And I'm working with spirit with all of that to give a better clearcut pictures to what's going on.

Now, doctors look at things for a diagnosis so they can give medication.

I don't do diagnosis.

People can tell me what their diagnosis is.

It doesn't matter because I that's not what I'm working with.

I'm looking at what's going on in the body that we need to work with to correlate, to fix so the body can heal itself.

So that's what the blood work markers are interesting.

So it is more of an actual like blood.

See I was thinking it was more like not DNA, but more of your your your family history and kind of stuff like that.

That all falls in with the emotion called body code belief code.

Gotcha.

With blood work, they also pull in the emotion code body code belief code because they still play a part into why you're not healing.

Why those are stuck energies in the body and they take up space in the body.

When they take up space, they're putting everything else kiltered out of place, and the body can't deal with them.

So we need to release that so the body can start working on its own better.

Gotcha.

Very cool.

We you know, from a CAPS team point of view, you know, we've worked a lot of cases and it's it's we get called to certain houses and the client says, you know, oh, well, I think my house is haunted, and you know, this is whatever's going on.

There's a demon you know, usually and we go in and it's it's a lot of the time it's like this kind of stuff, not blood work, but you know, like there's something going on with the person specifically, yeah, that they need to work on.

And that's it's not as easy as clearing the house.

It's something that's deeper with the person themselves.

And that's not not trying to be you know, you know, picking on the person by any means, but it's just you know, things have happened in their life and that that that needs to work through.

But that's that's really interesting.

So staying with blood work for now, given example, like I mean, without getting too into you know, a personal case or anything like that, what do you mean when you're you're looking at the blood work, what is it that you're looking at.

I'm actually looking at an individual marker.

Like your CBC has five parts to it, and those five different parts can tell me like if you've got a viral infection or a parasite or an iron deficiency and so I'm looking at those five different markers and depending upon which one is off, is telling me what's kind of going on in the body.

And then I'll look at other markers and other panels to correlate with that, saying that yes, that is or no, we need to go in another direction, we need to look at a different panel.

So it's kind of like this puzzle.

We're putting these pieces together.

So for an example, another example would be like your vitamin D.

A range for the vitamin D in the Western medicine is somewhere between I think it's like forty to eighty something like that.

We like to see it between eighty and one hundred.

So anything below an eighty is technically out of range.

And your vitamin D in the body, we do not get enough from the food anymore, We do not get enough in the sun anymore.

The vitamin D actually runs everything in the body.

So I can pretty well guarantee you, I mean, everybody so far that I've ever looked at is low is low.

And once you start bringing that vitamin D up into the normal range, you're gonna start feeling better.

Things are going to start working better in the body.

But now when I'm working with spirit and I'm saying, Okay, yes, your D is low.

There's a thousand and one different d's out there, and so I work with Spirit to find out which vitamin D is best for your body, and then not only that, what precursors are you missing that the vitamin D is so low in the body because you need certain precursors of certain vitamins to help the D get into the cells.

So I'm working with Spirit to find out, well, what precursors are you missing?

Because blood work does not do all the testings on everything.

So that's when spirit comes into play as well.

I know the D is low, what else are we missing in the body that we need to bring that D up?

And then what specific vitamin do we need?

What brand do we need to bring that D up?

That's really cool, how you know, It's just it's it's really interesting, Like and I do want to point this out for the you know, the uh waiver disclaimer at the beginning that none of this is considered professional medical advice.

Take it for what it is.

We're not trying to you know, replace your doctor, blah blah blah.

Yeah, all right, exactly, I'm not a doctor.

I don't I do not ever tell somebody to get off of medication.

They have to work with their doctor on that.

And that's why I don't do any diagnosis of any kind.

That's not what I'm here for.

I'm here to figure out what's going on in the body, what's missing in the body, and what do we need to work with to help the body work itself.

And this this is why I want to put that disclaimer in there, because like I know that I know what you can do.

You know, like I said at the beginning the show, I've worked with you and Stephanie both in the field.

You both are amazing and have blown my mind on so many cases that it's so interesting when you take these things like I don't go to the doctor because I figure anything that the doctor is going to tell me in the five minutes that he's in the room with me, I can probably find on Google, you know.

And that's honest.

You know, I've never gone to the doctor and been like blown my mind, like oh wow, I have a you know, I have a cold.

You know, Never once have I been to the doctor and had a revelation like that.

And it's just it it like I said, it blows my mind the stuff that you guys come up with, and I know that it's legitimate, the spirit side of this stuff with you guys, and so it's it's fascinating that you're able to take the modern medicine side of this and expand it into other things and bring that spiritualism in and you know, Western civilization.

I've talked about this on other shows, you know, like is so different.

We we consider ourselves in the United States such like a melting pot of culture and you know, religions and all this stuff, but yet we have this very limited viewpoint of things like death and medicine and even certain religion that it's this is the way it is in the United States, and that just yeah, yeah, I've had this discussion with other guests and stuff as well, you know, like it just seems so weird that, you know, we we do have like other you know, like Ethan on our team, he was a funeral director for a little while, and he's talked to me about like all different like the mung culture and the funerals that the moms have and stuff is very different than what our typical uh casket in a church and a pastor and stuff.

Is it's just so interesting, these these different ways that it's done.

And the medicine side of this is absolutely fascinating as well, because here you're taking this medical science aspect and bringing in the metaphysical with it.

So when you're looking at this, I'm sorry, well I was.

What brought it into my world was I was actually taking somebody to her chemra appointments, and because she was sitting in a chair for six eight hours a day, she could not drive.

So I was driving her there and it was an hour one way, so I would sit there with her during the whole day and then drive her back.

And they would always do certain blood work up on her.

And as I'm sitting there, she was going out on her own, and so I was sitting out in the lobby.

And then she get a result back and she would show them to me, and I would hear spirits say they're missing it, they're missing it, they're missing it.

Then it got to the point she asked me to sit in on an autecologist with her because I couldn't figure out what that meant, that they're missing it.

So as they're talking, I would hear again, they're missing it.

So then I found somebody that had the functional side to blood work and sat down and started learning it and understand.

And that was what spirit was telling me.

I was that they were missing things.

They weren't connecting the dats because they were only looking at the one marker saying, oh, it's in range, it's fine, when it wasn't in a functional range and it wasn't fine.

And so that was spirit leading me to learn how to do the markers, the blood markers.

That's absolutely amazing.

Isn't that really cool?

Like I mean, like I don't have I probably do, but you know, I don't pay attention to spirit, but I get these same like things where I'll be researching something and it'll take me down a completely different path.

And I learned all this other cool stuff because I've diverted down there.

And you know, it's such a cool, cool phenomenon that you go down these things.

So with that being said, you were already doing the body code and the emotion code prior to that.

So now tell me a little bit about what those are and then tie that in.

How does this all work together?

Okay, so the emotion code would be like a level one.

We're working with emotions, emotions being stuck in the body someplace.

So you're just finding these emotions and releasing them.

Sometimes you're finding we're they're in the body and releasing it.

But you're not really deep diving the body code.

You're deep diving.

You're going into systems.

You're going into glands, you're going into the organs, you're going into the chakras, you're going into the auras.

It's much more deep diving.

And the belief code is when you're actually because when we're born, we're born pure, but as we're growing up, we're taking on the belief of parents or grandparents.

When we start going to school, we're taking on the belief of the school and socialism and all that stuff is starting to play a part.

Those are the beliefs that we take in are not necessarily true to ourselves.

So then the belief code we go in and find out what those beliefs are, what's holding them in place, and releasing all that.

So then the emotion codes like a level one, the body codes a level two, and the belief code would be a level three.

Now I've taken it deeper.

When I was actually getting my level two, which is the body code.

I was helping somebody else through cancer.

She had breast cancer, and she was going in for her chemo treatments and I was doing the body code on her, in the emotion code, and she would go in for the testings before they would actually do the chemo, and they were watching the white blood cells.

And as those white blood cells drop from the chemo, it gets to a certain level and the doctor would say, we can't do chemo today.

We have to let your body do more healing.

We'll check again in two weeks.

She was right at that cutoff point, and the doctor said, you know, we're gonna go ahead and do your chemo today.

However, if it drops again next time you come in, we're not gonna have We're not gonna be able to do it.

We're gonna have to give you a little bit of a break so your body can heal.

And she got a hold of me and she started crying.

She says, I want to get through this.

I got to get this done.

I want my life back.

What can you do?

And I sat down working with spirit, and Spirit says, well, we need to take apart the white blood cell.

So we literally found every aspect of the white blood cell, took it apart.

I took each part of that white blood cell and took it from whatever percent of unhappy it was, because I ranked it from zero to one hundred and took it up to be one hundred percent happy.

So I did that on every part of the white blood cell.

Then I put that white blood cell back together to make sure it was one hundred percent happy.

Then I put it back within her body and made sure her body was one hundred percent happy with that white blood cell.

So when she went in for her next chemo treatment and the doctors ran the numbers, he thought for sure they would not be able to do the chemo.

He comes out and looked at her.

He says, I don't know what you did.

Not only did your white blood cell stabilize, they actually went up so we can do your chemo treatment.

And he and he just said, I don't know what she did.

And she said, don't ask because you wouldn't understand.

And he just said, that's fine, doing whatever it is you're doing.

And so then going forward, I always checked to make sure her white blood cells are one hundred percent happy.

I'll check on them every day, and if something would trigger them that they start losing that.

Then I would work on it with Spirit to bring it back up to one hundred percent happy.

So but with that, I was actually going deeper than I should have been because I got yelled at by my mentor saying that's not what the body code does, and I'm thinking, but that's what Spirit's telling me, and that's what the person needed.

So I would literally when I would write up my reports, not go as it deepen my reports to make my mentor happy so I could get myarification.

So I had to do it.

I had to do for my client.

But I hadn't do it.

I had to do it and get my certification.

And trust me, it's gone much deeper than that since I've been certified.

I mean we're go into past lives of future lives.

We have parallel lives.

I mean, I work on all that stuff with Spirit, so it goes much deeper.

I've kind of created my own protocol by taking everything I do and created my own protocol.

So that's absolutely phenomenal.

I mean, like to be able to see the results, you know, like you know, I'm very techy.

I like, you know, when when you guys say, oh, spirit says yes, right, or the when we're talking to a us spirit, not necessarily just spirit, but when when a spirit of a person is there at these investigations and stuff and you say, oh, they say yes, and I'm like, well, make them, you know, make the rempod go off and it does right on cue.

With everything that you're doing, that's just whatever that means.

It means that we're getting validation on these multiple levels.

You get the dependlem, you get the my brain is not working today.

Uh, the sticks, the talking we call them talking sticks.

Okay, but you get those, you get the the rempods, you get the mf all spikes the same, and it's it's really cool.

And here you're taking that so much farther with with medical as being saying, you know, like you can you can fix the body and show it on a medical test that it has worked.

That's we We don't.

We don't actually fix the body.

We released what needs to be gone so the body can work and heal because the body technically can heal itself.

Once you get the crap out of the way that's not supposed to be there, the body can heal itself.

And that's all we're doing.

Is getting the crap out of the way.

I'm sorry I misspoke, but yeah, you're absolutely If the body can fix itself, you're just helping it do it.

And that's that's so cool.

That's so cool.

We hear like, you know, stories of that too, like you know, people people sending well wishes this energy and stuff and it helps, you know, people get through this stuff.

And you know, it's it's just amazing stories, you know.

Like I don't know, I don't I don't read like the Chicken Soup for the Soul and all that is.

That is that still a thing?

Like my my aunt used to read all those books and all these Hallmark Channel things.

They're still out there.

I don't know if new ones are out anymore, but they're still out there.

She used to she used to get them every year for Christmas.

We buy her one the new Chicken Soup for the Soul or something.

All these happy, happy stories.

Well, it's the same as when we do clearings of people that have entities.

I mean, they feel it on the spot that they feel so much different once they're cleared.

Oh, absolutely, we have I think you know, uh, well, actually we can talk talk about the one uh the one house up by Park Falls that was the younger daughter or the sorry, the granddaughter of the family that was having this entity come tour.

And we're all standing in the kitchen there in the episode, and this is ghost Town of Terror episode is what it was.

And we're all standing in the kitchen there and you're doing this entity release of this dark entity that's there, and we can literally feel when it leaves.

I mean, you have this oppression, this darkness and stuff there and for a while it got really intense.

When you got rid of there was a couple other things there that you cleared out.

We kind of didn't layers.

It wasn't just a one shot deal that time, because there's a couple of different things going on.

Yes, yeah, And then the one was in the bathroom standing there with I just want to point out if you're watching this, that the cat.

Every once in a while, I can see the tail come up on the screen.

I know, sitting here all morning and not a cat in site.

As soon as I get on the show, it's like I've got three of them in here.

Now they want to be famous, they'd like to be honest.

Yep, that's okay.

But now we had the entity and it didn't want to leave, and it got it physically got really intense there, like where you felt kind of where I'm sorry, I guess I'll speak for myself.

I felt kind of sick and just kind of like apprehensive, anxious, and then all of a sudden, I didn't know that you were done or whatever, but all of a sudden, it was just like and this this energy just lifted and you're just calm.

For anybody, I hope that nobody else has to experience this, you know, in these situations and stuff.

But if you ever are in a situation like this, it's it's you could feel it.

There's no other way to describe it.

So yeah, yeah, they can be really intense, but you can really feel the difference once they're gone.

But then, like you know, like we mentioned again in the beginning, you know, these things they come back and for whatever reason and stuff, sometimes different ones, not necessarily the same one, but that's what it's.

It's important to do the body code and and all that stuff to keep yourself safe in that.

So that's an awesome transition.

So, uh, the other point of my show today is Ellie, I want to have you on because you do all the clearings and the negative entity releases and stuff for our team.

And uh, I've had mister Chad Lewis on our show here in the past, and I absolutely adore Chad as well, and he talks about all these the holiday season here and the Solstice, and a lot of people may or may not realize.

I assume if we're watching the show, we've probably realized that this is a very dark, spiritually charged time of year and that the holidays, the solstice, the winter Solstice is just as dark and negative as what we think of when we think of Halloween, because it is the darkest day of the year, it's the longest day of the year.

And you have a lot of these rituals that we have in our homes for the holidays and stuff.

A lot of these traditions and stuff come from trying to bring light and joy and stuff into this and celebrating that from now on, this is going to be a brighter time of the year and it's going to get lighter and and that stuff.

So it's very I asked you on for this specifically because you know, when we're going to all these holiday events and holiday gatherings and stuff, and mixing with people of different you know, emotions and backgrounds and things.

How can we protect ourselves from these dark emotions you know that people have.

It's a very a very dark time of year for that as well.

So how do we protect ourselves in the holiday season.

There's a number of different ways.

And you talk about the veil, the veil.

The veil used to be much thicker after the first of November.

It always got thinner, like in the month of October for Halloween, and then it would get thicker after the first of November.

That's not so much the case anymore.

The veil is getting very thin, and it's getting very thin throughout the full year now.

And so you're having us that you're feeling between Christmas and New Year's well actually from Thanksgiving to New Year's and that it's it's a stressful time as much as it's the holidays, and we think of it as being happy and joyful and family and friends, and it's also very stressful.

And so the stress that we feel isn't always just our own, but we also feel other people's stress, and so there's a lot of things that we can do to help with that.

The first thing is you need to raise your vibrations.

The higher you can raise your vibrations, the less you feel of that darker side.

So raising your vibrations is the best thing to do.

Sunlight, even though even though the days are shorter, spend some time out in the sunlight and then hug a tree.

If you live in northern like here in Wisconsin, we've got probably close to a foot of snow on the ground.

You can't be walking outside and bear feet on the ground, but you can still go hug a tree, and that energy from the tree will help raise your vibrations as well.

Keep in mind that for every light, there's always dark.

You got the ying and the yang, the light and the darkness, So use that darkness side to find out what part of you needs to be healed and working on healing your inner self.

You may have an inner child that needs to be healed.

You may have an inner hurt from something you went through back when you were a kid or in your teens or twenties or whatever that needs to be healed.

Healing those darker sides will help raise your vibration as well.

For this time of the year, listening to music that makes you happy is an awesome thing to do to raise your vibration.

During the winter months, when our houses are closed up, the air in the houses become stale.

They get caught in the corners, especially up in the ceilings, in the corners of the ceilings, or along the corners of the floor and the boards on the floor.

Take a broom and sweep deep into those corners and get that energy moving so that you don't have that stale energy sitting there, or taking the broom and up into the ceiling in the corners to move that energy.

Opening up a window and letting that stale energy go out so you can get fresh air into the house.

So those would be a few things you could do to help you get through the darkness and the this time of the year gets to be kind of a drag because we're kind of caught inside the house.

We're not out enjoying the every day of like riding a bike or going swimming or boating or whatever.

We're kind of caught in the house.

We're a second house especially are coming through.

So there's a number of things and those are just a few things you can do to help raise your vibration, to make the changes to get you through what you need to get through.

If that helps, What about like you know, we're we're doing a lot of family and you know, friends and gatherings and stuff like that.

How can we help protect ourselves in situations where we're at these events, you know, with a lot of other like I said, with a lot of other emotions and stuff going on.

How can we protect ourselves from a lot of the impacts and stuff out there that are overwhelmed by a lot of people and stuff.

What can we do to try to build ourself up in these social gatherings.

If you're going to a social gathering or if you're running to a store, envision yourself in a white light, and that's a protective white light, visioning it coming down, protecting yourself, covering yourself up completely with that white light, and just putting it into the universe.

Anything that comes at me bounces off of this white light, goes back to where it came from, so you're not taking it in.

So that's one of the things you do.

Another thing you could do is when you get home from a gathering, if you're feeling like you might have taken something on, take a shower, let the water come down, hi head and imagining it taking it all off the bodies, that water's coming down and imagining it going down the drain and when it goes on the drain is going down into the ground and down to gaya for the guy to purify it.

So that's another thing you could do.

Drink plenty of water.

Water is a good energy within the body to keep things flowing so things don't get stuck in the body.

Being festive, wearing bright colors and and then crystals are another great thing that you can wear that will help keep you clear, like especially like if that's selenite crystals, that will help keep you clear.

And then there's some others out there that you can wear for protective Lewis is a great one, or amethyst is a great one, though they're amethyst is purple.

It's a beautiful color you can wear that's a protective one as well.

So there's things you can do with that as well.

If that helps, absolutely absolutely, it's it's you know, like it's very much intent.

You know you have to it takes practice, you know, to to maintain this and you know to to put that white light around you and maintain it.

You know, constantly think about it and practice it and stuff, you know, So it's something that you can do year round, you know, just as as a protective and you know, anytime that you're feeling down, there's.

There's certain stores I walk in that before I walk in, I put myself into the white bubble.

I'm not going to name the stores, but.

Laugh we already know.

But I I'm actually put myself into a white bubble because I know what's in there and I'm not bringing anything.

And then when you walk out of the store, just simply say I'm not taking any negative energies with me.

I'm leaving them behind.

But you're right, an intent is huge.

The universe will not step in to help you until you ask them because we all have free will, so we all have that choice.

So until you break that free will and ask the universe to help you, it's not going.

To Absolutely I agree.

That's fascinating.

I do want to bring up here because we're talking about what can you do to you know, teach people, what can they do with stuff?

And this hasn't been announced yet, this is supposed to come out in January, but because you're here, we are one of the amazing workshops that we are going to have this year at the Encryptids, Anomalies and the Paranormal Convention Saturday, May ninth in Fond Delac, Wisconsin is miss Ellie wisen Cell and you can take a actual class workshop with Ellie at this event.

It's a separate fee and it's it's kind of all about this, what is it that you're going to be a talking about and teaching people?

Ely, what I'm actually going to be doing is kind of teaching you different ways of how you can communicate with spirits.

Some of the different tools that are out there, and they're very simple tools that you can get them in most local stores and they're not not that expensive, like a deck of cards, the oracle cards, the tarot cards, the talking sticks, the pendulums, the Ouiji board that gets so misrepresentative that I want to talk about the Ouigi board.

These are simple tools that you can use to communicate with spirit if you're looking at trying to open yourself up with more communication with them.

And then I'm also going to talk about how protection, different protections on what you can do to protect yourself because if you're not careful when you're opening yourself up and using these tools, and it's not just the Owegi board.

You can this can happen with any tool you have.

You can actually bring in the darker spirits to me.

That's unfortunately.

That's how I opened myself up was I got out my pendulum and I asked a certain question and I got the dark entities coming in.

So I'm teaching also how to protect yourself so you don't have that happen.

So that's what I'll be doing at that class.

That is very much intent.

You know, I talk about it in my Exploring Paranormal presentation as well.

Is you know, like you said, when you when you open up a Ouiji board, people make the mistake of saying, is anyone here with me?

And you have just thrown that door, why orto anything to come and talk to you.

You want to be very with who you ask to communicate and when and where.

So yeah, that was my mistake when I pull out the pendulum.

I never worked with one before.

I had a couple of them, and I had something going on in my life and I pulled it out.

I just simply said, is there anybody else that that wants to talk to me?

And the first person that came across was somebody that was that I was supposed to connect with us.

She's someone that actually helped open up the door for me and the agreement we had made in a past life.

But then after I got done talking to her, then I also brought up that question again, and then I had the dark entities come through because I didn't know what I was doing, and I was just opening up anybody out there, and of course yes there is there's always Spirits are all over and they're not always all good.

So man, you open up that door.

If you don't open it up correctly, you don't know what you're gonna get.

And I learned that one the hard way.

But that was also part of my path, was to learn how to deal with entities, and that's how, and so I became an expert with it.

The spirit was not giving me anything else until I became an expert with that, and so I finally had enough people tell me to become the expert and to deal with it.

And then as soon as I did and I agreed to, then everything else started flooding in for me.

I think that's really responsible of spirit as well, you know, because like if you don't don't have the knowledge and you try and just jump right into this and think that you're gonna go and you're gonna, like you said, miss stuff and you learn things at the course and the time when you're supposed to, and it all leads to where we're going.

And that's that's just so cool to think about that.

Yeah, absolutely, but yeah we are we are not live today, just want to bring it up again.

We are recorded show today, but coming up January first, we are going to have tickets on sale for CAPCN in fond Lac, and like I said, Ellie's going to have a workshop there.

It is a separate ticket for that event other other than your general admission, just because these are actual classes, not just a presentation.

So they're interactive.

You can sit and ask questions more one on one, smaller group of people and very very hands on and stuff for a lot of them stuff.

So it's a workshop instead of a presentation, and tickets for that go on sale January first.

So if you can't make it out there, Ellie, you have a website as well.

And like you said, if you I bring this up midway here or not miodway, but right now because we're not live, so people can't ask questions and the comments and stuff.

But so I apologize if you're watching this live because it is live on Christmas Day, but we were actually recording this December third, so there you go.

So we're very festive early.

I'm very festive.

Ellie, you look festive.

You look nice.

Just don't have to.

Cool you get the hand.

I didn't think of that.

Yeah, that's that's okay, it's okay, I forget it.

But your your website is in the show notes.

You can also go to Wisconsin caps dot com and you can find Ellie that way.

She is.

You can get her email off of the Meet our Team section and Ellie is also on our Trusted Affiliates page on the website.

So if you're looking or come out to capcom even if you don't to take the workshop, Ellie will still be there and you can have a little chat with her as well.

So yep, I'll be there all day.

I appreciate that.

I want to ask you something because we were talking about you're talking about the veil thinning and stuff, and I was just on a show for Thanksgiving when we're taping this a couple days ago here and it was me and a couple other people from the network and stuff, as well as Doug Hicheck, our producer on the shows and stuff here, and they brought up a question and I'm going to pose it to you because so we've been having a lot of these electromagnetic storms off of the Sun lately, you know, with the Aurora borealis and the northern lights and stuff has been really heavily And they asked in the show if you know we've seen an uptick in paranormal or cryptodactivity or anything because of the Aurora borealis and the solar flares and that.

So in your opinion, do you think that that the electromagnetic storms from the Sun and the high activity of that has an effect on the veil finning.

Is that why we're still seeing this?

I do.

I feel that's because of the veil finning.

Yes, And I do feel there's been an uptick because we dealt with a few crypti things that I've never dealt with before, and so it's yes, I do.

I feel that it makes a difference in that it is affecting everything.

So with a veil thinning, you aren't we are seeing more lights maanter.

In fact, it wasn't it just a few days ago or last week we saw more lights here in Wisconsin, and that's not the norm for us.

So I watched these people post on Facebook and stuff about the Northern lights, the Aurora bory alis and stuff, and people are like, oh, it's so cool.

It was so bright and so great.

And I'm like, if you knew what that was, you wouldn't be excited about it.

Because let me let me break that down scientifically here.

So, the Sun puts off high electromagnetic field.

It is radiation coming from the Sun that hits the Earth, and when it hits the atmosphere, it creates this electromagnetic storm in the atmosphere that creates the Northern lights effect.

If that gets strong enough, if we get a strong enough em pulse off the Sun, it will knock out our electricrid all of our computers, all of our cell phones, and literally fry our technology.

So please please cheer for the Northern lights because.

But yes, you're right, you're very right.

Yes, yeah, people, but most people don't realize that.

No, I know, it's it's it just boggles my mind, you know, Like I think most of the people that listen to my should you're you're here for a reason.

You know a lot of this stuff.

And it's interesting because each show, yeah, there's a lot of the same stuff that we hear from the same people and that, but even myself, I get to pull little factoids out of each episode and I'm like, wow, that was really cool and that stuck with me something that I learned or something I never thought of before.

And it's absolutely great to have those experiences and stuff.

But I don't know that, you know, these average people that walk around there's so much to science that again going back to the being a techie and stuff of you know, liking my tech and proving things in a scientific way and showing it even though we know that there's metaphysical and all that.

It's really interesting that science proves all this stuff and people don't know it.

You know, all the stuff going on ascern and all the all the multi dimensions and everything and go ahead.

You know, everybody is a psychic, everybody, but they're not tuning into it because the world has so taken them over that they're just trying to live their day to day lives and so they're not seeing anything else around them, so they're not realizing what those lights can do to us, or what can happen if they actually all come through like that, because they're just trying to survive in their day to day life.

So I understand that part of it.

Our lives have gotten so much busier when I think back to the Yeah, I'm going to date myself back to the seventies, how care free everything was, and you worked an eight hour day and you got out and you were just gone for the day, playing and what have you.

That's not the case anymore.

That's just not the case.

We're so bombarded with everything with the life and everything that's going on and the government and the world, and we're just getting so much more information, so much faster on a day.

The basis that it's constantly hitting us that we're just kind of tuning into ourselves because we don't want to deal with everything that's going on, so we're not really realizing what's going on, if that makes sense.

Absolutely, we're burnt out.

Yes, that's a good way to put it.

We are very much burnt out.

I mean just it is so so much so that you're seeing this trend of people going from uh, you know, the touchscreen phones, people are getting away from that, going back to just like the candy bar stick phones or flip phone flip phones.

Yes, yes, I've recently heard about that too.

Is that more people going back to the flip phones?

Yeah, that's that's just amazing.

I remember when we used to get like the Black Friday papers, Remember when you actually got the ads Black Friday papers that don't exist anymore.

And I'm flipping through there and there's a Walgreens ad and in the Walgreens ad there's this cool new adapter and what it was is it plugged into the phone jack of your your cell phone and it was an old handheld receiver.

Really I didn't do that, Yeah, And I was like, oh man, we've come full circle.

And you know, kids today are thinking this is this is the most amazing thing ever, like, oh my.

God, technology, new technology, yes, yeah.

Yeah, new technology.

You know, you don't remember how you used to buy the twenty foot cord so you could go and talk on the phone in a different room in your house, you know, or I'll.

Date myself further back having a phone that was multiple families on one phone, one line.

So you pick up the phone and somebody else is talking in a different household because you're sharing a line that was back in those seventies too, late sixties, Yes, it still existed back and then.

So I mean, I like to think that I'm I'm a lot more old soul than a lot of people.

Like I really like the old days, you know, like you watch the old TV shows and movies where you have a you know, this this lady sitting in her room and she goes, hello, switchboard, who can I connect you with?

And then she physically plugs it into the different phones and stuff, And I mean, like that was that was the good old days?

Now yourself.

When when I first moved out of the house, I actually had a rotary phone and it worked everything.

I knew how to use it and everything.

So I just thought they were cool and I had one.

And the only reason I got rid of it was because we tried to order pizza on it one night and you can't press a button like press one to whatever, and we ended up having to go get not a different use one of our other phones because we had multiple phones, but we had to go get a different phone to call to order pizza because you couldn't press one on a rotary phone and you could call the pizza place.

But yeah, memories, yeah, the good old days.

Yeah.

Oh man, it's just so like you drive down the road and you know even our billboards.

You remember, like the the Burma Shave.

You know, you used to have every every mile, you'd have one more sign for the Burma Shave or some other companies and stuff that would have like a line of something and then you'd read the next one and the next one as.

You go, like reading a story kind of.

Yeah.

And now nowadays you have these led screens and stuff on the road and you four.

Or five different stores are different.

As you're driving, you're watching them flip.

Yeah, that's just terrible.

This is why we're staying in our houses and not going out anymore.

Still want to do it?

It's it's being bombarded.

Oh yeah, I want to go back to, uh, the solar flares and stuff.

Now, when we were talking about the the veil thinning, do you think that the veil is thinning because of the solar flare or is which way were you on that is?

It?

Is?

It is the veil thinning because of the solar flare or is there more solar fail flares because the veil is thinning.

I feel like there's more solar flares because the veil is thinning.

I think the veil is thinning because of the direction everything is going in.

If you think about it, we have there's special kids out there, and I can't think about what they're called.

They have they have a special name to them.

There's much.

You have a lot more kids that are much more open to the spiritual world and and so things are opening up.

You have a lot more impaths today than what you used to have, and I just think everything is changing.

So I think it's because the veil is spinning, is why we have the more flares.

So back in the day, again, we're going to date ourselves here, but back in the day, I've done enough.

Well, this is even before my time, so I can't I just researched.

Yeah, no, I think this way before your time too.

Okay, So you have the whole spiritual movement, right, you had these seances and you know, the people would go to these parlors and this was like the big thing to do back in the day, like the eighteen hundreds or you know, the early nineteen hundreds and stuff back then.

Do you think that the veil what we're seeing today with like you said, the kids are being brought up by parents who are interested in this stuff and open to it.

So you have this generational opening of minds and more openness instead of, you know, the parents saying no, there's no such thing as this stuff and closing it off.

Do you think that back in the spiritualist time we had this same amount of openness.

I don't think so.

I mean it was there.

I truly believe it was there.

But back in the day, if you were classified as a witch, you were burned at the stake, and so it wasn't so open.

I mean even back in the eighties when I was getting into all this stuff in the nineties, and even even twenty years ago, you had to know somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody to get you a reading with a medium.

I mean, you were going down into the tunnels of you're going through doors that it's like, am I putting myself someplace I don't need to be he or something.

You know, you had to know somebody that somebody to talk to a medium to have a reading done.

And that was only twenty years ago.

It's not like today.

It's all over.

I mean, you can type something in the Internet and you're gonna get all the information, and you're gonna you're gonna find any medium you want to find on the internet.

Twenty even twenty years ago, that wasn't the case.

You don't know somebody that knew somebody.

So I agree, like we, I grew up right down the street from a psychic medium, like a you know, the the light up in the window, it's a psychic medium gallery open, you know, those kind of places.

And and to me, the place felt like one of those places, you know, like when you drive past, like a strip club or one of the adult stores or something.

It just felt like, you know, you don't you don't want to look at that place because you don't want to be associated with that, and you know it.

And I don't know why it felt that way, but it just felt like that kind of same dirty adults energy, because that's how.

You were raised, honestly, well, but that's on a social on the on the social side, so that played a factor in it for you.

Back back way back, if you were classified as a witch, you were burned at the stake.

That's not the case anymore.

You don't have to worry about that.

And that's why you can find them a medium all over the place, is because that's not something to worry about anymore.

So.

But I felt that what you were saying social played a part of that, that it was still coming around, that I was still seeing things the way you were talking about that felt dirty and and and yes, for some reason, when you walked into a place like that, they had the dimming of the lights and you know, that was kind of like to make that feel of we're different, We're going to get to the information, and you know, it's just and that's what TV does.

It's how TV plays a fact with it too.

Absolutely, I was just thinking that too.

You like you see in these movies you go to the dark back room and the person with the wall and the beaded door cards.

And now now I'm sure there's there's a couple shows on TV that are like cop dramas where one of the main characters is a medium.

Yes, getting them information they need.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's it's such a swing and it's it's just so cool to see like this is this is becoming more and more mainstream and accepted, and you know, I know, people ask me on the shows all the time, like in the comments, you know, is there more things coming?

You know?

Like is this more prevalent?

Are is the veil thinning?

All stuff?

And I say, you know, I don't think that it.

It is, but I don't think that's it.

I think that it's just becoming more socially acceptable to talk about these things, to have the big encounter, to be able to talk about it publicly.

There's the less ridicule of all these things.

Yes, yes, And then being a medium.

Anybody who wants to be a medium nowadays can be one if they work hard at trying to figure things out and connect them to spirit it self.

There was a time they said in order to be a medium you it had to run through the bloodline.

Well, I know where my mediumship came from, through the bloodline, and back in the day, my grandfather never talked about it, my mother never talked about it.

I've got all the abilities.

My sister has the abilities, both of my kids have the abilities, and my five grandkids have it.

I've got two that have a lot of abilities and the other three are kind of like I think they'll come in time.

So that plays a factor too, is we're much more open nowadays.

I've talked to my grandkids who are very tight, very young, and I've talked to them about it because they've seen spirit and they've seen operations and it's here's a crap out of them.

So I talked to him about it.

My parent, my mother never talked to me about it.

My grandfather never talked to me about it because you didn't talk about it back in the day.

Well, let's let's talk about one of the one of the cases that we've worked.

It's not on an episode, but the trailer house that we went to, and yeah, we were walking through the house and the client in there is saying, you know, I lived in this house and I had all this stuff there, and then I moved to the next house and it all, you know, all these spirits are there, and now I moved here and this is all here.

And he goes, well, if I move, will it it fix the problem?

And You're like, whoa, because it's not the house, it's you.

And I think a lot of this stuff is, you know, people with the abilities don't understand that they're seeing paranormal and having these interactions because they have these abilities and you know, I've said this one hundred times on the show.

Once you have that paradigm shifting experience, whether it's seeing a UFO, seeing a cryptids, seeing a ghost, your brain, whether you intended to or not, says either I'm absolutely insane and I'm hallucinating, or I really saw what I thought I see and I don't want to be insane.

So if I saw what I saw, what else is out there?

And all that does is it flips that little switch that you've been told your whole life that this isn't real, this isn't acceptable.

You flip that switch that says this is real, and now you see it all over because you're open to it again.

Yes, yes, you've opened it up in the universe gives it to you.

Yes, But but then so many people don't understand that they need to learn how to protect themselves or how to need a lot of times, if you're getting just an entity and you clear the entity and then you get something else.

When I clear them, Michael really gets rid of them.

They don't come back.

But there's something going on in you that needs to be healed.

That because you're not healed, your aura is open, and that allows other ones in again.

So clearing once maybe okay for a while, But if you've got something that needs to be healed, chances are in time you need to get something else coming in because they're just all over the place and people don't understand they need to be healed, they need to have work done.

Look at it like this as as a physical aspect, right, So you get a splinter, like a really bad splinter, and it's shoved in your arm and you pull it out, your splinter's gone, and you think everything's great.

Well, then that gets infected.

So you wash it out, you clean it up.

Oh it's all better now, and it gets infected again because you're not you know, sewing up the hole or patching it, you're just cleaning it off.

And yeah, it's going to keep coming back and keep getting infected again and again.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Or there's something going on in the hereditaria inherited that through the family lineage that if you don't go back to the family lineage and clear it out in the family lineage, it's going to affect you again.

So that's the same concept.

Yes, those cutting ties that we hear about.

Yeah, yeah, it just came to me it's the Indigo Kids.

If you hear about the Indigo Kids, they're very There's a lot of them out there, and that's part of spiritual opening up for everybody, is the Indigo Kids.

So that was their name.

I couldn't think of their names.

I have heard that that term before those Yeah, very cool, very cool.

So we are coming up here on the end of the show.

I apologize that we are not live in studio today.

We want to spend time with our families on Christmas, and as much as I love Ellie, I don't see you on Christmas.

So but nope, that's why we're here today.

So hopefully you guys, I want to thank you all for joining us here on Christmas or listening to us after the fact.

But again, if you guys had questions throughout the show, I apologize that we're not here live to take those questions.

But Ellie would be happy to answer your questions either at our convention coming up in Fondlac, or you can reach out email her and check it out.

Ellie, tell us about a little bit about everything that you do.

You know on your website, the services that you offer, and how people can reach out to you.

The easiest is just it's my email's Ellie Wisensell at gmail dot com.

My website is Elliewisensel dot com.

And it's gotten to the point that I have to do this.

Type in Elle Wisensell and hit search and I'll come up.

You're welcome, Yeah, thank you.

You can type Ellie and caps and she'll probably come up to at this point.

So a lot of what we talked about today is what I do.

I offer individuals.

So if you want if you want just an entity clearing, I can I offer that.

If you want to get more in depth, I offer sessions for emotion code, body and I do you usually do emotion coald, body code and believe code together because they kind of intertwine together.

It's kind of hard to do one without the other ones.

But I do offer services for just that, and then I offer services just for the blood reading, and then I do offer services where it's all kind of tied together, so it kind of depends upon what the person needs.

I always offer a twenty minute free console where we can sit down and go over what is going on, what's the best route for you, and to help you out the best what does it you specifically need because if you if you don't need blood work, I'm not going to offer to you because you don't need it.

But if you need to do that now you that's fine.

But if there's something else going on and spirituall kind of let us know, I'll let you know what's going on and then we pick, we figure out what's best for you as an individual what you need.

And again I cannot recommend Ellie and Stephanie both you guys absolutely.

I think you guys are amazing at what you do.

One hundred percent have my backing and everything, and you know, there's there's a few people that not that I don't trust everyone or you know, other people and stuff, but I have worked with you guys very closely on a lot of cases, and one hundred percent legit, one hundred percent what you guys do.

There's no way that you could know the things or do the things that you do if you weren't.

So it's been an incredible journey and there are days just like what the hell am I doing with this?

And there are days that it's like I'm learning something new all the time.

Like I said, when when something needs to come in, Spirit throws an throws it at me and then it's sometimes I figure out and I'm always asking spirit.

I mean, I'm always asking spirit for help to show me, to take me down the directions I need to go, and to make sure they put in front of me what I need to know.

So yeah, it's been incredible.

Absolutely, it's been absolutely a blessing heaving you on my team as well.

So oh thank you.

I mean you've brought things to me that i've before you the cat and all the crippets and the aliens and all that.

It's like, yeah, I didn't have a whole lot to do with any of that until I started working with you and under you, and it's like, oh, yeah, I knew of this stuff, and I've heard of all this stuff and I'm dealing with this stuff.

Okay.

We have had some incredible adventures together.

We have, We really have.

And there are times we walked down it's like I'm not ready to go, let's go back.

Absolutely, in some places we can't get out of fast enough.

That is true too, That's been very true.

But I will uh, we don't need to to get into it, but I will mention the house that you literally just stood next to the refrigerator the entire time.

You know, thatator was my shield.

Yes, that was a great, great investigation.

So yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's another one.

Just literally walking through the threshold of that place, just thinking about it makes my skin crawl.

So yeah, yeah, yeah, I was so glad I happened to be standing next to that refrigerator because when I took a step back, it was just like it cut everything off and then I could actually think and figure things out that Yeah, that refrigerator was my shield that day, and I never thought I need a refrigerator to shield me.

I'm glad we have these memories together.

Awesome.

Well, again, it's been It's been absolutely a blast finally having you on my show, and we're gonna have to.

I think we need to have an all caps episode eventually and just kind of go over some of the fun investigations and stuff that we've had, and I think the audience would really like that sometime live where we can interact and stuff and.

Fun.

That'd be fun because there's stuff we do that yeah you're you're bittering everything, but you don't always make it into something.

So yes, i'd be fun to talk about some of them, because some of them are pretty intense, yeah, and a lot of fun.

Yeah.

And the thing is is, you know some of these cases, the private home investigations, you know, you wonder like, well, why are we putting this out for the public.

Well, for one, we do have permission from the homeowners, the client and stuff to use this footage.

They have to sign a release and stuff before you get into any of that.

That's why some of this stuff we can't go into detail about because it's not an episode or whatever.

But we learn something and it's important because we can teach you this is what happened, this is what's causing it, this is how to deal with it through the investigations that we do with these clients.

And I think that's more important than just going out in ghost hunting.

You know, we're showing you, like, if you're experiencing this, this is possibly what it is, and this is how you can help without having to reach out and you know, make yourself look like you're crazy or that you don't want to tell people you're having these experiences.

You can watch the show and go that's like me and I made up.

Yep.

Definitely awesome, all right, Ellie, I will not take up any more of your time here today.

I appreciate it.

Thank you for spending the day with me.

And I hope everyone, I hope you have anyone.

I thank you.

All right, we'll talk to you later, Ellie, Okay, bye.

All right, guys, that is our episode for today.

I hope you guys have an awesome holiday, a merry Christmas and whatever you celebrate.

I hope it's wonderful and safe and happy for you guys.

And uh, next week's Chris Christmas New Year's episode will also be pre recorded, and I should, if things go well, have Stephanie Lynn from our team on that episode.

So hopefully she comes on and you know, gets her button gear and records with me, so we will see her then.

But you got that to look forward to until next time.

Guys.

Remember we're all part of the paranormal spectrum.

Take care, be well, happy holidays.

I'll see you next week.

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