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Objects in my house kept disappearing, so I installed a camera.

I think I caught someone in my house.

Not sure if I'm using the right flare.

But anyways, this is a throwaway I made to be safe.

Recently I've been having a weird experience in my apartment.

Random objects keep disappearing and then I find them behind the cuburb in my bedroom.

For example, my anti mosquito device went missing and I had to buy a new one.

The next day I found it stuck behind the cuburb.

Then my neck pillow that I always use when traveling disappeared again.

I found it after a couple of days in the same place, though I still haven't managed to get it out because it's cramped in there.

This hadn't happened for about two weeks until abruptly stopped four days ago.

I decided to take action and install cameras in my living room and bedroom.

Well, not really cameras, but specifically the Alfred app on an old iPhone I have.

Basically you install the camera on 2 phones, your main one and an old one, and set up one as the reviewer and the other one as a camera.

I did this and while sleeping I caught something that sent shivers down my spine.

I was woken up by the sound of an object falling to the ground, like a really loud thud.

I got up to investigate but found nothing.

After making a trip through the apartment, I went back to sleep.

The next morning I entered the app to find that it recorded 3 events in the living room photos by motion activation, presumably around the time I was sleeping and somewhere at 8:00 PM to I was very tired.

FTR it was pretty dark in the room so the low light was turned on.

This and also this is what I caught.

And then he posts a picture of what he caught.

And to be honest I don't really see anything.

I mean it looks like flowers and a couch.

Unless I'm an idiot, which I kind of am, but I really don't see anything.

This looks like a flower vase and then a couch and you know, a wall in the background and then a painting on the other wall.

Then he says also and also this.

So let's take a picture or a look at the other picture.

And in this one I also don't see anything so I wonder what he caught.

So I guess he'll reveal it.

Maybe I'm an idiot, maybe you guys were saying hey look it's right there.

But anyways, it took me a while but my theory is that the first one has something underneath the piano while the second one has this shadow on the bottom.

I am beyond terrified now and I literally just spent 5 minutes like staring at these photos and I can't see what he's talking about.

I don't see where the piano is or something underneath the piano and I also don't see a shadow on the bottom like you guys might be screaming at your like screen right now being like how do you not see it?

But I don't see anything.

It looks like a obviously very creepy.

It's like very dark and green and night visiony.

But I don't really see anything to be honest.

Well, let's keep reading.

So he continues to say there were no signs of breaking in.

The door was locked from the inside.

The only thing that was open was a window, but it's pretty high from the ground so it'd be almost impossible for someone to climb.

Told my dad to come stay with me tonight.

Can anyone share some thoughts as to what this might be?

And then the OP gives us an update saying update 1.

Woke up an hour ago, asked my dad to check the place again, turns out he already did so a few hours before I woke up.

I checked the camera footage but didn't find anything.

I even left a lamp on to have better lighting in the rooms, but nothing was caught.

Window was open intentionally because my dad set the painful rat traps in case someone did in fact enter my apartment through the window.

We'll keep this updated if anything interesting happens.

And then he continues saying some additional info because I can't keep replying to all the comments.

I don't have any pets, I don't take any pills at all.

I don't sleepwalk.

High Co levels could be a possibility but I don't suffer from all the symptoms.

I don't get tired.

What I wrote on my post was that I was tired that day because of my work plus my period which is a literal pain and I don't get headaches when I'm in the house.

There aren't any wild animals around my house, just some birds.

If it was a bag that got in I would have noticed it immediately.

Only the window was open but it had the grid down, the one you installed to keep insects and bugs out.

So even if a bat forced its way inside my house, it would have to RIP the grid off, which isn't the case since it was untouched when I woke up.

Again, sorry for the bad quality.

This is just an amateur security camera app that I installed on an older phone because I didn't want to spend money immediately on actual cameras.

I live in a relatively quiet place, just a small town, so criminality is low and I've never needed to use security cameras until now.

Probably the most obvious one.

This isn't fiction.

Hopefully this solves any questions you might have.

Sorry for the formatting, I'm on mobile.

And now let's get into some comments.

Someone says I can't see absolutely anything from the pictures.

Do you have the video footage?

And all right, at least I'm not alone on this and I'm not the only one who can't say anything.

But then the OPI replies to the saying I should.

But the events recorded only showed 3 pictures, the two above and another one that had something that blocking the camera.

And then the OP shares a third image, which I'm really not sure why he didn't include that in the main text.

And it looks like in this picture, it's someone's hand in front of the camera, which is very creepy.

I mean, to me, it looks like someone's wrist coming from the right side and then a hand and four or five fingers.

Very creepy.

But yeah, it's still just like doesn't look like anything that that's the most damning to me.

But before, I didn't really see anything.

This looks like a pan to me.

And then some people keep replying to this saying just so we know that we are seeing 2 questions.

Number one, are these the whole pictures or are you cropping or editing them #2 The piece you scribbled down in the picture, is that the poster behind the couch?

I just asked so we know where the camera is looking and which way is up.

And then the opie reply saying no these aren't edited.

I only crop the parts around the image, the icons in the app and the carrier on the top of the phone.

Number 2, the scribbling is on the poster above the couch.

I just scribbled it because there's a name written on it and all right, so that's pretty weird that there is a third image he wasn't sharing.

It looks kind of like a hand.

Could it be a bug?

For sure.

I mean, maybe it could be a bug flying in front of the camera and it just looks weird.

I mean, it looks more like a hand to me.

But someone kind of gives a deep dive into all three of the photos.

So let's get into that.

Someone says I rotated your images so they would be easier to understand.

Image one, image 2 and image 3.

We've seen these all, but I'll put them on screen now.

And I really don't think there's anything there in these images.

Low light camera modes have lots of static and noise because of the poor sensor data they're trying to use.

Then combined with image compression it will create blotches and lines where there is nothing.

This static and camera noise can definitely lead to the motion sensor going off by itself.

Also, the dark spot in the bottom of image 2 is the shadow of the couch.

You can see that compared to image 1, the lighting is different.

Look at the shadow from the pillow and then he says edit to the camera movement theory is questionable.

OP cropped each photo out of an app slightly differently to hide personal details in the phone interface, which may explain some shift between photos.

Edit three to make sense of photo three, I've overlaid it onto photo one where it seems to go and then he shares the overlay and which makes a lot of sense.

Now you can see the the flower pot and where the hand sort of thing would be coming out above the couch.

But again, I just, I'm not convinced that this is anything.

And then he shares a second photo saying and with half transparency to show how they align.

And this just kind of shows how they aligned together.

So the Opie cropped it from the original 1 and that's how it looks.

And then edit 4, just so we are all on the same page, I made a quick mock up of what people are talking about with the arms thing in image 1.

I think it's pretty obvious it's not arms, but I wanted people to know what we were talking about.

And then he shows an arms mock up.

And to be honest, I just don't see that.

You can see how he adds like a little head and then a hand and someone's like kind of popping up their head and then they're kind of like laying down.

I, I, I really do think that's a reach.

I really don't think that's anything and then someone reply saying the pictures make so much more sense rotated.

I couldn't understand what I was looking at before someone else says thank goodness for you rotating them.

I had no idea what I was looking at but yeah I see the creepy looking arms holding what looks like a head.

But then after that, it's just a blurry bad quality and someone moving the camera around even if they were supposedly asleep.

And then someone asks a great question saying, do you have a carbon monoxide detector?

And I see this in the comments very often.

People say, well, why does that matter?

Well, if you have carbon monoxide leaking into your house, it can make you hallucinate.

It can make you feel very tired.

It can just make you not like yourself, not remember things and forever and watching.

If you don't have a carbon monoxide detector, please get one because you can very easily die from a carbon monoxide leak.

And so a detector could literally save your life and it also can make you hallucinate and do other crazy stuff.

So that's why this question has validity.

And then the opiates response is rather concerning saying no.

But is there a chance there could be a high Co levels in my house?

How would they be related to this incident?

And then someone replies saying there is a famous incident from R slash legal advice where OP thought their landlord was sneaking into the apartment and leaving creepy notes.

It was elevated Co levels that caused OP to do it themselves and they had no memory of it.

You should really look into this even if you do not think it is happening.

High Co levels can literally kill you in your sleep.

And then someone asked saying what's up with the kuburb and how you can't get the neck pillow out?

Could there be a critter living in the house and taking things through that kuburb?

And then the OP says, I don't know, it's just that it's too far away and the space is too thin for me to get it out.

And then the OP shows a picture.

This is kind of the only reason I added this because I think it's very interesting that that's where the neck pillow thing is.

I mean, like, let's just say like the latter is true in saying there is somebody in the O PS house.

Why would they do that?

Like that just doesn't mix.

Like why would someone breaking into someone's house while they're there just hide stuff behind a cover?

To me it seems like possibly carbon monoxide poisoning and doing something completely out of your mind and doing something illogical and just bringing that to behind your cupboard.

I don't know, it's just very, very weird and there's a ton of theories.

But to me the carbon monoxide theory does seem the most plausible.

And then the last thing we ever hear from the OP is the OP replying to a comment saying sure thing, I'll post an ordinary photo tomorrow 'cause I'm working the night shift tonight and that is the last we have ever heard from the OP.

And this was seven years ago.

So I don't think we should expect an update anytime soon.

But if the OP is somehow watching this, please e-mail me.

I'd love to hear the resolution of this case.

But to me, like I said, allegedly the carbon monoxide seems the most plausible.

The OP doesn't have a carbon monoxide detector.

It could be a small leak and the OP is just hallucinating or doing something out of their mind at night time or sleepwalking or doing this or that or the other thing.

But to me it doesn't seem like someone would be in the house and then just hiding a airplane neck pillow behind a coburb.

And then also I, I, I just don't know.

It just doesn't seem possible to me that some dude is in there doing that.

But at the same time, I don't know.

Possibly.

But then at the same time, the photos the camera captured don't show anything.

And so to me, this probably carbon monoxide, but what do you guys think?

Do you guys agree with me or do you think there's possibly some other theory?

I'm not considering?

A disturbing series of events.

To start off, A couple of months ago my buddies and I got a house together in hopes of living together since we've known each other for years now.

A few weeks into living at the house, one of the guys called us while we were at work one night to tell us there was a organ at our doorstep.

We all thought he was just messing with us until he Facetimed us and there on our doorstep was some type of organ.

We aren't doctors, but it looked like a liver or something.

We're all a little freaked out and just assumed that some kids were trying to mess with us.

Ever since then, we hadn't had anything happen.

Until last night.

We're all home in the basement watching the Mike Tyson fight drinking a few beers when we decided to head outside to the backyard and start a fire and we found another organ sitting on the floor outside the back door.

It looks like it was just put there but we didn't know for sure because we don't have any cameras or anything.

We are literally 4 grown ass guys and we are kind of freaking out about these organs showing up at our house without anything telling us why or how and I just want to know what to do.

I have a picture of it but I don't know how to post it because I'm new here but if anyone can tell me how I'll gladly share it.

And then there's a quick buzz in the comments section.

Some people start theorizing saying well maybe, maybe it's a cat that brought an organ onto your doorstep, or maybe it's a person, or maybe it's one of your roommates pranking you.

But no one has a solid explanation and sadly the OP doesn't really respond to any of them so we don't know.

Also, people do recommend getting cameras so he can see whatever is dropping this on this doorstep.

He doesn't have cameras so he doesn't know.

But then the OP gives us a concerning update.

Update #1 And he says, so I finally found out how to post an image here.

So here's a link to what we found.

There weren't any traces of animals or bite marks on the thing.

And then the OP posts a link and we can see very clearly a liver on his doorstep.

And sadly, I have to severely blur this for YouTube's sake, but yeah, very disturbing.

I mean, it's a very clear, clean liver.

I mean, it doesn't look like it was chewed by an animal or, you know, it would give have that look.

It looks just eerily clean, like it was surgically removed.

And there's no like drag marks.

It's not like an animal's dragging it.

And there's this weird, like white ooze underneath it.

And I'm sorry, I have to describe this so graphically, but I just want to give you guys a clear picture.

And it's just right on his doorstep.

I mean, it's, I can't imagine how scary that'd be to open my door and a organ is right there.

And then people start freaking out saying, well maybe it's a human, maybe it's an animal, maybe it's this, maybe it's that.

But no one really knows.

Someone does say if you think it is a human, call the cops.

Even if you don't think it is a human, it might be worth calling the cops and having them take a look and getting their opinions outside of contacting law enforcement.

I'd install cameras, talk to neighbors, and ensure my home is secure.

Good luck and let us know if you solve the problem or anything new happens.

And then the commenter also responds to the new picture the OP provided saying now that I've seen the picture, it doesn't look like a pig liver to me, but what do I know.

Measure the size of it and include that into the description.

But it doesn't look like it's more than 4 inches large based on shoe and leaf.

Hopefully we can get a vet and surgeon in here to provide had more clarity.

And sadly there was no vet or surgeon that came in and provided any clarity.

So we don't know.

And then a lot of people start theorizing that the roommates are playing a prank on the OP.

And very quickly it seemed that the OP dismissed this saying that they were all very surprised and it doesn't seem like it was a prank because it keeps happening randomly and they just don't know.

But then the OP gives us a second update.

In this update he says so a lot of you guys are saying that I should talk to the neighbors.

So I asked everyone on the street if they have ever had anything like this happen.

All of them said they never had anything like this happen to them.

I also called the original owners of the house to confirm they didn't have a cat, they only had dogs.

With that being said that it had happened once them but they had never had it happened twice.

I also went ahead and filed a report with the cops.

They came over and looked around the house and swept the woods nearby but ultimately said they couldn't find anything and that they suggest just getting cameras.

We bought cameras and are waiting for them to come in.

We really don't think an animal brought this lever to us.

There are no marks so it's getting creepy thinking that someone is trying to fuck with us.

The cameras are coming in and I'll keep everyone updated as much as I can on who is doing this or what we find.

And then there's really no more comments of notes after this update.

So let's get into update #3.

So earlier in the day, we tried to talk to the neighbors but some were home, which was explained in the second update.

I came home from work, my housemate let me know that one of the neighbors that wasn't home earlier was home now.

We decided to take a walk over just to get his input on the matter.

And he said some stuff that intrigued us to say the least.

He said he had something along the lines happened to him that he had also found organs in his fence off dog pen.

It disturbed him at the time and was glad to find out he wasn't the only one.

He said that he didn't install cameras at first because he thought it was a tasteless prank some kids tried to pull on him due to it being around Halloween, which is a major time of year to expect mischief from kids in my area.

However it happened one more time about 3 weeks ago.

He had a ring doorbell, nothing captured but installed cameras after and said nothing had happened since but he's been waiting to catch it.

Also he did contact police which they told him the same thing they told us.

I don't know how dead ass the claim is but he seemed like he wasn't exaggerating.

He was kind enough to send us a photo which he took when he brought the dog out.

It's hard to say who is doing this or why it's happening, but we have our neighbors number now so we'll keep in touch on anything that happens between US.

And then the OP shares the picture of what the neighbor sent to him.

And this one's even scarier.

I mean it's literally 2 intact organs which to me looks like a heart and a liver on the side of his house or side of his dog shit.

I mean like holy shit.

Like this is terrifying.

And I mean they look intact which is even scary.

So it's not like some animal ripped it out of another animal and brought it to the house.

Like these look big.

I don't know if they're human, I don't know if it's some other animal, but like downright so so scary.

And I have no clue what it is.

And everyone in the comments is kind of at a loss as well.

They're all saying I don't know what it is.

And sadly we have never got another update from the OP and this was five years ago so I doubt we will ever get another update.

But God that is so scary.

I mean I wonder if it is some sort of weird prankster.

I did notice after going to the O PS profile that he did post an R slash occult so maybe the OP thinks it's a cult of some sort in his area.

I don't know where he lives in the USI assume he's in the US but the post in the are Sasha cult.

Was seeking some insight if this has any link to cults someone recommended I come ask if you guys would know anything along these lines.

And then some people say maybe but not really.

I mean doubtful.

But yeah, this is a very scary post to me.

I thought it was just super, super disturbing because I mean, imagine like organs just start showing up at your house.

What do you guys think?

Do you think it's an animal?

Do you think it's some sort of weird pranksters?

I mean, that doesn't seem that likely to me.

I mean, that's some pretty demented pranksters.

Or do you think it's a serial killer leaving his trophies at someone else's house?

I mean, who knows?

Very scary.

And there's a lot of different avenues this could go down, but I'm kind of at a loss.

So what do you guys think?

Knocking at my door at night.

Throwaway account.

The past few weeks I'm woken up to knocking at my front door.

My bedroom is very close to it.

All that's between my bed and the entryway to the house is 1 wall.

My bedroom window can see onto the front porch, but at such an angle that I can't see the door itself, only the space directly in front of it.

My parents, whose bedroom is in the basement, don't hear the knocking.

Neither does my little brother, but he's at the other end of the house.

My sister is almost as close to the front door as I am, and while she doesn't hear the knocking, she's been complaining about not sleeping well lately.

More details about the knocking.

It tends to happen very late at night or early.

Technically, during the week,

I'm in bed at 10:00 or 10:30 or so.

I can be up for work at six.

Everyone else is in bed at the same time or shortly after.

On the weekends I'm up a few hours later, but everyone else's sleep schedules that stay the same.

When I go to bed early, the knocking seems to happen at around 12:00 or 1:00, but when I'm up late it's not till closer to three.

This makes me think that whoever is knocking is somehow trying to get my attention.

Maybe they even know that I'm near enough to the door to hear them better than the rest of the family.

Maybe they're trying to wake me up or interfere with my sleep so they wait till I'm asleep.

Just an idea.

The knocking is fairly quiet, another reason it might be targeted at me.

So I hear it but not anyone else.

It's loud enough to wake me up, but without filling the whole house.

It doesn't seem to follow any sort of pattern, just a typical 3 or 4 knocks like you'd use to normally a knock on a door.

I usually wake up mid knock, making me think that whoever is doing it has probably already been knocking for a few minutes before I even wake up.

But that's just a guess and I really have no way of knowing.

Once I'm awake, it continues every couple of minutes for 10 or 15 minutes before stopping suddenly, sometimes even mid knock.

I've tried looking at my windows to see who's out there, but whoever it is stays out of view from my window.

In no way am I going to the door to see who's there.

I can see however, that the screen door is being held open so they can knock on the wood door.

It could just be some prankster, but it's been happening for close to three weeks now.

That seems like a lot of time and effort, especially so late at night just to get no reaction.

Before you ask, I'm going to buy a night vision camera if it doesn't stop soon.

It's a lot of money but at this point it's worth it if it helps.

And yes I have told the police but they say there isn't a lot they can do.

They've sent patrol cars by a few times but they don't see anything those nights.

The knocking comes late but it still comes.

They say they'll continue to help however they can, but they can't dedicate a unit to watching my house since they don't have any sort of evidence of what's happening besides my testimony.

If anyone has any ideas, please share them, I'm getting desperate.

Whoever this is seems determined to torment me and I'm helpless to stop them.

I will take any and all advice, thank you.

And now let's get into some comments.

Someone says that's spooky as hell, I'm sorry you're dealing with that.

For the record, I have two Nest cameras.

They're a little pricey but very reliable and the quality is good.

Good luck.

And then the Opie replies saying that's probably what I'll be getting since there's no sign of anything changing.

I really don't want to spend the money, but it's a lot better than living with this, or even worse, whatever they might do next.

Someone else says if you can see the screen door being held open why don't you just wait until they're done to see who closes it.

And then the opie reply saying that's a really obvious idea.

Can't believe I didn't think of it.

I'm trying this tonight.

We'll post pictures if I can get any.

And then another comforter has a rather good theory saying how old is your sister?

I suspect she may have a nighttime visitor.

Especially seeing the knocking sometimes stops mid knock and she has been tired lately and that's a great connection.

I didn't think about that but the OP did say his sister has been tired lately and so maybe she hasn't been sleeping at night and inviting some boy over or whatever to do whatever at night.

That's actually a good theory.

And then they finish off the comments saying otherwise.

Go and get your parents when the knocking starts, or sit up and watch until the person leaves so you can see who it is.

This really should be an easy one to solve.

And I do agree with that commenter.

And then the OP replies saying she's about the right age, whatever that means.

But she's extremely conservative and not at all the type.

And if that were the case, the visitor would probably be knocking on her window instead of the door because it's an easy reach.

But she surprised me before, so I could be wrong and that could be what's going on.

I'll have to watch for any signs of that.

Someone else suggested just watching to see when they leave, so that's what I'm going to do tonight.

Hopefully I'll be able to get some pictures and before we move on to the O PS update, I just want to cover one more comment because I think this is another good theory.

The commenter says Yikes, this is the creepy as hell.

Definitely get someone to stay up with you, record the noise and try and get pictures or videos to then take to the police.

If it turns out that it actually is somebody doing this to you, can you think of anyone who would want to harass you?

How long has this been happening for?

It's strange for it to be a random person doing this for ages to get no reaction whatsoever.

Seems like it'd be more personal if it's persistent.

Would your parents help you pay for a camera ASAP?

You pay them back.

It's better to be safe than sorry.

And then the OP replies saying.

Now that I think of it, I broke up with my ex-girlfriend just a few days before it started.

She was slightly pathologically insane, but it was an online relationship.

She lives over 2000 miles from where I live, and she doesn't have the means to travel to where I am or to stay long term.

And I'm pretty sure she doesn't have my address or even my city, but still, there could be a possible connection there.

Hard to say.

I'll talk to my parents about buying a camera now.

I don't know if they can afford it right now either, but it's worth asking.

And so that's another good theory even though it's not likely considering she lives 2000 miles away.

But we have the ex-girlfriend theory of some crazy ex-girlfriend knocking on the opie's house or the sister up late at night with another person.

2 decent theories.

Or the third, it's some crazy guy that's consistently knocking on the Opie's house only to get the OP's attention.

Very interesting.

But let's move on to the OP's update titled Knocking Update in the post reads as follows.

So first the boring stuff.

I replaced the bulb on my front porch as some people suggested.

It's working fine now, so hopefully that will deter the person.

I ordered a wise camera but it won't be here until the weekend.

Me and my dad are also going to install a peephole in the door when we set up the camera.

So between those three things the front door will be much more secure soon.

Now the interesting stuff.

Last night me and my dad both stayed up.

He was in the living room which the front door opens into.

He had a clearview of the door and he kept the blinds drawn and lights off so that I would look like he wasn't there.

I was in my room catching up on some college work I've fallen behind on since this whole thing started.

If I'm going to stay up late, I might as well be productive.

All my lights were off and my blinds were closed so it should have looked the same as normal from the outside.

The night was quiet, no knocking, so at 12:30 I decided to go to sleep.

I went to tell my dad and he said he'd stay up another hour just to be sure, then he'd go to sleep as well.

At about 1:15, he got up to go to the bathroom.

When he came back, he sat back down on the couch with a clearview of the door.

As his eyes adjusted to the dark, he thought he could see something in front of the small window near the top of the door.

When he looked closer, he realized it was a fucking person's face.

He immediately grabbed his phone and called the police, staying away from the door.

After a few minutes of talking, the operator asked him to look at the window again from a distance and try to describe the person, but they were gone by then.

The police sent 2 squad cars over 1 to talk to my dad and the other one patrolled our street and the surrounding streets for anything suspicious.

They didn't find anything, but they took my dad's story and talked to me as well.

My dad woke me up as soon as he got off the phone with the police.

They're going to send patrols down our street at regular intervals throughout the night for tonight and probably the rest of the week too.

My dad didn't see enough detail for a suspect sketch, so all we have to go on is the person is tall enough to look through the window in the door.

It's about 6 feet above the concrete step in our front door, so the person is probably at least 6 foot 5 to get a clear look through it.

Part of me hopes they come back and we get a better look.

Part of me really hopes they don't.

On the bright side, this rules out the possibility of it being animals, how sounds or just my mind.

It's definitely real and the police are involved now, so I guess it's good to have a better idea of what's happening.

But still, it's scaring the shit out of me.

I'm generally pretty brave.

I've wrangled loose venomous snakes and didn't break a sweat, but that's a threat I understand and can predict.

I know what a scared animal will do.

I've got no idea what this prowler will do.

I know how to catch and call a snake.

I don't have the slightest idea of what this guy wants or what he'll do to get it.

That's what scares me, not knowing what's next.

I guess all I can do is go to sleep tonight and see what happens.

Wish me luck.

And now this is terrifying.

I mean now it's obviously not him imagining it, it's most likely not his ex-girlfriend considering this guy's 6 foot 5.

And it's also not likely that this is the O PS sister who's just hanging out with some guy late at night.

So let's get into some comments and see some other people's updated theory.

Someone says the fact that they came back multiple nights and they're not knocking loud enough to get the attention of the whole house seems to me like they're casing your home.

Trying to figure out when you guys are asleep and if you'd wake up to certain noises.

More than likely a just a simple crook looking for an easy break in.

Make sure you have all your valuables locked up just in case and if your parents don't own that, they at least have renter's insurance.

If the person saw your dad they hopefully they know that you guys know they're coming around and we'll stop.

And then someone replies saying normally I'd agree but there's something very off about this.

If it was just them trying to case the house they would have broken in by now.

But rather they clearly are watching the house mid evening on and waiting until everyone is asleep to go knock on the door.

And then the other guy replies saying I've had a dude try casing my house over the span of months.

Drug addict behavior rarely makes sense.

Decent theory but yeah I agree.

Why wouldn't the guy just break in at this point?

Even if it is a drug addict with a completely deranged mind that's not in the sound mind.

I feel like they would have broken in by now instead of just knocking on the door late at night over and over and over and over again.

But another commenter says that's honestly terrifying.

Do you know if the person realized your dad saw him?

I hope everything works out for you guys and you get to the bottom of this.

Please keep us updated if you can.

Good luck.

And then the OP replies saying that's what we assume happened.

Obviously no way to be certain.

I'll continue to update every time anything big happens, but not too much so I don't spam.

And then the OP gives us an update titled Another Quick Update, and the post reads as follows.

Just a short update to let everyone know I'm all right and to respond to common comments on the last update.

First, here's what happened last night.

I decided to sleep on the couch with a weapon handy baseball bat with a sock as was commonly suggested because I felt that my dad deserved a break after last night.

It was hard to sleep but the window was covered so I felt safe enough to eventually doze off.

At one point I woke up and thought I heard footsteps and or voices outside the door, but I'm pretty sure it was just my anxiety and half a sleep state.

Plain tricks on me.

No knocking or disturbances all night, which is a huge relief.

As for the camera, it's been delayed due to harsh winter weather in my area, so I decided to just cancel the order and found one at a store nearby.

I couldn't figure out how to set it up, but a friend of mine who's worked on the security systems before it's going to come take a look later tonight.

It should be working fine before I go to bed.

A lot of people suggested asking friends or neighbors to help us catch this guy.

That's a great idea.

I talk to my neighbors, most of them don't have surveillance cameras, but those who do, we'll see if they can find anything.

One of my friends, the tech guy who's helping me with the camera, is going to set up a Cam for the night in his car across the street and down aways so it's not obvious he's watching her house.

His girlfriend will be there too, so hopefully 2 sets of eyes catches something.

Last, I want to quickly address some specific comments.

I'm not telling anyone to attack them, I'm not trying to get people riled up.

I just think these people make good points and I want to talk about it.

Here's the first in the comment reads as follows, saying you think with everyone having a camera on their phone, somebody would have recorded something by now.

How convenient they haven't.

And that the one camera is not here till the weekend will never be mentioned again.

Nah, I'm sure this isn't fiction at all guys.

And then the OP reply saying it's true.

It does look weird that I don't have any photos, but remember that this happens late at night past midnight and this person has shown they're smart enough to avoid detection.

I'll have a camera set up tonight so if they come back again I'll get some evidence.

And of course, you guys will be the first to see after the police.

The next comment is actually a short chain.

It's not that long, but it's too long to paste in so I'll just summarize.

If anyone wants to read the original chain, it's on the Last Post.

But please don't treat this person like shit.

Basically they say that everyone is taking this too seriously for how little evidence I provided, and that's a completely valid point.

I can't prove any of this right now, so why should you believe me?

I probably wouldn't, honestly, right now the only evidence I have is what I've heard and seen and what my dad saw, neither of which I can conclusively prove.

I'm hoping to get some real evidence tonight.

Until then, I suppose you're completely in the right to be skeptical, that's all.

Since there was no knocking last night, I'm really hoping there won't be any tonight either.

Maybe being spotted scared the guy away, who knows.

I'll update tomorrow or the next day depending on what happens.

Thank you all so much for your support.

I've read some of the comments to my family and we are also grateful for your help.

It really means a lot to us.

And then everyone in the comments is kind of saying OK cool any updates that night?

And sadly the OP gives US0 solid updates from then on 0 even though he said he would.

So I don't know what happened to the OP.

So did the guy or the knocking guy just stop showing up to the house?

Possibly.

And then another theory, I think, which has actually happened in a past few Reddit threads where the police are like, hey, stop posting this online because this is an ongoing investigation.

So that's another theory because I have seen that a few times.

And a lot of the times for an ongoing investigation, they don't want the person just posting all the evidence online and that sort of stuff.

So that's a solid theory, but we just have not gotten any sort of update ever since then.

Which I'm sad about because what the hell is happening?

I mean it's terrifying that it was happening for three weeks.

Whoever this tall guy was knocking on the O PS door trying to wake up the OP and nobody else.

And who was this person?

Was it just a deranged maniac?

Possibly.

Was it someone else wanting something more sinister or wanting someone to open the door?

Who knows.

I mean, I really don't know, but this was a very scary and chilling Reddit thread.

I mean this was very very weird and I'm very very sad that we never got an update, but what do you guys think?

My negligence cost my partner her life and I'm about to lose everything.

I-35, male.

Have been married to Lisa, 28, female for three years, Together for seven years.

A year ago I fell deeply in love with Amy, who's 24, and have been planning to end my marriage for her.

I know it's terrible and not what my wife deserves, but we were the real thing.

Two weeks ago she had an allergic reaction when we were getting food after work, but she used her EpiPen and seemed mostly OK afterwards.

She usually gets checked at the hospital after reaction, but I asked her if I could take her home and she could get her friend to drive her there because my wife was expecting me back.

All I know is that she had a secondary reaction that evening and died.

I didn't even find out about it until the following Monday through a work e-mail.

It has been eating me up ever since and I will never forgive myself for not sacrificing an hour of my time to possibly save her.

I sent some childish messages to Amy when I didn't hear from her over the weekend because I thought she was angry I didn't take her to the hospital.

I'm thankful she never saw them and ashamed that I assume the worst.

Our relationship was great and the highs far outweigh the lows, but I've always hated being ignored and I lose my cool when it happens.

It is not a regular occurrence and I would have more than made it up to her.

Yesterday at work, HR and Legal were in the CE OS office all day and my manager ended up canceling our project meeting because he was with them all afternoon.

I was on edge, but an affair isn't exactly a corporate crisis and I thought something would have already happened if anyone knew.

I'm now 99% certain it was about me.

A few hours ago I received a message from Amy's phone which said this is Amy's brother, Tom, I want you to know it was me.

I tried to call but it went straight to voicemail and none of my messages have been delivered.

I tried to call my manager more times than I should have and he sent a message saying please don't contact me until Monday morning.

I can't discuss anything with you right now, so it looks like my universe is going to collapse.

I'm going to be fired and my wife will definitely find out why.

All I can do is hope that Amy's brother only showed them the messages from that weekend and they were bad enough.

I have no family except my wife and daughter and nowhere to go.

All my friends are either people I've met through my wife or my colleagues on Monday.

Everything I've spent over a decade working towards disappears.

I can't stop it.

I can't talk to anyone about it, so here I am.

I know cheaters are the devil so I'm not expecting sympathy, but this is making my chest hurt and I need to get it out there.

And now let's get into some relevant comments.

Someone says you need to tell your wife before someone else does.

You already betrayed her, don't make it even worse.

And the OPIE replies saying I won't know 100% until Monday morning exactly how much my work knows.

And there is a sliding scale of how bad this will get depending on how much he has given them.

If it's everything, my wife will be crushed.

If it's only the messages from the weekend she died, it can be much gentler.

I don't want to hurt my wife more than absolutely necessary.

And then someone else says wow you are something else.

And the OP reply saying one thing I will not apologize for is trying to minimize the damage to my wife.

She doesn't deserve any of this.

She's been wonderful and our daughter is my entire world.

I know that my reputation is going to be ruined but I don't need her or anyone else to know the bad details.

My message history with Amy undermines the last year of her marriage in fundamental ways and it would absolutely end her.

Someone else says you deserve everything that happens from this point out.

To be this heartless to a woman you made vows to and share a child with is so disgusting.

And the opie replies saying all I can say is that I didn't get to decide who I fell in love with, I would never hurt my wife deliberately, and I will do anything I can to minimize that hurt now.

That is inevitable.

And then another commenter says your wife is going to be shattered no matter what you do.

I get the sense you have no intention of being honest with her, and I'd caution you against that.

She deserves your complete honesty now despite the fact that you didn't give it to her at any other point.

Also, I wouldn't bet on Tom hiding anything to protect your reputation.

In the OP replies saying this is my problem.

If he knew what to look for he could end almost every relationship I have.

I've lied to everybody to protect my relationship with Amy and there's basically a daily timeline of the whole thing reflected in my messages.

People I work with are friends with my wife and I can't have her knowing everything because it would break her and if she was vindictive I could truly be left with no one.

Another commenter says this has nothing to do with minimizing the damage to your wife, but to yourself.

Don't disguise it as anything else.

And I do agree.

And then the OP says I'll be lying if I said that wasn't part of it.

I've been scrolling through my messages with Amy and it just gets worse and worse.

I missed family events to be with Amy and I'm concerned that my wife may actually become violent if she finds out about one of them.

Another commenter said just for the heck of it, what was the family event?

And then the opiate reply saying her sister suffered a still birth and I couldn't make it to the service because I'd committed to attending an event with Amy months in advance.

I know it's bad and before we move on to more comments I just have to say Jesus Christ this is a horrible situation all around.

I mean I feel so so badly for the O PS wife and his daughter who have been lied to for who knows how long months, years even maybe.

And the OP missed a funeral to go hang out with this lover or and to have an affair with like God that is just so heartbreaking on every level.

But let's move on to more comments.

Someone says they probably know everything or enough.

They could be looking at your work correspondence, emails, instant messages.

Plus she likely had no reason to delete anything from her phone and hide previous messages and calls like you may have.

And then the OP reply saying that would be the worst case scenario.

I felt very anxious throughout the affair because I'm not a nationally dishonest person and I've taken that out on Amy by messages a few times.

I also secured her a promotion and our messages make it clear that it was solely because of our relationship and just Jesus.

This just gets keeps getting worse and worse.

I made some comments about the promotion on the weekend she died and if anyone looks back they're going to pull a thread that could make me look abusive without proper context.

That is a major concern, especially with my daughter involved.

I've also told some large and hurtful lies which would be exposed because the messages made it clear where it actually was at certain times.

This is what would hurt my wife the most.

Just Oh my God this is just getting worse and worse.

Someone else says.

Did she report to you or did you just use your position to secure a promotion for her purely based on your relationship and not her merit?

And then the Oprah replies saying her manager is my director Port.

I joked a few times in intimate conversations how she still owed me for the promotion and when she had initially asked about it I sent her a message with a pretty comprehensive list of reasons I didn't think she was ready.

She thought that was so I asked someone at my level to put a word in over the weekend.

I basically said that she was under qualified for the role and wouldn't be able to survive doing it anywhere else.

I'm horrified but I thought she was being petty and playing games so I responded in kind.

And then the commenter also says oh so you may actually be catching charges as well.

The OP then says I don't think I'm in legal trouble but morally I definitely am.

Someone else in the department had applied for the role and arguably they were more qualified for it, although neither of them were really.

I ensured that they received a good pay rise afterwards and a key role in a very desirable project and there's evidence of me advocating for that.

They will likely be moving into Amy's role now and we've always had a good relationship, but I understand that they're going to be extremely mad and I will be apologizing as soon as possible and I just have to take whatever abuse they want to throw at me.

I know I deserve it.

Someone else says someone that wants to rain Hellfire on your world is in the position of text that can be argued to prove a situation of coercion in the workplace.

I would not Rest easy OP.

Your boss is already working out how to protect themselves and the company y'all work for.

Enjoy those figurative bus wheels.

Bro still thinks he can somehow keep his job and be in a position to do anything.

And I do agree with the Commodore like this looks horrible for the OP in every possible way.

He looks like it's going to lose his job, lose his wife, lose his daughter, everything.

I mean, it does not look like he's going to get out of this.

I mean rightfully so.

And the OP replies saying I will not be keeping my job if any of this comes out.

I've spent company money on my relationship with Amy and there's a year's worth of evidence.

Jesus.

I've spoken at length about my incriminating things and I've told her that her job was at risk a few times when we argued.

Oh my God, it just keeps getting worse.

I suggest that I will blacklist her across our industry, which is what I'm particularly worried about.

And once because I believed she had told someone we work with about us, the text chain shows us resolving the issue and we apologizing.

I am under no illusions as to how serious this situation is.

Someone else says minimize the damage to your wife, The one you said you were going to leave.

Are you still going to leave?

I'm desperate to know.

Somehow I doubt it.

The OP then replies saying people can have amicable divorces and that's what I hoped to achieve.

Amy is the only woman on earth I would have left my wife for.

It's selfish and awful but my wife is 99% perfect and Amy is 100%.

I understand how terrible it is but I don't know what leave my wife would have solved and the knowledge of this relationship never came out.

I couldn't have ripped my family apart for nothing and I I can't like this is crazy.

I can't even comprehend everything this OP is saying and like I feel so horrible for the wife.

Like imagine she reads these threads and reads what the OP is saying about his wife.

Like this is just disturbing as all hell.

Someone else says.

Curious, what was the 1% Amy had over your wife?

Was it her ruthlessness in pursuing a married man with a young child?

Was it her complete lack of moral compass?

Was it the fact that your garbage soul recognized her horacity as equally trashy?

And the Opie replies saying they're both incredible women but they couldn't be more different.

When my wife walks into a room, it's like a hurricane strike.

Everybody sits up straight.

She's tall and assertive and extremely intelligent.

She's funny and quick and she dominates in a male dominated industry where they all love her.

She's very straightforward and she can be far too blunt.

Amy was softer.

She didn't have to be the smartest or the strongest or the most well read person in the room.

She saw her job as a job and she wanted to raise a family somewhere cozy.

We're going to grow tomatoes in the back garden and keep chickens for eggs and as pets.

My wife would have designed an automated hydroponic system and signed us up for a subscription for a local egg coupe.

They're just different people who touch different parts of my heart and my mind in my initial thoughts after reading that.

Like this is all alleged.

This is just me theorizing, but like it seems like the OP likes being able to control Amy.

Does that make sense?

Like he's saying his current wife is a lot more assertive.

She's straightforward, she can handle her own, so to say.

But then Amy just kind of does what he says, which is very disturbing as well.

Like, do you guys agree with me on that?

But that's kind of all legend.

That's just me theorizing.

That's not true.

That's just me, what I'm thinking, but that seems to be the case there.

He's like, well, Amy didn't have to be the smartest or the strongest and I can kind of move around, which is also something that is proven in the earlier text threads with him saying, oh, you have to do this to keep your job.

So he's kind of just wanted to control Amy.

That's pretty messed up.

Someone else says, is that why you cheated on your wife?

School emoji three times?

You couldn't handle your wife's intelligence and confidence.

OK, well I'm not the only one who thinks that.

And then the OP says they were some of my favorite things about her.

I've always admired her strength and determination.

I feel like I'm really two different people and they both want two different things.

Sometimes I need a partner who is soft and sweet and who needs to me to take the lead, and other times I need someone to come in and take control and organize everything and be the loudest voice in the room.

The decider was ultimately that I loved Amy Moore.

I knew it in my core.

Someone else says Tom has real Elena Tyrell energy.

True kingshed.

Realistically I can't blame him.

His sister is dead because cheating cheater face over here had other things to do.

He can't have them rested but he can otherwise ruin his life.

OP, the absolute worst thing here isn't losing your wife, family, job or support system.

It's living with your guilt.

Best of luck.

And then the opie replied saying I don't expect this to change your opinion but she kept reassuring me that everything she was feeling was normal for her attacks and that there was nothing to worry about.

We had a long standing agreement when it came to my home life.

I had committed to leaving by the end of this year, but the cost of that was that I had to be extremely careful when it came to us spending time together so I could generally extract myself from my marriage.

My work schedule is extremely regular and if I'm not home when expected, it's a conversation.

By the time she felt better after she used her EpiPen, I was cutting it close already.

The hospital is 1/2 hour drive out of my way, so at the time it felt like at least an hour and probably a few more if I had to check in or stay with her.

Obviously that all feels so stupid now that she's gone.

I'd have shouted about us from the rooftops and told my wife then and there if it could get her back.

The guilt is indeed the worst bit.

Another commenter says the fact is that if he genuinely cared about your wife, you would have been honest with her from the beginning.

You keep talking about sparing your wife's feelings and I'm genuinely confused why Because I'd imagine finding out that your husband is leaving you and destroying your family because he's in love with someone else is one of the most painful things that can happen.

No matter how gentle you are about it, it doesn't change the facts of the matter.

I'm getting the impression he was never going to leave his wife and then the opie reply saying I didn't know the finer details.

But I made a commitment to leave by the end of this year and I intended to keep to it.

My intention was to pull away from my wife gradually and eventually mutually decide to separate.

Obviously that's not happening now, but I want to minimize the harm to her as much as possible.

Someone else says just admit your wife aged out of your preferred bracket so you went shopping for a younger model.

The OP then replies saying my wife is more beautiful now than she was the day I met her.

She is ferocious and vibrant and she's going to find a man who's charismatic and social and who earns a ridiculous amount of money.

It's kind of a weird thing to say.

And she's going to make him deliriously happy and occasionally wonder what she ever saw in a sad little man like me.

My daughter will probably prefer him.

The age gap is a coincidence.

Amy and I were simply soul mates.

This is getting weirder and weirder as we keep going down the comments.

I know this is a lot of comments, but these comments perfectly illustrate his thinking and how things are playing out.

Another commenter says.

What I don't understand is why you didn't call your wife and say a colleague needed running to the hospital and you'd be straight home after.

This feels like it never needed to have got to this point.

You were so paranoid and careful.

You forgot how normal people respond to things like this.

And the OPI replied saying you're right.

There are a million things I could have said.

We had a pretty strict agreement that my time with her would never infringe on my time with my family and all I can say is that my head went straight to that instead of where it should be.

I had no idea a secondary reaction could happen.

If it did, this would have never happened.

I would never knowingly risk her life.

Someone else says you've literally already said you missed a funeral for a baby to go to an event with your mistress.

Don't play like you've never sacrificed your family time before SMH.

The OP then replies saying ironically that agreement was the reason I went with Amy.

She had asked for one full day and night together each month and my requirement was that it was booked well in advance.

I canceled the 1st 2 and this one was make or break as we are fighting over something else.

At the time there was a lot of context but I stand by my decision.

Wow.

We just wow.

He doesn't even say he regrets it.

I stand by my decision to miss a funeral for a baby.

That is very telling of who this guy is, he continues saying.

Obviously my wife wouldn't understand that perspective and I didn't expect her to, which is why I don't want all of this to be dragged out in the open.

Wow.

And then someone else says what were the messages?

The OP then replies saying there are too many to even think about.

We've had a few very nasty arguments.

I've threatened her job, accused her of sleeping with colleagues, spoken badly about people we work with, spoken badly about my wife and family, talked at length about how we can disguise our dates as company expenses, everything more.

I've basically admitted to sabotaging someone else's promotion and acknowledged she wasn't qualified for the role I secured for her.

And I've held it against her a few times.

Although the messages also show us resolving much of this and I believe there's growth over the year, not that anyone will be looking for that.

Basically, it's extremely bad.

My wife is friends with the people who will be investigating this if my work actually has access.

And then the final comment on this post is if you don't get fired for the affair, you'll probably get fired for misappropriating company expenses, which you'll then have to explain why.

In the end results will be the same.

So here's hoping.

And the Opie reply saying there is a strong culture of fudging expenses in the business and I have plenty of evidence of that.

I know exactly how much I've spent because it was all under the same account name, which I can also prove.

So I believe that offering to pay the money back will be sufficient.

Obviously if I no longer have a job that will be difficult, but all I can do is offer.

I don't think that is going to be a legal issue.

But yes, I will definitely be fired if they know what I think they know.

Jeez man.

And then the OP gives us an update post Update.

My negligent cost, my partner her life and I'm about to lose.

Everything in the post reads as follows.

I've been consistently harassed for an update since posting, so please take it glow because you're such wonderful people in comparison.

Then stop following me around Reddit.

I'm suffering in the wake of my infidelity and unprofessional behavior, as I knew I would.

I understand that it is an appropriate outcome and I'm taking a full accountability.

I was suspended from work on Monday and I'll probably be fired sooner than I thought.

I'd hoped to be able to save money as HR built their case, but it looks like Amy's brother basically performed the entire investigation for them.

After an excruciating 3 hour run through of everything they had.

I spoke to the founder and he recommended the solicitor I am now using.

The issue is that the company has to come down hard to protect themselves because even though Amy's family doesn't have much chance of a claim, any suggestion of a cover up would cause damage.

Regardless, the founder still thinks my offer to pay them back will keep it out of court and some more information has come to light so it's not certain I won't be prosecuted, but I'm quietly hopeful.

I can't afford to keep the solicitor if this goes on further, especially with a divorce on the horizon and things are not good with my wife.

And I'm still committed to making this as easy as possible for her.

But I had to draw a line when it came to my daughter.

When I got home from being unceremoniously escorted out of my office, she already had a bag packed for me.

She wouldn't let me wait at the house until my daughter was back.

She wouldn't let me check I had everything I needed.

She wouldn't let me take the car, and she didn't care that I had nowhere to go.

I spent two nights in a hotel, then went back when she refused to let me see my little girl.

She tried to stop me, but we own the house jointly and it was my only option.

My wife has family she could stay with, but she won't leave our daughter here and she's absolutely not taking her.

So we're at a stalemate right now.

I'm keeping out of her way as best I can, which I can appreciate is the least I can do.

The Amy situation is quite difficult to talk about and a lot hasn't sunk in yet.

It turns out that she didn't love me as much as I loved her, if at all.

Her brother sent me images of her talking to her friends about me and it's hard to believe they came from the person I loved, but they are real.

Sorry to those who are heavily invested in me being a predatory abuser, but she and her friends had a good laugh about her manipulating me for money and a promotion.

The role came with a big pay raise, and it looks like her plan was to treat it as free cash then go to work with one of her friends when it fell through.

She knew I'd come under scrutiny whenever she messed up and assumed I'd keep stepping in to save her.

She was right, obviously.

I am completely humiliated.

I was planning to give up everything to build a life with her and she was treating me like a joke the whole time.

Wow, what a change of events.

My feelings are complicated so please don't feel entitled to any expansion on this.

But I no longer feel guilt over her death.

Wow that's crazy.

That's just fucking crazy to say.

But I no longer feel guilt over her death.

Like I don't even have words.

This guy is just crazy.

This is the craziest red of thread I've ever read this.

Like he doesn't feel guilty for his death even though he was technically responsible for not bringing her to the hospital.

It's like dude even though she didn't love you, you can still feel guilty for not saving her life.

It's like Oh my God this is crazy, let's continue.

Retta acted like I kept her hostage while she begged for help.

What actually happened was that I asked if she could ask her friend to take her to the hospital because I had to go home.

She said that was fine because she needed to get some clothes back from her anyway and I dropped her off as normal.

Ultimately, she was an adult who had a better understanding of her medical needs than I did, and I still don't know what happened between us saying goodbye in her death, but whatever it was, it had nothing to do with me.

I'm sorry for a family's loss, but I bear no responsibility for her passing.

After Amy's messages to her friends were passed around, a few people quietly reached out with words of support.

I assumed everyone would have write me off like Reddit did as an abuser.

Now it's clear that Amy was using me.

They see me as a fool who had then lost it all.

It's beyond humiliating, but I have learned I'd rather be pitied than despised and improves my legal position with work.

There's still mercies, but I'll take what I can get.

I remain filled with regret and I will have learned many lessons by the time I get through this.

I may have been deceived, but I am a grown man who made my choices and I take full responsibility for them.

And now let's get into some comments.

Someone says I think it was clear to most of us that you are being used.

You certainly are not the first guy who gave up a wonderful life for the ego boost from a young ambitious woman.

Your poor wife and daughter still putting your needs above theirs.

The OP then says my daughter is my absolute priority and will continue to be.

I will do anything to make this as healthy and painless as possible for her.

My wife tried to weaponize her and whilst I'm willing to give her a lot of latitude in the situation, there have to be boundaries.

Another commenter makes a comment quoting the OP when the OP said I was planning to give up everything they built to life with her and she was treating me like a joke the whole time.

And the commenter replies to that quote saying dude read what you wrote.

You're willing to give up everything to be with Amy.

Everything including your daughter.

Don't try to play the role of a good father.

You lost that that when he cheated on her mother.

DOP then replied saying I would have and I will.

I will have 5050 custody of my daughter.

That is the default in the UK and it is completely appropriate because I've always been a 5050 parent.

And then they comment to reply saying even when you were lying and sneaking off with your 10 year junior affair partner.

Is that when you were a 5050 partnering?

What a joke.

OP healed so quickly.

He was on the adultery sub three days ago.

Hope all of this is fake because no one can be this self-centered.

And then the OP says did you even read the post and then the comments or reply saying why are you so obsessed with what Amy told her friends about you?

I thought your priority was your daughter.

Stop wasting time trying to understand Amy's intentions just cause your fragile ego has been torched.

And then the opie replies saying I can focus on the future whilst having questions about things that have already happened.

I can't imagine what a black and white world you must live in.

The woman I was planning a life with died and I found out she betrayed me throughout the entire relationship.

How could anyone immediately accept that and move on with no thoughts or questions?

And then someone quotes the OP again when the OP said I no longer feel guilt over her death.

And then the commenter replies to that saying sheesh the woman you plan to spend your life with.

Good grief.

Completely agree with the commenter there.

Then the OP says I can assure you I haven't healed one bit from any of this.

My life is in shambles.

The fact that she has died is not going to rob me of my right to be angry with her.

I ruined my life.

But she was right there with her hands on the wheel.

She talked to me about getting married and having more children and what her house would look like, and in the same day she called me names and plotted with her friends about having me get her a credit card.

I'd hold her my hopes and fears and she mocked me relentlessly for them.

I thought she was my soul mate and she exploited me in every way you can imagine.

How the fuck am I supposed to feel?

And then someone says affairs can cause emotional trauma on children?

How selfish to subject your daughter to trauma just to get your D wet.

Your wife is not weaponizing your daughter.

She's protecting her against you.

You're not the victim here, don't act like one.

Your wife and daughter are the victims.

And then the OP replies to that saying she's five years old.

If she notices anything is wrong then we have both failed as a parent.

Children are adaptable and they can easily be kept away from situations that should exclusively be dealt with by adults.

And before I read the rest of his comment, that's just not true.

How is a 5 year old?

I mean yes, that is a little kid, but even a 5 year old's like hey, why isn't daddy and mommy hanging out anymore?

Why is dad not here?

Why is mom not together?

Like do you think the kids just going to be like completely oblivious?

They might be for a little bit, but then soon enough they're going to be like hey, why haven't we eaten a family dinner in a while?

Why hasn't dad and mom been hanging out watching a movie with me?

Why haven't they this and that?

Like that is completely delusional and just false.

Kids are very observant.

Like literally when a kid is that young that is the most observant they ever are and they're learning the world around them and you just think they're not going to notice that their parents aren't living in the same household anymore.

That is just completely crazy to say.

But then the OP finishes that by saying my relationship with my daughter does not have to suffer because of the breakdown of my marriage.

My wife does not get to protect my daughter from me when I have caused her no harm.

We are completely equal parents under the law, regardless of whether fathers have rights on Reddit.

I honestly can't believe that a father not walking away from this child is controversial.

Regardless of what you think of me as a person, it is not in my 5 year old daughter's interest to have one of the top three people in her world disappear suddenly.

And then another commenter says quoting the OP says the founder still thinks my offer to pay them back will keep it out of court.

And then the commenter says so did you steal money from your company on top of abusing your authority at work?

And then the OPP replies saying in my expense account largely funded my relationship with Amy.

It wasn't unusual in the company we worked at.

But now there's a potential scandal.

They're suddenly shocked and appalled by my actions.

What do you mean they're suddenly shocked?

Like, that is a crazy thing for a person to be doing, spending company money on private dates that aren't company expenses.

Like, of course they're going to be shocked.

Another commenter says, good for them.

How much are you talking here?

Hundreds, thousands, and then the OP says a few thousand.

Uncomfortable given that I don't currently know exactly when my income is going to terminate, but I'll get it back to them.

And then a commenter leaves a lengthy comment saying I had the same question.

So you believe they will be digging through your expenses and asking you to repay any expense related to your relationship with Amy?

FWIW, I'm not going to behead you.

Obviously what you did to your family was brutal to read and as a woman, I feel for your wife.

I'm also old enough to know that life is messy and complicated and the heart can lead you to make bad decisions.

I'm assuming your life over this past year has involved tunnel vision and all you saw and all you could see was the happy life you have once the dust had settled.

Amy isn't without fault as she not only knew you were married with a child, but unlike you, not led by her heart but her selfish desire to get what you hadn't earned, promotion or money.

I think that after everything that's happened, you should let your wife take your daughter with an understanding that you'll have visitation.

Your wife's entire world blew up with one phone call and she deserves the space away from you without leaving her daughter behind.

You owe her that much and you've acted in your own self-interest long enough.

Give the woman some peace and very good comment by that commenter.

I do agree.

And then the OP reply saying thank you for this.

I was willing to leave my home as long as visitation was assured.

Unfortunately my wife is taking things hard enough to want to keep me from my daughter and it's the one line I just can't see crossed now.

There's clearly no trust on either side so I can't leave my home for the foreseeable.

A hotel was going to be unsustainable anyway.

It would rapidly eat at my savings.

I don't blame my wife for being angry and petty and wanting to make me as uncomfortable as possible.

In terms of my expenses, I disguised them all under the same client so they're very easy to identify.

It was primarily to hide the evidence of my affair with my wife.

It didn't even feel like stealing, so I didn't go to great lengths to hide it.

We use the expense, all kinds of things.

The culture around it was terrible.

I realize that's no excuse.

I haven't been asked to pay anything back, I offered to as soon as this all came to light.

The company may be prosecuting me, but I've engaged with a solicitor which greatly increased my chances of keeping this out of the courts.

It's all still very early days, So what happens next is up in the air.

Thank you again for sharing your very sensible thoughts.

And then someone else says, dude, get out of your wife's house, stay with a friend, find a studio apartment.

But don't do her like this, she doesn't deserve it.

You can't scream about visitation being kept from you when you're not even making an effort to move out.

You're very clearly doing this to keep your wife under your thumb and it sucks.

It really, really sucks.

And then the Opie replies to this saying it's not her house, it's ours and I want her to keep it.

But right now it just can't happen that cleanly.

I've behaved horribly but that doesn't magic me up to a place to live whilst we figure this out.

My income is clearly about to stop so I can't dip into savings that may be needed to keep us on top of our mortgage.

Real people have complicated lives and just go out.

Doesn't cut it.

I was prepared to leave in the immediate aftermath and find a way to make it work out of respect for my wife, but I quite simply will not be kept from my child and I make no apology for that.

Wow.

I don't want her under my thumb and never did.

She's going to town on me and quite rightly she sees me as a pathetic idiot who is taken in by a young woman trying her luck.

And she reads the things Amy said about me aloud everyday.

She's right.

The things she says about Amy are almost cathartic, the things she says about me less so.

She's hurt and angry and trapped and it's all my fault.

I hate what I've done to her more than anything else about this situation.

Another commenter says.

Honest question, how stupid are you?

You funded your liaisons with your mistress almost entirely with company funds.

You put all of your defrauding and writing in one of the most difficult to fully delete forms of a communication that there is.

I mean, you didn't quite jump onto your boss's desk and yell I'm committing a crime, but yeah, you might as well have.

And then the Opie replies saying, all I can say is that side of it doesn't feel serious until it did.

I plan to leave my wife for Amy.

So our messages were never a concern in the company culture around expenses was to milk them for all they were worth.

It's no excuse, but none of it seems like it would collapse in some madhouse of cards scenario.

And God, I mean, like, I just, it's so he's so obviously so dishonest.

I mean, it's like milk the company for all they're worth and he expects to keep his job.

It's like, of course your company's going to fire you if that's the way you're treating your company's funds.

Of course I'm not going to want to keep you around if you're acting like that, let alone all the other things that he's done.

I mean this is just a mind blowing thread.

Another commenter says you gave your wife two days.

Two days to absorb and try to understand everything before you demanded your parental rights.

To understand that not only that you cheated, but that the affair partner is now dead.

You might be responsible.

You embezzled company funds, you could be sued by not only your employer but the affair partners family, and you could go to jail.

To understand that she's not only lost her husband, but her life as she knows it.

That she might also be financially ruined by your actions.

That the health and welfare of your daughter will be impacted by your actions.

That any dreams of the future of your family are all gone.

You said they wanted to minimize the impact on your wife, but the moment you didn't get what you wanted, you decided she was the bad guy.

That's actually a great point.

I completely forgot about him saying I want to minimize the damage and then he goes and does this.

That's fucking crazy.

The Commodore continues saying you decided that your wants again were more important than anything else.

How could any parents who cares one iota about their child think that leaving them in your custody would be safe because you said so?

The whole world knows the value of your word.

You are a stranger to your wife.

What woman would leave their child with a stranger who is a liar, adulterer, embezzler, verbally and financially abusive to their affair partner, and potentially responsible for the affair partner's death?

It doesn't matter what you say.

The situation is different as there is no value in what you say now.

Your actions will impact your daughter even even at her young age.

Something this big and horrendous will not remain a secret and will follow her throughout her life.

You've lost your daughter simply because of the stigma of having an awful parent who could do all these things.

People are not kind.

Even though a child is innocent.

You should actually do something right by your family and leave you being there is not good for anyone, especially your daughter.

And then the opie replies this honest comment saying if you think I'm giving up my daughter because my wife's feelings are hurt you must be crazy.

That's not how real life works.

Oh my God the nerve on this guy.

Like Gee Oh my God.

I just feel so bad for the O PS wife.

So so bad.

I can't imagine having to deal with someone like this, he continued, saying.

I made it clear that I would keep communication purely around my daughter and I could pick her up and drop her off without my wife even having to see me.

There are consequences to my actions and there are consequences to hers.

I am prepared to give up a lot during the split, but access to my daughter isn't on the table.

Hold up, he said that there are consequences to my actions and there are consequences to hers.

What are her actually?

She's done nothing.

She's completely innocent in this entire situation.

Like I'm genuinely getting worked up reading this like this is fucking wild.

And then a commenter even says that and asked that same question saying what actions did she commit that deserve consequences?

OK at least we'll get an answer.

The Opie reply saying I left my home voluntarily because it was the right thing to do.

My only stipulation was access to my daughter.

My wife denied that, so I went back.

I had one hard line and she crossed it immediately.

I understand what I've done and I acted accordingly by leaving the house I owned jointly, not insisting on taking the car I own outright, and committing to remaining invisibles to my wife until she is ready to either talk or proceed directly with the divorce.

I was completely willing to do all of that because I am in the wrong here and there's no question of that.

The only thing I can't tolerate is being kept from my daughter because she doesn't deserve to have her father ripped from her life.

By trying to keep me from her.

My wife destroyed a lot of goodwill that objectively benefited her.

Now we go forward on that basis.

Wow, this is just insane.

And to be honest, that is the last update the OP ever gave us.

No more comments, no more posts, no more anything.

But it looks like he's going to lose his job, get divorced with his wife, and possibly lose his daughter.

So this guy lost everything very fast.

Well to be honest, in my opinion deservedly so.

But I'm just at a loss of words for this.

This is literally one of the craziest threads I have ever read.

He turned from a guy saying I'll take responsibility to taking zero responsibility and even saying he didn't feel guilty about her death even though he was arguably the reason for her death.

Not taking her to the hospital.

Just a wild wild write a threat and just truly disturbing.

Creepy stranger won't leave me alone.

So recently I just bought a house and everything seemed fine at first all until one Tuesday.

I was backing up from my garage when I saw a guy lean against a Toyota Camry staring at my car down.

I pulled my car out and roll down my window to ask him if he needs anything and he just says no Sir have a good day.

I then asked him politely if he could leave and he didn't respond.

He just stared at me for a good 30 seconds.

I started to get out of my car and confront him but as soon as he saw me go for the door he got in his car and drove off.

I was so rattled I called in sick to work and called the police.

They said I was probably being scouted for a burglary which made sense.

I had my brother-in-law come down and stay with my wife to help comfort her and I went to bought a ring camera set.

After we settled down everything seemed to go back to normal until Sunday.

I was watching the Chiefs Browns game when the same man peeked through my front window and stared at me and started laughing and holy shit that is terrifying dude Oh my God.

I quickly went to grab my gun but when I turned around he was gone.

I called the police and they took the ring footage to try and track him down.

Me and my wife decided to stay with my family until it's solved.

Everything seems to be normal right?

Well then last night at 2 AMI get a call from an unknown number asking if I'm home.

I ask who is this and they hang up.

I notify the police but they say there is little they can do.

I really love the neighborhood besides this and I don't want to quit my job but I'm just pondering moving out of the States and changing numbers.

I have a baby on the way and can't take my family safety for granted.

Is there absolutely any advice you guys could give me to help me guide through this?

Thanks and God bless and now let's get into some top comments.

Someone says ask the people you bought the house from if there's anyone bitter about the sale.

Sometimes relatives or friends expect a free house or family discount but it got sold.

It could be unrelated but it's possible he's doing this to move you out.

I would at least ask the previous owners or their agent and rule that out if nothing else.

Especially if it was an estate sale from a death and someone is emotionally tied to the property but it had to be sold.

Most burglars scope out a house but don't usually want confrontation.

This seems psychological.

He wants you to know he's there.

Do you have a friend with a big dog you can borrow?

Ask a neighbor if they have a camera or a nest Cam they can pull footage from to see him or his car from a different angle.

Can the phone number he called from be seen on your phone?

Your phone company probably can't give you a name, but someone at the company might be able to tell you if it's a burner phone.

The behavior seems really concerning.

Unfortunately, if this person doing this randomly is mentally ill, you're likely not going to get logical motives from an illogical mind.

Call the police every single time.

Ask if patrol can be increased in your neighborhood.

Have your wife call because sometimes they're unfortunately more sympathetic to scared women.

I'd get some motion activated.

Floodlights around your house.

I'm sorry you're going through this.

Not feeling safe in your own house is horrible.

There's such a personal element to this, especially with your phone number being called.

Can you try thinking to when you moved and who would have access to your cell phone and go from there?

New job, new house.

Do you work somewhere political right now in elections, election software or in some way linked to some crazy election theory?

And then the OP responds to the saying Hi there so I'll try and answer as good as possible.

From what I understand the previous owners were a young couple like us.

I asked the neighbors around them and they said they were so friendly and often held neighborhood parties at the house.

But you might be on to something.

When I bought the house there was a boxing war between me and some other person.

I will ask my real estate agent in the morning.

Unfortunately no one else has cameras to get potential plates.

I was really hoping they would so we would know the car and he could be tracked down.

I completely agree.

He wants to scare me and for me to know he was there.

I would love the idea of a big dog to borrow but my wife is really pregnant and I wouldn't want her to fall over it or for it to trip her.

And that last thing you said made a light go off my head.

Not going to brag, but my wife is a very successful businesswoman in the area who also holds a seat in our local district.

We live in a military slash conservative type town and she ran as a Democrat, so that might have something to do with this.

And I was kind of helping her campaign.

I was just kind of slinging around my numbers, so you never know.

Thanks for these ideas.

I'll let you know what happens.

Thanks.

And then a lot of the other comments under this thread were kind of copying the big thread that I just read.

And sadly the OP has since deleted their profile.

So we can't get any other posts or see any of the posts or comments that they made.

But we just never got an update.

So hopefully they're all right because I mean, that is just so scary.

I mean, it's scary enough that some guy is stalking them, but for the guy to peek through his window and then laugh about it and also call his phone number supposedly or allegedly, we don't know if the guy did call his phone number, but most likely, I mean at 2:00 in the morning, some random guy calls and laughs and hangs up.

That is very, very scary and very, very odd.

But sadly we don't know what happened because like I said, the OP deleted the profile or their profile.

So hopefully the O PS safe, hopefully the O PS wife is safe and hopefully they didn't have to move or do anything more drastic because this stalker guy seems a little bit off his rocker.

So what do you guys think?

My friend keeps talking about this girl he met online.

Something seems odd.

My childhood friend, whom I've known since we were three years old, has had trouble organizing his life since the pandemic.

After some setbacks, he managed to get back on track and start studying while working with his father.

He told me he met a girl online while playing Play DoH, a game, and I didn't think much of it because he always made his virtual friends.

I stopped talking to him regularly for about 3 months due to my routine.

When we resumed our conversations, he began to tell me more about this girl.

At first I was very receptive and believed them.

This girl is from abroad, the USA.

She skipped a few years of high school due to her intelligence.

She speaks 5 languages.

She graduated with the second best GPA in oncology medicine from Harvard.

She joined UNICEF and went on many missions around the world.

All of this while being only 22 years old.

She has a very rare blood type, commonly known as a golden blood.

People with this blood type are at high risk during surgeries which led to almost all of her family members passing away.

She moved to our city for a supposed job opportunity and because she been talking to him for a long time.

I didn't believe any of this story, but he spoke with incredible confidence and sounded frantic.

Every time I questioned whether he was joking, he assured me he wasn't.

It turns out she got sick recently which triggered a heart problem, so she's been confined to her home because she needs transfusions.

For some reason.

My friend stopped going to work and studying and even quit college.

He distanced himself from everyone and rarely responds to messages.

When he does, it's to talk about her, his supposed girlfriend he met online.

He says that he needs to talk to her all the time because due to her condition, she's in danger of having a heart attack or something.

Over time, he started saying stranger things like that she was being harassed by people from the Plato community.

These people would make fake screenshots showing him being unfaithful and she chose to believe them.

She made him believe that she had abandoned her lifelong friends because they were against him.

He even mentioned that she claims to have some sort of power to predict deaths.

He describes her as if she was a genius or Messiah.

Once I invited him to play play DoH and he agreed.

I managed to talk to the girl via call and realize that he was indeed talking to another person.

She didn't seem brilliant at all.

In fact, I suggested that testing my level in one of the languages she supposedly speaks and she pretended to lose the connection.

My friend even changed his phone number because he believes her wealthy Russian ex-boyfriend will track him down.

He also mentioned that she knows how to hack phone numbers and Access Bank accounts.

He told a very MC Cobb story about a murder of one of her family members that showed me to the bone.

He says that he met this girl and that they made out.

They both told me in the call.

I mentioned before that they met each other in person.

Something seems very odd.

I'm losing my friend and I don't know what to do.

I'm unsure if they want to take money from him or something worse.

I don't want to oppose him for fear that he might shut me out and stop talking to me.

My friend was never a liar.

I've known him since I was a child.

I'm doubting everything.

I don't know if she's lying.

If my friend is lying to me for some reason.

I don't know what else to do to help my friend.

What should I do?

And then people in the comments start immediately debunking this lady.

Someone says only 43 people in the world have ever been reported to have RH, no blood, or the golden blood.

What are the chances that someone with his blood type also skipped multiple grades, graduated early from Harvard, speaks 5 languages, and has traveled around the world with UNICEF?

And there are no news articles, medical journals, Harvard announcements to be found on the Internet.

Highly unlikely.

And then the opiate response saying she also claims her whole family had this blood type.

There is no way her stories are true.

And then someone else says I don't know what type of oncology degree she's claimed to have.

But Harvard doesn't have a dedicated oncology program.

It seems they have a clerkship and residency program that only targets radiation oncology.

So immediately, everything about her has immediately been debunked.

And then the OP gives us an update.

And the update says my friend and I went to his house without notifying him.

His mother opened the door and told us that she'd been thinking of contacting us because she's also very worried about her son.

She shared more details with us.

He sleeps all day, wakes up around 7:00 to 8:00 PM in the evening and spends the whole night talking to this woman.

We also learned something that really alarmed us when he changed his number out of fear of the Russian man.

He also got a phone line for the woman.

That is the phone number I talked to and the one my friend talks to every night is in his name.

The woman he talks to is completely untraceable.

His mother is very concerned because he mentioned that soon he wants to go visit the woman to take care of her.

My friend and I told her that under no circumstances should let him go out to find this woman because he risks never coming back.

My friend and I took him outside of his house and for a while he was like he used to be, but he kept talking about fantastical stories about the woman.

His parents are going to try to get psychological help.

The situation has become very creepy.

I don't know what this woman wants from my friend and now I'm quite sure they never met in real life.

I'm afraid this quote woman might want to kidnap him.

I'm not even sure if she is only one person or more because he mentions that he was harassed by other numbers.

She hacked them and messaged him through these numbers to show him that she took possession of the phone numbers and obviously she is the one behind all these numbers.

This is so weird.

I'm so worried.

I'm only posting this on Reddit to know if this type of scam where you can get contacted by so many numbers happened before and what does she or they want from my friend And the OP posted this in like 5 different subreddits and no one really had a good idea of what this person wanted from the friend because the lady apparently never asked for money ever so it's not financially motivated.

But I'm just confused because I mean, I'm going through all the comments on all these different posts in the OP has never given an extra update or a new update on what happened to the friend because the friend seems completely enthralled in this woman.

Whether he was just alone and finally got the attention of a girl or whatever, who knows.

I mean, people can do these dumb things when they finally get attention from a girl.

But I mean, I don't see how this guy doesn't see through this.

He's like, Oh yeah, this very Unicorn of a person loves me.

And I also can never meet them.

I can also never video chat them and I'll never do anything with them.

I mean people I guess just get blinded by like love or whatever but this is very strange and we never got an update post.

We never knew what happened to the friend and we also don't know what the motivation was.

Was it just some mentally deranged person who wanted to get all these attention or is it a compulsive liar of sorts?

I mean to be honest we don't know and there has never been an update since sadly.

So I really do wonder what this scammer or person even wanted, but it's very very strange.

Somebody talking to me through a speaker in my house.

OK guys, this just happened and I'm pretty freaked out.

I was out and about running errands and when I got back home I decided to relax and sit on my couch to listen to my audiobook.

All of a sudden I hear a voice shout my name, not loudly but it caught my attention since I was home alone.

It sounded like it came directly across from me, which is where the TV is.

I paused my audio book and didn't hear anything else.

I live in a townhouse on an end unit so I assumed I misheard and it was a maintenance guy or neighbor talking to each other outside.

I resumed my audio book and then heard the voice again a bit more garbled and I couldn't understand what it said.

I paused my audio book again and then heard it say now I can't hear you.

I was never speaking but I was playing my audio book out loud.

This time I could tell it definitely came from inside from the TV area.

I walked over to the TV and started looking around not sure for what exactly.

I was just on edge and I could hear a bit of background noise like someone walking or turning pages in a book.

I felt super uneasy and not sure where the voice is coming from so I went to my car and left my house.

The voice was low pitched, deeper, Definitely a male voice, no accent.

It sounded clear for the most part but a little bit fuzzy, like if you're listening to someone talk on a speakerphone.

I think I just couldn't hear the part that was garbled because the audio book was playing at the same time so I couldn't make out what the voice said.

I have an Amazon fire stick hooked up to the TV that has a built in Alexa.

I couldn't quite tell if the voice came through the TV which was off or a speaker or something else, but it was definitely in the area.

I'm positive it wasn't the fire stick built in Lexa accidentally being voice activated because of it being a male voice and because of the background noise.

This is the first time anything like this has happened.

It could be nothing but I'm pretty freaked out because it knew my name instead.

It couldn't hear me only after I paused my audio book, so I think someone can hear what's going on from inside my house.

What could it be, what do I do?

Edit I wasn't going to include this at first due to fear of doxing slash that a certain person would see it, but this post gained enough attention that I feel adding this information may help you draw a conclusion.

I am purposely being vague here to keep me from being identified as a teenager.

I was R worded by an older acquaintance.

He threatened me to keep quiet and had stalking behavior such as showing up at my house unannounced etcetera.

He only stopped when I temporarily relocated because of him.

Roughly a year later I moved back and never heard from him again.

This summer he contacted me through social media.

I don't want to get too specific, but the day he contacted me was no accident.

It was the anniversary of when he awarded me.

It has also happened around the same time I started to work in a field where my contact information is public.

When he initially contacted me, he was to apologize.

He did not admit what he did, he just said he was sorry.

At first I answered his messages.

This was obviously a mistake.

The reason being my mind sort of reverted back into the protection mode it was in during that time period where I was as he said or there would be consequences.

I felt that by ignoring him he would see it as a rejection and make him angry.

I felt that would put me in more danger than to respond to the messages.

So I stupidly responded to his messages until they got creepy.

He asked me very personal questions about my daily routine and schedule.

He asked if he could come over.

At that point, a new responding to him was more dangerous than ignoring him and I started ignoring his messages and blocked him on social media.

But he made new accounts and kept sending messages.

I also believed he hacked my Facebook and unblocked himself.

But after changing my password there there weren't any more Facebook issues.

The messages from new accounts came less and less the last few months.

The last messages I got was over a month ago.

I thought he had given up because I haven't been opening his messages.

Now I'm wondering if he is behind this.

It might sound irrational or unlikely, but this guy's smart.

He was always very interested in technology and as I said, I think he hacked my Facebook before.

I wonder if he's escalating because contacting me on social media isn't working.

A couple months after I started getting the messages, I reported him to my local police.

They of course say they can't do anything.

I don't have an order of protection or anything because he was never prosecuted.

I know I should have included this at first but I was afraid to.

And then the OP makes another edit saying the other reason I originally didn't include being R worded in Stockton's post is because I knew that some people would see that and automatically jump to the conclusion of psychological issues or hallucinations.

Yes, I suffered A horrific trauma and that makes hallucinations more likely than if it didn't happen.

But just because I went through what I went through doesn't mean the possibility of tech issues, accidental interference, or hacking just goes away.

I didn't include my trauma at first because I wanted to eliminate automatic assumptions that mental health is behind all this without giving thought to the other possibilities.

And then the OP makes another edit #3 saying a redditor suggested I use my Alexa app on my phone to see the connected devices and listed four things.

The app itself in echo dot.

I bought my mom an echo for her birthday like 2 years ago and I called her and asked if she uses it and she said she never even set it up or took it out-of-the-box.

I'm guessing the echo dot showed up on the devices because I purchased it on Amazon.

It says offline next to where it lists the echo dot.

Lastly it shows 2 fire sticks.

Both say online.

I only have one fire stick.

I don't know what this means in relation to the voice I heard from the speaker, but I think it has to mean something.

And then the OP makes a fourth and final update saying sorry I haven't updated.

I've been spending much needed time with family and haven't been online as much.

Reading everyone's responses has been very enlightening and seeing this many Internet strangers care about my well-being is something I'm not used to.

I didn't mean to leave anyone hanging.

I've made a call to Amazon to see if they can give me any information on the second fire stick, but they've escalated to the investigations after I explained the possible hacking and I'm expecting a call back within 48 hours.

I will try to update once I hear back.

I have consistently been with family so I'm not alone right now.

Also, no more voice in the speakers happened since.

Let's hope it stays that way.

I wish I had a better update, but this is where I am right now.

Thank you all for caring so much.

It gives me confidence in humanity.

And then everyone in the comments kind of reaches the same conclusion, thinking that the O PS Wi-Fi got hacked or someone got access to either the Amazon Fire stick or her TV or a speaker or a phone or something like that and is talking through it.

Because that's something that can happen if someone hacks into a camera or your fire stick or whatever.

Very creepy.

But then the OP doesn't really give us an update for the whole year.

And then someone comments saying update and the OP gives us a well needed update saying I was able to have the second fire stick removed from my account.

He hasn't contacted me on via the fire stick since, but he continues to message me via social media.

I'm not responding to the messages but he hasn't given up.

He did manage to somehow figure out my location in one of the more recent messages.

He messaged me only to state store slash restaurants and other places I've been that week.

I believe he did that to get me to respond but I haven't.

I've been pretty hyper vigilant and I've been extra aware of my surroundings.

I take every safety precaution I can and at this point I just trying to accept the situation for what it is.

And then the commenter replies saying it was confirmed that it was the second fire stick as the issue.

Were you able to ever locate a second one in your house that he may have planted?

Sorry for all the questions, your story just really gave me the creeps and I got curious.

I'm glad you're OK.

I'm sorry they have to accept such a situation as just.

It is what it is and then the OP response saying it's OK.

It wasn't in my house but it was tied to my account.

I don't know where the fire stick actually was, I'm guessing his house, but Amazon was able to disable it and disconnect it from my account.

And so that update is helpful, but it doesn't answer a lot of questions like who was the person speaking through?

Was it through the Amazon fire stick?

Was it through the TV?

Was it through something else?

And who was talking?

Was it kind of the stalker that was talking the OP or was it someone completely different?

I mean, we don't seem to have a clear answer on that.

And the OP has never posted about this story again.

So I guess we'll never know because this has been five years or four to five years since the last comment on the issue.

So I don't know.

I wonder who's talking through it, but what do you guys think?

Creepy gift left on my doorstep.

So a few weeks ago I found a purple bag left on my doorstep.

Thinking maybe my partner had left me a surprise, I went and grabbed it.

Well, it definitely wasn't for my partner, but it was a surprise.

In the bag was a toy, a packet of Lube, some loose batteries, 3 pairs of underwear, and a note.

I've attached a link here of what was inside that thing.

And then the OP posts a link and I don't know how much of the second show.

I'm going to blur a lot of it because I don't know if underwear and the toy is allowed to show on YouTube but you get the vibe.

And then the note which I think says you are Yum and awesome, just go solo, it's easy.

Err and I think it says waterproof.

So the lady wheats are Easter waterproof so obviously freaky.

Obviously it's some creep that left this and let's continue on the O PS post.

The OP then says I have a vague feeling that it might be my neighbor who often watches me and makes weird remarks to me but I have no actual proof.

I tried going to the police and they made a note of the incident but basically told me they couldn't do anything about it and that I should get security cameras and trust my gut about who did it.

I know this neighbor has been in some kind of trouble with the police before and I've heard from a girl I know that he has a habit of harassing women.

It's creepy enough on its own but what makes it even weirder is the underwear are similar to the ones I bought a few months earlier, but those specific ones have been in my ASOS wish list since the end of last year ish.

I don't remember showing anyone them so I'm not sure if it's just a coincidence or if this person has some of my passwords to different accounts.

I'm definitely in the process of trying to find some security cameras I can afford, but I was wondering what options I have here.

Is there any way I can do some digging to figure out if this is the guy I think it was or even find out more info about him?

And even if I do find out it was him or I catch him on my doorstep, can anything even be done?

And now let's get into some top comments.

Someone says this sounds stressful to deal with.

A few thoughts.

Number one, in terms of a camera, the Wise Cam is only around $30 and works well #2 do you trust your landlord or any neighbors other than the shady 1?

Might be helpful to give someone else a heads up and have them keep their eyes open and help document too #3 is your name on your apartment mailbox or by your doorbell?

If so, it might be worthwhile to remove it slash change it if possible to see if that deters anything #4 do you have any ex partners who might do this kind of thing?

In that case I would be careful with your online accounts.

Otherwise maybe coincidence #5 in case you do need to take more action down the road, be sure to document anything else that happens and update the police.

Stay safe.

And then the OPIE responds to the saying thank you.

Unfortunately I can't really trust my neighbors.

There's this one that is semi OK but haven't seen him in a month now so I'm not sure if he even lives in my complex anymore.

Thankfully no name or anything in my apartment or mailbox, and I keep my mailbox locked at all times so it can't be snooped through.

In terms of ex partners, it's a possibility but I haven't had any contact with any of them since things ended and they didn't end in a particularly bad or messy way.

It's definitely something I'm going to consider though, thank you.

And then someone else says whoever it was, they can't spell easier.

Such a short note and they managed to misspell it not only once, but twice.

Easier with AY and easy.

Err.

Does the neighbor you suspect have any public social media?

If they do, I take a look and see if they have happened to use the same word with the same misspelling anywhere.

It's not enough to prove or disprove anything, obviously.

Lots of people make similar spelling errors, but if you already suspect someone and managed to find out they misspelled the word similarly to how it's misspelled on the note, it is a small clue to say the least.

And then the opiate spawns and makes a chilling discovery saying this is a super good idea.

I know he does have a social media because I needed his full name to pass along to the police and coincidentally he had my little cousin added.

Eww.

But I haven't even thought to look for those same misspelling.

Thank you.

And then someone responds saying why would he have your little cousin added?

This sounds like you wanted someone close to you so he could Snoop around your profiles and then the OP says.

The only excuse I can think of is that they went to the same high school.

I'm not sure his age compared to her though, so that could be pretty flimsy.

And that is a pretty damning discovery to say the least.

I mean what are the chances this random neighbor or seems like a random neighbor to have the O PS cousin added?

To me, this seems like evidence of the guy wanting to stalk the O PS social media profiles without being explicitly mentioned.

Like hey, your neighbor's following you now instead he can just follow the O PS cousin and easily stalk the OP, if that makes sense.

So it seems like he's wanting to follow the OP but doesn't want to explicitly follow the OP.

So the OP is like, Oh well, he's following me now.

But Tom, ever since then we sadly haven't got an update.

But that note is very creepy saying here, use these and stuff like that like that is so weird.

And having a toy and underwear, I mean that is just obviously, obviously weird.

And I just wonder who it is.

I mean, we haven't got an update since then.

So I wonder what happened to the OPI mean did it just stop one day or what?

I mean it doesn't seem like we'll get an update anytime soon.

This was three years ago.

So what do you guys think?

Because I'm kind of at a loss, but I would suspect the neighbor.

I guess allegedly, but we really don't have a lot of evidence to go off of.

I mean it could just be some stranger that also lives nearby that stocks the OP commonly or it could be the neighbor.

I mean it seems pretty damning to me that the neighbor follows the O PS little cousin.

That's really weird.

But I don't know, we haven't got an update.

So what do you guys think?

I received a terrifying scary notes in my mailbox.

Hello, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this.

I'm using a throwaway because I don't want this on my main account.

It is currently 7:27 PM in England and about 40 minutes ago I opened my mailbox to find this weird and completely terrifying note.

The link is at the bottom of the post and we'll get into it later.

It definitely seems like the person riding this was riding with their other hand to not get their handwriting recognized.

And this is what scares me so much.

Why would this person go to the trouble of doing this if the only sketchy thing they were going to do is write a note?

I was at my cousin since noon and before leaving I checked my mailbox and nothing was there.

This means that the note was put there between noon and the time I found it, so about a 7 hour period.

It wasn't inside a letter.

I don't know anyone who could do this and I haven't noticed anything strange recently.

I did call my close friends and they all advised me to go to the police, which I'm planning on doing so as soon as I can, but I'm not sure what they can even do.

One thing for sure is that I'm not sleeping tonight.

Do you think I'm overreacting?

My boyfriend thinks I am and that it's just a prank and I hope it is but I can't be sure.

Has there been reports of similar happenings in England that you know of?

Thank you and I'll edit this post when needed.

And now let's get into the picture.

In the picture or the letter or the piece of paper reads as follows.

Don't leave your window open, you might get sick or worse.

Are you ready?

Goodnight.

With an eye drawn.

And like the OP said, it does look like either horrible handwriting or written with the person's opposite or non dominant hand and then a very crudely drawn eye.

And obviously, this is very weird and also threatening.

I mean, Are you ready?

It could be worse than being getting sick.

I mean, obviously very, very creepy.

And now let's get into some comments.

Someone says any neighbors with security cameras that possibly have your mailbox in view?

Also, is there any way you could set up surveillance on your mailbox?

And then the OP says it is not a very wealthy neighborhood, but I could go ask.

And As for the mailbox, I don't really see how I could do that.

Putting something on the mailbox would be too obvious and I don't have a camera but I will be on the lookout tonight.

Someone else says prank or not, kid or not, this shit's scary.

AFI do agree with the people that say this is a teenager or adult just based on the clear deception of trying to disguise their handwriting and the shape of the eye.

You're not being paranoid.

Someone put a threatening message into your mailbox.

Not taking it as a threat is irresponsible, even though there is a very low chance it's a true threat.

Always take things like this seriously as your future could depend on it.

My suggestions number one, contact your neighbors.

If it was a prank, probably more than just your mailbox was hit.

They may also be able to let you know if someone came to your door #2 Not sure how old you are but tell your family or a loved one.

Have someone stay with you tonight if you live alone and #3 tell the police as soon as possible.

And then unfortunately the OP makes an edit to his post saying edit.

I'm going to handle the situation on my own.

Thanks for everybody who has been nice but posting here was just dumb.

Bye.

And we have never heard from the OP again.

The OP supposedly said he's going to the police, but who knows.

So what do you guys think?

Do you think it was some kid playing a prank and just wrote that and put it in his mailbox?

Or do you think someone's seriously trying to threaten the OP or do something bad to the OPI mean I don't know.

I'm kind of on the fence here because it could very easily be a prank, but at the same time it could very easily be someone tried to do something a little bit more sinister and sadly we literally have not gotten a single shred of update since then.

So this is open-ended so I don't know, but what do you guys think?

My mother believes she's being hacked in, spied on, which is quite literally driving her crazy.

I don't know what to do.

My mother believes her ex-boyfriend has hacked her phone, implanted many video cameras and microphones in her house.

This has been going on for quite some time now, at least a year and I'm not quite sure what to do to help her or put her mind at ease.

I don't believe there is any validity to any of her claims.

I've gone over to her house many times to investigate things that she thinks have been tampered with.

Her house was built in the 1920s.

Some examples a baseboard in her bedroom that she is convinced was taken off so wires could run behind it.

The board is very solid and does not move at all.

There is 0 evidence that the board was ever tampered with rips in her bedroom carpet that to her were obviously used to run wires under her carpet.

There are no signs of any wires being run out of the carpet.

It's at least 20 years old and quite frankly needs to be replaced.

An old computer monitor in the closet of my old bedroom.

It's my old monitor, but she's convinced that it's a different monitor and wasn't there before.

Funny business in the attic.

There's a random VCR sitting in the attic.

She insists that she'd not put the VCR there.

There is nothing in the attic besides his VCR and some random scraps of wood.

She thinks her ex moved the VCR to the attic to set up some sort of spy slash recording contraption about 15 years ago.

She had insulation put in the attic so the only area of the attic that is usable is like a 2 by 3 area floor.

The floorboards are old and some are kind of loose.

She believes this is also fishy.

She believes the pile of wood scraps was not there before that.

He pulled the pieces of wood up in the attic and hid them in the corner.

She also pointed out a wire that she said wasn't there before.

The wire runs from the light switch the bottom of the stairs up to the lights in the attic.

Obviously this power wire has been there all along, but she doesn't think so.

The other closet in my bedroom has a wall that she believes was repainted white.

The wall is pretty dirty and does not look like it has been painted in the last 20 years.

She thinks he painted this wall to hide wires.

The walls in the house are plaster.

They are old and cracked in places, rippled in others.

She believes that he ran wires and painted over them, causing the ripples.

To me it does not seem like there are wires running behind the paint.

There are lots of random wires in the house.

Old cable wires, phone wires, and electric wires that have been cut and are no longer being used.

I think the wires are just wires that she never noticed before, but now that she's paranoid she is noticing them.

The wires don't lead to anything.

A few random holes in the ceiling of her bedroom.

This is actually the weirdest one for me as I don't know why there would be holes in the ceiling.

They appear to have been drilled out and are about 3 by 8 inch circumference.

I don't see anything inside the holes.

I know there are loads of other things that I'm not thinking about the moment.

I don't think her house has been tampered with, but you can't tell her otherwise.

She got rid of her Internet slash cable about nine months ago because she was paranoid.

If he did somehow or for some reason have some elaborate spy network set up, how could he be transmitting his Recon back to him with no connection to the Internet?

There's also the issue with her phones.

She has sent me countless screenshots of apps that are using her location in the background or that to her seem suspicious.

Screenshots that I don't really understand.

I'm just so confused.

Has anyone experienced anything like this before and what can I do to help her?

Some screenshots she sent me and for some reason the link no longer works.

But I guess it's just probably screenshots of their conversations and the mother is worried.

I mean I feel really bad for her.

But then the OP continue saying I know the language of this post may seem condescending but really I'm just annoyed and so over the situation.

I think she just needs to burn the house down and get a flip phone.

And now before we get into some comments, the OP did make an edit to his original post answering some common questions.

So let's get into that.

Before we get to the comments.

The O PS response or the edit reads as follows saying wow was not expecting this type of response.

Thank you.

My mother is 50 years old.

I believe my mother is diagnosed bipolar.

Not a conversation I've ever had with her, just something I recall my grandma saying.

She's not particularly healthy.

I do worry about her lifestyle choices at least.

A pack a day smoker, drinks absolutely no water or milk, little to no physical activity.

She has RA and fibromyalgia.

I'm sorry if I mispronounce that.

And I know lupus runs on her side of the family.

She's been unemployed basically since the pandemic started and spends most of her time at home.

Her ex spent a lot of time at her house when she was still working.

This is when she believes he bugged her house.

To me he seems like a nice man.

I know he spent a lot of money on her and never asked for anything in return.

Paid her mortgage a few times.

He did spend a lot of time on his phone slash iPad but I don't think he was really all that tech savvy.

I guess he did mention to her a while back that at his work they have a lot of video cameras and that she wouldn't believe how small they could be.

At this point they've been separated for like 2 weeks and her paranoia has skyrocketed.

She looks like she's aged 10 years in such a short time.

Looks like she hasn't slept in days.

A few days ago she called the cable company to have them come over and remove all of their cable wires within a few hours.

Her ex randomly shows up this morning.

She said that yesterday he came to her house while she was out and installed more wires.

She's already changed her lock so I'm not sure how he would have gotten in or how she knows he was in her house.

Sorry for the lengthy edit, but trying to answer a lot of common questions and give a little more information.

And now let's get into some comments someone says.

I've worked in the justice system for a very long time, specializing in mental illness, in behavioral health disorders.

In my long career, I've seen hundreds of these situations.

There have been rare instances, I can only recall one actually, where someone was actually being spied on.

But otherwise this is an extremely common but frightening and complicated fixed delusion.

If your mom does not have a history of mental health concerns, it's important that you have her assessed for a multitude of potential issues.

Depending on her age, it could be a stroke, dementia, Huntington's, even dehydration, other medical issues.

It could be many other things Others have mentioned a potential environmental factors, toxins that should also be ruled out.

If she has changed medications or stop taking one, or increased her alcohol usage or stop drinking for that matter, it could also be related to that.

If you're comfortable asking her questions about changes in any of these conditions, kindly and gently, it could be valuable Intel to give doctors.

It's uncommon for someone without a previous history of mental health issues that included delusions to manifest itself later in life without a medical issue triggering the episode, but it is possible that some dormant gene has now presented.

It's also possible to have fixed delusions as a byproduct of a personality disorder, where essentially no amount of medication will ease the delusion because it's not a result of chemical imbalance, but rather a pattern of thinking.

Counseling and other behavioral interventions are your best bet in this case.

I know personally how challenging these situations are.

It's exasperating, exhausting, and no amount of reasoning it seems to help.

I have to actively remind myself that many times is not something that the person has control over, nor is it something they're doing on purpose.

It's as much out of their control as it is mine, and even though I don't believe this is really happening, it feels very, very real to them.

My recommendations based on information above and your intuition that the spine is a delusion #1 you cannot rationalize or reason her out of this belief #2 you can't acknowledge to her that while you're not seeing what she's seen, you can see that she is genuinely frightened.

And #3 you can assure her that you want to help her feel safe again and that you'll work with her to help find solutions to feel safer #4 because you're concerned and care about her.

In order to help, you need to start ruling out certain things, like medical conditions.

Counseling her into getting medically screened and taking these steps together will make it easier to get the help she needs.

And #5 document, document, document when she has seen doctors, don't rely on telling them these concerns in the moment.

Having screenshots of your communications with her, plus days of instances for how long this has been going on.

We'll help you illustrate to the doctor how terrifying in debilitating this has been.

Do not do things like try to fool her.

I found the wires you were worried about to remove them and everything is fine now.

Because that will deepen her paranoia, validate her concerns, or cause her to lose trust with you if she begins to take more extreme measures to protect yourself or felony to take care of herself as a result of this problem, you might have to explore involuntary evaluation options for your state slash county.

That documentation work you've already done will be extremely helpful.

Hopefully whatever the underlying reason, it can be identified and treated.

I'm so very sorry that both of you are going through this.

It can be frightening as well as frustrating to see a loved one with this condition, but the odds are very promising that if you can't identify the underlying reasons and get treatment, things will improve.

And I hope you can get some answers soon and please come back to update us.

And then someone else replies to this comment saying I work in 911 dispatch.

I get calls almost every night from people convinced they're being hacked, slash, spied on slash, someone has been in their house, etcetera.

Like you said, it's exceptionally rare that police find anything suspicious that supports their claims.

Most of the time we get a quick disposition that caller is blank.

Mental health issues.

Definitely agree with your advice.

A whole lot of things can lead to these sort of issues from the relatively easy remedied.

There are a Reddit post years ago from someone who had a carbon monoxide issue and they were leaving notes to themselves and moving stuff around in their home and they had no idea they were doing it.

A cheap Co detector revealed the issue and they were able to get everything fixed to more severe mental illness or brain cancer etcetera.

OP should rule out what they can, but also be prepared to reach out to doctors, therapists, etcetera to get to the root of the problem and figure out the best way to tackle this issue.

And then someone else come and saying how old is your mom?

Both my grandma's have slash had dementia and this was the first sign of it.

Paranoia.

I would definitely take her to the doctor.

She might protest normal for dementia or mental illness but it's for her health.

I know how frustrating this is.

Still going through it with one of my grandma's but thinking of it from their perspective, I'm sure life is really disorienting as your brain is not doing what it should be doing.

And then someone else replies to that saying absolutely.

I had to move in with my grandma for a while this year, 90 years old, because she was having so many incidences.

She'd wake up at 3:00 AM, see men looking at her through the windows or women walking through her home and run and call the police, completely frightened.

They do a sweep of her house and leave.

They've come so many Times Now.

When I was staying there, it only happened once, but she was freaked out.

It made me have so much more empathy for the situation.

I could tell how scared she was.

I treated it like it was possible someone was out there, even though I knew there wasn't.

Then when she loses something, her first thought is that someone stole it or took it.

She starts calling around questioning people.

She never stops to think maybe it was me.

Because of her age, she believes everyone is trying to take advantage of her and steal her money.

It's a tiring thing to deal with, but what can you do, you know?

And then someone else comments, how old is she?

It might be dementia.

When my grandmother was in her 60s or 70s, she started thinking her neighbors are spying on her, the dentist was intentionally harming her, etcetera.

And so that seems to be a very common thing is dementia or some other mental health issue, but a very, very sad situation.

And sadly the OP has never given us an update on the situation.

So I don't know.

I really do hope the OP's mother got help.

And I just, you know, I think this is a very good post to read because I mean like everyone said in the comments, this is very common for people to believe these things.

So if any of you guys are watching, you're not alone.

Things can be fixed and it might be hard, but it's for the person's best interest for you to help them out and get it figured out because you know, they're terrified and not in their right mind, which is so sad.

But this was a pretty interesting post and I just hope the O PS doing better now and the OP's mother is doing better now.

On to the next one.

I went out for a few drinks and came back with all my accounts emptied.

So really I just cannot piece together how this has happened.

I was in my hometown on a casual night out with friends and after we parted ways I have a period of absolutely no memory and all of my bank accounts, business, personal and savings with two separate banks have had all the money taken out.

There are ATM withdrawals from 2 accounts at about 4:00 AM and these were the two accounts I had bank cards on my person for.

So I initially thought perhaps I'd had a card cloned whilst I was out, but I was only using one of them so it makes no sense how they could have both been copied and used successfully.

It gets a lot worse however.

After taking the Max possible out via ATM, there is a further €2000 spent in a currency exchange and another €1500 shows in what shows in my banking app as a restaurant, though not somewhere I can find any information on.

To use my cards and the machines they'd need my PIN.

They could have seen me entering this whilst I was out, but I'm completely at a loss as to how they get the PIN for both cards when I was only using one.

Worst yet, there was a transfer made from a completely separate banking account of mine into the current account I had the card for.

This can only have been made via the app on my phone, which is authorized using my fingerprints.

So the crooks topped up the account they had the cards for with more of my money, which they then stole.

So there's three separate accounts they've been able to access somehow, and I've also been getting texts and emails about loan applications made in my name.

This means that they've had access to my phone, my bank accounts, and my e-mail.

How could they have got all this?

I've blocked all my accounts, not that there's anything left to take from them and frankly the bank aren't being very helpful.

The police were a little more interested and have taken a full statement and pledged to look at CCTV from the various places cash has been taken out and spent.

However I'm still concerned this isn't over because I can't see any way they could do this without my phone being compromised and I haven't worked out how this has happened.

Fairly sure I must have been spiked to have this 6 to 8 hour blackout window, but does this mean they've just used my finger whilst I was passed out to keep unlocking my phone and authorize the transactions they've made?

Because I've still got my phone and my card, so why wouldn't they have just kept these or disposed of them?

In a further twist of curiosity, both my main banking apps on my phone had disappeared from the folder they sit in.

The apps are still on my phone but have been moved either in a failed attempt to uninstall them or it could be that these aren't the legit apps and are some kind of clones that were installed in place of the originals.

So can anyone piece together any suggestions as to how this has all been carried out?

Is it possible there's some kind of phone cloning going on?

Or is it more likely I've just been drugged and they've managed to get everything they need from my phone whilst I was out of it?

I realize now how vulnerable it is having all of your banking on your phone and all of its access with your fingerprint.

If it had needed a PIN or unlock pattern, surely there's no way they could have gotten in.

Obviously I feel completely awful for letting myself get scammed so badly, and I'm not holding out any hope that there's any way to get any of my money back, which was literally everything I own.

I just really wish I could get a better understanding of how this has happened to me.

Is this a targeted attack or just opportunistic and I've just been very unlucky?

Look at the mystery €1500 payment before.

If anyone recognizes any of the weird stuff here please do let me know as even the police seemed a bit baffled at the fact I'd had three separate accounts professionally emptied and yet still have my bank cards and phone and Oh my gosh this is just such a scary situation.

I can imagine waking up and being like Oh my God all of my money is gone.

I don't know what happened and they emptied everything from my name.

I mean that is so scary.

But let's get into some comments.

Someone says you didn't let someone scam you.

You were hurt and robbed and I'm horrified for you.

This is a sickening crime on your person.

I understand the need to lock down your assets first but also take the time when you can to face the trauma of this.

It'll sneak up on you if you don't.

Also see doctor if you haven't already.

Someone knocked you out for 6 to 8 hours.

Jesus that is deadly serious.

Getting some blood work done and getting a physical exam is important for your Peace of Mind.

And then the OP replies saying thank you.

It has been difficult to process because I'm just so clueless as to what could have happened and half of me thinks I must have just been very stupid and this is my fault whilst the other half is just utterly confused.

It's part of the reason I started this thread because I don't understand what's happened.

And then the OP gives us a quick update saying quick update for all those interested.

I've collected all the activity I've discovered by Google's invasive but useful snooping and I'm speaking with the investigation officer today to update on all of this, including the location history, showing times of car journeys, and all the times various different accounts were accessed, including my government tax account.

I asked about getting tested for drugs and they said it may not yet be too late.

Plus I've collected my own urine samples just in case, so I'm not holding out hope anyone want that?

So I'll follow up on this today.

I've continued to harass the bank and they finally responded saying they will log out all instances of my account.

Why would there even be more than one?

And then I'll have to authorize myself again and hope this secures the account.

There's no word on getting any of the money back, but when I speak to the police later I'll ask about CCTV and the cash machines and I'm genuinely curious to see if I feature in this footage.

It has been incredibly useful getting advice and support from everyone here and I honestly don't know where I'd be without it, so thank you to everyone who's gotten involved.

I just didn't know where to start and now I have a lot more detail on what has possibly happened, along with the counts of other people who've gone through similar, which helps me feel a little less alone.

I'm happy to come back and update further for anyone who might want to keep up with the proceedings.

Hopefully the CCTV from my building, the ATM, the bar I was in and the mysterious place my cards have been used will have something useful between them.

I'll also see if the car can be identified from any cameras the neighbors may have.

Thank you again, it really has made a big difference.

And then the OP makes another comment giving us another update saying for anyone still interested, I finally spoke to the police again after days of them avoiding me.

They said they're trying to get CCTV from the bar and places transactions have been made but I'm a bit disappointed that five days later they still haven't actually looked at anything.

The challenger bank have made 0 progress and keep just saying they're escalating, whatever that actually means.

I've made a few inquiries myself at places my money has been spent but struggling to get a hold of anyone who'll help.

It's all very deflating, but I'll keep at it.

In a bit of good news, however, the second bank did refund me, and they've actually been really nice.

That money does at least mean I can meet my rent this month, so I feel slightly less immediately stressed about finances.

I also managed to speak to someone at one of the credit reference agencies, two who confirmed the loan applications made in my name, none of which appeared to have been successful so far.

Thankfully, he also put a password on my credit file so that future credit applications would need to know that password.

That's something I didn't know you could do, and to be honest, wasn't something I'd have ever previously thought you'd even need to do.

Finally, I managed to order a cheap drug test kit using the small balance my PayPal account, and I'll use that on the urine sample I saved.

I don't imagine anyone will take that seriously, but if it does pick up anything I will at least provide me a bit of vindication.

It'll be nice to get rid of the pot of piss in my fridge too.

And then the OP gives us another comment update saying quick Tuesday update.

Now the bank holiday weekend is over, I'll hopefully get a bit more progress with the bank being able to help me with the unrecognized transactions, so I'll be chasing them today.

I was supposed to speak to the police yesterday to follow up but the call back never came and when I chased it they told me it would have to be today instead.

So fingers crossed a call and I'm keen to see if they've accessed any relevant CCTV yet, though I'm not holding my breath.

On that note, I called the bar to ask about CCTV from the night and explain the situation.

They seemed very defensive, like I was trying to illegally gain access to their footage but I explained I just wanted to make sure it wasn't erased before the police had a chance to review it.

They gave me a pretty shitty they can have it if they asked for it, and I was a bit surprised they weren't more sympathetic and helpful.

To be honest.

I've barely left my home since it's happened, so I am half tempted to visit some of the locations in my phone's history and do a bit of amateur detective work, but I feel pretty anxious about going out so I'm not sure I'm ready for that yet.

Thanks again to everyone who's shown kindness and support in the absence of anywhere IRL to turn, this has been quite therapeutic being able to discuss it openly and also hear from others with similar experiences.

And then the OP gives us another update saying minor updates for anyone still following.

The police have now reviewed all the CCTV they could get a hold of and have determined that each time my card was used, the person using it was obscured.

The hotel, the off license and the two currency exchange are all inconclusive.

The footage from the bar also fails to show anything suspicious.

Disappointing, though not entirely unexpected.

I guess these guys were professionals and knew how to avoid detection.

Anyway, I've now lodged my claim with the Ombudsman in the absence of any further evidence to support my case, so I guess I just wait to see if they'll find in my favor against the bank.

One additional piece of intriguing information has come to light, however.

When I requested all the data the bank hold on me, there is a record of my account details haven't been added to an Apple Pay account on a device labeled Jacob's iPhone.

I've never owned an iPhone or used Apple Pay, nor do I know anyone called Jacob, so this is a pretty major detail the bank never revealed to me or even asked me about.

Naturally I've explained this in my statement to the Ombudsman, so let's see what happens.

Getting my money back is all I have left now.

Seems I'll never know what actually happened the night and I'm really frustrated at this.

I never expected justice would be served to the crooks who did this, but I did hold out some faint hope I might get at least some answers.

And then the OP gives us another update saying back again with another not too exciting updates, but an update none the less.

I decided to do a bit of my own detective work and visited some of the places my card slash phone was used.

One was a fairly shady currency exchange, but they were actually quite helpful and said they keep their CCTV and would be happy to share it.

When I showed them the transaction to my app, they said that transactions of just $20 or more would be required to fill in a form with personal details.

This suggests to me that the scammers were well aware of how to do this, as if I didn't know already in order to extract the Max they could without being flagged.

The second currency exchange, the one that was originally listed as a restaurant, also confirmed they'd keep their CCTV for six weeks, so there's still time to get it at if the police play ball.

Another transaction was at a

hotel in town at 4:30 AM, so I visited the hotel to inquire about it.

I was pleasantly surprised to find the guy at the desk was very keen to help and informed me that the payment was made to pay for a booking that had been made online well in advance of the night in question.

He also confirmed that they'd not to use my name.

Obviously I don't expect whatever name they did use was legit, but it's interesting that the booking was made in advance and they paid it for the room at 4:30 AM.

It makes me wonder, was I dumped in this room whilst they took my card and phone on a spending spree?

They've also confirmed CCTV is available so I have shared all of this with the police who are still avoiding my calls.

However, one kindly woman I spoke to did a bit of digging for me and said that whilst it was disappointing nobody would call me back, she discovered that they had apparently obtained footage from the bar I was in where I think I was potentially drugged and this was being reviewed.

Difficult to know if this will lead anywhere but I'd love to see it myself just to see who I left with and how it looked.

The hotel seems like a hot lead because the booking being made advance could potentially be traced, though I can't imagine anyone will put the effort in to really dig into it, but again, the CCTV footage would be interesting.

The bank have sent their final decision saying that the response was poor, so I've been credited with €90.00 compensation.

Not even 2% of what's been taken.

That's right, really disappointing, but reiterated they will not be returning the money.

In some ways this is useful because their final decision means I can now start an official complaint with the ombudsman.

What's more, their official response said the reason for not returning the money was that they didn't believe the activity was fraudulent.

I've heard they can sometimes reject claims based on customer negligence, not taking enough care to protect our account, but the fact they've stated they think it wasn't fraudulent basically means they're accusing me of taking the money myself.

This means that if I can actually get any evidence of what's happened, I might have a fairly strong case against them.

Weirdly this week I've had notifications from another bank and from Instagram that my account has been accessed from another device elsewhere.

I've changed all my passwords and reset my phone to factory settings but can still see there was another device accessing my Google account.

It was showing 2 devices registered with access to my account, though I've now revoked access to the one I didn't recognize.

Also, the other bank from which the crooks transferred funds have sent me a letter acknowledging I was a victim of an account takeover, so they've recognized something dodgy is going on.

They've reset everything with my security so hopefully it's all secure now, but it does suggest the other bank are just ignoring the issue, especially as throughout my communication with them since it happened I've had several alerts asking me to sign out on my other device.

I don't have another device.

Digging further into my Google search history, there's all the loan applications but also attempts to access my tax account with HMRC, the government tax authority for anyone who's not in the UK, and I've also found sites in the history claiming to be able to issue tax rebates.

This makes me wonder if after making all the loan applications that apparently didn't work, the scammers tried to use a company to see if I was eligible for a tax rebate they could quickly access.

Though it seems unlikely that anyone could get a tax rebate the same day unless they anticipated being able to access my accounts longer term.

I'm still really paranoid that my phone is not secure, but I completely wiped it and changed all my login details.

I'm not sure if I previously mentioned it, but there was a second fingerprint added to my phone security settings and when I raised this with the police they said I'd have to ask the manufacturer if there was any way to determine when this was added and if it was possible to extract it.

Unsurprisingly, they said no.

In any case, it is gone now as I've reset everything, but I'm still unsure as to whether someone took my phone and could have added their own fingerprint or whether the fingerprint was added to some secondary cloned device.

I just don't know if I was present or not because I have absolutely 0 memory for about 8 hours.

I really would love to know what happened that night and how this is all pulled off, but I suspect it will always remain a mystery.

I know that not having any memory of it makes it difficult to prove I wasn't just wasted and someone nicked my phone, but the fact I still have my phone just makes it all more odd.

I could have just said my phone and cards were stolen, claimed on the insurance and maybe the bank would have refunded me.

But I was honest that I didn't know what happened happened even though I'm certain I wasn't just black out drunk.

And even if I had been, how would these people have been able to get so much of my personal data in order to have all of the loan applications etcetera if I was just passed out?

I'm still so confused but the lead from the hotel and the fact that everywhere appears to have CCTV gives me a bit of hope that I could at least get some answers.

It makes no sense to me that I could have been present in all these places the money was taken without any knowledge.

But I guess if they have my phone or a clone of it I don't really need to be present.

Once it's unlocked though, you'd think buying over €3000 worth of foreign currency should require some checks.

And now on to one of the final updates the OP says.

Thought I'd drop in for another update in case anyone is still following.

Pretty depressing I'm afraid.

The bank finally concluded they would not be refunding any of the stole money, and I've closed my accounts citing that they reserve the right to do so without needing a reason.

Just before this they finally identified the mysterious 2K transaction to a merchant that was listed as a restaurant.

It wasn't a restaurant at all, but another currency exchange place that had taken the name of a now defunct travel agent.

Took them ten days to finally find this out and I've still got no address.

To say I'm angry is an understatement.

I've continued to chase the police because nobody will provide CCTV for review without them requesting it, but I cannot get anyone there to speak to me.

I keep being told they'll call me back but nobody ever calls.

I don't want to complain about the police because I want to work with them and keep my cool, so they might eventually help.

But there's obviously a time limit on how long all the footage of the various places my cash has been withdrawn or spent will be kept because nobody will speak to me.

The clock is ticking on ever being able to get clear evidence that I have not just gone around town emptying all my accounts and throwing the money away.

If beggars believe that they could side with whoever did this simply because nobody will share evidence that will shed some light on what's happened.

But at the moment that's where I am.

Obviously I'll raise an official complaint to the Financial Ombudsman here in the UK, explain the bank account has failed to protect my funds and provided no explanation as to how the money could have ever been so, so quickly and efficiently extracted.

But I've got no idea how long this will take or whether it will ever get anywhere given this frustrating lack of evidence, despite the fact it clearly exists.

It has been a horrible couple of weeks and the administrative nightmare of it all just goes on.

I need to organize moving all my regular payments and where my income is deposited whilst also navigating official complaint procedures and continuing to chase the police.

I've already had to negotiate delays to various bills being paid simply because there's no money to pay them.

I've contacted press trying to help lean on the useless bank but so far nothing has come of this and some people have suggested I now take this to my MP to see if they can exercise some kind of authority at least on the local police force who don't seem to be doing anything.

I appreciate I'm not the most needy victim they need to support right now, but I've lost all my money and I've been severely impacted by this, Forced to borrow from family just to get by.

Obviously I'd love answers, but more than anything I just want my money back.

An acknowledgement that I've not acted negligently in sharing access to my bank accounts.

I still have no idea how this all happened, or even if I'm still at risk from future attempts to extract money from accounts.

All now need to open.

Not to mention the risk of being burgled given whoever did this has all my personal details and my home address.

It's depressing and it's frustrating but all I can do is keep fighting until I've exhausted every possible option.

One thing is for sure though, I'll be advising everyone I ever meet to avoid this dodgy challenger bank at all costs.

Appalling service and a total failure in their duty of care towards a loyal customer.

Thank you again to everyone who has shown compassion and sent supportive messages to me.

I really do appreciate everyone's advice and kind words.

I don't want money from anyone but the bank who failed me, but it has been nice to know that people care.

Keep being good people, we need you in the world.

And then the OP gives us another update.

I won't read this one in full but basically the police are still not getting the CCTV footage and she's still having issues with the bank account and Oh my God I just feel so bad for her because she's the victim in this crime but she's fighting so much to get any sort of acknowledgement that even happened.

I mean it's just so sad to me.

But that's basically one of the last updates saying hey the police are still not really helping me and I don't really know what to do.

And this was around 3 years ago.

In the last update we ever got was about a year ago when the OPIE replied to a commenter who asked did you ever find out whether or not you had been drugged and the OPIE replied saying no there was no way to tell.

I did take to get a test but it was over 24 hours later.

Unfortunately nothing showed up and I didn't realize how quickly you need to get on it.

I will never know what happened that night but at least I eventually got the money back.

OK well that's a good final update.

The OP seemed to get the money back even though it seemed like it was a never ending struggle with the bank.

But God that's just such a depressing and disturbing story.

I mean, the OP, who is obviously a victim of a crime and was seemingly drugged by some sort of drug, was fighting for months or weeks to get her money back, to get any sort of acknowledgeable with the police.

The police just were like, yeah, I mean, I guess we'll get to it.

And then they never got to it.

So they don't know who the perpetrator was or perpetrators was.

And God, it's just so scary that you can be a victim of a crime and like you just won't get help from anybody like this OP.

If the OP didn't fight so hard, the OP would have never got the money back.

And it doesn't seem the police ever caught anybody.

So at least the OP got money back.

But who knows?

Like these guys are still out here probably doing that.

But it's just so sad.

And for everyone watching it, please be safe out there.

And if you're out and about nights, going to bars, whatever, just be very, very careful of who you surround yourself with, with strangers or whatever.

I mean, it's not the O PS fault here, but still, just please be aware because you know, this can happen to any of you sadly.

So please just be aware and be just wary of strangers because you never know who might want to take advantage of you.

But it's just such a sad story.

And I know this is a very long one, but I thought each update was very insightful and interesting because it's kind of like a detective case.

The OP is like, OK, then I figured this out, figured this out.

Oh, this happened, this happened.

And I thought it was much better than just reading the first thread and then just summarizing myself.

I thought going and reading the O PS own words was very insightful but a very sad story.

But at least the OP got money back and hopefully those guys face justice from somebody.

And all right guys, that wraps up some disturbing true Reddit threads.

This was one of the longest videos I've released in like a year and a half so hopefully enjoyed.

I thought every single Reddit thread in this video was just wild.

Just so, so wild.

So I hope you thought they were interesting or entertaining.

I mean, they were so crazy.

Each one, the relationship one, the creepy notes of the door.

I mean, this was a mixed bag of Reddit threads.

So let me know if you prefer the mixed bag or you want them all to be kind of true crime or some relationship ones like that, you know, relationship one, which was just crazy or what you just like to say.

I mean just comment down below and I read every single comment.

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It means the world and this was Snook and I'll see you next time.

Bye.