This man dared walk into this building today and argue that a Lincoln log is better than a Lego.

Legos?

That's so tedious.

I want Lincoln Log is like a pimple on the ass of Lego.

That is incredible.

Welcome back to another episode of the Slightly Above Average podcast.

My name's John Maleki, and I cannot express in words how excited I am for today's episode.

Mostly because the three of us are still alive.

It's been a long 2025 was a long ass year.

Um, and it's always impressive.

If you're wondering who's alive with me, that would be my good friends Sam Pulla and Mr.

Joe Minor.

Um keeping it casual and concise, keeping me uh, I guess, uh inside the rails for today's episode.

We've got some uh dumb day planned, we've got some good day planned.

Most of that starts with whatever shit Sam's shown up with for us to snack on.

So, Sam, you got anything to snack on?

I do, I do.

Is it gonna be something that's gonna piss me off?

I mean, more than likely.

Great, let's try it.

What is it?

So there's a local gas station down the street from me.

It's a little bit more of a bodega, but they have these things before I pull them out.

I was in like high school, we took a field trip to the the Beaver County jail.

We did, and the only thing I remember it was for a site class.

The only thing I remember from that trip, they were like, people come back to jail to get these chips.

This is the whole shebang.

And these are the chips.

Is it a zap?

No, no, no.

It's literally the prison chip.

The whole now we're talking.

Well, the I've had these.

The whole shebang.

We've got the whole shebang.

Extreme, extreme.

And then I've found these?

No, I've never I found these.

I don't even know more.

They're just called jailbreaker brands.

Now we're talking.

So there's three.

I know these ones are legit.

I feel like this one's trying to be these ones.

So have you had these?

Oh, yeah, they're amazing.

Joe, your hasn't had a prison chip.

Never.

All right.

Well, um, do we just want to make a bunch of noise and piss off the editors, or do you want to put these in bowls, or what do you want to do here?

Open up the original.

The original Joe wants some OGs.

Let me try the OGs.

Really?

Yeah.

Let me just get one of these.

I think it has their story on the back, maybe.

It does.

Crafted in local prisons near you.

The potato chip itself, if you've never had these, and I think I've only had these because I I'm pretty sure you told me about these before.

Yeah, yeah.

It tastes like everything that you like ever wanted on a chip in one chip.

So they're quite confusing from a taste standpoint, right?

What do you think about that?

Right?

I tasted vinegar, then I'm I'm tasting salt, then I'm sour cream.

Sour cream, yeah.

A little bit of everything.

You get some ranch, you get some barbecue.

You get the same thing.

What do they call this?

What's it lay what just a potato chip?

Super seasoned.

Yeah, then they have extreme versions, which I'm pretty sure you're supposed to wear um a mask for in case it gets up your nose.

These ones are coming in a crinkle.

Oh, they're ruffle.

That crinkle, huh?

Joe, would you go to prison for these chips?

Oh, he's doing the Robert De Niro face.

That one was really seasoned.

Oh, yeah.

I think they're good.

You know what they remind me of?

Those Canadian chips that our friends from Canada always stop by and bring to us.

Yeah.

What are they called?

Yeah, those everything chips.

Everything seasoned or something.

Those yeah, ruffles everything, I think they're called.

They don't I don't really know if they make them here in America.

Wow.

Canada has some elite chips.

Canada is not afraid to go wild with like the flavor profile.

Ketchup chips and stuff is nuts.

Yeah.

We did have a ketchup conversation here, and I'm not I'm not too favorable on those.

But I will I will say, like, I I can get down with this chip.

Let's get into the jailbreaker brand.

I feel like those are gonna be the leak.

Go try an extreme.

You want an extreme?

I don't really want an extreme, but I'll I'll try I'll taste one.

The cell boss is considerably sweeter.

You gotta throw it.

I think I could toss it.

He can't throw something like that.

I was gonna Philip Rivers ending right to you.

Baggins.

We'll talk about him here in a little bit.

Yeah, speaking of Phillip Rivers, um, we're we're we're we got a bunch of stuff going on in like the pop culture side of sports with um old people playing again, people retiring.

Joe, what do you got queued up for us here in the sports segment of the pod?

Earlier in December, uh big Philip Rivers made his comeback to football after five years of absence.

The Colts signed him uh for the remainder of the season due to some uh hurt quarterbacks.

And I'm just curious, do you guys think it's good for the sport, bad for the sport?

There's been a lot of people going crazy online about how it's bad for football to do something like that with Phillip Rivers because you have these young quarterbacks, and it speaks more on the neglect of these young quarterbacks in today's game to have to go get Phillip Rivers and bring him out of retirement, almost into the Hall of Fame, potentially.

Not saying you would have made it, but I think it's nuts that they went and signed him just to play a couple games.

Yeah.

Um what do you think?

I'm so excited.

I love when they bring back the older guys, especially when their names I recognize.

I'm like, I remember Phillip Rivers.

I remember Phillip Rivers all day.

I love the fact that he's 44, 44, right?

I think they said he was like weighing around like 280, just totally out of shape.

Every bit of 280, and then just out of shape, but still knows the game so well.

There's that viral clip of him going around just walking the field alone.

He was just the first one at the stadium, just walking it.

He's a grandfather too, a grandfather quarterback.

I love it.

I love I love him.

I love Aaron Rodgers, I love Joe Flacco.

I hope they bring some older ones out.

I hope we go older.

It's good for the ratings, too.

That's like the Steelers calling up Big Ben and saying, hey man, we need we need one more game.

I I would love that.

Absolutely hate it.

I think it's terrible for the sport.

I think it's a reflection on how poor college football is right now.

Yeah.

Is that like you can't take young players anymore and have them jump into the NFL and be able to play?

So I think it's it's a sign of like how bad the NIL system has become with the amount of turnover that's happening in college football programs, and then seeing how it just doesn't quickly convert to the NFL.

Um, that's exactly why a team like Indy, who by the way, had a first-round pick start for them for two years, then brought in Daniel Jones, and then got rid of their future picks, then went and shopped Rivers of all people.

Like, Rivers is statistically great, great stats, doesn't win shit.

So, like, I don't understand it.

It pisses me off.

And I also hate, I hate that the that the Colts couldn't commit to a young person or think that there was anyone on that they already had in the system good enough to like jump in there.

I will say to all of Tomlin's like bullshit and he will n he would never do something like this.

He is always next man up using the guy on the depth chart.

He would never go back and hunt like a quarterback uh that that hasn't played in years.

Now I will say this when I was playing, they uh shout out to shout out to the O-line coach that other at the time.

Um he he went and got he they elevated me to the active roster instead of going because they want to do the same thing, go get a veteran that was on the couch for six months.

Um and he just wasn't into it.

But like Yeah, dude, I I think it's terrible for the sport.

I I think it's awful.

It's not nuts.

But I don't know who's on the roster.

He's physically not there anymore.

No, he his balls look a little bit less than there.

But the I will say the one thing that's nuts is like his first game against Seattle.

I mean, that man's out there every play at the line, checking protections.

He's reading the coverages.

I just think it's crazy to me that like Phillip Rivers at 44 is doing a better job at his job as a quarterback than people that have been on their roster for a couple years and they've been learning and they're not getting any better.

Like who's the dude they draft?

What Hutchinson?

What's his name?

Um the the uh the first round of the pickup, yeah.

Um Richardson.

Richardson.

Anthony Richardson.

He he he's been hurt.

He got hurt.

Again, he got hurt.

He tore his ACL or Achilles or something.

He's just got back at the end of the year.

Uh in a game.

Tore his leg up.

It's why it's why they went and signed Daniel Jones to begin with.

So at the end of the year he got activated, but we're speaking in past tense, but we're in current.

I don't they just activated him today in real time.

We cut that part out, but gotcha.

Okay, I thought he I just can't understand how there's no one on the depth chart they have to go get a Phillip Rivers.

Or why Anthony Richardson is so bad.

Or why, yeah, you know.

I think it's just like I said, it goes back to like you can't expect a college quarterback to come step in in the NFL and play anymore.

It's like very rare.

It's like wild.

Even look at like like CJ Stroud, right?

Balled out in his first year.

The Texans are on a run, right?

But like he struggled the whole first half of this season.

It's just it's just interesting for sure.

Now, a couple years, the talent is still this, like the talent I say was super high with the young guys, but they need groomed up, and that so they're the ones that are getting baptized by fire, especially if they're on any teams.

Who's to do with the Panthers?

Bryce Young.

Like Bryce Young's playing well good football.

And like the Panthers are are the Panthers are playing significantly above their expectations right now.

So, but he needed two years to get a guy together.

So it's like you need to be in an NFL system.

I also find it interesting how many coordinators are turning like mediocre quarterbacks on some teams into elite quarterbacks on others.

And when you look at it in that context, you're like the league's the problem.

The the players coming out of h college or the not being coached up to actually learn football in college are the problem.

I think going and bringing in a Rivers, who's been retired for five years in that sort of a scenario, and the Indy has one of the most prolific offenses in football.

I it pisses me off.

It just makes me mad.

There's something beautiful about an old war horse returning.

Rivers himself, beautiful, majestic.

Yeah.

It's not him, it's the league.

The thing that upset it's not him that's upset.

He's yeah, dude.

Sign that contract, dude.

Like, I I'm I'm stoked for him.

He's uh he'll forever be on the on the wall, regardless if he makes Hall of Fame or not, because of that.

Yeah, I just think the fact the league even like people even consider it.

Well, I Sam, there were so many conspiracy theories out there about how he only re-signed because he just had his 10th kid in next year or next month.

He was losing his benefits for his health insurance and paying for 10 kids' health insurance isn't cheap.

So he gets it for another X amount of.

I think it's five years again now.

He gets his insurance extended.

If that is any reason for it, that's an elite move right there.

I get what you guys are saying.

I get what you guys are saying.

Literally any staff in the in the class.

Yeah, like it's not it's 100% not right.

Well, and I get what you guys are saying about it like not actually being good for football, but from an entertainment standpoint, strictly.

Yeah, I think it's always funny how you just look at football as entertainment.

I mean, that's what it is.

It's a business.

They need they need eyeballs.

And I'm saying, like, if if some random if some no-name person came up, they're like, oh, there's a backup, and I wouldn't even know about it.

But when someone's like, I Tucker was the one that told me he said, Philip Rivers is coming back, like, back like right now, he's coming back.

Yeah, he's signing.

I'm like, I gotta, I gotta watch that.

I have to see that happen.

From an entertainment standpoint, you're 100% right.

I get the only thing I can say is if like if it went well and like was a tried and true experiment that somehow worked, I think we'd have bigger problems.

I think it can't work.

But like, we didn't know that you had technically improved.

But the GOAT retired.

He even recognized it himself.

But Brady recognized it.

But Brady played till he was older because of the system he was in.

So, like, very similar situation.

Good offensive line, great offense, good coordinator.

Like, you could play longer like that.

It's just a matter of not getting hit and shit.

I'm just curious if it would have worked out better if we would have seen quarterbacks play longer.

Like Russ, how long is Russ gonna play for?

See, I think it comes down to the style.

Like, if you look at the quarterback inherently, who whoever you're talking about, like do you guys see how pissed off Cam Newton got?

Yeah.

So Cam got live, he was livid.

But I think the reason that Cam, like Cam's obviously got a ton of talent, didn't do great in in New England when he got that shot.

But I think that's because Cam's style is a lot more of a like get out of the pocket.

He still moves the ball downfield.

Yeah.

He's not a run first.

He never the back end of his career, he wasn't run first.

But Philip was never run first.

Yeah.

And so, like Phillip, Rogers, Brady, even Ben, like those guys stood in the pocket, got obliterated, yeah, right, but could move the ball downfield.

That sort of a quarterback bodes well to playing until you get older.

The guys that are running, I actually saw like a something it would uh it was a statistic on on TikTok or something.

It was one of the bigger football podcasts talk, and they're like uh a mobile quarterback only has a nine-year career maximum, and they'll hit their peak at like year five and uh about five or six, and then they go rapidly downhill because the mobility just immediately starts deteriorating.

Yeah, like so and then I think they were talking about Lamar.

It's like Baltimore's not winning a Super Bowl with Lamar.

Statistically, Lamar is done.

Even though he puts up big numbers, the way he plays will lose more football games than it will win at this point.

And I was like, holy shit.

And then they said the same thing about like like Vic and uh what was his name?

Um Culpepper and like quarter, they went historically like down the list of mobile quarterbacks, and I was like, wow, that'd be wild to think about it.

I haven't heard of Culpepper in a while.

Yeah, that's nuts.

But you think about it, and you're like, well, they're just taking a different type of abuse, so it's a it's a curious question when it comes to like Josh Allen.

Like, I don't think Josh Allen will be playing that old.

Dude just like runs the shit out of the ball and gets pummeled, right?

Then you but but he has the arm strength, kind of looks like our boy.

You almost need to be a mobile quarterback that that can pass first.

Almost like I feel like Lamar has transitioned a little bit.

He hasn't played as much, but like look at like when Russell Wilson won a Super Bowl.

Yeah, he's mobile, but he's not he's getting out of the pocket to throw the ball, he's not getting out of the pocket to run the ball.

He he was moving, yeah.

But he won a Super Bowl.

No, hell yeah, but he can't move now.

Like that's a like we when he was with the Steelers, he's trying that like you know, like wheel turn back.

He was moving, he just got caught.

Yeah, so I think when it comes to age, like that's a big factor in it.

I also think like you know, Rivers is a great candidate for an older quarterback to get back into the league.

You know, Rogers is still playing.

If Brady wanted to come back, he could still do it, but like he's not Brady doesn't want to tarnish his legacy by coming back and playing at 80% of what he was.

That's why he retired.

I think Rivers had nothing to lose in his legacy.

Rivers has nothing to lose.

Ben, Ben, he's not coming back.

Ben's like solid.

Ben got his bulls, he's gonna make the Hall of Fame, he's good.

Phil's a tweener, right?

Now, Phillip would have came back, but uh they would have won out, they would have made the Super Bowl, won the Super Bowl.

Rivers' first ballot after that.

First ballot.

That'd be fucking insane.

But I I I I would agree with you there.

All right, well back to retirement for him.

Back to retirement.

Speaking of retirement, um, one of the goats of all sports entertainment retired in December, John.

Do you know who that is?

Without looking at the T.

John Cena retired from the WWE, one of my goats as a child.

I grew up watching John Cena.

You watched wrestling.

I did.

I not not a ton.

No, I loved the WWE when I was younger.

We used to go, they had came to Pittsburgh, we'd go and stuff for like my birthday.

I love John Cena with a passion.

I used to have his action figures and shit.

Nice.

I I did not I did not know that.

I'm I'm uh I'm not a wrestling fan by like any means.

I'm aware of wrestling.

My buddies were really into it.

Big stone cold guy, but not because of the wrestling, mostly because of the beer drinking.

Um I just really respected the volume.

It's like the antithesis of John Cena.

Yeah.

Oh, it was just nuts to see Cena.

I mean, he he's been wrestling for how many years did he wrestle for?

I mean, 2003.

Yeah, over 20, I think.

Yeah.

Um I love seeing the segue in the acting.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm a big fan of He's the only one that successfully made the transition.

The Rock tried and failed, but Cena doesn't fuck hold on.

What the f kind of bullshit are you talking about?

The Rock is one of the best actors.

What do you mean?

Hold on.

All of his recent films.

Show me all the buildings from The Rock.

Show me all of his recent films.

Johnny John is what The Rock wants to be.

Are you kidding me right now?

John Cena is what The Rock wants to be.

Sam, Sam, you are, you're but you're we're l we're getting recorded right now.

100%.

I take John Cena over the rock any day.

Oh my god.

Oh my god.

Dude, I want to take my shirt off.

10.5 billion worldwide.

And fight.

I'm not I'm not talking strictly monetary.

I'm saying like what other accreditation do you need as an actor?

These two don't think they're actors.

You think the best actors earn the most money?

10 million to 10 billion?

Is that what I see on screen?

Show me his hits.

Show me The Rock's recent uh uh hits here.

Pull up his pull up his stuff versus John Cena.

Cena does nothing serious.

You haven't even seen it.

What is the rock?

Moana's coming out, the live action.

Yeah, though, dude.

The Rock just did the smashing.

Uh Red One wasn't too good.

We get that wasn't too good.

That's an understatement.

These are huge machines.

Massive box offer.

Massive earner.

Jumanji.

We got three of those.

Jumanji won.

Jumanji was great.

Pull up Cena.

Yeah.

What do you, what's your hold on.

Let him talk.

I got sorry.

What the explain yourself.

He is huge right now with Peacemaker.

Bro, the Peacemaker is is is almost as bad as all this garbage Disney's putting out.

You're literally I'm telling you, as far as notoriety goes, like I like, I really like John Cena.

It's not knocking him at all.

But the fact you think that he is a bigger star than The Rock is.

Well, here's what the here's the here's the issue I have with The Rock versus John Cena.

You want to know what my issue is?

The Rock he built up his career on the WWE.

He got famous in the WWE, right?

Yeah.

And then he abandoned them to try to like have a little four foray into acting, where John Cena, even though he got these different acting roles, he never abandoned the WWE.

The Rock would come back from time to time.

It's not just me.

That's a well, that's a well-established.

If we can pull anyone in here, it's super into the WWE.

I'm not saying he has to make appearances, but he might have left and did all that, but like say he's the only one that's successful.

Bro, I would say You said Cena's the only successful one bigger than the than Cena.

Nah that was a little far there.

But Guardians of the Galaxy is bigger than everything Cena's done in his actors.

I could give you one right now that you you know you're wrong in saying that.

Cena?

Fast and Furious.

Cena was in Fast and Furious.

Those movies outperform, but so is The Rock.

They're both in those movies.

My bad.

I didn't know Cena was in Fast 10.

Because I haven't seen anything after Fast Five.

There's five more you have to catch up on.

Point being though.

Okay, so I'll give him one one movie.

That's all movie.

Pull up this uh Cena's uh uh IMDB or whatever.

Pull up his films, movies.

He's only been in like four things.

That's why this is uh ridiculous state.

He's in a lot more than you think.

He was in a lot now.

Ricky Stanicki was pretty good.

Yeah, I'm saying he's made like I think right now, all that I'm saying.

Is like I think he's making the transition a lot better.

Not a lot of records.

Suicide Squad was solid.

Yeah, that was the good Suicide Squad.

Peacemaker.

He was in Superman.

SmackDown and WWE all on here for him.

Heads of state.

I never watched that.

I'm curious if it's good.

He was in Superman.

Oh, yeah.

No wonder you're fucking saying this.

I figured it out.

He's in Superman.

For a brief moment.

Bad bias.

He seems like such a genuinely good person.

And I feel like So does The Rock!

I'm not saying it's a good one.

What do you mean?

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Oh, this is this rabbit hole, right?

What do you mean?

I think The Rock, to me, if I had to pick out of either Cena or The Rock, who I could just guess would be a better person as a human, I would probably say Cena.

Yeah.

You ever see a Cena?

You have to watch some Cena interviews.

I have.

He was just on Rogan in December.

I have.

This man turned.

If you make his coffee wrong, he sends it back at a restaurant.

John Cena?

Yeah.

I'm sure the Rock.

Didn't Rock.

If my white, if my white macchiato or whatever he's drinking is improper and it's not enough milk, I send it back.

He's also the same person that accidentally he could speak Mandarin, spoke it wrong over in China at an event, got something completely wrong, and was like, you know what?

I don't know the culture enough.

I'm not speaking that anymore.

Yeah, good for him.

He's a good dude.

I like the dude.

I'm just saying.

He just carries himself so well.

Like, even like his little like closing remark whenever he like retired, where it's like, thank you for letting me serve you.

He's just like, just a very good attitude.

Yeah, and I just don't get it as much.

The rock is the same.

I don't think The Rock's bad.

I'm not saying The Rock is bad by any means, but he's not at that.

Like he does not carry to that.

Is the WWE.

The Rock is The Rock was the Rock is The Rock was the WWE.

You know how big John Cena is?

Wait, wait.

You want to see how big John Cena is?

Joe, just Google John Cena right now and see what happens.

Just Google the Rock.

The Rock is the biggest, one of the biggest stars on the planet.

The planet.

You don't know.

That's why you're talking out of your ass.

I'm not talking out of my ass.

Bro, The Rock's.

Wait, Joe, hit it.

Hit it.

Bottom middle.

Yes.

Never do that for the rock.

Oh, and it disappeared.

That's so sick.

I can't see Google now.

I can't see Google.

I can't even.

What is it going on?

They've never done that for the rock.

You can't see me.

That's his whole slogan.

So now you can't see Google.

What is going on?

Is the internet shut down?

What is going to be?

Call Comcast.

That's so incredible.

I think Cena's fantastic, but I just this there's just he's he's try the John Cena is trying to be the rock.

And I think it's I think it's a blasphemous for you to try and degrade what Dwayne has done.

I'm just saying we can't And say that Cena is bigger or better in any context.

Like John Cena is strive striving to be the rock.

We can't predict the future, but if I were to guess, I would say.

I will bet every dollar I ever make and earn for the rest of my life that whatever's coming out of your mouth next is 100% wrong.

Joe, make sure you record this and keep it somewhere.

The rock is on another play.

And I'm not saying the rock is like bad or anything, but I'm just thinking he's plateauing or slightly going.

Because he's been in a pinnacle for 15 years.

He wanted to be Black Adam so badly.

But here's the problem.

The only thing I'll I'll defend The Rock on here is that he is older.

So I think like the far as The Rock doing movies and stuff, he's done probably way more bigger movies that have done better.

Not probably, it's fact.

They have, but I will say, as far as like wrestling to the the transition to movies go, The Rock.

The Rock definitely is a better actor.

The Rock takes cake.

I think Cena is is great, though.

I love like John Cena is one of the goats of wrestling.

For sure, but but you can't say that he's uh has made a better transition outside of wrestling than The Rock.

That is a ridiculous statement.

I'm just saying he's in some critical some m some movies and shows that are regarded.

Regarded as a critical success.

You can pull him up on Rotten Tomatoes.

Anything I bring up is probably for Superman only had a 7.1 on Rotten Tomatoes.

7.

I thought they'd judge you by percentage.

Whatever it is.

Ah!

I don't believe it.

Look at 7.1 stars.

IMDB.

Bro.

Full of Rotten Tomatoes.

No, IMBD is the look at this.

Come on.

That's 300,000 reviews.

Don't listen to that, Joe.

So because he was in a movie.

Like he's not the lead actor, so I don't know why.

You're like that dude's just he's attached to something that has a small part in.

You would actually actor, but he's a massively successful actor.

I'm not saying The Rock is by any means like a top-tier actor.

I'm just saying he is an incredibly successful actor.

He was have to give credit where credit can be.

I just think he was having his moment more so like years ago.

15 years is not a moment.

That is a lifetime.

It's a legacy.

Okay, well, his lifetime, I feel like, was a lot bigger years ago.

I'm just saying, like, like he wanted to be Black Adam, so but he didn't that be.

Well, because that movie was okay, but what they wanted to do, he desperately wanted to be in a movie with Henry Cavill.

He's like, people are gonna love this.

It's gonna be Black Adam versus Superman.

He was cavel.

He was pissed off when James Gunn took over the DCU.

He was like, But like why are you bringing do you judge like actors just based off their bad performers?

Because if that was the case, we can't talk about Nicolas Cage ever again.

And you love Nicolas Cage, but if we're gonna talk about their good performers, I will defend The Rock, and The Rock has more good movies than John Cena.

Think of every movie he's done with Kevin Hart.

They've probably out-earned, outperformed, hilarious.

They're hilarious.

Hilarious.

No, they're hilarious.

I mean, they're The Rock has some good movies.

I'm not saying it's like all bad.

Bro, name five good movies that John Cena has been the lead actor in.

I'm saying he's entering this right now.

He's fully made.

He hasn't been in five movies.

That's why he can't name it.

Come on now.

You I credit where credit's due.

John Cena, I will 100% agree, is on the rise.

I love the transition from WWE.

I think he's an awesome dude, phenomenal human.

I love his demeanor.

I love his positivity.

I love everything about the guy.

Yeah.

I don't think you're wrong in saying that.

You can't put him on the same tier as the rock.

He's not even close.

I've already done it.

He's there.

He's already there.

I think you have me up until like I'm with you the whole way.

Until you're like, I'm telling he's, you know, here and here and like the rock.

I mean, he he's downward, but Cena, he's on the rise.

I'm just saying.

Pick a category, the rock wins.

That's all I'm saying.

Is the man's just been doing it too long.

He's too successful.

That's what I'm trying to say.

He's been doing it too long.

It might be time to.

You don't you don't jump in and be like Timothy Chalamet had a couple good movies, all of a sudden he's on the same tier as Leo.

But he's not.

This this.

He's like, this is just like how we were talking about Phillip Rivers.

You know, it's like he had his time, it was too much.

Time to let the other guys step in.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, but I also wasn't like Phillip Rivers is still statistically and proven to be one of the best quarterbacks of the last 30 years in football.

I mean, I just saying anybody else is sniffing up his ass except for those who are actually.

They're four years in age of difference here, Sam.

He's nuts.

Five years, 53 to 48.

Don't get me wrong.

He did very well.

He had the Scorpion King or whatever.

Like that was awesome.

What, dude?

You I think you were very don't pull it up.

He's gonna be pull it up.

Should we pull up the earnings of Terramana?

Oh man.

What is this?

Terramana.

His investment is tequila!

Exactly.

He's trying to sell tequila.

John's never do that.

He's gonna try.

He did promoting Alcoholics.

He has a billion dollar tequila brand.

And I could guarantee that whatever celebrity tequila it is, it's probably it's it's like what was who's the one?

Uh was it Kylie Jenner or Kendall?

They have that awful tequila that's like super expensive, but you throw a celebrity name behind it, so it's like a hike up the price.

I don't I don't know.

Talking about like McGregor's uh like uh oh yeah, but proper 12 sucks.

Proper 12 is bad, but Terraman is actually you are trying to dec I mean like I don't see credit his fame, and then his fame built an average tequila company to be a billion-dollar company.

Like that's you're you're literally arguing.

So you think it's good that average tequilas are making more that there's like he made an average tequila better, and then he got it to the masses, and now it actually overshadows categorically your companies and brands that are like multi-billion dollar corporations.

I think you're crossing over too many categories here as if it's a negative thing.

Whenever he's doing all these things very successfully, he's selling tequila, he's in movies, he's wrestling in the WWE, he's doing all of it at a super high clip.

Like he's he he did it.

He bro, he's he's a pfft.

You can't, I mean, but like deny the body of work even with these movies.

Look how long this list is.

I know, but like I obviously recognize like Moana and like he's in some of these like super big blockbusters, but there's nothing here that's like uh like it's we're not putting up like four Fabrio's IMDb here where it's like hit, hit, hit, hit like nothing.

He's in three faster furious.

He's an action movie star, nothing's gonna get critical acclaim.

That's literally it's it's action.

Yeah, so it's outlandish to say that John Cena is completely outlandish because they're in the same category.

Cena's not doing anything that's not action, bro.

You saw Rampage, come on.

Over topic with uh Amy Schumer.

So good you don't even know the name of it.

No, I don't know the name of it.

He's in Taylor Swift, the man.

What?

Come on, man.

You can't listen at the end of the day.

It's a TV show on his whole life, 7.3.

I've seen a lot of sixes and stuff.

You can't okay, regardless, but you can't deny how smart the rock is.

He's still on SmackDown as a running wrestler.

Yeah, he is.

So, like your whole argument about he doesn't go back is argued about it.

He took a hiatus.

Well, he did take up he did take a big hiatus for years.

I don't think he would have came back if his if he would have taken off in Hollywood and it was like movie, movie, movie.

I don't think he's coming back.

I just can't, dude.

It is unbelievable to me you're saying he didn't take off in Hollywood.

The man's driving it.

He's obviously a very popular actor, but I'm bigger than him in Hollywood.

Is it just an actor?

Period.

Name it.

Tom Cruise.

You think?

Because they're both global box office like juggernauts.

This is where you're completely.

He's on the same level as Tom Cruise.

As far as draw goes, yes, he is.

Tom Cruise is an incredi way better actor.

Not saying that.

Red Notice, great movie.

Moana, good movie.

Jimanji, good movie.

The game plan?

Oh yeah.

Come on.

The game plan central intelligence.

Red one.

You keep saying red one like that's the.

They had the Amazon packaging.

Come on, pull that.

It's not bad.

They were butching that movie.

Pay watch, great movie.

Please watch.

Bay Watch, great movie.

All the fast movies.

Super funny.

Amazing movies.

Walking Tall was awesome.

Painting game.

Painting game was good.

Rampage was overrated.

Hercules, he was in the original Hercules.

Painting game was hilarious.

He's in Hercules.

The Mummy, he was in all the mummy movies.

I know.

The mummy movies are what he took off.

He was in the Scorpion King.

Yeah, there's a Mummy movie.

Red Note is too.

Are they coming up with another one?

Sorry, I don't know.

And Cena has none of this on his resume.

So you can't.

Pull his up just on the little Google spread.

You can't fight it.

Do what?

Pull his up on the little Google spread.

You had to completely overshadow what Joe was trying to do is something wholesome in regards to.

You could have just said, I guess we have a difference of opinion, Sam.

No, you're wrong.

This is another thing where you're just completely wrong.

Look at these movies.

Suicide Squad, The Marine.

Oh, that movie was phenomenal.

You should go watch it again tonight.

Now, if we're gonna judge movies that harshly, I can eat it.

The Marine's probably the worst movie between either of them.

You ever watch The Marine?

Yeah, it's not a good movie, but either.

Like half the uh The Rocks, it's in the same level.

12 rounds.

You ever watch 12 rounds?

Daddy Sound, those were good.

Train Wreck, that's what the movie was called.

Train Wreck.

LeBron's in that movie.

What does that tell you about that?

The Barbie movie?

Was he?

Yeah.

Never seen that.

That was phenomenal.

I'm gonna be honest.

He's not a lead in like three quarters of these.

He's in Fred the movie?

He's making the transition.

And he's doing great.

You can't put him on the same tier as the movie.

I just get out of here.

That's the second time I told you I just did.

Very well aware that the The Rock's like top three for me.

Like people, humans.

Really?

Oh, fuck yeah.

I didn't know you actually you love the rock.

Love the rock.

Dude, I will I will fight you.

I've heard some questionable things about The Rock.

Maybe it's wrong.

I've just got questionable things about it.

That's what I mean.

That's what I'm saying.

All of us.

That was why my I made that comment earlier.

I've heard some questionable things about decisions he's made and in off-camera conversation of what's going on.

It connected you to the rock.

I didn't even know.

Do you know anything about the man?

It's crystal clear on why I would be a fan of the rock, but go ahead.

Take a stab at it.

I'm assuming it's the football transition to entertainment.

Is that it?

Yes, it's 100% it.

Okay.

Well, I get I get it now.

It makes sense.

The Rock is a walking is a walking embodiment of possibility in the world.

He literally went, tried, uh, he was a he was a dog at Miami.

He was actually a damn good player.

And then he tried to make his way in the professional football world, got into wrestling, followed the path of his father, right?

And then from that world became the biggest wrestler on the planet of his era.

And then from there went to the next tier, just like my boy Arnie, and just went into being a literal juggernaut of entertainment across the board.

Now an unbelievable entrepreneur and what he's done in that world, you just gotta respect it.

I have no idea.

I have nothing against the rock, but I'm just saying if they were the two of them were in a room, you said, Who would you rather who would you rather see do AC?

I think Dwayne and I are hitting it off.

I actually think me and John might hit it off as well.

I just love John Cr.

That's why I'd pick him up.

I don't not love him.

I mean, I don't I he didn't do for my my age.

Yeah, just age gaps.

I grew up on John Cena.

I'm talking like The Rock is a 9.9 and Cena's a 9.895.

Like they're like up, they're as humans, they're right there.

But career-wise, they're not on the same planet, and that's just math.

That's just math.

I'll give you the yet.

I just you you were.

I mean, that that that's a whole take.

You are I I would love to revisit it in five years to see how how far Cena's come.

Because I will say, I think what he brings to entertainment in regards to his acting is awesome.

He's like this big, like, like lovey looking kind of like goofball and stuff.

I I love that character.

I think it's awesome.

Let's uh let's set a calendar.

This podcast will be around in five years.

Yeah, yeah.

Our episode will be just capable of doing because I'll have no limbs because my body's just falling to pieces.

You'll be the robot around.

I'm still bubbling.

So uh I I think that's a great transition going back and forth, you know, the good and the bad.

Let's talk about it's a new year, it's 2026.

Let's talk about New Year's resolutions.

We see them every year.

We see people making them.

You're buying that gym membership, you're going on that diet, you're starting that thing.

Are New Year's resolutions good or bad?

Go.

I'm not going first because I know exactly what you're gonna say, and I want to fight you.

Go ahead.

I think New Year's resolutions are bad.

I hate New Year's resolutions.

Uh why?

Why?

I I think if you're gonna start something, I guess like the new year.

The only thing I don't hate about it is like new year, new start for some people.

However, if you're gonna quit something, if you're gonna do something, like you need to be able just to do it now and not wait for something.

I granted, I'm sure there's like you know, quitting alcohol or doing some tougher things in life, and you need to go through a process.

What easy things are you trying to quit?

Go to the if you're going to the you want to lose weight, you want to go to the gym, don't wait till the next year.

You're right, but don't wait to the new year.

Why?

Go for a walk now.

What's it matter?

What's happening?

Because if you wait, you're only going to prolong it.

Then you get in your head that it's okay to wait for certain things, so then you start giving yourself excuses.

You start, you know, not committing to what you thought you were going to commit to.

Like you have to embrace the suck, and if you wait for the new year, that's not going to solve anything.

Interesting.

I like a new year's resolution.

I feel like I feel like I feel like the thing is too, even if you don't hold true to like let's say you make this resolution, you go to you're like I'm gonna go to the gym or whatever, and let's say you do it for two and a half months and you quit.

That's not to say, like, that's not to say you aren't gonna pick it up again.

It's an excuse to, I feel like, kind of expose yourself to something that might be better for you.

And regardless of whether you I mean, everyone quits at some point, even if you're doing it for three years, you could technically say, like, well, I stopped going to the gym for a couple months.

I don't know, I kind of like it, because I feel like some people need like an event or like an excuse or something to trick your brain into being like, I'm gonna try to do something better, like I'll do it this day.

Now I think that I don't think if you ask me if I think they're all successful, I don't think they're all successful.

I don't think they're inherently bad though.

Um I I don't like the mediocrity that comes along with it with what Joe was kind of saying.

It's like I agree with you there that a lot of people will just like pause on their opportunity to succeed in today and punt it until the next year.

Like, I don't like that part of a New Year's resolution.

But I do love that there is something that, you know, you gotta you gotta remember recall this one part, Joe, that we can't control, and that is time, and that a year does turn, and for some people, myself included, like you have to do your planning in time segments that you can't control, right?

So a New Year's resolution with good intentions and actually a systemization of what you're trying to accomplish, I think is massively powerful and great.

I don't like the excuse aspect that a lot of people tie to it, which I feel like you're super passionate about.

But we can definitely align there, is that people are like, I'm gonna wait till next year.

But I so I'm not gonna take care of myself today, like 100% agree.

Both that just do it today, start today, right?

But I will also say that like uh the the calendar change, right, for like next year.

If I was to make a business-minded New Year's resolution, well, that business year starts on that calendar, on the fiscal calendar.

Okay, we can't like there's parts of there's certain things that like are bound to the calendar that you can't start now.

For sure.

And like I'm gonna do that.

I think you're thinking too much business mindset here.

I'm thinking like literally all I think with the fuck up.

What else do you want me to think?

I don't know.

Like, are you gonna pick up a hobby or you're gonna Well, so I will so this is the next phase of it too, is like unless you're there's in there's only two aspects of measuring life in regards to time.

It's either the fiscal calendar, which would be like January 1st, or it's gonna be your life calendar, which would be your birthday.

Right?

There's the only two things that you use, like how old are you?

Right?

You use your birthday, right?

Or how long have you been doing this?

Well, I started in this year on this calendar, and then that's how many years I've been doing.

I've been here for two and a half years.

Okay, the calendar dictates that.

So to use a uh resolution that starts on a calendar basis, I don't think is a bad thing, right?

Even if it's for personal gain, you're like, I'm gonna turn a page on this year, I'm gonna close a chapter, and that happens for a lot of people, and then I'm gonna start a new one.

And I'm gonna for the new year to be there, like I'm all for that.

Um one percent better and a step in the right direction is better than zero.

And for a lot of people, they need to close the chapter in order to start a new one.

They're not gonna start a completely new book while they're in the middle of another one.

And I'll give New Year's resolutions a thumb up, thumbs up there.

I'm a hundred percent in agreement with you, Sam.

I'd rather see someone give something a shot for a couple months or something.

I agree with Sam, yeah, yeah.

In first.

And in regards to New Year's resolutions, like, dude, I've made a bunch of them that I haven't held over the years, right?

My health and wellness and all that like constantly.

But you don't know until you try.

So I'm a big fan for like let's take the momentum, like ride the wave if you can, like get some steps going.

I will say success comes from uh systematizing how you tend to approach whatever you're trying to resolve in that resolution, right?

Not just like saying, hey, I'm gonna lose weight in 2026.

Like, no.

Like, let's put a little bit more rigidity to it.

But um, I think they're good.

I'm not, I can't, I can't, I don't know.

I don't want to let that negative mindset creep in.

I don't want to let I don't want to let that bull pull pull back from all those out there that are looking for a reason to start that next chapter, because that's a thing for a lot of people.

Yeah.

Myself included, it's like you you need that thing to end in order to start the new one, and like that's like an easy thing to go to.

I I guess when I say I dislike New Year's resolutions, I'm speaking strictly from my own perspective for myself as far as like I've never had a good experience with New Year's resolutions where if I wait for the new year, my personal life to do something, the chances that it actually gets done to me is like very low, or that it continues.

And so, like, if I'm gonna so if I commit to something, I do want to try to like what does that look like?

Map it out a little bit more than just like I'm gonna go to the gym in the new year.

How many days are you gonna go to the gym?

What's your goal of going to the gym?

Why are you going to the gym?

Yeah, which gym are you going to do?

That's still all good stuff.

Yeah, it's great.

Yeah.

Well, I I think like more or less of taking action to me, taking action on something is better than waiting for it and then doing it.

Yeah.

I think a lot of it has to do with one, you're young, so it's like that's fine.

And so if you've had negative experiences, like time over time, you might have some positive where you try something like this.

Yeah.

You're like, you try a resolution, you're like, actually, that fucking worked, right?

And then then like the balance of in your head, uh, negative versus positive New Year's resolutions might, you know, weigh out to become a little bit more indifferent in the middle over time.

Certain things, yes, certain things no, right?

Um, for me, you know, it's always easy for me to be like, I'm going back on a diet January 1st, and then I do it.

Because I'm like, oh, the holidays and stuff.

I'm gonna eat cookies and be a fat shit and do all the stuff that I like to do that brings me joy in the moment and not long term.

And January 1st, cut off, back at it.

You know, new quarter, new this, new that.

Like all of you you can say business all you want, but like that time, that chapter for me is easy, easy thing to turn the page.

Yeah, I feel like even uh like I said, I feel like even if you do it for a little bit, just that like I feel like kind of fresh start with something.

I feel like it's good, it feels right in like in the new year also.

I don't know.

Like you're catching them, you're you're you're using the momentum of everything else around too to your advantage.

Right?

It's really hard to stop something like whenever and just start the new thing.

Why do today what we could do tomorrow, Joe?

I I think I'm not a fan of that at all.

Like I I go, I guess, okay, to give you more context, uh where I lie in this is like I despise the new year new me thing.

It's the same you in a different year trying to be something else, better than you were today, hopefully.

We're getting way too psychological here.

We don't have to have to go any more in depth.

If you're so let's take it this way can we all agree that it's healthy to reflect?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah.

So let's say that the stage of your reflection is based on the calendar, which exists for all of us, right?

And you're like, I'm reflecting on 2025.

And we sat there and you take a bunch of notes and you're like, who was I?

What things did I accomplish?

What things did I not accomplish, right?

What direction did I go in towards that I wanted to go?

Where did I go that I didn't want to go?

And in that point of reflection, because you're using time as your measurement, it just so happens to be the end of a year, and you're like, I don't want to be that person going into next year, so I'm gonna be a new version of me going into the next year.

You could you can argue against that?

Yeah, I mean, just if you have a problem with where where you are and who you are, just start being a different person.

Yeah.

If you're mean to people, be nice.

If you're correct, struggling to do something, just do it.

I think the longer people wait in life to take just like insane action upon like where they are and what they're doing, I think it just prolongs whatever your goals are.

100% agree.

Yeah, there's no point, you shouldn't be punting becoming a better version of yourself till the new year.

100% agree.

Yeah, but like the I agree with what you're saying on the other end.

There's different, I think it's different categories, I guess we could say.

You can't make blanket statements and then be categorical.

You gotta I'm going off of your comment.

I'm saying, like, based on what you're saying to me, that we can categorize some of these as very different.

Sure, but at the end of the day, the time frame that you're measuring them within is the thing that we are act taking action upon, and that is out of our control.

A year's a year, the end of the year is the end of the year.

Are we going off the Gregorian calendar?

No, I mean, for me, it's like I sprint so much that I don't have time to reflect.

So, regardless of when I do it, even if it just so happens to be that one day that we take off between Christmas and New Year's when I reflect, it's like, well, it's easier for me to just start on the first of the month the next month and yeah, and then like I don't think I'm a piece of because of that.

No, no, just for more preference.

I'm speaking strictly for like me.

I think they're dumb for me.

If you if anyone does them, I don't think it's goofy if you do them.

If it works for you, it works for you.

I just personally don't think it's good for myself.

Let's flip it because a lot more of my life revolves around like what's happening in business.

And let me ask you this question.

If you had an objective for a quarter and you do or do not reach that objective at the end of that quarter, is it better to start the next month or in the middle of the quarter?

What's the objective?

What are you trying to hit?

It doesn't matter.

I mean it could be revenue, it could be efficiencies, it could be KPIs, it could be whatever.

I think that that's a loaded ass question to figure out.

That's my point, though, is that it obviously it's much more complex, right?

But you're gonna continue to try to achieve your existing goals until you reach the time constraint you put upon yourself.

I I guess where we could go to is what comes back to with the new New Year's.

Yeah, no, I guess where I'll just double down on is these are just very different categories of when I hear New Year's resolution and you hear New Year's resolution.

Yes, and I think that's like I don't think of New Year's resolutions in business because I don't own a business.

I work for a business.

So like I I've never had to sit here and say to myself, like, oh, you know, New Year's resolution as a different term for a goal.

Okay, yeah, I could see that.

So like, you know, maybe maybe I'm a muddying the waters by thinking that way, but I think you just think very business focused.

When I'm what I meant it when I was saying is just like that.

Like, I don't think people need more negativity put on how they're trying to I know so many people that struggle with weight and mental health and like problems along those ways.

If you want to try a New Year's resolution, I'm all for it.

Try it for you.

Try it.

I but I think there's something else to like telling people just to get after it.

Like you don't have to wait to start.

Like you can't know if anyone says to get after it more now.

But you say you're saying it's negative.

I don't think it's negative, I think it's just a different motivational aspect.

No, no, no, it's not negative at all.

It's not negative at all.

I just I'm not gonna knock the uh the resolution.

I think more so your point, you're basically just saying that like you know, you shouldn't have to set like a a uh uh specified time on when you do these.

It's not like you're it you're not, I think you both are agreeing.

I think we're just in different categories though.

Like like with yeah, 100% right with the business side of it.

I'll I'll be very interested in 10 years to have the same conversation because I do uh looking back on like when I was your age, I felt the exact same way.

It's like you could take action now, you can do it now.

Why would you wait till New Year's?

Blah blah blah.

And then like I'm looking at where I'm at now.

I can't take action on all I can do is do the things that I already said I was gonna do, and then if I want to make changes, it's a massive amount of effort and difference in my like life and lifestyle, and there's just a lot more moving parts in my life as you get older.

Um, so it so it's it's interesting, and I love hearing that because I think it's what makes you great as a human, is you're like you'll go attack something when the opportunity's there and you're not gonna sit around and wait.

That's a great part of your personality and anyone who has that personality.

But I do agree with like what Sam said though about like I don't think it's a bad thing if you're gonna go to the gym in the new year, you do it for a couple months, and it's not for you.

There's I'm a firm believer in like different things for different people.

Because you don't have to wait.

Yeah, yes.

That is the best to cap it all.

It's like, yes, I agree with you, Joe.

You don't have to wait, and that's why you don't like it.

Yeah.

You see a lot more people who wait when they don't need to.

Yeah, a hundred percent.

Yeah, yeah.

So you don't need to wait.

You can eat those chips in that microphone and make it a living hell on our editor.

I sniff two chips.

I don't know.

Hey, hey, when they're at Joe and posts and they're like, why are you chomping on them chips?

Well, say because they were tasty.

They are tasty.

I don't want one, like I want to keep looking at that.

So wrapping up the New Year's talks, I think this would be funny to look back in a year and see what happened.

But if you had to make one prediction for the year of 2026, 2025's been a load of year.

We've had a lot of crazy national events, crazy things happen.

I mean, what's one thing you think will happen in 2026?

It's a deep one, so take a second, we can edit it out.

It's easy.

It's easy.

Right.

Just like in general.

One bold ass prediction.

It could be no I need the bumpers, dude.

Can't go blue ocean.

Okay.

Well, I'm blue ocean in you.

It could be sports, it could be tech, it could be social media.

What's the next crazy influencer you think is gonna pop off?

What do you think the next big tech invention is gonna be?

Is it AI?

Like, are they gonna be editing our videos for us?

Like, what is it?

Like, what's 2026 hold for the world?

Right back into the ocean.

That's such a massive question.

I got it.

You'll go ahead, Pola.

I think that this year.

Stop touching the mic.

That cord, yeah, you don't want to.

I think this year in February, we are gonna see the Pittsburgh Steelers return to the Super Bowl.

Okay, let's clinch a win.

Here's a problem against the Chicago Bears.

I'm predicting it right now.

Redo that because there is a chance at this very moment the Steelers still miss the playoffs.

And when this releases, they could not have made the playoffs.

So you saying that would be like, why the fuck would you say that?

They're not made the playoffs.

I'll give you one.

I think uh the way AI has moved in 2025, I think AI is gonna take another jump in 2026.

And the stuff that we thought was kind of terrifying in where AI was going to with a lot of like you see those clips out there, like, and you wonder, is it real?

I think that's only going to get significantly worse in 2026.

I think like you're really going to have to like monitor like is this a real clip?

Is this a real video?

Like, did someone shoot this?

Did they not?

I'm curious if like stuff starts getting tagged more for AI and taken down and how that looks monetization-wise, but like I think AI is gonna take a huge jump in 26 and be a little bit terrifying for some people.

I I certainly hope that's not true.

I mean, I think that's already the case in a lot of contexts.

So it's like a I think it's pretty general.

There's a lot of slop out there, though.

I think the slop gets cleaned up and it starts getting worse.

I'll name a Terminator.

I'll name a selfish prediction.

I I don't think uh I I I honestly don't really know if it's gonna happen, but I hope it happens.

There's all this uh this talk of them like repealing like different like fuel standards.

I think there's a chance we might get some cool like mid-size pickups in the US that were only offered in Europe or Japan.

You want that$14,000 Toyota?

Yeah, I want the I want them to bring the high lux over here.

Yeah, I would so I I predict that'll happen.

It seems like there's like a feverish desire for these smaller trucks.

It's totally not just my algorithm serving me all this stuff.

Every everyone wants one.

Uh so yeah, I'm predicting mid-sized pickups are making a big return 2026.

Um I'll go back to sports.

I I think uh I think there'll be some like actual legislation in regards to like the NIL thing.

Oh yeah.

That'll be there'll be a big move and a big swing.

Um you know, coming into like the college football playoff, all the chaos that was happening there, this bull with the transfer portal and like all the the players and the way they act now and what they do and blah blah blah.

I think there's gonna be I think there's gonna be a little bit more of a crackdown.

I think the wild west of the NIL will be ending in the in the in the crux of it will begin in 2026.

Um as far as AI goes, uh the speed of which AI is like evolving is is is insane.

Um I think the adaptation of it into normal lives will become like I'm not gonna go doomsday like Skynet, but I will say like the ease of adaptation into your normal everyday life, regardless if you're like tech savvy or not, I think we'll have some big strides um within the year.

Yeah.

I'm talking like boomers learning how to use it and actually use it correctly.

Um like like I think there'll be a moment where my parents like actually understand how what like GPT actually could be.

Um this is a side note, I don't mean to cut you off.

My mom just asked me to teach her chat GPT the other day.

Yeah.

I was like, what?

I mean because uh yeah, I still think right now there's a lot of nuance to actually using it appropriately.

Yeah.

Um, but I also think that trickles up to uh you're gonna see I actually think we'll see in the next either 12 to 24 months legisl legislation passed in regards to education and the use of AI um as either a requirement or like a curriculum, whatever that might look like.

Um I think there's a big gap in that world from the AI side of things.

Um so yeah, I I'm I'm not a I don't really give a sh about other people when it comes to like that type of thing.

Um I'm much more like control what I can control and like put into practice what I'm trying to do.

Um so thanks for taking me down that mental rabbit hole.

It's not that big of a deal.

How is that depressing?

Um it's just really hard to find positive in when you start talking about stuff like that, you know?

Because usually it's like it's negative.

Well, we don't know like the good that's coming from it because you don't see we won't see it for a long time.

I bet I know how I'll be using AI in 2026, though.

But the way I think of it is tell me if I'm wrong.

I know it's completely different, but we probably feel the same way in our lifetime now, at least I do, that you did whenever the internet first came out.

Like you're like, oh, I I don't know what this is.

It could be good, it could be bad, it's probably crazy.

Why can't they happen?

You know what I think the difference is?

Because I was I was like born in uh 96, so like I feel like I was alive during like the not the advent of the internet, but close to it.

I feel like the internet yeah, the progression of the internet, at least in my time, has been a lot more gradual than AI.

Like AI is I feel like developing and evolving at like light speed.

It's so hard for me to compare it to the internet because I could literally go back and be like, oh, five years ago we couldn't do this, then ten years ago we couldn't do this.

But like AI, it's like a month, a month goes by and like so much has changed.

You're not wrong at all.

It's so quick.

It's so fast, yeah.

But that's why it's like hard to see the positive.

Like, obviously, you can pull positives out, but I'm just it's uh it's scary.

The speed of it's scary.

Yeah.

So now they're all sad.

What do you got next?

It's gonna be I know it's coming next.

It's like this deep AI conversation that it's like name.

All right, today we're playing another viral game.

Can you name X items better than X?

Um No, we're playing a game like last week.

Can you name uh X amount of cookies better than a sugar cookie?

It's the holidays, everyone's grandmother makes cookies, everyone's mother makes cookies, people are making cookies, and I think you're overestimating how many cookie names I know.

I could pull up a list of cookies here.

Oh yeah, a list would be great.

I feel like this is almost like this is easy, man.

I feel like sugar cookies are like the base cookie.

Yeah, I mean, yeah.

I feel like you didn't, yeah.

I feel like every cookie is better than a sugar cookie.

Like I asked you if you wonder Girl Scout cookies.

Come on, I can help.

What cookie is like the the best known cookie, would you say then?

Chocolate chip.

Okay.

How many cookies can you name better than a chocolate chip cookie?

That that's I don't need a ton of cookies.

I eat like why do you know all the names then?

I know so many cookies.

Because I'm fat.

It doesn't mean I don't know them.

Why are you memorize the cookies?

I don't have cookies top of mind.

Uh I mean I two?

How many can you name better than chocolate chip?

I still don't think he understands this game.

No, I do.

I just it's top chocolate chip's like right up there for me.

Maybe one on a case.

You have to go higher than nine.

No, I can't name more than nah, I can't then.

I can name four.

Um see you're going on your personal preference, I'm assuming.

Personal preference?

Also, like the holidays, like Dude, I don't even know if I can name four cookies.

You just said you knew the list.

Is there a different item you guys would like to rank like this?

It isn't holiday cookies?

What about holiday songs?

I don't have enough of them off the top of my head.

What's uh what's a popular holiday drink?

Holiday drinks?

Wanna rank like eggnog?

You guys like eggnog?

I'm not gonna name a million drinks better than eggnog.

Um name a better AI than ChatGPT.

You can do oh better actors than John Cena.

How many actors can you name better than John Cena?

He's not a good actor.

Yeah, I could actually do that too.

I was defending him, but I'm not gonna sit here and say he's gonna be able to do it.

Which one?

If it's personal preference, I could name probably like 20 beer better than Guinness.

Yeah, you're too young to appreciate a Guinness.

That's what I mean.

I don't drink Guinness.

Uh to me.

Guinness is like a smooth beer.

I was Budweiser, they had a nitro for just a hand like a handful of months a few years ago.

Wish they'd bring it back.

Um now you got me thinking on the fly.

Maybe we skipped.

The fact that Sam had none better than a sugar cookie made the made the conversation.

No, no, we switched to chocolate chip.

That was what I was like, chocolate chip.

Sugar cookie, I could go all day.

Maybe we just go to the is it normal?

Because that's kind of like the same.

Oh no, it's not.

So the way this game's usually played is like I could name how about this?

The holidays are over, okay?

Holidays.

The holidays are over.

We're at the back end of it.

You guys are young, you don't have any children.

I have too many.

Um, and there's categories of toys that I think have withstood the test of time.

Okay.

And now that we're all putting them away, why don't we do Lego?

As a toy.

Yeah.

How many better toys can you name than Lego?

Because Lego is elite.

Like the point of this game is for whatever you're saying, it's supposed to be so close to the top that you can't name anything better.

Okay.

I can name one.

I'm and Lego might be my top, so this is gonna be a tough one for me.

I think I could do three.

Three?

I think I can do three.

I could do I could do five.

I'm still at one.

I don't know if I could do five.

It can't be five.

I I g I think three is my max.

So what are your three?

Since Joe's got five.

The only one I would throw out there would be Nerf.

Maybe.

Nerf was gonna be one of them.

I was gonna say Nerf.

I feel like this is an older one, or is one when I was younger, so it's like whatever.

I I think Plato.

Plato's kind of like Bro, Play Doh's fucking literal poop.

Oh, come on.

It smells great.

I was a little bit more.

I was yelling about Lego yesterday.

I was like, I I legitimately asked my wife to never bring Lego in the house, and people just keep bringing it in the house.

Or excuse me, uh Play-Doh.

I hate Play-Doh.

I absolutely hate Play-Doh.

I it was a point of contention when I was a kid.

I was notorious for getting that stuck in the carpet.

Back in the day, too.

I feel like it was way more like toxic and terrible than that.

Yeah, definitely.

Alright, so you had five.

Wait, so you got Play-Doh and Nerf.

Play-doh, Nerf.

Uh, if I had to do one more.

Oh, you know what my favorite toys a kid was?

I don't even think they're around anymore.

No, uh, like the Power Rangers, the Megazords.

That was a top-tier toy as a kid because you got five individual toys, and then you could put it together.

So like Transformers.

Yeah, Transformers, Power Rangers, yeah, action, just action figures, whatever that is.

Action figures, I'll get that's that's a solid category.

Sorry, so you have five?

Let me get through these before you start critiquing them.

Oh gosh.

I got Nerf guns.

Okay.

Lincoln logs?

No.

I got RC, like Hot Wheels, puzzles, librarian, puzzles, and a yo-yo.

What decade were you born in?

I used to take my yo-yo up and down the street.

I used to walk the dog.

What do you mean?

This man dared walk into today and try and try and argue that a Lincoln log is better than a Lego?

Lincoln logs were elite.

You could how many fucking cabin are you gonna build, bro?

Peak creativity, Lincoln logs.

I even have to argue against them.

If I want to build a one-bedroom cabin, I want to build a two-bedroom cabin.

And then you never have enough pieces, so you have to knock it over and resize it.

Legos, that's so tedious.

I want what you can make though.

You can't even make that in real life.

I could build a cabin in real life if I wanted to that I built with Lincoln Logs.

Bro, the whole way off with that statement.

You can what?

Wait, wait, Lincoln Log is like a is is is a is a pimple on the ass of Lego.

That is incredible.

Lincoln logs were incredible.

You defend the yo-yo.

Defend the yo-yo.

Yo-yos were you don't have to do it with somebody else.

You could just crank a yo-yo by yourself for a couple hours.

Yeah, but Legos, like, you have to have multiple Legos.

You only have to have one yo-yo.

You know what I mean?

You're you're bouncing the yo-yo for hours.

For hours?

Hours.

It's terrifying.

And then what was the other one?

Puzzles?

An elite puzzle, man.

That'll get you going for hours.

Good stimulation for the brain.

I mean, you're a lot of science back with puzzles.

Exactly.

Imagine.

You could get cut.

How is that better than a 3D puzzle?

I can't get behind any of these.

These are despicable.

You didn't like Hot Wheels?

Hot Wheels is up there.

I can give you that.

Hot Wheels is up there.

We're talking about functionality of Lincoln logs.

That looks cool.

So use that puzzle and you know.

I'm gonna be honest.

I was just reading up this this list GPT generated for me.

That's why I hate Jad GPT games.

Trust that.

No, you can't.

I really don't think half of those are the action figures, and I think RC cars is solid.

I don't think Lincoln logs were there.

I just kind of committed to it.

I saw it and I was like, I know that you shot off.

I bet his mother's just.

Oh no, I didn't have Lincoln logs.

I had Django, though.

I mean, that's not a it's a game.

That's a good one.

They're better than not the same thing.

Did you play with an erector set as a kid, Pula?

That's a personal question.

Um, that's another these are old ass toys.

I don't think they made erector sets.

They did.

I oh Kinex, I did play.

Remember Bionicles?

I think uh are Bionicles and Kinex the same or no Bionicles are owned by LEGO.

Uh, you know, it's a banger, Toy Soldiers.

Yeah.

You just have these little stationary guys.

You were born in like 1955.

He like he's like playing record.

We're talking modern games like a slime kit.

No.

Remember Nickelodeon Slime?

That stuff was cool.

Um I gotta end this because you're just got you're just name, you're just listening off random.

We wait, wait, we have our last segment.

If you guys are listening at home and you've got anything that you think is better than Lego, we'd love to hear it.

Um, don't throw some bullshit at me that like connects or or or connects stecks or whatever crap's out there.

Lego, get get that out of here.

But if you think you know something more elite than Lego and you can name it, love to see it in the comments.

What do you got?

Uh we're gonna wrap up with Is It Normal?

Oh, my favorite segment, Is It Normal, where Sam and I sit here and debate over if these are actual human behaviors.

And I will say, based on last week's episode, when I uh fought tooth and nail to say that it was normal for a man to sit on the toilet for a considerably longer period of time than one would conceive.

I was adamantly emotionally and verbally abused for taking advantage of that in the last week since saying it.

Um so yes, I still stand by it.

It is normal.

Alright, first one.

This is on the back end of the holidays.

Christmas was a couple weeks ago, or last week, I guess.

Is it normal to buy gifts last minute?

Yeah, it's normal.

I mean, do I agree with it?

No.

Here's a hack for you guys.

Every one of us has a cell phone now.

If you're sitting with someone and they say they want something, write it down on your phone on a list that you don't need to look at until the holidays.

Then you don't have to think about buying gifts at last minute.

What happens though?

If they have their mom buy it for them, then you get it last minute.

What happens?

I know you're 100% last minute.

Not only do I think it's normal, I I think you get some of the best gifts that way.

My dad and I used to have this tradition.

Every Christmas Eve, we'd go out and do our shopping for your poor mother deserved better.

Oh, it was great.

I'll tell you what, Norman, he was a last-minute Christmas gift.

Oh, yeah.

I was I needed to find a cat before Christmas, and I looked everywhere, and everywhere was like obviously sold out because it was like several days before Christmas.

So I went on.

Did you gift cats for Christmas?

I did.

And I had to go on Craigslist.

I found this random person.

They had sent a photo.

We maybe exchanged two messages, and uh, she was like, I'll hold it.

If you pay if you send me money through PayPal, I was like, here's six hundred dollars through PayPal, don't let that cat go anywhere.

Drove up to their house.

There was a sign out front that said, We don't call 911 with like a like a silhouette of a gun.

Went in there, best cats in the world, took Norman home, call it a day.

Worked out well.

How much did you pay for this cat?

Uh, I can't tell you how much I that wasn't the full amount.

That was that was like a down payment, so I they could hold him.

He's an exotic short hair.

An exotic short hair, that's why it's a it's a sought after breed.

Bro, I didn't know you got cats anywhere except for shoeboxes.

No, my guy, that guy's a nice guy.

I got a half Persian, half Himalayan, an exotic short hair, and the world's biggest calico.

Is it normal to listen to the same five songs on repeat for weeks?

Yes.

Years.

I think that's pretty normal.

Is it normal to put off taking your Christmas decorations down until February?

Yes.

It's normal, but I don't agree with it.

I could get behind that one.

I don't get the pick.

Is it normal to Google everything that you hear to verify something?

No.

Um like we're always bullshitting in the shop, pull something out and Google it.

I'm I think I'm of the generation where Google is like the secondary element.

Like you're gonna go with your own knowledge bases first.

Um so I would say no, it's not normal to Google it before you start an argument.

You probably should.

But I'm saying it's normal.

There's nothing worse than also being in the like I miss arguments before I never get to experience that.

I wasn't alive before the internet, but I imagine an argument before the internet, both people would make their point.

One person could be lying, one person could be telling the truth, no one would know.

They'd argue and be done.

Imagine parenting pre-internet.

You could just say whatever the fuck you want to your kids.

They have no idea how to validate anything that you're so it's like it's like me.

Like, I still believe things my dad told me as a kid that just had no merit whatsoever.

They were 100% his opinion.

That's great.

And I'm like, look at him now and I'm like, damn it, why do I dislike dodge so much?

It's like, oh, because I had cans in the doors, and that's what my dad used to tell me.

I was like, well I ran, I ran those off for life than my dad.

I know.

My my uncle, my uncle Joey, he's friends with uh Danny Raines.

He played for the 85 Bears, and he'll let him borrow a Super Bowl ring from time to time.

He used to go around to bars and be like, I'm Danny Raines.

I played with the 85 Bears.

That's where you get it.

Oh, it's great, but now you can't do that because you can pull out your phone and be like, No, you're not.

I got it right here.

Sam's just telling people that he played for the Cincinnati Bengals in my personal life, and uh my daughters now think he he did.

I said that's how we met.

On the gridiron.

Yep, yep, yep.

Very Googlable, very Googlable.

Yeah.

Is it normal to keep random cables forever just in case you ever need them?

Unfortunately, yes.

Yeah, unfortunately.

I got a basket full of them.

I got me too.

I got drawers full of just cables.

Just of random cables over the years.

You just hoard them.

Different lengths, sizes.

Now you need like certain speeds and stuff.

And I was just, I didn't even ask Sarah, I just said, I know this cable is readily available somewhere else.

Goodbye.

Is it normal to say we'll see when you mean no in a response to someone asking you a question?

Like you don't have the like you don't want to say no right there, so you're like, we'll see, instead of just saying, like, yeah, no.

I feel like this is strictly a dad question.

I can't think of any moment in my life where I'm able to do that.

Like, Sam, is this gonna be done?

Is this project gonna be done by Friday?

Like, we'll see.

I I I mean, I put your your bump out you just built, your fireplace?

Like, yeah, but like in top.

That's a good example.

If Kristen's like, is this bump out gonna be done before Thanksgiving?

The last thing I would ever say is, we'll see.

People do it though, is the thing.

Oh, I guess I don't think it's normal.

I think it's normal to say that to your kids if you had kids.

Yeah, you you would go.

Yeah, I gotta corroborate.

It's probably the kids saying.

I'm telling you no straight up.

Tell my kids no straight up, too.

Like, I don't I'll beat around the bush.

I ain't got time for that.

All right.

Last one.

Is it normal to always pick the same seat in ever in a room you consistently go into?

Yes.

Like in college, you have a class, you go to that same exact seat every single time you go into that classroom.

Is that normal?

Not only is it normal, there's studies out there that prove that like if you if you're learning in a certain seat, like let's say you're sitting in a classroom and you're in that seat taking in all the information, if you take that test in the seat, you're more likely to retain more of the information than if you move to another point in the room.

That's interesting.

Yeah, actions and habits are based around the systems that you build to put yourself in an easy uh predicament to like accomplish them.

So there's actually a lot of science behind like uh being in a similar seated environment.

Like, say for instance, you're like, I want to start journaling.

Well, if you go into a room that you normally don't journal in, your immediate reaction is going to be, I've never done this in here before.

It's a massive lift, you know, I gotta do all these new things.

I'm used to watching TV in here, I'm used to talking to my wife or being on the phone or whatever that might be.

But if you put a new chair in that room and then establish the new habit, uh it's way more powerful, right?

So, like I'm I mean, I'll sit down in the same chair and have my coffee or the same chair and watch TV or same chair and work um at my house.

I don't remember college, so uh I can't give you that one.

It wasn't as fresh for me as it is for you.

Um but I think it's normal.

I think it's very normal.

I think it's actually very healthy too.

You guys didn't have like your dad's chair, like a dad's seat.

We did.

People sat in it still, but like not when he was home.

My father-in-law still has both of his houses, the chair that you don't sit in because it's his.

Yeah, if he's not home, I'll sit in it, but if he's home, I don't sit in it.

Like that kind of a thing.

I feel like some people will like not sit in a seat if it's their dad's seat, or just in like my dad, if you know, my brother won't sit in his seat even if he's not there.

Yeah, and you'll do it because you're like the little.

Well, he has a better view to the TV.

I'm gonna go sit in that seat.

It's more clear.

You're not wrong.

I remember my my dad, my dad always just sat on the couch.

My mom had a chair.

He would uh he'd uh refer to it as the command chair.

Yeah, she's in the command chair again, just barking out orders.

Well that being said, I think that's a wrap on this one.

I'm still all heated and bothered by Sam's ridiculous John Cena in the raw comments here.

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