[SPEAKER_00]: Hey guys guys guys here coming up on the show today a debate should you pay ten cents on the Brock Party Dollar and if you did could you get 90% or 80% of their productions what's going on the difference between Mac Jones and Brock Party both successful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, something just for the podcast people before we get to the conversation about Mac Jones and this pod, I rattled through some other things too that are not just Mac Jones related, was out at Niners availability today, one in the locker room.

[SPEAKER_00]: 49ers got on the field and as you probably know by now Brock Perti is limited, listed as limited, which is better than he was last week, in practice through the football round.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I didn't think looked the most athletic version of himself doing some dropbacks, but feeling his way out, limited means not, you know, not participating in team portions of practice and I think, you know, I think, [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, I would have to lean, you know, I'm recording this Wednesday, then it's Thursday.

[SPEAKER_00]: And who knows, things can change and he can get cleared.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it certainly feels like it's not obvious that he should be back.

[SPEAKER_00]: And given that you're two and a no, [SPEAKER_00]: And your plan in Arizona team very much in the same boat, you know, the Niners, this division has only lost one game so far this year and it's Seattle's loss to the 49ers.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now it doesn't mean that it's a great division, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you ask for the Skater Report on Arizona, [SPEAKER_00]: One thing that would be similar is that, you know, they've beaten two teams, Carolina and New Orleans that are not going to the playoffs and, you know, the Niners beaten New Orleans, they're not going to the playoffs, they beat the Seahawks, I don't think, that they're going to the playoffs, a lot still to be determined, it seems like things with the Niners, you know, a lot of the concern comes from injuries, with the Cardinals, [SPEAKER_00]: They're having trouble figuring it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's early, but James, I talk about it in this video, but they're not running the ball effectively.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're not getting Marvin Harris and Targeted.

[SPEAKER_00]: That could all change because in Fred Warner said it today in the Niners Lock Room, no matter how the game is going, Kyler Murray can turn a game around very quickly.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you got to be aware of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that you're too an old, [SPEAKER_00]: and you're playing not a powerhouse team, but certainly a team that could beat you.

[SPEAKER_00]: You could've lost either or both of the first two games, certainly the first one.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the advantage, there are a lot of things, I think the Brock does, and I'll get into it here, coming up.

[SPEAKER_00]: But one thing I don't say in the portion coming up is one of Brock's advantages over Mack, and over a lot of quarterbacks, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: He was fourth in the league in first-down scramble's last year, is his ability to move.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so if that's compromised, if Brock Perti is not as athletic, if he's not as fluid mover, if he's not as quick, if he's not as trusting, then he becomes less effective.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the gap between him and what Mac Jones can give you gets smaller.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it becomes less of an incentive to play Perti.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I would not rush him back, just as a general rule, it helps that you're 2-0, it helps [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think Mac Jones could be better this week than he was last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: The kernels could be without both of their starting corners, we'll see, but that's the way it's trending.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I would, I'm not saying I wouldn't play Brock because I don't have all the medical information, but I would not push it with him and I don't take it.

[SPEAKER_00]: the fact that he was on the field of Wednesday as a sign that he's going to play.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's many won't or can't or isn't, you know, but that's just, that's how I see it at this point.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that, so there's that.

[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing I want to mention unrelated to that is the Tush push, which a lot of you know, my stance on it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's got to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hate saying that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I do actually hate saying that because [SPEAKER_00]: you're eliminating something only because somebody's so good at it, partly, and I hate that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that somebody within the rules got really good at something, and they're so good at it, so unstoppable at it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like 98% conversion rate at it that it's got to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I have a couple of problems with it.

[SPEAKER_00]: One is boring.

[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of things are boring, and we don't eliminate them from the game right away, but the fact that it has become an unfortunately for Philly a non-competitive play, like if they converted it 65% of the time, we wouldn't be talking about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I definitely recognize the irony there, or it feels unfair.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is unfair, in a way.

[SPEAKER_00]: I also think it's got difficult to officiate if you saw the images circulating from an aerial straight-down view where it looks like all the offensive linemen, particularly the center, is lined up past the football, you know, because they were able to crouch so low before the snap and get such good leverage to burrow themselves that they're up or by like their shoulders, their head goes past the football.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's very difficult for the officials to see in there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so that becomes a play that is tough to appreciate.

[SPEAKER_00]: That if that's the case, and I can't say that I've seen a definitive view of it, but that should be officiated and that should be off sides.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the problem is how do you eliminate it?

[SPEAKER_00]: If you eliminate the Tush push, [SPEAKER_00]: you're just eliminating the push because you're not, what else are they doing within the rules that you can eliminate, but not also affect other things like a quarterback sneak.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you know, what are you going to say?

[SPEAKER_00]: They can't all line up together, shoulder the shoulder.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can't have that many guys on the line attached to one another.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because now you're going to just eliminate jumbo formations.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's hard because it's one of those.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I know it when I see it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, that's where everybody who defends it, puts their arms up and go, I don't know what you're talking about, looks like a regular player to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: The thing about this argument too is, there are so many legitimate points to defend it.

[SPEAKER_00]: One being, you tell me you're really gonna eliminate a rule just because we're good at it.

[SPEAKER_00]: But this argument also gets a little disingenuous on both sides.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm trying to keep it as emotionless as possible.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this could already be out of the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you've listened, going back to the last year, then you know, there's a very simple way.

[SPEAKER_00]: It could have happened last year in the playoffs.

[SPEAKER_00]: The Washington Commanders jumped over the center.

[SPEAKER_00]: Almost hit the quarterback.

[SPEAKER_00]: Might have tried to do it a second time.

[SPEAKER_00]: the official, I think it was, and I think it was Sean Hawkely.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gets on the microphone and says, you know, if Washington, they keep getting these half the distance to the goal penalties, and they say, hey, if Washington doesn't stop, they've been warned that we as officials [SPEAKER_00]: can't award a touchdown if Washington defensively is basically using an unfair tactic by constantly jumping over the line eventually will stop awarding half the distance to the goal and we'll just award a touchdown and I felt this way immediately in the moment keep doing it Washington if Washington had kept doing it in a playoff game and the officials were forced right they would have been and it within their right I wouldn't [SPEAKER_00]: when the Eagles actually didn't score a touchdown, even though we all know they would have scored a touchdown.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would have ended the play right there because it would have just been such a tough pill for everybody to swallow.

[SPEAKER_00]: Once we've gotten to the point, we're just awarding touchdowns because the defense is giving up and saying our only chance of stopping this play is jumping off sides.

[SPEAKER_00]: Which by the way, like legitimate effort by Washington, they were just trying to time up the snap.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so they were jumping and jumping and jumping and you know, never timing it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: The play would be gone by now.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, if defenses wanted out, the best way for them to do, the best thing to do is to keep, especially when they get to the goal line, is to keep committing that penalty.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then it'll be cleared everybody.

[SPEAKER_00]: Once we reach that point, the play's gotta go.

[SPEAKER_00]: Look, you eliminate the push from behind.

[SPEAKER_00]: Jalen hurts and the Eagles are still gonna be better at this play than a lot of people.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you take it down from 98% to 80% at all, you know, you have removed all drama from that play.

[SPEAKER_00]: And short yardage, 4,000s, goal lines.

[SPEAKER_00]: These are the most dramatic, some of the most dramatic plays in the sport.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it feels unfair to filly.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it is bad for the games.

[SPEAKER_00]: for everybody, but he goes, fans, all right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to the topic at hand.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was a key that Nick Wright is missing when he says this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, sometimes I bring up a Nick Wright quote, it happens from time to time and someone goes, how dare you bring it up?

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a good argument, but I think he's half right here, but then ultimately wrong.

[SPEAKER_00]: He says, I think it's almost as if there's a lot of Cubes, you can drop it a Kyle's Channing and System and with enough help, they can look really good.

[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that part.

[SPEAKER_00]: Part two, it's why I would have maybe waited to pay Brock Perty because I think you can maybe get this lovely production from a guy like Mac Jones to maybe he's in there, tell you what he's missing is the ceiling versus the floor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Chanting in system is great.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's what would make me afraid of hiring a non offensive head coach, like Dan Campbell, who loses his OC, or maybe even Robert Salus, [SPEAKER_00]: clearly excellent, but if his offense is good, he's going to lose his offensive coordinator to become a head coach, shaming hands system and shaming hands specifically, raise the quarterback floor.

[SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't change ceilings between players.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think Brock pretty ceiling is higher in the match zones.

[SPEAKER_00]: The beauty of a system, and as, you know, I'm getting busier doing college football this year, have it a baby at the end of the year, feeling it in for Greg Poppa on 49ers often.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've been studying successful organizations and people asking people.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the common thread is systems.

[SPEAKER_00]: People who are efficient or successful have organizational systems.

[SPEAKER_00]: It helps you be efficient.

[SPEAKER_00]: It helps you if a quarterback it's hurt, you plug it in another quarterback.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to get all the production.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to get some.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so even though this is a predictable discussion after Mac Jones has a good game, and Mac Jones did have a very good game, a good game for him, a good game for a Kyle quarterback, and just a good game for a backup quarterback playing in spot duty, all of those things that maybe they'll need another one this week.

[SPEAKER_00]: All those things are true, but it doesn't change the fact that the ceiling is still different, or at least my opinion, that the ceiling is still different.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's where, you know, this argument like Sam Darnell's an example, we've been through this a little bit with Brock, [SPEAKER_00]: There are obvious differences between Brock Perti and Sam Darnl.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the obvious differences are the ones in Darnl's favor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Bigger arm, bigger body.

[SPEAKER_00]: The subtle differences are the ones in Brock's favor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little bit better under pressure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Long-term can handle the ups and downs.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can handle like, what I say, pressure, I mean, external pressure, and also defensive pressure.

[SPEAKER_00]: So two different types of pressures.

[SPEAKER_00]: His mobility, even though Donald is mobile, maybe Brock's is a little more effective.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think ultimately, time will show that Brock is the better quarterback.

[SPEAKER_00]: Although Sam can also win you a bunch of games, [SPEAKER_00]: under Kyle Shanahan, but he's not going to be as good.

[SPEAKER_00]: His ceiling is not there in the way that Brock's potential is.

[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing that Nick writes, argument ignores is, it's just the market reality, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: When you, you, if you wait to pay a proven performer like Brock Perti, whatever you think he's proven, we could debate how proven he is, but he's proven something and hopes of finding a cheaper alternative, you can lower your ceiling [SPEAKER_00]: So one of these things that Nick Wright said can be true, and the other thing can be wrong.

[SPEAKER_00]: Shanna Hand System makes quarterbacks look really good and also over time, Mac Jones isn't.

[SPEAKER_00]: As good as Brock Party, but is good enough to win a bunch of games.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think the difference in like a 20th rank quarterback at a 13th rank quarterback is big in money.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's probably hard to identify over the course of a game or two or three, but that little difference is the thing that you really pay for.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I thought I mentioned this last time, so I'm not going to go through it too much here, but [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think there's probably little difference in mentality between Brock and Mack, given what Mack has been through.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's trying to overcome some of the scars.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he said it the other day, I'm not guessing anything that he hasn't said.

[SPEAKER_00]: He said, Mick Lombardi, the quarterback coach knows me and helps me keep in the right-head space, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's saying, I get a little distracted, it's not the right word.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little down on myself, maybe a little frustrated.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think in Brock, you've got a guy who is kind of ready to handle the pressure without those scars of being Kyle Shanahan's quarterback of being the 49er's quarterback.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there's also an unseen difference there that we haven't seen yet with Mac.

[SPEAKER_00]: He is good enough to win you multiple games.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's why he's an excellent signing.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's why he's a perfect fit.

[SPEAKER_00]: It would be malpractice to sign a quarterback as a backup that doesn't fit your system.

[SPEAKER_00]: That you can't raise the floor on.

[SPEAKER_00]: right like why would you bring a quarterback and who can't when you can't look good on your team.

[SPEAKER_00]: The answer is because there's not many guys that can't, but they got one.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it'd be crazy if you bring a quarterback to the can't fit your system or your system doesn't customize to a quarterback.

[SPEAKER_00]: You have to do one of the two.

[SPEAKER_00]: You have to bring in Mac Jones because he fits your system or you bring in like, um, [SPEAKER_00]: You know, another guy who's mobile, and you go, well, we'll just customize it to him when he's in the game, which is hard.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, first part right, second part wrong.

[SPEAKER_00]: Couple other things I want to hit while we're here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mac Jones, here's what he did well.

[SPEAKER_00]: 10 and 19 yard throws last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: These are all from PFF as now discussed by me, GFF.

[SPEAKER_00]: Guy football focus.

[SPEAKER_00]: 9 and 13, 158, two touchdowns, 150 pass are rating.

[SPEAKER_00]: Rewatching the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: His first throw the game was, [SPEAKER_00]: will second throw the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was the first third down in the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was nuts and like triple coverage.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what's interesting about them is I don't.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's times I think it's arms better than Brock's and at times I think it's not and where I've settled is I think when Brock can step into a throw it's just as good and maybe better.

[SPEAKER_00]: I probably not better.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think Mac my guess is if we really like nose up nose down right like a like that true deep ball maybe Mac and put more on it.

[SPEAKER_00]: He missed Pierce all in one, but it was because Colby he had to throw it early because Connor Colby missed a stunt but.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, his arm probably shows up when there's like pressure in his face, and he's just a little bit taller, and maybe that's where it shows up, but I, you know, here's what changes this week though, the Cardinals defense defensive line is much more dynamic than the same defensive line.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they were missing Chase Young was like, Chase Young, Steven, I think like Chase Young's the best pass rusher probably.

[SPEAKER_00]: creating opportunities like for Marvin Harrison that their OC is Drew Petsing is under a little bit of heat right now because people feel like they're not creative.

[SPEAKER_00]: But they are going to get more pressure this week.

[SPEAKER_00]: Last week, 18 of 43 drop-backs Max Jones had pressure, 18.6% that is way down from the 50 plus percent against the seahawks that that Brock Purdy found.

[SPEAKER_00]: interesting stat long as one of the day last week was a 13-yard scramble for Mac Jelts.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky Pierce all.

[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be again interesting this week and we'll see wait and see some injuries for the cardinal second there.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're a little beat up.

[SPEAKER_00]: But all four of Ricky's catches last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: First time we knew that, but I thought the interesting PFF ad was three of them were on contested catches.

[SPEAKER_00]: How about Bugatti [SPEAKER_00]: Was this nickname just invented this week?

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to use it filling in for pop of this Sunday on the radio, but I'm definitely using it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Five pressures and 20 rushes.

[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a Nick Wagner had a stat, a Niners internal stat that shows that Bryce Huff is getting off the line even quicker than [SPEAKER_00]: Nick Bosa, who's also very quick and second quickest off the line right now in the NFL, is Bugatti Bryce, five QB pressures and 20 rushes last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's pretty great.

[SPEAKER_00]: Feel really good about my D winners, you know, by the way for those of you watching and not listening.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I made this D winners image.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not D winners, but it looked good.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought I'd put it in here.

[SPEAKER_00]: targets.

[SPEAKER_00]: This will be interesting this week.

[SPEAKER_00]: Tray Benson has been taking a lot of kind of the RB2 carries for the Cardinals.

[SPEAKER_00]: They are not running the football effectively.

[SPEAKER_00]: James Connor for all of the he breaks tackles like Derek Henry stuff that I said last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: He seconded the league the last three years and broken tackles behind Derek Henry.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's like 3.1 yards of carry like they are not running the ball.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Tray Benson, their other guy catches the ball.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was kind of there.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're third down, they had like a late first half, kind of two-minute situation.

[SPEAKER_00]: And Benson was in there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So early down since James Conner, late down since Benson, and so D-winter's covering him potentially out of the backfield on third down is going to be a big deal.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm feeling good and making D-winter's predictions right now, because I'm hot on D-winter's.

[SPEAKER_00]: He allowed five catches on five targets last week, but he's right there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, lineback, or if you look at lineback or completion percentages, they're always, they're generally pretty high.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought, you know, the part that stood out from PFF is even though we allowed five catches.

[SPEAKER_00]: He only allowed 21 total yards on those five catches.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if it's 39 and you're checking it down to the back and he catches the ball, quote, unquote, you know, a catch on deep winners, but deep winners tackles him for a four yard game.

[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

[SPEAKER_00]: Here comes the pont team.

[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Williams last week, PFF.

[SPEAKER_00]: Week one, no pressures, no tackles, no stops.

[SPEAKER_00]: Week two, three pressures, four tackles, interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other thing that that I wanted to share that I thought was interesting from PFF and thanks to Jeff Dini for sharing a lot of these PFF numbers, 49ers blitzing.

[SPEAKER_00]: Adam Amine is calling the 40 thatters game this week on Fox.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he taught me something this offseason that thought was really interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: He said he likes instead of saying a team is 15th in something.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just compare them to the league average because a lot of times the difference between 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, it's going to be like, you know, if those are the ranks, let's say the value, let's say we're talking points.

[SPEAKER_00]: It might be like 21.2, 21.5, 22.1, 22.2, 22.6, and so if that's the difference between 14th and 25th, it sounds like if you're 14th, you're way better than the team that's 25th, and you're really not.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think with that in mind, this stat on Robert Salas defense is really interesting, and this week against the most mobile quarterback they've faced will be interesting with [SPEAKER_00]: who pitter-patter's all over the place.

[SPEAKER_00]: On early downs, the Niners have blitzed 18% of the time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, and we probably should compare this to some of like solids historical rates with the jet.

[SPEAKER_00]: But last year, the league average early down blitzing was 30%.

[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, the league average was 30%.

[SPEAKER_00]: This year, Robert Salas doing it 18% of the time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so wait, let's.

[SPEAKER_00]: On third and fourth down, and the sample sizes, we're only talking about, you know, five of 12.

[SPEAKER_00]: On third and fourth down, the nineners of blitz, 42% of the time, which is up over the league average from last year of 35.5%.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of questions before the year, how much would solid pressure and all that?

[SPEAKER_00]: And the answer is on late down to these pressuring more than average, and it's working.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there were a few other the PFF, the PFF numbers.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm off to Santa Clara.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they'll be more today, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Some news on Brock will see, but that's that for now, and I'll talk to you else later.