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[SPEAKER_00]: The Makeery Guys, welcome to the full blast podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Jeff Fader and before we get into it with me, I have explained it to you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't here last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have explained it to you.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take care of the business first things first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've said I was celebrating 50 years of being a business of the Blacks tea, sharpening system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright guys, listen, all jokes aside.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am sorry that I was not here last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really sorry that I wasn't here last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was planning on it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was planning on having an episode here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was planning on being on full black on night talk.

[SPEAKER_00]: And a few things happened that were out of my control.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I just needed to.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't sinking or swimming.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just give me a just a move and I and everything had to move a little bit and the podcast had to take up take a break But I figured you guys didn't care that much.

[SPEAKER_00]: I figured you didn't mind.

[SPEAKER_00]: I figured you understood I figured you thought fader just ran the New York City marathon I'm sure that he's it's either PR or ER maybe he was in the hospital Maybe I wasn't ER [SPEAKER_00]: If you thought about that, I said on the knife talk, because either for right before the podcast I said, it's PR or ER.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't hear from me, maybe it's the ER.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's PR.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's PR, ER is one thing, but I didn't really talk about the third option, which is neither.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not PR, ER, or neither.

[SPEAKER_00]: But not, or neither doesn't really work so well.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought what I'd do is I would tell you why I didn't have a podcast.

[SPEAKER_00]: the second half of the show and then I thought I'd talk about the New York City marathon and just kind of recap it and because it was such an emotional moment it was such a huge part of of of my upbringing of my life and it was such a great time and there was so much to unpack and I was ready to do it last week but like I said some shit I couldn't get out of bed on Monday I was in a [SPEAKER_00]: Marathon was on Sunday Monday.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like I was I mean he couldn't get that egg can get down the stairs dog I don't even know how it happened.

[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so let's talk about the butt marathon.

[SPEAKER_00]: So just real quick [SPEAKER_00]: I grew up in New York City, New York City, I referred to as one of my third one of my parents because I was like, right, last she kid, dad was trying to get his life together, mom was trying to get their life together separately.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't really kind of part of that whole situation.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I was able to kind of live my life and go see things in New York and I really believe that under any other city, I would probably be, um, [SPEAKER_00]: I'd say a near-do-all, but I'm probably a near-do-all now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say, you know, really just a loser.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that if I wasn't, if I didn't grow up in New York and have the experiences that I did and the interests that I learned and got, I think that it would have been probably pretty bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: I told someone I'd probably be a drug addict, but I don't know if that's the case.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just think I wouldn't have been this, I wouldn't be the Jeff Fader of that you know and, you know, tolerate.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wouldn't, that's it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, growing up, I used to go, my mother used to bring me to the park and we used to cheer people on, sometimes we knew people in the marathon, we'd go the park and cheer on runners and it just was, it was, wherever I was in growing up in New York or living in New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: The New York City marathon was such a huge part of the life of a New Yorker.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like part, especially when I was younger.

[SPEAKER_00]: going to watch the runners was huge, because what it is is it's a marathon that starts in statinile and then it goes into Brooklyn, into Queens, into New York, into the Bronx, back into New York, and it's like it shuts the whole city down, but it doesn't shut the whole city down is in like what a pain the ass, it's just the whole city down is in like this is like a time to celebrate New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: So growing up, I always used to why.

[SPEAKER_00]: I used to love in the morning.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'd watch it on local channels.

[SPEAKER_00]: Seven.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love watching the runners.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I loved when they would video the runners.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say, oh, I know where that is.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you knew the different neighborhoods.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I remember that place.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that's 59 tree bridge.

[SPEAKER_00]: I live right near there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember that street.

[SPEAKER_00]: And there's something about being in a city with this marathon.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's just like nothing else.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I was going to run the New York City.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to run the New York City Marathon, but I didn't have any options.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, before my daughter was born, my wife and I were members of the New York Roadrunners Club.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is now like 20 years, like a 25 years ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: After college, we really loved joining.

[SPEAKER_00]: We joined the Roadrunners Club, and they would have races in the park on every, like every other weekend.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it was so much fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like Central Park and everything about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: You meant younger people.

[SPEAKER_00]: You got good fitness, and I loved it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I love being part of that, and if you could run nine races within the confines of a year, you got free, and you were a member of good standing, you got free, you got instant access to the New York City Marathon because it was a real hot ticket to get.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the year we were going to get it, we were going to get it.

[SPEAKER_00]: We had done the half marathon.

[SPEAKER_00]: We had done everything.

[SPEAKER_00]: We were planning on it for the following year.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hillary is pregnant and then that just was like, well, we're not going to run the new marathon now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, then get a chance to do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: We would have been doing it.

[SPEAKER_00]: 2000 we would have gotten in if Lilo wasn't on the way we would have done the New York Sea Marathon 2003 2003 yeah 2003 2003 2003 we would have definitely done it but didn't happen you know Hillary was pregnant and then 2003 our daughter was born in December so Marathons in the first week of November [SPEAKER_00]: So then we just like, you know, parenthood just takes over all that and then a number of years ago, I reconnected with a friend of mine from high school who was on the board of the Michael J.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fox Foundation.

[SPEAKER_00]: She was also one of the captains of the team that ran at Michael J.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fox Foundation.

[SPEAKER_00]: These charities were on and you raised money and then it was a bubble.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I reached out to her, she got me on, and I got to run in 2012, 2012, 2013, 2013.

[SPEAKER_00]: 2013, I ran the New York City Marathon, I raised money for the Michael J.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fox Foundation, and I was so excited.

[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely trained, but I didn't train well enough, and the shoes I got were bad, and I guess I don't know what happened, and I just, you know, it was really hard, and I'm glad I did it, but it was like brutal to the point where I said, I'll never do this again.

[SPEAKER_00]: When I was 39, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm getting in my 40s, 48, 49, and I get 49, 50, and I think maybe I should try it again.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I should do it, maybe I did something wrong.

[SPEAKER_00]: I always thought that the first time I ran in the New York City marathon, I couldn't replicate running in the city, which is on concrete, and I thought that's some of my knees, and I wasn't comfortable.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was uncomfortable for the first time.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then by the time I turned 50, it turns out that my friend who had got me originally passed away.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought to myself, I was in a mood.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was right after the New York City Marathon.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was in a mood.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I was, I was, I was, was wistful.

[SPEAKER_00]: Wistful of my friend who'd got me in and then I just decided to send a message to the people.

[SPEAKER_00]: at New York City at Michael J.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fox Foundation and just kind of reconnect.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, let's just see what happens.

[SPEAKER_00]: I said, you know, I was a friend of Brooks.

[SPEAKER_00]: They did no idea who I was talking about.

[SPEAKER_00]: They, you know, life goes on after 12, you know, 12 years.

[SPEAKER_00]: People died like, oh, sorry about your friend.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she was doing your job, you know, whatever.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I reached out and then they sent me a form and then I was like, yeah, I might as well fill it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I will get in it and then I filled it out and then I was such a big shot.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to know how much you're going to raise and I thought, well, if I under value how much I'm going to raise, they'll never pick me.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'd better fucking go high and I'm thinking now I'm a big mocker now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can raise five grams and put them in five grams.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, a couple of months later, congratulations you're in the New York City, Mirath, I don't know how to fuck.

[SPEAKER_00]: So like this is now now we went from January to February by March I got into the New York City marathon and it's it and then I'm like committed and then that's the other thing is like you say you're going to do something to do something so I committed to it my wife thought I was crazy my friend saw those crazy I thought well you know maybe I just didn't train right through the last time and maybe it'll go better this time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I had spent five years on the peloton after the panning and I really felt like that was a better start like I had much more I had different musculature shout out to George decay musculator musculature around my knees and then I got the MRI I got the MRI and my knee and I was slight a meniscus stress strain but nothing crazy [SPEAKER_00]: and then I started training.

[SPEAKER_00]: I used the Hal Higden method.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hal Higden if you're a runner, Hal Higden is the master of marathons and he's one who's gotten people over the finish line for like 60 years, guys like a pro.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he'll give you a list.

[SPEAKER_00]: He'll give you training schedule and so like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: trained and you probably heard all about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't shut up about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't shut up.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got to raise all that money.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, or other Michael Ziafox and come after me that baseball bat, you know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_00]: We raised the money, did the training.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was dedicated to the training.

[SPEAKER_00]: There are only missed two days of training.

[SPEAKER_00]: The two days of training I missed was I was just to run a big, a long run when I was teaching at the Center for Mental Arts and then I was just to run a [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, I felt pretty good.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was on a very tight schedule.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was running in the mornings before work, and then on the weekends, for the long runs, and it really kind of it kind of killed my summer.

[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I did miss one of the early runs when I was in Barcelona, but it kind of killed my summer, but at the same time, I honestly felt like this is something I have to prove to myself that I can do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so we're there, okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've given you the backstory.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is a spite job, ladies and gentlemen.

[SPEAKER_00]: I am a, I run on spite actually, I have a conversation myself because this spite game is wearing thin.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think I've gone through a metamorphosis on my whole, I run by spite.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think I've done with that.

[SPEAKER_00]: But, or at least, I'm aware of the fact that it's a, it's a, it's an irresponsible manner of motivation.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love spite, ladies and gentlemen, but like, I don't need to spite myself, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: You need to spite somebody else okay, but don't fucking spite yourself.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, alright, so we're at, so last time you turned for me, it was, I was with Leah Airpots, and then after we, we ended the recording, and when they came up, I went down into the city.

[SPEAKER_00]: My daughter surprised me by saying that she was going to fly in with her friend, they wanted to support the race, she was like, there's no way I'm not going to go see you.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we, on Saturday before the marathon, my wife and I, and I, [SPEAKER_00]: At this point in time, we'll back it up.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Friday before the marathon, I had to go to the supermarket and I had a, I had a, I had a slight awkward situation.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're just supermarket to pick up some things.

[SPEAKER_00]: I had to pick up some food.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, [SPEAKER_00]: I had gotten my bib at the Javit Center.

[SPEAKER_00]: You go to the Javit Center to pick up your bib.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like you have to have multiple forms of ID, and then they scan you, and you have to have the app, and then you have to download the app, and they give you your bib, and you have to bag.

[SPEAKER_00]: And when you go to the race, the bib, which we're gonna talk about in a minute, the bib is like, has got all your information on it, when you're running, all the stuff we'll talk about in a bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you go plastic bag with all this stuff inside.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then the plastic bag is the only bag you're allowed to bring in either the marathon.

[SPEAKER_00]: To bring that back Friday, I got to go pick up a couple of things.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what, I got to pick up some, you know, I want to bring up Sam, I want to bring like a, I don't know, a bagel or something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was, what's the supermarket?

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I know where my, my phone rings and I pick the phone up, and it's the place that my mother's at.

[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden I hear my mother on the phone.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I've kind of been hinting at the fact that she doesn't know who I am.

[SPEAKER_00]: For the past two years, she hasn't really acknowledged me as her son.

[SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't really even said my name.

[SPEAKER_00]: She usually identifies me as her brother.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm fine with that.

[SPEAKER_00]: I want to make her as comfortable as possible, and I want to make her as like, as I want to make her as I'm laughing something happened when I phone call it was still still pretty funny, but I want to make her as comfortable and not not confused.

[SPEAKER_00]: So she doesn't call me often and I actually told them, I visit her and I've told them not to let her call only because it just makes her un, it makes her confused, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So they had her out and I don't know what happened and they got her to call.

[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, this woman, she cannot walk, she doesn't really know what's going on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you have a conversation with her, [SPEAKER_00]: her dementia is that she doesn't really remember the conversation.

[SPEAKER_00]: She remembers some things, but she doesn't remember people or names.

[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't really, you know, and then we could have a really nice conversation and then she's just [SPEAKER_00]: time doesn't really work with her, you know, it doesn't really, there's no, it's very sad and you know, all jokes aside, we're just doing the best we can, but if we don't visit her often, but when she calls it's a problem, usually what happens is they'll bring her to a nurse, she'll be sitting with the nurses, talking with them, and then she'll convince one of them to call their, you know, her home, and then they'll just call, and she's just like, [SPEAKER_00]: pick up the phone because when the when the place calls I answer, you know, something wrong, I mean, sometimes something's wrong.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is Kathleen.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you, like mom?

[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, yes, I can't stay here for another minute.

[SPEAKER_00]: I need you to pick me up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, mom, we're not, you know, I can't pick up because I have nowhere to stay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she's got her room.

[SPEAKER_00]: She's a room that they take care of her and they bring her food.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, what am I going to eat?

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, well, they're going to, the nurses are going to bring you to your room.

[SPEAKER_00]: What nurses?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like the nurses that they gave you the phone and dial the number.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, I don't even think I have a room here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I said, Mom, you have a room here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is a place that they take good care of you.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they keep you clean.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they bring you breakfast lunch and dinner, and they monitor you.

[SPEAKER_00]: And if they need you, if you need to bring go for a, you know, they roll you around.

[SPEAKER_00]: If they need, if you want to be rolled around, they take good care of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Really good care of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then she gets just getting confused and agitated, and she's, you know, [SPEAKER_00]: You know after and I'm in the supermarket hiding because all of a sudden people are passing me that I know and I'm just like trying to have this very awkward conversation And I'm saying mom very loudly and you know, it's all very you know, I'm trying to like come or down You can't hear me whole things are rack ladies and gentlemen It's just like and I'm just like trying to get myself you know getting me myself mentally ready to run the New York City marathon and She's just we go on it on and she goes [SPEAKER_00]: Well, my ex-husband's here, and I think he's going to pick me up, now her ex-husband is my father, who's been dead for 15 years.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm surprised this is the first time she's brought him up.

[SPEAKER_00]: Usually when she talks, she talks about herself as she's a child and she asks about her parents.

[SPEAKER_00]: She is yet, this is the first time she's talked about her ex-husband, you know, my father, who she [SPEAKER_00]: So she says, my ex husband's here and he's planning to pick me up and I said, oh, you don't say, she was, yeah, I said, well, tell him, tell him you're good.

[SPEAKER_00]: Tell him you don't need to ride.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so she should tell him to buzz off.

[SPEAKER_00]: She said, I should tell him to buzz off.

[SPEAKER_00]: I should tell him to buzz off.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, yeah, but tell him to buzz off.

[SPEAKER_00]: And she goes, I said, you're ex husband.

[SPEAKER_00]: So first she says, my ex husband's here with a guitar.

[SPEAKER_00]: I said, you're, I said, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben plays a guitar and she goes, no, no, no, no, no, a car.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ben's here with a car.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, Ben's here with a guitar, huh?

[SPEAKER_00]: with the car.

[SPEAKER_00]: I see I don't tell them to have to pick you up.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got you to square away.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to talk to the people who are going to get you back to your room.

[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to go anywhere.

[SPEAKER_00]: Don't go with your ex-husband.

[SPEAKER_00]: My father.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I start kind of like laughing because just the way she's talking about her ex-husband is in the the the thought of my father dropping everything to pick her up is like [SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, if you, if you, if you want to know if a person's got dementia, my mom had dementia because she thought my dad would have dropped everything to pick her ass up.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's real dementia.

[SPEAKER_00]: My dad, that wouldn't far from the truth.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, we're talking, and I just turned on my mic, you know what?

[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I got our square away.

[SPEAKER_00]: I said, if you see, if you see Ben, send him my regards.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like you, you see her, you see, then, send my regards.

[SPEAKER_00]: And she goes, okay, I certainly will.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, all right, Mom, listen, you're gonna be okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna come visit you soon.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love you.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna be okay, and she starts to settle down.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I just remember just to send my ex, that's what you have to think you don't say.

[SPEAKER_00]: Tell them I send my regards, you know, I'm fucking, you know, my old, my, the, the, my fucking, the spirit of my father's there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Tell them I said, what's up?

[SPEAKER_00]: So it ended in a funny way, but at the same time it was quite jarring as it always is.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I get pecked into the house.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to get myself squared away.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to relax.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to do much.

[SPEAKER_00]: So Saturday we wake up and then we go to the airport to pick Lila and her friend up and it was really amazing seeing them.

[SPEAKER_00]: We drove into the city.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was just so sweet that she came to visit to cheer me on.

[SPEAKER_00]: We drove into the city and then I went to my friend Eric Sass, my high school friend, who actually after we finished this recording, I'm going to go down and see him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go see him tomorrow night.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go to Nick's game.

[SPEAKER_00]: He and I go to Nick's game.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of my oldest friends.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he put me up in his apartment and he made me great dinner.

[SPEAKER_00]: He made dinner and we just had a really great time catching up as always.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just talking about, you know, he's my high school friend, we're both 51.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we're both have daughters around the same age.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we have similar things going on with our family life and our parents and aging parents.

[SPEAKER_00]: you know I knew his parents he knew my parents it's just kind of like this it was really really great um woke up the next morning uh marathon day we watched uh the what we watched part of the world series and it looked like I mean I mean before I went to bed or I'm third ending [SPEAKER_00]: It looked like the blue jays were going to win and guess what, that's not the case.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, fuck the Dodgers and congratulations.

[SPEAKER_00]: Walk out of wake up at 4, 3 something because there was a bus waiting for me on 30th and 6th.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I hopped in a Uber, ran to the bus, and the bus was the Michael J.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fox Foundation bus, and when the whole thing was there, we're going to take us to the starting line.

[SPEAKER_00]: The starting line is at the Verizano Bridge that's in Staten Island, and then there's a couple ways you can get there.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can usually most of the people getting in the marathon or either at a charter bus, or they were taking the satin out on ferry.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, here's where the bibs interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: So when you figure out when you decide to get in, when you have access into the marathon, you can put all your information in.

[SPEAKER_00]: It asks you how you're going to get there, and all that information is on your bib.

[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're going to take a ferry, it'll say on the bottom, it'll say, you know, Jeff Fader, 630 satin out of ferry.

[SPEAKER_00]: and they're color coordinated, and there's waves, and all the everything on your bib has a meaning.

[SPEAKER_00]: There were hundreds of thousands of people being part of the logistics of the Sparathon, which is unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have to take the the the fairy I could have but I thought it was just too much.

[SPEAKER_00]: You take the fairy and then from the fairy you're on the bus and then the bus gets you to the starting line.

[SPEAKER_00]: I Michael J.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fox Foundation had a charter bus.

[SPEAKER_00]: We got on the bus.

[SPEAKER_00]: Went straight to the finit to the starting line and then we get off the bus and still dark and then we have to go through a metal detector and then we have to show our our bib all at all at all times it'll be a color of a bib it'll show the wave and the time you're supposed to start.

[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, my bib said that my wave was to start at 1130, so they had five waves going every half an hour, and then then you go to the color waves village.

[SPEAKER_00]: So they had five waves, and each wave had its own village, and the villages had.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we get off, go through the metal, this actor walked through this huge news.

[SPEAKER_00]: 59,000 runners, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's wearing old clothes because the move is.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way to get your clothes back to the starting line.

[SPEAKER_00]: So what you do is you bring all your stuff in the plastic bag they give you and then you wear clothes that you want to donate to stay warm and then right before the race you don't need all your clothes in the big box and then it goes to donations which I think is terrific.

[SPEAKER_00]: Walk to my village.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm one of the first people there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I get there by like six and then I got I chill for five hours, which sucked.

[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, I'm such a neurotic about being late.

[SPEAKER_00]: That I just did not want to be late.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was just so afraid of being late.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's rolled around, had some, they had Dunkin' dough on it's there, I had a bagel, had some coffee, we had some walked around a lot, talked to some people, it was a lot of waiting, a lot of watching, took some beautiful sunset pictures of sunrise pictures and...

[SPEAKER_00]: We were getting fired up and then, you know, we were by the local newscasters and watch them for a little bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: So then we could close through to the time and I met up with a friend of mine who was also running, it was their 30th birthday and we met up and we were fired, it was really cool to see a friend of ours from the town, also running the marathon.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now I had a fully charged iPhone, a fully charged I, I [SPEAKER_00]: air buds, air buds, and then a fully charged Garmin watch.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, everything was fully charged and it was going through the Bluetooth.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like Bluetooth thing like a fucking bad man, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: The Garmin tells you where you're running, how you're running, where you're running, you know, hours, you know, how long you're running, you know, it's a pretty good way of getting a better idea of how things are going.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ready, we're, it's 11 o'clock ready to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: go to the corral that I'm supposed to be in, and then they walk us up to the Arizona Bridge.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's beautiful day, and then there's, they'd sang the National Anthem, and then they had Howard's, you said, Runners ready, and then the Howard's are goes off.

[SPEAKER_00]: The Howard's are goes off to start the, I mean, it was crazy, they were like, it was a huge event, it's 15,000 fucking people.

[SPEAKER_00]: The funny lines, the funny announcements they made.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this is something my friend Miles had told me years ago was a pair.

[SPEAKER_00]: So the VAERS on a bridge has upper level and a lower level.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I was in the lower level and then there's upper level.

[SPEAKER_00]: So apparently back in the day, back in the 1980s and then the 90s, it was a very traditional thing to pee over the side of the VAERS on a bridge.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then the people on the lower decks would get.

[SPEAKER_00]: urinated on um but they made an announcement they need a big announcement loud as fuck said urinating on the verizano bridge will lead to disqualification so there was there was nothing that [SPEAKER_00]: Pouts are goes off and we're we're starting in and now the whole idea is is like you've got to be careful when you're running a merit so I trained on asphalt and I also trained on me personally knowing that I don't really warm up until the third mile But the first mile is is the bridge is almost two miles long so you're on the various on a bridge for almost two miles [SPEAKER_00]: And they say that you should not go fucking full blast on the first, you know, on when you're on the bridge because you're so keyed up.

[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people are just their first time marathons and a lot of people are super keyed up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you just want to like get your time right and you want to get your PR, PR, we are right, right.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they suggest that it's really important to not go crazy.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I was really like, all right, I'm just going to like warm up on the bridge.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now, back to warming up on the bridge and you're donating.

[SPEAKER_00]: The move is, you got to hydrate the days before and then you have to go to the bathroom as many times as possible.

[SPEAKER_00]: I use the Porto Potty a lot and I got the greatest tip I got from my guys who I got my shoes from the Croton running company.

[SPEAKER_00]: They said, whatever you do bring wet wipes with you to the to the starting line or to the to the village.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was the best god damn advice I'd ever had.

[SPEAKER_00]: in this whole situation, because I was able to wipe off the seat, because people are crazy.

[SPEAKER_00]: These runners, they fucking put their, I don't know how they'd urinate, but they, some of them just get up on top and squat over and blast the whole joint.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I could wipe myself, everything was, everything was good.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I went to the bathroom many times.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did not, [SPEAKER_00]: I was getting messages from people.

[SPEAKER_00]: Craig Lockwood was suggesting that I was peeing or pooping myself.

[SPEAKER_00]: Seriously, if God doesn't know how to fucking run, you know, you know, peeing or pooping yourself.

[SPEAKER_00]: Start running, get over the bridge into Brooklyn, getting on the highway the light, it's, you know, it's later now.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we're probably heading towards, you know, we're touching noon, I practice running, better on like 839.

[SPEAKER_00]: So this is a little bit of a later in the day for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: The streets are quiet in the beginning of Brooklyn, because it's like the highway.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you get into Brooklyn and the streets [SPEAKER_00]: People are loving it and there are it's this is this is a generational This is a generational tradition which I've realized in which I love young people are out on the streets and they're having a party [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was having a good time except for one group of people The Hasidic Jews of Leavesburg who I know Are not crazy about the New York City marathon.

[SPEAKER_00]: We're super duper not crazy about the New York City marathon [SPEAKER_00]: So I got to back it up a little bit when I was a kid my sister lived in Williamsburg and my dad when he took me there He says, we need your Jewish people, we need to see our people We need to look and meet that we need to go and walk around the Hasidic neighborhood [SPEAKER_00]: Acidic Jews are different type of Jew.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're much more orthodox Jewish community.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know them because they have the guys have longbeards.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the kids have PAS, which is the earlox.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they wear the big hats.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they wear the plain white shirts.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then the coats.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then the women are, you know, they maybe they're wearing wigs.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they're all buttoned down.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, everyone looks the same.

[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of like, I used to refer to the acidic Jews as the urban omish.

[SPEAKER_00]: Still works.

[SPEAKER_00]: But when I, that took me down, I'm just like, really?

[SPEAKER_00]: These are our people, these are the Jewish people.

[SPEAKER_00]: We need to see this Jewish woman.

[SPEAKER_00]: We go into fucking Williamsburg.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're staring us, they're not staring, they're glaring.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're glaring at my father and I'm just like, and I'm just looking at my dad, I'm just like, I don't think we're welcome here.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just like, no, no, no, you need to know, and they are glaring.

[SPEAKER_00]: We are clearly interlopers in their neighborhood.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, Dad, I don't think they like us here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they think, I don't think we're there people.

[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just like, yeah, maybe you're right.

[SPEAKER_00]: When that was the end of that, but it was just like this.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was trying to have this, you know, very cultural moment with his son and just like, bro, shout out to the Hacitic people, you know, let's not pretend that we're not, I'm not, we're not bros.

You know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_00]: And at the New York City marathon, [SPEAKER_00]: Same fucking thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, there were no hesitating people lined up on the on the sides of the streets with signs They were playing Frogger.

[SPEAKER_00]: They were trying to cross the streets without getting hit by runners and it was actually quite hilarious There's a ton of video on the Lot of reels about how they were just like just trying to cross the street without taking killed not super psyched get through Williamsburg [SPEAKER_00]: And we get into, I'm trying to think, before Williamsburg was like Borham Hill and all that, and it was just great.

[SPEAKER_00]: The streets were littered, people were going crazy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Their signs were awesome, people were handing food out.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one thing about social media that's so amazing is that I think that there's now people are trying to get on to like, they want to get viral for having a great sign.

[SPEAKER_00]: So there were signs like, [SPEAKER_00]: you know, you run better than the government does and there were millions and millions of signs.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now here's the problem with me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was so afraid that I was going to get caught up in the moment that I really tried to keep my head down and my sunglasses on and I had down and I really wanted to keep hydrating and I want to keep going and I really wanted my job was to do better than I did when I was 39.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, through Brooklyn, Brooklyn was a fucking party, it was amazing people playing music, and Bongo's, I saw some friends of mine from Summer Camp who camped out for me, then I saw some other friends, I saw some people.

[SPEAKER_00]: All the while the New York Road owners club came up with a app and the app would tell you people could look at your bid number and then they could track where you were.

[SPEAKER_00]: There was a chip in the bid and then the chip would be able to tell people where you were.

[SPEAKER_00]: The problem was, was so many people were using it.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're fucking app crashed.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, all of a sudden, I'm getting phone calls and texts, phone calls and texts.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you?

[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you?

[SPEAKER_00]: And now you can't answer the phone, but then series telling me I got, you know, I got a phone call here, a text here.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then by the time I get to Queens, I get to the Plasky Bridge.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you see the real unfaith or knives, you'll see the last video of me that I took was of the Plasky Bridge, which is the halfway point in Queens.

[SPEAKER_00]: The bridge that separates Queens from Brooklyn.

[SPEAKER_00]: And my phone went, my, the, I had 10% power because all the people, where are you?

[SPEAKER_00]: Where are you going to be?

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to play in this things out.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, run, I'm trying to figure it out.

[SPEAKER_00]: And my, between, and then my playlist, and then the Garmin and the Bluetooth, just like, was just sap in it energy.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, my phone was dead by the time I got to Queens.

[SPEAKER_00]: I had 10% left, and I was just like, right, well, everybody's on their own.

[SPEAKER_00]: And now I have to raw dog the rest of this marathon, [SPEAKER_00]: I have no, I don't have enough power to I need to make sure I have a little bit of power so I can reach my family when I cross the finish line But so I got a raw dog the rest is marathon.

[SPEAKER_00]: Get to the halfway point of feeling pretty good.

[SPEAKER_00]: My pace is pretty decent I'm noticing that it's much harder and a lot of it's because of the concrete and the steel that you're running on which is not nice [SPEAKER_00]: Get over the plasky bridge into Queens, Long Island City, then you get on to what I can only describe as hell on earth, which is the 59th street bridge.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I call it hell on earth because now we're in towards the afternoon.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like 2ish 230.

[SPEAKER_00]: The sun is high.

[SPEAKER_00]: And we're running across the 59th street bridge, which is...

[SPEAKER_00]: The way that lighting was, it was like, I was explaining to people like it was like, it was like being in the, um, uh, a heronamus Bosch painting about hell because it was dark and it was, uh, [SPEAKER_00]: dirty from foot and sand.

[SPEAKER_00]: It almost looked like a backdrop.

[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been like a backdrop for the movie dude because it was just like everything was very brown and dusty and rusty and dusky and people were plotting along and running on the 15th anniversary bridge is brutal because it's straight up and it's all concrete and steel and it's just brutal just fucking brutal and you don't hear anybody all you hear is everybody all the people running [SPEAKER_00]: in the plotting, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: And then as you get over, I mean, it was hell.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the 50th anniversary bridge was total hell.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then as you dip back into New York, all of a sudden you start to hear everybody.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you get into fun to first Avenue and then the crowds going wild.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now most people put on their jerseys, are on their bib somewhere their name, because then what happens is the people, the spectators are yelling your name.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I didn't want to write Jeff, G-E-E-F-F because I was going to get so ticked off if people just said, go, G-O-F, go, go off if I would have just gotten so irritated and then I didn't want to write fader because I thought people would just go fader, go fader, that would annoy me.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought I should write, you know, run my sister passed away as you know, Jenny, and I thought I should write Jenny.

[SPEAKER_00]: But then I'm thinking to myself, people are going to think that I'm transitioning.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't want that either.

[SPEAKER_00]: which is hilarious because it's just like obviously I'm not, but at the same time it's like you never know.

[SPEAKER_00]: So then I wrote four Jenny on the, I wrote four F-O-R and then Jenny.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I figured, that's good enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: People know that I'm running four Jenny, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, so, [SPEAKER_00]: Every so often I hear somebody go for a jetty, go for a jetty, go for a jetty.

[SPEAKER_00]: The move is is you don't want to give people too much interpretation.

[SPEAKER_00]: You just, you do what you got to do a name.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was a woman I was running with, just happens to ignore, name was Lucy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Lucy got fucking people were diggin' Lucy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Lucy was gettin' it, she was gettin' cheers, people were freaking out.

[SPEAKER_00]: All it said was Lucy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mine was too difficult to interpret because it's, I'm not Jenny, and it's for Jenny, you know?

[SPEAKER_00]: It was too much, it was too much for your, the synapses to kind of, so I didn't get a whole lot, but at the same time I was grateful to.

[SPEAKER_00]: Get on the 59 Street Bridge, get off the 59 Street Bridge on the first Avenue and the whole place just opens up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the left is my family.

[SPEAKER_00]: They told me where they were going to be.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was where they were at the last time.

[SPEAKER_00]: And my daughter's there, and my friend is there, and the lilyl, Hillary's there, and then our friends may and may and may and may and may and may and may and may were there, and I just came over, and I just hugged them.

[SPEAKER_00]: Now people would hug and they'd stop and talk to their friends, but I don't know what happened to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like I needed to keep going.

[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like if I stopped, I would.

[SPEAKER_00]: So that was about, by the time I saw them on 1st Avenue, that was about 16 miles in the fucking tired.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really fucking tired.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm realizing that it's a different vibe.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a different vibe than my 18-mile situations.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm also starting to notice that my timing, my time isn't terrific.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm feeling good, and I don't have knee problems, and I don't have leg problems, like I did.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not fucking, I'm, I've got a tight deadline, so I've just kept going and then all of a sudden it's only for an Eric and he was there and then you go up first to Avenue and then you're dead, but the best part is is the New York City Mirror and I wish I had thought about this, you don't need to bring water or hydration because the marathon has every other mile they have a water station.

[SPEAKER_00]: And by the time I got to mile 18, I decided I'm not going to, I didn't walk, but I walked the water stations, like a grab a glass, a grab a couple of, a geterate, drink that, grab a couple of water, drink that, I'd walk the whole way, you know, through the, you know, a paffle block.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then that was like a little bit of regrouping.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was grateful for the water stations and I realized I didn't have to bring, I brought my own shit because it's just like, I just forgot that they're going to have it and I was like not, I didn't really totally trust that I wouldn't be hydrated.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see anybody collapsing and seeing anybody falling and seeing anybody in real problems.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did see some people in the VOM city at the end, but I did not see anybody in the, and there were no medical emergencies that I noticed.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about 59,000 people, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, I really wanted this New York moment where I just turned to this guy and I say, fuck you.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I was so tired.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was so, just like tired, but at the same time, I was afraid of losing any bit of energy that I was like fucking let him go.

[SPEAKER_00]: Into the Bronx.

[SPEAKER_00]: Where usually there's not a lot of people.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's not as much people the Bronx was a party There was these Dominican people playing in music They were bongo drums and drums and cans and people were fucking partying It was a whole party the whole time every different [SPEAKER_00]: Every burrow had a different flavor and it was amazing and everyone was so cool And the funny thing is no matter what burrow you've going to the first sign you'd see is welcome to Queens now get out That was amazing welcome to Bronx now get out It was great and it's all you know all of them were great and people were handing food out There were people handing up beer.

[SPEAKER_00]: There were people as a woman who was handing out cigarettes for Christ's [SPEAKER_00]: They were have drinks in water and they were banana people and all the, whatever you want.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's a guy still giving up pizza in Hamburg because I was afraid he didn't even.

[SPEAKER_00]: Getting the Bronx, that's about 21 and I'm starting to really cramp up.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's also getting warm around, everyone's starting to cramp up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, I got to keep moving and I just got to put my head down and keep going.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then I saw a guy giving out half a banana.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't want, I'd never, I didn't slap people's hands and didn't give high fives.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even have fist bump.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was so afraid of getting a comfortable weekend.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, don't touch anybody's hands.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is the York don't fucking, like we're on the fucking subway.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'll touch anybody.

[SPEAKER_00]: And the guy was giving out a half a banana.

[SPEAKER_00]: I took a half a banana and that did it, man.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I was so psyched because I had heard and I'd remember that a mile 20 hit the wall where you just like, it's just mine, no, no, no matter.

[SPEAKER_00]: And my old 20, I locked in, and I just kept on going, I walked quickly through the water stations.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was grateful for the water stations, but then I kept going, and then in the back into Manhattan, and then we started going back into the park, and then the funniest thing happened.

[SPEAKER_00]: this we were in the park now we're at mile 23 and I'm thinking to myself we're a close man we're really close and into the park I know how far we've gone and I know and I'm like just cross the finish line before you've got to cross the finish line before the sun sets [SPEAKER_00]: I cannot cross the finish line in the darkness and the bullshit part of Adidas because they started so late.

[SPEAKER_00]: If I started earlier, it wouldn't have been the same situation, but it makes you feel as though like when you see these videos of the oldest runners and stuff like that, all these people finishing in 12 o'clock at night, if they started 11, 30 in the afternoon, it's not like they started early in the morning, and they've been running for 25 hours, you know?

[SPEAKER_00]: So I was just like, oh, I got to...

[SPEAKER_00]: So this guy is giving away a rice crispy treats and he goes, [SPEAKER_00]: For Jenny Run for Jenny here, here's a race crispy tree for Jenny and I'm not taking anything I don't really want anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also afraid of cramping up to so I put my hand up and You know like wave them off like thank you.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, thank you and he goes [SPEAKER_00]: Jenny would have had a rice crispy treat, she would have done it, you should take a rice crispy treat for Jenny, she would have done it, which was very funny.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I laughed and then as I rounded Central Park South, my family was there again.

[SPEAKER_00]: My daughter was there, my wife was there, minking Ray were there and it was, I just like, you can see it in the real, I kind of collapsed on my daughter's shoulder and I'm just like, [SPEAKER_00]: Get through, finish the whole thing, there's the finish line, 26.2 miles, and then you got it, we finished it, I finished it, the sun was still up, thank God.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I looked at my time.

[SPEAKER_00]: and my time last when I did it when I was 39 was five hours and seven minutes, which I thought I can beat.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't beat it.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got five hours and I think 20 minutes, five hours and 20 minutes.

[SPEAKER_00]: Five hundred and twenty minutes, something like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Did not beat five hours and twenty or twenty seven.

[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember, I can't remember, I'm locking it out actually.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't, I was kind of bummed out of at it, frankly, I was really thought that I was doing better.

[SPEAKER_00]: I felt physically better than when I did back then, but obviously, you know, young Jeff had the upper hand, which I, you know, tip the cap to him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I respect, once he get over the finish line, they put a metal around you, the metals are super duper cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually going to get him engraved, I found it engraved, we're not too far from you, we're going to get him engraved.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they were got it done, I thought, why not?

[SPEAKER_00]: And then they give you these orange ponchos that are so cool, they're fur-lined, they're fleece-lined.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you got to walk two miles out to get to the, now at this point, because of the way the traffic is, I can't get to my, my family can't get to me, I can't get to them, so I'm on the phone with Hillary and I'm just like dead.

[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, let's meet a grand central station, I'm like, all right, I'll get to grand central station.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm wearing the orange poncho, I've got my metal, and then there were two miles.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's a very slow, quiet walk out of the city, out of the park, and people are just like, you know, just silence, everyone's dead, everybody's dead, 26.2 miles, they were dead.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I smell terrible, smell horrible, you know, it's just horrible, and I did not take a leak the whole time, which is madness.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know what happens, this whole going to the bathroom and pooping yourself that, I mean, I evacuated before the thing, back in, you know, 10, 30, I was good to go and then I pushed my last leak around 11 and I was good to go and I was good to go to the whole day into the night.

[SPEAKER_00]: no accidents, no even not even feeling it and they had bathrooms along the way to some people were using the bathroom.

[SPEAKER_00]: I needed it.

[SPEAKER_00]: So walk towards the subway and it's a long walk to the subway.

[SPEAKER_00]: I get to the subway and the people on the subway were so fucking awesome.

[SPEAKER_00]: They were cheering, all the runners.

[SPEAKER_00]: There weren't a few runners taking the most people were getting picked up.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was me and then a couple other people were in the orange.

[SPEAKER_00]: There were people cheering for us and congratulating us on the subway strangers.

[SPEAKER_00]: And this, I get on the subway and this woman says, here you need to sit, you need to sit and I can't sit, madam.

[SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate it, but I swear to God, if I sit, I'll never get back up and this guy goes, don't worry, won't get you where you need to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're the champion.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was the greatest part of the, one of the greatest experience of all time is just talking to people on the subway.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just minding my business and quiet, but I'm wearing this fuck, I look like I'm just right in the marathon.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wearing a fucking metal.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wearing this, I [SPEAKER_00]: or an elegant giant or in traffic cone, and the people in New York are unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is the thing about the whole situation.

[SPEAKER_00]: New York gets a bad rap because the whole time you're talking about three million spectators who were all in on the New York City marathon and they were all in the line the streets all day.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was a party screaming and hauling and cheering on every burrow at a different flavor and the people of New York were unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_00]: This was a love letter to the city.

[SPEAKER_00]: the New York City Marathon is a love letter to the city and it was amazing and it was incredible and the people of New York are amazing and just to now on the next subject is in something I always talk about, I want to talk about it in New York is one of the things I've been doing with the knife talk was especially when a portion of fire was hot.

[SPEAKER_00]: When fortune fires out, I made an effort to say, if you're not from New York and you go on fortune fire and you happen to have an opportunity, let's just say something happens.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say you didn't win.

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say you got an extra day and you don't want to sit in a hotel.

[SPEAKER_00]: Send me a DM, I'll give you an itemized tour guide of where you should go and how you should go in New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: I had at least 16 contestants, a fortune of fire reached out to me, and I didn't say anything, and I gave them an itinerary, and I specifically said, ask New Yorkers directions.

[SPEAKER_00]: Ask New York, do not be afraid of talking to people, do not be afraid of taking this subway, do not be afraid of talking to New Yorkers, New Yorkers is the greatest.

[SPEAKER_00]: And let me tell you this, New Yorkers are extraordinary.

[SPEAKER_00]: These are, I mean, it's like, it brings tears here, I'm not right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: But when I was on the subway, and I was just talking to strangers who wanted to know about the marathon, and they were really, really cool and dudes were slapping me on the back and congratulating me, which was super cool.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was one of those things, it's just like, this is what New York is about.

[SPEAKER_00]: New York's gonna get a bad rap.

[SPEAKER_00]: get to the grand sensual people are super cool get on the train people are super cool I'm standing because I'm like fucking wreck and it was really really cool talking to regular New Yorkers after the marathon and what it was like and stuff like that It was amazing it was amazing everything I wanted except for the time and I was afraid And I wish I could have enjoyed it more my wife would have loved it because she would have loved stopping and talking to people [SPEAKER_00]: I know for a fact that my wife, who loves, she loved being a spectator, she loves the people of New York, she would love to take pictures with the signs.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was so focused that I wasn't able to enjoy it as I could have.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, get home and then Sunday, Monday, I'm just dead, just fucking dead and then get to the shop on Tuesday and then my guy comes in and we'll talk in him for a second because I got some to tell you.

[SPEAKER_00]: He said he had a job opportunity came up and he wants to take it and I congratulate him and this is part of life And I wish him well when you when an opportunity presents himself you got to take it and he gave me notice which Kind of I mean I had to make changes, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: So I had all of a sudden realized I have a limited time with this guy right before Christmas [SPEAKER_00]: and then Carl from Tormic was coming on Thursday, he flying in to do it short dock on Thursday and Friday.

[SPEAKER_00]: So all of a sudden everything's in tumult and I was like trying to figure out what we're going to do with keep my guy busy and then make sure that I'm getting enough done with him for ready for Christmas and then get ready for Carl and do shot lists and be very involved with doing this shot list for Tormic and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: everything.

[SPEAKER_00]: So what happened to happen was the night full blasts and knife talking full blasts had to take a ride.

[SPEAKER_00]: Which is fine, you guys are alright?

[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, that was the reason why I didn't have an episode.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was just like so much came over me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really even have a chance to kind of enjoy the marathon, which is good.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think life is that one of that way, you don't need to like rest in your laurels and like, I don't need to be celebrated.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually glad to kind of like actually help me recover because all of a sudden I got to move around a lot.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, in terms of the body, my legs are still my hips are still super sore.

[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, some of my, some of my feet probably, I got some foot problems now.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're, like, it's a black and blue situations that are kind of like starting to heal up but other than that, I have taken a week and a half off and, uh, I'm, uh, [SPEAKER_00]: moving around a lot, walking the dogs and stuff, but I'm not exercising as much.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get back in the peloton hard, I'm looking forward to that.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then the last thing is, on Tuesday, we had the mayoral election.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I want to end it on.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it was interesting because you're talking about one of the greatest events in New York city.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, New York City Marathon is the closest you're going to get as a regular person, too.

[SPEAKER_00]: becoming feeling like a professional athlete.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was amazing and you just, you're seeing the entire city of New York and everything about it's great.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then the fucking, the fucking, the fucking, the fucking mayoral election and elections all of the country happened and I really wanted to address a couple things and I wanted to also be nuanced.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really talk about politics because I find it to be so grotesque unless someone can come up with something a little bit more interesting.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that there's any real point of me and you've heard everything.

[SPEAKER_00]: You've heard all the perspectives from all these people and then you come up with your own ideas and of who's what and what's what and I just wanted to give a completely different viewpoint on the mayor of New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: I grew up in a family.

[SPEAKER_00]: My mother used to work for in the 60s, and my mother worked in the office of Mayor John Lindsay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mayor John Lindsay was a younger, kind of, JFK's looking mayor, a liberal mayor, who really, you felt like a real progressive stance for New York, this is back in the late 60s.

[SPEAKER_00]: And so my mother worked for him for a long time.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was sort of a real big, [SPEAKER_00]: Marilyn Z was a, sorry to say this, but he was not an effective mayor, much like most of them were.

[SPEAKER_00]: I grew up in this, you know, in this household that Marilynsey was, you know, the Lord and Savior.

[SPEAKER_00]: Marilynsey was not the Lord Savior.

[SPEAKER_00]: Marilynsey was, it was a lot of smoke and mirrors.

[SPEAKER_00]: He over promised and underproduced.

[SPEAKER_00]: He alienated a lot of New Yorkers.

[SPEAKER_00]: He did not help race relations in New York, which he was trying to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was ineffective as a manager.

[SPEAKER_00]: And, um, in the history of, like, and I'm not saying this, like, I'm not picking on him.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is the beginning stages of how New York Bayers have been.

[SPEAKER_00]: my mother loved him and but like the history record show that he was not a great mayor for New York now the guy but after him I don't remember I was born then but the next mayor that I do remember was mayor Ed Koch my my dad affect affectionately and I'm being I'm joking [SPEAKER_00]: He used to refer to him as Ed Crotch Mayor Crotch.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was another ineffective mayor who was trying to be a different type of mayor, a little bit tougher mayor.

[SPEAKER_00]: As the life goes on, I think that he was trying to be a little bit more.

[SPEAKER_00]: more of a New Yorker, less opposed to this stuffy politician, but he was ineffective too.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was really, really, he really did a lot of bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: He did a lot of, he didn't help the LGBTQ community, he didn't help the progressive.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gay rights that he could have considering that you know when he died they said that he'd been a closet to gay person his whole life and he really kind of didn't help with how the AIDS epidemic was in the 80s which would have really been a pretty helpful.

[SPEAKER_00]: That was a really quite a terrible time in New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: David Dinkens, I remember David Dinkens, David Dinkens another liberal [SPEAKER_00]: just they called him a limousine liberal because he did these he did not help with race relations there was between Ed Koch and David Denkins there was a lot of racial tension due to you know just it was he did these guys did not help the situation at all in effect another ineffective mayor David Denkins however he was very well [SPEAKER_00]: of the Arthur Ash Stadium.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was very influential in the cities getting the tennis courts for the U.S.

Open, but you know, that's what you like, find by me.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did vote for David Dinkens.

[SPEAKER_00]: He ran against Giuliani back in the day.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's my first time voting.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think my mother knew David Dinkens, and I think that's the reason why I [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that that was the reason why I voted for David Dickens, but he was not effective.

[SPEAKER_00]: Went to college, came back to from college, Rudy Giuliani was running again.

[SPEAKER_00]: You lost the David Dickens through the Giuliani was running against Ruth Messenger and I voted for Rudy Giuliani.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel as though me having a record where I wrote it as a resident of the New York City, [SPEAKER_00]: ever know who actually voted for Rudy Giuliani back in 1996 it was a strange time there was so many there were so many mayors who were ineffective and crime was not doing well and Giuliani was a prosecutor [SPEAKER_00]: He came in and he beat the brakes off New York City.

[SPEAKER_00]: He, that was when I remember when we moved in, it was referred to as Giuliani time.

[SPEAKER_00]: Some of you may not remember.

[SPEAKER_00]: Admiral Lima was a, was a, was a, was a young African guy who got swept up and arrested and Sodomized by two police officers with a, with a plunger.

[SPEAKER_00]: And while they were doing that, sorry for, sorry if that was a little bit rough for some of you, they were yelling it's Giuliani time, which was a very symbolic of the hard-nosed crackdown that Giuliani did in New York, which became, um, [SPEAKER_00]: became, he hit New York with a lion fist, I remember back in the day when there were white vans with newspapers over the windows and people were getting snatched up off the streets.

[SPEAKER_00]: I remember there was a brothel by NYU on 13th Street between 2nd and 3rd and there was prostitutes [SPEAKER_00]: And one in particular was a bigger woman who would stand in between the cars and you say, whoa, what's wrong with that?

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, she had a book, always she had a book that was upside down, which was meant to tell you that she was a prostitute.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember skateboarding pastor, [SPEAKER_00]: I would go on a forbidden plan to get some comic books and then I've skateboarded pastor and she said, I'll skateboard you and that was like, I laughed so hard but at the same time I was died and then I affectionately referred to her as.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not proud of this, by the way, but I refectionally refer to her as Java the Slut.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, Java the Slut could all job the Slut, but once, once Giuliani time came, there was no more brothels in Java the Slut had to, who knows what the hell she had to go.

[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that it became very clear that he was a rough, he was a rough mayor.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there was some artist who did a piece at the Brooklyn Museum and it was a portrait of Rudy Giuliani.

[SPEAKER_00]: Men and Cowdon, and he didn't like that at all, and he made a whole big effort about to defund the Brooklyn Museum, and I just remember at the time, thinking to myself, fuck this guy, you know, I was a young artist, and young artists are just like, you know, it's you're supposed to be subversive.

[SPEAKER_00]: And you have a little bit of a sense, you, you should be grateful that anyone's doing anything about him anyway.

[SPEAKER_00]: They're talking about him.

[SPEAKER_00]: You should have taken that as a compliment.

[SPEAKER_00]: If somebody had painted a portrait of me in Elephantong, I would have fucking tried to buy it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Be like, I need that.

[SPEAKER_00]: My fucking life.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?

[SPEAKER_00]: I need Elephantong Jeff in my life, hanging in the home.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that is like, I don't know how you can't be like slightly honored that an artist would throw their violin at you.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's just something that everything about it is so great.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, however, we were hot and bothered about old Giuliani and then 911 hit and Rudy Giuliani was the best mayor we could have possibly had at that moment.

[SPEAKER_00]: We hated it before, we hated it before 911 and from 911 on to, I don't know, I mean, [SPEAKER_00]: he was perfect.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was the perfect mayor and people wouldn't.

[SPEAKER_00]: I you forget about Julie on any time.

[SPEAKER_00]: You forget about Adam Nuralwima.

[SPEAKER_00]: You forgot about job of the slut.

[SPEAKER_00]: You forgot about Dung Julie on the guy was perfect.

[SPEAKER_00]: He said all the right things.

[SPEAKER_00]: He did all the right things.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was the perfect mayor at the time after 9.11.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I won't say anything other than that, except for I don't know what the fuck happened afterwards.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was, he was shacked up with his, his fucking dude, Bernie Carrack, who was like a corrupt cop who was like a total corruption, when he, he's certain time, Julianne had some, you know, bad shit going on.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, for a guy who was used to be an AG, he certainly wasn't, he wasn't perfect.

[SPEAKER_00]: After 9-11, I mean after his term is mayor, his time in May as mayor during 9-11 was immaculate.

[SPEAKER_00]: He could joke, he went on the Saturday live, he made what's all the Yankee games, he was America's mayor, it was great, and I don't know what the fuck had.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a shake-spirion, the guy turned into a total disaster, a total disaster.

[SPEAKER_00]: Who's next?

[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Bloomberg.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Bloomberg was a, everyone was just really nervous because everyone was just like, you know, dad, you know, Giuliani was like dad and he was leaving and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Bloomberg came in and he was probably that my favorite mayor to date what he did for the landscape of New York was pretty amazing.

[SPEAKER_00]: He did something that I didn't think anybody could do.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he stopped smoking and restaurants in bars and I thought that was going to be the end of restaurants in bars and it wasn't I thought he was a great man I thought Bloomberg was a great man here.

[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Julie and he was a great man after 9-11 9-11 until his until the end he was great Before 9-11, I was like I hated everything about him [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the way it is.

[SPEAKER_00]: When you're a New Yorker, love Giuliani during the afternoon 11.

[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't really trust Bloomberg until the end and Bloomberg was a terrific mayor.

[SPEAKER_00]: Build a Blasio sucked.

[SPEAKER_00]: Terrible mayor during the pandemic and I don't but however, I don't think anyone could have survived the pandemic and Adams is like, I mean, this guy, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can have good, so here's what here's the thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we got now Zorin Mondami.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not crazy about him.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also, I wasn't, you got three terrible choices.

[SPEAKER_00]: Curtis Lee Wahoo was the guardian angels and I don't think anyone realizes he's been on the radio for like 25 years He's really learned how to the community was a very good communicator.

[SPEAKER_00]: However, he was a wacko.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was a New York wacko his whole life [SPEAKER_00]: And then Andrew Cuomo, it's like, it's enough already.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you got to be kidding me.

[SPEAKER_00]: These three people, and the thing about Montami is there's never ever any experience.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's my opinion.

[SPEAKER_00]: My opinion is just like, guys got no experience.

[SPEAKER_00]: However, you know, look, young people want the young people want and got bless them.

[SPEAKER_00]: My opinion was, it was like, I didn't have to, I didn't vote, I'm not a resident of Manhattan anymore, or New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that, you know, given the choice of getting bitten by a snake, hidden ahead of by a baseball bat, or kicked in the balls.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's your decision.

[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what that threat of that three or three is.

[SPEAKER_00]: Andrew Cuomo, get in over the head.

[SPEAKER_00]: But Mondami's getting bitten by a snake.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then, [SPEAKER_00]: Slee was kidnapped by the boss.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can switch them all around.

[SPEAKER_00]: The matter all three of them are not great.

[SPEAKER_00]: However, this is who we have Every time someone votes for a mayor.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's always a reaction to the former mayor and This guy hit all the this guy hit all the bells that people wanted and you know here here here is what I'll say [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to, well, I got irritated.

[SPEAKER_00]: I got irritated by all the outside of New Yorkers who had things to say about Mondamind.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're going to be communist and all the people are going to leave, and you know, you're going to have to show you a lot of bros.

You got to have enough of the fuck you're talking about.

[SPEAKER_00]: Number one is every single time a liberal mayor has been elected, there has been this freak out by the right that everyone's going to move out of New York and the rich people are going to move out of New York and New York's over.

[SPEAKER_00]: New York's dead and they've been doing this shit since 2003.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like, given me a fucking break, New York live through 9-11, no one moved, you know, whereas everyone was freaking out.

[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people moved.

[SPEAKER_00]: We made it through the pandemic.

[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone was moving out of New York because the rents are too high and y'all have a sudden you can work from remotely so why don't we just get out of New York in general?

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're talking about two big moments that were clearly very pivotal in terms of people [SPEAKER_00]: Mondami's just gonna be fine, and you know what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Let's let him be as terrible as every other mayor.

[SPEAKER_00]: You have to understand.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is nothing to do with his being a democratic socialist.

[SPEAKER_00]: It is nothing to do with any of this stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: He's not gonna affect the people of New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what he's going to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: He has all the rights and the legacy to be as shitty as every other politician who's been in New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you realize how embarrassing it is for the Democratic Party in the state of New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: He can't do much worse.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, every single Democratic governor since Mario Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo's father, has left in disgrace.

[SPEAKER_00]: let's think about that.

[SPEAKER_00]: You got David Patterson, left and disgrace.

[SPEAKER_00]: Andrew Cuomo, left and disgrace.

[SPEAKER_00]: Elliott Spitzer, who was potentially the best potentially could have been the best governor we ever had.

[SPEAKER_00]: Left and disgrace.

[SPEAKER_00]: He was cheating on his wife.

[SPEAKER_00]: Fucking a hooker with a [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're talking about every single Democratic governor with the exception and now a Kathy Hockel.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm crossing my finger, she told us together, every single governor of New York that has been a Democrat, left in disgrace, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Most of the politicians in New York are disgraceful people.

[SPEAKER_00]: Eric Adams is on the take don't let's just not play Julianne was on the take let's not play.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know David Dickens.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean he all he was doing is going to have fucking parties, you know Cache he dead.

[SPEAKER_00]: We don't leave him alone, but he didn't do a great job And Mike Bloomberg.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know But I mean you're talking about a Litney a litney [SPEAKER_00]: of garbage politicians.

[SPEAKER_00]: So instead of thinking that this guy is going to be, this guy could be as garbage as everybody else.

[SPEAKER_00]: However, you have to look at his future leading of New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: through the lens of the garbage that's been before him, and I think it's unfair to not give him the credit of realizing that his destiny is probably along the same lines as most of the garbage politicians we've had.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do much worse than what we had.

[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot do much worse than what we've had, but I will say this.

[SPEAKER_00]: I will say this, I do not like seeing people from out of town talking about talking about New York politics like they know anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know anything.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to have a hard time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to have a hard time.

[SPEAKER_00]: It will not end New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: It will not run.

[SPEAKER_00]: The millionaires aren't going anywhere.

[SPEAKER_00]: The millionaires aren't going anywhere, okay?

[SPEAKER_00]: the fact is is New York City has always been too expensive and it's just getting exponentially expensive and you got to figure out a way to stop these some of these landlords from just saying that it's just charging whatever they think they whatever they can get.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not right.

[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, I wish this guy, you know, I'm optimistic because I'm a New Yorker and we've lived through all of it.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've lived through all of them.

[SPEAKER_00]: I personally think this is gonna be John Lindsay 2.0.

[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully it's, which is John Lindsay 2.0 is a lot of smoke and mirrors, not getting much, much done.

[SPEAKER_00]: And John Lindsay was, [SPEAKER_00]: Someone who catered to progressive things without kind of focusing on a lot of, you know, regular people and working class people and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that there's, I think that there, this feels like John Lindsay 2.0, but I'm hoping I'm wrong and look, I hope I'm wrong.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wish I'm best.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wish New York the best.

[SPEAKER_00]: The people of New York will get through this.

[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get through anybody.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it would have gotten through.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that if, if courtesy would have been the mayor, I think it would have been a fucking wreck.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would have been a fucking wreck.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just a crazy cat guy.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he played around in the subways back in the 70s.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't think you would have been, he only would have been effective man.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think, I think you would have been a far less effective mayor.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that, uh, I think that, uh, [SPEAKER_00]: They're Cuomo's scum.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think Cuomo's scum.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that these whole family, these whole family things.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's enough.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, we don't retire to all these like legacy politician families.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's so you're not entitled.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're not entitled to [SPEAKER_00]: And you as the viewer, I have to understand that they work for you, they don't be a fan of that.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hold them no count.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hold them no count.

[SPEAKER_00]: My mother was kind of available to let me talk to me on John Lindsay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I said these things.

[SPEAKER_00]: She'd be furious.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you've got to hold people to count.

[SPEAKER_00]: So at the same time, however, you've got to hold people to count, but at the same time, get the guy a chance.

[SPEAKER_00]: outside of New York yo you don't fucking you know I don't I don't I don't I have no interest in what you have to say because you haven't been lived through the garbage you've had and once you lived through the garbage we had then talk to me okay all right I've said enough [SPEAKER_00]: That's, you gotta see it through the lens of garbage, okay?

[SPEAKER_00]: The lens of garbage.

[SPEAKER_00]: With that said, New York City is a greatest city on earth.

[SPEAKER_00]: This was a love letter to the city of New York, the great city of New York.

[SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of who's running it, I believe in the people, I believe in the city of New York, the city that I love the most, the greatest city on the one earth.

[SPEAKER_00]: And will I run it again?

[SPEAKER_00]: Will it run the New York Sea marathon again?

[SPEAKER_00]: My wife seems to think I will.

[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't have any thoughts on it right now at all I don't even want to think about it But you know when I turn 55 maybe maybe I might get the itch again.

[SPEAKER_00]: You never know you never know But with that said guys [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for all the support.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't here last week.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was like going on and I'm looking forward to another another episode another few things.

[SPEAKER_00]: We got some good things going on and we will see you next week, alright?

[SPEAKER_00]: Craig take it away