A global criminal conspiracy, a prince, a jailed social aide, and a billionaire who may or may not have been murdered.

Welcome to the world of the Jeffrey Epstein.

The Prince and the Pervert podcast journalists Lisa and Jan bring you the ultimate deep dive.

Hello, and welcome to The Prince and the Pervert Podcast.

My name is Lisa Tate, and here I have with me Jen Taran.

Hello, Jen.

Hello everyone.

Wow, last week was a week, wasn't it.

Jen.

You're going to drill down into the details of Gallaine's twenty year sentence.

I certainly am.

And I'm going to talk about who is also in the crosshairs of the lawyers and the survivors, and then I'm going to read out Galai Maxwell's full statement that she read to the court.

Jen, you'll have to get in character.

There'll be a few sarcastic words or tones.

Now she's convicted and jailed and sentenced sex offender.

It's amazing, isn't it.

It's about time.

Yeah, it's been a long, long road for the survivors.

They must just be relieved.

They were all happy.

So when people were saying to me, oh, it's not long enough.

My opinion is if the survivors are content with that, well that's no problem for me.

And we were in contact with survivors during that hearing, and yes, a static yeah, something has happened.

It may not have been what they really wanted, but it's a step in the right direction.

And she's accountable Jen, even though in her statement it shows that she doesn't believe she's done anything wrong.

And that brother of hers, Ian with the interesting financials, he was in the spectator writing extremely offensive things about the US judicial system, how it's medieval, uncivilized.

He may have financial criminal charges of his own, maybe possibly due to that box of documents in the Jersey Islands.

Yes, hashtag lahog.

So let's look at the judgment in this case.

It has been lodged and it gives all the details about her sentence and her host prison release.

So she was sentenced to a term of two hundred and forty months, which we know is twenty years.

So count three, which was conspiracy to transport minors with intent to engage in criminal activities, and that was from ninety four to oh four, she got five years for that.

Now for count four, which was transportation of a minor with intent to engage in criminal activity.

That was from years ninety four to ninety seven.

She got ten years for that.

Count six which was trafficking of a minor, which was two thousand and one to two thousand and four, and that was all minor victim four Caroline she got twenty years.

Now all these counts are to run concurrently, which means it's twenty years.

She is going to Danbury, which a lot of people have said is a bit of a garden party prison.

It's where Teresa Judais, who is a real housewife of New Jersey, she went there for fraud chargers.

So I'm quite familiar with a HARKing lot of the jail from when Housewives were filming the Family going to visit, and of course it was also the base of Orange Is the New Black.

Now Galaiden Maxwell's team asked if she could go to this particular prison, and I don't think it was just because it's an hour drive away from Glen and Eva Juban's house.

Now, of course, Eva, as you all know, was Epstein's long term girlfriend for about eleven years and Glenn Juban is her husband and he used to own a hedge fund.

We're talking billionaire.

But the reason why they wanted that one not just because it's fairly easy, but because it's one of two prisons that has a FIT program.

And the judge said on the imprisonment sheet, defendant to be considered for enrollment in FIT program now.

The FIT program started in two and seventeen and this is from the Bureau of Prisons website.

Women in prison have different treatment needs than men.

In support of those treatment needs, the Federal Bureau of Prisons has activated a new Gender responsive Integrated Treatment program at Danbury.

For the first time, an entire BURO facility will operate as a therapeutic community, allowing women at the low security institution a range of programs and services offered simultaneously to meet their individual needs.

Once activated, the FIT program will serve approximately two hundred inmates and be staff with three psychologists, four treatments specialists, a social worker, and a unit team.

The FIT program is an evidence based approach designed to ensure that each participant has an individually tailored treatment plan and receives a full range of services to address their needs.

The program will combine three psychology treatment programs, including the Residential Drug Abuse program into a single integrated therapeutic community.

Women not actively in need of mental health, substance use or trauma treatment may focus on work related goals and providing peers support.

So that's what Gallaine wants.

Now.

This program is also provided at Hazelton, which is also a low security prison.

So it's my belief her lawyers asked for this program for Galaine so that they can use it as a wedge in their appeal that she was traumatized by her family, by her father.

She had such a bad upbringing that she just fell under Epstein's spell and had no idea of the harm she was causing.

I think this is part of their appeal process, and getting the judge to say yes, she needs to go to FIT sort of adds to it.

I suppose now that FIT program she'll have to do five hundred hours, but that's singers.

She's got twenty years to do it.

Now.

In the federal sentencing arena, she must serve eighty five percent of her sentence.

That knocks it down to seventeen years.

I also believe that they will take off any time already served, so we're looking at about fifteen years before she gets out, which makes her about seventy six.

But then the kicker is the five years supervised release program.

She's going to have a probation officer.

She won't be allowed near any schools, she won't be allowed near any area where young children or those under eighteen congregate.

So at any stage her probation officer can ask to see the contents of her vehicle, her papers, her computer, any electronic communication.

She cannot incur new credit charges or open additional lines of credit without the approval of her probation officer.

And she must not have any contact with the victims.

In this case, this includes any physical, visual, written, or telephonic contact with such persons.

Additionally, you must not directly cause or encourage anyone else to have such contact with the victims.

That's an interesting bit.

I wonder how long that will hold up.

Now, for that five years of supervised release, she was sentenced for a term of three years on counts three and four and five years on counts six to run again concurrently, So that's where they get the five years of her supervised release from She also copped a fine of seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

There is no indication of when that money is due.

But one of the mandatory conditions is number four.

You must make restitution in accordance with eighteen USC and any other statute authorizing a sentence of restitution.

You must cooperate in the collection of DNA as directed by the probation officer.

And you must comply with the requirements of the Sex Offenders Registry and Notification as directed by the Probation Officer, the Bureau of Prisons, or any such sex offender registration agency in the location where you reside work, are a student, and she has to refrain from any unlawful use of controlled substances.

You must submit to a drug test within fifteen days of release from imprisonment and at least two periodic drug tests thereafter or determined by the court.

The first condition is that you must not commit another federal, state, or local crime.

So now we'll go back to the sentencing for a moment, and one of the names that hovered above this sentence in hearing was Sarah Kelen, now known as Sarah Vickers.

She was Gallaine Maxwell's second in charge, but during Gallaine Maxwell's hearing, Judge Allison Nathan said Kelen was criminally responsible in the Epstein sex trafficking scheme, and witnesses at the trial testify that Kelen scheduled sexualized sex abuse massages with the dead financier Jeffrey Epstein.

So what will happen to Sarah Kelen from now on?

Is she the next person in the pyramid?

We don't know, but lawyers have said that they're going to be putting some focus on her now.

These lawyers include Brad Edwards, who is a Florida lawyer and he represents a lot of the survivors.

Whether it's going to be criminal or civil, we don't know yet.

I have a great scoop coming on Sarah Kellen, and I'm going to work on it all week, and we'll have it for you here first and exclusively.

Because she's heavily involved.

No matter what you say about her guilt, her innocence, her status as an enighbler, an employee, or a victim as some have tried to paint her, she was heavily heavily involved.

But it's not just Kelen they're looking at either.

We'll go on to that in a second, but I just wanted to let you know.

Josie Ensaw from the UK Telegraph had a great article on the weekend about what now what about Kelen because there's been a whole lot of content, But there was so much discussion in that sentencing hearing of Sarah Kelen and about her culpability as the second in charge certainly was, and of course they've also raised a few other names.

And let's just say, I doubt Prince Andrew will be game enough to go to the US for a while.

No, you can all sleep soundly, American friends.

They may not be able to bring criminal charges against these other people, but Brad Edwards did say civil chargers Sarah Kelen.

It is recognized that she may have received compensation from the Epstein fund, so she does have money, and she was also transferred money from Epstein just before his death.

Yes that was two hundred and fifty thousand.

So I don't think she can sleep well either.

And maybe she will never be held to account in a criminal sense, but certainly in a civil court it seems likely.

Because the thing is, you do not underestimate these survivors.

These survivors have been the driving force in getting DELAYE Maxwell into a courtroom and now into prison.

Absolutely, whatever happens with Sarah Kelen.

We will follow it closely, and now let's go and read Galayine Maxwell's statement to the court.

I am going to try my heart as not to put too much of a sarcastic tone on it, and next week I'll come back and talk about some of the inconsistencies that she has brought up in her statement.

Lies lies, Lies, Lies, your honor.

It is hard for me to address the court after listening to the pain and anguish expressed in the statements made today.

The terrible impact on the lives of so many women is difficult to hear and even more difficult to absorb, both in its scale and extent.

I acknowledge their suffering and empathize deeply with all the victims in this case.

I also acknowledge that I have been convicted of helping Jeffrey Epstein commit these crimes.

And despite the many helpful and positive things I have done in my life and will continue to do to assist others.

During my sentence, I know that my association with Epstein and this case will forever and permanently stain me.

It is the greatest regret of my life that I ever met Jeffrey Epstein.

I have had plenty of time to think, having spent two years in solitary confinement, I believe that Jeffrey Epstein was a manipulative, cunning, and controlling man who lived a profoundly compartmentalized life and fooled all those in his orbit.

Variously, his victims considered him a godfather, mentor, benefactor, friend, lover.

It is unfathomable today to think that that is how he was viewed contemporaneously.

His impact on all those who were close to him has been ever stating, and today those who even knew him briefly or never met him, but were associated with someone who did have lost relationships, jobs, and had their lives derailed.

Jeffrey Epstein should have been here before all of you.

He should have stood before you years ago, in two thousand and five, in two thousand and nine, and again in two thousand and nineteen, all the many times he was accused, charged, prosecuted.

He should have spared victims the years of chasing justice.

But today is ultimately not about Epstein.

It is for me to be sent and for the victims to address me alone in court.

To you, I say, I am sorry for the pain you experienced.

I hope my conviction, along with my harsh incarceration, brings you closure.

I hope this brings the women who have suffered some measure of peace and finality to help you pulled the experiences of those so many years ago in a place that allows you to look forward and not back.

I also acknowledge the pain this case has wrought to those I love, the many I held and still hold close, the relationships I have lost and will never be able to regain.

It is my sincerious wish to all those in this courtroom and all those outside, that this day brings a terrible chapter to an end.

And to those of you who spoke here today and those who did not, may this day help you travel from darkness into light.

Gilaine Maxwell, June twenty eight, thank you so much for joining us again today.

It is not over.

No, by any means, this is not over, but we do appreciate you turning up week after week to listen to us.

And we're an independent podcast team, aren't we.

Jen We don't have big people behind us, so we really appreciate our audience.

Well, just day, our middle aged intern with the posh English accent thinks she's a big person, but she's not really, So it's goodbye from me, and it's goodbye from me.

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Okay, stay safe everyone, thank you, Bye bye bye, Hello bitches and everybody else.

Yes, I'm quite looking forward to Gilaine going to a little farm prison.

Anyway, Today the shout out is to a special fella called El Presidente who took over my terror mar Yes he did.

Anyway, I've heard you've got the spicy cough there in Hawaii.

M I hope you choke on your tissues.

So everyone just barger off.

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