A global criminal conspiracy, a prince, a jailed socialite, and a billionaire who may or may not have been murdered.

Welcome to the world of the Jeffrey Epstein.

The Prince and the Pervert podcast.

Journalists Lisa and Jan bring you the ultimate deep dive.

Hello and welcome to The Prince and the Pervert Podcast.

My name is Lisa Tate and with me today as always is Jen Tarrant.

Hello, Jen, Hello Lisa.

How are you going?

I am very well.

I had an interesting weekend, but we'll go into that a bit later.

How are you and what do you have for us today?

Well, today we've got a bit of a breakdown of how the Jeffrey Epstein estate is going, and also about Galaid Maxwell's appeal.

Wow, what's she going to do when she stops with appeal avenues?

Go to the un?

Well, they already have gone to the un, haven't they?

The whole family has I think?

Yeah, I don't know who could she go to after the un The Pope?

Isn't she Jewish?

True?

Santa Claus?

What about Santa Claus tooth Fairy?

So yes, you can go to the tooth Fairy or Santa Claus and ask for another appeal and they might give you a banana.

Boom boom.

Sorry, Okay, so you are going to talk about what's going on with Epstein's Paris apartment and the estate, gen, because you know a lot about that little parcel of property.

I certainly do know about the Paris apartment because we broke the news last November that the Paris apartment was for sale with Sotheby's.

Sotheby's denied it lies, but of course we could prove it with all the photos we had of Epstein's butler inside that apartment.

According to Matthew Goldstein from the New York Times, the Epstein estate ladies quarterly accounting, the estate holdings are valued at one hundred and forty nine point five million at the end of June, and the Paris apartment sold for four million dollars.

Now that was originally listed for four times that value.

So what has happened there?

I'd be very interested to know.

And we have a content now who can track down property in France for US Jen.

That is really interesting, Jen, because the Epstein estate started out with about six hundred million US dollars.

They do say that the estate has paid out one hundred and fifty three million to victims, sorry, survivors, it should say from the settlement fund and outside the fund.

Now, I do know that several survivors were paid after the fund closed, and they also are civil cases as well proceeding.

That's right.

The difference between what the Paris apartment was for sale and what they eventually got, that's strange.

It's a huge decrease in value.

Absolutely.

Is it a case possibly of money laundering?

Did it go for a bigger price?

But that's all that's on the papers.

Well, Jen, I am trying to educate myself in the area of money laundering.

And one thing I know is property is a magnificent asset to have.

So is artwork really, Jen, which is why the Virgin Islands have subpoened an art transportation company.

Do you remember when you've found that development application for the New York mansion and he had some kind of a special area put aside for art transportation.

I also found paperwork for a massive package being delivered from France which included chairs of all things.

We also know Gallaine Maxwell's property has sold again, and what they did was they painted the entire place virtually completely in white cover up the stains of the red she loved.

Well.

When it comes to the Arris apartment, they were very secretive and they lied.

And because once this story's come out, it's come alive.

Perhaps people didn't want to buy it, but they were going to find out eventually who owned it.

So that could be one reason why it was so cheap.

Another reason could be the amount of ghosts that you need to chase out of there all the sage.

It's beautiful, but you need to do a lot of work on that, partly because of Gallaine's interior decoration, some of the rooms were incredibly bad, and not just the red rooms we're talking about, not just his study, so not only that, not only the notorious previous owner.

It may have been quite an effort, but I want to know who bought it and why it went for about a quarter of the price it was originally listed for.

With Southby's that off the mark.

I doubt it.

We shall see.

So are you up for a little spice, some rumor, and some medium manipulation.

I love a good dedcat story.

Now it's going to get a little risk gay today, and that's not by my choosing.

So if you've got kids in the car or are uncomfortable about discussions around sex.

You may want to skip this, but my story starts with a peg, a turnip and a dead cat.

There's also a moron in the background, Prince Andrew allegedly.

Now it starts with one tweet.

I saw there was a hashtag on Twitter, hashtag Prince of pegging.

I was like, what is that, Jen, what is going on?

It went crazy and then it was hashtag Prince William affair.

Now that second part is very important because Jen and I first heard about this on Twitter in two thousand and nineteen.

It is important to this case because around that time you will see Meghan mark Hall becoming a ruse for Prince Andrew.

A bit later on, but Prince William who had an affair allegedly, and we've known about this affair for a long time.

It seems that the British press won't talk about it, but here in Australia we've about it for ages.

Apparently they've been legal threats.

People in the UK love sending out legal threats.

Yes, they do, and they're designed particularly for people like Prince William, the rich and the powerful.

So since this very first episode of this podcast, Jen and I've been talking about deadcatting, which is the practice of making a mess so people look over there and they ignore your issues.

Distraction.

Distraction.

So I put this tweet out not thinking much of it because I'm always talking about deadcatting being a former crisis communication practitioner, but also I was an academic, So I put this tweet out.

I didn't think anything of it Sunday morning, and it says hate to say it, but we told you about the Royals dead catting, Megan.

The thing is, we in Australia knew about the hashtag Prince William of fair Way before the most in the UK, but we didn't know about the pegging, just the turnip.

Honestly, Jen, I just wrote it and didn't think anything more about it, because, in my opinion, I don't care if Prince William engages in extramarital affairs.

I don't care if he likes a quote a bit of pegging.

Define, please, Jen, when the female partner uses a strap on on the male partner.

It's more common than people would believe.

I think it got such a life because the alliteration of hashtag Prince of pegging exactly.

But I do care if Megan's being used as a human shield against his bad behavior.

She's been a dead cat.

Don't people care that the image of Prince William and his wife Katherine as a happy, perfect family.

It's a little bit rough around the edges.

She may know that it's an open relationship and that's fine.

I don't have a judgment, but I think there's absolutely more to it, because back in two and nineteen we heard about the turnip and she was close friends with Katherine.

Yes, so what is a turnip, you may ask.

It is a term, an absolutely brilliant term that could only be created by the English.

A turnip toff is a wealthy person from Norfolk, which is where they all hang out.

So enter Missus Turnip.

Now Missus Turnip is also known as Rose Hanbury aka Missus rock Savage.

So Rose Hanbury is known as the Marchioness of Chumley and you should see how it's spelt.

That's the other thing that opened my eyes.

So there was a breakdown in her relationship with Kate.

It was mentioned in the Sun a couple of years ago, but we've heard nothing else except on Twitter.

But there have been quite a few legal threats.

I don't know if that's true or not.

Now, let's get back to this for a second.

Deadcat's strategy.

It's where Megan is being used as a human shield for not only Prince William's behavior, but also Prince Andrew's.

So I think this is important.

You may be saying I'm not very interested in this Royal stuff.

It is because it shows how their medium machine works.

It got to the point every time a Meg story hit the lines, we started searching for Prince Andrew, we knew something was about to blow up.

Yes, because in my opinion, the Royals are gangsters with posh accents.

They did the same to Virginia Roberts.

Gefrey, a friend of theirs in the media call her a prostitute.

A Royal reporter called children prostitutes, and she doubled down on it and then blocked us.

I want to give you another example why the Royals play hard and fasted the truth.

Julia Baird wrote a book about Queen Victoria.

She's an Australian journalist and a historian.

She had to apply for permission to go and see the Royal files at Windsor.

She kept getting knocked back and had to have a recommendation by a former Australian Governor General.

So she went in and had a look at them, and she didn't get her hands on everything.

But the most controversial thing that the Royals wanted taken out of her book was about Queen Victoria having an affair with the servant, and apparently Queen Victoria as doctor saw this John Brown's servant whoop up Queen Victoria's skirt one day.

They didn't think he was looking, so come on.

But it's a legacy making.

Speaking of legacy, so we know that the royal family's surname now is Mountbatten windsor On behalf of Prince Philip, he just died, the father of Prince Charles, and that moron in the background, Prince Andrew.

They had an uncle by the name of Lord Louis Mountbatten and he was the last living great grandchild of Queen Victoria.

So it's all linked.

And we spoke about Mountbatten in one of our earliest episodes as well, because the FBI thought he was a pedophile exactly.

There's an article in the Conversation by Jenny Hocking from Monash University who's said Louis Mountbatten had a Rasputan like influence on Elizabeth and Prince Philip.

Isn't that fascinating?

So obviously his letters and his wife's letters are of great historical input.

Only that he was a Viceroy of India, so an English leader there, and he was also involved in World War Two, and he was really close to Prince Charles, very close.

He was a terrible, terrible human.

Apparently he was the most pathetic bore.

There were lots of comments made about him that never had anyone made so much of so little royal blood.

We've got this archive that belongs to the mount Batons.

They were given three million UK pounds of public money to make these public through Southampton University.

Do you think they did?

It's under lock and key.

Well bits are out now, but it took four years and a historian had to use hundreds of thousands of his own money to pursue them in court to get them unlocked.

Yes, where they were meant to be out in public.

Because there's a contentious period nineteen forty seven to forty eight.

The royals don't want out put that aside.

They're trying to hide a lot of things and Megan, who's a feminist, who is by racial and a woman.

She's perfect.

Because there's another rumor.

Now, this is a rumor I heard on Twitter.

Apparently Megan told Katherine or Kate not to put up with Prince William's cheating.

I think any sister or sister woman would say that, but in the royal family that'd be a crime.

Yeah, it would be, wouldn't it.

So The cut has a wonderful story about how all this drama started.

And I was obviously interested in the prince of pegging, more importantly, the cheating rumors.

I sent out that tweet and it went nuts, jen absolutely insane, and it had two million views.

Now, I write a lot of crap on Twitter, and I know not a lot of people read it sometimes, but that was outstanding.

Went on for about three or four days, so people really wanted to know about the turnip, the dead cat, and the pegging.

Well, hopefully people will have taken away from that tweet the Megan is just a dead cat, and to ignore the crap that's coming out in those tabloids exactly wasn't a yacht girl.

She didn't know Epstein.

That's one of the big ones.

That's flying around at the moment.

That's disgraceful.

She was on TV and she was in high school.

Plenty of photos and records of it.

Look, I know the other girls are in high school, but I don't think Meghan markle met Epstein fire Prince Andrew.

Now Meghan also doesn't look like Prince Andrew's type.

So the Royal Family, they have not commented on the pegging or the turnip or the dead catting.

They don't want to give it life, yes, but what goes on, it's fascinating.

So Meghan's got an army of people called the Sussex Squad, and there's also a Royal Family squad as well, who've been coming for me this week.

And quite frankly, I don't care.

I'm not going to be in a fight with you.

Okay.

I've been ditching their follows left, right and center.

See I hang around you, I get painted with the same brush.

And Jen, We've been watching these people for a very long time because we come from families from the British Isles.

We do an Australia is part of the Commonwealth.

The Queen is still our head of state.

Now, how the pegging rumor started was through the gossip site do MOI Have you come across them?

Chen, Yes, I have.

They're a famous blind item site, but they don't check anything.

They just wrap it in there and send it off.

Someone wrote into them and then they shared it on their Instagram and said that Prince William likes pegging what anyone does in their own bedrooms with someone who can sense be at their spouse or not.

I really don't care, but this is funny considering what they've been doing to Megan Yes and Virginia and so many other survivors.

Okay, so the message said this is so salacious I'm almost too shook to share with you, but will anyway.

The British Royals extramarital affair is an open secret in London, talk of every party, in every news desk.

At a recent media party, I was told the real reason for the affair was the Royals love of pegging.

I'm not going to go any further.

I'll put a link to this article in the show notes.

I don't want to speculate on what Prince William may or may not be doing.

So apparently Kate wanted to excommunicate Rosehanbury from their circle but because they're aristocrats, they don't take fidelity as seriously as the middle classes and the working classes.

Jen oh bloody hell.

Now moving on to the moron and the dead catting.

The UK media has been bubbling with stories about Prince Andrew and a terrible photo of him that was taken during that twenty and nineteen terrible BBC interview the train Wreck.

The train wreck, I initially thought was him sweating because of the lights and the pressure, and the person has a propensity in my opinion, to sweat.

But no, apparently it's him giggling his head off during the interview.

So this was edited out of what we saw.

Yes, and it's jaw dropping and he quote laughing his head off, So what was he laughing about.

In July, the BBC photographer Mark Harrison said the picture of Prince Andrew laughing during his Newsnight interview would embarrass the Royals.

At the time, he told The Daily Mail the photo has only been seen by a few people, but it would be a big deal for the Royal family.

There is a lot more from that day that is not yet in the public domain.

So what question or statement was he laughing at?

Then?

I don't know, but it's very reckless to do so in a very serious interview such as that.

Maybe laughing is his defense mechanism.

I have, just like Hugh jen spent many hours pouring over photos of Andrew and videos of Andrew, and I think that's his trademark.

Making a comment and then doing a big, boisterous laugh.

He looks like a donkey when he does it.

He thinks his hysterical eruditet wise, funny, innocent.

So a source told the son that he probably wasn't aware of the consequences of laughing on camera.

That's crap.

He would have been media trained to the nth degree, but he wouldn't listen, and he wouldn't accept counsel I guarantee that ego.

Yes, he's bombastic, don't you think absolutely.

As we reported earlier, Gallaine Maxwell now has a new attorney for her appeal.

Unfortunately, Bobby Sternham has been ditched, probably due to scheduling clashes, so her new lawyer, former New York State Appeals Judge John M.

Leathernthow apologies if I've got that wrong, has requested that they hold off on filing Maxwell's appeal until January thirty next year, and I'll quote I request that the Court permit me to file appellants brief on Monday Jan thirty, twenty twenty three, for the following reasons, which I believe satisfy both preconditions identified by the rule.

First, as noticed, I am new counsel and have obtained access to the complete file on this case only this week.

As new counsel unfamiliar with the case, I must therefore scrutinize the entire record in order to provide my client with the most competent and effective representation on appeal.

Second, the record is voluminous in that involves at least three thousand, eight hundred and twenty four pages of transcript including pretrial hearings, VOYA dire trial sentence and post conviction proceedings.

In addition, the docket report consists of seven hundred and thirty eight entries, including but not limited to, dozens of fully briefed pretrial motions and motions in LIMNU, comprising hundreds of pages of legal analysis on important issues.

Third, I must conduct my own research in order to determine what issues I believe provide my client with the best chance of prevailing on appeal.

This is especially important given this courts rules concerning the size of appellants.

Brief.

Fourth, I have not been able to meet with my client as she was prematurely transferred to Tallahassee, Florida by the Federal Bureau of Prisons over this past weekend.

Now this was approved, so there's going to be nothing really on the appeal until January thirty, when he will file.

Now this means that she's stuck in Florida.

He says that she was prematurely transferred and shouldn't have been possibly until after the appeal.

So I think her family going to start fighting for fighting that she gets brought back.

So that's it for this episode.

We'll be back soon, and I've got some more Dershevitz.

That's everyone's favorite nude volleyballer, former lawyer of Epstein trump O j quite a few men, Yes, I wonder how many women he's represented.

Good point, shout out dersh Anyway, everyone stays safe and we'll see you soon.

Thank you so much.

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