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Here's your host, Jeff Nado.

What's up, everybody, and welcome into another edition of The sit Down.

I am your host, Jeff Nayd.

This is episode two and twenty five of the podcast.

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What's going on, everybody?

How we doing?

How are we doing?

Voice is a little different this week.

I think I called myself a little bit of a cold over the weekend.

I was over at the Jersey Shore for a night and I was out and I think I called a little something.

But you know, hopefully the vitamin D, the vitamin C, drink of water, getting some sunlight, Hopefully that helps me knock on wood.

Hopefully you're having a great week wherever you are.

Got a good show planning for you today as always.

You know, it's funny I talk about prison a lot on this channel.

You know, I've I've never been to prison, but you know, one time an inmate told me, a former inmate of convict told me that, you know, I've never saw a person that knew more about prison that's never been to prison, and I took that as kind of a a badge of courage, badge of honor.

I appreciated that, and I find prison to be interesting.

And you know, we had Eric King on who was at ad X, and I've always been asked, you know, who is at ad X right now?

So I'm gonna talk about that a little bit today.

I'm gonna highlight about ten or so dudes that are in eighty X right now.

We're gonna talk a little bit about that.

I want to kind of give you a rundown on kind of what we have coming up here on the show.

I do want to thank Officer Bill Hunter coming on last week.

I had so many people that reached out to me about last week's episode, and I've been trying to get Bill on for a long time and I was able to connect with him through a guy we had on a couple of weeks ago, Jason White from Tulsa, and I got Bill's book and I'm just super interested in Bill.

I think he's a really interesting guy.

He's one of the most decorated officers in the Philadelphia Police department.

And I think what's cool is we've got a couple of cool.

Things lined up for me and Bill down the road.

So that's something to kind of look forward to.

Next week.

I've got a good episode.

I'm gonna do a deep dive in El Mayo Sambada, who made news this week pleading guilty to drug trafficking charges.

Elmayo at one point was the biggest drug trafficker on the planet, an elusive.

Guy, been around like fifty years.

In the drug trade.

And what we're gonna do is we're gonna go through a little bio.

We're gonna talk about the plea deal, kind of what it means, what will happen, Ol Mile will he talk all that stuff.

So I'm gonna bring on an expert with that, and I think I'm gonna bring on one of our friends, Stefano Rittendell.

He was on a couple of weeks ago, we talked about some of the major cartel arrests.

He's kind of one of my favorites to talk about the drug cartel world with.

So we'll have him on next week.

All sorts of news and yeah, I mean just kind of rocking and rolling.

I am working on possibly some interviews.

I had a guy reach out to me recently that is currently incarcerated and is connected to one of the five families.

Not a cooperator, so we'll see.

I don't know where that's going.

We have communicated a little bit, so we'll see.

But before we get into the episode this week, I want to talk about little news.

We actually had some news over the last twenty four hours.

It looks like someone has been arrested in connection with the nineteen ninety nine cold case.

Of Gino Marconi in Philadelphia.

Now, as you know, if you follow mob content, mob stuff, mob history, you know that there are multiple cold cases connected to the Philly mob that are just sitting out there, whether it's Johnny Gons, whether it's long John Martrono, whoever.

That Gina Marconi is one of those people.

Though according to Philadelphia law enforcement, a person was arrested yesterday called Richard Lighty.

Now I want to talk about the Marconi hit.

I want to talk about theories, and I also want to talk a little bit about Richard Lighty, who actually does have some connections to the under When you look at Gina Marconi, his father, his I believe uncle were made members in the Philly Mob.

His father was a person called Guarno Marconi.

His uncle Funsie Marconi was also.

A made member.

They were made in the early sixties.

They were in Nicky Buck Piccolo's crew at one point and obviously during the Angelo Bruno regime, so you know, Marconi goes back pretty deep in the Philly Mob.

Gino Marconi was a drug dealer, and the thought was he was whacked because he wasn't kicking up enough to elsn and his hit was actually pretty theatrical.

He was taken out on April tenth, nineteen ninety nine, outside of his home in the area of twentieth and Porter, which is in Gerarda State.

It's not far from Philip Testa's home which had that historical nail bomb.

If we remember, he was actually shot with a sniper rifle.

There was some sort of van that sat up the block waiting for him to come out, and he was taken out as he came out.

Of his house.

His girlfriend, a woman called Patricia Miley, was also wounded.

Now about a year ago, if you follow Dave Shratweiser, he he did a podcast on this hit and they had this cop on and They talked about how they believed that the Boston faction of the Philly Mob was a part of taking out Gino Marconi, which, according to what we found out yesterday, that is completely and utterly untrue.

Now the name Richard Lighty comes up, because again yesterday comes out that Lighty was arrested by fully homicide.

Lighty's sixty years old, Okay.

Now, remember this is something that happened twenty six years ago.

So Lighty's sixty.

You know he was in his thirties when he allegedly committed this.

Now, Lighty, I'll point out, and this comes from my living in South Philadelphia at one point.

I know the name Lighty.

There's a lot of Lighty's around.

I know there's kind of the younger kids, you know, whether that be the son of Richard Lightighty.

There's some Lighty's that I've heard of.

I don't necessarily know them.

I've heard the name, though, Lighty is a definite name that I've heard around South Philadelphia.

Now I did some digging on this.

I looked into some newspaper stuff, like archive stuff, which I use occasionally when looking up names that I've not seen connected, like Lighty's not a name that I know that's connected necessarily to It's not like a Joey Millino name or John VIZI like Lighty's kind of an unknown name.

But I did find an article from the Philly Deily News from Kitty Caparella, who did a lot of work with the Philly Mob.

Joey Molino's mentioned her.

In nineteen ninety nine.

There were members of the Junior Black Mafia TRM Picard and Markwan Gordon.

That TRM Picard is an itching name because we've heard Trump Picard's name connected to not only Joeyan Milino, but Roger Vella actually flipped on Joey Milino and Trump Picard and Trump Picard is doing life because of Roger Vella.

Picard is the is a member of the JBM Junior Black Mafia, which is a black drug dealing group in parts of Philadelphia.

His brother J.

C.

Picard was a big timer in that group.

Now, there are.

Notions out there that Joy Millino and Trumpcard were close.

In fact, Trumpcard at one point was viewed on surveillance visiting Joy Mollino at his home in South Philadelphia, so they definitely knew each other.

Now in terms of Lighty Trump Pecard was eventually arrested for robbing drug dealers, and Caperella reported that they were giving, according to her, a share of their street tax at Jerry Millino.

Caperella would then note that Picard and Markwan Gordon were under investigation for robbing Richard Lighty, who again drug dealer in the nineties, but Ltti would not cooperate with authorities.

So you know, Lighty's a guy that you know in the nineties the late nineties was selling drugs.

Okay, he was connected to the Philly Mob.

His father was in the mob.

His uncle was in the mob, or terms of Marconi, so you know Marconi knew was doing selling drugs.

Lighty was selling drugs.

They knew each other.

It definitely makes sense now the New England Philly faction.

That's not true.

I don't believe that at all.

People like Scott Bernstein to push that rumor not true.

This Lighty thing is interesting though, because Lighty was a drug dealer.

Lottie was being shaken down probably at some point, and he was probably robbed at one point by the JBM.

They all moved in the same circles.

Are there people in the Philly Mob, right now that are concerned about Lighty.

Maybe, I mean, we have heard that Gino Marconi was taken out because of not kicking up.

Could also have been a beat that Lightighty had with Marconi and then has no connection to the Philly mob.

But look, the truth of the matter is, and I know people don't want to hear this, but the truth of the matter is.

Philadelphia, South Philly is not big.

Okay, and in the nineties, okay, if a mob associate is killed, obviously you would assume that the mob had something to do with it.

And Gino Marconi was a mob associate, he was a drug dealer, he was connected, So this would be interesting.

Now what's fascinating is twenty six years ago Richard Lighty did not cooperate.

Willie.

Now who knows, maybe maybe not, Nobody really knows.

Now there is a small other notion here is that this could be a different Richard Lighty, but I doubt it.

I mean, that's not exactly John Smith or John Taylor or something.

It's not a real common name Richard Lighty.

It makes sense age wise here, so an interesting cold case.

These are all things that if you're a Philly mobster today, you don't want these to happen because again, all they need is one person to do some damage here.

So I don't know, we'll see.

It's an interesting story, nonetheless, so we'll keep track.

As that was going on there, there was also some news at of Philadelphia as well.

Carl Chianaise died.

Carlch Andese was spending time at federal prison.

He is a Philly mob guy as well.

He was arrested about ten years ago for selling narcotics with Joseph video.

He died in prison hospital recently at the age of eighty five.

He was doing ten years for selling math, heroin and fent.

He goes back pretty deep.

I mean he was selling drugs in the nineties with bikers, and I know he knew long Joy Martroroto.

You know, a criminal his whole life.

Carl Chenie's a typical South Philly guy.

Connected, never made but you know, this guy's selling drugs his whole life.

He's been a cancer to society for years.

He took his last breath recently.

Carl Chenie's dead at the age of eighty five.

Let's move on to the show this.

Week, and I wanted to kind of introduce you guys to this show because I get asked all the time about the eighty X and the ady X is such a mythical, interesting place for people that you know, don't know anything about it, but I talk more about it.

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Let's get into it.

Notorious prisoners right now the EIGHTX.

Let's talk about it on the sit down.

Before we get into the inmates at Florence, I want to give you a little history on the institution.

Now it's commonly known as Florence Supermax and it was constructed EIGHTYX in nineteen ninety four.

A lot of people aren't aware that at the time, in the late eighties, there was a major problem that the Bureau of Prisons had.

They needed something more secure than USP Marion, which at the time was the most secure federal prison in America.

The problem in the mid eighties, in the same day they had two CEOs attacked by multiple inmates, and the warden and then the superintendent to be ap the person that runs it, said we need something more secure.

It would be built and EIGHTYX would open in nineteen ninety five.

Of the end of twenty twenty four, EIGHTYX would have a population of about three hundred and forty four inmates.

Now, there is several things before we get into the inmates that I do want to also talk about.

There are various units inside eight X, including EH Unit, which is for Sam's prisoners, the worst prisoners in that that are not allowed human contact.

That sort of thing.

There's also an elderly unit.

There's a place called C unit.

There are all sorts of different units, as well as Range thirteen, which is quite infamous.

This is what a cell or a normal cell looks like at ADX.

Some though don't have showers, some don't have shelves underneath the bed.

These aren't every cell.

There is also a window as you can see.

Some are frosted, some are not.

The most notorious inmate at ADX Flawence is Joaquin Guzman aka l Chopo.

Now, according to the federal government, the world will tell you that mister Guzman is the leader of this loyal cartel.

While that is somewhat true, it's not completely true.

He is one of the leaders of the sin of loyal cartel and one of the reasons that al Chopo is at ADX is due to his consistent prison escapes.

He has been involved in multiple prison escapes in Mexico and has been at ADX since mid twenty nineteen.

He has whined and complained in various letters to the judge in his case about the conditions there and that he has been unable to have any sort of contact with his immediate family.

One of the problems that persists for mister Gooseman is the fact that a he has so many prison escapes and he really.

Has all the resources in the world.

No one has ever escaped from ADX, and if there was one person that could probably.

Do it, it's Al Chopo.

It won't happen though, because of the conditions that he has to be under.

One person I spoke to recently that did not want to be named would tell me that El tie Chappo will never get off eight unit.

He'll be on eight Unit his entire life.

Now I mentioned eh unit at the ADX Supermax.

Eighth unit is for Sam's prisoners.

Essentially, judges have ordered them that they have to be under special administrative measures.

It basically means that they cannot play well with others anywhere else and that they are major risks to a either cause problems from inside prison, outside of prison, and anywhere else.

Now, not every person in the ADX is under eight unit.

That said El Chapo currently is.

Tyler Bingham is one of the most notorious federal prisoners inside ADYX and at seventy seven years old, he has been at the institution since two thousand and six.

According to the federal government, Tyler Bingham is the creator of a group called the Federal Aryan Brotherhood, and in the early two thousands, while serving life in prison, he was convicted on multiple racketeering accounts involving his leadership in the AB.

He's an old man at this point, but will never get off no human contact status.

He has a lot a lot.

Of influence in the federal system and if you know anything about the Arian Brotherhood, they are the most powerful both federal prison gang and state prison gang in California and areas of Texas.

The AB has major abilities to green light anyone inside the prison system.

Now, the Federal Aaron Brotherhood had a group and a charter at the top that included Bingham at one point that basically handled all of the administrative duties for the AB.

There are mobsters inside eighty X.

One of them is James Little Jimmy Marcello.

Now.

Marcelo is eighty one years old and is said to be currently on the elderly unit inside ADYX.

Now.

At one point, Marcelo was the alleged boss of the Chicago Outfit aka the Mafia in Chicago.

He'd be indicted in two thousand and five on racketeering and murder charges, including the deaths of Tony and Michael Spilatro, among others.

In two thousand and nine, he was sentenced to life and was placed in ADX.

Now, a lot of people have stated over the years as to why mister Marcelo is in ADX.

Most of the people that we talk about, there's a reason they're there.

They've escaped from prison, they've ordered hits from prison, they can't play well with others anywhere else.

Marcelo, though, it's somewhat unclear as to why he's in eighty X.

The only gleaming light that we can gain from as to why he's there would have to do with the situation that he was in during his final days of his court case.

Right after his sentencing in two thousand and nine, he was He's originally sent to be incarcerated at USP Atwater in California.

However, the US Attorney's Office in Chicago ordered him returned to the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Chicago to be present for a legal matter involving his appeal process.

Now, without Judge Zegel's permission, they transferred him back to atwater.

In February of twenty twelve, the judge angrily demanded that Marchella be brought back to Chicago to help his attorney with his penning appeal.

Arguments in his appeal were scheduled several days later, and Zego acknowledged the tight turnaround as he publicly excoriated the federal government for transferring Marcello out of Chicago without his permission.

That James Zego would state, quote, I don't even know how they're going to get him back, referring to the GOP, but they're going to get him back because that's my order.

He will remain here until I order him released.

So is Marcello in eighty X.

Just because the judges pissed off at him and his lawyers possibly and the government.

I don't really know.

That said, He's still there and likel will remain there until his death.

This is Marcello in better times for himself as he could be seen with fellow Chicago gangsters.

As I said, Marcella is one of the oldest people in eighty X at eighty one years old.

Before we move on to the next inmate, I do want to talk about a story that Eric King, the inmate at eighty X, told me in regards to James Marcello over the last several years while in the elderly unit.

According to King, he would tell me that it was common knowledge that Marcello slapped Terry Nichols, a person who was involved with the Oklahoma City bombing in the nineties, and that Nichols was a.

Real irritated guy.

He was constantly snitching on other inmates, and Marchella just got upset and slapped him.

Now, during the interview that I had, King wouldn't be able to remember or he wasn't sure, but I showed him a picture of Marcello and he described what the guy looked like, and we were ventured to believe that it was a mob guy, and he told me it was a mob guy.

He just didn't remember his name.

So Marcello is still a guy who can get irritated, and Nichols may have irritated him at one point.

Another alleged mobster that is currently at ady X is not a made man but an associate, a person called Fodias Gias aka Freddie.

Now Freddie was an associate for the Genevese crime family and a hitter for the Springfield faction of that family.

In Massachusetts, he would take part in various hits and was sentenced to life in prison in the two thousands.

In twenty eighteen, while being housed at USP Hazelton, he would take out former Boston gangster James Waddy Bulger.

Last year, he was given twenty five years on top of his life sentence in the federal system, and he will be at EIGHTYX for the foreseeable future.

Gias is going to have to work hard to ever get out of ADYX.

He is not only a violent killer.

But he is someone who killed one of the most notorious federal prisoners in the system, and the government is going to make an example out of him, regardless of what you think about their role in the case.

Freddie Gias is currently just fifty eight years old and has a long life ahead of him inside the concrete hell that is known as ADX.

In my opinion, Cabani Savage is the most dangerous person in the history of the state of Pennsylvania.

At one point, he was one of the biggest drug traffickers in North phil He ran the area of Hunting Park and had various blocks under his control.

While being a drug trafficker, occasionally you have to engage in violence, and mister Savage did absolutely that.

He was involved in ordering various murders, including hits on other drug traffickers as well as people that he just didn't like, including Tibbi's Flowers in two thousand and four and Kenneth Lasseter in nineteen ninety eight.

Eventually, he was given thirty years for his crimes involving narcotics, but it was in two thousand and six his most infamous involvement in de pray behavior.

Behind a cell at the Federal Detention Center in Philadelphia, Cabani Savage would order the bombing of a home in North Philadelphia on North sixth Street containing the family of a person who was looking to cooperate against Kabani.

From his cell, he would order his sister order her people to do the bombing.

In the end, in two thousand and four, six people, all women and children, including an infant, died in the fire bombing.

Cabani Savage was sentenced to thirteen death sentences in twenty thirteen, as well as a sentence for witness intimidation.

As far as his racketeering murders.

However, in late twenty twenty four, before Joe Biden left office, he would commute mister Savage's death sentence to life without parole.

Now a lot of people excoriated Biden for this move, but in the end, it was actually a more extreme move for Savage.

Living on federal death row is significantly better than living in eighty X.

And from what I understand, mister Savage will never leave eight unit.

He will be there the rest of his life, and he needs nobody else to blame but himself.

If you have any sort of heart for mister Savage, I'll leave you with this.

After a fire bombing where little children burned to death, mister Savage was heard on a wiretap inside his cell saying, quote, they should stop off and get them some barbecue sauce poured on them burnt bitches.

Now, this is a person who said this after the death of little children, that we should send barbecue sauce to their funeral.

Also state that his sister, when she was told that there were kids inside of the house, his sister would respond, quote, fuck them.

That's the legacy of Cabani Savage.

Now they're also terrorists at eighty X, and there are very big and high profile ones including Ramsey, you said, as well as Richard Reid.

This person is one of the youngest people at ADX and his name is Sefulo Thaipov at thirty seven years old.

Saipov is a Usbek national being born in Tashkent, Uzbekistan.

He's a college graduate and a former accountant.

However, in twenty ten he would move to the United States and become a truck driver.

And eventual Uber driver.

He would radicalize and become more involved in the Salafis movement of Islam.

In twenty seventeen, he would rent a truck from home depot and drive it into a bike lane in New York City.

It would kill eight people and injure eleven.

At thirty seven years old.

As I said, Sypov is one of the youngest people in ADX in the prison system.

Another person at ADX currently is Frank James.

Frank James in twenty twenty two would perpetrate an attack inside of New York City subway, resulting in twenty nine people either being injured from gunshot wounds or some of the other materials that mister James used to hurt people.

Luckily no one died.

However, mister James was hit with terrorism charges.

He would fire in his attack thirty two rounds.

He would also discharge multiple explosives.

He is currently pretty old as far as I know, and I believe he's sixty five ish.

You don't have to just take someone out and kill someone to be in the eighty X.

If you're hit with terrorism charges, you're most likely going to spend your time at eighty X.

Frank James is one of those people.

One of the most infamous gang leaders inside eighty X has been there for a long time, and it is Lewis Felipe aka King Blood.

The King Blood was born in nineteen sixty two and would emigrate to America from Cuba in nineteen eighty during the Mario boat lift.

He would spend some time in Chicago and then go to New York City, where it is alleged that he would create the New York City chapter of the Latin Kings.

In nineteen eighty one, Lewis Felipe would get nine years in prison for manslaughter, and while inside the New York State correctional system, he would order multiple murders.

He was eventually placed in eighty X due to what is perceived as major influence still with the group.

There are various gang leaders in ADX, including Lewis Felipe, Larry Hoover, Jeff Fort, and a lot of people have said to me over the years, why are they still there?

What influence do they have?

Well, they've made it clear throughout their times in prison that they cannot play well with others and still.

Have influence on the street.

I'm gonna tell you right now, these people have influence regardless of what you think about it, and the government's not gonna take any chances.

They can't let more innocent people die because as soon as you give one of these people a chance, they generally do you in for it.

Lewis Felipe is sixty two years old.

One of the final people I'm going to talk about is Jesse kN Yuei.

Now, Kan Yuei is not a gangster, He is not a terrorist, he is not a cartel leader, he is not a mobster.

Jesse Konnyuei is really just a low level drug trafficker.

He was born in the Philippines and would move to New York State in nineteen eighty six.

In the early two thousands, while living in Arizona, he would be involved with a drug trafficking group and get eleven years for doing that.

He was also serving a concurrent life sentence that he would serve after the eleven years for taking out someone.

However, while serving his eleven year federal sentence, he was sent to the United States Penitentiary at Canaan in Pennsylvania.

In twenty thirteen, he would kick a correctional officer, Eric Williams down a flight of stairs, stab him two hundred and three times, kick him eleven times, and stomp on his head, resulting in a very sad and depraved death for CEO Williams.

Jesse Konyuei would eventually say why he did what he did.

He would stay quote that fool disrespected me.

His trial would begin in twenty seventeen and on the first day, an eleven minute video would show the graphic attack, which we played in front of the courtroom.

Konyui was seen.

Covering his eyes with his hands and the Williams family would leave stating we don't want to see our husband, son and friend like that.

Attorneys would admit that mister Konyui is guilty of murder beyond all doubt and focused on trying to keep him from being sentenced to death.

Eleven of twelve jurys would vote in the death penalty.

However, one, as I said, didn't vote in it, and mister Koonyui was given life in prison.

He currently sits at eighty X and is forty eight years old.

The final person I'm going to talk about is one of very few he actually wanted to go to eighty X.

This is seventy year old James Michael Swango.

He was born in nineteen fifty four and is said to be one of the most prolific serial killers this country has ever seen, but he did it in a absolutely disgusting and depraved way.

While working as a physician.

It is estimated that he was involved and as many as sixty fatal poisonings of patients and colleagues, and not only the United States, but abroad, including Zimbabwe where he killed four different people.

In two thousand, he was sentenced to three consecutive life terms and according to Swango, he believed that he was at fear of death and he asked to go to ad X.

At the was stabbed by another inmate while serving time in another federal prison.

So he's been at ADX for a while and it's his own choosing.

At seventy years old, Missus.

Swango will die there and it is a worthy way of end for him.

All of the people we discussed today are the most dangerous people the federal prison system has to offer.

They have made it clear time and time again they cannot be housed in federal prisons.

They're not able to be dealt with.

They constantly have ordered hits in killing guards.

They have major influence, whether it be abroad or in this country.

These are the leaders of some.

Of the most evil groups.

This country has, and they have to be at a place like this.

I'll leave you this from an inmate that served time in ADX, and his name is John Greshner.

I saw a video once where John Greshner, who was a part of the AB discussed why ADX exists, and he essentially said that this place needs to exist because it keeps people like me away from people like you and.

You think about them.

And there's been calls over the years to literally abolish federal prisons, so insanely a non thought out or not thought out These are the worst people and they cannot be anywhere else.

Luckily it exists, so they're not anywhere near us.

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