Episode Transcript
Hey, everyone, welcome back to another episode of phutt Around and find Out.
I'm here with my girl A Shanty, Hi, A Shanty.
Speaker 2Hey, how you doing.
I'm good?
How are you doing?
I am great.
Speaker 3I had been watching a lot of women's basketball lately, well big yaan.
Speaker 2And of course I was tuned into your game.
My girl.
I'm so excited for you.
You are playing out of your mind.
Thank you.
Speaker 3Yes, did you know that you are currently fifty to fifty one hundred right now?
Speaker 2No?
I think the exact numbers.
Speaker 3Is like fifty to fifty three point one one hundred.
Speaker 2But I remember we talked about this last episode.
Speaker 3We were like, you're a point four away from being like either the first or second player ever to accomplish this.
Speaker 2This is like a huge deal.
Speaker 1I mean, like I haven't accomplished anything like That's what it is right now.
Speaker 2Don't you like end the year with that?
Speaker 3You know what, I'm gonna be excited for you, Thanks A Shanty, I will be.
I'm about to get that on a shirt.
Okay, that is a big deal.
I like you are killing it right now.
I know the focus is, you know, being with your team, winning games together, taking a game by game so let me and the fans be turned up for your fifty to fifty one hundred.
Okay, yeah, you've been playing really really well.
It's been super fun to watch you.
Speaker 2Thank you, Ashanti.
What have you been up to?
I finally started my Christmas shopping started.
Speaker 3Listen, listen, girl, work and all these other things have taken control.
Speaker 2But yes, I've started my Christmas shopping.
I have some time.
I have some time.
Speaker 3It's only the technically the nineteenth today, I have a little bit of time.
Yes, I hit all.
I have a Nissan nephew, so I did get them some stuff.
My nephews into like trains and cars and dinosaurs.
And my niece she's like she's two, so she's into like pink and loud noises.
So I have gotten her some like stuff, animal stuff, and so I'm excited.
Speaker 2I'm still working on my gift for my mom.
That's the hard part.
The girl likes the expensive things in.
Speaker 3Life, and so I'm just like, oh, what am I going to get her?
Speaker 2Break the bank this time?
That's where you get your bougen is from.
Speaker 1And your mom only deserves the best, so you better you better spend that money on her.
Speaker 2I'd be like donations.
Speaker 3Yeah, because she I'm like, girl, I don't know what you think this is?
Speaker 2You know when?
Speaker 3So it's so funny me and my friends say that, like you can't let your parents know, like when you're getting paid, or like if you're doing something new or exciting, because all of a sudden they're like, oh, I need this?
Did you get paid last week?
And I'm like, girl, don't be watching my bucket.
But then next thing, you know, it should be like this is what I get carried you for nine months and I'm like, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2Oh my goodness.
How about you?
Did you finish your Christmas shopping?
Speaker 1Just about once?
I'm just about done.
I got a couple of things I'll finish up before I go home.
And it's a chill Christmas from me this year at least, so sorry family.
Speaker 3As a budget budget cuts, yeah this year, Oh my goodness.
Well, I'm really looking forward to our guests today, are you kinda lum?
Speaker 2Yes?
I'm super excited.
Speaker 1We have a two time national champ, a one time WNBA champ, and a three on three gold medalist joining us today.
We have Stephanie Dolson Nay joining us on the pod today.
We have Stephanie Dolson.
Is okay if I call you stuff?
Or should I?
Speaker 2Okay?
Speaker 3Cool?
Speaker 2Of course that's okay, making sure, Steph.
How are you?
What are you up to?
Speaker 4Just off season stuff, training, getting healthy, being old?
Speaker 5Just nothing.
I literally just work out every day, so nothing.
Speaker 1Do you work out at home?
Are you still like in DMV area?
Speaker 4I go back and forth, but right now I'm home and I'm in New York.
I live with my girlfriend and queens.
Speaker 2So okay, yes, big New York.
Speaker 5Okay, yeah, it's lovely right now with the snow.
Speaker 2Oh my goodness, it's freezing out here.
It is.
Speaker 3It's getting ridiculous.
That's the one thing I don't like is New York in the winter.
But I'm an experienced.
Well last year I was here, but it didn't snow that much.
Speaker 4So this year I heard there's supposed to be a lot of snow, so that should be fun.
Speaker 3I mean, there's a lot to do, so I'm excited for you to explore the city.
Speaker 2But it's just freezing.
Speaker 4I mean I was in Chicago for a winter that was actually insane, so I think this should be okay.
Speaker 3Yes, definitely not Chicago, but yeah, so tell us more about your off season in DC, because before that, you know.
Speaker 2Used to be with us the New York Liberty.
Speaker 3How's that transition been over in the Asies area.
Speaker 5It's good.
Speaker 4I mean I was drafted to d C, so I was there for a few years.
My sisters live in Virginia, so it's like close to home.
We're close to their home.
I got to play with some really great girls.
Changing coaching staff was definitely a whirlwind, but it kept it interesting.
So it was a fun two years.
I'm excited to see what's next.
Speaker 2We're excited to see as well.
Speaker 5Yeah, same, Do you just wake up?
Speaker 2I could tell.
Speaker 4Not like this, but I just feel like, don't you have classes?
Speaker 2Like, I'm just no, it's right.
Speaker 1Finals week was last week, so we're done.
Speaker 5I'm like, doesn't she have to be in class right now?
Speaker 2No?
Speaker 1No, no, I'm done and I'm in grad school.
So my classes were at night.
Speaker 5Oh okay, that's nice.
Speaker 3Let's talk about your time and you can.
So you went back to back mm hmmm.
Something easy is trying to accomplish?
Now, what changes mentally when you're chasing that second one?
Speaker 4I think just like the pressure and I feel like that strives to be like perfect in every game, Like there's gonna be some close games, and I think it's gonna everyone's gonna try to rattle you.
I think our second season, after we won the first one, it was like every game they give you your their best, right, and coach talks about this stuff like every team's gonna give you their best.
Every crowd is going to be extra rowdy when you play them because everyone wants to be that team to like make you lose, right, wants to push you down a pedal a pedestal.
So I think it's just about like staying connected and still having fun.
Like if you're not enjoying it, then it's going to be hard to win every game.
But yeah, I think for me it was easier because I was a senior too, so it was like the second year was really personal to me, and I'm sure Asy feels the same.
It's like that's the year that's the most important, is like your last season, and you want to go out with a bang.
So it's just a plus that was like you won this season before, so you want to go back to back.
Speaker 5But yeah, I just enjoy that ride.
You'll never experience it a.
Speaker 1Yet so I feel like that's the most common thing I've heard is to enjoy it.
And I feel a lot of people talk about how, I g it's so easy just to get caught up in things when you're at Yukon and like the pressure and winning and making sure you're enjoying and still having fun.
Speaker 4So yeah, there's like nothing else to do.
I don't know, you can't, like you're not gonna be scared.
You're not gonna like you wouldn't have gone to Yukon.
If you're going to be scared about the moment.
You just have to like embrace it.
Speaker 2Yeah, no other way, you just got acception.
Speaker 5Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2So your senior season, you were undefeated.
Speaker 3What felt different about that season compared to previous ones.
Speaker 4Probably the fact that Briton I were her seniors, so we got to kind of be the obviously the leaders, but like it started and ended with us.
So if a practice went poorly, you know, we had to take it on the chin.
If a practice went well, it had nothing to do with us, and you just kind of have to like deal with that.
Speaker 5You know what I mean.
Speaker 4Like that's just part of being a leader, part of being the oldest being seniors and stuff.
So I think it was just this like embrace of just we have to do this, Like I'm a senior, I don't care what happens.
We're winning this season.
And there's been there was plenty of times that we lost.
You know, they'd had seasons before where they didn't lose at all, but then lost the championship.
We went through these seasons of like losing more games than most Yukon's team do, but we still want a champion, Like we knew at the end of the day that last game was all that mattered, and we just kind of stuck with it.
Speaker 2Wait, you said that, how many games did you guys lose?
I feel like I can relate to that.
Speaker 1I feel like we, Yeah, We've broken a whole lot of records since I've been there.
Speaker 4Yeah yeah, we lost eleven wow in my four years, which like seems like, oh my god, that's no you.
Speaker 2Know, right, I.
Speaker 4Know, but I'm telling you the years before they were like, well, my my freshman year they were they had the streak.
So my first I think it was eleven games or ten games.
It was like every game was just this added pressure of like, oh my god, don't be the ones to lose the streak.
Don't be the reason that you lost the streak.
And once we played Baylor and we wanted like got the shriek, I think we lost the next game to Stanford.
It was like this pressure everything just released.
It was so nice, Like I was like I could be a real freshman now.
But like, so losing eleven doesn't seem like a lot, but it was.
Speaker 5It's a lot.
Speaker 4Like some people went almost undefeated for like two and a half years.
Speaker 5They lost like three games in their four season, So yeah, for me, it felt like a lot.
I'm like, how embarrassing eleven but so definite?
Speaker 1So oh wait, that's so like I don't know, it's just unreal to say, like you live that, Like we hear about that, we see it on the walls in the gym, and we walk through Worth.
Speaker 2But to hear like that was your reality?
Wow?
Speaker 1Yeah, how did you stay locked in when everyone kept telling you how historic the season can be?
Speaker 5I don't know.
Speaker 4I'm kind of a hard person to ask those questions too, because I I don't know if I want to say I'm never locked in, but I'm kind of like I'm a very free flowing person, so like I'm just so realistic and like I take things for what they are, and so I think that's just it.
Speaker 5Like I was just very matter of fact.
Speaker 4So it's like it was easy for me to stay level headed, and I was nervous, Like I still get nervous to this day in every game that I play.
But yeah, I don't know, it's kind of easy for me to just stay grounded and like, I don't know, so I can't say that there's like a specific way that I did it.
I just it's just who I am.
I h I just take things for what they are.
Speaker 3I feel like that's your way of being locked in though, right, a little bit lighthearted like that, that's your version of showing up as you and keeping it, you know.
Speaker 2The main thing, the main thing.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3What's one thing people don't understand about playing at Yukon that only players can understand?
Speaker 5I think just the level.
Speaker 4It's kind of contradiction because it's like we had a lot of fun at Yukon, but there was also this level of like seriousness like the second you walked in.
Because I've seen some college practices and it's very just easygoing right, Like, but then it's kind of like when you go to USA basketball compared to like for me, you know, a league practice, and then you go to USA.
It's like you clap every time you're stretching your everything is very regiment and routine, and a lot of other places are a little bit more free flowing, and I think people don't understand that until they really see it or experience it as a player at Yukon, So like when I hear coaches go and they go watch their practices and stuff, they come back and they're like, wow, like it's so intense.
It's so serious, but still a little fun.
But like you just feel that energy of like we're in here to get shit done, to practice to you know, perfect things.
And yeah, it's just like this level of intensity that I don't think people really understand until they experience it.
Speaker 3Speaking of USA basketball, Steph, you won gold on a three and three USA team in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2Tell us about that.
Speaker 4In that experience, that was fun.
I mean I had such a great time.
Three out three is like just a simple way to play basketball, which for me is more fun and you know, it's a little bit more physical, a.
Speaker 5Little bit more like kind of mental.
Speaker 4It's kind of like a strategic game in a way too, because it has to happen so fast that like you have to make a read as quick as you can.
So it was just like a fun little change in how to play basketball.
Speaker 5And winning gold was like an incredible ride.
Speaker 4Like first to qualify, we were so excited, and then to go to the Olympics, like that's been a dream of mine my whole life.
I was with USA basketball.
I mean, well I'm in my thirties now, maybe sixteen seventeen years straight.
I didn't miss a practice, Like I was very dedicated to making something right, Like I was determined to make the Olympics no matter what, because like that's been my dream.
So when I got that chance with three on three, like I just I was so happy.
And the girls I played with were amazing, Like it was just a great, great experience and like not something I'll never forget.
Speaker 5So I loved it.
Obviously we went so was that the winners.
Speaker 1I want to know what the Olympic village was like, Like did you did you get to meet other athletes?
Did you go to other games or were you so busy with three and three that you were just locked in.
Speaker 4A little bit of all like all of the aboves kind of because one it was the Olympics.
That's the only thing like a little bit sad about the whole situation or experience was that it was right after COVID.
Speaker 5Yeah, so things were still a.
Speaker 4Little bit more separate than like they have been in previous years.
But also USA basketball they usually stay separate from the village, so then that was another part.
So we didn't really get to experience the village.
And then on top of that, three on three you play back to back to back, so you you essentially go the first I think the first week maybe is practicing, and then the second week you you just play.
And so once we won, i think the next day or a day after.
Speaker 2We left, oh wow.
Speaker 4Yeah, so it was really fast, like we couldn't even really experience much, which was sad, But at the same time, it's like I'm not gonna, you know, complain about it because i still got to win a gold and experience it like opening ceremonies.
It was just amazing and like I'm just out here with my phone like just imposter syndrome.
So the whole experience was still amazing.
Speaker 2I forgot COVID happened.
Speaker 5I know, ag.
Speaker 1Yeah, when I was like, damn you said three, Uh, you prefer three on three?
Speaker 5I don't prefer.
Speaker 4But it's just like like at Yukon, I think it starts you you learned three on three and kind of two on two, and then you put it together.
It's like, so I think I learned the game throughout three in a way, and so it's just like there's two reads to make, right, like where's my defense?
Speaker 5Where's there?
Speaker 4Like that's it, and that's it's just so simple.
So yeah, I think it's fun.
I think it's really fun because it's so.
Speaker 1Fast, so fast.
Oh, I have a question.
So you've played Foba three on three and then you played Unrivaled last season.
What three on three did you like better, because that's two very different kinds of three on three or what's the difference.
Speaker 2What's the difference for you.
Speaker 4In the fact that you had to go well partially it was like a smaller full court.
Yeah, obviously for me it was Foeba threeout three.
I think the first the first like little exhibition game for Unrivaled.
I had to switch on to a guard like three times.
In a row going full court, So I'm like back pedaling against a guard full court?
Speaker 5I'm like, what am I doing?
Why am I here?
Speaker 4It's just not granted, I found my footing a little bit, you know, I still stuck to what I'm good at.
But it was definitely I'd much prefer just guarding someone from the three point line if it's a guard, then a full.
Speaker 2Court I mean me too, doesn't everyone?
Speaker 5Yeah, I won't.
Not if you're going on a postal for it, that's easy.
But just saying.
Speaker 3So, you were a part of the inaugural season of Unrival.
I can't tell us about that experience.
Speaker 5It was cool.
Speaker 4I mean, I enjoyed it.
You got to be obviously in Miami, which is amazing.
The basketball was up and down, for sure.
Speaker 5Our team was.
We had we struggled.
Speaker 4You know, it wasn't like the best season for us because everyone got injured.
Speaker 5At one point.
Speaker 4It was literally me and Kmack from like our original team that was healthy, Like the two of us were the only ones that ended up staying healthy the entire season.
Speaker 5So it was definitely a.
Speaker 4Little bit of an up and down season for us there, but it was still fun, Like it was it was so cool to play with new players like me and at we got drafted together, and from that day we've been joking that we wanted to play together and like we've just never gotten to play, and so finally we got to be on the same team, and you know, we enjoyed it.
Obviously, she was injured most of it, but it was fun to play with someone like that, play with Kmac.
Like the three of us all were drafted together, so it was just like a really great team.
Speaker 5We had all old heads, so.
Speaker 4We all just were there to like we were just there to play basketball, enjoy Miami, not getting to any other crazy stuff.
Speaker 5So it was fun.
Speaker 3I do want to go back to your time at Yukon because everyone that we bring on has these awesome stories about CD or coach Gino.
Speaker 2So yes, we want to know if you have any CD stories.
Speaker 4I mean, I don't know about stories as much as they are moments, like they just were.
CD and I had a funny relationship because you know, it's like I don't know who it is on your team this year or maybe like Page last year, but there's always that one who CD kind of not picks on.
But you know, you have that relationship where you kind of banter back and forth, like I'll make fun of CD, She'll make fun of me.
You know, to this day, she still tells everyone the story of how she made me cry before I even picked a basketball up, Like she'd always tell that.
She was like, you never believe this.
This one time I walked to the gym and she's already crying.
Speaker 3You know.
Speaker 4I was like, because I cried a lot, like I was very my first season.
I for semester, like I wanted to leave.
I was almost done, like I was.
I didn't think I could do it.
I was crying all the time.
I came home a lot during the weekends like it was too hard for me.
And then you know, something switched during Christmas.
I had a conversation with Gino, but you know, and things got better.
But like before that, it was it was rough.
Like I was really crying a lot, and so Cedee her and I just we always had that relationship where we just kind of make fun of each other.
Speaker 5I used to wear.
Speaker 4Like like colored tights were very in back then, or like a little headband with flowers, and she'd always be like.
Speaker 5What are you wearing?
Speaker 4Like what you look ridiculous, you know, just something like that would just then the next time I'd wear an even brighter color, you know, or even bigger head band.
Like.
Speaker 5So we just kind of had that relationship throughout my years, which was fun.
Speaker 2I love that.
Speaker 1So there always has to be someone that does that with her, that goes back and forth, that has that fun relationship.
Speaker 2But it's definitely not me.
But it's not.
Speaker 5That's not a bad thing.
Speaker 1I don't know if I'm remembering this correctly, but it was like right after you left UKHON you dyed your hair like it was like purple or blue or pink, something bright?
Speaker 5Yeah, purple.
Speaker 1Had you been wanting to do that for a long time and you just couldn't because or was it just like, well I wanted.
Speaker 5To do something.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4I actually during the season, I think it was my junior year again, it was like a trendy thing to like, you know what it was like to shave part of your head.
Speaker 5I wanted to do that, like really badly.
Speaker 4And I went to CD one time and I was like, CD, if I go and shave my head, like what, She's like, You're not on the team, You're She's like, you will have the team anymore, and I was like, all right, cool, won't shave my head.
So yeah, once I left, I got a few tattoos.
Yeah, dye my hair purple.
It's just kind of that, like, you know, I think everyone has it, whether you go to Yukon or somewhere else.
It's like once you graduate from college, you feel like this like reborn feeling of like I'm an adult.
I can make adult decisions.
I can do whatever I want and no one can tell me otherwise maybe your parents, but my parents don't do that, so I just kind of went with it.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's amazing.
I do love your hair now, it looks so good.
Speaker 4I'm having a bit of a midlife crisis, so I was really bored I word with my hair.
I was like, I need to do something, and I don't cut my hair, so yeah, this is where it is right now.
Speaker 3Thanks, it looks I want to see some pictures of these bright tights and these headbands.
Speaker 5You can google it.
They were.
Speaker 2Will blue tights.
Speaker 4Casiti makes you wear tights, and it was like everything was so standard, right, it was like normal tights, black skirt, black shirts.
So then I'd throw in awful things.
I don't know what I was thinking going back.
Speaker 2I definitely need to picture this.
Speaker 1I need a dinner type of attire that you'd wear, like blue tights with yeah, like we'd have a.
Speaker 5Team dinner, but a different city with blue.
Speaker 2Maybe you should try that.
This year it was bad, I.
Speaker 4Betu she remembers.
I can't imagine she doesn't remember it.
I was usually the one that did weird things like that.
Speaker 3I would love to see it any of that.
Speaker 2No, what tights, blue flower headbands or no?
Speaker 5I don't think so.
I mean, you guys do enough to mess with them.
Speaker 4You guys walk around with wigs on or like them, do tiktoks exactly?
Speaker 5Yeah, you guys get enough.
Yeah, you get enough cringe from them.
Speaker 2But stuff, we did do a little searching.
Speaker 3We have some old pictures from your Instagram back when you and your team met Drake.
Speaker 2Look at your face.
Speaker 5I'm so nervous.
Speaker 2Nothing too nothing too crazy.
Speaker 3There's just a couple of times that you got to meet Drake, and I'm assuming I mean, like.
Speaker 2He called you his tall goddess.
It doesn't get any better.
Speaker 4I know, well maybe now, but back then, Yeah.
Speaker 2Tell us what it was like meeting him.
Speaker 5I don't know.
It was fun.
It was just I don't even remember how it happened, to be honest with you.
It was something.
Speaker 4I think Bria had an uncle who worked for security for him or something.
Speaker 5I think.
Speaker 4Uh So we end up at the concert backstage and I just got to meet him and he hugged me.
And then I saw him again at the SP's and hugged me again, and I was like, did we just become best friends?
Speaker 2Wait?
So this is real?
Yeah?
Speaker 1Me with him, yes, such At this point, armed the wrapped down, I was like, no, yes, he loved me.
Speaker 5He loved me.
Speaker 2Oh my gosh, that's incredible.
Speaker 5Yeah.
I was the tall guys before.
There's all these tall goddesses out there, you know, not.
Speaker 2The og goddess.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's real.
Speaker 4Those are not a I that's so funny that you guys went back and found Yeah.
Speaker 2Shout out to the team.
Speaker 3One of my my final Yukon questions, we had a little combo with miss Bria Hartley, one of your former teammates.
She shared that you guys kicked out of the locker room freshman year.
Speaker 2Please let us know what happened there.
Speaker 5It was so dumb, it was It was so dumb.
Speaker 4Well, I'm sure our stories are right on, because how could you either of us forget it?
Well, essentially it started with us getting kicked out of practice, which that I'll never forget because there's five freshmen.
Speaker 5I'm the good like I'm a goodie two shoes.
Let me.
Speaker 4I don't want to you know, yeah, like I'm let's not beat her on the bush.
I am a little bit of a brown noser.
I'm like, oh, what do you need me to do?
Like, I don't want to get on anyone's bad side, especially as a freshman.
So we're all like practicing, and coaches like, you know, you freshmen, you're awful, like you're not doing anything whatever.
Speaker 5Meanwhile I'm like, what did I do?
I didn't do anything.
So it is like, Maya, who do you think?
Speaker 3Uh?
Speaker 5Like who?
Speaker 4Like someone needs to get kicked out of practice?
Like and so she's like looking around and I just happen to make eye contact with her first and she she calls on me first.
I was like, Maya, we're like besties.
We were we were roommates on the road.
I was heartbroken, like I do everything for you, I love you.
So I was really it was really sad that I got picked first in that moment.
Uh, And then she went on to just call on all the freshmen because apparently we were the problem, which we probably were, don't get me wrong, but not all of us were the problem.
So then right after we got kicked out of practice.
He I don't remember how it happened.
I just remember our jersey's getting taken away.
The five of us were in the like the wreck center, like the rec locker and gamble.
Speaker 5I don't even know what it's called, I guess, but it was just it was so sad.
Speaker 4We made our own little board before pregame, like we'd draw up plays like just as a joke.
So we made it fun for us and it was a little bit of a bonding thing for us freshmen.
But we were definitely happy when we got let back into the locker room.
Like it was a few I don't know if it was a month or two or it was kind of a long time.
It felt like a long time, so maybe only a month, but that's a lot.
Speaker 5I know.
It was really sad.
Speaker 2We made you guys weren't in there for games like pregame.
You had to go to your own life.
Speaker 5Well, so like shoot around stuff.
Speaker 4Yeah, we were in our own locker and then I think the games we'd have to I don't know if we got dressed in the other locker room, but it was definitely like you had.
We had all our stuff in there, so then we'd have to like bring it to our actual locker room before the game.
But it was and then you'd go in there postgame and then bring everything back to the other locker room for like practice the next day or whatever.
Speaker 5It was bad.
It was really really bad.
Speaker 1Oh wait, did you get to keep like your practice stuff practice here or did you have to wear like the generic?
Speaker 3No?
Speaker 5Yeah, I think we had the generic.
Speaker 4Yeah, And then it was like I think it was a little by little, but I could be remembering wrong.
I think it was like as each person started doing better, Oh, here's your jersey, Like here's this, it was like.
Speaker 5Yes, please.
Speaker 4It's really kind of funny when you think back to college, Like when you're out of college in the next five to six years, it's gonna be so funny when you think about some of the things that you go through in college, because it's like.
Speaker 5A fever dream, like you're just like, did I really live that?
Speaker 4Did I actually do that in college and it was so normal, Like at that time, I'm like, yeah, of course I got kicked out, like it was terrible.
Speaker 5You know, it's just so normal, and I was like, what how do you do that?
Speaker 1Normal but also feels like the end of the world, like the biggest thing, like, oh no, we kicked out of the locker room.
And then looking back, well, that's actually really funny.
Speaker 5Yeah exactly, it made it more fun.
Speaker 2That's so funny.
Wow.
Okay, So I'm gonna pivot a little bit.
Speaker 3You know, Asy is in her senior year, you were a senior and a bet on your team.
How do you know when to speak up and then when to let your teammates kind of figure it out?
I know that's something Aasy has mentioned that she's trying to figure out on her own as well.
Speaker 4I mean, I'm still trying to figure it out.
To be honest with you, I think it depends on your relationship with everyone.
It would be my first piece of advice is like, what relationship do you have with everyone?
Speaker 2Right?
Speaker 4Like if if everyone sees you as the same type of person, and it's like, I'd say, talk as much as you can.
Speaker 5That's how I did it.
This year at least.
Speaker 4I don't know if I talk too much, but I always apologize before I started talking.
I'm like, all right, guys, I'm want to say something here.
But I think it's just like reading the room.
Obviously, you get a sense of your teammates and now that you're a grad student, like you've been around them enough, right, I'm sure you know in some aspects, like when the right time to talk is, when is in I think it's like it's always a funny line of if people seem really sad or mad, I kind of let them feel those feelings and then I might say something later, or sometimes like if everyone plays really bad, I don't speak like I'm just like this is the coach's job, like I want them to say something and then to kind of like I'll have individual conversations with people or whatever.
Speaker 2But I don't know.
Speaker 5It's just reading the room obviously, and it's just something that you learn.
Speaker 4It's not no one has that skill, I don't think, but you just got to learn it because when I was younger, I didn't speak up as much like I'm a very lead by example, I lead by my joy, whereas now I'm like, no, I have to say something like, but I've experienced so much, so I feel like I don't say I know it all because that's ridiculous, But I do feel like I know a lot so and I've experienced a lot of experienced good teams, I've experienced bad teams.
I've experienced a championship, I've experienced not making playoffs, like I've really experienced I feel like everything and so and I've experienced good vets, I've experienced bad vets.
So I feel like I've just learned with experience and like what I've seen works and doesn't work, So you'll you'll learn those skills and as your season keeps going, like we're only in December, so you still have quite a few months.
Speaker 5To keep learning.
Speaker 1Well, thank you.
That was really good advice.
Yeah, that is mean that I do.
I feel like I'm trying to figure out the balance between.
But I think I've been airing more on the side of caution and like letting them feel it out and figure it out.
But I think I need to air more on the say something and if they want me to shut up, those times to shut up, you know.
Yeah, So, what's the best advice you've ever gotten from a vet that's actually stuck with you.
Speaker 4I feel like the main advice, which is gonna sound like obvious, but I do feel like in the league sometimes people aren't this I had.
I think I believe it was Caro loss in it.
And now she probably won't remember doing this, but like as a rookie or you know, second year young player, like it really stuck with me.
It was just like she basically told me to be as honest as I possibly can.
Like I feel like people, really, like I said before, tiptoe round things.
Right, it's like, oh, I don't know if this works, and I don't know if this is cool, and it's just like no, like we're all adults in the league, right, it's a job at the end of the day.
And I think her advice was just like see it as that, like if something is going wrong, to say it and to be honest about it.
Like if if everyone's fake on a team or is like beating around the bush, nothing's gonna happen.
And if you really want to be successful, like you got to be straightforward, you gotta be honest, And I think that leads to that respect and like having each other's back.
So I think that's what we did, especially in Chicago the year that we won with each other, like we were very upfront, we were very honest.
There was good days and there was bad days because of it.
Like there's gonna be days that people don't like each other because of it.
But that's what it took to win a championship.
Speaker 5So that's beautiful.
No, truly, thanks, thanks care.
Speaker 1Now we're gonna do our what's the fud of the week or what's the fun of the week?
Is something that happened this week or recently that made you go like, what the fun?
So Steph is our guest.
I think you should go first.
What is your what the fud of the week?
Speaker 4Mine would be it was a good what the fun?
Because I was on the street in York City and these teenage boys walk by and I was taking a picture and they said smash.
Speaker 5I was like, I still got it, smash.
Speaker 2Smash was crazy.
Speaker 3I know.
Speaker 5My girlfriend was taking a picture and.
Speaker 3She's like.
Speaker 2Say that and I was like, listen, hot, mama, is that good?
Speaker 5It's good?
Speaker 3Right?
Speaker 2I know that's great.
That's a very New York story.
Great with the fun, perfect.
Speaker 5No notes, No one, you guys don't have one.
Speaker 2That's it, girl, that one, because that's that's the What the fuck?
No, I think she's got it.
That takes it the crown.
Speaker 5Okay, smash smash.
Speaker 2Did they do the hand move it too?
Speaker 5I don't know.
I was taking a picture.
I was just poking for a picture.
Speaker 2What were you wearing?
Were you all dressed up?
Yeah?
Speaker 4Yeah, we were going to the rockets, So I was like, I had a nice outfit on it for coat.
But I got cackled a few times that night.
I'm not gonna I was little feel myself.
I know I was not happy.
An old man cat call any day.
Speaker 2Okay, that's a great one.
The fun all right.
Speaker 3So our next fudding game is called fudd or dud.
Fud means it's fire, it's lit, it's a yes.
Dud means it's no.
Speaker 2All right.
First situation, post players get the worst whistle in basketball?
Are doe?
I guess it's like, yes, oh so true?
Speaker 5Easily?
Do you want do I explain as well?
If you want to?
Speaker 4If you want to, no, I mean we're whether we're bigger than someone or slower than someone.
If we just touch a guard, like say, I get switched on to a guard.
I can touch on easy foul, right, But a guard gets switched on to me and they're just like punching me in the God forbid, I turned my elbow and they fly.
It's a foul on me too.
There's no posts get the most calls easy.
Speaker 1I mean that, that's a great I'm gonna go with her on this one.
Speaker 2I feel like we get Yeah, I'm gonna go with her on this one.
That's true.
Thank you.
It's hard.
We've got a battery.
Speaker 5Oh, don't don't even starting on guards to next switch.
Speaker 3Yeah, next, If a guard switches on to you, you're required to score.
Speaker 5That's a tough one.
Speaker 4I feel like I would say fudd But at the same time, I'm it's gonna sound sad, but I'm more of a dud just because I don't like when when a guard switches onto a post and everyone's staring at it.
It's like everyone knows what's happening.
If we don't pass you the ball get out and someone else has a mismatch, you know what I mean.
Like, so, I'm a little bit both on that.
That's a tough one.
Speaker 2I think it depends on your personal Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1I'm definitely that guard that's staring like you're the guard on that guard.
Speaker 3Sorry, okay, okay, hitting one three makes you a stretch big.
Speaker 2This is hilarious.
Speaker 5Done, Doug.
Speaker 4Don't ask my teammates that because they hit one three and they're like, yeah, get back on defense.
Speaker 5You made one three, Like get.
Speaker 2Back yes for me, yeah, dud.
Rookies should carry bags.
Speaker 4In college or in the league, or I guess rookies is in college.
That's freshman, so you meant the league either one?
Okay, done?
Speaker 5Not done?
Either way.
Done.
I can care aunt bag.
I don't need to care about bags.
Speaker 2You're sweet.
Speaker 1I feel like coming from Yukon, I'm expecting, like a fun I'm expecting.
I don't know every time when I was when I was a freshman, it was like freshman, do this, freshman, juty that, get the bags, do this, and so I'll be prepared either way.
Speaker 5The league has changed a little bit.
Speaker 4When I was a rookie, for sure, we had to carry all the carry on bags because we used to carry the shoes and the jerseys as carry ons.
But now it's like with charter flights, like it's just everything's a little bit different.
So it's a little bit, you know, it's a little bit nicer, and every team has a lot more staff, so when bags come in and out.
Speaker 5There like some of them not much of a chance.
Speaker 3Okay, talking on defense should be mandatory, I mean fun fun.
Yeah, for sure, three on three basketball is harder than five on five done.
Speaker 4I think five on five is like there's just so many more things going on.
There's so much more congestion, and the paint it's fast, Well it's not faster, but it's like it's faster in a different way because of the full court.
Speaker 5So it's just for sure, I think it's harder.
Speaker 1I think three on three is harder.
Really, it's just so tiring.
Speaker 2Off that.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, there definitely is a lot more going on in five on five.
Speaker 2Bigs who passed don't get enough credit.
Fun.
Speaker 4Yeah, I think it's a fun.
But I think it's becoming a little bit better lately.
I do think us bigs who pass are getting a little bit more credit than it used to be because a few years ago I felt like there was no there was no bigs who could pass, And now all of a sudden, every big is really good at passing.
Speaker 5So I'm like there's you know, that's how it works.
Speaker 4It's kind of like, you know, you make one through your stretch post, you make one good pass, It doesn't mean you're a good passing post.
Speaker 5You know, call a spade a space.
Speaker 2You did that one good pass.
Yeah, now your point guard exactly.
Speaker 5Now this is everyone.
Speaker 3Everyone, Okay, celebrating a wide open layup is acceptable.
Speaker 2That's a dude for me.
I mean, I'm.
Speaker 1Gonna all your layups if you were in a layup slump, I understand, except I not anymore.
But previously I was in a layup slump.
Speaker 4So I was gonna say, that's so funny because I was just gonna say, who, if you're in a layup slump, should you be playing?
Speaker 5When was this slump?
I've been watching you guys as games.
I don't remember seeing you take one layup into games or two, you know one, I.
Speaker 2Mean the clunk it off the backboard, but hear me out.
I was like, it's a pass.
Who was behind her?
Speaker 5It's all right.
Speaker 4I'm sure everyone forgot about it.
I'm sure you made four threes after it.
Speaker 2So definitely forgot about it.
Yeah, I hope they forgot about it.
Anyways, moving on.
Speaker 3Next one, if you don't set screens, you shouldn't shoot.
Speaker 5That's probably a fun.
Speaker 4Because everyone needs to set some type of screen, unless you're like a point guard, but you might be setting like a cross screen for a big and I love a guard who sets a good screen for a post player.
Speaker 1I love setting good screens like when you when you get hit, like when you know you said a good one.
Yeah, that's probably one of the best things for me in basketball.
Speaker 3Same same, So I'm also gonna go fud on this, Okay, budds all around.
Last one, every team needs one bet who argues with refs.
Speaker 4I'd say dud only because I would change the verbiage and just say one player, because not every team needs a vet to argue.
Sometimes you need the vets to not argue because you know all the young ones are going to argue or someone's gonna.
Speaker 5Argue, so you need a levelhead of the vet.
Speaker 2Good.
Speaker 5But if it was that, then I'd say fun, But I'd still say done.
Speaker 1I'm gonna go dud or I'll go fun because I'm the teammate that is entertained by their teammates arguing with refs.
Speaker 2I'm crying, I'm crying.
Speaker 1All right, that is all we have today.
Steph, thank you so much for joining us.
This was so much fun.
Speaker 5Thanks for having me at.
Speaker 1A blast Everyone's thank you so much for listening today, and don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to Futter Around and find Out wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2We will see you guys next week.
Speaker 1Futter Around and find Out is a production of iHeart Women's Sports and Unanimous Media.
Executive producers are Jesse Katz, Eric Payton, Charla Sumter Brugette, and Stephan Curry.
Co executive producer is Kelena Maria Cutney.
Producers are Mike Costcarelli, Grace Hughs and Mackenzie Fitzpatrick, and co producers are Kurt Redmand, Maya Howard and Jacqueline Schoeninger.
This podcast is edited by Mike Costcarelli and hosted by me Aizy Fudd and Ashaunty Plummer.
