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Lessons from a Long Career w/ Stefanie Dolson

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Speaker 1

Hey, everyone, welcome back to another episode of phutt Around and find Out.

I'm here with my girl A Shanty, Hi, A Shanty.

Speaker 2

Hey, how you doing.

I'm good?

How are you doing?

I am great.

Speaker 3

I had been watching a lot of women's basketball lately, well big yaan.

Speaker 2

And of course I was tuned into your game.

My girl.

I'm so excited for you.

You are playing out of your mind.

Thank you.

Speaker 3

Yes, did you know that you are currently fifty to fifty one hundred right now?

Speaker 2

No?

I think the exact numbers.

Speaker 3

Is like fifty to fifty three point one one hundred.

Speaker 2

But I remember we talked about this last episode.

Speaker 3

We were like, you're a point four away from being like either the first or second player ever to accomplish this.

Speaker 2

This is like a huge deal.

Speaker 1

I mean, like I haven't accomplished anything like That's what it is right now.

Speaker 2

Don't you like end the year with that?

Speaker 3

You know what, I'm gonna be excited for you, Thanks A Shanty, I will be.

I'm about to get that on a shirt.

Okay, that is a big deal.

I like you are killing it right now.

I know the focus is, you know, being with your team, winning games together, taking a game by game so let me and the fans be turned up for your fifty to fifty one hundred.

Okay, yeah, you've been playing really really well.

It's been super fun to watch you.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Ashanti.

What have you been up to?

I finally started my Christmas shopping started.

Speaker 3

Listen, listen, girl, work and all these other things have taken control.

Speaker 2

But yes, I've started my Christmas shopping.

I have some time.

I have some time.

Speaker 3

It's only the technically the nineteenth today, I have a little bit of time.

Yes, I hit all.

I have a Nissan nephew, so I did get them some stuff.

My nephews into like trains and cars and dinosaurs.

And my niece she's like she's two, so she's into like pink and loud noises.

So I have gotten her some like stuff, animal stuff, and so I'm excited.

Speaker 2

I'm still working on my gift for my mom.

That's the hard part.

The girl likes the expensive things in.

Speaker 3

Life, and so I'm just like, oh, what am I going to get her?

Speaker 2

Break the bank this time?

That's where you get your bougen is from.

Speaker 1

And your mom only deserves the best, so you better you better spend that money on her.

Speaker 2

I'd be like donations.

Speaker 3

Yeah, because she I'm like, girl, I don't know what you think this is?

Speaker 2

You know when?

Speaker 3

So it's so funny me and my friends say that, like you can't let your parents know, like when you're getting paid, or like if you're doing something new or exciting, because all of a sudden they're like, oh, I need this?

Did you get paid last week?

And I'm like, girl, don't be watching my bucket.

But then next thing, you know, it should be like this is what I get carried you for nine months and I'm like, you're not wrong.

Speaker 2

Oh my goodness.

How about you?

Did you finish your Christmas shopping?

Speaker 1

Just about once?

I'm just about done.

I got a couple of things I'll finish up before I go home.

And it's a chill Christmas from me this year at least, so sorry family.

Speaker 3

As a budget budget cuts, yeah this year, Oh my goodness.

Well, I'm really looking forward to our guests today, are you kinda lum?

Speaker 2

Yes?

I'm super excited.

Speaker 1

We have a two time national champ, a one time WNBA champ, and a three on three gold medalist joining us today.

We have Stephanie Dolson Nay joining us on the pod today.

We have Stephanie Dolson.

Is okay if I call you stuff?

Or should I?

Speaker 2

Okay?

Speaker 3

Cool?

Speaker 2

Of course that's okay, making sure, Steph.

How are you?

What are you up to?

Speaker 4

Just off season stuff, training, getting healthy, being old?

Speaker 5

Just nothing.

I literally just work out every day, so nothing.

Speaker 1

Do you work out at home?

Are you still like in DMV area?

Speaker 4

I go back and forth, but right now I'm home and I'm in New York.

I live with my girlfriend and queens.

Speaker 2

So okay, yes, big New York.

Speaker 5

Okay, yeah, it's lovely right now with the snow.

Speaker 2

Oh my goodness, it's freezing out here.

It is.

Speaker 3

It's getting ridiculous.

That's the one thing I don't like is New York in the winter.

But I'm an experienced.

Well last year I was here, but it didn't snow that much.

Speaker 4

So this year I heard there's supposed to be a lot of snow, so that should be fun.

Speaker 3

I mean, there's a lot to do, so I'm excited for you to explore the city.

Speaker 2

But it's just freezing.

Speaker 4

I mean I was in Chicago for a winter that was actually insane, so I think this should be okay.

Speaker 3

Yes, definitely not Chicago, but yeah, so tell us more about your off season in DC, because before that, you know.

Speaker 2

Used to be with us the New York Liberty.

Speaker 3

How's that transition been over in the Asies area.

Speaker 5

It's good.

Speaker 4

I mean I was drafted to d C, so I was there for a few years.

My sisters live in Virginia, so it's like close to home.

We're close to their home.

I got to play with some really great girls.

Changing coaching staff was definitely a whirlwind, but it kept it interesting.

So it was a fun two years.

I'm excited to see what's next.

Speaker 2

We're excited to see as well.

Speaker 5

Yeah, same, Do you just wake up?

Speaker 2

I could tell.

Speaker 4

Not like this, but I just feel like, don't you have classes?

Speaker 2

Like, I'm just no, it's right.

Speaker 1

Finals week was last week, so we're done.

Speaker 5

I'm like, doesn't she have to be in class right now?

Speaker 2

No?

Speaker 1

No, no, I'm done and I'm in grad school.

So my classes were at night.

Speaker 5

Oh okay, that's nice.

Speaker 3

Let's talk about your time and you can.

So you went back to back mm hmmm.

Something easy is trying to accomplish?

Now, what changes mentally when you're chasing that second one?

Speaker 4

I think just like the pressure and I feel like that strives to be like perfect in every game, Like there's gonna be some close games, and I think it's gonna everyone's gonna try to rattle you.

I think our second season, after we won the first one, it was like every game they give you your their best, right, and coach talks about this stuff like every team's gonna give you their best.

Every crowd is going to be extra rowdy when you play them because everyone wants to be that team to like make you lose, right, wants to push you down a pedal a pedestal.

So I think it's just about like staying connected and still having fun.

Like if you're not enjoying it, then it's going to be hard to win every game.

But yeah, I think for me it was easier because I was a senior too, so it was like the second year was really personal to me, and I'm sure Asy feels the same.

It's like that's the year that's the most important, is like your last season, and you want to go out with a bang.

So it's just a plus that was like you won this season before, so you want to go back to back.

Speaker 5

But yeah, I just enjoy that ride.

You'll never experience it a.

Speaker 1

Yet so I feel like that's the most common thing I've heard is to enjoy it.

And I feel a lot of people talk about how, I g it's so easy just to get caught up in things when you're at Yukon and like the pressure and winning and making sure you're enjoying and still having fun.

Speaker 4

So yeah, there's like nothing else to do.

I don't know, you can't, like you're not gonna be scared.

You're not gonna like you wouldn't have gone to Yukon.

If you're going to be scared about the moment.

You just have to like embrace it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, no other way, you just got acception.

Speaker 5

Yeah, exactly exactly.

Speaker 2

So your senior season, you were undefeated.

Speaker 3

What felt different about that season compared to previous ones.

Speaker 4

Probably the fact that Briton I were her seniors, so we got to kind of be the obviously the leaders, but like it started and ended with us.

So if a practice went poorly, you know, we had to take it on the chin.

If a practice went well, it had nothing to do with us, and you just kind of have to like deal with that.

Speaker 5

You know what I mean.

Speaker 4

Like that's just part of being a leader, part of being the oldest being seniors and stuff.

So I think it was just this like embrace of just we have to do this, Like I'm a senior, I don't care what happens.

We're winning this season.

And there's been there was plenty of times that we lost.

You know, they'd had seasons before where they didn't lose at all, but then lost the championship.

We went through these seasons of like losing more games than most Yukon's team do, but we still want a champion, Like we knew at the end of the day that last game was all that mattered, and we just kind of stuck with it.

Speaker 2

Wait, you said that, how many games did you guys lose?

I feel like I can relate to that.

Speaker 1

I feel like we, Yeah, We've broken a whole lot of records since I've been there.

Speaker 4

Yeah yeah, we lost eleven wow in my four years, which like seems like, oh my god, that's no you.

Speaker 2

Know, right, I.

Speaker 4

Know, but I'm telling you the years before they were like, well, my my freshman year they were they had the streak.

So my first I think it was eleven games or ten games.

It was like every game was just this added pressure of like, oh my god, don't be the ones to lose the streak.

Don't be the reason that you lost the streak.

And once we played Baylor and we wanted like got the shriek, I think we lost the next game to Stanford.

It was like this pressure everything just released.

It was so nice, Like I was like I could be a real freshman now.

But like, so losing eleven doesn't seem like a lot, but it was.

Speaker 5

It's a lot.

Speaker 4

Like some people went almost undefeated for like two and a half years.

Speaker 5

They lost like three games in their four season, So yeah, for me, it felt like a lot.

I'm like, how embarrassing eleven but so definite?

Speaker 1

So oh wait, that's so like I don't know, it's just unreal to say, like you live that, Like we hear about that, we see it on the walls in the gym, and we walk through Worth.

Speaker 2

But to hear like that was your reality?

Wow?

Speaker 1

Yeah, how did you stay locked in when everyone kept telling you how historic the season can be?

Speaker 5

I don't know.

Speaker 4

I'm kind of a hard person to ask those questions too, because I I don't know if I want to say I'm never locked in, but I'm kind of like I'm a very free flowing person, so like I'm just so realistic and like I take things for what they are, and so I think that's just it.

Speaker 5

Like I was just very matter of fact.

Speaker 4

So it's like it was easy for me to stay level headed, and I was nervous, Like I still get nervous to this day in every game that I play.

But yeah, I don't know, it's kind of easy for me to just stay grounded and like, I don't know, so I can't say that there's like a specific way that I did it.

I just it's just who I am.

I h I just take things for what they are.

Speaker 3

I feel like that's your way of being locked in though, right, a little bit lighthearted like that, that's your version of showing up as you and keeping it, you know.

Speaker 2

The main thing, the main thing.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 3

What's one thing people don't understand about playing at Yukon that only players can understand?

Speaker 5

I think just the level.

Speaker 4

It's kind of contradiction because it's like we had a lot of fun at Yukon, but there was also this level of like seriousness like the second you walked in.

Because I've seen some college practices and it's very just easygoing right, Like, but then it's kind of like when you go to USA basketball compared to like for me, you know, a league practice, and then you go to USA.

It's like you clap every time you're stretching your everything is very regiment and routine, and a lot of other places are a little bit more free flowing, and I think people don't understand that until they really see it or experience it as a player at Yukon, So like when I hear coaches go and they go watch their practices and stuff, they come back and they're like, wow, like it's so intense.

It's so serious, but still a little fun.

But like you just feel that energy of like we're in here to get shit done, to practice to you know, perfect things.

And yeah, it's just like this level of intensity that I don't think people really understand until they experience it.

Speaker 3

Speaking of USA basketball, Steph, you won gold on a three and three USA team in twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2

Tell us about that.

Speaker 4

In that experience, that was fun.

I mean I had such a great time.

Three out three is like just a simple way to play basketball, which for me is more fun and you know, it's a little bit more physical, a.

Speaker 5

Little bit more like kind of mental.

Speaker 4

It's kind of like a strategic game in a way too, because it has to happen so fast that like you have to make a read as quick as you can.

So it was just like a fun little change in how to play basketball.

Speaker 5

And winning gold was like an incredible ride.

Speaker 4

Like first to qualify, we were so excited, and then to go to the Olympics, like that's been a dream of mine my whole life.

I was with USA basketball.

I mean, well I'm in my thirties now, maybe sixteen seventeen years straight.

I didn't miss a practice, Like I was very dedicated to making something right, Like I was determined to make the Olympics no matter what, because like that's been my dream.

So when I got that chance with three on three, like I just I was so happy.

And the girls I played with were amazing, Like it was just a great, great experience and like not something I'll never forget.

Speaker 5

So I loved it.

Obviously we went so was that the winners.

Speaker 1

I want to know what the Olympic village was like, Like did you did you get to meet other athletes?

Did you go to other games or were you so busy with three and three that you were just locked in.

Speaker 4

A little bit of all like all of the aboves kind of because one it was the Olympics.

That's the only thing like a little bit sad about the whole situation or experience was that it was right after COVID.

Speaker 5

Yeah, so things were still a.

Speaker 4

Little bit more separate than like they have been in previous years.

But also USA basketball they usually stay separate from the village, so then that was another part.

So we didn't really get to experience the village.

And then on top of that, three on three you play back to back to back, so you you essentially go the first I think the first week maybe is practicing, and then the second week you you just play.

And so once we won, i think the next day or a day after.

Speaker 2

We left, oh wow.

Speaker 4

Yeah, so it was really fast, like we couldn't even really experience much, which was sad, But at the same time, it's like I'm not gonna, you know, complain about it because i still got to win a gold and experience it like opening ceremonies.

It was just amazing and like I'm just out here with my phone like just imposter syndrome.

So the whole experience was still amazing.

Speaker 2

I forgot COVID happened.

Speaker 5

I know, ag.

Speaker 1

Yeah, when I was like, damn you said three, Uh, you prefer three on three?

Speaker 5

I don't prefer.

Speaker 4

But it's just like like at Yukon, I think it starts you you learned three on three and kind of two on two, and then you put it together.

It's like, so I think I learned the game throughout three in a way, and so it's just like there's two reads to make, right, like where's my defense?

Speaker 5

Where's there?

Speaker 4

Like that's it, and that's it's just so simple.

So yeah, I think it's fun.

I think it's really fun because it's so.

Speaker 1

Fast, so fast.

Oh, I have a question.

So you've played Foba three on three and then you played Unrivaled last season.

What three on three did you like better, because that's two very different kinds of three on three or what's the difference.

Speaker 2

What's the difference for you.

Speaker 4

In the fact that you had to go well partially it was like a smaller full court.

Yeah, obviously for me it was Foeba threeout three.

I think the first the first like little exhibition game for Unrivaled.

I had to switch on to a guard like three times.

In a row going full court, So I'm like back pedaling against a guard full court?

Speaker 5

I'm like, what am I doing?

Why am I here?

Speaker 4

It's just not granted, I found my footing a little bit, you know, I still stuck to what I'm good at.

But it was definitely I'd much prefer just guarding someone from the three point line if it's a guard, then a full.

Speaker 2

Court I mean me too, doesn't everyone?

Speaker 5

Yeah, I won't.

Not if you're going on a postal for it, that's easy.

But just saying.

Speaker 3

So, you were a part of the inaugural season of Unrival.

I can't tell us about that experience.

Speaker 5

It was cool.

Speaker 4

I mean, I enjoyed it.

You got to be obviously in Miami, which is amazing.

The basketball was up and down, for sure.

Speaker 5

Our team was.

We had we struggled.

Speaker 4

You know, it wasn't like the best season for us because everyone got injured.

Speaker 5

At one point.

Speaker 4

It was literally me and Kmack from like our original team that was healthy, Like the two of us were the only ones that ended up staying healthy the entire season.

Speaker 5

So it was definitely a.

Speaker 4

Little bit of an up and down season for us there, but it was still fun, Like it was it was so cool to play with new players like me and at we got drafted together, and from that day we've been joking that we wanted to play together and like we've just never gotten to play, and so finally we got to be on the same team, and you know, we enjoyed it.

Obviously, she was injured most of it, but it was fun to play with someone like that, play with Kmac.

Like the three of us all were drafted together, so it was just like a really great team.

Speaker 5

We had all old heads, so.

Speaker 4

We all just were there to like we were just there to play basketball, enjoy Miami, not getting to any other crazy stuff.

Speaker 5

So it was fun.

Speaker 3

I do want to go back to your time at Yukon because everyone that we bring on has these awesome stories about CD or coach Gino.

Speaker 2

So yes, we want to know if you have any CD stories.

Speaker 4

I mean, I don't know about stories as much as they are moments, like they just were.

CD and I had a funny relationship because you know, it's like I don't know who it is on your team this year or maybe like Page last year, but there's always that one who CD kind of not picks on.

But you know, you have that relationship where you kind of banter back and forth, like I'll make fun of CD, She'll make fun of me.

You know, to this day, she still tells everyone the story of how she made me cry before I even picked a basketball up, Like she'd always tell that.

She was like, you never believe this.

This one time I walked to the gym and she's already crying.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 4

I was like, because I cried a lot, like I was very my first season.

I for semester, like I wanted to leave.

I was almost done, like I was.

I didn't think I could do it.

I was crying all the time.

I came home a lot during the weekends like it was too hard for me.

And then you know, something switched during Christmas.

I had a conversation with Gino, but you know, and things got better.

But like before that, it was it was rough.

Like I was really crying a lot, and so Cedee her and I just we always had that relationship where we just kind of make fun of each other.

Speaker 5

I used to wear.

Speaker 4

Like like colored tights were very in back then, or like a little headband with flowers, and she'd always be like.

Speaker 5

What are you wearing?

Speaker 4

Like what you look ridiculous, you know, just something like that would just then the next time I'd wear an even brighter color, you know, or even bigger head band.

Like.

Speaker 5

So we just kind of had that relationship throughout my years, which was fun.

Speaker 2

I love that.

Speaker 1

So there always has to be someone that does that with her, that goes back and forth, that has that fun relationship.

Speaker 2

But it's definitely not me.

But it's not.

Speaker 5

That's not a bad thing.

Speaker 1

I don't know if I'm remembering this correctly, but it was like right after you left UKHON you dyed your hair like it was like purple or blue or pink, something bright?

Speaker 5

Yeah, purple.

Speaker 1

Had you been wanting to do that for a long time and you just couldn't because or was it just like, well I wanted.

Speaker 5

To do something.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 4

I actually during the season, I think it was my junior year again, it was like a trendy thing to like, you know what it was like to shave part of your head.

Speaker 5

I wanted to do that, like really badly.

Speaker 4

And I went to CD one time and I was like, CD, if I go and shave my head, like what, She's like, You're not on the team, You're She's like, you will have the team anymore, and I was like, all right, cool, won't shave my head.

So yeah, once I left, I got a few tattoos.

Yeah, dye my hair purple.

It's just kind of that, like, you know, I think everyone has it, whether you go to Yukon or somewhere else.

It's like once you graduate from college, you feel like this like reborn feeling of like I'm an adult.

I can make adult decisions.

I can do whatever I want and no one can tell me otherwise maybe your parents, but my parents don't do that, so I just kind of went with it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that's amazing.

I do love your hair now, it looks so good.

Speaker 4

I'm having a bit of a midlife crisis, so I was really bored I word with my hair.

I was like, I need to do something, and I don't cut my hair, so yeah, this is where it is right now.

Speaker 3

Thanks, it looks I want to see some pictures of these bright tights and these headbands.

Speaker 5

You can google it.

They were.

Speaker 2

Will blue tights.

Speaker 4

Casiti makes you wear tights, and it was like everything was so standard, right, it was like normal tights, black skirt, black shirts.

So then I'd throw in awful things.

I don't know what I was thinking going back.

Speaker 2

I definitely need to picture this.

Speaker 1

I need a dinner type of attire that you'd wear, like blue tights with yeah, like we'd have a.

Speaker 5

Team dinner, but a different city with blue.

Speaker 2

Maybe you should try that.

This year it was bad, I.

Speaker 4

Betu she remembers.

I can't imagine she doesn't remember it.

I was usually the one that did weird things like that.

Speaker 3

I would love to see it any of that.

Speaker 2

No, what tights, blue flower headbands or no?

Speaker 5

I don't think so.

I mean, you guys do enough to mess with them.

Speaker 4

You guys walk around with wigs on or like them, do tiktoks exactly?

Speaker 5

Yeah, you guys get enough.

Yeah, you get enough cringe from them.

Speaker 2

But stuff, we did do a little searching.

Speaker 3

We have some old pictures from your Instagram back when you and your team met Drake.

Speaker 2

Look at your face.

Speaker 5

I'm so nervous.

Speaker 2

Nothing too nothing too crazy.

Speaker 3

There's just a couple of times that you got to meet Drake, and I'm assuming I mean, like.

Speaker 2

He called you his tall goddess.

It doesn't get any better.

Speaker 4

I know, well maybe now, but back then, Yeah.

Speaker 2

Tell us what it was like meeting him.

Speaker 5

I don't know.

It was fun.

It was just I don't even remember how it happened, to be honest with you.

It was something.

Speaker 4

I think Bria had an uncle who worked for security for him or something.

Speaker 5

I think.

Speaker 4

Uh So we end up at the concert backstage and I just got to meet him and he hugged me.

And then I saw him again at the SP's and hugged me again, and I was like, did we just become best friends?

Speaker 2

Wait?

So this is real?

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Me with him, yes, such At this point, armed the wrapped down, I was like, no, yes, he loved me.

Speaker 5

He loved me.

Speaker 2

Oh my gosh, that's incredible.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

I was the tall guys before.

There's all these tall goddesses out there, you know, not.

Speaker 2

The og goddess.

Speaker 5

Yeah, it's real.

Speaker 4

Those are not a I that's so funny that you guys went back and found Yeah.

Speaker 2

Shout out to the team.

Speaker 3

One of my my final Yukon questions, we had a little combo with miss Bria Hartley, one of your former teammates.

She shared that you guys kicked out of the locker room freshman year.

Speaker 2

Please let us know what happened there.

Speaker 5

It was so dumb, it was It was so dumb.

Speaker 4

Well, I'm sure our stories are right on, because how could you either of us forget it?

Well, essentially it started with us getting kicked out of practice, which that I'll never forget because there's five freshmen.

Speaker 5

I'm the good like I'm a goodie two shoes.

Let me.

Speaker 4

I don't want to you know, yeah, like I'm let's not beat her on the bush.

I am a little bit of a brown noser.

I'm like, oh, what do you need me to do?

Like, I don't want to get on anyone's bad side, especially as a freshman.

So we're all like practicing, and coaches like, you know, you freshmen, you're awful, like you're not doing anything whatever.

Speaker 5

Meanwhile I'm like, what did I do?

I didn't do anything.

So it is like, Maya, who do you think?

Speaker 3

Uh?

Speaker 5

Like who?

Speaker 4

Like someone needs to get kicked out of practice?

Like and so she's like looking around and I just happen to make eye contact with her first and she she calls on me first.

I was like, Maya, we're like besties.

We were we were roommates on the road.

I was heartbroken, like I do everything for you, I love you.

So I was really it was really sad that I got picked first in that moment.

Uh, And then she went on to just call on all the freshmen because apparently we were the problem, which we probably were, don't get me wrong, but not all of us were the problem.

So then right after we got kicked out of practice.

He I don't remember how it happened.

I just remember our jersey's getting taken away.

The five of us were in the like the wreck center, like the rec locker and gamble.

Speaker 5

I don't even know what it's called, I guess, but it was just it was so sad.

Speaker 4

We made our own little board before pregame, like we'd draw up plays like just as a joke.

So we made it fun for us and it was a little bit of a bonding thing for us freshmen.

But we were definitely happy when we got let back into the locker room.

Like it was a few I don't know if it was a month or two or it was kind of a long time.

It felt like a long time, so maybe only a month, but that's a lot.

Speaker 5

I know.

It was really sad.

Speaker 2

We made you guys weren't in there for games like pregame.

You had to go to your own life.

Speaker 5

Well, so like shoot around stuff.

Speaker 4

Yeah, we were in our own locker and then I think the games we'd have to I don't know if we got dressed in the other locker room, but it was definitely like you had.

We had all our stuff in there, so then we'd have to like bring it to our actual locker room before the game.

But it was and then you'd go in there postgame and then bring everything back to the other locker room for like practice the next day or whatever.

Speaker 5

It was bad.

It was really really bad.

Speaker 1

Oh wait, did you get to keep like your practice stuff practice here or did you have to wear like the generic?

Speaker 3

No?

Speaker 5

Yeah, I think we had the generic.

Speaker 4

Yeah, And then it was like I think it was a little by little, but I could be remembering wrong.

I think it was like as each person started doing better, Oh, here's your jersey, Like here's this, it was like.

Speaker 5

Yes, please.

Speaker 4

It's really kind of funny when you think back to college, Like when you're out of college in the next five to six years, it's gonna be so funny when you think about some of the things that you go through in college, because it's like.

Speaker 5

A fever dream, like you're just like, did I really live that?

Speaker 4

Did I actually do that in college and it was so normal, Like at that time, I'm like, yeah, of course I got kicked out, like it was terrible.

Speaker 5

You know, it's just so normal, and I was like, what how do you do that?

Speaker 1

Normal but also feels like the end of the world, like the biggest thing, like, oh no, we kicked out of the locker room.

And then looking back, well, that's actually really funny.

Speaker 5

Yeah exactly, it made it more fun.

Speaker 2

That's so funny.

Wow.

Okay, So I'm gonna pivot a little bit.

Speaker 3

You know, Asy is in her senior year, you were a senior and a bet on your team.

How do you know when to speak up and then when to let your teammates kind of figure it out?

I know that's something Aasy has mentioned that she's trying to figure out on her own as well.

Speaker 4

I mean, I'm still trying to figure it out.

To be honest with you, I think it depends on your relationship with everyone.

It would be my first piece of advice is like, what relationship do you have with everyone?

Speaker 2

Right?

Speaker 4

Like if if everyone sees you as the same type of person, and it's like, I'd say, talk as much as you can.

Speaker 5

That's how I did it.

This year at least.

Speaker 4

I don't know if I talk too much, but I always apologize before I started talking.

I'm like, all right, guys, I'm want to say something here.

But I think it's just like reading the room.

Obviously, you get a sense of your teammates and now that you're a grad student, like you've been around them enough, right, I'm sure you know in some aspects, like when the right time to talk is, when is in I think it's like it's always a funny line of if people seem really sad or mad, I kind of let them feel those feelings and then I might say something later, or sometimes like if everyone plays really bad, I don't speak like I'm just like this is the coach's job, like I want them to say something and then to kind of like I'll have individual conversations with people or whatever.

Speaker 2

But I don't know.

Speaker 5

It's just reading the room obviously, and it's just something that you learn.

Speaker 4

It's not no one has that skill, I don't think, but you just got to learn it because when I was younger, I didn't speak up as much like I'm a very lead by example, I lead by my joy, whereas now I'm like, no, I have to say something like, but I've experienced so much, so I feel like I don't say I know it all because that's ridiculous, But I do feel like I know a lot so and I've experienced a lot of experienced good teams, I've experienced bad teams.

I've experienced a championship, I've experienced not making playoffs, like I've really experienced I feel like everything and so and I've experienced good vets, I've experienced bad vets.

So I feel like I've just learned with experience and like what I've seen works and doesn't work, So you'll you'll learn those skills and as your season keeps going, like we're only in December, so you still have quite a few months.

Speaker 5

To keep learning.

Speaker 1

Well, thank you.

That was really good advice.

Yeah, that is mean that I do.

I feel like I'm trying to figure out the balance between.

But I think I've been airing more on the side of caution and like letting them feel it out and figure it out.

But I think I need to air more on the say something and if they want me to shut up, those times to shut up, you know.

Yeah, So, what's the best advice you've ever gotten from a vet that's actually stuck with you.

Speaker 4

I feel like the main advice, which is gonna sound like obvious, but I do feel like in the league sometimes people aren't this I had.

I think I believe it was Caro loss in it.

And now she probably won't remember doing this, but like as a rookie or you know, second year young player, like it really stuck with me.

It was just like she basically told me to be as honest as I possibly can.

Like I feel like people, really, like I said before, tiptoe round things.

Right, it's like, oh, I don't know if this works, and I don't know if this is cool, and it's just like no, like we're all adults in the league, right, it's a job at the end of the day.

And I think her advice was just like see it as that, like if something is going wrong, to say it and to be honest about it.

Like if if everyone's fake on a team or is like beating around the bush, nothing's gonna happen.

And if you really want to be successful, like you got to be straightforward, you gotta be honest, And I think that leads to that respect and like having each other's back.

So I think that's what we did, especially in Chicago the year that we won with each other, like we were very upfront, we were very honest.

There was good days and there was bad days because of it.

Like there's gonna be days that people don't like each other because of it.

But that's what it took to win a championship.

Speaker 5

So that's beautiful.

No, truly, thanks, thanks care.

Speaker 1

Now we're gonna do our what's the fud of the week or what's the fun of the week?

Is something that happened this week or recently that made you go like, what the fun?

So Steph is our guest.

I think you should go first.

What is your what the fud of the week?

Speaker 4

Mine would be it was a good what the fun?

Because I was on the street in York City and these teenage boys walk by and I was taking a picture and they said smash.

Speaker 5

I was like, I still got it, smash.

Speaker 2

Smash was crazy.

Speaker 3

I know.

Speaker 5

My girlfriend was taking a picture and.

Speaker 3

She's like.

Speaker 2

Say that and I was like, listen, hot, mama, is that good?

Speaker 5

It's good?

Speaker 3

Right?

Speaker 2

I know that's great.

That's a very New York story.

Great with the fun, perfect.

Speaker 5

No notes, No one, you guys don't have one.

Speaker 2

That's it, girl, that one, because that's that's the What the fuck?

No, I think she's got it.

That takes it the crown.

Speaker 5

Okay, smash smash.

Speaker 2

Did they do the hand move it too?

Speaker 5

I don't know.

I was taking a picture.

I was just poking for a picture.

Speaker 2

What were you wearing?

Were you all dressed up?

Yeah?

Speaker 4

Yeah, we were going to the rockets, So I was like, I had a nice outfit on it for coat.

But I got cackled a few times that night.

I'm not gonna I was little feel myself.

I know I was not happy.

An old man cat call any day.

Speaker 2

Okay, that's a great one.

The fun all right.

Speaker 3

So our next fudding game is called fudd or dud.

Fud means it's fire, it's lit, it's a yes.

Dud means it's no.

Speaker 2

All right.

First situation, post players get the worst whistle in basketball?

Are doe?

I guess it's like, yes, oh so true?

Speaker 5

Easily?

Do you want do I explain as well?

If you want to?

Speaker 4

If you want to, no, I mean we're whether we're bigger than someone or slower than someone.

If we just touch a guard, like say, I get switched on to a guard.

I can touch on easy foul, right, But a guard gets switched on to me and they're just like punching me in the God forbid, I turned my elbow and they fly.

It's a foul on me too.

There's no posts get the most calls easy.

Speaker 1

I mean that, that's a great I'm gonna go with her on this one.

Speaker 2

I feel like we get Yeah, I'm gonna go with her on this one.

That's true.

Thank you.

It's hard.

We've got a battery.

Speaker 5

Oh, don't don't even starting on guards to next switch.

Speaker 3

Yeah, next, If a guard switches on to you, you're required to score.

Speaker 5

That's a tough one.

Speaker 4

I feel like I would say fudd But at the same time, I'm it's gonna sound sad, but I'm more of a dud just because I don't like when when a guard switches onto a post and everyone's staring at it.

It's like everyone knows what's happening.

If we don't pass you the ball get out and someone else has a mismatch, you know what I mean.

Like, so, I'm a little bit both on that.

That's a tough one.

Speaker 2

I think it depends on your personal Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 1

I'm definitely that guard that's staring like you're the guard on that guard.

Speaker 3

Sorry, okay, okay, hitting one three makes you a stretch big.

Speaker 2

This is hilarious.

Speaker 5

Done, Doug.

Speaker 4

Don't ask my teammates that because they hit one three and they're like, yeah, get back on defense.

Speaker 5

You made one three, Like get.

Speaker 2

Back yes for me, yeah, dud.

Rookies should carry bags.

Speaker 4

In college or in the league, or I guess rookies is in college.

That's freshman, so you meant the league either one?

Okay, done?

Speaker 5

Not done?

Either way.

Done.

I can care aunt bag.

I don't need to care about bags.

Speaker 2

You're sweet.

Speaker 1

I feel like coming from Yukon, I'm expecting, like a fun I'm expecting.

I don't know every time when I was when I was a freshman, it was like freshman, do this, freshman, juty that, get the bags, do this, and so I'll be prepared either way.

Speaker 5

The league has changed a little bit.

Speaker 4

When I was a rookie, for sure, we had to carry all the carry on bags because we used to carry the shoes and the jerseys as carry ons.

But now it's like with charter flights, like it's just everything's a little bit different.

So it's a little bit, you know, it's a little bit nicer, and every team has a lot more staff, so when bags come in and out.

Speaker 5

There like some of them not much of a chance.

Speaker 3

Okay, talking on defense should be mandatory, I mean fun fun.

Yeah, for sure, three on three basketball is harder than five on five done.

Speaker 4

I think five on five is like there's just so many more things going on.

There's so much more congestion, and the paint it's fast, Well it's not faster, but it's like it's faster in a different way because of the full court.

Speaker 5

So it's just for sure, I think it's harder.

Speaker 1

I think three on three is harder.

Really, it's just so tiring.

Speaker 2

Off that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, there definitely is a lot more going on in five on five.

Speaker 2

Bigs who passed don't get enough credit.

Fun.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I think it's a fun.

But I think it's becoming a little bit better lately.

I do think us bigs who pass are getting a little bit more credit than it used to be because a few years ago I felt like there was no there was no bigs who could pass, And now all of a sudden, every big is really good at passing.

Speaker 5

So I'm like there's you know, that's how it works.

Speaker 4

It's kind of like, you know, you make one through your stretch post, you make one good pass, It doesn't mean you're a good passing post.

Speaker 5

You know, call a spade a space.

Speaker 2

You did that one good pass.

Yeah, now your point guard exactly.

Speaker 5

Now this is everyone.

Speaker 3

Everyone, Okay, celebrating a wide open layup is acceptable.

Speaker 2

That's a dude for me.

I mean, I'm.

Speaker 1

Gonna all your layups if you were in a layup slump, I understand, except I not anymore.

But previously I was in a layup slump.

Speaker 4

So I was gonna say, that's so funny because I was just gonna say, who, if you're in a layup slump, should you be playing?

Speaker 5

When was this slump?

I've been watching you guys as games.

I don't remember seeing you take one layup into games or two, you know one, I.

Speaker 2

Mean the clunk it off the backboard, but hear me out.

I was like, it's a pass.

Who was behind her?

Speaker 5

It's all right.

Speaker 4

I'm sure everyone forgot about it.

I'm sure you made four threes after it.

Speaker 2

So definitely forgot about it.

Yeah, I hope they forgot about it.

Anyways, moving on.

Speaker 3

Next one, if you don't set screens, you shouldn't shoot.

Speaker 5

That's probably a fun.

Speaker 4

Because everyone needs to set some type of screen, unless you're like a point guard, but you might be setting like a cross screen for a big and I love a guard who sets a good screen for a post player.

Speaker 1

I love setting good screens like when you when you get hit, like when you know you said a good one.

Yeah, that's probably one of the best things for me in basketball.

Speaker 3

Same same, So I'm also gonna go fud on this, Okay, budds all around.

Last one, every team needs one bet who argues with refs.

Speaker 4

I'd say dud only because I would change the verbiage and just say one player, because not every team needs a vet to argue.

Sometimes you need the vets to not argue because you know all the young ones are going to argue or someone's gonna.

Speaker 5

Argue, so you need a levelhead of the vet.

Speaker 2

Good.

Speaker 5

But if it was that, then I'd say fun, But I'd still say done.

Speaker 1

I'm gonna go dud or I'll go fun because I'm the teammate that is entertained by their teammates arguing with refs.

Speaker 2

I'm crying, I'm crying.

Speaker 1

All right, that is all we have today.

Steph, thank you so much for joining us.

This was so much fun.

Speaker 5

Thanks for having me at.

Speaker 1

A blast Everyone's thank you so much for listening today, and don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe to Futter Around and find Out wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 2

We will see you guys next week.

Speaker 1

Futter Around and find Out is a production of iHeart Women's Sports and Unanimous Media.

Executive producers are Jesse Katz, Eric Payton, Charla Sumter Brugette, and Stephan Curry.

Co executive producer is Kelena Maria Cutney.

Producers are Mike Costcarelli, Grace Hughs and Mackenzie Fitzpatrick, and co producers are Kurt Redmand, Maya Howard and Jacqueline Schoeninger.

This podcast is edited by Mike Costcarelli and hosted by me Aizy Fudd and Ashaunty Plummer.

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