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Naples Condensed: Getting There and Getting Around

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Hello and welcome back to another episode of Only a Bag in Italy travel Podcast.

I'm Nathaniel Melor.

And I'm Darcy Melton.

And today, we're going to be kicking off our Naples condensed episodes 1-2 and three.

I should just go ahead and add this.

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I'll go back and listen to the other ones.

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This is just simply to condense all the information you've already learned into a shorter, more easily digestible 330 minute segments.

Essentially, yes.

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I feel like a like an announce, like a ringside announcer.

It's like Paul Bettany and King like Knight's Tale.

Nice.

You know, yeah, I mean.

Sure, I like it.

He's got a great character in that movie.

Chalsa.

Chalsa Chancellor.

Chancellor.

Right.

Like the like the writer.

OK, I'm like, it's not there's not chancer.

Right?

That's great.

That'd be crazy.

OK, so Naples condensed 1.

I think we're just gonna pretty much go through these in more or less, I guess, a chronological order of how we started the the series.

Yeah, absolutely.

So in this episode we're going to be talking about how to get to Naples and getting around Naples.

Perfect, Darcy, How would I get to Naples?

Well, there are many ways to get to Naples.

You can get there by train, by air or by ferry.

So are you headed by sea right there, OK.

Sea by sea by land.

Yeah.

All right, one.

Of by land, 2 of by sea.

There we go.

Thank you, Paul Revere is what it was in my head.

Oh my God.

Sorry, just.

Riding around in your head.

It really is.

That was.

It's weird.

Why so?

National treasure, that's why.

That thank you.

I knew something.

Not because you really like, not because you Revere Paul.

Y'all already officer, Silly story.

I apologize if this is your first introduction to our podcast.

I am deeply sorry.

And we're usually we're pretty silly.

We're silly, goofy folks.

We're silly, goofy folks.

There's lots of facts.

That's going to be on our T-shirts if we ever make those.

So, yes, so you can get there by sea, by air or by train, OK.

A lot of people will obviously get there by by train because I think a lot of people kind of sleep on the airport, meaning 100% they don't know about it and or don't use it.

It's a great airport.

I highly recommend it.

We'll get into that in a second.

But you can get there by train, which a lot of people do from Rome, what have you.

You could also do, we'll talk about this I guess in the next sort of condensed, but from the train station you can get around to do day trips and things like that.

Yes, no.

And I think that the so the train station is a pretty central location.

Couple things we do mention the train station.

There are two train stations, Chintrale and Afragola.

Nope, Afragola every time in my head it's Afragola.

It's Afragola because I'm I always remember like oh, it's like the strawberry.

It is not.

Afrigola is not the one you want.

That is a much more nicer modern train station outside of slightly outside of Naples, like the the area you want to be in.

It's when I say slightly outside, I mean slightly outside, like in terms of car driving.

It is, it is outside.

Yeah, not at all.

It is.

And so if you happen to, if you pull in and that's usually the first one, not all trains will go there, but it's typically the first one you go to and you're going to see Napoli and you might just be like, oh, that must be it.

It is not it, as we've mentioned in the previous episode on getting there, we often do see tourists kind of like, oh, it does not believe this is it.

Let's get off and now realize that that's the wrong one.

Or even sometimes having a ticket for that one and not realizing that they probably should have had a ticket for Tintrale unless there's something specific that they're looking for.

But it's not even near the town of Afragola.

So it or the Fratcione, the neighborhood of Afragola.

So it's really in the middle of nowhere.

What you will want is not bleach Tintrale, which is just one more on the line.

And it's also considered a Napoli Garibaldi because it's in the Garibaldi Piazza just behind it is or to the right behind it is also the bus stop.

So our bus station, which is kind of a glorified parking lot, if we're being honest.

Yeah, it's a bus parking lot.

It's a bus parking lot, yeah.

Yeah.

So it's not or anything crazy in in the sense of like if you are taking a bus from T Bertina in Rome or something like that.

Or you know, if you're basically if you're choosing to see like Italy by Rd.

rather than by train, if you prefer buses to trains, then you'll be pulling into the exact same place in Naples.

So it's a little bit easier 'cause I think in Rome you might leave out of Termini for the train instead of to Bertina for the bus.

But in Naples it's a central location.

Super, super simple.

Yeah, I agree.

Airport though.

Yeah.

And Speaking of buses at the train station, you can get the bus to the airport.

The is it called something specific Airbus?

The Ali bus Ali.

So you can get that that's right outside the station, that's not in the bus parking lot.

It comes right to the front of the train station and you can take that bus to get to the airport if you need to.

And I believe it's €5 per person.

You can get the tickets on board or ahead of time.

It is a first come, first serve.

It's something I actually did not mention in that previous episode.

It is first come, first serve.

You cannot reserve a space, you cannot reserve a ticket, anything like that.

So if you have it really tight, if you're like, I'm going to barely make this like bus or, and, or flight, it makes sense to get to that bus as early as humanly possible because once it's full, it's full and it will not leave until the next one, which is I think every 15 minutes they run the bus.

Or if you really are in a rush and if you have luggage and it's hard for you to carry around, I highly recommend taxi.

I said that's in the transportation episode that we did about Naples.

I'm not usually one to highly recommend taxis like especially for people on a budget, but they are affordable in in Naples and it gets you to the airport so fast.

It's around 20.

It should.

Be a flat €20 unless you book through like free now or something like that That where I do think they add on a little extra.

But it should be like I think legally by set by the city.

It's a flat 20 Yeah, from from the city to the to the airport.

But like from from the train station, it should just be a flat 20.

And there is a taxi stand at the train station.

So if you're also and we'll talk about this in the next condensed episode about staying and we'll talk about a look at the train station as a potential place to stay or that area to stay.

It is nice because it's very much like the beating heart in terms of transportation, not necessarily in terms of like a fun place to stay, but if you were doing day trips or anything like that and you just need to get in and out it, it's kind of a nice place to stay.

I agree.

So the airport.

So the airport, it's a great airport.

I highly recommend it.

It's awesome.

It's very modern.

Getting through security whenever I went through there last time, it was very efficient.

Everybody was lovely.

One thing that we want to note to everybody, if you're heading, if you're leaving from Naples to go to the US, specifically the international gate for the US is basically like a waiting room and there's nothing there.

So once you pass the, is it passport control, passport control to get to that specific area, you can't get back out, like you can't leave passport control.

There's a bathroom over there.

When I was near, the water fountain was not working and there's one little coffee cart with not great options.

So it's kind of a barren landscape over there.

So if you want to grab some pastries, if you want to pick up some mozzarella to bring home to your family, you want to get some soyatello, which we've talked about any of that stuff, grab a coffee.

Do that before you get to that US international gate.

Absolutely it is, yeah.

And but that being said, they will say for the rest of the airport, even in general, if you don't go through passport control, it is genuinely like a decent airport.

It's quite small.

It's very much a, I feel like the airport was built well before Naples was people are visiting Naples that make sense because it's they do not, they did not build it for the amount of tourism they get.

And I I will say though, again, that is almost a a benefit for it because it's much more relaxed.

It's much more not relaxing like in a madhouse sense, just relaxed in a sense of like it's they're they're basically like arriving at the airport.

There will be screens along the entire way telling you how long the wait is at the security line from where you currently are.

Like so right here, standing here and walking to the security line expected to take 15 minutes or something like you know that that'll be the kind of the idea they are modernizing.

We talked about EES.

So they are modernizing with the entry exit system as well as every other airport will be.

But that is going to make things ideally a little bit smoother.

But I think mainly we talked about this in a couple maybe almost months ago now we because now recordings ahead of time, but we talked about planning a trip and some people like to do the north to South S to N things like that.

And I think some people will leave out or arrive to Rome and consider that the furthest southern point.

However, if we may throw Naples hat in the ring for contention, it is they do have a lot of flights, especially from the states.

I know that like they are adding more direct flights from the states.

They already have a pretty decent amount of flights from England.

I I don't think they have any direct obviously from Australia that be insane because I don't know if any, I mean generally besides maybe Rome has a couple direct flights, but I think a lot of those are layover somewhere And I think I don't know about Canada either.

So I'm thinking for the, for most of our listeners, I know that United States and I know that a lot of like Delta, for instance, opened up a bunch of routes this past summer 2025.

I also know that American Airlines does a ton of flying in and out of Naples as well.

But if I may though, just one last thing on it, keep in mind that not all planes or plane configurations will fly out of Naples.

Both it is a shorter runway, I believe and they have different noise decibel levels they can't surpass because it's so close, I think to the city.

So certain size planes can't fly out of Naples, which is only important because we've talked about certain planes that we like the Airbus A330I think which because it has a the 242 seat breaking apart and we like to sit together without anybody near us.

So we kind of like to sit the two seats on the on the aisle rather than any of the four seats in the middle.

But I'm pretty sure they don't fly out of Naples given their size.

I think they're too loud.

At least I've never found one flying out of Naples.

All the all the companies that usually fly Airbuses fly a Boeing out of there.

So these are just things of like if you're kind of concerned about where you're going to sit or what kind of plane you're on or what kind of seat configuration or whatever it is just to look into because there's if you don't see it flying into Naples, it's because it might not.

That's a good tip.

But that being said, it is genuinely, it's such a chill airport.

I just especially for flying out, it's, it just makes it a lot easier.

It's just very little stress.

Yeah, absolutely.

And fancy too.

And fancy too, yeah, I mean.

It's, I mean, it's small, but it's fancy.

Yeah, they're not.

They're not.

I don't want you to think back Water airport, I do like it is modernized.

It is sort of like they just put a bunch of money into a very small airport rather than making rather than putting a bunch of money into a bad airport to make it bigger, if that makes sense.

Yes.

Absolutely.

So Speaking of ports, would you like to talk about the seaports?

The seaports.

The seaports, so there are two of them.

I don't know what accent I'm doing.

English people are cringing so hard.

Like, what do Americans always do?

Terrible accents.

I that was my apparently it's my English accent.

It's the English accent I give to people.

It's a very American accent.

I'm so sorry everybody.

So there are two seaports.

Yes.

One of them I always forget that they're separated by different things, right they're.

Kind of separated by like some area, like just land more than.

Anything else but but certain kinds of boats come to.

I think one has specifically.

I do believe cruises will only cruise ships only come to one of them and not the other.

And I don't remember which is which but their their names are Molo Bevarello and the Calanta Porta de Masa Colada Porta de Masa and Molo Bevarello in a very American accent.

So if.

If you need to spell.

It yeah, because I realize it's easier to spell with, with hitting all of the hard continents rather than soft continents.

And I, I think like 1 has like hydrofoils and the other one has more ferries.

One has the cruise ship, the other one doesn't.

So just checking that out because again, I'm, I'm only saying that because they're quite close to each other.

But if you happen to be taking a cruise to Naples or if you happen to be taking a ferry out early to Copper or something like that, just to make sure that if you are like getting lodgings there.

We'll talk about this in the next episode about, you know, staying at the port to make sure you're near the right one.

Yeah, exactly.

Because they don't like that.

I was saying they are close together but they are not the same.

So it's not necessarily like oh if you at the wrong 1 you just do a quick little 2 minute job to the other.

It is farther than that, right?

Yes, and I think we've talked about this too, the Salerno, not that it's a Salerno episode at all, but those ports are farther apart, even though again, they are you can get ferries from both of them.

You can get, no, I don't think any cruise, maybe a cruise ship comes into the with a bigger one, but essentially, but it's still like they're farther apart.

It's closer together than that, but I think it's also because these ports are much more like in Salar, another port for for ferries, simply just literally walking out to the end of a concrete pier and stepping on a boat.

The one in Naples is a bit more like there are passport controls, there are gates and fences.

And because if you're coming from out of the frame of international, they have to have.

I had not even thought about that.

Entry, exit system, things like that.

So and there's a lot of like checks for like trucks and any cars that might have come off.

So it's a bit more built up, it's a lot more of like infrastructure.

So that's something to keep in mind if you're if you happen to get in the wrong one that you might you want to pop away and get to the other one.

Okay, really good to know.

Yeah.

So do you want to talk about getting around to Naples now?

Yeah, why not?

Okay, so if you have arrived at the port and you're thinking how do I get to Naples, never fear, it's actually quite close to the city.

Can you walk from the port into the city of Naples?

I mean, you could if you wanted.

To, I mean, technically you're in Naples when you get to the port.

Yeah, OK.

It's not like like Rome or anything like that where you're in a different city.

You're very much in the in the city.

The city of Naples, it's like, really, It is attached.

And once you leave the port, you'll be pretty much like kind of, it depends where, but you'll kind of be at the southern end of the Chanter stortico.

Yeah, exactly.

Near the castle Dovo, right.

It's kind of near the.

Port.

Yeah, it depends exactly.

Castle Dovo.

Castle Nolvo as well is near the port Which.

Are two different castles, even though they sound very similar.

I've learned a lot about those castles of the course of this little mini series.

And yeah, so that you'll you'll basically arrive in town.

It's so if you just want, if you're also something where if you do happen to arrive by ferry from either in like Barcelona or something like that and you just want to kind of walk straight in, you can you're, you're there.

You don't have to take anything else, right?

So you can also take a taxi.

There are taxis are a really easy way if you need to get if you have luggage and stuff to get from the port to your hotel.

We've talked about this before, but Naples is great for walking around, but it is not super if you are someone who has a heavy suitcase that you cannot carry.

If you're someone who uses a wheelchair or mobility device, it's very cobblestone Y so it just keep that in mind depending on what your needs are.

So you might want to take a taxi if you have a heavy suitcase or something like that.

Buses you can take.

So let's, let's move into the city.

So you, you've come from the port, you're in the city.

You can take buses around Naples.

How do we feel about buses in Naples?

It is.

They are.

We've talked about buses in Rome in a very positive manner because it can be chaos.

But there are bus lanes in Rome.

They do tend to get the right of way.

They do tend to run on time more or less usually within 10 minutes of sometimes it's super late but then the other next bus.

But they do tend to run pretty on time around rush hour.

They could be kind of strange, but in Naples most of the tourism areas don't have bus lines, dedicated bus lines.

They're stuck in traffic.

Yeah, the streets are just too small.

Yeah, it's, it's a little bit there.

There's signs for buses are a little bit less clear.

They're not as kind of clear about what's coming when and which direct.

And it's a little bit less, it's a little more obfuscated.

Google Maps still works, but because the buses themselves are less sort of consistent, I think it's a less consistent or reliable form of transportation.

Yeah, I agree.

It is also.

I mean, there's also an argument to me too, that a lot of when we talk about we, we talk about getting around Naples.

Well, when we first talked about getting around Naples or even we talked about like what to do in Naples, we talked about walking.

We, we talk, we talk about walking a lot for Naples, because a lot of it is kind of tiny streets in the chance historical or the tiny streets of the Spanish Quarter or going up into Vomero Hill or walking along the waterfront of Kiaya.

So wherever you are, you're pretty much walking.

And I think with the bus, it's, it's if you're using them specific, if you have like a specific intent, like, all right, to save some money, to save 8090 bucks a night.

We we stayed a little bit north in, in, in Naples, like still firmly in Naples, but just a little bit outside of the the busyness.

So we're going to take a bus down every day until wherever that I think is a valid form of using a bus.

But by and large, I find that they're bit not like not, not not trustworthy, but like you can't reliable, not reliable.

Yeah.

So I think which is all simple to say they are when you get out a slightly outside that main area, they are because there are bus lanes and then they kind of things start opening up a little bit.

So obviously for people living and working in Naples, they work really well.

But if you're visiting Naples, it's kind of like you can't really take a bus to the Spanish Quarter.

They can't go on via Toledo, which is a really popular walking street.

They can't go through the chance historical like in any in any way that actually matters.

Spock on Napoli, which we talked about is the Naples splitter.

It's the street that splits Naples.

I think that's pedestrian or not pedestrian only, but like, not buses.

I think cars can go there, but buses can.

So yeah, I think this is all simply to say that buses are a valid option, but it's not one that I would recommend using unless you have a specific use in mind and you know what you're doing.

Yeah, I agree.

And if you are dedicated to trying to take a bus, if you arrive at the port, there are, I just want to make a note, there are bus stops outside of the port.

They're not you.

Like if you have heavy luggage or anything like that, you will have to walk a bit to get, you know, up to the Main Street that goes kind of around in the at the edge of the city where it meets the port.

You can get a bus there just as a note.

That's there also, I think I'm I'm actually going to look at the map just for for for for clarity.

Munichipio is a a local going into subways is a local subway stop.

It's a, it looks like municipal Munichipio is the probably the closest to both of the ports.

If you happen to be arriving and you're going to be going straight out on a, on a basically, if you're like, OK, I know where we need to kind of go and we are down the subway line.

You can kind of walk straight there.

It's not a long walk.

It's a 5 minute walk maybe.

And then you go straight to Monichibio and then you know, you're then you can get to wherever you're going from there so that the port is connected by both bus alibus as well.

The one that goes brings to the airport, you can take it.

If for some reason you're staying around like the the train station, you can actually take the alibus from the port to the train station because it originates at the port, then goes to the train station, then goes to.

The airport.

That's super neat, so.

You can take a dedicated bus as well.

There are ways of getting around.

So the port is again it wants a bit like industry right in the middle of the old city.

It is there is way.

There are ways to access the city from it that are very pain free, if that makes sense.

Yeah, awesome.

So if you choose to take the subway, let's talk about the subway in in the city of Naples.

OK.

It is.

It is there.

It is there, yes.

It has several stops.

You can use it to get around a bit like the buses.

It's not as reliable as some other major cities.

They don't.

It seems to me that the the metros don't come like that, that trains themselves.

They don't come as often as in some other cities.

We've it's always crowded, I think because they don't come as often and people need to use it.

So it's just constantly packed.

The vibe is aesthetically.

New York in the 80s, it is very, very loud and they always have the windows, you know, those little top windows open.

It's not a modern train car essentially.

And I think.

I mean, and I think there's some are, but most of them are not.

OK, but some are.

I think some are.

I think they're like they have, they have.

They use old rolling stock as well as newer rolling stock, but by and large most of it is older.

I don't know if they're they're currently still working on the subway system.

We talked about this before.

It looks like a loop.

It's not a loop.

They're trying to make it into a loop so that you can have trains kind of running both ways constantly in a loop, which makes sense, rather than like point to point, which is what Rome does.

For example.

They have not completed the loop.

I think by 2026 they they want to finish it.

2020.

6 next year yeah and super soon yeah which and that could change it and also assume like I think a lot of other people zoom they're going to get new rolling stock then because they're like why not just update everything when you finish the loop?

But right now looks like they're they're spending money specifically on finishing the thing they're not going to spend money on newer trains, especially in a year or two.

If newer better whatever more efficient trains come out.

However, that being said, for the subways, I do recommend it on certain ones like via Toledo for instance, has I thought just as a fascinating stop for writer reasons.

One, it's the deepest subway stop in in Italy, a 4445 meters I believe, which is just straight down.

It's just escalators over a yawning open space.

There's nothing.

Good way to describe it.

It is a void.

Yeah, it is.

But I will also mention too or one dimension too, that so the Naples subway stations are a lot of the ones in the tourism area especially are art subway station, a gallery, subway stations, this kind of thing.

They did they hired artists, I think in the early, late arts, early teens, early 20 teens of for basically not decorating but designing really beautiful subway stations.

I think via Toledo, Speaking of is often voted in Europe as one of those beautiful subway stations.

So it's worth it like to to be it for there.

And it's just again, I, I, I do keep pushing this because if you're coming from Rome especially, we've talked about the Rome subway stations, our subway stops, subway system rather a lot for being super quick.

It's like every two minutes there's a subway.

So if you miss one or a metro.

So if you miss one, you're not waiting around a long time.

Even if it's packed with people, it's, there's constantly coming.

It's just the one in Naples kind of felt like if you miss it, you might as well walk because you'll get there sooner.

And it yeah.

One cool thing though is that according to me, not according to very specific terms, but the Naples subway station is the oldest in Italy, right or not sorry system yes, because before it was technically a metro, it was an underground train yes.

So people say that the Rome Metro is the oldest metro in Italy, right?

But that's.

Technically, when it was built, it was built as a metro system, not as an underground train system.

But I think Naples wins because they had a actual train under the ground.

Like in the 30s, I think, yeah, yeah, no, it's a while.

And then of course, later, much later, 20-30 years later, they were like, OK, what about if it's the metro?

And actually on that note, there are various train stations in Naples that are regional train stations.

So not Chintrale, which there is a Chintrale one as well and not Afragola.

But there are other tiny ones in Naples that essentially are regional train stations, sort of like how I don't know if you like in Rome, for example, Justevere has a station that you probably never used because you wouldn't use, but there's a regional train that goes there that brings people from outside of Rome into the Tristevere region, southern Tristevere.

So it's not like where you might have seen like with all the, the, the sort of popular tourism area.

Ostienza is another station which has, I think like 1 train, couple trains leaving Rome to other places.

But by and large, it are there regional trains going around Rome.

So like Rome is an example place that has like 4 or five different stations in Rome that you've probably never heard of because it's just for people going in and out of Rome to the neighborhoods.

Naples is the same way.

However, if you happen to have a hotel booked near one of them, you could absolutely use it to get to other places in Naples, if that makes sense.

So it's it's, I just say that in sense of like, if you're like, I can't rely on this on the metro, but if you happen to be near, I can't think of the stations on top of my head.

I apologize.

But if basically it's it's it's still how it works is if you're in Naples and taking that train to somewhere in Naples, you only pay metro price.

You don't pay?

That's cool train price if that makes sense.

And so it's like taking like if the LIRR went through a couple different.

Stops of New York.

It's exactly taking LIR from Atlantic, the Atlantic stop in Brooklyn, Atlantic City I think is what it is in Brooklyn or something like that.

Atlantic Terminal, Atlantic Terminal, Brooklyn to Penn Station.

Yeah, but you only pay the metro price.

Exactly.

That's exactly what it's like.

Thank you.

That's that's brilliant.

Or if you're in the South taking the Amtrak but don't imagine it's Amtrak, Amtrak's not very nice.

Like into a couple stops in Atlanta or something instead of using their Marta system?

Thank you.

I don't get that one nearly as well, but yes.

I know a lot about trains and stuff.

Apparently not really.

So yeah, so that that works.

Yeah, that's just simply to say too that, yeah, exactly.

That's just.

There are various ways of transporting, like almost hidden ways that you might not necessarily notice, if that makes sense.

Speaking of fun hidden transport, let's talk about funiculars.

Yeah, I like funiculars.

Me too.

They're fun.

I like them just because it's like a fun ride.

Yes, you know, it's like, it's like a roller coaster without the scary parts.

It just goes up or down depending.

Yeah, exactly, but very slowly.

Yeah, it's actually sort of.

That was interesting too.

They're listed as true funiculars because they have a counterweight system, which is so cool.

Yeah, rather than like AI guess the other ones have reels at one side and the other.

So it kind of winds up and then winds down or something like that.

I'm not sure.

Like a motor that pulls it up or down potentially.

And this is more of a counterweight system.

It's genuinely, it's actually silly, but it's a lot of fun with, I say with kids or anybody who likes funiculars, it's kind of just fun because you're in some of it's in a tunnel tunnel, but most of it's not in a tunnel and you're just slowly going up and it's a bit windows everywhere.

So you can kind of see where you're going.

You can the view gets better and better as you go up.

It's kind of just a fun way.

There are three that you'll.

There's one that you're.

Probably one that you'll likely.

Take that you want to.

Take if you want to take a funicular and if you want to see something cool.

And that's what Vomero Hill.

That's the one on Vomero Hill, essentially from just out.

The main station for that is just outside Galleria Umberto, which is via Toledo.

So which?

Is the Spanish Quarter.

Spanish Quarter, yeah, it's kind of the end of the Spanish Quarter.

There's a beautiful old station because the I think that's the original funicular.

It's it's like 19-O2 original.

Station right, Original.

Station and the original funicular for for Naples, not like the original funicular for like the world.

And so it's so that the original station and it goes up to the top of Omero Hill, which is where if you're going to go to like Castle Santa Santa Elmo, yeah, that's where you would take it.

We've also mentioned before if you if you you can take that one way and then take the patrio the other way, which is a walking path.

It might make sense to take the patrio down and the funicular up because you kind of get the both the best of both worlds in that way.

Easier walk, put up more interesting funicular ride.

I think going down, it's not bad, but there's something of going up.

It really feels like really kind.

Of if you're like Darcy though, and you've been walking around a lot and you have bad knees and walking down hurts.

In fact, you can't take the funicular both ways.

Yes you can.

I like that slipping in the bad knees.

I'm 30, I have bad knees now.

I don't know what is up with my knees y'all.

Sometimes they really hurt going down.

That's crazy.

So the funicular I'm just going.

To moving on from my knees, yes.

Sorry, moving.

I was also say that there are there's another one.

Kiya has another one also the top of Omero.

There's also like a Metalina has one, but only goes up top of Metalina.

You probably won't be there.

So it's there are other funiculars, but essentially there's only the the main one is I think it's called Chintrale and that is the central line.

So that's the oldest, but it's also the most usable one.

In terms of doing it, It's the same price as AI believe the same white price as subway ride.

It should be.

Last I checked, which was very recently, all sent transportation in Naples runs off the same price.

So a subway ride, bus ride, tram ride, a funicular are all the same price and you're like tram?

Is there a tram in Naples?

I'm assuming that's what you said.

I don't.

Know I was thinking that.

There is technically, it's nowhere near the tourism area.

It's not something you'll probably use.

So again, this is just simply like in I.

Can we compare it to Rome?

Because you might be coming from Rome and think they're kind of similar to big cities.

It's just I think Rome definitely was built with public transportation in mind.

They have a very complete.

System, that's the thing, they have a very complete system.

And I think on the other hand, I think that Naples, it's not that wasn't built with mind just was built before public transportation.

So it was just sort of like, how do you sort of cobble it in there?

And they didn't, really.

I think too, this is conjecture, but in in Naples people and in a lot of places too, but people very much stick to their neighborhoods.

So if people are sticking to their neighborhoods, they live, they work, they shop in their neighborhood, they don't necessarily need to get across town all the time.

So I I'm guessing that like the needs didn't beg for such a complete subway system.

Like old, again, using New York City as an example of that old school New York City thing is like once you have your neighborhood, you don't leave your neighborhood.

It's like, why would you ever leave the neighborhood?

You have everything you need in a four block distance.

So it's like, what's what do you, what do you need in lower Manhattan?

So I think there's that, that aspect still in Naples where you literally have everything you need in a in a 5 minute walk.

Exactly.

And I think that if I'm not mistaken though, that is the last transportation system.

Yeah, we really highly recommend that if you're able to, to walk around Naples.

It is the best way to see and experience the city, I think.

It definitely is.

And I just want to also last little notes about the port because I looked it up actually while we're talking about this, it's a bit deeply confusing.

It is.

It is, yeah.

It's ask a taxi driver.

I'm lie.

It's like there are 8 different pins on Google Maps of each port kind of thing.

I mean they're all like, oh, it's this port.

I'm like, but where is it?

And they do have Moldo Bevarello as the that's listed as the port for cruise ships with the the Carlotta Puerto de Massa is listed as the one for ferries is how they have it differentiated even though when I looked into it before you can get ferry ships out of Molo Bevarello in either case.

And it's it's near ish by the way to castle Castle del Ovo but not really that's the one that's closer.

Castle del Ovo has a port.

It's not one that you're going to go to, it's a different one.

It's there are literally so many ports and docks all the way up that coast.

It's just not one you'll use.

However, they are also still, I think actually at Castle Oval, they're building a subway stop there as well.

So there it's like, if you listen to this in the future, not in whatever, October, November of 2025, you will be like, oh, they have that thing now.

So keep they're basically they're constantly renovating and updating, expanding.

So it's something, if you do see this in the future, it might be in a totally different way of seeing Naples.

Cool, but so potentially the easiest thing to do if you need to use the port is to use a taxi.

Absolutely, because it's.

Really confusing.

OK, good tip.

That's or bus that's dedicated bring you to the one you need.

Honestly cool.

And that's same thing for ferries.

If you're taking day trips, honestly, just maybe figure out a or potentially some of the ferries might have like a little pin like here's where you get our ferry.

Don't get confused.

That might be better as well.

But otherwise I would almost take a hat taxi or a bus that goes specifically to that one because they are are next to each other quite quite literally.

But you again, if you're one, you're in one.

It's going to take forever to get Taylor one.

This is a good time, I think, to say that get acquainted with Google Maps.

If you don't use this is not, I'm not repping Google.

It's not like an amazing Angel company.

They do bad things.

But if you do get acquainted with using Google Maps, if you don't use that regularly, I highly recommend you use it during your daily life before your trip just to kind of get acquainted with it so that you can use it during your trip.

It is invaluable to be able to use Google Maps to see exactly where you need to go, to track where your train is going, your taxi is going, where you need to walk in order to get places.

It's really I cannot recommend it enough.

Absolutely.

No.

I think that's actually a great like little shout out for a company that doesn't need a shout out.

But for real, it's it's been an invaluable tool.

Absolutely.

And I think that's everything.

Yeah, that's everything we're getting to and around Naples.

Thank you all so much, and we'll see you next week for Part 2 and 3.

Yeah, Tante Abraci.

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