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Speaker 2Kf I AM six forty Bill Handle Here.
It's on a Saturday morning.
Speaker 1It is Thanksgiving weekend, and I hope you're having a good time.
I hope everybody over eight.
And it's really about overeating this Thanksgiving part of it, Thanksgiving or giving of thanks seems to have lost its way and now it is not an excuse but a reason for family to get together.
And it is by far the most favorite family holiday of all of them.
It's kind of neat, you know, for those of you who really love their families, I don't.
And for those of you that gather friends, I don't have any and family together.
So I spent my Thanksgiving ordering pizza and watching football.
And while football was on, there were that many pizza places.
Okay, all kidding aside, I don't even I don't even know if Domino's delivered on Thanksgiving.
I really don't, because I had leftover pizza from a couple of nights before.
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Last week we were jammed the entire show, and so some days we are, some days we're not.
So it we're going to find out because this show is completely caller driven.
This is the reason I don't take phone calls during the week.
Number one, I don't care what your opinion is.
That's the most important one.
And number two is you never know are there going to be calls?
Are there going to be enough calls?
Are there going to be enough quality calls?
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Even though there are some people left over that want to know how to fix the toilet or what kind of roofing to put on the roof with Dean Sharp who gives phenomenal advice, I don't have any advice to give you in terms of clogged plumbing or new roofs or appliance repair or any of that.
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This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice, where I tell you have absolutely no case.
Something really interesting happened in Italy and it hasn't happened in any other.
Speaker 2Country, but it may actually get some legs.
Speaker 1Italy's parliament approved a law that introduces femicide in addition to the normal criminal law.
So let's say someone kills a woman and murder is involved, or second degree murder, manslaughter or whatever what the country's criminal law does.
Speaker 2If a woman dies and the law.
Speaker 1Says that she was killed because she was a woman, basically I hate crime, then it is punishable with life in prison.
Speaker 2Now.
Speaker 1The vote coincided with the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women, which, of course people understand around the world that women don't do so well.
By the way, this is a day that was designated by the UN General Assembly.
One of the things about being a woman, and my wife always mentions this that it is harder to be a woman than it is to be a man in society, and it absolutely is now.
In the case of America, we have about as much equality as any other country, although there still is a glass ceiling and we have yet to have a woman president.
England has had a woman Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher as well as I forgot her name.
Pakistan had a prime minister that was a woman.
Speaker 2So you go around the world and there are women.
Speaker 1Mexico right now has Claudia Shinbaum, a woman, and a Jewish woman on top of that, which is very unusual.
And the United States has yet to do so.
And from what I hear, there is still an anti woman sentiment going through especially the Deep South, although I don't buy that.
I think women have an equal opportunity and it depends on quality.
Oh Hillary Clinton.
Clinton lost because she was a woman.
No, she lost because she wasn't very popular, people didn't like her.
Kamala Harris lost because she was a woman.
No, that's not the reason she lost.
A lot of us felt she was simply unqualified to be president because of the circumstances of Joe Biden, et cetera.
Well, Italy, and Italy now has a woman Prime Minister and it is his woman president as a premier.
Actually, Georgia and Maloney very right wing, and it had her support.
Speaker 2This bill.
Speaker 1It actually had bipartisan support from the center right majority the center left opposition in the final vote.
But since the center right, much like in the United States, actually the far right, but the right wing has control of the legislature here in this country or in Italy, it did pass, and Maloney said, we have doubled funding for anti violence centers and shelters, promoted in emergency emergency hotline, innovated education and awareness raising activities.
And these are concrete steps forward, but we're not going to stop there.
We must continue to do more every day.
And boy do they prove that by making femicide the killing of women as opposed to the killing of men punishable on its own, just the woman part of it, with life in prison.
And the center left opposition ended up supporting the bill because they had no choice, but said that the government only tackles the criminal aspect of the government, leaving economic and cultural divides unaddressed.
So therefore they were against the bill.
Hey, better than nothing, leave me alone.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1So I find that interesting, and I don't know is it going to be the start?
Speaker 2And women do have it rough.
Speaker 1In western countries women are treated with equality, some more than others.
And you go to the Mid East, you go to other places in the world, women are chattel, straight out property.
They just belong to men.
I mean, it is crazy.
Look at the way women are treated in India.
Look at the way women are treated in the Arab countries.
Women are not second class citizens, they are third and fourth class citizens.
And in many cases cattle are treated better than women are.
And there are such thing as honor killings and women being killed, and it's almost impossible to convict a man who does so.
All right, let's take one phone call before the break, and then we'll start moving at a real, real fast pace.
Claire, we'll start with you, Hi, Claire, welcome to handle on.
Speaker 2The law.
Speaker 3Dispute with my cell phone.
Speaker 1Okay, Claire, you got to start all over, Claire, you got to start all over again.
Okay, because the phone the phone didn't kick in, all right, Claire, welcome to handle on the law.
Speaker 4Great, thank you.
Speaker 2I have a dispute with my cell phone company.
Speaker 3My bill is current, but in order to transfer, they want a certain amount, which I disagree with.
Speaker 5Am I better to pay.
Speaker 3Off that amount and then go after them in small claims court or not pay the amount because I'll never get it out of them, okay.
Speaker 1And then you'll never have a phone connection again with your site.
Speaker 2So much?
How much is the amount of money that's owed?
Speaker 6Eight eight?
Speaker 2Okay, so that's real money?
Fair enough?
Okay.
Speaker 1If it was eighty dollars, i'd go suck it up, Claire.
But eight hundred dollars is real money.
I would go ahead and pay it and then take them the small claims court.
Speaker 2Although there's all kinds of.
Speaker 1All kinds of reasons or all kinds of obstacles when you're dealing with a cell company, because you're dealing with the FCC and state laws, so I'm not aware of that.
But if you can't sue them in a small claims court, and I think there is a way, then you go after it and their defense is going to be but you paid it.
Therefore you recognized that you owe the money.
And your argument against that defense is if I didn't pay it, I wouldn't have phone service.
They would cut off my phone.
And if I'm the judge, I'm giving it to you.
So the quick answer is, yeah, I would pay it and then start from there, because can you imagine your phone line being cut off?
And on top of that, when you go to another phone company, they know you didn't pay the bill.
Speaker 2So which way do you go on that?
I would.
Speaker 1Unfortunately, when you're dealing with organizations that can ruin your credit or screw up your life, I think you just you have to pay it.
Well, for example, taxes, property taxes, they're billing you extra money, and the last thing you need is to owe them, pay the money, and then go after them and then start the appeals process.
Speaker 2It's much much easier.
Speaker 1All Right, we'll take a break, come back and we have more Handle on the News.
Speaker 2The phone number is.
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This is Handle on the Law and let's check in with a KFI News Center KFI Am six forty Bill handle here.
It is a Saturday morning on a Thanksgiving weekend.
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four is the number to call eight hundred five two zero one five three four and more.
Speaker 2Handle on the.
Speaker 1Law marginal legal advice, Yo, Eryl, welcome, Hi Bill, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 3We have a man that comes over and fixes things.
Speaker 4He's great.
Speaker 3And when he called and I told him that we had to put off a cabinet because the roof was leaking, he said, well, you know, I used to be a roofer, so he probably is very capable because everything I've seen him done, he's excellent.
He used to build houses.
And he's not licensed, he's not insured.
Do what kind of risk is involved in having him go up on my roof?
Speaker 2Okay, that's a good question.
Speaker 1And if you trust him, he does a good job obviously, no harm, no foul.
He is in more trouble than you are if he is unlicensed uninsured.
The problem is he's uninsured, and if anything happens to the roof, you can go ahead and sue him.
He's got no place to go.
He can't even defend himself.
But you know what kind of money does he have where do you go?
There also may be insurance problems on your home insurance on top of that, where they go not interested?
And the unlicensed part if he's done it before, why wouldn't he be licensed because he hasn't done it in a long time and there are new materials whatever.
You know, it's a risk.
It's like anything else.
You're not very well protected.
There's no bond there in case it goes south that you can go after.
So you're rolling the dice.
However, you're rolling the dice obviously in your favor.
Why because you've known him for many years.
He seems to be really competent in everything else he tells you he used to be a roofer.
And if you don't think he is lying, and I have no idea, I haven't met him.
If you think he is not lying, you know, would I do it?
Speaker 6Yeah?
Speaker 2Maybe I would.
Speaker 1What has to be done on the roof replaced completely or just patched.
Speaker 4Patch?
Speaker 3It's just a leak ah.
Speaker 2Okay, and it's it's not a big deal.
It's what you're saying.
No, I do it, Yeah, I do it.
Speaker 3You know, there's no there My worst falling off the roof, uh.
Speaker 1Well, then that's why God invented insurance is what you do, and you make sure that your home insurance.
You could consider that that I told you initially there may be some issues with insurance there.
Does your insurance policy say that any repair of the roof must be done by a license a license installer?
And if not, thank you, you're gone.
There is no insurance.
But so what I would do is check with your insurance company, and you could argue, this is casual labor, which is covered under your insurance policy.
So the big deal is if that's what your concern is him falling off the Yeah, just call your insurance company or you're broker, or look at your policy real carefully and see if casual labor or see if it's.
Speaker 2Silent on it.
Speaker 1But in the end, yeah, I do it.
You know, I would take the risk, but then I'm a risky kind of guy.
Speaker 2I don't know if that helped.
Speaker 3My agent said, it's fine, go ahead.
Speaker 4And do it.
Speaker 2Then you're done.
Then you're absolutely done.
Speaker 3I wanted you to tip the scale.
Speaker 1Yeah, I've just tipped the scale, and I've tipped it pretty substantially because I weigh over two hundred pounds, all right, Cheryl, that was an excellent question.
Speaker 2And would I have done it?
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 1Hey, let me tell you what else I would do and suggest, and that is, if you have a personal injury, you've been in a car accident or a slip and fall, and it's not your fault at all, where do you go?
I don't know if you Well, of course you have billboards up and down the freeway, tele as you commercials, radio commercials about personal injury lawyers, and some of them are really good and some of them are not.
Speaker 2So how do you know which ones to trust?
Speaker 1And this is why I created handle on the Law dot com to make sure that these lawyers are vetted for one thing, and second of all, if there's a problem, I make the phone call.
I'm the one that yells at the lawyer, and I've done that a few times and they take my phone call for sure.
So if you've been injured, if you've been in a car accident, it's not your fault.
Speaker 2Slip and fall, it's not your fault.
Speaker 1For example, a bunch of boxes coming off a shelf in.
Speaker 2A store, it's not your fault.
Speaker 1Then I'm going to suggest you visit handle on the law dot com.
That's Handle on the law dot Com.
This is KFI.
Speaker 2You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here on a Saturday morning.
Speaker 2Eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
Speaker 1All right, Patricia Yellow, welcome to Handle on the Law.
Yes, Patricia Yellow Yellow, Yes, what can I do for you?
Speaker 7This is Patricia Really Okay, I'm so glad I got through to Bill.
What happened is I bought a home in Alabama and went and paid off the mortgage.
And there was money due back to me from the insurance because they paid it for a full year, and of course I paid it off before that.
Speaker 2The mortgage come from meantime.
Speaker 7I went to cash the check it found okay, and I have been able to get no recourse from this.
Speaker 2Okay, Come all right?
Got it?
Hold on a minute, I got it.
Got the gist.
Speaker 7Is there anything else I could?
Speaker 2Yeah?
For one thing, let me talk.
That's one thing you can do.
Okay.
Speaker 1We start with how much money has the mortgage company bought insurance for I got a couple of insurance or they told you they bought your insurance?
Speaker 4Yes?
Speaker 1Was much much much, Patricia, five thousand dollars.
Okay, all right, So here's what normally happens.
If you buy a home and you can't prove you have insurance, because the mortgage holder always.
Speaker 2Says, I have to know if there's insurance on the home.
Speaker 1What they will then do is they will buy the insurance for you and then bill you for the insurance, put it on into the mortgage, and we'll do it at a pretty expensive rate because they don't care.
They're not shopping for insurance.
And so something obviously something happened to you.
And did you have insurance at the time, Now, okay, but you bought the house, you own the house, So who bill you.
Speaker 7For the for the insurtgage company?
Speaker 2You said you bought the house outright.
Speaker 7And then I paid it off?
Speaker 2Okay, when did insure?
Speaker 1Okay?
Speaker 2When did you pay it off into the first year?
Speaker 7Oh about two months?
Speaker 1Okay, so within two months you had you were done.
And they will not pay you the ten months that you are due that they charge you.
Speaker 2Is that correct?
Speaker 7Yeah?
They I got the run around.
Speaker 1Yeah all right, No, I understand, and they they just sent you a bill for here we want you to pay insurance.
Speaker 2Is that right here, we need five thousand dollars.
Speaker 7No, they took it?
Speaker 2Where do they take it from?
Where do they Where did they take it from?
Speaker 3Escrow?
Speaker 2How do you?
Speaker 1Okay, you buy a house, you closed escrow?
How much later than the close of escrow?
Did the mortgage company bill you for the insurance.
Speaker 7Immediately?
Speaker 2Okay?
Through you bought the house?
Did you let them know you paid off the house?
Speaker 5Oh?
Speaker 1Yes, okay, And they gave you the deed.
Okay, they gave you the deed, They wrote you the deed.
Here you go, Patricia, it's your house, free and clear.
You owe no money on it.
Is that correct?
Speaker 7Right?
Speaker 2Okay?
Speaker 1And they will not give you back your five thousand dollars.
Is that correct?
Speaker 4That's correct?
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 7Now gave me a bum check?
Speaker 2Now, okay, that's now.
Speaker 1Now you've got a real issue because if you're getting a bad check from a mortgage company, h then there's some real issues with that mortgage company.
Speaker 2Now it could have fallen through the crack.
Speaker 7I may have gone bankrupt.
Speaker 2That's what I was saying.
Speaker 1That's where I was going.
And if they have gone bankrupt, you are out of luck.
There's no place for you to get the money.
Speaker 7Now they joined the larger one, would they take on their gifts?
Speaker 1Yes, yes, of course, don't say name, but yes, if the larger company bought the other company, yes, But if if they bought the assets, then it's an issue because bankruptcy stops everything.
If they've gone bankrupt, you're screwed.
If they don't, then you sue them and you try to go after it.
That was a very long question and answer period.
Thank you so much.
Okay, Tim, Hello, Tim.
Speaker 6Welcome, Hey Bill.
Speaker 5Yeah, so I have a notice of intention to sue any curk costs from a law firm and wondering how to handle that.
Speaker 2Okay, Well, what are they suing you.
Speaker 5For credit card debt?
Speaker 2Okay?
Speaker 1Do you have credit card debt?
Is that a debt that in fact you incurred on that card?
Speaker 6Yes?
Speaker 1Okay, and so what do you do?
Well, you have to if you want to fight it.
Do you owe the money?
Speaker 2Tim?
Speaker 6Yeah?
Speaker 2Okay, So now you've got a couple of choices.
Speaker 1If they take you to court, you have no defense, right, what are you gonna say, I don't know the money, I'm not me, I'm really my twin brother, and you're going after the wrong person.
No, they're gonna get a judgment again against you, and they're gonna get the court fees is what they're gonna get, and.
Speaker 2They're going to get interest.
Speaker 1You've got to cut a deal with him, Tim, You've got to say, you gotta have to call him and say, hey, can I pay you off X number of dollars?
Because they'd rather have the money than not have the money.
Speaker 2So how much do you owe?
What are they suing you for?
Speaker 6Eight?
Speaker 2Okay?
Speaker 1Can you get hold of a few thousand dollars?
Is there any way you can get let's say, four thousand dollars?
No, there isn't okay, So you got to tell them that.
Well, let me ask you this, are you working right now?
Speaker 3No?
Speaker 6I'm on disability.
Speaker 1Ah, that's what you want to tell him.
I'm on disability.
Speaker 2I have no money.
Speaker 1And then you cut a deal with them and they're gonna argue with him.
You're negotiating with them straight out, and your argument is I have no money.
Speaker 2Now what are you gonna do?
Now?
They go to court and they're gonna get a judgment against you.
Speaker 1They can't go after your disability payments, but you know you're gonna have a judgment how old are.
Speaker 2You, Tim fifty eight?
Speaker 1So you still want to live a life and get credit at some point, Yeah, you have no choice other than cutting a deal with them and doing the best you can.
Otherwise, you owe the money.
You're gonna get a judgment against you, your credit's gonna get ruined, your life is over.
You're gonna jump off of a building and kill yourself.
That's probably what I would do.
Rick, Hi, Rick, welcome.
Speaker 4Do you remember Fresh Club as far as.
Speaker 2I remember a Price Club that was the predecessor of Costs Go right?
Speaker 6Oh.
Speaker 4I used to work there and they had to be a member of the Teamsters union in order to work there, which I was paid the money every month.
They gave you the union contract, which was basically the employee handbook, and for years they didn't do what the contract said.
I even had a manager tell me one time.
I said, look, that's what I said right there.
He said, that's not the way we do it.
So now I'm wondering, how is there any kind of statue of limitations?
Speaker 2Yes there is, but how many?
But there is?
Speaker 1How many years ago did you leave the Price Club?
Because that hasn't been Price Club for many, many, many years.
When did you leave.
Speaker 4They're still doing They're still doing the same stuff.
Speaker 2That doesn't matter.
You're out of the picture, cup, You're out of the picture.
Three, yeah, in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 1Okay, So let me ask you, whatever statute there is other than Burton, which has no statute, do you think that twenty some odd years a statue to run on that?
And if they if you knew they weren't going to did you bring it up to anybody?
Did you go to your shop Steward?
Did you go to the rep the union rep, and say, hey, these guys are violating the contract many tons and they and the union wouldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 4No.
I even had letters.
I wrote agrievance and they said it that's it with no marriage.
Speaker 1But your wait, you know, here's the problem.
You waited way too long.
That's the problem.
You can't go back twenty something years.
Speaker 2You just can't, Okay, I mean, there's just no way around that.
Speaker 1But the whole start of this was Price Club guy by the name I think Sault Price started it, and then it eventually became a costco.
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George, Yo, George, what can I do for you?
Speaker 2Good morning?
Bill?
Speaker 6Yes, sir, I've been married to my wife for twenty years.
Speaker 2I'm sorry.
Speaker 6What are you sorry about?
Speaker 1How about you've been married for twenty years?
Speaker 6Yeah, well I am as well, but thank you to hear there now.
Yes, anyway, when I when we married, I own my home and my paid for my home.
My home was already owned and paid for.
So I'm questioning when we get divorced, what's going to happen to the house and how much does she have to give if any.
Speaker 1Okay, we start with the fact if the house was yours coming into the marriage, boom, it's your house.
The argument is going to be on her side is how much did you improve the house?
Now, let's talk about you still kept it in your name?
Correct, I'm assuming that it was not put into joint tenancy or tenants in common or anything or community properly.
Speaker 6Later on in years, I put her name on the owner's manual.
Speaker 1Okay, then it's her house.
Then it's her house as well as your house.
The second you put that house into joint tenancy, it became a community asset, and she gets half the house.
She gets half the value of the house.
You gave it to the community.
Is what you did.
You gifted it to the community.
And so there we go again.
See the secret is and I wish you had called me twenty years ago.
I actually was doing this twenty years ago, strangely or not.
Marriages normally, if whatever value, whatever's bought during the course of the marriage, because all the income of the marriage is a community.
Speaker 2There's no way around that.
Speaker 1And so whatever money is spent to increase the value, to make it well, to pay off mortgage is and then there's a whole there's a whole situation with that, there's a whole equation because you have to pay rent anyways, you have to live there.
Speaker 2But that's a side point.
Speaker 1The bottom line is, Yeah, you put it in both of your names, and that does it.
And so when you get divorced, she owns half of it.
Now, if she dies first, you own all of it.
If I'm assuming you put in joint tendancy.
Now do you know where I'm going to go next on this one?
Speaker 2If she dies.
Speaker 6First, I have a good idea.
Speaker 1But yeah, exactly, And that's how you do it, and then decide.
And here's my advice whenever, but anybody wants to kill a spouse, because of course that's where I'm going.
And that is, if there's substantial money involved, and you're talking about money going to one side or the other, particularly a.
Speaker 2Husband, what I would do.
Speaker 1You can't just go ahead and just kill your wife, right is then you just spend the rest of your life in jail.
Speaker 2However, you can get your best friend.
Speaker 1To have sex with her and then you find out when that is, and then you jump into the room and go, oh my god, and then you shoot her.
Now, your argument is that is a crime of passion.
Crime of passion means say, doesn't mean passionate.
I mean it's a crime of passion that you reacted without thinking.
And that's a whole different level than a then a murder that you try to do.
Because now we're getting into first degree, so it becomes a product becomes a crime of passion.
So then you do your four years in prison, and then you signed.
You know, it was four years in prison worth all that money, and then you make that decision and you suck it up.
And that immediately leads me to one of my best jokes, and that is Murray and Sam are best friends, and Sam wants to have sex with Murray's wife, and so they are in bed and Murray walks in and goes, Sam.
Speaker 2I have to but you okay with that?
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