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And no Dan and tie.

Dan Rubinstein.

You know we called it snake in the toilet Saturday.

I saw Matt Barry on ESPN called it eye test Saturday.

I don't know what that means.

Weak, don't really care to know what that means.

Yeah, didn't we have something a part of the eye that started with an S that we used for alliterative purposes last year?

I do remember the I think so, but look doesn't really matter Week thirteen Now, officially in the books, we did have a couple of snakes in the toilet that we'll talk through.

I suppose there were a couple eye tests if you want to.

Get Clara Sclara extra effort.

Yeah, I believe we had a couple test that maybe we could talk through that maybe some teams passed.

It was a week that I think was short on headliner games.

If I'm being honest for a second, Okay.

Yeah, it's at the table.

I know I'm supposed to be gung ho about every college football weekend, and I was about this one.

We did a four hour live stream talking about Oregon USC which we'll get to here in just a little bit.

But if being honest, because this is a show about honesty, there weren't a lot of headliner matchups, but doesn't mean it was interesting though, And I think that's the important point here.

We've got a lot of interesting things that we need to get through to unpack all that Week thirteen had in store for us, what it means going into an absolutely friggin enormous Week fourteen, rivalry week, going into conference championship week.

This was sort of a table setter week of sorts, a calm before a proverbial storm that I think is coming.

So it is ever more important that we do this stream tonight.

Yeah, we do this recording right now to get folks ready for what is in store and help them understand what just transpired.

Sir, welcome back to the show.

It is great to be with you.

It is late, we're a little bleary eyed, we got mushroom cars, they swimming in our veins, but we are ready to talk college football.

My friend, where are we starting off?

Well?

First, of all, I would take a slight exception.

I know you didn't mean any ill will about it, but this was it was actually a really fun like reinforcing weekend.

It was a reinforcement of like, okay, is this a thing that we should establish as certain?

And when you see Florida State struggle in the very specific way that they struggled, when you see New Mexico, by the way, we can just lead with New Mexico if you want taking it to airflow, well, pride baby.

I want to say New Mexico with a win against San Diego State winning, they're in the Mountain West Championship game because they hold time breakers.

I want to say against both U and LV.

They haven't beaten Boise, but it was UNLV and I forget the other team, but they would happen against San Diego State as well, so they're in a nice position.

But yeah, I think it reinforced a lot across the sport, even if the games weren't you know, replete with you know, ranked against ranked, I think there was a lot across the sport that like I don't know about Illinois, Well, Illinois wasn't there, Like, oh, I don't know about Colorado.

What a lot of Colorado's not there, Like, I don't know if BYU can win this tough one.

They've had some struggles on the road.

No, no, they can.

They keep winning tough ones on the road because they're a tough, good team.

And so I thought there was a lot of reinforcing ahead of a lot of big final Rivalry week matchups, which I think was very important because I think we can etch a lot into stone in this moment.

Well, look, why don't we start there.

Okay, let's stick with the reinforcement theme and we'll kind of talk that through again.

For people tuning in, we've got your voice messages that we're going to play a little bit later on in the episode.

Depending on how long this goes, maybe we'll get to some YouTube comments and questions for the people who have taken the time to stay up blate with us and watch us do our thing live.

We're also going to do doodle alerts a little bit later on in the episode, and in the interim, we're going to try to go through all of the biggest action in the storylines that we think matter the most.

What was most reinforced to you?

If you had to pick a game out of what we saw in week thirteen, Which storyline, which narrative, which belief that you held dear?

Would you say was reinforce the most in week thirteen?

You know a lot of people said Charlotte was going to beat Georgia, and I've i've all season long have circled this as a big Georgia.

Now, which was the most reinforcing outcome to me?

I thought Oregon over at USC actually reinforced a lot of what we've talked about in both really impressive ways with USC and sort of what has ailed USC and at the same time what has been very impressive about Oregon, and at the same time, you know, some concerns about Oregon.

So I thought that checked a lot of Boxesn't it just so happens to have been the headliner of the weekend.

It was that in Oklahoma Miszoo.

Yeah, Oklahoma Zoo, which maybe we could talk about next, which I think reinforce some stuff in its own right.

But yeah, Oregon wins forty two to twenty seven.

We did the four hour stream for this game.

Thank you to everybody who stopped by.

I feel like it went much the way we thought it was going to go.

You know, there were some nuance here and there, but by a large you and I were both pretty spot on.

I think my final prediction was something like thirty eight.

Twenty five wasn't really that far off.

And the reason that I went there is because to me, it felt like a bit of a rather obvious mismatch, that being USC's rushing defense versus an Oregon rushing attack that has been very good.

I remember talking through with you all the guys who averaged six or more yards per carry on the Oregon side.

Not to say that's the only way that they're going to beat a team, but it's one of the ways that they'd been successful in winning so far this season.

And as we saw this game go on, Oregon did lean progressively more and more on that ground assault.

As the game wore on.

You know, it was apparent the deeper we got into this thing that they could use, that they could possess the ball, they could wear USC down.

That to me was sort of obvious going in and even more obvious coming out.

But like I think, the thing that really was reinforcing to me as I think about how Oregon won this game, we knew USC was going to score.

Yeah, we knew they were going to score.

And I think by a large it's a pretty good effort on the USC side.

Jade Mayava, the wide outs, all that stuff kind of was assumed going in.

What was really reinforced to me is what Oregon can do in the trenches, specifically with their defensive line.

They're banged up as hell along the offensive line, but as far as the defensive line goes, they allowed just fifty two yards in the ground, doing no small part because of that defensive front.

And secondly, and I would say most importantly against an offense like this didn't have any sacks, but pressure the hell out of Jade Mayava and it.

Forced to fumble.

Yeah for the phone, but it was one of those deals where they were forcing him out of rhythm, forcing him to make some throws a little bit sooner than he would like.

He kind of buckled under the pressure from time to time.

It was forcing throws into double triple coverage.

Had two interceptions, probably could have had more in this football game.

I just thought they did a really good job using that pressure to their advantage, which again was something that I thought coming in.

But you never really know when you're going up against a good offense until you see it go down.

And I thought Oregon did a really good job on that front.

So I credit what they can do and have done all seasonal on the defensive line.

Yeah, I mean, look, you start with the injuries too.

Both of these teams were beat up along the offensive line.

Obviously, usc missing their starting safeties is a big deal in this one.

When Oregon had the success that they had through the air, both you know, down the seamed, guys like Canyon Sadik Malik Benson made big plays.

You mentioned Oregon running the ball.

They were able to do so without their starting right tackle for a chunk of this game, starting center for a chunk of this game.

Left tackle in and out of this game.

Look for as as impressive as the throws were on both sides of the ball, I think you just got to tip your cap to how well those refs through those yellow flags.

Tie.

They're gonna be icing those shows.

Here we go again with this.

I'm just telling you ty in terms of the accuracy.

You know, you prepare yourself for a game like this.

If you're a referee, you know all off season long, and you're just say I'm gonna get in my reps and just throwing that flag, throwing that flag, throwing that flag.

I don't want to belabor the point, but they were obviously terrible.

They were.

Like you, anybody who watched, even accidentally came across this game, we're like, oh, these are terrible, terrible referees.

USC fans, I'm sure feel that they were terrible referees at certain moments, and Oregon fans felt that they they were terrible referees.

I'm not even gonna say it was terrible officiating.

I'm gonna say personally speaking, they are terrible at what they do.

And of course the game ended with Gary Danielson saying Gary Danielson ended the game, and this is like his second to last game, I think for CBS.

He's like, I thought the rest did a great job, and that was about all I needed to know.

That was about all I needed to know to reinforce to go with the theme.

In my opinion here, Oregon made more plays.

Oregon made more plays.

They had the punt return for a touchdown, They had the interceptions, they had the big passes up the scene, they had the big third down conversions, they had the big runs for touchdowns.

They made plays on defense, and USC while in great individual plays.

At times it was Mikai Lemon and Jacoby Lane.

It was a struggle for USC.

At times they were abysmal on special teams and you just they gave away too many free yards and they couldn't at all establish anything on the ground.

I was, you know, I was singing USC fans about how they're like a three hundred through the air, two hundred on the ground type team.

King Miller had thirty yards.

I want to say they have thirty fifteen carries for thirty yards.

Oregon, as you mentioned, did a great job.

Bar Alexander, the USC transfer did a great job for Oregon, and the Ducks were just able to make more plays.

There were times when it seemed like USC decided, like what if we just built the whole plane out of pass interference the old I was about to say, the Jane Pauley, not the Jane Polly, the Jane Coston all PI offense.

And it worked for them.

It really did work, and so it was an impressive performance from Oregon.

USC marched down the field quickly to start the game, but otherwise it was a great individual moment here or there for these receivers.

For USC, it was a much more complete performance from Oregon.

And you know, closing out, you mentioned the long drive in the fourth quarter.

They just did more right things more often in this game.

And they have more good players.

Is a more positions who were better prepared to make more successful plays, and so I just I came away much more impressed with Oregon as a coach team.

At one point, USC had a receiver trying to start a fight on the Oregon sideline.

That was special.

We were doing our stream.

That was fun.

That was fun to discuss on the stream.

Not an ideal moment to point to where USC is at in terms of having players ready to compete on the general public side of the field.

So yeah, a really nice win for Oregon in a tough spot.

I misspoke Matteo ui Anglile had the one sack for Oregon that was on the forest fumble.

I thought was yeah.

And the shout out to one Swell Foop who tweeted us and said that USC really put the special in special teams today with a free kick out of bounds, they hit a player that called for a fair catch, leaping foul on a missed Oregon field goal that extended.

A drive led to a touchdown I believe, Yeah, allowed to kick return touchdown, and missed a short field goal.

Thank you for that two week return.

Yeah, apologies.

I know this gentleman's the USC guy.

But Oregon gets the win here.

This is a pretty big win.

It was I think the biggest remaining hurdle for the Ducks.

Nothing is clinched as of now in the Big Ten.

I mean, I guess Indiana pretty much has its sewn up.

But in terms of what the game actually looks like in the Big Ten title, there are mathematical possibilities for Oregon, obviously, for Ohio State, even for Michigan, depending on what happens next week in that Michigan Ohio State game.

We will talk through all of those scenarios on one of our episodes coming up this week.

But this is more of a recurring theme across college football.

We had a bunch of other games go down, and maybe we could talk about Oklahoma Missouri next.

But the SEC is in this camp, the ACC is in this camp, the Big Twelve is in this camp.

Though we have a little bit more already about who is going to be playing for these conferences.

None of these games, none of these matchups are officially clinched at this point, which I think sets up an incredible Week fourteen.

Agree, you know, there is so much that remains up in the air.

One of the things coming up.

One of the things that came up this week, I should say, as a result of Oklahoma knocking off Alabama a week ago, after we saw these college football playoff rankings, after we saw that Oklahoma had climbed all the way up to number eight.

This was an opportunity in Week thirteen for Oklahoma to reinforce its standing as a potential college football playoff team.

Missouri got Bo Brabula back, right, He's been injured for a while.

Bo Brabula comes back.

Missouri's got a pretty good defense.

They've got a beast of a ground assault.

There was I think a real train of thought here, and you and I spoke to this when we did the preview, that maybe Oklahoma is going to be sitting in a bit of a letdown spot.

This game was at home, but this was for Miszoo sort of like a last gasp to try and get one over on the SEC.

Not to necessarily play for anything conference wise, but if only to assert themselves and have a real impact on the conference frase and make their mark on things here down the stretch.

And win their first game against a team with a winning record despite being ranked.

You said it having a signature win against Kansas, and it's always good for Missoo to be Kansas.

Let's be clear, and it's always good for Kansas to beat Missou.

But also we have a conversation about, like they have this many wins over ranked teams and they beat number twenty two or whatever Miszoo, And also Miszoo is not that good, So I don't know.

Oklahoma Miszoo was a rock fight, which we talked about.

Oklahoma was not able to move that ball consistently, though they did have a very impressive long touchdown pass.

I believe it was Matterei to Isaiah Satanna.

Yeah, Miszoo is basically counting on its defensive front and it's as a whole doing enough to help the offense accidentally score more than Oklahoma.

That was essentially the best hope.

Obviously, Ama Hardy is incredible for Miszoo, but he doesn't call plays, he doesn't throw passes, he doesn't block and occupy all five positions on the offensive line.

Mizoo could not throw the ball, and literally it looked like Bo Prabula struggled to throw the ball at times.

Coming back from injury.

I think he was listened as questionable before this game.

He was not probable, He was not listed as playing.

So this was a I think near game time decision.

And Bo Brabula just did not look like an upper two thirds of the SEC level quarterback in this one.

And maybe that's a health thing.

That's Maybe it's you know, being rusty from missing as much time as he has and coming back from injury.

When Matier came back from his injury, i'llbeit a different kind of injury that was his hand.

But you know, when Matier came back for that Texas game, he didn't look the part either.

Yeah, that was not his best game.

This was truly a rock fight.

There were twelve punts.

There was a total between both teams of five hundred and seventy seven yards obviously twenty three total points.

The final score was seventeen to six in favor of Oklahoma.

There were large chunks of this game that felt like it was an Iowa game.

Yeah, you know, like just.

And I'm not even saying that as a pejorative, but just two defenses, two decent defenses.

Obviously, at a minimum, decent defense is good, very good at best, making it very ugly.

I mean, it felt like a twenty eleven SEC game between two teams who weren't in the SEC were about to be in the like just yeah, real old school SEC.

And so I think there were a couple of stories that came out of this one.

For me.

The first is that Boprabula did play, yeah, and I you know, i'd.

Disagree a little bit.

I thought he looked okay, given that he was coming back from injury and given that, you know, the status was questionable pretty much all week.

But the problem was that they needed more than okay to beat a team, to beat a defense this good, they needed a superstar and he wasn't that today.

And that doesn't mean he can't get there, but he wasn't there in this football game.

And they needed the superstar because Oklahoma shut down to Matt Hardy, they shut down the Mazoo rushing attack.

They got constant pressure on bo Prabula, they sacked him four times, they picked them off twice.

So this was again, I think more to the point the way that Oklahoma has chosen to win games this year.

They're not scoring thirty points a game.

This is not a dynamic offense, though the offense has dynamic players.

This is a team that is led by its defense, with a defense first head football coach and Brent Vanderbilts, who's been very good at coaching defense over the years.

This is how they have chosen to win.

And they are now one step away.

One win away.

All they got to do is beat LSU, who, by the way, struggled with Western Kentucky.

Tonight, you beat LSU, you're in the playoffs.

You're probably hosting a first round game in Norman against you know, right now, I think it's set up as Notre Dame, could be, could be a number of teams depending on how things shake out these last two weeks.

So, you know, I'm not exactly sure how to feel about Oklahoma in that situation, which maybe we can talk about here, but at least within the context of this one, they were just kind of suffocating with their defense, and Miszoo just didn't feel like they could get anything going, no momentum on offense whatsoever.

By the way, I think this is how you should and everybody should feel about Oklahoma because coming into the season, we looked at the schedule and we said Michigan, Auburn, Texas, South Carolina, almost Tennessee, Alabama, MISSOO LSU.

I know, and obviously we understand the context of their schedule.

There is a decent I would say there's a good two, very good chance they're about to go ten and two against this schedule and go to the College Football Playoff, which is why that's that's you should feel incredible about Oklahoma.

You said they're not a thirty point per game team.

They our offense has not scored thirty points once in the sec right, they had a defensive touchdown against Tennessee to go to thirty three.

So you should feel incredible about the job that Oklahoma has done with Brent Venables winning in a very specific way, weathering what could have been a catastrophic quarterback injury.

This has been nothing short of a terrific season for Oklahoma.

Not always pretty, n somehow it just needs to work though, right, it just needs to work.

By the way, here's the sidebar here, fourth and three, miszoo.

I want to say in the red zone, are near the red zone, they decide to call a timeout, get a perfect play and to go for it on fourth and three.

Then Brett Venables calls a timeout and then Maszoo comes out and attempts the field goal and misses the field goal.

And at that moment, I said to myself, Yeah, I don't know if I love Miszoo long term under Eli dri Quitz.

I don't know if this is the guy.

He came out after the game and said like, yeah, they saw our look on offense, and we were like, pH I guess they saw it.

We got a kick.

Now.

It's like, man, what a depressing turn of events if you're a Mazoo fan there.

And I think they had the lead in that moment right like three nothing, So I don't know.

Really nice win for Oklahoma and they have a really nice opportunity to put a cherry on top of an impressive season next week against LSU.

Against LSU, they're in a really really good spot.

If they win next week, they're all but certainly in the playoff.

They are all but certainly hosting a first round playoff game, notably without having to play in the.

SEC title game.

Yeah, which I still think is kind of an advantage.

I really like the spot for Oklahoma, and to your point, look when I say I don't know how to feel about Oklahoma, I don't know the extent to which we can trust this style of play the deeper they get into the playoff.

But clearly they have done well enough given their schedule.

Yeah, using that defense as their primary weapon to get them to a point now on the precipice of ten and two, So regardless of how pretty it looks, the numbers sort of speak for themselves.

The wins are there and to the earlier point, Yeah, given this schedule, that's a pretty damn god accomplishment for brand Vannables, especially given that brought in a bunch of new talent, was very much on the hot seat coming into this season.

The schedule looked very formidable.

It was formidable to get to this point now where they're, you know, stones throw away from making the postseason.

Regardless of whether they go into the postseason a win or not, that's I think beside the point that they could go ten and two against this is quite accomplishment.

So good that they went they went six and six and lost to Navy in a bowl game.

Last year, Oklahoma fans should be running into the streets, screaming, naked, drinking nectar dripping from clouds.

Everything is great, I know it.

Man, Good for them, Good for them.

Yeah, where do you want to go next?

What else stood out?

Uh?

Pitt, Georgia Tech.

I'll give you the choice right here, right, My beautiful pit panther, Your beautiful pit panthers.

The pen look.

Penn State was more impressive in a weird way.

Maybe Pitt almost choked away a crazy lead, or speaking of actually choking away something crazy.

Do you want to go Kansas State?

Utah?

I want to start with my beautiful pit panthers.

Okay, my beautiful pit Panthers won Dan forty two twenty eight.

Pitt may have been the snake in the toilet this week.

Ah, yeah, that's fair.

They were just ranked.

It wasn't that pronounced a snake.

They jumped out to a twenty eight to zip lead in the first quarter.

They were cooking with gas Man.

They did a lot of what we described in our preview, you know, and I think what what I said or what you said, I don't remember which one of us said it, but it was at least partially true that Pitt was good enough to keep the ground game in check and force the issue through the air.

And Haines King has been very good.

He's been very solid.

Marry fishevery responsible with the football, a lot of senior leadership.

I mean, there's a reason that Haines King has gotten this Georgia Tech team to where it is, you know, in their own right on the precipice.

If they had won, they would have qualified for the ACC Championship game.

But Pitt was able to get pressure on Haines King.

Pitt was able to shut down the ground attack and by just leaning a little bit more on Haines King and forcing him into some interesting situations, they got two big time turnovers, two interceptions for him, including a backbreaker, an absolute backbreaker of a pick in the third quarter that went back the other way for one hundred yards, and a touchdown that made up thirty five to fourteen PIT at the time that separation.

It just killed a lot of momentum that Georgia Tech felt like it was building.

So I got a credit the Pit defense for coming to play against an offense that by some counts was the best.

In college football.

They did a really really good job, getting some big turnovers, stopping Georgia Tech for the most part on the ground, and getting out to a big early lead, because I think that was key here.

Georgia Tech definitely was able to gain some momentum a little bit deeper into this one.

Pitt came up with a few plays that were able to you know, they were able.

To stop it.

But jumping out to a huge lead, making Georgia Tech play from behind, maybe more so than what Pitt was able to do on defense, that changed the game plan for Georgia Tech considerably.

They had to play with more urgency.

It took them out of what they wanted to do, I thought, almost instantly by the end of the first quarter.

So big game for Pitt, big game for Jakari and Turner.

Yeah, Boozy Turner amazing, another another great performance, no desertate, obvious.

Two hundred yards the freshman, I mean, just a really really good campaign and now they find themselves in a situation where, with a little bit of help and a win next week over Miami, Pitt could end up in the ACC title game.

As I'd been warning, as the private streaming four told back in August, the Pitt Panthers could make it actually happen.

I mean, you find yourself another college football podcast with a host who is going to both say James Franklin's going to be the head coach at Virginia Tech in November and Pitt's going to be really good this year.

Only Ty hildon Brand predicted both of those things.

Do not fact check once again.

I don't.

I'm pretty sure I picked Penn State to win the national championship, and do not fact check.

Do not fact check.

I did not have I had Brad Priye getting fired, but I definitely did not have James Franklin getting fired mid season and going to Virginia.

Tech before the end of the season.

Mason Heinschel's really fun.

You mentioned Boozy Turner.

Obviously, he's been really good this year as a rotation guy and took over and was probably the biggest engine reason why Pitt was able to win tonight.

In the defense, I mean it was it was run defense.

I'm curious to see what Mason heinscheld because you can tell he's a freshman kind of in a good way that I don't think he is trusted too, and I don't know if he trusts himself to just settle into the pocket, climb the pocket, go through progressions and that's okay.

He's a freshman.

His ability to improvise and just playmake is crazy impressive for his age and experience level.

He was really really strong in a tough environment with a lot on the line, And like you said, Pitt came to play immediately.

They generated points on both sides of the ball.

They did hold on.

You knew Georgia Tech was going to score some, you didn't know exactly how many.

You didn't know what the exact rhythm of this game was going to be in the second half.

That Pitt jumped out the way that they did impressively, but that they were able to hold on and make plays throughout.

Just a really impressive night for Pitt and not a losable spot, but a tough spot.

It wasn't losible because of how they started that game out, but it got kind of tight there at the end and they managed to sort of find that that next gear.

And yeah, they have a real opportunity to I mean it's not even an opportunity.

They'll likely be ranked once again ahead of that Miami game.

They will be and that game looms as pretty huge national.

Enormity because that's an enormous game.

That's an enormous game on like seven different levels.

And I'll say it again, I think Pick can hold down Miami's rushing attack.

Yeah, I stand by what I've said now for three straight weeks.

Buddy, Virginia Tech died today.

It doesn't it doesn't take much.

I know.

I know Pitt is built to stop the run, and I think they're going to do a lot of the same stuff to Carson Beck that they did to Haines King, which is they're going to shut down the run or at least defang it to the extent that it's not going to kill them.

And they're going to find ways either by bringing pressure or by mixing up coverage to try and confuse Carson Beck.

They cannot let Carson Beck sit in the pocket and pick them apart.

I think he's very good at that.

But I can expect, I think we can all expect Pat and Ordos He's going to find some way to bring pressure.

You're going to confuse him or try to confuse him with different coverage schemes, and they're going to see if they can turn over Carson Beck the way they turned over Haines King today.

Haynes King was not prone to interceptions before today.

He just wasn't.

I mean, he's been very efficient with the football.

We know that Carson Beck has had a few moments where you can kind of get him to see ghosts, right.

We saw that in the Louisville game.

I think Pitt's going to try to do a lot of the same stuff.

And I'm standing by what I said.

Pitt's gonna win this game against Miami.

They're going to make the acc interesting and you know, they'll probably need some help to get into that title game.

But don't be surprised if Pitt emerges victorious when we're doing this stream a week from tonight.

Wow, Okay, I won't be You've said it.

You wanted to talk about the Utah game.

Oh my god, this is probably the game of the day.

This game was uts This game was absolutely nuts.

Speaking of snakes in the toilet, it looked like k State was gonna be a snake in the toilet.

Yeah, fifty one to forty seven was your final Here where is my sound?

This was, as we like to say, a shootout through and threw a shootout.

Actually can I can I jump in because I usually used a vorzak to spotlight terrible drive charts, but this is almost as funny in its own way.

Do you mind listen?

This is your bit man.

Punt, punt, slow, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, punt, touchdown, punt, end of half, touchdown, punt, touchdown, touchdown, punt, field goal, fumble, touchdown, touchdown, punt, touchdown.

Oh, no interception and no game.

It's a lot of touchdowns.

There's a lot of touchdown.

This game swung on for my money to pivotal plays.

The first was Utah intercepting Kansas State on a two point try and then taking it the other way for two points.

Yep, ball was tipped right, ball was tipped into a Utah defender's hands.

He goes the full distance.

That makes the game forty seven to thirty seven.

It was a four point swing, which, by the way, four points was the winning margin here, so that was significant.

And then the second was on fourth and one, Utah's got the ball in their own thirty nine yard line a minute and forty seven left on the clock, and Devin Dampier runs directly up the middle.

Yeah, for fifty nine yards all the way down like the one yard line.

That gave Utah a goal to go.

Circumstance extended the drive obviously, and was what sprung them free and got them to the point where they could go in for the score and go up on k State.

Case State did have an opportunity to maybe pull some heroics.

They didn't have any timeouts.

They think it was under a minute.

You and I were messaging back and forth like what this is going to go one of two ways.

It's either going to go great and Case State's going to have a heroic victory, or it's going to end in some sort of bad turnover.

And it ended in a bad turnover.

Yeah.

There was the weird thing.

I forget who had the run at the end of the game, if it was damp Pier or somebody else where in watching the game after the fact, because we were doing our live stream or usc organ live stream, that Utah had a long run and it was run down at like the three yard line with like a minute fifty eight left, and then if they just let that dude score on that run, they have an additional minute with no timeouts.

It's hard calculus to sort of compute when you know it's all happening live.

But no, this game was incredible.

It was thirty one to twenty one.

I think the idea that Kansas State, who has been so weird on offense this season, was able to score thirty one in the first half running like they were able to run against Utah.

And this game was at Utah.

Yes, yeah, this game was at Utah.

Kansas State completely beat up in their front seven.

Their offensive line has not been good this season.

I did see that it was Matt Wells's first game up in the booth, so maybe that happened as a difference maker.

I don't know.

Chris Cleimban made like some of bit like after the game.

After the loss, made a big emotional speech in this presser about you know, people thinking that you know, they're just going through the motions, and they made this conscious decision to really lock in on the run.

Joe Jackson got so much exercise for Kansas State and a losing effort nearly went for three hundred yards.

They went right at Utah and succeeded.

They went directly at Utah and it wasn't just a collection of ninety yard runs.

It was just chunky, chunky, chunky, But the final stat line was indicative of how successful Kansas State was against Utah, and honestly, like the passing game wasn't there for Kansas State and they I don't think Jason Brown played in this game, did he?

I didn't see him.

I don't think he was out there.

So they're shorthanded on both sides of the ball.

Utah, to their credit, is just making play after play and don't give up in this game.

And it goes back and forth, Utah comes out on top.

But in terms of a pure entertainment factor that it did feel like Kansas State could have done the one two three can coon thing and they were just like, what if we just go directly at Utah and do not care about what we are or are not supposed to accomplish against the Utes?

And I don't know why they didn't do this sooner against their schedule, but crazy impressive from Kansas State and slightly even more impressive for Utah for absorbing Joe hard it is to win giving up four hundred and seventy two yards rushing, I mean that's a win and a losing effort for Utah.

Good god man, but good job.

Yeah.

I mean, Devin dan Pierre had a monster game.

He did.

He was amazing.

He had a monster game.

Two fifty nine through the air, He had ninety four on the ground, four total touchdowns.

He very much powered this Utah offense to victory.

Obviously, hey had that big run inside of two minutes to give them the opportunity to win in the first place.

But you know, again, Ed, I don't know if we call this, yeah, a clunker.

I don't know what the terminology is for a game like this, but this was whoever as the ballast is basically going to win.

It just had that tenor of the full way through.

It got real crazy, real crazy in the second half, and you know, we had people messaging us and calling in about this one left and right, just because fifty one forty seven is a pure shootout and a lot of fun.

There wasn't much defense, and we saw two teams that were very good on the ground, very good on the ground, even though Utah with Devin Dan Pierre had a little bit more going through the air, obviously, but I was damn impressed with the plan that Kansas State had in this game.

I thought it.

I thought they were going to get the win here, and if they had gotten the win, I mean more to the previous point.

You know, we've talked about playoffs and where Miami's places in the playoffs and where some of these team Vanderbilt's another one that's a little bit lower.

A Utah loss.

Would have gone a long way for a team like a Miami.

It wouldn't have put him in certainly not in as an eliminator though, Yeah, but this would have been something that would have knocked Utah out and slid everybody else up in notch and that would have been great for Miami.

Miami did not have that luck, but Utah did and a really nice win here, fifty one to forty seven at home.

The crowd was going nuts.

It looked like a great setting for a game.

Obviously they wish it wouldn't have been as close, but you know, you'll take the dub at this point, where are we going, Let's stay in at the big twelve and talk about the BYU win.

Oh yeah, so number eleven BYU on the road a couple of weeks ago they lost, right m hm.

So there was a question last week against TCU, what kind of BYU team were going to see I.

They'm gonna be locking their wounds.

They're gonna be a hangover.

You and I both reacted to it by saying, this might have been their most complete game yet.

Sure, you know, is it maybe tasting their own blood or something like that sharpened their intensity?

They looked really good.

This game again was I think the epitome of BYU football.

No turnovers.

They had like eighteen more minutes of possessions something like that, seven or fourteen somewhere in that neighborhood.

On third downs, they were very solid.

They were very solid.

They were led by l J.

Martin, who had two twenty two and two touchdowns on the ground.

Bear Bachmeyer again was excellent in whatever role they needed him to play.

Seems like he might be gaining weight since he made the joke about him a couple of weeks ago.

I feel like every time I see bear Bachmeyer, he adds ten pounds to his frame.

He's a big ball, like below the waist, he's a big boys.

He's just got tree trunks.

Yeah, he's a big boy.

He's big boys, tough to bring down.

He plays hard.

At one point, both him and LJ.

Martin were a little nicked up and that was danger zone, yeah, given the way they play offense.

But you know, they were able to stay out there and finish this game out.

And I think on the opposite side of the fence for Cincinnati.

They showed a graphic on the broadcast.

Actually that summed it up pretty well.

Cincinnati had a turnover on downs on the BYU three, They missed three field goals and at one point they were offside on a fourth down that ended up extending a BYU drive.

So, look, you can go pretty far in this sport just by not shooting your self in the foot.

Agree, And a lot of BYU's wins haven't always been that pretty.

But BYU does not shoot itself in the foot.

They're a very disciplined team.

They play however they need to in order to win a football game, and this was a prime example of that.

Cincinnati had a chance here, by the way.

Yeah, I mean this was a game somewhat late.

Yeah, they made it a.

Game late, but BYU was just rock solid.

Again, they were rock solid.

They didn't shoot themselves in the foot.

To go to Knippert at night and win a game.

I mean, this is a place that has a bit of a reputation for being difficult to play at night.

Yep, So to go there to get this win knowing what the stakes were BYU, is it not fully clinched yet?

I don't believe for the Big twelve title game, but right on the doorstep of it.

Correct.

The only thing I'll add here is BYU.

I think they gave up a long punt return that set up the first Cincinnati touch down.

But Cincinnati came into this game I believe as like the most efficient Big twelve running team.

Yes, and against this BYU defense, and it's totally fair.

I mean, obviously LJ.

Martin had a huge game.

Bar Bachmeyer had like huge runs, you know, third and threes, third and fours BYU kind of seemed automatic as they ice the game away.

It was BYU's defense, specifically the linebackers.

These safeties have been terrific all year.

That just smashed Cincinnati on the ground.

I think Evan Pryor had a twenty seven or twenty eight yard run and otherwise it was like six carries for seven or eight yards.

Brendan Storesby did nothing on the ground.

This team runs on everybody and they got nothing.

Against BYU, And so what BYU is able to do in terms of strangling and suffocating offenses and turning them into a one dimensional offense is thrilling for the BYU defense.

I think that's the story.

BYU's defense has been better than their offense this season.

That has been what has led the way the offense has been good, But it really has been the defense more than anything that has sort of set the standard for this year's run for BYU.

And yeah, I mean, well, I think we're all crossing our fingers that don't care about who ends up in the Big twelve Championship that we get, you know, a competitive rematch of Texas Tech BYU, because I mean that just seems like the headline desire and I'm here for headline desires, ty, you know me.

One, I guess interesting nugget that I should throw out there, And I haven't heard enough people talk about this possibility yet, but I think it's real.

Yeah, And I think it's something that as we build to Week fourteen in Conference Championship week, we should at least put out there for people to understand and think about a little bit more.

But you know, so much of the talk with regard to the playoff, has been teams outside the top twelve worming their way in via a conference championship, and we're thinking of teams like a Tulane who might win the American.

We're thinking of teams.

Like Well George Tech or Pitt or whoever ends up winning the ACC is going to be in this category as well, outside of the top twelve, knocking out the last two teams in that Top twelve and finding a way in a backdoor into the playoff.

Right there is also a scenario where BYU continues to win, Texas Tech continues to win, we get a rematch in the Big twelve championship game, and BYU beats them.

I don't think in that circumstance they're going to knock Texas Tech completely out of the playoff, and obviously by virtue of a conference championship, that would get BYU in.

These are hypotheticals, but in that scenario, it's a very real possibility that, given current rankings, Alabama would be out, which would trigger an entire firestorm into sport.

We saw it a little bit last year, but I think Obama being left out again would certainly be caused for much debate in the college football universe.

It would bring up a whole slew of questions about Kaylin de Bor and is he managing the team correctly?

I mean, it would be really interesting for a solid forty eight hours, if not longer, when we eventually get those brackets unveiled.

So one of the many hypotheticals just to kind of keep on your radar as a possibility.

Because it exists.

The first game between Texas Tech and BYU wasn't particularly close, but rematches have a funny way of working themselves out in this sport, and just something to bear in mind, that's all.

Yeah.

I mean, look, you can already see it weighing on Kaylan de Bor as he picks out all of his Penn State quarter zips.

So we'll see how it all plays out.

Ty, where do you want to go next?

You want to stay big twelve?

You were twelve?

Okay, So let's let's sort of put a bow on this.

We had Ocoa State with a big win over k State.

We had both TCU and UCF with three point wins.

TCU over Houston Houston hook the field goal attempt at the end, I think to tie this one.

UCF beat Oklahoma State, but we did have people messaging us like, hey, Oklahoma State's got a.

Lead, Hey, okay they do, or they did they did?

And then Asu slow start, slow start, but ended up beating Colorado, you know, sort of going away.

The game that I wanted to bring up, though, that was of the most interest to me was the Arizona Wildcats baby forty one to seventeen over bail Or.

Baylor just announced that David rand is coming back for another year.

I had some Baylor folks messaging us saying, why so yeah about that.

Arizona was not great in the first half of this game, and it was close for a while, but in the second half they flipped a switch.

Man the second half they outscored Baylor twenty seven is zip.

Their defense stepped up.

They got three turnovers in the fourth quarter, including a pick six.

Arizona's offense also looked great and very smooth in the second half, thanks to Noah Fafida, who looked good in the second half.

They were also running it at will against Baylor.

It was like a total one to eighty when you compare the first half to the second half.

And again we come back to the point Arizona is not that far off.

They're already going to have a very good season compared to preseason expectations.

That much is I think already clear and certain.

But they are not that far off from having a truly special season.

No, that game next week is going to be huge, and it's just too bad we don't have Sam Levitt, but Jeff Simms has been pretty decent, you know, all things considered, That game is huge next week.

I can't remember the last time that matchup was just like, man, this is a toss up, and just like a high quality game, it's been a minute.

It has been a minute.

It has been a minute, and Arizona State still has sort of a mathematical chance to maybe find their way into that title game.

I don't think it's likely, but there are stakes involved in this game, which always makes rivalries fun.

Yep, I agree.

I wanted to talk about the Notre Dame fighting Irish for a second, but the floor is yours.

I mean, that's probably all we really need to talk about.

It's just about a second.

Yeah, there were a lot of crazy stats in this game.

The final was seventy to seven Notre Dame one.

Let me start off just by being fair to Syracuse.

Syracuse is crazy injured right now.

They're crazy injured right now.

But that being said, Notre Dame was up thirty five to Zip in the first quarter despite running just five offensive plays.

Okay, here is their drive chart, or the drive chart of the game.

I'm not going to play the music, thank you.

I'm just kidding.

Go pick six, a block punt for a touchdown, and a pick six on the three opening drives for the Syracuse Orange.

Then Notre Dame got the ball.

They ran one play before Jeremiah Love ran directly up the middle for a forty five yard touchdown run.

Then on their next drive, they ran two plays before giving the ball to Jujarian Price, who ran for a fifty eight yard touchdown.

That's how you get the thirty five Zip.

In the first quarter, Notre Dame had more points than they did passing yards seventy points just sixty seven passing yards.

They didn't have to pass why bother They scored seventy points for the first time since nineteen thirty two.

Dan, Yeah and all told.

It was three hundred and twenty nine rushing yards on the ground, including one seventy one and three touchdowns for Jeremiah Love on just eight carries.

The stats were gaudy, more than Matt Berry's point.

If this truly was an eye test Saturday, I think Notre Dame passed it here.

Syracuse may not be a good team, they may be extraordinarily injured at the moment, but seventy to seven in the manner that Notre Dame got to seventy points was damn impressive and it could have been a lot worse that they really wanted it to be.

So I thought, as somebody who follows Notre Dame, there is no way you can look at this showing, both just purely looking at the box score in the points or by watching the game and just feeling the general vibe of the game.

There is nothing but good vibes coming out of this one on the Notre Dame side.

Yeah, this was a dominant showing anyway you slice it, And as I said, it could have been a hell of a hours.

Had the rhythm of like when like a prime Geno oriam a Yukon women's basketball team takes on like in an exhibition a team from the Philippines, where you're just like, yes, it's thirty five nothing after a couple of minutes.

But like, what are we expecting here?

Yeah, Notre Dame.

Just Limb from Limb ripped them apart, and uh, you know it's took care of business in a highly efficient and violent way.

Let's stay in the acc.

Okay, we had some results here to discuss.

We had Miami thirty four to seventeen over Virginia Tech SMU running one up here on Lousville thirty eight to six, No Miller Moss and no one speaking of crazy injured Duke one.

That game was Nuts thirty two to twenty five over North Carolina.

Wake Forest is now eight and three with a win over Delaware and Clemson one forty five to ten over firm and I believe I saw.

I don't have the score written down for some reason.

But Cal beat Stanford.

They did no, no, no, no, no, no no no Stanford staffordy Cow excuse me, comfortably comfortable, that's right.

Yes, they beat Cal.

They did really well.

I want to say North Carolina committed twelve penalties for over one hundred yards and so one.

Doke had a chance late to kick a go ahead field goal.

And the highlight that everybody's going to see is the fake great fake.

Instead of going for the game winning or the go ahead field goal, they decided they're going to fake it.

It was very successful.

They ran it down to the one, they punched it into the touchdown, they got the two point conversion.

A little bit of a front door cover for those who play the betting game.

But I just got to compliment this fake field goal because what they did was basically an option pitch.

Usually when we see this type of play, the holder for a righty kicker takes the snap, stands up, turns to his right, and they run around the right side.

Instead what happened this time, or they do the LSU thing right where the kicker runs behind the holder, the holder throws it back over his head and then he runs basically a toss sweep out to the right.

I can't think of a whole lot of instances, and I'm sure there have been examples of it in the past where instead of that, the holder takes the ball pitches it directly out in front of him as the kicker runs.

Like a little option.

Yeah, a toss sweep out around the left hand side.

Yeah, and that's what they did.

The great effect here again he ran it down to the one.

They were able to punch it in That gave them enough separation to win this one and cover thirty two to twenty five.

But a bit of a wild game.

There was also a play earlier where Duke went forward on fourth down.

We were on stream.

We showed the highlight of it.

Guy just sort of running around aimlessly in the backfield like pulling the old techmo super Bowl, waiting until something was supposed to be like a double pass that wasn't there.

Then he was like, well, I bet better start running backwards and hope for the best.

So this is destly not show up.

Not the cleanest game in the world, but no had some fireworks down the stretch in a cool rivalry.

Win your clunkers.

As always, a win is a win.

The SMU game stood out to me just because SMU has some real stakes now and you know again, Louis those crazy banged up.

They were without Miller Moss, they were starting a freshman Deuce Adams at quarterback, without two running backs.

I mean, just crazy hurt.

So it's hard to beat a quality team like SMU given those circumstances.

This one felt like it was over almost right away, you know.

I mean, obviously the injuries don't help, but this is a quality SMU team that I think is hunger to try and get back to that ACC championship.

They're on the precipice of doing it.

What they need is one more win SMU.

Right now, if you're an SMU fan, you feel pretty good about where things stand.

Definitely, they're they're finishing quite strong.

The defense has taken a night step forward and did it against a shorthand Louisville team.

How do you feel about Miami Dan largely good, continued pop between Carson Beck and Malachai Tony.

The running game kind of I don't know.

It's not bad.

It's above average, but it's sort of slowed down recently, which I don't think is a great sign.

Obviously they're beat up in that running back room, but turning to youth with a ton of talent, it seemed like it was gonna play bigger dividends, and they gave up some bigger runs to Virginia Tech.

I don't think this game.

I don't think they were ever truly in danger in this game.

And so because they have the defense that they have, there's still a team with penalty issues.

Ty, I know you've harped on this a bunch that Mario chriswal keeps talking about needing to address them.

I don't know what they're doing to address them in practice, because they seem to be lingering on and on.

But no, I mean a really nice day between Carson Beck and malachay TONI that was enough, made enough plays on defense and set up a really nice showdown against Pitt next week.

And Virginia Tech is in their full on look at our new toy mode with James Franklin.

I'm telling you, I get I understand why everybody's excited about James Franklin of Virginia Attack.

He looks uncomfortable to me, or maybe I am projecting my level of uncomfortable on times possible what I am seeing.

It does not feel right to see him in the maroon.

I think he screwed up Enter Sandman.

Yeah, think you said enter the Sandman or something like.

That's okay, it's okay, you're new, you'll figure it out.

But I don't know.

You gotta get that song right.

That's a pretty big.

One's let's go over to the Big ten for a second, if we can.

Let's with your newly Bowl eligible Northwestern Wildcats.

The streets on the north shore of Chicago running purple.

The streets on the north shore are running purple.

They won thirty eight to thirty five in Wrigley.

In Wrigley, missed field goal attempt late a makeable field goal from Minnesota, and it was a complete performance on offense for Northwestern.

Drake Lindsay had a really nice game from Minnesota and Wrigley.

And you don't see a lot of thirty eight to thirty five Northwestern games come across the tailor.

You really don't.

I didn't watch a ton of this from what I saw, a lot of excitement on the Northwestern end.

They were down fifteen, I want to say, yeah, man, and just kept churning, kept finding big plays.

Preston Stone had a nice day.

Yeah they're going bowling.

Stop me when I get to a game that jumps out to you, Okay, okay, Ohio State forty two to nine, It.

Jumps out to me, not the results, because this game, I mean, it was a slow start for Ohio State.

Defense was great as expected.

No Carnel Tate, no Jeremiah Smith.

So I don't know what level of concern there is.

They didn't seem too concerned on the sideline, but there's a pretty big game next week.

Yeah, and they seem to be shorthanded.

Bo Jackson's the guy, which is nice to establish at this point.

But yeah, curious to see what those dudes look like.

Because this was a Max Claire game for Ohio State.

Receivers definitely didn't pop to me for Ohio State anytime I turned to this game, and so a lot has been made about Ohio State is sort of taking a very slow approach and trying to peak in January, which I think is a good idea.

Yeah, but yeah, slow start turnover.

I don't know nothing actually concerning for when they play in big games because they still have that quarterback and defense combination.

But I don't know if your Winter Wonders and Carnell Tait and Jeremiah Smith are not their full selves even when they're on the field and suit it up.

It's not my favorite thing for Buckeyes.

Michigan wand forty five to twenty on the road against Maryland.

They were two touchdown favorite going into this one.

Nice complete performance.

Yeah, Yeah, I thought this was a good showing.

There's always no Jordan Marshall.

No Jordan Marshall.

I mean, there's always potential when you've got a big game on deck, especially a rivalry like the game that you could see some weird results the week before.

Also, this was Maryland and they just announced that Mike Loxley is going to be retained.

There was some conversation about whether or not they were going to relieve him of command to go in different directions.

So, look, Maryland got off to a hot start.

Stop me if you've heard this before.

They're finishing with a bit of a whimper.

They are very young, which I think they have going for them.

I do like their quarterback Moleague Washington, but at the end of the day, Michigan's just a better team.

They're now nine to two again.

To continue the trend and the theme that I have been bringing up with all of these conferences, if Michigan were to knock off Ohio State next week, that opens up some possibilities for the Big Ten championship game.

If Ohio State wins that game, in barring any kind of collapse from Indiana, we're going to see Ohio State Indiana one versus two in that Big Ten championship game, if in fact, Ohio State were to lose again for the fifth straight year to Michigan, opens up the possibility for Oregon should they be Washington.

If Oregon should lose on.

The road to Washington, it could mean that Michigan gets into that game against Indiana.

So these are unlikely possibilities, but I think it warrants mentioning that there is still some wiggle room atop that big ten, even though it elements of it feel like something of before gone conclusion.

Yes, more specifically to this game and what could be interesting ahead of next week.

So Max Bretison got hurt, who has been there like heartbeat of the Trench stuff as the fullback sort of HVAC and you know, a big deal in their offense and the way that they operate in their power rushing attack.

No Smage Morgan, no Ernest Houseman in this one for Michigan.

I don't think there were and listed on the injury report, so that's sort of curious if they're just resting.

Who knows.

I don't know the specifics there, but a nice comfortable win obviously they weren't missed.

Jordan Marshall, I think by all accounts should be good to go for Ohio.

State elsewhere in the Big Tan just real quick, Dan, if we could.

We had a win for Iowa late.

A late field goal gets the dub for them.

We had a win for Wisconsin over Illinois, a ranked win.

Just suffocated them as well.

Illinois could not do anything on offense, and not that Wisconsin was blowing the doors off of them, but they played winning football once again.

Took down another I don't know if Washington was ranked when they beat them, but they took down another ranked team in Illinois.

Washington currently up twenty seven to ZIP saw that over UCLA in the third quarter at time of recording.

Looks like they're going to go on to win here and elsewhere.

Penn stint Nitny lyons, Yeah, Man thirty seven to ten Man over Nebraska.

State's going bowling next week, right, they gotta beat Rockers.

They're going bowling.

That's not bad.

Ethan Grunkemeyer missed one pass he was eleven or twelve in a touchdown and K Tron Allen had won sixty.

Nick Singleton had two touchdowns on the ground, was a contributor through the air in the receiving game.

This is a very very nice showing for Penn State.

And I was genuinely questioning what this was going to look like down the stretch.

I know, after James Franklin gets hired, you know, where where's the team at?

What are they playing for?

Are they playing for themselves?

Are they playing to get the year over with?

Where are they at?

This was a really nice showing against the Nebraska team that's got its own issues for sure.

But the other thing that I noticed, and I'm going to point out, and I'm not necessarily slamming NBC or anyone for doing this, because I understand the storyline.

NBC came in real hot with the pro Terry Smith.

Oh really?

Oh yeah, I mean they talked about it endlessly on the broadcast.

Is he interviewing I believe.

I believe he's interviewed for the job.

Okay, Pat Craft said as much when he gave his remarks right after they relieved James Franklin of command that Terry Smith would be considered for the for the for the coaching job.

You know, you kind of have the standard thing going on right now where the players trying to rally behind their interim coach because they all know him and they love him.

Terry Smith is a Penn State guy through and through, so he's definitely going to have some support in that building.

I would like.

To think there are some better options out there or accomplished as a head coach.

Not to say Terry Smith is not qualified, but it was just notable to me.

I would expect it from the team to be walking around with higher Terry Smith signs.

I think that's kind of standard whenever there's kind of a team favorite and he's been around forever, right of course, whenever you got a team favorite like that as the interim coach, he's going to have a lot of support within the building.

But I did not necessarily expect it on the NBC side, and they were definitely coming in pretty hot, laying it on real thick.

Okay, you know from black Ledge right on down that Terry Smith should be considered, So I think you will be considered.

I still be considered.

Yeah, I don't think he'll be the guy.

But look, the results speak for themselves.

A twenty seven point went at home over a team with, if nothing more, a pretty good defense, Nebraska.

I think this was an impressive showing for Terry Smith and PennState.

Yeah, strategies seem to be I went through this one quickly.

But just like sit on the clock right, be successful.

Don't give the ball back if you don't need to.

And the first half was a long touchdown drive, a long field goal drive, another long touchdown drive, a short touchdown drive off a short field, and more of the same in the second half.

And it was Kate Tronaw and it was inaccurate Ethan Grunkemeyer.

I don't know if he was how many he was popping deep, but he was accurate as hell.

And a nice win, nice comfortable win for Penn State.

And again they should finish six and six all things considered, after you lose the way that you do to UCLA Northwestern and then Iowa.

Yeah, a nice turnaround run so far.

And let me just add, and I know this has been popular in the Penn State circles, but it's nice to see Kobe Howard out there.

Kobe Howard is their young receiver, their freshman receiver who everybody was gung ho on in the build up to the season, and then the season started and he was nowhere to be found.

Didn't see him at all.

Every patch, everybody was talking his kid up in the preseason, a freshman out of Florida, I believe, and was just nowhere.

And so they have given him a little bit of a run now over the last few weeks.

And this is not to say he's getting like a mass target share or anything like that.

He only had one catch in this game, but we have I've seen his ability to produce chunk plays and we saw it again.

He had one catch for thirty one yards in this game.

And it's just, of course, everything's easier in hindsight after you fire a coach and after the season goes off the rails.

But this is just one of the decisions among many that we have seen this season in the Penn State world that does leave you scratching your head a little bit, given all the issues they've had at receiver.

And obviously they went out and they tried to bring a bunch of guys in, but it seemed apparent in the run up to the season that they had somebody recruited that was on the roster that they could plug in there and maybe get some chunk plays out of and they didn't use him.

So I'm glad to see that he's getting a run here.

I hope he sticks around because everybody seems to like his potential.

But if nothing more, even if they're not playing for a national championship, even if it's just for Bowl eligibility, it's good to see him out there.

Where do you want to go?

You want SEC?

Real quick, SEC.

Let's close out with the SEC group of five and then we'll play some messages.

Sure, Vandy forty five to seventeen over Kentucky combined with Texas fifty two to thirty seven over Arkansas.

Yes, two dominant offensive showings here.

On the Vandy side, they were up forty five.

To three at one point on Kentucky just murdered.

And I think they're about to get a five star quarterback as.

Well, about to get the five star quarterback the flip who I think you told me decommitted twice now from Georgia.

Hell, he hasn't decommitted the second time from Georgia yet, but that appears to be what's happening.

Pavia had five hundred and thirty two total yards, six total touchdowns, crazy showing.

And then on the Texas side, Arch had six touchdowns.

He's the first quarterback in Texas history.

To have a passing, a rushing and a receiving touchdown all in the same game.

Yes, three eighty nine through the air, four passing touchdowns, had the rush, had the trick play touchdown on the Philly special.

Fifty two to thirty seven.

Again was your final.

Yeah, thorough performance from Texas, arguably their first thorough performance on their SEC slate.

They had a comfortable win against Oklahoma, but I think one offensive touchdown in that one, so all it took was playing against the worst arguably the worst defense in the SEC, especially the worst pass defense.

But they did what a good team should do.

They still gave up a lot of points.

Arkansas was still able to move the ball.

But you know, this game was identified as a potential sloppy spot between the Georgia and Texas A and M games, and it most certainly was not.

Arch was protected, the offensive line was there.

It was a pretty complete performance.

Good to see that Texas may have some rhythm against you know, ahead of Texas A and M, which obviously is an enormous one next week.

For those listening at home, you may have noticed I didn't mention the Florida State game from earlier in the week.

In the AGA Sendzee State.

Yeah, and the reason I didn't do that is because I wanted to put it in this context.

Okay, Tennessee beat Florida by a thirty one to two or eleven score, Like immediately they were up thirty one a zip at half, they cruised the rest of the game.

They had four hundred and fifty two yards on offense.

Florida couldn't get anything going on offense.

And it is not lost on me that given the effort, the level of effort we saw from Florida this week, which felt like they were totally checked out to me, I don't know if that's fair, but that's how it felt to watch.

Yeah.

You combine that with the fact that Florida State had an incredibly ugly game against NC State, where I wondered a lot of the same stuff about Florida State when they played earlier in the week, like this is a team that just it.

It was an ugly affair.

Okay, they were a mistake prone.

It was just an ugly affair for the knowles Florida and Florida's play next week, they do and perhaps one of the great one to two three can Coon Bowls we've seen in a long time.

By the way, they technically don't have to.

It's not a compulsory thing.

They can just have a phone call and decide we don't need to do this.

There is no contest.

We're good.

You suggested maybe they'll play table tennis instead.

I would love that.

I would love camp games to decide this.

Yeah.

I suggested maybe they could do some sort of Revenge of the Nerds style, a rotation of events situation to decide who gets the win.

Here, but certainly on the football side, it feels to me like these are two teams that are checked out Florida State.

Florida State had four turnovers.

Congrat Stancy State for getting Bowl eligible.

Yeah, I'm not sure how Norvel comes back from this.

This is a really bad showing on the Florida State side.

So this is all to say, congratulations Tennessee on the win.

You win in the swamp.

Nice rivalry win for the for the balls.

But now moving forward the game next week between Florida and Florida State, I have to put that on a run the board game.

I have to.

I have to put it on there.

I have no idea what the points bread is gonna be I have no idea how you even handicap that game.

To me, it just seems like it's two teams that are checked out.

I think we saw that from both teams this week.

The fact that they play each other next week presents an incredible opportunity for a double like checkout game.

Listen, whatever happens next week, if Florida State does not have a punt return in which a random player has a full on punt doink off of his head that was incredible and bounce all the way back to the original line of scrimmage to have it recovered by the punter for a first down for the other team.

As long as that doesn't happen, or in a close game, if the punt returner doesn't have the punt bounce off of his face mask five minutes later, Floria State might be in an okay position.

Elsore in the sec A and M one Big Georgia, one big Alabama, one Big Auburn.

Took it to your beautiful Mercer Bears seven.

Dude Knight had seventy three hundred yards, so that was okay.

Duce Knight got the call.

Duce Knight had a really good game.

At quarterback for Auburn.

We'll see what happens next week in the Iron Bowl and last Banatali South Carolina with a win over Coastal Carolina fifty one to seven.

Oh in LSU by the way thirteen to ten over Western Kentucky.

We'll see what happens next week when they score off against Oklahoma.

Oh And also in the SEC, Hugh free shot a seventy three.

His mid irons were actually humming.

Short game was here and there, but all in all, he was happy with his day.

Over in the American, which I think figures to be the team or the conference with the inside track to get a team into the playoff.

We did have a win for two Lane on the road against Temple thirty seven thirteen.

We had a resounding, crazy statistical game for North Texas.

Fifty six to.

Twenty four over Rice.

Drew Mestamaker at one point had something like forty yards per attempt.

That seems good.

We also had a win for Utsa in resounding fashion over ECU, which basically knocked ECU out of the running for the American.

And to just sort of close things out, we had a win for Tulsa over Army it's a good win.

We had a win for South Florida over UAB and just sort of American adjacent here, I guess.

We had Yukon with a forty eight to forty five win over Florida Atlantic to get to nine and three on the.

Year the only time.

This is the first time in history I think Yukon has won back to back nine win affairs.

Crazy Man really great for Yukon.

I think right now the winner of the American is team that has the inside track.

Now, James Madison did win their game.

They needed a late bit of heroic to emerge victorious over Washington State.

Yeah, this is a good game.

They needed some style points.

They didn't get any style points, and this was not a particularly great game in terms of what teams did on third downs.

But JMU did out gain Wazoo.

They did not have a good game from Milanza Barnett.

I remember we talked about that a little bit when we previewed the game.

I thought ranwell better game, but it wasn't particularly great for him.

But this was Wayne Night leading the way on the ground for the Dukes and they've done it all year.

Give the ball the way Knight run the ball well, play solid on defense.

Yeah, that was sort of their formula here.

That's what they've done all year.

That's what they did in this one here against Wazoo.

And honestly, again, I don't know what what's Twazoo's record now five and it's a strange schedule, it's a strange year.

It's year one for Jimmy Rodgers.

All things considered, I think he's done a pretty decent job.

I agree, completely agree.

Any other games around college football that you want to highlight here, Dan, before we play some messages, before we do some doodle ors, before we let the fine people go well.

I mentioned New Mexico winning against air Force, and I want to say San Diego State was up in a low scoring game when we started out this show.

It's San Diego State up eighteen to three.

Right now, Fresno's up seventeen fourteen.

These are live games, so that's a back and forth game.

It looks like against Utah State Friday night, UNLV absolutely demolished Hawaii.

You loved the Rainbow Warriors there got they it damn work out, I know, but a nice game for Tony Calandra Anthony Calandra.

Boise State took it to Colorado State and once again New Mexico for air Force, and the could have an interesting Mountain West Championship game.

A lot of outcomes to be determined next week that will affect that elsewhere.

I think Southern miss lost, I want to say early in a back and forth game.

Yeah yeah, really to South Alabama and a bit of a shootout.

I'm trying to think what else jumps out to me that's on my list to watch when I have the time early in the next week's time.

Man, I watched the Louisiana Arkansas State game on Thursday night.

How was that?

That was one of the wildest starts to a game I've seen him forever.

They just kept fumbling back and forth.

It was insane.

There was no defense for the first half of that game.

It didn't feel like any team could tackle.

It was just super sloppy, but kind of a lot of fun to watch, you know, sort of what you'd expect from midweek football, and so it was.

It was entertaining, if not a little bit frustrating at points because it could have gone for a little bit more efficiency in my football right.

That's fair by the way, Western Michigan lance Taylor right their head coach running the army like shotgun option attack, having a really nice year in the MAC and just destroyed Northern Illinois.

And I think they're the only MAC team with only one loss in conference, So really nice here for Western Michigan.

We got a bunch of phone calls.

Dan Shaye tells me it's one of the better.

Reverb segments that we've had.

The Nice had a bunch of verbowlers dial in eight, five, five, verbal three.

Bear in mind, we've got one more reverb segment next week, and that's pretty much it.

I don't believe we've done it for a conference championship week in the past because there were a fewer teams playing.

So it's nice to see that the verballer hood is going out strong.

We got one more week to knock this out of the park.

Let's see what we're up against.

Here's what you had to say in week thirteen.

Hey guys, Dave from Santa.

Fe, New Mexico.

This is Scott from Utah.

This is Brandon from Great Big in Texas.

Hey guys, Grandma being here from Oregon.

Snake in the toilet doesn't quite work for me, but you're still my favorite go back.

The snake was in Utah's toilet.

Its name was Kansas State running back Joe Jackson.

Absolute dude running for two hundred ninety three yards an all time stadium record in a losing effort.

But ba, but ba, that Kansas State game just took ten years off of my life.

I feel like Wesley from The Princess Bride, except instead of Prince Humperdink and the count, it is Avery Johnson and Joe Jackson.

I'm going to throw up if that was my last name as a student and I am feeling sick.

Snake in the toilet Saturday?

How about sleeper Saturday?

You think I, as an Ohio State fan, am worried about next week's game?

Preposterous?

I'm fine, We'll fine, It's going to be fine.

Notre Dame Syracuse, Limb from Limb.

Starting to jump on stands.

Uh.

Jerry Danielson Haate twenty seven thirty five in the fourth quarter.

I guarantee you he does not understand any of the math behind going for two in that situation.

Dou the Dude Night coming to an Iron.

Bowl near you.

If the world knew about the steamy antics that occur in that that's a student union in rest in Louisiana, more people would recognize that Louisiana Tech.

Is bold eligible.

I ignored your window of opportunity, but did.

Just be cats.

As in the Missouri Tigers get shut down by.

The Oklahoma defense, as the Sooners refused.

To donate to your favorite pet charity.

Boomer Sooner, farewell, Lena, do to you faars Trojans, farewell going to do by day, Duff, you've been slaying youde received daughters.

To sail up there?

Whose sign now you fail?

So about the only Lincoln complaints.

Arch man in stat Laine tonight three hundred and eighty nine yards passing four touchdowns, one rushing touchdown, one receiving touchdown.

That is arch madness.

Bring them on the aggies, holkom horns.

This is Carol calling from New Haven, Connecticut to say Harvard still sucks.

Go bulldogs.

A wise man once said life is not a waste of time, and time is not a.

Waste of life.

So let's get wasted and have the time of our life.

FIU is going, boy, there we go our own nice beautiful Thank you to one and all for dialing in in by the way I mentioned wm O in Western Michigan.

It's Central Michigan who hired Matt drink All in they're running really nicely, not Western continue Lehigh Mountain Hawks, Dan.

You know what, honestly, we don't need to get into specifics.

There was a point in time where the Lehigh Lafayette game was the best game on TV.

Yeah, not kidding.

Early in the day watching some of these early window games.

You and I were going back and forth.

It's a tough watch when you don't have the yellow first and ten.

Line, that's tough.

Yeah.

And they also have the camera fixed on the clock on the scoreboard.

There's no digital clock, right, it's just a shot of the clock on the scoreboard.

That's right, That's right.

But that's right.

This is a back and forth the game.

It was a good game, it was a fun game.

Lehigh emerged victorious.

They're now going to go into the FCS playoffs.

So the Patriot League Lightning Round will continue.

Mm hmm for as long as Lehigh continues.

It's played in the FCS playoffs.

We shall see what happens with Hava Dan.

I mean, yell beat him to win the IVY.

That's tough.

Yeah, I mean good for Yet I don't have any other FCS insights who won the Brawl of the Wild tie and putting it with Montana State one that one Dan three over number two.

Good job thirty one, twenty eight.

Maybe I want to say thank you everybody for dialing in.

Do you got doodle alerts, handy, Dan Rubinstein?

I do.

Each week we pay homage to the guys out there who have awesome weeks.

We make a social media post.

They're called a dood alerts.

Who do we got for week thirteen?

Dan, I've got Joe Jackson Kansas State.

Jeremiah Love ran for seventy two hundred yards for Notre Dame against Syracuse on six carries.

Diego Pave at Vanderbilt should be retired, Wyat Young Drew Mestamaker's target for North Texas Boozy Turner.

We mentioned at Pitt the Freshman.

A bunch of quarterbacks had huge days, some in losing efforts, like Caden Veldt Camp for FAU went for almost five hundred yards and a couple of touchdowns in a losing effort in that shootout.

Braylon Braxton at Southern Miss in a losing effort, but through three touchdowns at four hundred yards.

Colton Joseph had a great game for Old Dominion and their big win over Georgia Southern Dominic.

Richardson for Tulsa in their upset against Army went for over two hundred yards.

I mean, Deuce Knight, it's against Mercer, but it's a dude in that.

Like, what's gonna do against Alabama next week?

Are they just getting them ready to throw for the Wolves?

I guess so.

Gosh, so we got Iron Bowl intrigue based on Duce Knight and Knight's due to.

Billity And by the way, speaking of Auburn, we got this suggestion Brian Battie from us SO Senior Day on Senior Day, right, he was shot in May of twenty twenty four.

Today he walked out on the field to be honored on Senior Day with his class, which was like a really cool moment.

Yes, I agree, So let's give him a dood alert, shall we?

Absolutely, that absolutely has earned it with his recovery.

I want to thank everybody for tuning in here this evening.

It was a long day for us.

We did the long stream.

Yes, we had our best to keep track of all the games.

The schedule will be a little bit different this week for those of you who watch the videos.

Dan's going to be out of the normal office, so it'll look a little bit different, but we're still going to do what we do here in preparation for a gigantic Week fourteen.

I don't think we're going to be releasing an episode on Thanksgiving because we've tried that in the past, and trust me, nobody downloads anything on Thanksgiving.

Nobody has time to watch videos on Thanksgiving, So in all likelihood, will be putting our episodes out a little bit earlier in the week, but you're still going to get the same content that you need to get ready again for a massive rivalry week.

Crazy that we're already here, but it is going to be very significant.

There are big games on Friday, there are big games all throughout the day on Saturday, and of course there will be a lot of conversation on Sunday as we have championship games figured out, as we start talking a little bit more intently about what the playoff matchups could be.

There is a lot still to be settled and we've only got two weeks left.

This is where this thing goes in college football, at least in the good years.

Dan, So I'm excited about what is in store.

We've got a lot of work ahead of us, but we appreciate that for ballerhood supporting us for what we do, not just earlier today with our stream, but by following by subscribing, by supporting us out at a ballers dot com agree.

All right, folks, thank you so much again for downloading, for listening, for supporting.

We will be back in very short order here to get you prepped and ready and excited for Week fourteen.

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In the meantime, you know the drill, Stay solid, Peace

MHM.