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And down and tie Dan Rubinstein On Thursday.

If you recall, we dubbed college football Week four as sock them in the mouth Saturday.

And the reason for that was we was you, We was We were all expecting that some of the more prominent teams might face a different kind of test, get punched in the mouth in a different sort of way.

We didn't really get upsets in Week four, but we did sort of get that, did we not?

We did see some different tests.

I don't think that we were fully equipped and ready for.

But now on the flip side of it, as we speak to the verbawler hood here at midnight Eastern time, live on the YouTube channel into the millions upon millions listening on demand at home, I think we got a little bit of sock them in the mouse Saturday?

Did we not?

I think so?

I mean, how is Utah going to respond when it's Will Hammond time?

And the answer is not great?

The answer was Utah struggled with Will Hammond.

It was a good game until Big Bill came in.

Big Bill Hammond came in and was succeeding downfield, So that kind of counts.

Obviously, there's a ton of games there are unexpected results, not huge upsets at the top, mainly because Clemson is unranked at the moment, so we consider that to be a moderate upset.

I guess is how we could phrase that.

But no, I think we got a little bit like I think Michigan State went up early on USC and then USC just bounced back.

That game is happening as we speak, because it is the middle of the night as we are streaming this live and recording this.

But no, I think in various capacities like Florida's defense once again came to play.

Sure we can question Florida's ability to get up and make plays on defense and try to do its part to win football games against quality teams, that's not the problem.

So there is something sock a me that a word that's close to another word that I don't love about Florida's defense that you know that was a game against Miami because of the defense.

So yeah, we can look across this great land in this great sport and say like, how did a specific element or beginning or first half or first three quarters of a game make a team respond?

And I think that's that's interesting.

Well, look on today's episode, we're going to go through all the big games and storylines like we usually do on the live stream.

Yeah, we're also going to have the usual stuff like reverbs.

I cut the reverbs earlier, got a great batch here.

We're going to go through your doodl alerts as well.

But tonight we're going to do something a little bit different, and that is back half of the show.

We're going to take some live questions.

We figure the people who are up lift and fully plugged into college football and still unable to unwind enough to go to sleep.

If you're watching us now, this is for you.

Get those questions in now.

We'll pick out a few of our favorites here towards the back half of the episode and answer that.

Do we have somebody collecting curating or I'm on the fly you're curating?

Yeah, I'll try to do.

I got like gate screens going here, I got buttons, I got sounds.

I gotta deal with you and the games and people yelling at me because I predicted Illinois, or because I predicted a potential loss for BYU, all these things.

Yes, I was wrong.

Again, that's the way this works.

But we are happy to be here to say the absolute very least hit follow hit subscribes that you don't miss any of our episodes moving forward, Dan, let me start here, please, And I asked the same of the people who are watching live or for the people who are listening on demand.

I want to hear from everybody, Dan Rubinstein, on which game, which team impressed them the most in Week four?

If this was truly a week of tests or new situations for us to evaluate, which team, in your mind faced a new test and faced it down admirably.

Where does your mind go first?

North Texas scored three points against Army last year, right, did they win it?

Or leading this off with the mean green of North Texas?

Ty, I'm keeping you on your toes, brother, Okay, there's no reason, Okay, where does my mind go first?

In terms of how somebody responded or how somebody jumped up and jumped out and made noise something like that, that's what you're asking me.

Yes, yeah, I kind of think Texas tech me too.

I'm glad you said Texas Tech.

I feel the same.

Okay.

So my general thought going into the season about Texas Tech was They're going to be good.

I'm not sure how good.

I'm not sure how much of my emotion I'm willing to invest in a team that is actively investing in their team in a way that is new for them, and there's so much new to go along with some a lot proven as well.

Going to Utah I think is difficult for basically everybody.

Utah has been running the ball really well, has been playing good defense, and there was something about Texas Tech in the mistakes they were making, obviously in the way that Utah wasn't able to move the ball all that consistently on offense, and then dealing with a quarterback injury and in effectiveness from the passing game, and then to finish after three tight, physical quarters the way that they did downfield fearlessly with a second year quarterback coming in cold again in rice Ecles.

There was something about Texas Tech's performance in a really frenzied environment with I think what big nowon was in Salt Lake that they answered the bell in a very big, impressive way.

To me, and so that specific win coupled with I think what TCU was able to do today, Yeah, makes and they don't play each other, I don't believe during the regular season, and then how ASU finished against Baylor in an absolutely losable spot.

There was a lot not fully answered.

But I love the data we got from the Big twelve today.

Yeah, I agree on the Texas Tech front, I mean, why don't we start there since this was one of the games.

There were three games in Week four between ranked teams, and this was one of them.

We previewed this sort of an advance on Tuesday, did a little bit of a deeper dive.

But Tech ended up winning this one thirty four to ten.

But it was a thirteen to ten game with about ten minutes left, and it was at that point that Texas Tech ripped off twenty one on answer.

They ended up winning this one.

Going away to your point, there were two elements of the way that Texas Tech won this game that really impressed me.

The first, obviously was Will Hammond.

Okay, Will Hammon is the backup quarterback.

He comes in after Baron Morton bunks his head on the field.

He is absolute money.

I think he started seven for seven.

Gush Johnson at one point on the broadcast called him Johnny Unitis, which maybe not want to go that far, but I don't think it's wrong to draw a loose comparison to Will Howard.

Right with the way that they used him in this football game.

They put him on the run a little bit.

He obviously was very, very accurate.

We've seen elements of that.

I saw that full well in the National Championship game.

What Will Howard the best of Will Howard could do.

So Will Hammond stepping in, as you said on the road, Rice ecles big spot game on the line, the way that he stepped up in that moment.

If you're a tech fan, you're thrilled because quarterback depth right now around college football is hard to come by.

So whether it's Morton, whether it's Hammond, moving forward, by the way, are we gonna go Bill Hammon?

Are we going to do the world of Bill conversion?

I mean there's something to play with with the word ham in there as well.

We'll workshop that on the slide.

But yeah, regardless, him stepping in and doing what he did I thought was damn impressive.

The second thing, and we're not used to talking about this at all with Texas Tech.

But let's credit the defensive line, yeah, which played really well, definitely held up its end of the bargain against a Utah offensive line that I think many of us had pegged is one of the better units in the country.

No double digit runs for the Utah, the number one, I believe, most efficient rushing attack in America heading into this game.

Obviously, you know opponents are not the highest of quality heading into the Texas Tech game.

But Utah was doing, for the most part, really really terrific things on the ground, and Texas Tech absolutely upfront, especially the inside of that defensive line, just making a ton of plays.

Made an absolute ton of plays, especially upfront.

But I would say for the major already this game, it kind of was a defensive battle, and I was trying to think back, like, when was the last time we can honestly say that Texas Tech won a defensive battle.

It's been a minute.

I can't ever remember, maybe in the history of us doing this show, dating back in two thousand and eight, having a conversation like that about Texas Tech, that's just not been their votes.

But they have, they've had good defensive players, they've had star power on defense, but as a collective unit.

Now it's been a minute, We've.

Never really looked to Texas Tech as this team that's gonna win a defensive struggle, and they found themselves in one against generally a pretty good defensive team in Utah, and they were the ones that emerged victorious.

So I credit them a lot.

Who knows if it's the coaching or the investment or the depth that they've built up, whatever it is, those guys I thought really came to play and they finished strong.

So from that aspect, yeah, I was really impressed with what I saw out of Texas Tech.

I was not impressed by the way with Devin dan Pierre and the Utah offense.

There's like a weird thing that goes on with the Utah tall offense and especially the quarterback position, where every new Utah quarterback over time becomes every old Utah quarterback that we're accustomed to seeing.

What did we used to say Rutgers just has like an ongoing rotation of Gary Nova's Was that our.

Old It's just the generic Utah quarterback who sort of has the attributes and if you don't have them at the start of the year you will by the end, Devin dan Pierre.

He was a tall version, a short version, like a thick version, a lean version.

Somehow they all have the same strengths and weaknesses.

Yeah, it's incredible.

So, I mean he had a couple of big plays, but mostly as a thrower, kind of inaccurate.

I thought looked overmatched in this game.

And again I just came away, damn and pressed with Texas Tech.

So thirty four to ten was your final score in that one.

I came away with the fourth quarter of Texas Tech offense.

The Baron Morton version, and I hope he heals up was not crazy inspiring.

No, I would agree with that absolutely.

Why don't we stay in the big twelve since you brought those up?

And I also tend to agree.

It was the one hundred and fourth and final meeting for the Iron Skillet between TCU and SMU.

TCU one by eleven, thirty five to twenty four.

Tough beat for me who bet the over and came up a couple points short, but whatever, good on TCU for the win.

I felt like there was also more defense in this game than I expected.

Yeah, which I maybe we both agreed.

I know This is my line of thinking going into this game that I just thought tc we thought there would be points.

I thought tc would be more likely to get stops, and they were able to obviously turn over Kevin Jennings in a crucial way.

And you know the difference was they had a fully unguardable receiver for Joshuver to throw too.

So really nice win for TCU.

This is done.

The Skillet's done.

You said the final meeting for now.

Yeah, that's what they tell me.

It's too hundred and fourth and final meeting.

But yeah, my takeaway is that the TCU defense definitely looked better than last year, which again isn't saying much, but just as one I think important example.

Last year they barely forced any three announce they were ninety fifth national.

Right in this one, they held a very good SMU offense to four of thirteen on third downs.

If we get this version of TCU.

There's something there.

Yeah, it's a tough schedule, Dan, it is, but everybody in the Big twelve has a flaw.

Yeah this versions you Yeah, who among us?

This version of TCU was just a marginally better defense, and with Josh Hoover and your guy Eric McAllister, who went for two hundred and fifty yards and three touchdowns.

Receiving that combination is something worth sitting up in your chair and thinking a little bit more about, because this was a good performance by them.

So kudos to Sunny Dykes and Josh Hoover and of course your guy Eric and Callister.

Yeah, definitely, Yeah.

It's now we're sort of gathering intel on what teams are bringing into the meat of their conference schedule, and TCU does have a very meaty schedule.

They're going to be very entertaining.

I could not agree more.

And then, of course, the one that just concluded here at the end of the night was the Arizona State twenty seven Baylor twenty four game.

This was also a defensive struggle for a good chunk of the game, was it not?

It was?

Yeah, the hell's going on?

This is the Big twelve, right, mm hmm.

This is a defensive struggle for a good chunk of the game.

The second half we started to see the offenses get more of a pulse.

The difference though, was Baylor turned the ball over three times.

Arizona State and still right there by the way, still right there, ASC won the turnover Battle Love three and even still Baylor was right there with opportunities near the end, either to get off the field or to punch something in, and Asu was able to close it out impressively.

And sam Levitt didn't have the best game through the air, but made plays with his feet, and you know, Asu found a way super entertaining game.

This was a better sam Levit game.

It was a better sam Levick game.

We haven't seen that much good out of sam Levitt, sam Levitt, excuse me so far this season.

This is a much better sam Levit game.

Yeah, and it helps to go up against Baylor defense that frankly is still struggling and still looking for some answers.

It is not reliable.

It hasn't been reliable in over a year.

Which just means Baylor's offense has to be that.

You know, the margin for air is that.

Much, such a slim margin, and Sawyer Robertson was fine Bryce and Washington was fine out of the backfield.

But yeah, Asu just.

Kind of warmed down man, and it does put a lot more pressure on that offense to deliver, and they weren't able to get more than twenty four points.

So I think impressed across the board between you and I, with Texas Tech, with Arizona State, uh, and of course with whom I forgetting here from the Big twelve TCU.

Yeah, the Colorado's playing right now.

Iowa State, I think was off this week.

I don't remember seeing an Iowa State's course.

Maybe I just completely miss They're off.

Yeah, they're off.

Yeah, we've eliminated Kansas State from the contending tier right now.

It's still a long season.

Teams can figure things out.

It doesn't seem like they're going to be one of those teams that figures it out.

But yeah, I'm sure I'm leaving off people who are going to threaten, but it's it should be fascinating.

Also impressed with Indiana.

Oh my god, let's all take a knee tie.

Guess who just got burded?

Holy crap, what happened?

Sixty three to ten?

Yeah?

Good?

Hell?

So I tried, like I told you offline, I said, you know, I tried to sit down with you man to man and calmly explain how this is going to go.

I obviously didn't say it was gonna be a fifty three points.

You didn't have to spread being fifty three points.

I didn't have that, but I think Illinois is pretty good.

But then you see a nine next to their name.

He's just like, ah, it's going to take a lot to convince me of that.

And you're quick to point out, I mean everybody's quick to point out, like maybe here's what Indiana lost, and losing their quarterback and a couple key pieces on either side of the ball.

But I don't know, if they feel pretty good about you, they're going to destroy your innards.

I mean, this is what I like about Kurt Signetti.

Yeah, and I get that he's probably not for everybody.

And I'm not even to hang around with Kurt Signetti all that much.

It doesn't seem like a particularly nice guy.

Yeah, but he will disembowel you if given the opportunity.

I thought for a hot minute he was going to try for eighty points in that game.

Sure.

I love the fact that he's got that killer instinct because he understands the situation that he stepped into.

And the truth of the matter is that Indiana last year made the playoff, but they needed to prove their worth to get into that playoff.

Now, there's still probably an argument in some sec circles as to whether or not they belong, but that's irrelevant.

Who cares, that's old news.

Yeah, Kurtzignetti knew that he had to go out there and blast teams to prove that this wasn't pixie dust and that this wasn't just luck of the draw, that Indiana would have a better season than we were accustomed to seeing.

And he's doing it again now by beating Illinois in a manner that they did sixty three to ten.

He is again making a statement.

He is again telling people he's putting the big ten on notice, putting the playoff committee on notice, and letting everybody know we are serious.

They could be better this year.

For all we know.

It's so hard to gauge because we have seen now two years in a row with Indiana where it's just this revolving door of new talent coming in.

But I think Fernando Mendoz is better than Curtis Rourke.

Well, he's definitely better than Curtis rock On an acl a feel like a broken thumb whatever he HAPs for last year.

Yeah, that is absolutely true.

But I think there is enough returning and they do have stars at all three levels of the defense.

They're maybe still trying to fill in the gaps otherwise, But again it's he understands the assignment, and the assignment is Indiana is not a blue blood team.

Indiana is always going to have a higher burden of proof to be taken seriously, and that's why he's gonna go out there and try to destroy you if at all possible.

Yeah, I remember, I think I woke up the Illinois fans that were living under whichever pebbles and rocks after I said, you know, implied that their wins last year weren't over incredible teams.

They're like a returning production.

Aha.

The South Carolina Bowl when ha ha, you elite guys, you just got what did t I say?

Disemboweled?

They got annihilated, they got I like Illinois Like, I still like Illinois, buddy.

They have asked c next week.

By the way, they might be un ranked in eight days.

I don't know, man, Yeah, we'll see.

But this this was if we're talking of week four in terms of who impressed us m H geez man, sixty three points was was getting close to that second mark that we liked.

It didn't take a long time.

It took like two and a half quarters.

Yeah, between the block punts and the big plays both through the air and on the ground, the defense is getting the hell off the field quickly, like they were just very precise.

I looked it up and I am thrilled that.

I mean, Indiana does too.

But Oregon has a bye week before they host Indiana, so that could be a potentially monstrous matchup.

Indiana has both Oregon and Penn State on the road.

It's a tough schedule obviously compared to last season for the Hoosiers, but I don't know, it's tough for everybody else too.

It seems.

Let's stay in the Big ten while we're here, and let's talk about this Michigan Nebraska game.

Okay, what stood out to you the most in Michigan's thirty to twenty seven win on the road in Lincoln.

A lot of slop on both sides.

What stood out to me the most is probably that Michigan seemed to have a more coherent vision knowing they weren't going to get a ton through the air from Bryce Underwood even though they took shots.

And there's obviously an internal knowledge that you're not going to be able to lean on receivers and tight ends at this juncture with Bryce Underwood that your success is going to come on the ground and defense, and they're just like, this is who we are.

We're not going to play conservatively, but we're going to lean into who we are, whereas Nebraska seems a lot more disjointed.

The offense seems like, hey, man, if Dylan Royola can figure out his feet and square up to make an interesting throw, there's something there, because they can run the ball some.

But I just at the line of scrimmage, what stood out to me was just Michigan was so much better than Nebraska.

And we're in how many years in are we of the Matt Rule era, and there's just like the offensive line got overwhelmed, the defensive line got overwhelmed by Michigan on the ground, and even the score was closer than it actually was, especially since they got a hail Nebraska got a hail Mary at the end of the first half.

But there's just something so a rhythmic about Nebraska's offense against a good team, And that's sort of me putting it nicely.

I watched this game and I was like, man, I feel like I want to send Nebraska fans snacks like I felt bad that Nebraska fans are losing close.

It seems like it's winnable, but the manner in which they lost, there's just a lot of sloppiness and disjointed this from drive to drive.

I just it was a lot of just sympathy, I think is what stood out to me well.

And I was super impressed by Michigan on the ground and just the big bodies, you know.

I mean, we don't compare our notes before we do this.

You do your thing, I do mine, And this is the first that we're talking out through.

And I jotted down the same thing that it was a three point game that honestly felt like it wasn't a three point game.

Yeah, and there might be some Nebraska people out there who disagree with it, but I just felt like the vibe I was saying.

People say that that Dylan Royola was pretty good.

I was like, guys, watch other quarterbacks, watch other good quarterbacks.

I just felt like fine.

I just felt like watching this game that Michigan was far and away the better team.

And maybe it was because they had more of a sense of self.

They had that yeah, they had that vision for what they wanted to be.

The truth is that Michigan had early opportunities, but their receivers let them down through the air.

You know.

They had one drop pass or the beauty throw from Bryce Underwood to I think it was Channing Goodwin in the corner of the end zone, which is there, and he just he couldn't bring it in.

And there was another one where it was wide receiver pass where they had a guy wide.

Open, correct and he was under throw.

And he shorted it.

Yeah.

So like you can see the potential as a thrower from Bryce Underwood, but he's not a finished product by any means.

I think he threw for like one oh five, had a fumble, right.

Yeah, he had.

They had like a misque eor.

Two guys were going deep in the same exact area down the sideline and it was It's very much a work in progress.

It's a work in progress.

He's very green.

You can clearly see the tools.

He's going to be good.

We can acknowledge that much.

I don't think this is a great offense at Michigan, but I think they've got the personnel to be good at doing what they did today.

If they can play this style football, against you, there's a pretty good chance that they're gonna win or they're going to be within the number.

Right, the game plan here was to try and bully Nebraska, which is what they did.

On both sides of the ball.

They were able to get some really big runs.

Justice Haynes another like huge game.

Michigan ended up running for almost three hundred yards.

They averaged close to nine per carry, but.

They weren't getting touched on some of those lots.

No, and this goes back to one of the things we talked about on the preview where we talked about Nebraska yards allowed before contact.

Right.

I was quick to bring that up with about other teams, and it didn't really apply in the way that Indiana.

Right, you're Indiana, You're like, okay, hear me out, Indiana is gonna struggle in a very specific note, we're not.

We're not, We're not going there.

But in this one, you were right to bring it up because it did come back to bite Nebraska.

Matt Rule even brought it up when he talked to our friend Jenny Dell that they couldn't stop the chunk plays on the ground.

It was killing him.

And then on the flip side, One of the things that I think we could really hang our hat on with respect to Michigan coming into the season was we knew they were going to be good upfront, or at least in the front seven.

Right, like lost a lot, but still enough back that we felt like they would be pretty formidable.

They owned Nebraska's front, yeah, seven sacks.

They held Nebraska to two of thirteen on third downs.

It's really tough to mount the charge against a team that can bully you like that.

It just is despiriting, to say the least.

So I give Michigan a lot of credit for the way they went in there and won.

This was a game that I thought there was a ton of pressure on Nebraska, and I don't know.

If I don't know, I need to go back and rewatch this one, I think to fully develop my feelings.

Maybe we can talk about that on Tuesday, But for now, I come a way feeling the same as you like.

This wasn't as close as the final score indicates.

Nebraska did get one on a hail Mary, and it felt to me for the overwhelming majority of this game like Michigan was the dominant side.

Michigan also almost gave it away with a dumb taunting penalty, a sideline taunting penalty.

Yeah, and also like if you just look forward, Michigan has like one and a half all the defenses left on their schedule.

Like you got to give a lot of people the benefit of the doubt that it's more than one and a half.

And that's Ohio State and USC in my eyes right now, and so they might be able to get away with this for a while, which is kind of crazy.

Oklahoma twenty four Auburn seventeen Dan This was sort of the headliner of the week.

There were a couple headliners.

I guess it depends who you're into and where you live.

But for all intents and purposes, I thought Oklahoma Auburn was the one that had the most star power.

And this game had a little bit of everything too.

You had some curious calls, you had some big plays, you had a safety at the end, like you name it.

This game had a little bit of everything.

There was a play very early on and this is the moment when I said to my wife, who did not care about this game whatsoever, but I just had it.

I had to speak it.

I said, this is how I know that oklahol Is winning this game because there was a replay review that overturned an Auburn scoop and score big break for Oklahoma.

There was also a touchdown pass to Isaiah Setana that may have been illegal per ESPN rules.

Analyst Matt Austin.

One of those deals where the receiver looks like he's running out of bounds getting subbed off stops before he gets there, everybody forgets about him.

Before you know what, he's running free for a touchdown.

That was the twenty four yard pass that ended up making it ten to three in the early part of this game from Johnny.

To be fair to that analysis, everything may or may not be something when Matt Austin weighs in during.

Matt Matt Austin, Yeah, always defense sitter, but alas look, it worked out for Oklahoma.

They end up winning a big one for them to get to four and oh.

They'll be five and oh after next week.

Going into the rivalry with Texas in week six, I think the defense looks incredible.

They were in the backfield all night.

They set a school record with ten sacks in this kiss.

They had seven sacks in the first half.

The end of the game out of safety right with a sack that was the tenth one Yeah safety say yeah yeah.

So like I'm not sure about the offense.

I think there's probably an offense question outside of job Matier.

Like they didn't run all they still can't run.

But Mattier is great.

Provided they're able to keep putting him in a situation to do what he does, they're going to be fine.

But right now, this is for as much I think of the headlines will be dominated by John Matier, this is still right now to me, a team that's dominated about a really good defense.

And as much as we think it's a good defense, because Auburn might just have a garbage offensive line tendency, I don't think it's a horrible offensive line.

I think this is gonna be a two things true.

At the same time, where Jack Snarld was holding onto the ball way too long at time, we're just like, make a decision, dude, throw it away, scramble, do something.

Because he when he did have opportunities to just pull the trigger quickly, right he hit Cam Coleman down the sideline out of his own end zone.

They're like, okay, he saw one on one, he hit one on one and it was just there was that there was an extra second, an extra second and a half, an extra two seconds.

We were just like, do something.

Listen and let me pause you right there.

Well, I was just gonna say, are Mason Thomas coming into the second halms?

Did do something?

Did do something?

What I was gonna say about Jackson Arnold.

I had been rooting for Jackson Arnold since he first came to college for whatever reason.

And everybody who listens to this is probably the same way I know you are.

It kind of looks like you with a mustache.

I get it.

Continue you find a recruit that, for one reason or another, you're just really interested in seeing how they progress the next level.

And for me, that quarterback was Jackson Arnold.

And so when he came up and when he got a couple early reps with Oklahoma and we had Oklahoma people riding in and telling us, seems like he sees the game, he processes it quickly, he can make the throws.

He's still green, but it seems like he might be the guy.

Yeah, last year it didn't work out.

He didn't end up being the guy.

Ma Tea is much more the guy.

But now Jackson Arnold gets his fresh start at Auburn.

As he said at the at the kind of start of the season, Auburn isn't typically where you go to seek out stability, but correct we hope it works for him.

I remain unimpressed by Jackson Arnold, and it hurts me to say that, but he looks slow to process.

He had throws that were there that he either didn't see or was inaccurate trying to deliver the ball.

Yeah, it just hurts my heart because I really wanted this to work.

He's still a very gifted runner.

Auburn is still probably going to be a pretty good team.

And this isn't to say that the whole Jackson Ronald experiment is going to be a disaster.

Yet it's still pretty early and he did, I think, go up against a pretty good defense here.

But we are seeing some of what we saw a year ago.

And that's just troubling to me because I'm still rooting for the kid.

Right here is just a pasa for parents out there.

If at some point Ty's like I watch this tape of this prospect he plays quarterback and I don't know, I just think he has it.

We can go to the Iowa stuff later.

Don't bring up market advance.

Well, we can talk about my leagu's I hear, we can talk about Mark Ronowski, we can talk about Jackson Arnold.

Don't talk about whoever you want.

It's just one of those fork in the road moments that you're gonna have to make peace with because your son has just been cursed by the Lehigh Valley cursor.

Oh my god, the occult forces of the tie cursor.

Out and out.

Just say the leads, like you know when when people just have that eye for like the most toxic possible relationship.

Tye has the eye for the most toxic possible five star wars.

It's incredible.

It's incredible, and it is now seeped out into my weekly picks because my weekly picks have been trash to the point now where if anybody wants to sponsor me to pick the team opposing your team.

That'd be fun.

Solidverbo at gmail dot com.

We could probably work something out.

Financial terms need to remain confidential, but.

So instead of the Lock of the week, it would be like the key of the week, Like I open up a win for your team.

We got to call it a lock.

We gotta do all.

We got to do the show like it's a real thing.

But I agree, I'm willing to be bought off.

Let's be real.

We're all trying to make a living here.

Oklahoma twenty four Auburn seventeen Oklahoma.

Interestingly enough, nice little front door cover.

I won't play the sound.

I don't want to annoy the dogs out there with the doorbell, but little front door cover on that safety.

They were favored by seven.

I think it closed at seven.

They were up by five.

Auburn had that one last down Jackson Arnold taken down to the end zone for his safety to get to seven to get the push.

Yeah, there you go.

Sorry about that.

Miami twenty six Florida seven, Dan m h What do you think of this one?

Okay, here's what I think about this one.

I think Miami's a really good team.

I think Miami has really good players.

I really liked I think because Game Day was there right in the morningtime show and Pat McAfee got an espiedo and jumped off of like a ten meter high dive platform.

Something right.

I only watched a few minutes, but they did something on Corey Hatherman and it was like violent, like swarming.

Violence is his like mo and I love that because it's also the initials of this show.

He's like a big sv guy.

Yeah, And there was something very fun about watching Miami tonight.

Even though they weren't pouring on the points with the majority of this game, they're still playing with that energy in an in state rivalry type spot on both sides of the ball.

And even though it was a slopping night at times for this offense, I just the defense is super fun to watch.

And again I talk about sympathy for Nebraska fans sympathy for Florida fans in that you watch the Florida offense and it's very clear that they have good players on this offense.

But it's also very clear they're like, Okay, what's your plan here for Vernell Brown or Jaden Ball?

What's your plan here for DJ Lagway?

Like the line isn't there, what's the plan?

The deep threat isn't consistently there?

Okay, what's the plan?

And like the word back from Gainesville is just like your guess is as good as mine, And I just I feel bad because DJ Lagway seems to have all the talent in the world.

But with as many bad decisions as he made last week, the worst decision seems to be that he committed to Florida.

Like he could have gone somewhere and be developed and have an offensive coordinator in a system and turned into what he potentially could be.

Florida's not that place, and it doesn't seem like it's going to be that place for a little while.

One of the interesting, I guess sides of the whole Florida thing right now is I think back to last year when they put DJ Lagway in as a true freshman.

Of course billiy Napier was on the hot seat.

Then this isn't a new thing.

He's been on the hot seat for a while.

But you put in a true freshman quarterback, you tend to buy yourself a little bit of grace.

You know, you can experience some of those growing pains, and I think people will give you They'll give you a bigger safety net, let's say.

Sure, especially if you can't afford the buyout.

Especially if you can't afford the buyout.

And that's the other side of it here, if you want to be super cynical about it.

But it's something that Florida was a conscious choice that Florida made instead of buying him out.

They're going to reinvest in the program.

They're going to put better players around Lagway, which I think was a good idea.

Sure, Billion Napier's out of excuses at this point, though, and one of the reasons why he's out of excuses is not just because he has the players, but because he remains insistent on calling these offensive plays.

And this has been, like I think, a real source of contention among the Florida people that write in to us week in and week out, but especially in a game like this that like they were there, they were kind of there.

This was thirteen to seven, and they had a lot of momentum in the third quarter of this football game, and it subsequently vanished.

The deeper we got into this thing, Miami started to assert its will a little bit more.

But like I just I'm thinking throughout the course of this game, watching, as you said, an offense that doesn't seem to have much of a philosophy or a plan or just just a vision.

I don't know, and I'm thinking to myself, could Billy Napier have purchased a little bit more grace for himself by assigning the play calling to somebody else or getting a different offensive coordinator or a different setup.

It's not all on him to do this, and then they can blame somebody else if it doesn't work for whatever reason.

They're still sort of doing the same thing, banging their head against the wall, driving Florida people insane, knowing as you said that there's a lot of talent on this offense, but not really knowing what to do with it.

It's truly like a where do I put my hands moment?

Yeah, with this Florida offense, and it's a bummer.

It's a bummer because this one was there.

They went zero for twelve on third downs.

Their defense played lights out, I thought, for the majority of this game.

But they can't.

They played lights out all year.

They played lights out against US, against USF you name it.

Yeah, you know.

And the other thing is I would add this, we did see a little bit of Mario mode at the end of this one, didn't we.

Miami did tighten up a bit, they pulled away, they did score, but it was very conservative and tight light.

Yeah, we saw we saw a little bit of him going into that mode.

I got the sound on the board at the ready firm now until forever.

If Miami's defense continues to look as legit as it appears to be, it's kind of a one game season.

It's in two weeks against Florida State, Farta State.

Yeah, because there's no team on this schedule that has that seems to have the talent and the speed and the aggression on both sides of the ball.

It doesn't mean they're gonna go twelve and oh eleven and one, but I'd much rather be a Miami guy than a Field guy right now.

Well, they're lucky too because they don't have to play Clemson, you know, Clemson being my preseason number one national championship contender, not on not on the schedule either, So that really works to their favor.

You really know how to pick them, you really know how to do it.

I'm fearful for what this means for Penn State since they were my national championship pick.

But alas, okay, Clemson lost to Syracuse Dan.

They did, and they didn't just lose.

It took us like a six hour stretch of time.

This is kind to have been the longest game in history, or at least feel that way.

If you were a Clemson fan.

Because there was a lengthy weather delay, it just sort of delayed the inevitable.

I guess, I don't know.

They got picked apart by Steve Angeli before he got hurt, So Angelly and Syracuse were moving the ball way better than you would expect against what I thought would be a better defense.

And he goes down in the third quarter with a non contact injury on his left leg, had to be helped off.

Ricky Collins comes in the rest of the way, wasn't great, but did throw a touch up pass, a huge touchdown pass that extended the lead to twenty thirty four to fourteen, which was kind of a dagger in the second half of this one.

But obviously, like the Syracuse thing, is exciting.

I'm glad Syracuse got to win.

The schedule is harder this year.

It was always a question of are they going to find a way to get back to six wins.

I think they're going to get the six wins.

The bigger question that was Clemson, Man, are they still a question?

Well, no one question.

The questions different now.

The question before was well, are they just playing good teams?

Are they going to find a way to get this together.

What's taking so long for them to get this together?

That was a question before They're one and three.

Now, man, this is the worst start in Dabo Sweeney's career at Clemson.

And this is after he went to the podium earlier in the week and went on that crazy rant.

So the question now is not how is Clemson going to get back to where many of us thought they would go?

The question I think is more existential now.

Honestly, I'm not going to advocate for getting rid of Dabo Sweeney.

I don't even think that's even a possibility.

But honestly, what is this team now?

That's the question for me.

I honestly don't know.

Can a full program have the yips.

I've talked about specific players because I still think we're fairly certain there are many good players on this team.

They should be better than this.

That is what I come out of every Clemson game feeling they should be better than this.

We know the talent that brought everybody back, right, they made the roster even better.

They should be better than this.

Why aren't they?

I don't think their passing game is that good.

I don't think they can stop the run.

I don't think there's just a lot of confidence on either side of the ball.

And to me, truly, the story here is Syracuse.

Oh, because as much as it's like what's going on with Clemson, like we've said this, this is like a full month of it, so at a certain point you just sort of are what you are Like Clemson.

People are now in the mode of like, are we twenty twenty four Florida State?

Is that what's happening right now?

Can you tell me if that's what's happening so I can mentally and emotionally and spiritually prepare myself for a two and ten season as everything collapses around me.

Just let me know, just please let me in on the secret here.

Syracuse does not and does not ever appear to be the type of program that's like, well, we're big underdogs here, we might as well like pack it in and play slow and really limit possessions like friendmals, like let's go straight at him, that's his entire mo is.

Let's run straight at them, let's throw down the field, let's make them stop us, because we believe we are good enough to inflict a lot of damage on this team, and that's what they did from the start with Steve Ageli, with John Tey Cook, with the running game like they were.

They played fearlessly because if you watch Clemson this year, what is there to fear?

And so they didn't try that tactic of an overmatch team or a quote unquote overmatch team.

They struggled with Yukon mightily.

I think Yukon just barely beat Ball State.

I want to say this is not going to be an incredible Syracuse team, but they were not intimidated at all by going to Clemson and playing the Tigers.

And that's coming from the head coach.

Yeah you know, I mean you will get their hardest effort for sixty minutes and they might lose by forty, but they might also beat you.

Yeah, the way they did Clemson in Clemson after a lengthy weather delay, when you know, who knows what happens, right, It's I think a real success story for fran Brown.

I gotta tell you.

I mean I don't want to see him leave Syracuse and I don't think he's gonna if you believe any of his past statements.

But.

Indicators are that this is going to be a much more active coaching carousel this year.

You at least got to make him say no, at least got to consider him, make him say no, because he's proven he can attract talent, He's proven he can build a culture quickly.

He's proven he can go and beat a school like a Clemson.

Again, I don't want to see him leave, but you wouldn't blame any of the major programs for giving a call and saying, hey, Fran, how are you feeling updarre in Syracuse.

He's from the northeast, though, which is nice.

I mean doesn't mean he's going to stay in the Northeast, from like the Philly area.

I want to say so.

Yeah, I mean he's an acquired taste.

I happen to have acquired it.

Yeah, I'm a fan.

But yeah, we'll see how that sort of like fun brashness plays everywhere.

If he is going to look for something more prestigious in the college football world.

I'm having fun with him at Syracuse.

Memphis thirty two, Arkansas thirty one.

Memphis was a seven point home dog at kickoff.

You were pretty interested in this game.

Yeah, I called this from Memphis.

I believe you called it from Memphis.

I also bet Memphis because I believe in you, Dan, Thank you.

And one of the things that I think we have seen in the early going, though not much in this game, is that the Memphis defense was a little bit better than we had seen in recent memory and now after the beginning, yes, after the beginning.

And that's important because this is a team that was pretty much all offense.

It's been an infamous half team for the last five years or so.

But to play a little bit more.

Defense and not drop off too much on offense after a guy like a Seth Hennikan graduates off the program, that's significant.

And it's especially significant in twenty twenty five because whoever is making it from the G five ranks into that playoff G six six.

Excuse me sort of, I mean PAC twelve is sorry, Yah'll continue.

But that team at this point feels like it's very much in flux, and so Memphis has just sort of been lurking, and this is a game that they obviously could use to kind of catapult themselves into that conversation a great and I think they did that.

I need to go back and watch this one closer, but from what I could gather, Arkansas ran it pretty effectively early.

Then stopped doing it, and Memphis came back, then started back up and ran to the point where they were trying to go for a game winning field goal and then they fumbled it.

Basically for the second straight week, fumbled away an opportunity to win the game, and then Memphis ran out the clock, and that was the story of this one.

Yeah.

Also that the I mean you mentioned the G five, G six, you know, hierarchy at the top.

They had an opportunity to play an SEC team and add to their resume, as did Tulane, and Tulane got absolutely picked apart bones and all by Trinidad Chambliss and so all of this and they're playing each other.

Yeah, and I think I think Memphis plays both Tulane and USF.

So that's kind of fascinating down the stretch to see how this all unfolds.

But yeah, you want that feather.

You absolutely want to need that feather.

If Memphis is gonna say consistent and in that resume conversation, looking at.

Their schedule, they've got a monster matchup with Tulane in week eleven, So if all holds right now, and as you said, Tulane didn't do much against Ole Miss but that doesn't necessarily eliminate any of these teams from contention.

That matchup with Memphis is going to be pretty big, so we'll look forward to that.

Thankfully you got a couple of weeks before we get to that point, but definitely one to keep on your radar.

Generally speaking, though, if we kind of turn our focus to what else went down in the SEC, I think we covered most of the action.

I did plan on playing the crock potting sound.

Yeah, I wanted to play that for the old miss win.

You kind of beat me to the punch, but thank you.

Forty five to ten over tu Lane.

Yeah.

Trinidad Chambliss, who played in plays of Austin Simmons, was incredible.

Yep.

The other big one that went down tonight was Missouri twenty nine, South Carolina twenty Super fun.

It's a really fun game.

We previewed this one on Thursday.

My curiosity was the game plan, like, what's that going to look like?

I was hoping we would see what we did end up seeing tonight, which was find a way to get Bouprabuele a little bit more on the move with his legs.

Obviously, lean on a guy like an mad Hardy, who's been very very good since transferring over agree and you know, find ways to find ways to make South Carolina relatively one dimensional.

You know, don't let him run it, force Lenora's sellers to throw it.

Just limit the ways that he can kill you when they've got the football right.

They did an awesome job on all that stuff.

And to boot, they outrushed South Carolina by a two to eighty five to negative nine margin.

Dan, that's a helpful, hellul place to be.

Unbelievable.

So Miszoo another one of these teams, right, you talked about Michigan earlier.

Michigan plays one and a half real defenses at time of recording.

Miszoo relative to their peers in the SEC, has a pretty advantageous schedule.

So maybe just a team to keep your eye on.

I don't know what people think of South Carolina at this juncture, but something to be aware of.

I mean, South Carolina has an absolute star of a quarterback who can make plays that nobody else in this conference or probably America can make, just in terms of buying time with no offensive line and delivering something beautiful into the awaiting hands of somebody.

Thirty eight yards downfield.

He's incredible.

They have really good players.

He is not behind a line that can be depended on for anything over the course of four quarters, and he cannot do it himself.

As much as we like to call him the creator, he is the biggest part of a team that is struggling to play consistent offense and get off the field on defense.

At times, I don't mind this defense.

I think the South Carolina defense can do enough to win games.

Bo Barbule is kind of interesting to me.

Yeah, man, He's not amazing, no, And I don't think if somebody makes Miszoo one dimensional and forces a bunch of three and three and eight third and eights and stuff like that, I don't think he's the greatest.

But like, is there a little bit of John Mattier in Bo Brabula or vice versa.

There's something there.

And I like Missoo's ability, and I like their schedule moving forward, They're gonna win a bunch of games.

I like them.

Yeah, bou Bbuela looked good.

He's looked really good since coming over for Penn State, and I think we're gonna see a lot more of the game plan that we saw today, where they try to use him as a runner, but even as a passer, he's been pretty good when he's had the opportunity to do so.

So I think, you know, MISSOO is a team that people should just be aware of.

We ask you a very pointy question about a different conference, though, Please when you and I next record our next episode of the podcast, okay, which I guess would be Monday afternoon.

Yeah, is Luke Fickle still going to be the coach at Wisconsin?

So he got like the dreaded vote of confidence right there were chants in the stadium like fire Fickle chants right after.

They did not look competitive at all against Maryland, which you gotta look competitive against Maryland.

The defense has looked good this year for the Terps.

Malik Washington's an interesting talent.

You gotta look competitive at this point Luke Fickle's career at Wisconsin, they were not.

I'm gonna say yes, but it's hard to see him wearing a Wisconsin pull over next season.

So crazy to me that this hasn't worked.

Yeah, I mean, he's a good coach.

He's been a good coach for a long time, and not every good coach is able to transform every situation he steps into.

Right, I am.

Confounded by the fact that this hasn't worked.

And I think what's probably most frustrating if you're a Wisconsin fan, each season has kind of felt the same.

They've had issues with quarterback luck and injuries right since he got there, and they're actively trying to make the offense better, but I don't know if it's any better.

It kind of feels like most of the Wisconsin teams that we've seen over the last few seasons, and that's just damn frustrating.

I don't know how else to put it.

So I don't know how he even if he makes it through.

You know, this wave of frustration that I'm sure is going to wash over Madison in light of a twenty seven to ten loss to Maryland.

Right, I don't like, there's no way this can be a longer term thing at this point.

I mean, the worst possible explanation is that he is a pretty good coach and Wisconsin is not a place built for these times that when they were in the Big Ten West and the way that they approached nil as a school, and the way the Big Ten is currently built in terms of the teams at the top and how they're spending that Wisconsin is the expectations of Wisconsin as a program aren't necessarily realistic if they're in line with where they were ten years ago.

Notre Dame fifty six perdue thirty.

I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time talking about this.

It was closed for like fourteen minutes.

There was another weather delay in this.

Are all these weather delays all of a sudden driving us all crazy?

Fifty six to thirty was your final.

Notre Dame ran for two fifty and five touchdowns on the ground.

It was never really in doubt.

But yes, there was a moment first half where it's like, hmm, this is closer than we expected.

There were many text messages I can tell you going back and forth with Mama H and I about Notre Dame's defense.

And I can tell you right now, if they don't find a way to fix this defense quick, and that probably involves getting rid of Chris Ash or reassigning him to some sort of administrative function, well, Luke Fickle might be available, Brent Price is available.

Like, if they don't come up with some way, some better way to use Chris Ash at this stage of the game.

This could well be a four loss team.

You mean like in catering or something.

What do you mean?

Whatever?

To use him?

Okay, whatever, Just don't let him call the defense because based on what we're seeing, even though they yes got better in the second half, this version of Notre Dame with him calling that defense and whatever they're trying to do, it's four lost team.

They're going to lose two more games if they keep playing the style of defense.

Okay, so.

Put that down right, it in stone, whatever, hold me to it.

But I'm telling you right now, they got to fix that, and they got to do it quick.

It wouldn't surprise me if he is not the defensive coordinator the next time we record.

Real like in two days.

Yeah, it would step in.

Just run ass Becus Freeman could step in, Mike Mickens could step in.

They can come up with some other way to run that defense and scheme that defense.

It's not to say that he can't have a hand in it.

But whatever they're doing right now, we're like a month into this thing.

Man, what if Ryan Brown is just a fun wild card tie and he's gonna be that way all season long.

I'm telling you it's been bad.

It's been bad.

They got I guess a little bit more pressure in this game, but there's still miscommunication issues.

They're still i think soft upfront, softer than we've seen the last couple of years.

There's a lot there.

I mean, this is an offense at scoring points, and so to waste that offense because the defense can't get it sacked together.

There's still a lot to play for if you're Notre Dame.

But they got to get it together quick and fair again.

If they don't make a pretty serious change here quickly, it's four lost team.

But listen, he is the defensive coordinator for a team on a current winning streak.

There's that.

Speaking of coaching strife, Oklahoma State lost at home to Tulsa on Friday night, nineteen to twelve.

Yeah, the first time that Tulsa has won in still Water since nineteen fifty one.

Not great, Dan rubinste this might be it for Gundy, right, Oh it is.

I think it's got one hundred percent.

Yeah, the question is is he there on Monday?

Yeah, I mean he's earned, you know, the benefit of like going out on a very respectful turn.

I just he'll be fine in terms of how this all ends.

But yeah, they're not gonna get rid of a midseason, there's no point.

And then last but not least.

Of course, there are games that we are not going through.

Many of them were outs.

But uh, the ACC is kind of interesting, man, got some interesting stuff going on the ACC.

That Duke n C State game was a ton of fun, lot of offense.

NCC couldn't overcome four turnovers, but a good game from CJ.

Bailey.

Not a good game for CJ.

Bailey.

He threw three interceptions.

He threw three interceptions, but also through for three hundred and sixty four yards.

So I'm trying to fill out a positive Dan I don't.

I don't think if somebody stopped him on the street tonight and said do you have a good game, be like, yeah, I don't think that.

Okay, fair enough, fair enough, continue through for a lot of yards.

Let's leave it there.

Sure h forty five to thirty four, though, Duke with a nice win, nice little second half rally.

Virginia Tech got off the schneide, finally got to win over Wafford.

Great.

There was this game though, between UCF and North Carolina.

Yeah, I didn't watch it yet.

But it seemed entertaining from this game.

Was an absolute mess for North Carolina.

Okay, it was so bad.

Two hundred and seventeen yards that's all they got against this team.

I don't know, man, that's a problem.

That's a real problem.

I mean, the problem bigger picture is that North Carolina is using this year to broadcast what they can be in terms of an attractive program to recruits and potential portal editions, and it's not a great broadcast in this moment, especially when like now you're gonna start having like the social media teams dunk on North Carolina if they're beating them, like UCF's did.

They had like the what the Knight holding up a w with the Knight's legs mimicking the Jordan Hudson Bill Belichick picture on the beach.

You're just like there's a lot of fodder where like if you're gonna ask like is this guy even there?

At this point, You're like, this doesn't seem like it's a fun experience for Bill Belichick in this moment.

Okay, I don't know.

We'll say there's time.

There is time before we move on to our next segment, which will be the reverbs.

Okay, you don't want to talk Platypus Cup.

I was Apple Cup.

I was going to ask you about the Platypus Cup and the Apple Cup because these are two name brand right win the platty name brand rivalries.

Oregon wins forty one to seven.

Washington had a little bit of trouble with Wazoo, but then pulled away late.

The Oregan start was pretty sluggish too.

What what are we feeling on the Oregon side now going into this big one against Penn State next week?

Did you see anything at all in this game that you think is going to be relevant?

On Tuesday when we.

Recorded the run defense for like a quarter and a half, wasn't great for Oregon.

It seemed like sort of a lethargic, sluggish forty one to seven win at times.

But then they opened it up and uh, We're able to get stops on the ground.

They completely limited Malik Murphy through the air.

He was at some point it was like three of fifteen or something.

I think Oregon State basically had one drive Oregon may have has.

Oregon allowed like their starting defense I think has allowed a touchdown this season, So I'm not terribly worried that there's anything super concerning about this Oregon team.

They're just gonna play what could be a very very good Penn State team and that's worrisome.

But no, I think outside of maybe the run defense, Oregon seems to be in a good spot.

You know, Decoryan Moore was there and playing well.

There was some question about his health.

Dante More looked for the most part pretty excellent, and defense is making place.

It's a good game for Oregon in kind of a sad situation where Oregon State is is a program right now.

And you mentioned Washington Washington State and the Apple Cup being close for.

A stretch, Yeah, three quarters, so it was close.

Washington is just there's a lot of quality speed to Washington like that a relief pitcher from nineteen eighty one would be interested in.

Are those Greenies are?

Yeah, there's like I just they're a fun offensive team, which a team coached by Jedfish generally seems to be.

I think they're gonna be really good and they have Do they have Ohio State next week?

Is that what's happening?

Are they coming up with Ohio?

Ohio State comes town next week.

That's gonna be fun and weird, hopefully for my entertainment eyes.

But yeah, Washington took care of business.

A lot of it was just like generating those chunk plays on the ground, and it was with zeb eck House is the Wazoo quarterback.

He's making plays for a stretch of that game.

He has to do arety admirable for them?

He has to do everything.

Yeah, he has to do everything.

But he scored three touchdowns, two through the air, one on the ground, also turned it over three times, had two picks in a fumble.

Demon Williams is my dude.

He's good.

He's not huge, No, no, he runs.

He puts his body on the line, which is admirable.

He's not a big guy.

He is not a big guy.

All right, right in salverbogmail dot com.

Let us know what we got right, what we got wrong.

Of course, if you are listening, if you are watching, if you can comment, please do so.

Let us know your thoughts on all the action.

Of course, there are many other games that we could get into.

I will not talk about my possible upset alert of the BYU Cougars because they annihilated East Carolina.

Yes, yes, and that was another one that I was wrong about again.

More to the point, if you want me to bet on your opponent, just let me know again that email address is Severble at gmail dot com.

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Yeah, all right, we did get a bunch of your voice messages at eight five five verbal three.

It is perhaps a slim down version because I had to cut them our normal reverb guy Sha has been out of town the last two weeks.

So where is he at?

Parts unknown?

Man?

He did a Japan trip relatively recently.

He did?

He did it?

Is he back to Asia?

I don't.

I don't you know.

Is he in the Yukon territory.

I believe he's in the greater forty eight States, but oh, okay, I don't, or the lower forty eight states, but I don't.

I don't know exactly where.

Man of like a specialized dungeon of some kind.

Okay, whatever he's into.

Yeah, I don't he's he's not doing the reverbs.

Okay, he'll be doing him next week.

Provided you and I could find a place to record and play the reverbs, we'll be fine.

But uh, I cut this version.

Okay, I heard all the ones that came in.

I could not go as late waiting for reverbs because I had to do all this and study for the show.

But here's what we got for a week four.

Have a listen.

So this is Cody from Madison, Wisconsin.

This is a dirty mic from backline.

This is Cameron calling from Wisconsin.

Hey, it's a pectil pet and stillwater.

Hey, I'm just worrying if you could tell me how a buy out working for a friend.

That was the most pitiful ending to a game I've ever watched.

Auburn gave up a block in the back, then two fall start in three sacks in a row, and then to a safety to end the game.

These reps today have been so bad that Hugh Freeze actually can blame their loss on someone.

The reps from the Auburn Oklahoma game need to be left at the tarmac, fired, or at a minimum driven to Pearl Vision.

Not a sponsor could be.

This might be Sehr's Clemson team in a decade and QB one might be out for a while.

But I just want to say, Coach Frankins Shower, it's a great day, folks.

You baby.

I can't say a lot of good about what happens today.

But you got to understand that Bo just figured this coaching thing out.

In sixteen years, we'll be back on top.

It would appear that maybe Dabo Twinty is the Nick Sabit of Mike Gundies.

Is Kyle Whittingham the James Franklin of kirk Farncis.

I'm calling to report a bakery explosion in Salt Lake City, turnovers everywhere.

I just watched one of the worst quarters of Badger football and I wanted to say, Ty, I forgive you for locking up Wisconsin.

Just please lock up Minnesota in.

The X game.

Talk to your kids about foreign o Maryland.

They should make every.

Game from Maryland in September.

Dylan Riola might be cause playing as Patrick Mahomes, but after that Hill Mary is it safe to say that Royola has a little bit of Aaron Rodgers in him?

Does Dante Moore have a little bit of Darren Thomas at him?

And I have one question for you, do you believe in the mean Green?

I'm in a tunnel at Notre Dame Stadium because there's lightning.

Chris Ash is a problem.

Rid Alert wondering if Chris Ash could get fired during a three minute halftime.

Look, I'm not saying that Scott Frock is going to continue to win every game that he coaches for UCF.

All I'm saying is that you can't prove that you won't.

Right now, I'm watching Ties Indiana Hoos put.

A whooping on Illinois.

Watch out, Big ten coach Digg is about to smoke the competition.

Wind Bonding.

You cowards, Rank Vandy, You cowards.

Oh.

I like that.

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We did get a comment in there.

I don't know if you paid much attention to the Notre Dame game, but because of the weather delay, right, it was a long weather delay before they got the halftime, and so what they ended up doing was basically making that the halftime.

I saw that they just rolled over second to the third quarter.

That's right, they just rolled over the I did see that, yeah, which actually was cost to myself.

I was watching the game when they came back and there was like thirty nine seconds left in the second quarter.

I was like, they're not going to take a break right now after they just three hours or whatever.

I don't know how long the break was, but I was very happy to see that they went.

They just went second to third.

It's good for them.

We don't normally take questions on the Saturday night live stream, right because this was I think a different kind of week than we had seen in the previous three, I thought it would be the right time to do it.

So let's go to this one here from Joshua, who says, do you have a favorite in the Big twelve after this wild week?

Dan Rubinstein, a favorite in the Big Twelve after this wild week?

I'd have to look at all of the schedules together and like some sort of matrix formation.

I'm gonna say, I'm not gonna be a prisoner of the moment.

I'm gonna say Iowa State right now?

Yeah, I mean, I think Iowa State in Texas Tech for me, Yeah, I think that's my favorite, not favorites.

I think that's how I'm feeling right now.

I mean, okay, Texas Tech really showed me something today.

There's a reason that you and I both let off with Texas Tech beating Utah.

Utah is not an easy place to play, right and this is not, again a Texas Tech squad that is accustomed to being in defensive struggles for three and a half quarters.

Right.

So, whether that's because of the talent they brought in or the mentality that Joey maguire has put in place, you know, I'm not on the ground, I don't know, but that to me is again the most impressive singularly, the most impressive thing that we saw in week four.

And I'd be hard pressed to put anybody other than Texas Tech in that game right now, if you're asking me now after week four, you know, I was really really impressed by what I saw.

By the way, ASU coming up just on the topic of the Big twelve, after this Baylor win TCU at home at Utah, Texas Tech Houston, who might be a decent defense at Iowa State.

That's their media middle, Okay, So if they start out that media middle in an impressive way, I reserve the right to say, oh, as he was doing it for me.

I love this question from a different only answering josh questions.

Is that the big thing tonight?

I mean, this is just a good questions from Josh.

Yeah, It's a question that we talked a lot about when we previewed the Big ten.

Yeah, but the ACC in the preseason did not have this same tenor to it.

Okay, Joshua says who is the fourth best ACC team?

He says a clear top three, but it feels like a mess after that, So I guess his top three would probably be Miami Yeah, Florida State, James Yeah, Florida State, and Georgia Tech.

Sure, who would you put forth?

Uh?

Is Clemson fourth?

No?

Not right now?

Uh, they just lost to a different ACC team today?

Is Syracuse?

No?

I would?

I would right now?

I think the conversation is around Louisville almost three and oh it hasn't been a crazy impressive season, but the three and no, uh, Duke, I'm gonna need to see more consistency.

I don't know what the score of the Cal game is, but I'm gonna need to see more from Cal after last season.

We like JKS.

But who are they playing tonight at San Diego State?

I believe yep.

Uh yeah, I'm gonna say for fourth, I'll plant my flag right now and I'll say Louisville.

Okay, don't love it, but it's tough.

I still gotta.

Believe that Clemson can get their act together.

Why, I don't know what is their act exactly after the last fifteen games.

Okay, I mean it's it.

I would love to say Cal, but I think Cal is still a little too flawed, even though they're really fun at quarterback.

I just they don't have the skill talent to me.

I think my default answer would probably end up being Duke Duke over Louisville or smuu an interesting case as well.

But to the point here, yeah, it is a mess after that top three.

I think that's that's a given.

Josh Nick Sooner junior once could Josh with Oklahoma beating Auburn and Jackson Arnold, have they taken all the steps to get the monkey off their back from last year?

So the monkey on the back question for Oklahoma is an interesting one.

Yeah, so far, I think they've gotten the monkey off their back, improving that they can have a productive offense or at least a product to quarterback.

Because we didn't see that at all last year.

So that part is definitely better.

But I still have questions about the overall plan on offense.

How much can you put on one guy John Mattier.

Will they be able to run the ball as they get into some of the better teams on their schedule.

This is ultimately a very very limited sample size with Oklahoma, and I think the quote unquote monkey on the back is going to be against the better schools here.

This is a program that's used to winning.

So to go four and oh, to start five and oh, as they will be after next week, that's all well and good.

And Illinois almost say Illinois don't know why it's late Oklahoma was going to find a way into a bowl game.

I think that much is certain.

Oklahoma is better than I thought they were going to be.

I'm already willing to acknowledge that.

But the question of what is the monkey on the back is I think nuanced and kind of interesting in and of itself.

Yeah, I mean it's just a question of offensive pop.

You talk about the running game, we talk about the if you're talking about the monkey on their back from last season, it's down four or five of their best receivers last year, and so it's not only having guys healthy, but having a viable complete offense would probably go a long way.

They have Texas, South Carolina, Ole, Miss Tennessee, Pama, Missoo, and LSU.

They're gonna need to score thirty points in some of those games.

Yeah, and that is when I will feel confident that, like, oh, this is an evolved, really fascinating winning team.

Yeah.

I think that's right.

Final question here from Mason, how are we feeling about the Heisman Trophy?

Pretty good?

I think they should have it again this year, probably in New York the Downtown Athletic Club.

Ah.

How am I feeling about the Heisman Trophy?

We just haven't seen level of competition that extensively.

So I think we can eliminate from the top of the conversation a couple of guys that were there and Kate club Nick and Arch Manning.

Although he we'd have mentioned it, but he did perform really well against Sam Houston tonight.

Who's in that conversation right now, Well.

I mean John Mattier is definitely in that conversation.

I think coming into the week, Carson Beck was actually the prohibitive favorite favorite to win, but I just don't feel that strongly about Carson Beck.

I'd put Justice Haynes there.

Justice Haines with the way that he has played.

We didn't see Julian saying this week, but Julian Sayan has I think every possibility of being in that conversation.

I would also add a guy like get Dante Moore.

Dante More.

We need to see the competition this week.

I think he has extraordinary ability and his receivers tight ends look really good.

That should be a complete offense.

He should be able to put up big numbers and big games.

I can tell you who my dark horse is right now.

I just set up a moda Hardy by the way, Mott Hardy.

Mott Hardy is a great selection as well.

My dark horse is Tommy Castellanos from Florida State because.

He would have a narrative point of view.

Yeah, he would absolutely have an error.

Now.

I think he hurt his leg in the game today against Kent.

It looks like he's gonna be fine.

He'll be back in time for the Miami game.

I'm sure.

But right now he's at twenty five to one.

The acc to the previous point is a certifiable mess.

After that top three or four.

I mean, it's just a lot of teams that feel the same, and so Florida State if they're seventy five percent as good as they've looked so far, once they get into some of the meat of their schedule, Tommy Castellanos is going to have every opportunity to show out and the offense is going to run through him based on what we've seen so far.

So they're not that far away at this point with the state of the conference from being one of those teams that you know, again, we're talking about them as a top three team now, but it's not going to take much for them to stay there and get into that ACC title game a couple of weeks down the line.

If they're there, it's because of him.

And if they're there because of him, there's a pretty good chance that he's in this conversation.

At a minimum, his odds are going to go down.

They have to.

So that's the name that I'm looking at right now.

That I don't hate buying low, by the way, Okay, I don't hate buying low with Ty Simpson in this moment.

Yeah, I don't hate the idea of looking at favorable numbers for the Bulldoza Fernando Mendoza.

Yeah, there's a ton because you do have to look at opportunities against top flight teams that are going to be on like Network TV at night or on Big newon or whatever.

There's a lot of really fun names right now.

Mess to maker, is that how you pronounce it?

I don't think Drew Mestemaker is gonna win the Heisman from North Texas, but he's looked really good.

Good Heisman caliber.

Okay caliber, let's close this thing out some doodle words.

Okay.

We put a call out on social media every Saturday night we ask you for your dudes.

Who were your top performers from the week?

That was dan?

Who do we got for week four?

Obviously?

Eric McAllister.

When you catch two hundred and fifty four yards worth of passes, that's going to just do it for me.

Yeah.

There were a lot of like really interesting performances.

Cam Edwards at Yukon went for about two hundred yards.

I appreciate that.

Chan Moo at Virginia kind of a fun offensive like Bengal Branson threw for a bunch of yards against Virginia.

Okay, and Chandler Morris had a bunch for Virginia.

You know, I'm not going to fully dedicate a time to your guy, Mark Gronowski for Iowa, but he's improving.

You mean, the winningest quarterback in the history of college football, Markronowski?

Well, on multiple level.

Did you see this if you combine everything all levels of college football?

Okay, Mark Ronowski with their win over Rutgers on Friday night, thirty eight, twenty eighty at three rushing touchdowns.

If you consider all of the wins over the course of his career, he is fifty two.

His career record is fifty two and seven.

That is the most career wins of anyone to ever play college football.

Congratulations Mark Ronows, Congratulations to him.

I got Sutton Smith for Memphis, had a terrific game against the Arkansas defense.

Dylan Riley for Boise very quietly against in a sort of fun shootout against air Force, had a big night, four touchdowns, nine yards per carry.

Who else did I really like here?

Oh?

The receiver from Rutgers Ian Strong in a losing effort.

That was a fun back and forth on hold on, hold on, Okay, back on the board.

I'm trying to think of anybody's anybody you have.

Jeremiah Love had a good game because he had a not so great opponent.

Went probably one hundred and fifty yards, right, Jeremiah Love.

Jadarian Price, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And you mentioned not Hardy earlier.

Mott Hardy I think is Oh, he's ridiculous.

Is going to be a perennial dude?

But not Will Hammond, big Bill h big Bill h Man Yep.

Absolutely for Texas, tech stepped in performed admirably.

Yeah.

The big one for me is Eric Callister two hundred and fifty through the air.

But yes, right in again, sliverbogimail dot com.

If you've got any dudes that we missed that you think should feel slighted by us not mentioning them, here.

You go, Jeremy in the comments.

Jacob Rodriguez, linebacker for Texas, tacking eleven tackles, sack, force, fumble and a pick and a fumble.

Recude, he was everywhere.

Yes, a lot of great performances a week four.

Please do let us know who we missed.

I'm sure there are many that we missed.

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I would also remind people that the plan for next week is that you and I are going to try and do this show from Parts unknown in State College, Pennsylvania after the Penn State Oregon game.

Yes, so we've got a way into the stadium.

We're going to make sure that work.

It's yeah, we're primed and ready to go to talk about all things college football at this hour next week, but the setting's going to look a little bit different.

Will be in the same spot.

If there are any changes for whatever reason to the schedule, we'll make sure we'll let you know.

But at time of recording here, the plan is to go off without a hitch and do the normal thing on a Saturday night.

Truly my favorite part of the season.

Anytime I get to be at college football.

Yes, yes, on that note.

For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hilden Brandt, For everybody out there supporting the cause, watching, listening along at home.

Thank you as always for being here with us and being part of the community.

We'll catch you all on Tuesday.

In the meantime to day soft peace